You try to figure but you're way too dumb wrote:
"Could we please move away from the $700,000 question? I don't know what's worse, the gullibility of Ruby, or the fact that the rest of you can't figure out what she's talking about. Is this really happening?"
and then
just another freak wrote:
"the clueless retards (ruby, et. al.) on the gb never cease to amaze/disappoint me with their bountiful stupidity. and I always thought we dan fans were all a semi-intelligent bunch...I'm proven wrong with every day with some of the posts here. I bet Dolly, the cloned sheep is clued in enough to get the 700,000 deal..."
Well, talk about not having a clue! Just cause she didn't put a ;-) after the post! Look in the mirror assholes! And BTW, you dumb fucks missed the point she was making completely...
Ruby, as good an idea as the bond thing is and as loyal a following as the Dan have, they just are the counter culture pop icons that David Bowie is, ie the bonds probably would have lesser interest. Also, please stay warm and wonderful in spite of these morons.
Edd- okay, you got to me with your post about the Nightfly cover art. What is the microphone cord went through a hole in the table!
Totally OK with it, Paul C
Not the icons...
What if...
"...respect the seven second delay we use"
Edd: Chkd out your DB page last week, I'm w/YGK.
Rudy: As always, I enjoy your stoff.
Doorpeoplesleeping: Hertzliche Wilkommen! Much/varied chatter here.
clas: you prick. keep your euro angle to yourself, unless you plan on buying 50 copies to distribute this way.
Zeke: C'mon 'Fest!
amanda: one week till blast-off!
Re: DaveMatthews........ Checked him out locally 6 wks ago. Changed my view. Not a popular alternative to neo-hippy types. Good groove, IMHO. However, saw him in duo form with Tim Reynolds. 2-3/4 hour intimate show with fun audience(~4000)interaction.
Open comment: It is once again Hoosier Hysteria time. Indiana high school basketball is huge statewide(recall "Hoosiers" film), and this is the LAST year for single-class b-ball. No longer will a 1-A school be allowed to play against a 4/5-A school in the tourney. A very heated, spitting debate continues on the state legislature floor. The principals will win. Multi-class is coming. :-(
Time to update wx and do the news...
"In this everlasting twilight..."
earthbound: blast-off? whaddya mean? and re: dave matthews, the reason i brought it up is because i saw a show on the same tour you saw a week ago, and thought it was quite cool (though rather self-indulgent on the part of the artists at some points). after that i started listening to my friend's dmb cd... really began to dig the style. the show did get long though... i kinda nodded off about 2/3 of the way through.... oh well.
amanda
Last Call For Music Hall: THE STEELY DAMNED-- Tonite--- The Great American Music Hall--- San Fransisco--- 859 O' Farrel--- 8PM till at least 1AM--
good night now
lovebob
Thank God somebody posted about Maxine She was apparently lurking to see if anybody cared. Maybe she should try another guestbook, cuz ya know those damn dan fans, they wallow in self importance. They juuuust dooownt care
Yo, Whiney Stranger, don't click here. I don't want responsibility for ruining your day.
The rest of you should feel free to follow the link.
Edd
Hey there, fellow Dan Fans...
I recently bought a (bootleg?)copy of "Live in '94" Has anyone else heard it? i wasnt surprised "Fall of '92" didnt make it onto 11TOW after I'd heard it, but "Hey 19" sounds really good live , especially with DF's little vocal additions with the girls doing the "...Cuervo Gold..the fine Columbian.." thing at the coda. The little 'Royal Scam/Bad Sneakers/Aja' opening instrumental isnt bad, wodner why they boys didnt put something like that on AIA.. Overall, it isnt bad, but it isnt anything I havent heard before. Methinks I'll sell it. Any takers?
Chuckles
wassup with the new steely album
I have finally been released from the clinic, so before I read any of the nonsense bullshit that has been written the last couple of weeks, I just want to say that I love Steely Dan so much that if I had a chance to fuck Tyra Banks, Donald Fagen or Walter Becker, I would kill myself because I wouldn't be able to decide between Walter Becker or Donald Fagen.
By the way if anyone was wondering, I was in the clinic for hitting my girlfriend. Can you believe that bullshit?
RUBYBABY; And then I think "The Goodbye Look" has great lyrics. Listen to the line... "I know a fellow with a motorlaunch for hire, a skinny man with two-tone shoes". We all know what kind of guy that is. And Fagen just describes the man as a skinny man with two-tone shoes. And the line when the soldier is knocking on the door... "his stupid face, the glasses and the gun". We also know that kind of fellow, donīt we? I love the Becker/Fagen lyrics, I get pictures in my mind. And for the parts I donīt understand, I just put in my own fantasy there... I guess itīs why I love their music/lyrics so much.
Maxine; Sorry if you are confused here about that dog - glasses - thing. But I can give Ruby permission to tell you. On a private Email. Ah, what the hell, itīs no big deal anyway.
Spring is here, Hi from Stockholm
"I still recall when I first held your tiny hand in mine"
amanda: I'll be in Phoenix next Monday!!! Will try hard to hit Casa Grande(NM). Looking forward to the Big Hole, Wapatki, Canyon de Chelly, Organ Pipe Cactus(NM), painted desert, Sedona(!), and likely, Vegas.
Edd: nice dissection once again.
ALL: Springtime... Yesterday twilight, I had to pull off the road, stop the vehicle, and gaze skyward as thousands, if not tens of 1000s of migrating birds danced and sang from leafless tree to phoneline to leafless tree. The sunset was that eery pink/peach hue. Birds lined up on the wire in 1/4 mile stretches. Then, all at once, they'd take to the sky in a swarming, circling array. In the end, wave after wave descended upon a very tall double-sided billboard, congregating amidst the gridwork between the sides. I wondered how it would feel to fly in weaving formations without a mishap -- you know, there wasn't one mid-air collision. I suspect it's due to good communication.
"I heard it was you..."
Re: Dave Matthews Band, great band, the singing ruins it though - if dave would shut up and get a better singer, I would listen
fez
Fezzy:
Re: DMB: they should hire Walter for their vocalist! That would be cool. "What would you say..."
So hello once more.
Good to see that I am not alone in the Mike McDonald appreciation stakes.
I must confess that I am not particularly aware of the DMB. Are they any good?
Clas: if nose candy has you bemused, try 'upward bogey snow' or the distinctly British 'Charlie'...
Joni Mitchell, she's okay. I like Court 'n Spark very much, but some other albums are a bit too mellow for me.
We used to have a show over here called 'The Old Grey whistle Test'. they had Steely Dan footage, Reelin' in the Years as it happens. The only footage I have seen ever.
Someone noted earlie, the union of jazz and good ole' rock 'n roll in the Dan's repertoire. Funny that, 'cos the absolute best songs they did at Wembley, last September, were Black Cow and My Old School. The former was the thumping bass and punch, you know the daahh duh duh; the latter was the scorching brass and bomb dropping snare.
laters pretzel dmb discussers
CLAS: Hey, strapping Nordic bear - let's frolic in the springtime! I know what you mean about The Goodbye Look. It reminds me of CasaBlanca. Did you ever see that one? I gotta let my imagination soar,too. WB&DF's lyrics are the best for that!! I've been thinking that while the lyrics are great, the way Donald Fagen sings it makes the words even better. He transcends any language.
About the cheering up Maxine thing: I think no one could describe what happened to you & Pompe as well as you can! But I know what wrestling a big dog who wants to lick a tiny dog to death is like; but not in the mud while I'm trying to keep my glasses on and gazed @ by a group of onlookers and horrified tiny-dog owners. I'll bet Pompe just thought you were playing...
Since you are the generous soul I've come to know, could you pick me up a copy of the new Steely Dan booklet Brian Sweet is doing? How much $ should I send (do you take checks?) I'm still learning FireInTheHole. I'll tape it for you when I can play it like I feel it.
PPpaulCC: Thank you for your thoughts - I hate to wink on line. I see your point about SD not being the counter-culture pop icon that is Bowie. Even considering that, is there any room for them in this limited market? I just wouldn't want DF&WB to miss out on a good thing. I love them too much. Has anyone ever told you you've got really good cybervision? PDGCV
moray eel: What you said about Everything You Did got me thinking: I wonder if my S.O. would be interested in playing the EverythingYouDid game? (I wanna be the rollerskater first)
rubybaby
I wouldn't screw Tyra Banks either. She has the world largest forehead. Regarding sex with Donald or Walter, I'd lean towards Walter. I bet he talks dirty when he's plowing the cornfield.
sfk: i think dmb is really good, but obviously, not everybody does. i'd recommend finding either a friend with one of the cds or a blockbuster music-esque store (where you can hear before you buy) and giving 'em a listen. i don't own any yet, but i had my friend's copy of 'crash' on loan for nearly a week.
amanda
Now that I've stripped myself of the shackles of cyberhell, lemme tell ya.....
I had "Show Biz Kids" cranked up yesterday while painting the bathroom. I programmed the CD player to keep repeating "Show Biz Kids", a cheap but effective imitation of Katz's 60-foot loop in the studio (if you beleive that one too), and god damn, the Donald delivers.
"... they don't give a fuck about anybody else, you know they go to..."
maj.
Ruby: You can be my rollerskater anytime! Oh yeah...skate a little lower now!
Regarding Michael McDoobie---I love his harmony on Rose Darling. During the chorus Donald Sings, "Rose Darlin..." and Mike chimes in perfectly "...Rose Darlin...'in'...'in'...'in'..my friend". His voice is the perfect addition to Donald's singing. They make a great combination.
Spanish kissin' see it glisten...
m.e.
RUBY-HONEY; I asked in the bookstore for that Sweet-book. It isīnt out yet. But whenever it comes, Iīll send it to you. No checks, no money, you have a birthday, donīt you? And when you learned that song, promise to tape it and send it to me! Anyway, have you heard about a Swedish group called The Morons? If you donīt have, you will. The 20th March, this year. Hold out.
Clas
SanFransiscoKnight; Now I know what you mean. Thanks. And about McDonald, I think he has done some pretty stuff on his own too; Minute by Minute, What a Fool Believes, Takinī it to the street... and on.
Iīm glad to hear that you like Court and Spark, and I agree with you, some of her other records are a little to soft for my taste. But listen to the record with the Mingus stuff, with Jaco Pastorius on bass and his arranging of the horns, THAT one is not mellow.
With a sleepin roll, Clas
Sorry, doubleposting. But while Iīm on;
EDD COTE; Iīm not much for dissect music, but I love what you wrote about that Japan - China-line. I have never thought of it that way. Good work.
clas
RUBYBABY and others; I just talked with OmniBus Press in London (funny language they have in England, does not sound like the real english you talk in USA). Brian Sweets book is out in march. 1998. So, Ruby, you have to wait another year. But whatīs another year? In our age itīs like a month or two.
Last post for today, promise.
Clas
What, no posts today?
Strehhhnge...
YGK: Pissboy has posted enough for everyone else. Friggen abba lovin', can't grow a real beard, commie foreigner.
Edd--Wow! I'll never use a paper plate again!
Earthbound--didja get my e-mail? I got some weird error message, but I think it went through the 3rd try. Have fun!
BC
Hey, Q, you out there? Call me.
Rooobeee: yep, gimme all you got! Right now. And where's your packet? On its way. If not fallen through the holes in the mystical web between here and there. Yes, I'm still alive. Sometimes. More later. Kisses!
Re lyrycs: I also love that line "try to design a t-shirt from your mind" ... Whatelse: "who are these children who scheme and run wild" ... that's one of my favourite songs as well.
Re DMB
So what's not to like?
Dave's vocal phrasings are interesting and different. He utilizes lots of fairly intricate chord progressions and includes some intriguing twists and turns in his compositions with regard to melody. The lyrics are quirky and arcane, yet intelligent (sound familiar?). Dave's percussive style of guitar playing is quite appealing. the musicianship is sharp and exacting (how about Boyd Tinsley's electric violin driven nod to Hendrix on "Jimi Thing"), and Carter Beauford's jazz influenced drumming is quite outstanding... These guys bring a little something extra to the pop music table IMHO.
Favorite DMB track: "You Pay For What You Get"... nicely done indeed.
Me thinks if you're one of them there Dead/Dan fans (I include myself in this category)), then DMB can be quite an appealing combination of these two disperate yet similarly influenced musical agenda's.
Joe
..................annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, the number one reason the Dave Mathews Band isn't just totally cooooooool,
"It's just not Steely Dan, now, isit?"
DMB is featured in this month's "Mix" magazine. If you dig hardware like I do, you may find it interesting.
Edd
DMB is hot. Go see 'em live or shut the FUCK UP. Right Joe?
I was wondering. How many of the regulars on this board are using Netscape? How many IE? If you could end your next post with an answer to this question I'd really appreciate it.....
NETSCAPE
Peace, StAl
DMB sucks moose cock. So does Pissboy.
Netscape.
thanks for the enlightened comment, r.o.c.k. i'm sure everyone appreciated it almost as much as i did.
well, i'm glad that at least my question is getting some answers....
amanda
netscape!!!!
on a car trip from San Diego to San Francisco we listened to Can't Buy a Thrill for 10.5 hours...
netscape
Netscape by Day, IE night by night....
Netscape by Day, IE night by night....
Oops, dammit!
Netscape...
netscape
StAl, you have once again crystalized my thoughts exactly!
Netscape.
saw DMB live and still can't figure out what all the fuss is about. they can't play and can't sing.
pearl - "you are a diamond in a sea of coal" with your last comment.
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNETSCAPE.
YGK
I had a coooooooooooool dan moment last night - took my daughter to the er 'cause she had something stuck in her eye(not cool) but on the way home we stopped at the new coffee&ice cream place(where the stuff beats the heck out of Ben&Jerry's), having a good mom/daughter time - they started playing selections from Aja! When the instrumental part of Peg began, they cranked it up!! So I went wild and bought the expensive coffee.
MinorWorld: On your next visit to Fresburg I reccommend you make a pit-stop @ Udderly Terifik. But beware: you may not want to leave...
later
ruby
netscape
"Ruby Baby when will you be miiiiiiiiiine?"
good to see your greatfortune - AJA, if you don't already know it, is my fav.
how've you been?
iz evryt'ing cool?
YGK
NETSCAPE
Clas: I have to echo you impressions on the imagery in The Nightfly. In the title track while the imagery is crystal clear and stirs the imagination, it's interesting how the radio host drifts off into his own thoughts in this smoky late-night world of jazz, cigarettes, alcohol, insomniacs, incoherent callers, and loneliness. We're unsure whether his inner-most thoughts are included in the on-air dialogue for example as the "little blue jar" of "Patton's kiss and tell" stirs rememberances of a lost love... at that late hour radio hosts generally have more freedom to do that, and the listeners probably expected it.
DMB Rocks......nough said
RUBYBABY....Like to try the place but it might be one expensive cup o coffee.
DCB
Mosaic (Just Kidding)
NETSCAPE
Thursday March 6 8:20 AM EST
Warner Bros. Records Lays Off 65 Staffers
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Warner Bros. Records, which boasts the top-selling album in the country this week, has laid off about 65 employees in a long-awaited cost-cutting move.
Nearly 50 of the affected employees worked at the venerable label's Burbank headquarters where the head count was about 300. About 100 employees are scattered across the country. Sources said staffers in marketing, publicity and promotion were the hardest hit.
The cuts were announced at a staff meeting late Tuesday and will take effect Thursday. On Wednesday, latest SoundScan data revealed that the label's soundtrack to the upcoming Howard Stern movie "Private Parts" debuted at the top of the album charts. However the label has had a relatively low profile on the pop charts for much of the past year.
"Our industry is in the midst of a difficult and challenging period of adjustment," Warner Bros. label chairman Russ Thyret said in a memo circulated Wednesday to the remaining employees.
"Over the course of our history, Warner Bros. Records has been a successful, artist-oriented and competitive organization. I have concluded that we must streamline our operations including the very difficult decision to downsize our work force."
Ruby: thank you, next time I leave my frying pan and head for the fire I'll lay down my Jackson and see...
O Sainted One: The Netscape Gold, The Fine Columbian, make, um, (glances at watch) this afternoon a wonderful thing...
mWorld
...just what is the "difficult and challenging period of adjustment" Thyret refers to?
Edd
Edd:...wearing briefs rather than boxers?
mW
netscape. in japanese. does that count?
peace,
rabbit
Edd, I think Thyret was referring to the generally bad year the music industry had last year. Total sales were off something like 10%.
er, Netscape
Just wonderin'.... where does the fine cool sound of Steely Dan fit in with the embarrassing ignorance of xenophobia, as occasionally endured on this excellent site. Sometimes it's just not enough to ignore it. That said, dumb answers first please.
Richard&kangaroos
PS Edd C: Thanks! from now on Bodhisattva will be 'the washing-up song'. Just keep 'em coming.
Ed sed: "..just what is the "difficult and challenging period of adjustment" Thyret refers to?"
Another year without a new Steely Dan studio album, of course.
P.S. King Dick: I'm not ignorant of xenophopia. I know it quite well and practice it as much as I can. You friggin' foreigner. Thinking you can buy our government with campaign contributions to the Clinton Crime Family. What happened? Did Big Al Gore shake you down, too? He threaten to break your kneecaps or something?
Edd Cote: Your breakdown of "Bodhi" was the best one yet. Do you take requests? Perhaps something a bit more challenging...like Aja or Your Gold Teeth II.
"NUTS"-cape
m.e.
Ruby
Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.
Ruby
Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.
Ruby
Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.
Ruby
Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.
Hey, does anyone know where I could get Steely Dan posters? Would anyone like to try a hand at an exegesis of "Dr. Wu"?
Marc
Sorry Guys - New and Internet Illiterate
Pearl: I have to take exception to the statement you made about DMB. You see, I understand you may not like the band, but to suggest that band cannot play is WRONG in the true sense of the word.
R.O.C.K. in the USA: I am a big fan of John Mellencamp. However, I can't help but notice that one of his most contrived songs EVER just happens to be your handle. Sort of like your posts......Moose cocks for crissakes!
Kent: You need to come to the Great Pacific Northwest. Colombian sucks.....
Thanks everyone for your response to my question. It helps...
Peace, StAl
I have often entertained the thought of designing and printing a t-shirt something along the order of 'Property of Barrytown High' to give as a gift to my Dan literate friends. But I always thought I should include a mascot name that would be appropriate to the imagery of the song. My first thought was 'Cutters' like the locals in that movie about bike racing at the University of Indiana. But now that I have discovered all of you out there I was hoping to get some other ideas. I remember the first time I knew Michael McDonald was in Steely Dan was at the June of '74 concert at the Paramount in Seattle. I think Kiki Dee opened for them that night. Pretty weird, huh? Anyway...Michael sang a couple songs, I think Dirty Work was one, and I remember being disappointed that some second string nobody was ruining my songs. Ignorance can be pretty embarrassing. After I heard Michael on subsequent albums I realized I had been pretty lucky to have heard Mr. Mac 'live' with our guys. I also came to like almost anything Michael ever did.
I enjoyed the story of Steely Dan living on through the daughter. I know that if I had kids they would have also succumbed to the power of the Dan even if I had to throw them kicking and screaming into the light.
I have often entertained the thought of designing and printing a t-shirt something along the order of 'Property of Barrytown High' to give as a gift to my Dan literate friends. But I always thought I should include a mascot name that would be appropriate to the imagery of the song. My first thought was 'Cutters' like the locals in that movie about bike racing at the University of Indiana. But now that I have discovered all of you out there I was hoping to get some other ideas. I remember the first time I knew Michael McDonald was in Steely Dan was at the June of '74 concert at the Paramount in Seattle. I think Kiki Dee opened for them that night. Pretty weird, huh? Anyway...Michael sang a couple songs, I think Dirty Work was one, and I remember being disappointed that some second string nobody was ruining my songs. Ignorance can be pretty embarrassing. After I heard Michael on subsequent albums I realized I had been pretty lucky to have heard Mr. Mac 'live' with our guys. I also came to like almost anything Michael ever did.
I enjoyed the story of Steely Dan living on through the daughter. I know that if I had kids they would have also succumbed to the power of the Dan even if I had to throw them kicking and screaming into the light.
StAl: I use Escape.
Dr. Mu: I have always wondered what a "little blue jar" is. Do you know? But I think I know what that Patton is, wasīnt that some sort of greasy stuff you had in your hair back in the 50īs? (I know who mr. Patton is, the great general, but itīs not him, is it?)
When we are talking Parents-Childs I must tell you about my son. Heīs 21 now, and he has listened to Steely all his life. Or letīs say he HAD to listen to them. Because daddy did. But he never liked to pick up the guitar or playing piano. Maybe because daddy did and he thought my playing sucked? Well, at the time he became 16 - 17 he suddenly bought an electric guitar. And one night I stood outside his closed door to his room and heard him play along with "Kid Charlemange", and he played Carltons stuff note by note and bend by bend. And I was proud and very impressed. And confused, when the hell did he learn to play?
clas
Ruby - I love your new Mom and Baby story! I finally got to see my new niece for the first time last month. She loves to scream and laugh, especially when she's with her Grandpa! In fact I have taken to calling her my little Laughing Angel. Her little smile can really make your day!!
Netscape
Later, Beautiful Survivor
St. Al: Everything looks the same whether it be netscape or IE
Fez
Al - you might want to consider extending the width of your background image (rightback.jpg) to 1601 or so. As it stands, if you run your browser "full screen" at 1024 X 768 the image repeats on the right side of the screen.
The wider image will take up more space, but if you convert it to a .GIF file, you'll probably end up using less.
Netscape, MIE, home-rolled, depending on where I'm sitting.
Edd
Steve dude, great idea! Sign me up!
A mascot? How about "the Pretzel Guy" on the cover of PL?
and if you're going to make apparrel, why not underwear? Sure, Sure, y'know, like boxers that say "I don't need no Steely Dan" or a silk screen of the cover of "exstacy"? Shite, man, you can't make this shti up!
and now, some lyrics "He's the man, understand in that Steely Dan Movie;
where most things are illicit, but everything's groovy.
Do what you can, go see that Steely Dan movie,
Do zop do wah, makin' fair sell, buhzabuhdoobie.
YGK
Clas: Some cosmetic creams (ex. Noxema) etc. used to come in little blue jars with flat bottoms - glass initially, then plastic by the 70s.
I can feel it, a rhythm and blues and jazz revival upswelling this year. Rock/schlock: rock is on country stations now. Alternative to alternative; U2 playing dance music? Rap's fading; metal is dead (there is a God!) Something like a combination of Urban music, soul, and bop?...maybe like this song by Erykah (sp?) Badu I heard surfing through the radio yesterday?...but then, I could be dreaming
minahW: I could tell that was you. "...it was you, YOU..." in the stairwell of the office building talking to BOB. I was a few landings above you, with my own fine Co-lum-bi-an. Make tonight a wonderful night. Just don't stand stoned. OK?
Say it again.....
I'll be hoisting a drink to you at exactly 6pm eastern while I'm at Fat Jacks on Route 73 in Berlin NJ.
Suggestion to D+W: release a video of Art Crimes tour and call it, "re: the video". Or maybe that would make a good name for the new recording. Just a thought.
maj.
Thanks for all the input about the kids & the Dan (BabylonSister, Beautiful Survivor, CLAS, & Steve) Exposing the kids to SteelyDan has been fun! Even when they said they hated it, I knew otherwise. Even today I caught my oldest son laying on the sofa, listening to the Nightfly - all of it. I think he's getting tired of the angry/depressing crap he hears with his friends. BTW Beautiful Survivor, my daughter is 14! We still need mom/daughter fun times,probably more than ever - except that SHE does most of the talking now, I'm here to listen.
CLAS: Isn't it great to wonder when he learned something GOOD for a change? My oldest is 16. He's like a cross between Huck Finn and James Dean. helpme
DeeConBluz: I can't think of anything better right now than to see you in there! awsome idea...!
Hi,YGK! *things* are good. Isn't it true, though, that when you finally let something go, it sticks to you like glue? Is there a SteelyDan song covering that?
later,rubybaby
AMANDA: If you want another opinion about DMB(which you probably don't...certainly not one from lil ole me) I have a great many friends that worship the quicksand they walk on. (I'm 22 and from a town in east texas called Tyler that you've probably never heard of, and if you have I'm sure you wish you had'nt.) I don't really think I have much of an opinion about them one way or another. But most of the people I know that have sung their praises and forced me to listen to them over and over are people whose tastes in music I don't respect too much. I'm probably about to be on thin ice with some out there who will read this, but most of these people are TOTAL deadheads(not that there's anything wrong with that, so don't anybody yell at me for that comment. I just personally can't stand the Greatful Dead.) I do think that there are some very...touching(for lack of a better word, maybe) musical phrases in their songs. The kind of sounds that make you stop in the middle of a crowded room and just feel your heartbeat. And maybe I just don't want to like them because I don't want to have anything in common with some of the hick wannabe hippies I share a community with. And I must agree with YGK...they're just not Steely Dan, now are they? For those of you that have retold stories about Steely Dan experiences with your kids, I have one of my own...from the flip side...and it might just make you smile. I'm one those children who was subjected to Steely Dan night and day from the time I was conceived.(As a matter of fact, I was most likely conceived DURING a Steely Dan track.) I never thought much about them as a child..All I knew was that when I heard Steely Dan, I felt at home and I felt the wonderfully omniscient presence of Daddy.(Daddy was and is still a muscian, but his other job -to his neverending dismay-was engineering.I guess we had to eat.) When I was 20, I got tickets to see Steely Dan in Dallas. By this time I was a full fledged fan. My father and I went to see the show, sat in the mud (it had rained heavily all that day, and we had general addmission seats on the grass) got drunk and fell in love with our favorite passion all over again...together. This happened about 2 weeks after my parents divorce was final. I'm an only child and the divorce was very hard for me, as I have no other family besides my parents. So it was a pretty sappy moment, but none the less will be etched in my mind forever. I'm sorry if I bored anybody with my little sob story. But it just goes to show how important and close to my heart SD's music is. something I think we all can appreciate and understand.
Good to have a place to come home to.
You guys are all pretty great, and even if you're not, you at the very least make me smile every time I visit.
Another Amanda
Jon- am here-watching quietly as the page limps ever more slowly longing for a cue(like an album,or better yet a tour!). Ed is The Major Dude relative to effort and results in analyzing the tunes structurally. Pete is still "the Swami" and I just an interloping FAN/collector. Glad to here claus maybe has some semblance of a life after all(ref "touching" son story).Hello to JZ,PG,&TF of CO. PS There is a new 180gram vinyl pressing of AJA available that has great overall sound(recvd promo copy 2/97) includung a few elements superior to the MoFi pressing(but definately not everywhere ie Aja cut itself). Also DCC says they are "working on" the DAN collection from MCA for 1/2 spd remastered reissues- theyve done awfully good work on many other great titles(ie the CCR collection,Court & Spark,etc.). Q
AMANDA: Thank you. Music is truly a wonderful thing.
Now for the real reason why I was inquiring about the browsers everyone uses. I am curious what people think of the background we are using? On both my computers everything looks great at 640x480 & 800x600 when viewed through Netscape. With IE it is a totally different story. The text flows over the left side. Something I don't like. Is it just my machine? Is this annoying anyone else? As to Edd's comment, well, the length is a conscious decision. You see, If I were to extend the overall image to 1024x760 or more, everyone (most of us) would have to constantly scroll around the page just to read the text (I've tried it). I don't think placing the text in a predetermined table is the answer either.
Anyway, enough of the technical crap.
Peace, StAl
Steve: Barrytown Steelers, Barrytown Wolverines , Barrytown Nightflys ? The pretzel guy would be a good mascot; I'd personally like to see him bareback on an armadillo.
amanda: i know what you mean, and i understand where you're coming from. there are definitely a lot of dmb fans that like 'em for whatever invalid reason, but those moments in their music (so eloquently described) are what i love. certain songs make me feel that way all the way through... and the band is tight. i like that they use unconventional (in terms of recent music) instruments, and the rich feeling of their records. as for the dead, i never really liked 'em either.
okay, i guess that's all for now....
amanda
Amanda: I just had to drop you a little note and thank you for agreeing with me about the Dead. Usually, if I say anything about the Dead that isn't totally positive, people throw things at me. I agree that DMB is a very tight band, and any band that's tight is good to listen to. I think that's why people are so attracted to marching bands. Just out of curiosity, is there anyone else here who's a fan of Rickie Lee Jones. While my father was brainwashing me with Dan, my mother simultaneously tried to countersact his action by doind the same thing with her music. and I HATED it as a child, but I love it now. Amanda, what do you like to read? or anyone, for that matter...I'm curious.
Maybe he's a fairy...
Amanda, (This Amanda thing might get a little confusing)
Another Amanda: After a scary time on the g/book, your post has finally convinced it's safe to come back. Thanks... I love reading Paul Auster. His novel Moon Palace has a character called Kitty Wu, which obviously stirs up things SD. StAl: NETSCAPE
Just a quick thought on the Dead. Not really a fan, but the tribute album Deadicated is well worth a spin. Some great interpretations like Hornsby's "Jack Straw" Los Lobos' "Bertha" Elvis Costello's "Ship Of Fools" and Suzanne Vega doing "Cassidy". On the whole the Dead don't really float my boat the way it seems to get some people going.
Anybody ever heard of a German (I think) writer named Patrick or Peter suskind. For some reason his name escapes me just now. Anyway he wrote a book called Perfume. Not many people that I asked have ever heard of this book, but then, we are an obscure lot, now aren't we? It's fabulously black, humorous and amazingly riveting piece and I suggest it to everyone who likes to read weird stuff. It's not hard to find. Anybody out there a fan of Mr. Salinger. I love him almost as much as I love The Almighty...and I don't think I need to specify whoTHAT is...
Bored on a beautiful saturday afternoon in Texas...
The weekend at the college didn't turn out like I planned...
Amanda Numero Dos
Hey guys... Cool site... I never realized that there were so many Dan fans online... cool! ;)
I'm sitting in the middle of the Washington State ferry terminal at one of those Internet Kiosk's. Talk about useless technology. Actually this is a test to see if this page is working.
Technology is bitchen
I really enjoy coming here and reading all of your comments although I must admit they do make me feel somewhat inferior. I have never taken the music I love and broken it down. (Not to say that this is wrong in any way, just not for me). For me music is a total experience - it washes over me. It evokes emotions, memories, sentiments. It's almost as though if I were to dissect it to all it's various components it would break the spell.....that somewhere in the journey of searching for the reasons I like a piece of music I might de-personalize, de-mystify it in some way. I love Steely Dan music. (Yes, I think it's neat!) I don't know why - it just makes me FEEL.
I realize that this may be too simplistic for many of you, but that's my take.
another amanda: i love j.d. salinger. : ) also, i really like the rlj album flying cowboys (produced, of course, by our very own wb) though i've not heard any others. my favorite track on that one is 'satellites' for whatever reason... it just makes me want to dance in the dark.
just amanda
being a real dan fan I'm looking forward to a new al album and concert in the milwaukee area in 1997 all of our positive energy are with you Don and Walt.
being a real dan fan I'm looking forward to a new al album and concert in the milwaukee area in 1997 all of our positive energy are with you Don and Walt.
Amanda: My 4 year old daughter Amanda is a big Dan Fan also. Her big number is "shake it" (Babylon Sis). Recently, I had a chance to listen to Rickie Lee Jones' "Pirates" for the first time in a while. I think it was her 2nd release, and it's no sophomore slump. Great songs and melodies: it's got some Dan leanings for sure. Song structures and the sound also remind me a little of Bruce Springsteen's The Wild, Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle when David Sancious was at the keys. "Pirates" features an all-star Dan-ish cast with Mr Fagen on synth - title track and Steve Gadd, Chuck Rainey, dean parks, Steve Lukather, Randy Brecker, David Sanborn, and Tom Scott
Hi all! For you Chick Corea fans, he is playing the TLA in Philly, Sat. 3/29, 2 shows, 7:00 and 9:30. I will be attending the 9:30 set.
Being childless, I don't have any Steely mother/daughter stories, but I do have a Steely dog story. I have been babysitting my mother's poodle 'Katy' (I named her) this week, and she really freaked when I put her in my car to bring her to my house (I live approx. 45 min. from my folks). She was jumping all over the place, in my face; I almost wiped out some trees, mailboxes, et al.. I didn't know how to calm her down, so I popped in Countdown to Ectasty and sang every song to her. It was amazing, she just sat right down and was quiet. I think she especially dug Razor Boy, YGT, and Pearl of the Quarter! And I had a blast singing them, although people in passing cars were looking at me kind of strange.:)
Amanda II--Welcome!
St Al--if you're still counting, Netscape.
BC
Amandas: How are we to tell you apart? Amanda I and Amanda II? Read any Harlan Ellison? He's a bit twisted and usually angry about something.
Anybody know why the vibes(?) are missing from the intro to Rikki on Citizen? Any rumours/info on whether any progress is being made on the new album?
Anybody listen to Keb Mo' "Just Like You"?
St. Al. What happened to the coil binder graphics? Do I just have deflicted eyes? Netscape.
well, you can tell me (the first amanda) because i always post with my name and email address up top. everything else would be the other amanda. (also notice my lack of capital letters)
yes, i think i've heard that keb mo' song... wasn't it on the soundtrack to one fine day?
amanda
"I'm gonna take her down to Mexico!"
N E T S C A P E
da: loved your story. Phoenix tomorrow. Rikki Lee has been in my LP collection since 1978. Some very emotional music there. "GAHV" is a standout, IMHO.
lovebob: how was that SFO show?
StAl: Describe an Internet kiosk to you... Sounds like a pretty cool thing for passing the time on a ferry. It would be really cool if we had ferries here like they do in Europe. You know, grab a pint o' bitter and head for the NetscapeNavigator(Not that American ferries are "dry"). Some day.
"douuuuble helix in the sky tonight"
Re:Steely Dan addiction:
My name is Roy.....and I'm a dan addict. Since the street supply of dan has dried up in recent decades, I've tried a number of treatments. My research into the subject may be of help to some of you. The mainstream medical establishment will only prescribe the standard am/fm radio treatment. I found the dan percentage to be far too low to affect the tolerance I'd built up. Besides, am/fm is known to contain harmful toxins such as metal and bubble gum. I tried complete abstinence but developed psychological problems and ended up at the Sanford-Townsend Clinic being treated for danorexia. Encouraging long term results have been observed with a family of methadone-like substances known as jazz. Halfway programs have had success administering coltraine, brubeck, davis and parker (and even some old folk remedies like armstrong and ellington). The problem with these is that they aren't comercially available and a prolonged jazz regimen can lesd to funk deficiency (pre-berry anemia) which could require the patient to have direct hendrix injections. Synthetic dans have been developed that offer some relief. Some of the safer, more tested, laboratory dans are santana, sting, and mcdoobie ( a derivative which is actually part dan). Avoid foreign made synthetics such as littleriver, u2, and menatwork. You just don't know what's in them and these imports can be highly unstable. Remember that bad abba that took so many lives during the 70s? Some of the designer dans are laced with estrogen, e.g.: fleetwoodmac, rickylee, and eurithmic. These create a pleasant euphoria but can lead to personality disorders such as periodic bitterness and even a permanent condition known as Laura-Nyrosis. It appears that the current state of the art treatment for dan addiction is the recycling of existing batches of pure dan from the 70s thru early 90s. We'll have to make do with this until medical science or the B & F Foundation come up with a new cure.
PS NETSCAPE 3.0
I can't believe I just spent the last few minutes reading about the dead and DMB on the steely dan guestbook....Is this still the "Steely Dan" guestbook? I hope so but it sure doesn't look that way....
"The monday morning guestbook didn't turn out like I planned
The things that pass for music I can't understand"
Ahoy there, Dan folk!
Been off the site for a short while due to negative feeling, caused by my employers...
I did not wish to pass my neggy-vibes onto you guys.
Hey, the vibe intro to RDLTN is missing from the 'Reelin in the years (or Very Best Of)' album brought out in 1986. Wierd huh?
Rikki Lee Jones is quite cool. I think that Sheryl Crow has certainly picked up on her style also. For me, the best is Steve Gadd's percussive rule over 'Chuck E's in Love'. Feels lose and yet is tight at the same time. Kicks man!
Does Rikki Lee Jones still sing like a slut? I have not heard much else from her recently, although I know she's been doin' stuff. She always made me feel quite horny, ahem!
I must get 11 Tracks of Whack! I cannot find it over here at all, Tower, HMV and Virgin just don't have..
Clas: Did you not think that Manchester United played fucking brilliantly to destroy Porto 4-0????...
Laters pretzel soccer heads!
Once again, Bard University has been overlooked in the selection of the 64 team field for the NCAA hoops championship. This has escalated from mere travesty to full scale outrage. A letter writing campaign is in order.
Let your March Madness run with mine.
As a Dan fan, I just wanna thanks man, been a great trip.
Just wondering....
Last night I had VH1 on as background while reading the Daily Grind and after awhile a retrospective on The Carpenters came on. And I wonder, and wonder, and wonder.
NO. IT CAN'T BE. THE TATTOO OF THE MUSIC BIZ WRITING SONGS WITH "THE IMMORTAL" ONE? CAN'T BE.
"...just like me, they long to be, close to you. Wah-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh. Close to you..." maj.
I think I was about 6 and my mom was watching the Mike Douglas Show and Paul Williams was one of the guests. He sang some song he wrote about apples. He was hot then, boy!
Major, I've been painting my house a room @ a time. I've been thinking I would try the Show Biz Kids thing you were talking about. Tell me, did it affect the overall look? So far, the Nightfly paints best for me.
R.B.
maj,
Nahhhhhhh, it CAN'T BE... You must be sufferin' from a bad case
of Laura-Nyrosis! Say, didn't Karen Carpenter struggle with that
infamous eating disorder, danorexia???
Danorexia - Derivation: The combinatorial synthesis of dislexia and
anorexia. Definition: The act of heaving ones stomach contents
BEFORE the consumption of a large meal.
Come to think of it, if Karen Carpenter had in fact been a danorexic,
she'd still be alive today... But you would probably NOT be able to get
"Close To Her"...
Re: vibes(?) on Rikki, actually marimba, that is, wooden bars (usually rosewood) rather that metal, and negative (read: No) motor-action/flywheels/hats/hooters/sustain pedal on the marimba...(I seem to recall an interview with D&W where they disclose the skinny on that *particular* instrument...it may have even been an African cousin to the marimba...)
B.Suegirl: Is that the Bud Powell Tribute Show (w/Mcbride, Haynes, Redman, et al) you speak of? Will see Mar.20 in Santa Barbara, Ca...
Dudis Majoris: Thanks, Fat Jack's vibe (not marimba) received...
Pat: Next tour, I think.
mW
Hey maj: yes, the cowriter of "We've only just begun" (originally written to be the
jingle for a bank commercial I think) is one Roger Nichols. But it's
not THE Roger Nichols.
Funny new article on the SD Page: or am I the only one
who checks it any more?
Re: Bogus Citizen Box set "Rikki" intro... MCA will replace
your CD if you send back the original.
Dr. Wu himself, Phil Woods, will be appearing at The Blue Note in
NYC starting tommorow night, March 11, 1997 through Sunday night
March 16, 1997... Are you with me Doctor???
Joe
having taken the cyber-posture of a sullen artiste, clad in only his skivvies and caked with mud and shrubbery, hiding out just outside the fringe of consciousness that IS the Guestbook...it is pleasing to see the fresh voices, playing nice...
one wonders where that Kinky SoNSo slunk off to...
Procured "Metal Leg" a while ago, looks to be a CD of excerpts of 2 concerts (March 9 & 10, 1974)...as anyone else heard of this? Sez it's from Australia. Good stuff.
rudy
Haven't been able to read the guestbook for a *very* long time... Did the "DanVention" ever take place? Any "special guests" to report? Is Josie still around?
Amanda Numero Dos: even though it doesn't really belong here, congratulations on finding Suesskind's "The Perfume", I am glad you liked it. It was a *huge* success in Germany approx 10 years ago. The language in that book was quite unique and I wonder how well it translates... One of my favourite books of all time!
I know, I am wasting precious Steely Dan bandwidth. But nobody loves them more than I do, anyway:-)
So until my ship comes in...
Dr Mu; Thanks for that Blue Jar-thing.
KNIGHT; You know me and sports... itīs like oil and water. But whatever you say, Iīm glad they won.
I read an inteview with Jojje Wadenius in a swedish newspaper. A question came up about Steely; -Did you learn to know Fagen/Becker well during the tour with them? -Not much, they arrived to the gig after the soundcheck, with sunglasses, and gave a few directives to the band. And before the last song was over they went away in separate limos to separate hotels...
It sounds worse than Diana Ross. I guess I should not confuse the Masterpiece with the Master.
Ruby; go on painting now.
Maxine; I know youīre there somewhere, HI!
Clas
RubyBaby!
I just load in Citizen with one of the solo's usually 11tow. I can accomplish anything then.
Just a thought, If Karen Carpenter had eaten Mama Cass' ham sandwich they would both be alive today.
Don't know if that would have any impact on the world at all but just something to ponder.
DCB
Q; Iīm glad that you are glad.
Pissboy,
There you go again, letting your anti-capitalist, anti-American b.S. pollute this guestbook. You tell us "I guess I should not confuse the Masterpiece with the Master." I tell everyone else, you should not confused the Envious with the Envied. Just because Donald & Walter wouldn't talk to you back when you were stalking them in the 70's, doesn't mean you can start making passing judgement on the way they deal with their hired help. What do you expect them to do. Do you fraternize with your employees? Do you invite them to stay over at your house? Hang out? Shoot the breeze? All Fagen & Becker owe these guys is a paycheck, nothing more. But of course you wouldn't understand that pissboy because you sweedes aren't real men because you can't grow a real beard. Message to you pissboy, fuck off and die, commie.
ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝ
Good point, Ruby Baby. Show Biz on continuous repeat helped to keep up the tempo AND since it's only one song played over and over, I lost track of real-time. Nothing worse than getting to the end of a CD to remind me of how pathetically long I've been scraping and painting. Repeat eliminates that totally. Try Katy Lied while painting smaller rooms. The warm piano sound takes on a new life in the close quarters of a smaller room, like the bathroom. Just think of those chord changes in the intro of Dr. Wu.
Something special.
Sue, LH, and other Phillys: tonight, tuesday, 8 till 9 pm on 88.9 WBZC. You got the right dynamic....
maj.
OK!!!!
"But of course you wouldn't understand that pissboy because you sweedes aren't real men because you can't grow a real beard. Message to you pissboy, fuck off and die, commie. "
STOP for goodness sakes!!!!!
That piece of negative, un-called for bullshit has to stop. Why in the world does CLAS deserve a response like that? WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO TO YOU?
In the past I've rarely ever responded directly to a post such as this. However, I cannot help myself any longer. I take full responsibility for the "negative vibe" that has permeated this GB over the last year or so. I often encouraged it. But lets understand something here. There is a big difference between being sarcastic, and attacking an individual. If you think that is what this band represents, well, again your wrong. To me Walter and Donalds music usually attacks concepts, not individuals (usually...). Attacking an individual while hiding behind the anonymity this forum provides is chickenshit.
So come to the DanFan Guestbook wearing your flame retardant clothing -- leave the bullet proof vest at home. We're all friends here.
RUDY: ROCK = KINKY? Just a thought.....
ROCK: Crawl back under
Peace, AND I MEAN PEACE GODDAMNIT Why does everyone keep defending Clas? Can't he fight his own
battles?
Is Clas really worthy of such a defense? On Feb. 23(4:17) he
actually threatened to kill another Guestbook member! That is the most offensive thing I have ever seen on the internet...so far!
If people want to start choosing sides, they should pick their allies carefully!
Dear REALITY CHECKER; I can fight my own battles. But I have decided not respond to mr. R.O.C.K. He is not worth it. OK, I lost my temper when this mr. Philestrio (or whatever) accused me to have put in some perverted pictures in the GuestBook. I donīt know if you saw the pictures, it was real sick shit and I went crazy when he connected me with those pictures.
Anyway, wellcome to the GuestBook, mr Reality Checker.
Dr. Mu; Is it Jamiroquai you mean? The English band? They are good.
San Fransisco Knight; Email me, maybe we could work something out with that 11 Tracks O.W. My adress is above.
Does anyone know anything about a mythical video from the Gaucho period.Yesterday I was asked about this for the second time in less than 6 MoI'm starting to wonder if it's some kind of hoax or what? Supposedly, Katz had shot some footage in the studio with the idea of turning it into a promo video of some kind, OR actually made a promo video that was killed before it ever came to fruition. Can anybody confirm any of this or is it just a bunch of BS? Inquiring minds and all that.
lovebob
ps. didja ever notice that when you play the end of Show Biz Kids backwards the lady screaming "DOOOOOONAAAAALD" sounds alot like "turn me on Walt-Dog" ?????
boblovesbob: Backward masking in a Dan song?!? The exalted ones actually have something in common with Black Sabbath!? Scary thought. (How do you get a cd to play backwards?)
St. Al: I can't defend R.O.C.K., but isn't he behaving in much the same manner as Clas? Seems to me some of the more vitriolic and insulting posts over the last few months have been authored by our swedish friend....he who lives by the sword...Have a hard time believing that R.O.C.K. might be Kinky. Kinky is, I think, more articulate.
Kinky: Where are you? Defend yourself.
DCB: Old joke. I suspect you need to be old to get it.
johnboy: yea I know it's old but I thought some of the younger posters could look it up could look it up, sort of an educational thing. Kinda of like bringing a bad line to a whole knew generation.
DCB
Please do not confuse my intention. It was not to specifically defend CLAS or flame the hell out of ROCK. They were merely the examples of the moment. However, MOST of what is spewed forth from ROCK's keyboard is negative. Not so with Clas. Also, reality checker, the difference -- AGAIN -- is the post to which you refer was a knee jerk reaction from CLAS (my take) when ROCK incorrectly accused him of something. Yesterdays post from ROCK was an uncalled for attack. There is a distinction.
Re-read the post. The intention is to try to regain a slightly more positive vibe on this here GB. That's all. As far as my crack about Kinky, it's just been so long, I kinda miss him. Maybe I can pry him loose....
St. Al: Talk about uncalled for attacks! What do you call pissboy's bashing of D&W in their treatment of his sweedish brother George?
My problem with Clas is his America bashing, nothing else. I've never met the guy. All I know is he passes judgement on everyone from a Swediocentric attitude that is undeserved, unearned and insulting. And until the day he can provide specific examples of what the swwweeeedddish peoples have contributed to the world community, I say he can't pass judgement on our society or the popular culture that results from it. That includes Donald & Walter and if they decide to treat their tour sidemen the way almost everyone in capitalist societies treat their employess, fine. It's their fucking lives. It's their fucking money. I'm sure they would rather spend that so called quality time with their family and friends, not a bunch of their employess. So if I'm guilty of sticking up for Donald & Walter as well as the United States of America, well, sue me.
Bob Tedde: How was The Steely Damned road trip to San Francisco?
Does anyone have the "NEW" (correctly mastered/black sticker)Decade?
Does the "Rikki" intro appear intact on that CD?
Maybe D + W decided to drop the marimba intro because it sounded to Horace Sliverish (or is that Silverfish).
m.e.
Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p
Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p
Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p
Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p
R.O.C.K.: At St. Al's suggestion, I reread Clas' post that apparently prompted your defensive tirade. Where's the America bashing? Seems to me that you are behaving in much the same manner as you complain that he is. Plenty of Swede bashing in your post. I'm neither Swedish nor American and from my perspective, you and Clas are nearly indistinguishable from one another. Take your own advice.
"You come up blazing like an open sore". Both of you.
um St. Al, uh, whatthehellisgoin'on?
I posted something yesterday (Wed. ~5 pm EST) and now it's gone.
It wasn't even like the vitriolic, adolescent bullshit that we've come to expect from certain parties, so, I humbly ask,
"where the hell isit?"
I even complimented you on your wonderful page, wazzup?
YGK
YGK: Dunno? I thought the posting seemed light yesterday. Anyone else experience this? Oh yeah -- THANKS! I think....?
ROCK: Food for thought (and my last comment on this subject): You are a perfect example of the type of American CLAS loves to bash, no? Yeah, I'm proud too, but I don't wear it on my sleave. Are you from Texas? {snicker.....}
Peace, Johnboy: So you hate the Americanos and the swweeeedess? Where the hell are you from? France?
Joke of the Day:
Q. How many Frenchmen does it take to defend their country?
A. No one knows. They've never tried before.
St. Al: I love ya', man!
ROCK: oooooooooooohhhhhhhhh - the things you say.
st. al--my post from yesterday is gone. what's up with that? is it because i'm from texas?
i even agreed with you--that a little vitirolic wit is totally welcome here. but i pointed out that answering someone's (i.e. clas's) being ignorant and insulting by being even more ignorant and insulting (as r.o.c.k. was) is not.
st. al, do i detect a little jealousy? i know you secretly wish you were from texas.
u.s.a. bashing, sweeeeeedess (what they hell is up with writing it like that, r.o.c.k.?) bashing, texas bashing...... what is this board coming to? everybody ease back!
peace from texas,
rabbit
rabbit, I'm soooooo sure you're envious of all of us here in the Big ole Apple - being near one of our boys and all that...
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!
DMB will achieve obsolescence when GOD STREET WINE gets back from Europe. Anyone agree, disagree, care? GSW has been known to pull off some mighty-fine, high-energy dan covers, as well as some oh-so- smokin' O-riginals...If ya haven't heard 'em ya oughta shoulda, then ya oughta shoulda go see 'em.
DMB will achieve obsolescence when GOD STREET WINE gets back from Europe. Anyone agree, disagree, care? GSW has been known to pull off some mighty-fine, high-energy dan covers, as well as some oh-so- smokin' O-riginals...If ya haven't heard 'em ya oughta shoulda, then ya oughta shoulda go see 'em.
why does that happen?
why does that happen?
Hello everybody. It seems that while I was away everyone got a little testy. I personally don't think D or W would appreciate it...unless it's done in an incredibly subtle, cool, and enjoyable way for everybody, which it wasn't, but I love you all, so I don't care.
I live in Dallas(YES...I'm from texas) but I grew up in Tyler(120 miles east of Dallas) and I come home on the weekends so that's why I have'nt said hi in awhile. I don't have a computer of my own, so I have to use my boyfriend's. Anyway I had a cool moment today. I thought for the longest time that I had lost my Nightfly cd, and when I was packing up my car to come home today(I'M ON SPRING BREAK!!!!!!!!YYYYYEEEEAAA!!!!!) I found it in my trunk!!! I was so happy I almost puked, and I listened to it all the way from Dallas to Tyler.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MIAMI!!!!!!
I can't remember who it was but someone mentioned the book Perfume in response to something I said about it last week. I'm glad it was big in Germany. I don't know if it lost anything in the translation because I don't speak German, but if it did then it must of been pretty damn good to start out with.
Anybody seen the movie Sling Blade? I just saw it last night and it was phenominal. Go see it.
Well, lucky you, I'll be here for the next week and a half with acces to a computer, so I can o.d. on the gb and all the lovely obscure voices on it. I can't wait.
I got plenty of Red Stripe and Sherman queen size milds...
Amanda Numero Dos
p.s.--Amanda Numero Uno..WHAT'S UP!!!! how you doing? missed ya
Geez...were the hell is everybody? I'm all hyper because I'm on vacation and NOBODY WILL TALK TO ME!!!!!!
Do I sound desperate and lonley? I prefer languid and bittersweet...
Jesus Donald Fagen Christ we need a chat room...
Bored and on spring break in lil ole Tyler, Texas...
Amanda Numero Dos
R.O.C.K: Whoa. Didn't say I hated anybody. Didn't even imply it. Don't dislike Swedes or Americans (or any one else for that matter) just because of where they happen to reside. Seems to me that is a completely irrelevant criterea. I did say that you were behaving the same way that you accuse Clas of behaving. Read St. Al's post. Assholes do indeed come in all nationalities. Sorry but I'm not french. Your "joke" is nevertheless an insult to just about everybody. What would your joke have been if you thought I was black, jewish or female. I shudder at the thought. St. Al is right, technology is bitchen. Kinda hard to spew bigotted venom at someone when you have to guess why you should hate them, isn't it?
Enough of these ad hominem attacks already.
My apologies to everyone else for the rant. Geez, we need an album or a tour or a sighting.
I wouldn't screw deity. I worship the Gods of music. Give me Tyra Banks any time!
Personally I find it nearly impossible to believe that any SD fan could display the intensity of ire I've seen on this page of late. It's a tough one to love the USA and all it stands for and then deny another the right to have their say. Really it doesn't matter to me. In the words of Rodney King "Can't we all just get along...."
Let's everyone take a deep breath and a listen to Babylon Sister or hell, just about any Steely Dan song!
End of Subject!
I think finding a lost Nightfly is better than getting it in the 1st place. At least that's the way I feel about stuff I love. Glad it finally turned up, Amanda numero dos.
a major thanks to the MajorDude! I've started this project & I'm gonna finish it! Great advice is always welcome.
CLAS: Hey, buddy! I've been real busy, but I've noticed the trouble you got into...Thank God you're resiliant! There's an old American saying that goes "Don't let the turkeys get you down!" I think it's American.
Anyway, if it was reported that THE TWO were rude or something, why not talk about it? Who ever said they were the nicest guys on the planet? However, it's been my experience that sometimes what is perceived as curtness is really not. Misunderstandings are abundant about these things.
Start looking in your real mailbox in about a week.
rubybaby
Edd Cote: Hey man, I've been here
and there and everywhere
and I like it !!! Keep it coming. Beautiful. Ooops, beware, everybody, don't use
above links if you don't like dissections ... but what kind of!
Dear all: let's cheer up and blow the sub-amiable perfume off this friendly
place. I mean, away with that smell of hatred. Thanks, no replies needed,
if you're looking for my opinion. While I'm also ready to take some flames
if that's what you like :-} Lets have some more fun and things like
THESE! Enjoy their happy home every now
and then.
Ruby,Baby: Happy painting! Colour your world! Do you paint pictures as well?
I'd want one.
I tossed in my AIA disc this week and was struck (once again) by the brilliance of the re-arranged Reelin'. This is by far my favorite song of the past 3 years, 'cause it's the only "new" Steely Dan song in three years!!! If anyone with access to D&W is surfing this wave, please let the boys know we are desperate for new SD material. I'll just bet that if the boys come out with some new stuff, the relavance of the posts to this site would increase by several orders of magnitude. Cheers to anyone with a post in the 1995 archives. Thanks St. Al for trailblazing what was once such a fascinating site. "Don't the moon look pretty;"
--The LA Connection--
Dan fans of the world, I need your help. I am a first grade teacher in Anchorage, Alaska. Our school, Ursa Minor Elementary, is having a contest called "Write around the World." Please send a postcard to our school in my name. The class that receives the most cards by the end of March wins a popcorn party and a free trip downtown to see the ice sculptures. By the way, my class loves Steely Dan, their favorite being (of course) "Everyone's Gone to the Movies" (juuuust kidding). They don't have a favorite although one boy kept asking to hear "Throw Back the Little Ones" last week. Send cards to:
Ursa Minor Elementary
c/o Mr. Stewart's class
6th Ave and Hoonah
Ft. Richardson, Alaska
99505
Thanks:
Mr. Stewart
amanda numbero dos--nice to see another texan on the board. ever get down to houston?
be careful, though; around here it's bad enough being a shallow, money-grubbing, capitalist from the u.s.a., but you and i are of course even worse in our status as shallow, money-grubbing, capitalist, ignorant hicks from texas.
ygk--ooh, the BIG APPLE! but you should see the apples in texas, man........... talk about BIG! i usually like to sit on them to put on my cowboy boots. yeah, right.......
no lp friday tonight. bummer man.
peace,
rabbit
Got nothin' better to do? Wanna see some really bad html? I've just
updated my dubious web page...
Yet another temple of The Dan... and such.
Joe
Let's try that again...
Edd: Thanks for the Bodhissatva page! I think I needed you to teach that boring chemistry class I had. I may not have understood everything you said, but I would have loved the class.
I was reminded of the song, You Are the Potter I Am the Clay.
George: Hi, and thanks for the encouragement! Don't be such a Stranger - sign in more often, OK?
And since you asked me, my favorite lyrics are: any minor world that falls apart comes together again & don't you think it was wrong to interrupt my song? I'll pack my things and run so far from here, goodbye,dear. And I love it when Donald Fagen sings, "Mad dog surrender" in DTMA. Whose idea do you think that was, WB or DF?
rubybaby
Mr. Stewart:
I jumped out of my easy chair...and rushed to the snailbox to deposit not 1, but 2 (yes,Two) Snorkle-Bob postcards (from the native-land of the Walt-Dog, no less)...and I mean really...
mW
mynawhirled-- McBride, Haynes, Kenny Garrett, and Wallace
Roney.
My dearest rabbit,
I know what you mean about those apples. Those wackos in NY don't know what they're missing. You should try wearing a pair of chaps, too...and nothing else!! I used to live in Houston. But unfortunately the experience was less than thrilling, but I think it was the company I was keeping. Then again, I'm just a lil ole small town girl and I don't take too kindly to the big city sometimes. It frightens me a might bit, I reckon. Boy I bet all this hick talk really annoys the hell out of everybody. Oh well.
In the corner of the sty
i saw the piggies rootin'
they were tryin' to fly
the cows say hi
a little ditty from texas, ya'll...
Amanda Numero Dos
p.s.--I'm glad somebody fixed the cute litle spiraly thing on the left side of the page. It doesn't interfere with the pretty little words no more...and that's cool, daddy-o.
Many thanks, Minor World. I can smell that popcorn poppin.' Now, how about the rest of the Dan fans? Help a brother in need!
Mr. Stewart
So..... I'm watching "Patton" (the movie) on TV the other night and it's getting twards the end of the movie and there's this scene where in Patton's 3rd Army is racing twards berlin AAAAND a truck drives by with a handmade sign on the side of it reading "Hey Ike, wanna win the war? LET GEORGE DO IT" ! Coincidence? You decide.
BTW, for those who were interested, the SF Steely Damned show was wonderful! The crowd was very enthusiastic and the venue was outstanding. we're hoping to follow it up with another SF date in early May!
Also, there is some interest in bringing the Damned to Austin Texas. Anybody out that way interested in giving me some info?
And yet also... Las Vegas in June??? It could happen!
lovebob
ps. SUPERFAN: thanks for the aural excitement! You were great! I'll Email you soon.
Mr. Stewart,
I'm planning on spending part of my precious sunday(that would be today) writing out a couple of postcards to your lovely class. Always here to help a fellow Danfan in need. Do you think the kids would prefer to receive one from Peg or Dr. Wu? Oh wait, I know...Mr. LaPage, right? jjjjuuuussst kidding!
Hope ya'll win.
Amanda Numero Dos
Write on, Amanda! And all the way from my home state of Texas.....Yes, I did my time in Temple. SO that's four in the bag now, plus the 40 or so others we've received so far. Come on, people. Send those post cards. Would you deny a group of seven year olds the opportunity to go look at the ice sculptures in downtown Anchorage? You're not that cruel...
well not most of you anyway.
Mr. Stewart
Whew...looks like a splendid time to have been away for a while.
YGK: silly one, asking questions like that of Ruby Baby.
Clas: it must be very boring in Sweden.
RubyBaby: I agree with your respect for the lyric "any minor world that falls apart comes together again". A grander perspective than the moment to moment and very minor tragedies that happen all the time. Sometimes things do work out, just wait half a second!! Thanks. BTW, if you need help painting, consider me first in line!
Paul C.
PS- DR. Mu, I guess you're still trying to figure what kind of person you are?
Yeeehaw!!! what the hell are you doin' way up there in Alaska, Mr. Stewart? It's a might bit cold up ther for a Texas boy, ain't it? Just sitting around and it's a little cold here as well. I can't remember who recomended it, but I went out and bought Moon Palace by Paul Auster. Good book. I'm enjoying it immensely. So thanks whoever you are.
Amanda Numero Uno... how ya doing? Haven't seen your face around here lately. Where'd you go?
How's Houston rabbit?
Amanda Numero Dos
Just been lurking at all the jerking...
StAl - I seem to recall you reprimanding a fellow poster for pointing
the finger at Clas for those dirty pictures. Now, maybe I'm jumping
the gun here, but aren't you guilty of the same thing by
insinuating that I am ROCK? Hey now, let's at least be consistent.
About this Amanda situation...
Tedde - Haven't heard from you or Pete, I guess my offer wasn't good
enough? Speaking of the Steely Damned Tour, what is 20 feet long
and has 8 teeth? The front row at your show in Austin.
A friend of mine recently played me a tape from Roseland, I forgot
how great On the Dunes was. Ricky
Lawson would have been great on that tune.
Good olīchaps, darn long time... Iīve been away for a while, so I had to read this site over again to see what we where talking about and I saw some comment that I forgot to respond to;
mr... scroll scroll... no, not mr, it was Babylon Sister.
BABYLON SISTER; Yes, I agree with you. To dissect music is for me like if you would tear a flower apart and look at the different parts and try to figure out why the flower is so beautiful.
RUBY; I donīt know what you mean here, I just read an interview with Wadenius and made a comment to it. What I mean is, try to remember who this guys are when you read Beckers "happy musicians" bullshit on some homepage here, I`ve forgot wich.
Iīll will wait for the Postman, and I think you should do so too.
PPPPaulCCC: Yeah, someone who knows the difference between Avagadro and an avacado.
Amanda, Rabbit, Mr Stewart: Yet another Texan here...and we're not the only ones.
What a fix!!!!! After years and years and years some Dan rarities which had not graced my ear yet arrived at my door. Home at Last (live) is so seamless, the pace ebbs and flows (I need Edd's help to explain the details), and the ENERGY!!! I'm sapped. ...and a nascent Your Gold Teeth II...Omartian, young Jeff Pocaro, Dias, Walter, Donald, Katz...after the guitar solo (my personal fave- Kinky told us that it was courtesy of Denny "I don't bend my finger for anyone" Dias) DF exclaims "Holy Fuck! That's great!!" The Heart of Steely Dan. Thank You!!!
Uhhh... I meant Denny"I don't bend a *string* for anyone" Dias
GEORGE: just got the tape in the mail....haven't listened to it, sure it'll be good.
I'm really digging this "Metal Leg" CD I picked up...someone please tell me that they've got it as well or I'm gonna start thinking I have discovered a rare live SD compilation all by meself...it's from 2 back-to-back shows from CA. in March 1974...
rudy
Rudy: yeah, I've got it, Irvine 3.10.1974 & San Diego (the city of brotherly Lovebob and Peg)3.9.1974. Capricorn Records 1995.
While we on the subject of old Steely Dan concerts....Does anyone know if they played in San Diego (the old Balboa Stadium) either in the summer of 1976 or 1977. My hubby and I are at odds over this one. He says SD played a big outdoor concert with Frampton and Gary Wright (he thinks). I say I don't believe they were there (quite likely though I wasn't in my right mind!!) Appreciate it if you could help resolve this conflict....
Does anyone know if "Eye to Eye" is still together?
There's a band by that name booked at a Connecticut casino on April 6th. I'd hate to drive down and be disappointed...
Edd (who just spent a week in L.A. and understands why D&W couldn't wait to get back to NYC...)
HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY!!!!!! Even though I don't really care, coming from the highlands of Scotland (sunny OLD Scotland). I'm an immortal you see...according to the movie anyway. But I never miss an opportunity to have a good excuse for drinking too much. A little St. Paddy's day joke for you: What's Irish and stays out all night? Paddy O' Furniture. HA HA HA ...ha ha..ha hum...
Amanda Numero Dos
amanda numero dos--whassup? houston is great, except for all the flash flooding, that is. did you say you were in tyler? how is spring break?
i must say i'm quite gratified to find some fellow texans on the board. road trip to austin to see the steely damned, anyone?
kinky--where are you from, new jersey or something? have you ever been to austin? i guess your crack about austin must be just a symptom of some pathetic, yankee inferiority complex, kind of like the one goldkeith obviously has......
heheheh....
peace,
rabbit
Oh great...another geographical war. (Yawn) Bye, bye Dallas.
rabbit,
sorry you're soggy. Tyler's okay, and spring break is better. You have a point. I mean we live in the only state that could get away with printing cool t-shirts about it... you probably won't see anybody wearing a shirt that says "Fuck You, we're from Idaho" now wil you? They're just jealous. I'm only kidding, guys. I don't want to be responsible for another war about anyone's geographical location. I mean technically I wasn't even born here, I was born in New Mexico. But I'm still a Texan forvever, damnit. I guess I must've missed something rabbit, but who are the steely damned? and when's the show?
We fought, now I can't remember why. But we'll walk between the raindrops back to your door, won't we rabbit?
Amanda Numero Dos
p.s.--in honor of the holiday I just won't to add that I'm southern by birth, but Scottish by the grace of God...and if anyone wants to get into a fight with ME about being Scottish, well, you just go ahead and try...'cause I'm way to proud for anything you say to even provoke a response. Plus I'll just cut your head off with a sword or something!!!!
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Houston-
"You open up your wet-suit and you swim between the raindrops back to your door..."
Aquaman Numero Quatro
Oh shit, itīs so boring here in Sweden. I wish I was born in Tyler, east Texas.
Cold Lazarus
Texas Sucks! Yuck!
Period.
In fact, itīs so boring here Sweden so I soon will commit suicide. When itīs time for us swedes to kill our selfs we can borrow a gun from the government. But we have to pay for the bullet. Did you know we all have to wear grey uniforms? No cars, no guitars, no movies. Just grey uniforms and work all day. Oh I wish I was born USA, in some isolated village in the Appalachian, I could play my banjo for my parents, who probably was closely related before they got married. Or Slidell, sitting ouside my hovel and listen to the crickets, oh maay, oh maay. And my favou-movie would be Toppgun, with Tom Cruise, the best actor in the world. I mean in USA. (well, thats the same deal)
Oh jee oh jee
spare me, pissboy.
Aye, Aye! Amanda - "The Blood Is Strong"
I'm also a Scot by lineage, but a New Yorker by birth, and if anyone wants to get into a fight about my being a New Yorker, well, don't waste my time!
Mac-Kinky - there seems to be a "minorworld" that misses your wit and wisdom, wazzup with dat?
YGK
Aye, Aye! Amanda - "The Blood Is Strong"
I'm also a Scot by lineage, but a New Yorker by birth, and if anyone wants to get into a fight about my being a New Yorker, well, don't waste my time!
Mac-Kinky - there seems to be a "minorworld" that misses your wit and wisdom, wazzup with dat?
YGK
Tell you what Keith, I won't make any comments about you being from NY if you don't start in on me about Texas(SOME people just can't resist an opprotunity to...and I didn't even SAY anything about Sweden) And it's good to hear from another Scottish person. Lowlands or Highlands?
Amanda
well i'm back.... have i mentioned that my dad is from texas? well he is... fort worth to be exact. but i abstain from any pro- or anti-texas comments, because that's just dumb.
anyway, i, too, am home for spring break, which is why i HAVEN'T been posting.... i guess there's more to do in l.a. than in tyler. anyway, i've got no real news to report, except that i, myself, am back in the studio with a steely dan cover... this time it's "daddy don't live in that new york city no more"... though i really don't think my daddy ever lived in that new york city, to be honest.
amanda #1
PPPaul: I suppose you're right - just wait half a sec. The thing I've come to realize is this: it's ALL minor! Hey, thanks for the offer to help paint. If you'll notice though,(use your cyber-vision now)THERE IS NO LINE! BTW: How tall are you?
Hi, Amanda #1! I'm glad you had better things to do. At least SOMEBODY has a life around here!
If I suddenly found myself in a studio, I think I would do MIYS. I sound pretty good on that one in the shower!
CLAS: Jou love the thunder,jou love the rain. See ja later,gator!
RubyBaby
OK, OK - no Texas comments
I just remembered the T that says,
"Brooklyn, where the weak are killed and eaten."
Partially true, partially false - 'tis more hype than reality tho.
YGK
G'day all...
Just planning the family's 'World Tour' for later this year, hoping that by the time we reach NY, the album's out and D&W are showcasing the new album. Got to sort out our NY accomodation (budget-ish) so any suggestions from Manhattanites or regular visitors would be gratefully received. [Prague also a problem if there are any Guestbookers from there with local knowledge]
Mr Stewart: p/c written and on its way to the frozen north. Hope it's not too late to help secure the popcorn.
Clas...: now be nice (and send Mr Stewart a postcard).
Richard&kangaroos
YGK: OK, that's Manhattan NOT Brooklyn
Thanks
R&ks...
I have a better offer..... Also have to disagree on AIA, Ithink Green Ear & Kid C are the class acts for that disc.
Sorry to keep plugging away here, but I wanted to let you know I added some sound bytes to the page. Let me know if the AU format is OK, or if you have a better suggestion. Some of these tunes you've probably heard, but I'll continue to try to dig up some rare stuff.
Amanda #1
Dad's from texas, eh? no wonder you're so cool(that' doesn't mean people from other places aren't cool, though. jeez, it's getting to where i feel the need to apologize anytiime a mention a geographical location at all...this is ridiculous) having a good time on your spring break i hope. i've ended up spending most of mine writing a paper on King Lear. anyone wanna help?!?! proobably not. good to see your post A. you're number one ha ha.
oh gosh it's getting late and i'm getting weird
i wonder, clas, would you care to discuss something neutral for a change? i mean you are swedish..and it's close to switzerland...
peace my zombies
now we dolly back, now we fade to black
The NYR+SR is the best sounding "live" album I have ever heard. All the songs are very crisp and clean with the sound up front.
I like AIA, but I think that NYR+SR sounds better.
AIA does have some great songs. Third World Man (slower/scarier/menacing Fagen vocals) and Aja (great chorus/harmony) are superb. I like them even more than the originals.
Would most people here agree that NYR+SR sound quality is a little better than AIA? If so why? Indoor vs. Outdoor venue(s) maybe?
m.e.
(with no sleep)
AMANDA 1 or 2; Sweden is neutral.
Mr. Stewart: My postcard's off to Alaska.
Ruby: Now I'll probably be seen a little more often soon. As I found out
again lately, there's always a greener pasture to be found, if you look
out. Steppenwolf gotta move on.
Hey all: Who would be willing to tape me some roulade(s) that Cathy Berberian
can/could sing? Anybody out there? email me pls. And if someone has ideas
or places for Good King Richard (see above), I'd like to be CC'ed, as we'll be around
the place in summer, too.
over. George.
GOOD KING RICHARD; OK, I will try. Promise.
Have you seen a kangaroo, in the wilderness? They can kick asses canīt they? Tell me all about it.
(WHO should I send a postcard?)
AMANDA 1 or 2; (how am I supposed to keep them apart, I canīt keep myself apart) So, your from Scotland! That is funny because I was asking my dear (my dearest, dearest little honeycomb) Ruby about inches and the metric system, but she did not bother to answer, she was only interested in sex. Well, do you know if Scotland has their own metric system, Scotland Yard?
And now I will go and fuck myself. Sex on your own is at least sex with someone you respect.
m.e. I agree with your assessment of the sound on NYR&SR. My guess is that the venue (Beacon Theatre vs. outside stadiums) and the sound equipment used for the outside performances are the key differences in the crispness of the sound. DF produced both releases and Roger Nichols manned the board on AIA tours. I'd like to hear from others who would have more direct knowledge of those performances/equipment. I still love many of the performances on AIA. s
Aja and TWM, the Book of Liars performance is also dazzling. There was something special about the way Warren Bernhardt, Drew Zingg, and Peter Erskine worked together with '93 SD
Good King Traveler: New York City presents a myriad of possibilities for hotel accomodations, as well as a myriad of opinions of people in or out of the know. I'll probably get flamed for some of my suggestions, but what the hell.
I haven't yet heard of a Motel 6 in Manhattan, but some of the less expensive chains include the Ramada Inn (West side, theatre district), the Holiday Inn (midtown). The Hyatt is a bit pricier. There are options, though. For instance, you could stay at a B&B in Brooklyn (one that I know of). No, the neighborhood isn't scary - actually it's quite nice. Park Slope, Brooklyn, is one of the fastest growing communities in the city, and for good reason. Prospect Park centralizes a liberal following of families, artists, musicians, entrepreneurs, etc. The B&B I'm thinking of is right on the park and reasonable. So enough about my neighborhood.
If you can avoid staying in midtown as a general rule, that would help you avoid the tourist trappings. I prefer downtown. If you could contact your international travel agent, they would probably have the industry hots of the moment, but those above are some guidelines.
I'll ask at my company and see if I could get you a corporate discount, but I'll need travel details.
Anyway, if you get lost in NY, ask a New Yorker, they love to tell you where to go and what to do.
YGK
Clas,
Iam Scottish, it's true but I have never lived there so I don't know if they have their own metric system or what.
Amanda #2
I have a question for all you musician type people out there. I play the piano and I was wondering if anyone knows of a book of Steely Dan's music, a fake book, guitar tablature, anything, that I can use as a guide just to learn the chords for some of the songs on the piano. If such a thing does not exist, would anyone that knows the chords to some of the songs(in particular, songs with more prominent piano parts, like Home At Last or Sign In Stranger) be kind enough to let me know what they are? I would be most appreciative.
Amanda #2
Morey Eel - I think it's obvious that the quality of NYR&SR is better
than AIA, and here are my thoughts on why that is: The
absence on AIA of Dave Hewitt & crew from Remote Recording Services.
Dave has been involved in most of the great live recordings over
the years, it seems that everything he touches turns to gold. Also,
could
it be that long time Dan engineer Elliot Scheiner was also not
involved in the recording and mixdown process on AIA?
Your theory on the outdoor vs. indoor venues doesn't really stand up.
Afterall, not every song on AIA was recorded outdoors, Babylon
Sisters was from an indoor venue in St Pete, and it still doesn't
have the quality of NYR&SR.
But then again, all this
chatter really doesn't matter. Knowing our friends over at Steely
Dan, these songs were probably all redone in the studio anyway. But
you probably figured this on your own, considering you quoted the
word "live". But, hey, I'm sure that the applause was legit.
sometimes i read this guestbook and i wonder...is it possible for an individual to know TOO much about steely dan? the world may never know. i only wish i knew half as much about them as some of you people do. you're just too cool.(and that wasn't a sarcastic remark.)
as far as NYR&SR and AIA are concerned, i like them both. so there.
how many scots does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
three. one to hold the lightbulb and two to drink until the room spins around.
amanda #2
...picture a Scotsman in a kilt with the pipes standing next to a hat full of money - the sign reads "Pay or I Play!"
Malcolm
aka YourGoldKeith
Always glad to help out a fellow Scot (Menzies clan) and piano player.
Hal Leonard pulished a book in 1995 - Steely Dan Complete - about $25
I'm sure if your local music store doesn't have it they'd be happy to order one. It has both of those pieces.
Enjoy!!!!!!!!!
good one malcolm. and thanks, sister. good to know another scot. i'm a McLeod myself...i prefer to be refered to as Queen of the Highlands.
gotta go work on my paper. i'm still waitng for someone to offer to help. any shakespeare efficianados in the bunch?
queenie
...piping in for the Hunter clan...
from the mouth of Sir Harry Lauder,
"if ye c'n sae it's a braw bricht moonlicht t'nicht y'r aw'rite,
ye can"
haw haw hee hee hoo hooo
I'm sure I've said this before, but anywaze...
Most of the published Steely Dan music sux, ranging from down-right wrong to over simplified. It got better as time went on, with the tunes from "Gaucho" being remarkably close in spite of the complexity of the pieces.
Even the "Scores" compilation, while a worthwhile acquisition, has its' moments.
Plan on spending about about 90% of your time figuring out what's wrong and fixing it...
Edd
YGK: Thanks!... That's a great start by which to judge all other recommendations. More Suggestions (for me & George) please.
As for the Scots debate (a Grant and a Murray clan by descent), I lived there for a few years and remember most of the measuring system in pints and parts of gills, though they do have their own currency. And as for Shakespeare ('the Scottish play'?), Amanda/queenie, it's been a while since college but I guess between us we can come up with a bit of help. What's the assignment?
As for the NYR&SR and AIA debate (this is the Danfan page after all), the renderings of Pretzel Logic and Lonely Teardrops are true class and beautifully recorded (the video ain't bad either) but, with ordinary hifi, I have to take AIA as the next true step towards Dan-enlightenment.
Richard&kangaroos
PS Yes Clas... truly beautiful animals! Though unfortunately usually seen dead at the side of the road.
thanks for your offer, Your Worship. i'm writing about King Lear and the topic or main idea is death...what else?
Edd...thanks for the info. i don't mind fixing what's wrong with it. i don't read music all that well, i mostly play by ear anyway. and part of the reason i want the music is so that i can teach myself a bit of theory since even after 10 years of classical piano lessons i'm still no good at it. what better way to learn theory than to sit around and try to figure out a steely dan tune, right?
had no idea there were so many scots. it's a truly beautiful thing, eh?
queenie(i guess i just accidentally on purpose solved our little amanda confusion problem by giving myself a new name... and it's a doozy)
Could I interrupt these intersting discussions for a more mundane query. I need to know the publishing info for SD on Royal Scam,the song i.e. year and publishing company. I and my publisher thank you in advance.
Congratulations and happy anniversary to the relevant parties on this Big Day in Dandom, March 19th
Been out a while. I have a St. Patricks birthday. What a great day
to be born on! Too much green beer.
The April edition of Acoustic Guitar came in today. Pat Matheny is
on the cover. He has a new acoustic CD out with Charley Hayden. Any Dan fans out there have it? I plan on purchasing this weekend. I'll let you know.
I put on CD #4 in the box set today. Very cool songs. Michael McDonald
does a great job on Time Out Of Mind. Home at last is in my top 3 Dan
best.
Large Nawlin's hello to Kink, Earth B, Clas, Max, Rube, Skinny Man.
Jazz Fest, very close. Any Dan fans going, E me.
Zeke
Zeke,
The new Charlie Haden/Pat Metheny release is called "Beyond The Missouri Sky". It is a mostly acoustic CD with Metheny doing some fills on keyboards here and there. If you like Pat's ballads and/or his album "New Chautauqua", then you'll love this one. A very melodic, introspective, folky feel to it. Pat and Charlie have never played better together. It's also got some "80/81" type of stuff on it ala "Two Folk Songs". Do get it! The "Cinema Paradiso Theme" is especially beautiful.
Brian,
RE: Royal Scam publishing info...
"Royal Scam" Donald Fagen and Walter Becker, American Broadcasting
Music, Inc. (ASCAP) 1976 ABC Records, Inc.
mWorld, Ruby, et al. thanks for the comments on the page...
Joe
Amanda/queenie: 'Streuth queenie! It's tough to be a king sometimes.
My pretentious thoughts on death and King Lear are yours but probably best not in this forum... maybe via e-mail return if you mail me at the above address.
Richard&kangaroos
ZEKE; Wellcome back. Youīre out of the rain? I heard you had lots of it a while ago.
AMANDA Queenie; Yes, I guess Edd is right here, Steely Dan Complete is a little... lacky? Ask Ruby, Thereīs no notation on pianosolos and such stuff, just half part of the intros and so. But I think itīs nice to just play along with some of the songs, I guess you can figure out the missing parts, youīre scottish! (Iīm sorry about that foolish little joke here about Scotland Yard, Scotland Yard is UKīs answer to FBI)
RUBY-HONEYPIE: The last days Iīve been listening to Canīt Buy A Thrill, Iīve almost forgot how many good songs there are on that one.
"With a cough I shake it off..."
'PS hell, I almost forgot: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RUBY!
Again?!? Another Josie epidemic? Some of you people are coming on
here like this is a social chat board. If you want to discuss
ancestory and homework, why don't you find your own fucking forum.
This place is ridiculous, no wonder all the regulars stopped
posting.
Why is it that everytime someone posts something relevant or
interesting, no one responds? Morey Eel brings up an interesting
topic, and the teenyboppers respond by talking about their homeland.
And the rest of you hard up cases see a so-called female and egg
them on (I mean, from Gold Malcolm we expect it), but this is a
STEELY DAN board, isn't it?
I guess the only conclusion I can make is that your lack of response
signifies your lack of knowledge of the band, which is OK.
But why don't you shutup and try to learn something, or else go
somewhere else.
And Queenie, don't flatter yourself.
Kink & Eel: I don't have AIA here at work but I think it's clearly stated in the sleeve(?) that there was some "corrections" made in the studio. Let me guess that it was mainly the vocals.
KINKY: Rumour has it DF digitized the audience response and painstakingly shifted each hand clap to create the perfect audience feel for each tune. Notice the laid back swing feel of the applause following
AIA'S "Reelin'" BTW, heartfelt thank yous for your generous offer. Our inability to accept was based soley on econcs. Our best case financial scenario had us breaking even, a situation tannenmount to taking a week off. This might be an acceptable situation further on up the road, but as I explained to Pete, it would have been somewhat crippling in the record slow first quarter we had. I hope the offer might be good at a later date, although my personel financial needs are about to under go those changes that happen when one brings a new Dan Fan into the world.
Question: Do you think home field advantage had much if anything to do with NYR&SR's superior sound quality? It seems to me that having the venue so close at hand AND twice as many chances at getting it right would weigh in heavily as quality factors. The outdoor / indoor argument doesn't hold too much water as everything was close-mic'ed anyways. Just a thought. Kudos for doing your homework on this one.
lovebob
re: New York Rock & Soul Revue! Anybody out there willing to fix me a
tape with that? Email me please. It's probably not so easy to find the
CD over here. And I need to work on my knowledge, ok?
Ruby: "Mad dog surrender" seems to me rather Beckeresque. I do like the
lyrycs of DTMA very much, there's so many cool phrases, "agents of the
law, luckless pedestrians ..." and all. Actually, do we know if any of
the lyrics are WB or DF? I guess no, the credits all name them both.
LASSEMAN! Where have you been? Itīs lonely out here. And you have to be carefull out here. Do you wear your uniform today, grey commie?
Followed an obscure link on the SD site to a nice fan-made
webpage devoted to
Wayne Krantz: check it out.
Amanda #2
As far as Dan Chords and Tablature goes, go to www.harmony-central.com and look up the guitar tablature section, it has quite a few Dan tunes listed including chord progressions.
Hope this helps...
"It'll come back to you"
Fez
Ah, I love the contradictions, Kink - you are a legend in your own mind.
"Why is it that everytime someone posts something relevant or interesting, no one responds?"
Is that a relevant statement?
Your socialistic statement makes me think you belong in Sweden, or try China - maybe try to infiltrate their political system (ha!).
So if you're so brilliant, prove it. Otherwise shut the fuck up and stay off the board. Idiotic statements by mutts like you disturb the natural Dan-related/non Dan related discussions on the board.
Yes, this is the Steely Dan Web page - NOT the page according to Kinky.
Welcome back, jerky. Now say something meaningful other than "I live in Greenwich".
YGK
Ruby: Happy Birthday?
mW
Post cards, post cards, hundreds of 'em pouring in daily. The pop corn party is as good as sewn up but keep sending them in (see my first post for details/address). I think the ice sculptures are melting, so there is talk of revising the other prize...maybe a trip to the zoo to
see the polar bear. The kids are enjoying the messages:
from mworld: "Kids if you want some fun, Mr. StewArt is your man." Thanks to: Amanda, Ruby, (Good King) Richard, Mworld, Georgio and the hundreds of others. Don't delay. Mr. Stewart
Perhaps EddC and some of you bodhisattvas of musical analysis can check me out on this: I was listening to the bridge of "Through With Buzz" (I remember when he stole my girl...) and was intrigued by the spacing of the high hat (or cymbal, or whatever that little 'tsssshhtt' is). The high hat is hit only four times during the bridge, the first two times after 8-1/2 beat pauses and the last two times after 6-1/2 beat pauses. Unsymmetrical but catchy.
Another nifty percussionism is the sparsity of the snare in "Everything You Did". There's only about 5 hits in the first minute of the song and they're all positioned unexpectedly and perfectly.
Do B&F micromanage the percussion or do they issue the drummers artistic license?
SF Knight: I'll explain Geritol if you'll explain what a tosser is.
lovebob: Hilarious! at last Wendell put to good use. I think that the loss of Eliot Scheiner on AIA was a good point. and lb's mention of the clos-mic set-up would seem to reduce the impact of the venue. I'm not
an audio engineer, but I find it hard to believe that you could get the same sound from Carnegie (sp?) Hall vs. Shea Stadium? or Cameron Indoor Stadium (acoustics were fine-tuned for Ella Fitzgerald) vs Greensboro Coliseum (both indoors)
I think an amateur could man the board and it would sound good at Carnegie. The midi or other electronic equipment could be plugged in directly, but what about the mics picking up vocals, saxes, drums etc? Assuming, of course, these were not re-recorde in the studio. I'd like a technical tutorial on how clos-mics work on that.
For the sake of argument I'll stick to my guns for two anecdotal reasons. First of all, seeing and hearing NYR&SR twice on In Concert (ABC late nighte), it seemed that the sound was tremendously crisp, and the sound seemed too open (slight echo, etc) to be close-mic'ed.
Second of all, there are significant differences in the sound in AIA from song to song (venue to venue) and big differences in the clarity between the soft passages and louder passages, with more disortion, cloudiness of sound in the louder passages. The equipment used for larger venues (whether indoors or outdoors) is made for survival at the expense of some sound quality. While a good bit of this
I'm sure can be cleaned up afterwards (is it the cleanup that makes the difference?), from a very simplistic perspective if Power = Current X Voltage, Amps made for larger and less acoustically pure venues inherently must use more current which means more heat and wear and tear. Plus the stuff is lugged around, the emphasis is on sturdiness. Even with today's technology, power amps will have greater distortion. Plus the sound waves at these venues tend to bounce around a lot (often out of phase) muddying the overall sound. LB, Kink or someone else may be able to explain this.
As to the responses, Kink, you may still scare a few folks off. But you're right, you out to stick to Dan if you think Austin is a hick town. Austin has a greater density of liberals than a Mario Cuomo speaking engagement. The University of Texas has more National Merit Scholars than any other university. The population is very diverse with folks of German, Hispanic, Czech, African American, Spanish, some French or Cajun types who moved from the Houston area, and of course a few Scots and Irish for good measure There are trmendous fine arts facilities and lots of music and some of the best food (although much different) outside Louisiana
thank you to everyone for the info and suggestions about steely dan sheet music, etc. your highness, i'll e-mail as soon as i get a chance. appreciate your offer to help. and kinky, i won't apologize for having a natural desire to talk to these people. i love SD as much as the next guy, but i'm not derranged. there are other things that are enjoyable to talk about sometimes. excuse me for being human. i guess you not.
happy birthday ruby! (was it yesterday)
queenie....and i'll flatter myself any damn time i feel like it
go amanda! rock on!
amanda
Amanda:
thank ya kindly, mam.
queenie
Dr Mu, I don't know if you knew, but that NYR&S video that you saw on
In Concert was a different show than the one on the album. The CD was
recorded in March at the Beacon Theater, and the video was shot five
months later at The Academy Theater in NY.
Per request, I added a live sound byte from a band that played at Le Bar Bat, to my page. It's a Doobie Brothers tune, but features Cornelius Bumpus on vocals and Drew Zingg on guitar.
Bob, I like your applause theory. I think I heard my clap but it was definitely messed with. We're thinking of putting something from Rockola on the page (With a Gun-live?), what do you think?
Hey everybody. It has been a long, long time since my last post to this place, but I see that not much has changed, except that now there are TWO college students named Amanda who do not seem to know about capital letters. That's OK, girls, I'm not criticizing; just stating an observation.
I want to say thank you to Edd for his interesting dissections of SD songs, and also want to request more. They're a pleasure to read, despite the fact that I only understand about half of what's being said. Hey, I never said I was a musician -- I just beat on dead animal skins stretched across wooden cylinders.
Not that I mean to be social or anything, but Hi to Clas and Hi to Ruby.
Now LB or someone else who understands sound...we who want to learn are waiting to read your response to DrMu's post. By the way, LB, how about bringing your band to Jamaica? We could, like, party together or something, yes?
Just to get an idea of what songs you might like to hear, on your next post could you let me know if you would be interested in tunes such as "Dallas" or, let's say, a song written by Fagen and recorded by Diana Ross?
Thanks
Hi, all! Thanks for the bday wishes - Clas, you've got a giant-sized mouth but I love ya anyway!
I've got a music question: About 21/2 minutes into Change of the Guard, a very cool sliding thing happens. I suppose it's a guitar, but which kind and who did that - Walter? Denny? Skunk?
Hey, can I get a birthday kiss from Waltdog? love,Ruby
Ruby, I'm not sure but I think that's a pedal steel.
Pete, I really like that clip with Cornelius, wow, I never knew he
could sing. And American Lovers sounds great, where can I find it?
I've heard of a tribute album to Monk with Fagen
contributing something. If you have that, I'd love to hear it!
I've heard Dallas, but you got me on the Diana Ross thing.
On the NYR&SR v. AIA thing.......
I prefer Rock n' Soul. Not for the sound "quality" but because the band sounds more alive than on "Alive". Was it the newness of the band, that they still had a nervous edge?
When it comes to AinA, I listen to it but it doesn't do much for me when it's more pleasure to listen to a full show. Shows at the beginning and end of the tour sound like the band is more "into" it. Especially, on Phoenix 1994 (The Donald laughs and everyone has a big ol' Kelly lapping). Was St. Louis 93 the end of the tour? The final medley has that awesome jam with Donald on keytar, Walter and Zingg-doggy. AinA doesn't seems to capture that energy.
IMHO,
maj.
Pete: Thanks for your insight. I had assumed that the film was recorded at
Beacon, also. What can you tell me about the acoustics/set up differences Beacon and the Academy?
re: "Slidey thing in 'Change Of The Guard'"
I've no idea who did it, but it's a pretty simple trick accomplished by dragging the edge of the pick down the length of one or more *wound* strings.
While the main component of the sound slides down because the point at which the pick contacts the string is constantly changing causing the portion of the string over the pickup to get 'longer'. There's also a portion of the sound that slides *up*, played by the part of the string that's getting shorter.
The timbre also changes, mostly as a result of the change in where the string is vibrated from. Strings picked near the end have a much more trebley, metallic sound while picking in the middle makes them sound rounder and fatter (or flatulent in the case of basses).
Edd
Lonnie & Johnny: The same guy who did American Lovers also did another DF/WB song called "Jones". I posted back in February, asking if anyone had heard these, but no response.....
Lonnie & Johnny: American Lovers might be tough to find, but it's out there somewhere. I agree, Cornelius has a great voice, but unfortunately, the quality of AU doesn't do these songs justice. I have that Monk tribute album, the song Donald did was "Reflections", which also featured Steve Kahn. I'll put that up sometime.
Jam. Dude: I have "Jones" too, which I will also get to sooner or later. What did you think of American Lovers? I think that's a great early tune of theirs.
maj.: No, St. Louis was not the end of the '93 tour. I was at the Greek Theatre show in LA which was a few days later, and there was an even more awesome Teahouse jam, 4-way, with Denny Dias joining Donald, Walter and Drew.
kinky--if only i could be the paragon of impeccable steely dan virtue you obviously are. you are an example to us all.
'gosh we're all real impressed down here i can tell you.'
peace,
rabbit
p.s. queenie--finally saw the sun today. i was afraid it had dissapeared forever.
Mr. Fogel. How about Kuli Ba Ba? Do you have that one?
WAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Spring has sprung!!!! Time to
break out the hats and hooters, and the grill, open the
windows and crank up some Dan!!!!!!!
Ruby--Happy Birthday!
mW--How was Corea and friends????
I prefer NYR&S over A1A for the reasons previously
noted; crispness, energy, etc..
BC
Great soundbite compilation gig Pete! NY R&SR is right on For Pretzel Logic but as for rest- I'll take AIA instead- certifed DAN material no matter (no how well-or not) executed is always preferable. But as for NY R&SR the Holland vinyl pressing is a breathtaking "you are there" quality piece. Relative to the "hometown theory of sonic superiority" I can only say that the Roseland shows also sounded killer(as well as
great execution). My over all opinion is that the band should abandon "sheds" and other inferior venues for the prospect of delivering higher QUALITY product to the serious fan- simply charge $200/ticket face and do 2 shows @ each location @ "music hall & Performing Atrs Centers". Q
That's AiA, not A1A, the highway in FL. I've just got warm
weather on my mind...
Dr. Mu: If only your A's were O's then you'd really know the difference, unless you are satisfied to be approximately correct!
Ruby: Happy Birthday!! Of cooourse I can't claim as lavish an affection as the Meatball, but put on your cyberscope and you'll see it's there! Happy day!
Edd: Do you feel up to a treatise on "Monkey in your soul"? Honest, I'd like your thoughts.
Don't you think it was wrong, Paul C.
maj: my thoughts exactly! what happened to the 'alive' in 'alive in america'? nyr&sr has a much more energetic feel to it overall...
my idea as far as the lackluster feel of aia goes is that the energy was lost in the mixdown. i went to a show, and it wasn't sleepy like that... the acoustics of the venue may have something to do with it, but really not that much...
amanda
RubyBaby; Iīm sorry, couldīnt help myself.
Jamaican; Hi! Nice to see you! Iīve been wondering were youīve been!
Pete Fogel; Funny thing you mentioned Diana Ross, I saw Jojje in an interview on TV a year ago and he was asked about the artists he had been touring with. Steely Dan was an old dream cometrue. But Diana Ross was not that fun. - If you wanted to speak with her you had to ask someone to ask someone to ask somebody who could ask mrs Ross if was possible for her to speak with... (this is not anti-USA-propaganda!)
QUESTIONS; Bad Sneakers; In Steely Dan Complete the lyrics says "... and one more champ who isīnt here..." But to me it sounds like Fagen sings "...one more chimp/chip/chick who isīnt here..."
And in the same book the notation of the melody in the refrain of Razor Boy is totally wrong to me. I donīt have Countdown on Cd and the vinyl is totally whacked up after thousands of listenings so I canīt check.
Anyone? Edd?
The Strapping
I take it amanda was a popular name in the late 70's.
amanda(queenie) there is a complete book of SD sheet music, I found it on the net, but (of course) I dumped the link. If you are interested you can do a yahoo search {Steely Dan+Sheet Music} or if you can't find it or not sure you can e me at above.
Happy belated Birthday RubyBaby!!!!!!!!!!
DCB
A deal! A deal! Do you want a yoyo for a ride? Well, I'm kidding. I do
hereby offer an almost new CD Herbie Hancock "The New Standard" in exchange
for a CD of the NYR&SR (you know these FLA's, dontcha?). Herbie's TNS is
too much Djazzz for me. You, I mean YOU might like it better! And you might
enjoy a letter from over-the-ocean as well! And remember:
it's got that cover version of Your Gold Teeth II, so how about that?
Email me please so we can agree on some procedure.
Yesterdays pleasure: driving in my car, listening and singing to "Don't
take me alive" at full volume! Repeat ad infinitum! That was fun! Can
you imagine that hum of a mechanized world ...
Thanks for the info, Deacon. And you're correct. not only was Amanda a popular name in the 70's, it was the favorite girl name the year I was born(1974) I was actually named after the country&western song by Waylon Jennings. Does anybody have any info about obtaining a copy of FM (for viewing or sale)?
I can't remember who it was, but someone recommended a book called Moon Palace to me, and I just finished it about ten minutes ago. i don't know...a little disappointed.
queenie
p.s.--i know what you mean, rabbit. lucky for me it's smiling down today as well.
Suffering through VH1's '70s Week finally paid off.
Although it was as rare a moment as Donald jumping around on stage, VH1 aired a still photo of some musicians in the studio. It was not SD, but Donald was right of center. I can't see clearly through the red wine, but it might have been during a documentary of Curtis Mayfield. Or maybe not. It was Donald in jeans and sweater.
How can it be that one of the most talented composers of the 70's go virtually unmentioned during this so-called 70s flashback week. Screw you VH1 execs, I hope you get stuck behind a fivesome of Ricky's on the golf course.
Walter would make an excellent guest on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher. G. Gordon Liddy on the same show would be a blast. How bout it?
Finally, Try this if you have cable TV: Tune into the Classic Sports Network for a repeat of a 70's 80s Lakers game and put on Glamour Profession really loud, on repeat. You are there!!!!!!
"....I drove the Chyrsler, parked in the shadows..."
maj.
Maj: Right on with Classic Sports '70's Lakers on the tube & Glamour Profession on the stereo! And how about the E! channel and "Show Biz Kids"?
I can see that I'm gonna hafta get my hands on that NYR&SR. Are George & I the only ones not enjoying it yet? Der Steppenwolf is all the way in Germany - what's my excuse? (Just thought I'd throw that in before somebody else said it)
I can't recall who said they loved the Reelin' from AIA, but I feel the same way. There's something special about it. If I listen to it as I'm getting ready for a date, it puts me in a really good "date mood". If that song is on while I choose an outfit, I'll wear a tight black dress w/ fishnets as opposed to jeans & a sweater. Doesn't matter where we're going - we always have fun. What IS it about that song?
Major: I would stay up way past my bedtime to see Walter on Politically Incorrect anyday! Liddy would be toast, don't you think?
PS: you're the multi-media king of the world, as far as I know.
ruby
re: Amanda in the 70's
Didn't someone who does not deserve mention here on the GB write a popular song in the 70's called "mandy"?
y'know, pianist, singer/songwriter - tres popular?
Could HE be an influence?
YGK
I'm still thinking 'bout that tight black dress w/fishnets!!
PPPPPCCCCC: dAn quAle did it
lb: to hazard a guess at my own question, the signal must travel in a closed mic system from microphone to mixing board then to
loud speakers. This would reduce the effect of the venue, but even if all parties on stage are gehind the speakers, some sould will travel back and must be filtered or tolerated. But a closed mic system seems like a Stratevaius (sp?) without the chamber inside the wooden frame: no richness.
How come those guys don't have guitars in the albums anymore? and what the hell did they do to Elliots Randall's solo on relling in the years? Saxophones!!??? Please. And bring back Larry Carlton and have more long solos in the new album. Fucking Kamakiriad had no guitar solos, expect for Snowbound and it was just a noodle thing! I though Steely Was a guitar band?
Steely Dan is a Jazz band *tee hee*!
Ruby Baby - Happy Belated Birthday! Just on the cusp of Pisces/Aries
Hey! How come we don't tawk anymore?
(mine is next Thursday, 27th)
Old Dan Fan: Are you a Dan fan or just old? Next time you listen to Kama, check out Tomorrow's Girls. What is that long, extended jam that Walter lays out? Or doesn't that count because Donald is singing the "not my...." part?
Ruby: Liddy would probably come out in a costume looking like a piece of toast, that's how "toasted" he would be when Walter carves him up in the Green Room before the show even starts.
Yes, Skinny Man, Show Biz Kids would make an excellent official song for E!
...which leads to.....
MATCH A STEELY DAN SONG TO A NETWORK OR SHOW CONTEST!!
Show Biz Kids -----> E!
The Royal Scam ------> COPS
Get it?
maj.
Don't Take Me Alive---->America's Most Wanted
Everyone's Gone To The Movies----->Pee Wee's Playhouse
Everything You Did---Rikki Lake
and YGK...I know which performer you are referring to, and let's just not talk about it, okay with you? If there's anything I hate more than being called Mandy, I don't know what it is. The Greatful Dead, maybe.
queenie
Any 21 year old fans out there?
Apologies in advance for the non-Dan-related content. Good news for Pat Metheny Group fans. The group will be touring in support of a new PMG album to be released later this year. A date for the Universal Ampitheater has been set for October 18 - yes - 7 months away. Thought you might like to know.....
mWorld - Gladstones at Universal Citywalk - 10/18?
Greetings to St. Al (got the vid, yet??)
PETE: "Reflections" and "Dallas" would be good. I also second the earlier post asking for "Kulee Baba." But the Diana Ross thing would only be good for a laugh.
RUBY: Happy birthday from me, too. . .sorry it's late.
OLD DAN FAN: I liked the guitar on "Snowbound" -- reminded me of George Benson in places. Try 11 Tracks of Whack if you can find it; WB does it his way.
DUUUUDE: Great idea -- I'd pay to see WB on Politically Incorrect, and twice that amount if Daddy G. was on the same panel.
"My sweet, it shows in your eyes."
right on, once again, amanda II. i'll be ANYTHING but mandy.
amanda
PETE: I like "American Lovers", too, but I prefer "Jones"
"....but a monkey on a silver string ain't really all that bad, just waitin' til my Jones comes down on me".
Hey, isn't that Becker playing bass on ALovers and Jones?
I vote for putting up Dirty Work by the Pointer Sisters'. Agghhh!
PETE: I second JamaicanDude's suggestion for "Jones" -- in fact anything from the substantial 11TOW "reject" pile is a big goer.
As for vintage Dan, how about "Decatur Mountain"?
MajDude: G. Gordon Liddy on the docket with WB on Politically Incorrect? I'd better make sure to wear my flame retardant suit to -that- one!!
Ruby: A hopelessly belated Happy Birthday!
Pete: I believe that DF had written a song or two for the Yellowjackets and Manhattan Transfer - perhaps a clip of those might be nice for your page. I love your work so far!
Later, Beautiful Survivor
I was on my way to work today when I noticed a subtle change in the local graffiti. On a certain tunnel, the words "Throw back the little ones" have appeared for a number of years and have caught my attention more than once. On this day, however, I noticed that someone, in smaller yet brighter letters, had painted "and pan fry the big ones" underneath. I'm contemplating finishing the chorus myself....
We added a new page of sounds to our site, at this rate, I might run out of stuff before the end of the year! I took your suggestions and added "Jones", and one of my favorites, the quad version of "Reelin'" with different guitar parts.
Jamaican Dude: The liner notes from "American Lovers" and "Jones" which give the player lineup, are included on the sound pages. If they are illegible due to your browser, Walter did play bass on both songs, and Donald played on a few others from that album.
Citizen: Mmmm, Whack "rejects"...I do have a version of "Our Lawn", which may fit into this category, but do you think people would mind hearing it with all the applause? Decatur Mountain? I'll have to check the vaults for that one.
Tell you what, lay off for a while and you pay--takes forever to catch up on this page.
YGK--one of my oldest buds lives in Park Slope. If I visit this year I'll look you up.
Eddman--are you really joking when you say "Bodhi" is about dishes? It conjures up all those gullible guru-seekers of the sixties and early seventies who adopted all manner of embarrassing personas in their search for enlightment (I'm gonna sell my house in town--and move to the ashram). Say, one of these days can I follow you & the other technoheads around while you engineer or play? Does anyone else love to sit and listen to people who are speaking a language you don't understand? It would be like that. (Actually, Clas, it would be a little like reading some ofyour posts)
Ruby & other parents--great exchange about passing on Danlore to the offspring. I think I've got you all beat--my oldest son is 19 (back off, Fran), and when he left for college we had to buy him the whole Dan catalogue. He loves 'em--so I guess I've done my job as a mom. And of course you know what I played on the phone long-distance on his birthday this year.
Roy--did they give you any Steelyzine at the clinic? And I think it's methadan. Yours in relapse....
One last thing--OK, Mr. Stewart, the postcards are fun and I'll send you one from North Carolina, but when are you going to tell us who you really are?
P.S. it's chimp.
Kids this is the last week to get a postcard fired off to my class so we can win the contest. Actually, I could care less if we win (although a field trip is always nice). I am digging the cards being sent in. Snorkle Bob from Maui, faded valentines from Ruby, fat cuban gentleman from somewhere in FLA, a genuine double helix from Sal at M.I.T., one hellof a gorgeous Zoos...
Who am I really, Oleander? I'm that anemic looking fellow you'll see buying organic oranges at Carrs in Anchorage.
Mr. Stewart
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that's one hell of a gorgeous giraffe from Sal in Five Zoos.
Ursa Minor Elementary
c/o Mr. Stewart's class
6th and Hoonah
Ft. Richardson, Alaska
99505
M:
OBVIOUS:
EVERYONE'S GONE TO THE MOVIES-------> Siskle & Ebert
I've Got The News-------------------> CNN
LESS OBVIOUS:
Only A Fool Would Say That----------> Rush Limbaugh
Turn That Heartbeat Over Again------> Chicago Hope
Throw Back The Little Ones----------> Cops!
(Alternate:Don't Take Me Alive)
The Royal Scam----------------------> Meet The Press
POLITICALLY INCORRECT:
BLACK COW--------------------------->Oprah (Joke, joke, ok?)
Caves of Altamira--The Discovery Channel
Book of Liars--The O.J. Trial
Kid Charlemagne--Scarface
Mr Stewart("Juneau" who you are): If you are an anemic looking fellow, I suggest that you lay off the oranges and purchase yourself some Steely Dan Breakfast Meat. Oranges are good for Scurvy Brothers only! A postcard and iron supplements are on their way. I hope they can get to you through the U.S. Mail.
Show Biz Kids=======Melrose Place
Black Friday========The ABC Friday Night Line Up
Does anyone here think that Walter might do some singing on the new Dan CD? Jack of Speed sounded damn good with Walter doing the VOX, but I'm thinking that Donald will probably do all the singing on the new album. And man, I'm looking forward to finding out the answer!
m.e.
On Japanese CS TV, Super Channel may program 'In Concert - NY R&S Review' by tomorrow, in fact March 26, 0:00.
My wife took half of the show yesterday night. This is not a original Dr. John hosted version, but 4 live songs is featured. Half of the show is mixed with Richard Thompson and Genesis.
Worth to tape this!!!
Good luck budy
MAS
On Japanese CS TV, Super Channel may program 'In Concert - NY R&S Review' by tomorrow, in fact March 26, 0:00.
My wife took video half of the show yesterday night. This is not a original Dr. John hosted version, but 4 live songs are featured. Half of the show is mixed with Richard Thompson and Genesis.
Worth to tape this!!!
Good luck budy
MAS
oleander: Way cool. Tell your bud to check out the scene at the 12th Street Bar. A small spot, but a hip one. I've been known to "frequent" the place, but some people would say that I live there. Some people call me the Mayor of 12th Street.
Anyway, gently encourage your bud to look for "the bald-headed kid" when they go in. He (me) is very Dan-friendly. I hope we get to meet soon.
"Babylon Sisters"================> Baywatch
Went to see Chick Corea's Bud Powell thang last Thursday and struck up a conversation w/the guy next to me re: when we first became interested in Jazz. His response (without any prior mention of the boys)? He felt listening to his sister's Steely Dan records at age 11 began steering him that way...
Bo-DAY-shus Scow-gurrl: Re:CC&F, Incredible musicians, they did 'Tones for Joan's Bones', which I never thought I'd see Corea do live...at times they took it way (WAY) out, Roy Haynes=Deity, what was your experience?
Beast:I'm all over this, details? Thanks agian for the reading materials...
Majjjjor:
Syndicated/Jurassic Dept.:
Dallas====um,====Dallas
Gilligan's Island====Sail the Waterway
Lassie====Dog Eat Dog
mW
Pete F - Nice soundbytes. I'd like to know where you got that Dias
song from. Have
any more? I still have never heard Apogee, been trying to get my
hands on that for years. What's up with Our Lawn? I
actually have a DAT
of that one from '93, is yours a soundboard or audience recording?
Don't forget - Our lawn is dying but our guestbook is dead!
How about Rockolga and Drew Zinggg on With a Gun? My memory of Tedde
being as good as I thought he was, is fading.
Pissboy:
Come out, come out. Wherever you are!
R.O.C.K
Excellent sound bites indeed Pete! Thanks much! And yeah, anymore
of that Dias stuff?
More Dan literati...
So where did Donald cop his idea for that Steam Power 10 Kamakiri
vehicular thingy? I'll leave that up to all of you but know this... It has been well
established that both Mr. Fagen and one Mr. William Gibson are
members of a rather elite mutual admiration society. To wit, Don quotes
Gibson and Gibson quotes Don in their respective mediums. Gibsons
1991 novel "The Difference Engine" features a steam powered mechanical
computer... Coincidence? I think not!
As has been discussed, Gibson's 1996 "Idoru" features a chapter entitled
"Here At The Western World" and his influencial "Neuromancer" features
a bar called "The Gentleman Loser"... If ya wanna read more, why not
jack in right now...
Laters,
Joe
OLEANDER; I thought so, but what is a chimp?
The Strapping...
Donīt rush! I know, I know! A schimpanzee!
My 14 year old son is writing a term paper on Steely Dan for his English class. (He selected the subject, not me.) As part of the assignment, he had to include a short audio example of one of the artists' works. When he asked me if I had any suggestions, it occured to me that you could pretty much pull any of their studio numbers at random and get a great example of Steely Dan's artistry. I did suggest that he eliminate the ones that Donald Fagen didn't sing and don't use the one that might make school teachers sound kinky (EGTTM), but aside from those, I don't think they've made a single cut that you couldn't proudly present to a non-danophile.
He chose "Any Major Dude".
Idly, RS
CLAS: Hi, strapping moody bastard! I was playing the new hit by THE MORONS and the kids thought it was Steely Dan. REALLY. Also, my daughter thinks the guitar player is very easy on the eyes. I think she has a crush. Anyway, you've got 11 Swedish thanks coming to ya.
BTW,what do you think of Jesper Parnevik? Is he a typical Nordic?
RubyBaby
Only A Fool Would Say That = Monday Night Football
If you've been reading the Dandom Digest lately, you know there's essay contests out there on the albums: i finally have my submission.
i could be interested in feedback, providing you have time to e-mail after waiting for the entire project to download on yer screen.....
rudy
haven't been reading the digest... what's with this concert? can somebody give me some info?
amanda
um, i meant contest, not concert. oops.
amanda
Not giving up the ghost yet. I was listening to the '93
St. Louis concert last night. ...and have to say that
quite a few of the numbers compared favorably with
NYR&SR: the instrumental medley of Royal Scam/Bad Sneakers/Aja, IGY, Book of Liars, Green Flower Street, Countermoon/Teahouse medley, and the magnificent Home at Last not to mention Chain Lightning. Chain Lightning makes for a nice comparison as the arrangements are similar to NYR&SR. At least part of the sound difference large # of
'94 recordings. Replacing Wadenius for Zingg and Chambers for Erskine could have had a large impact on the chemistry and sound. Can anyone comment who say BOTH the '93 and '94 tours? Is anybody out there? Certainly, operation of the soundboard and mixing are critical. But, I'm still unconvinced that a soundboard recording eliminates completely the effects of the venue. I'm still waiting for technical details
Add Hey 19 to that list: I prefer it to the original
Hello people...
How have you all been???
Yes, I have been away for 2 weeks. Reason! My wife and I have just become parents. A cool daughter, Chloe. Born Sunday, March 16 at 6.45 GMT.
She has no problem with cooling out to the Dan sound; she got enough of it while she was inside my wife anyway! She sits in her little bouncy chair and is permanently cool. To all those of yo with no kids yet, do it. she was born on her due day and my dad, who is in the guitar biz, said that her timing indicates good musicality. Cool heh.
any way
Roy scam, a tosser is an english term applied to people he absorb themselves in an abundance of self stimulation. need I say more. do I find out what geritol is now?
Clas. e-mail will be with you shortly!...
Oh, I e-mailed DF & WB a few weeks back; for a bit of idol-worship. i asked them if they could send me an Art Crimes baseball cap, very politely, but I have a feeling that they thought I was taking the piss... do you think I pushed my luck. i queued for ages at Wembley but they sold out..
laters pretzel parents.
...and speaking of birthdays - yours truly is tomorrow (like anyone cares), but SFKnight, did you know that Sarah Vaughn's B'day is tomorrow as well?
Someone recently told me that all of the great jazz singers (Ella, Sarah, Billie, etc) were all born within a month of each other. I'm not sure as to the validity of that remark.
So, Chloe, you Pisces cusp kid, YOU - are in good company.
And SFKnight - supreme CONGRATULATIONS! dude, er, dad.
YGK
Gotta concur with Dr. Mu on the St. Louis '93 stuff. The energy
level and overall sound quality are superior to AIA. As to the
technical reasons for this? Well, IMHO special care was simply not taken to
preserve the band-width and transient response of each performance. I
also suspect that some toast decided to run the master through some
bogus, newfangled DBX machine at the last minute! Or, maybe I'm just
not observing the R.I.A.A. curves properly... Who knows?
One things for sure, it's definitely not the bizarre mentations of
Roger Nichols at the soundboard that leaves AIA wanting. He is directly
responsible for the excellent sound quality of the St. Louis '93
stuff. Jeezus, he's tweaking and editing in real time!
Like any great live recording, St. Louis '93 contains all of the
blemishes and excitement of the actual event. Imagine how different
"Filmore East" would be without Barry Oakley's early bass line over Duane
Allmans solo on "One Way Out"? Or Zappa's flubbed intro on "You Can't
Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol. 6"... Let's try that again...
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love AIA. "Green Earrings",
"Reelin'" and "Third World Man" (that Zingg solo just breaks
your heart every time) are all magnificent. But I do prefer NYR&SR and
St. Louis '93...
Goodnight Austin Texas wherever you are!
Joe
Musical Question for anyone...
In the very beginning of Black Cow, it seems to me that the drummer, Paul Humphrey speeds up the tempo just a wee bit about 4 bars before the vocals come in - listen to the hi hat in the first 4 bars of the intro (and check out the errant guitar note in bar 2).
Does anyone else feel the push in the intro?
---------------------------going mildly insane----------------------
YGK
Joe Murtha - I was wondering why you are giving Roger
Nichols credit for the sound of the live shows. From my
understanding, Roger was on the stage mixing the sound for the
monitors, which has nothing to do with the house sound. So unless
you were a member of the band, you've never heard a live mix by
"The Immortal".
It's about 10pm here, so it's about 1am there, so I can rightly say,
**********************HAPPY BIRTHDAY,MALCOLM!!!**********************
ruby
SFKnight: I'm so happy for you! And I think Chloe is such a cute name!!
ruby
I think it spells chimpanzee...
I saw Jackson Browne and David Lindley the other night. Wow! Is Jackson cool or is he cool? He WALKED from the Hotel to the gig, and a stupid fellow tried to sell tickets to the show to him!
(I guess he helped them roadies rollīem cases out and lift them amps after the show)
Amen.
(This is NOT anti US-propaganda!)
OLEANDER, is it hard to understand my postings? If you are interested what they are about, donīt be afraid to ask. Anytime.
SAN FRAN; Gratulations!!! Now you know what to do the next 18-19 years.
RUBYHONEYCOMB; Yeah, I guess The Morons has some inspirations from the real thing. She got a crush? Hmm...
I guess Jesper is a typicall swede. I donīt know much about him. But his father is a great comedian, very funny. He used to do fakecalls and pretend to be someone else. Once he called Dean Martins manager and acted like a real swedish moron... I guess I got some inspirations from that call... "I can arrange so he can meet the swedish king, the swedish king has not very much to say to about here in sweden anymore so..."
Did the Mad Dog Surrender?
Clas
i don't know that anyone really cares, but i just bought the new ben folds five cd, "whatever and ever amen," and it is truly excellent. i highly recommend it.
amanda
I agree that the sound quality of St. Louis ' 94(sp (really '93)) is as good as AIA, but I think the NYR+SR is the sonically superior recording. Every song on it sounds crisp and clean, like the band is jamming in your living room. I still believe that the venues may be largely responsible for the sound quality difference. Indoor vs. Outdoor...Theater vs. Custerdome.
O.K., now the question is, "How can some small bootleg company out of Italy take a soundboard tape of 1 show and create a recording that is- as good, if not better than AIA?
AIA should be the better recording when you consider: They...
1.-had access to better mixdown equipment...
2.-had the luxury of selecting the very best tracks from over 50 shows 3.-were able to re-record vocals and music later on in a studio setting...
To the new Dad: Way to go! Doesn't Donald sing "Not my Chloe" at
the end of "Tomorrow's Girls"? Inspiration???
m.e.
I happened to have the Magazine EQ here at work, -94, issue ten. Itīs with the Walter Becker PowerBook Interview.
In an article Roger Nichols writes about the, at the time, new mixerboard Yamahaīs ProMix 01. He says that he bought four of them to the Steely tour (must have been the -93 tour).
And Donald is using a ProMix in his studio right alongside his Flying Faders automation to further automate effects return.
Is that any help Doctor Mu?
Clas: How was the Jackson Browne/David Lindley show? Haven't heard much from Lindley lately. Are you familiar with any of his solo stuff? El-Rayo-X? Is it just my imagination or are your posts just a little less tense as of late. Now if we could just encourage a few others to do the same... (My compliments on the dramatic improvement in your english since you started posting here.)
YGK: OK. You've mentioned it at least twice so here you have it. Happy Birthday. Do you notice that birthdays seem to come closer together as you get older?
Kinky: You complained that people ignore Dan related postings so I'll direct this question to you since it was roundly ignored the first time I asked: is there any info, substantiated or not, about a new album?
San Fran: Congrats. Kids are great. Easter Eggs in a couple of years.
Reference in the most recent Scott Turow book, "The Laws of Our Fathers", to "Hey Nineteen". Specifically to the line "the Cuervo Gold, the fine Colombian, make tonight a wonderful thing". No doubt that he (along with most of us who were able to listen to the song in context in the 70's) knows "the fine Colombian" is _not_ an alcoholic beverage. Can't recommend the book-a chore to read.
Where do all these boots come from? How does one acquire them if they don't have others to trade?
I think it's unlikely that any of the live recordings (legit ones, not the Walkman-In-Pocket genre) rely exclusively on either the live sound from the venue or the feeds from the board. More likely it's a combination of both.
Edd
Johnboy: What city are you in? Yes, time speeds up as you get older, which produces a sense of urgency to live/work/enjoy the ever present NOW. Thanx for the wishes - Dat was sweet Rube.
YGK
Not having been a member of the band, I guess I've never heard
a live mix by "The Immortal"... So, Herr Kinky one... Do tell,
in your infinite knowledge, who DID mix the St. Louis '93
soundboard?
Maybe Swami Pete can shed some light?
Thanks in advance,
Joe
Clas: since you claim to be a Joni fan, allow me to quote what she had to say to your pal Cool Guy Jackson: "Your charitable acts seem out of place/with the beauty/with your fistmarks on her face/"
With a gun. With a gun. You will be what you are just the same. Did you take the other man with the piece in your hand and leave him lyin' in the rain.
My recollection of Rockola at LBB is very fresh.
...you hide in the bushes murder the man with Ruger (or Luger) in hand.... (solo Zingg)...
maj.
Hey LH: what's up with you??
JohnnyBoy - Unless I was operating the DanCam or something, I
wouldn't know.
JGMurtha - I couldn't tell you that either, but it wasn't Roger.
I guess I'm having a bad day
Major: Wasn't it "did you PAY the other man with the piece in your hand"?
I always heard it that way.
And yes, I still have fond recollections of Rockola at LBB - "Hey, don't spill your beer on me, please!"
ygk
SFKnight: Congratulations on the arrival of Miss Chloe. Be patient, my son didn't become a Danfan till he was 13 (when he was 8, he called them steely dork). Now he uses "PrtzlLgc" as his internet handle.
Thanks for the explanation of the term 'tosser'. In the words of Woody Allen, "Now you're making fun of my hobbies."
Geritol is a brand name for a remedy for iron deficiency. The Geritol company used to sponsor a number of shows aimed at the chronologically challenged (old). Shows like Lawrence Welk, Ted Mack, & Arthur Godfrey. I haven't used the stuff yet; I think it's made out of used Volvo parts (sorry Clas).
Rhetorical question about "Trans Island Skyway": Did he get rid of the girl he picked up at the car wreck before he visited his dad? Was it "C'mon Daddy! jump in. Look what I brought you."
Happy child rearing, RS
Dave Kob of Clair Bros. did the house mixing for the 'tour. The monitors were mixed by Ed Dracoules.
Roger provided mixes only for Donald, Walter, and Warren. Into this mix he injected a touch of reverb, and the outputs of 2 Shure mics set up on either side of the stage.
Edd
Bizarre HTML glitch...
My entry above refers to the 1993 tour. Use of an apostrophe obliterated the date in the first sentence.
Edd
Roy: The TIS timeline always intrigued me, too. My thoughts are that Donald did the nasty with Miss Snakehips at a Motel 6 along the trail, then snuck out in the middle of the night while she was still asleep and ditched her before going home to see Dad. I think the Kamakiriad was a two seater, and unless Miss Snakehips was going to sit on Daddy's lap, and it could be embarrasing should Daddy get a boner or something.
Flocko
Clas, Edd, JoeM, m.e., Kinky: Thanks for your input. I have this feeling some tweaking could have gone on, when putting the AiA CD together, which was designed the
soundscape of each song similar, despite the original performances in different venues, probably with some different equipment, and different bands. Hypothetical: Would this make the identity of that engineer a filter feeder (i.e., large aquatic mammal feeding on plankton other small oceanic plantlife)?
.
For any Jobim/Dan fans out there...
Check out the newly released CD featuring one of our favorite Dan
keyboardists, John Beasley... It's yet ANOTHER Antonio Carlos Jobim
tribute album entitled "A Twist of Jobim"... Also featured are Herbie
Hancock and former Dan contributor Lee Ritenour, among others...
At least we know what Bease has been up to lately!
Bob Tedde: Thanks for the info on the '93 tour mixing duties.
Joe
Sorry guys... Bob Tedde = Edd Cote
Joe
Pay, take.... what's the fucking difference, unless of course, you're a white male between 18 and 24 living in San Diego.
maj.
Thanks for all of the post cards everyone. WE WON! Very cool card, Georgio. Nice work. Ruby! Six in one day! Thanks Amanda--How's Texas? Ruby--No I hadn't played Nightfly for the kids until you mentioned it and I happened to have the tape with me. IGY mellowed them out during snack time, but Green Flower Street had a lot of them up boogying around. It was great. Good suggestion. Readin', Writin', and Steely Dan...
miner WHErald--I'm going to CC&F this Sat. Your comments
re: T4JB have got me eggstra egg-cited!
SFK--a huge congrats! Chloe is a beautiful name!
YGK--Happy Birthday, you old buzzard!
BC
Getting ready to take off for the beach, rugrats in tow...Anyone been to Edisto beach in SC? Great place to hang.
SFK--mazel tov! Like Clas says, you guys'll be tied up for a while now--in the best way you ever could be.
Speaking of--Clas--chill; I'm half-joking. Your posts are fun & your English is getting better all the time. Wish I spoke some Swedish.
YGK--the bald guy, huh? OK, will do. BTW, HBTY!
Yes, I noticed the several Gibson refs to SD, and they made me grin. Nice when two things you're nuts about interlace. Neuromancer was incredible.
BTW, when I mentioned my 19-y.o. son, I'm actually only 27: I have progeria (a disease made famous by Blade Runner)--matured very young, had my kids by 8. Then, by a miracle of modern science my aging process was arrested and I will be eternally 27.
Mr. Stewart--congrats. Should I choose to continue to believe that you're really an elementary school teacher? Maybe it's hard because I never had one so hip--anemic or not. Maybe you should skip the land of the midnight cruiser, I mean sun, and come hang on the South Carolina beach instead.
Aloha y'all...........
IF:
Knowledge is Power
Time is Money and as every engineer knows,
Power is Work over Time.
So, substituting algebraic equations for these time worn bit of wisdom,we get:
K = P (1)
T = M (2)
P = W/T (3)
Now, do a few simple substitutions:
Put W/T in for P in equation (1), which yields:
K = W/T (4)
Put M in for T into equation (4), which yields:
K = W/M (5).
Now we've got something. Expanding back into English, we get:
Knowledge equals Work over Money.
What this MEANS is that:
1. The More You Know, the More Work You Do, and
2. The More You Know, the Less Money You make.
Solving for Money, we get:
M = W/K (6)
Money equals Work Over Knowledge.
From equation (6) we see that Money approaches infinity as Knowledge
approaches 0, regardless of the Work done.
What THIS MEANS is:
The More you Make, the Less you Know.
Solving for Work, we get
W = M x K (7)
Work equals Money times Knowledge
From equation (7) we see that Work approaches 0 as Knowledge approaches 0.
What THIS MEANS is:
The rich do little or no work.
Working out the socioeconomic implications of this breakthrough is
left as an exercise for the reader.
(passed on from an engineer)
Dr.Mu: I dispute Equation (6). My knowledge is practically zero and I make nowhere near infinity. In fact, as my knowledge assymptotically approaches zero, the slope of my money appears to be negative. Maybe I need to apply the T/M factor (which makes Time out of Mind).
Flocko: Thanks for the insight on TIS. I'm a Dad and I doubt that I would be embarassed by the scenario you described, but if it really started to bother me, I could just tell Junior to drive into the next song and let the Countermoon take care of it.
Slick with tears, RS
Congrat's SF Knight.
Has anyone heard any Warren B. piano cd's? Anything on them like the ditty he played at intermission of the concerts? All instramentals? Any info would be appreciated.
Roy Scam:
Yeah, the limitations to any mathematical derivation is inversely related to the validity of the assumptions. I'm in a quandry as the slope of my salary in relation to time approaches 0. So when time is a key factor, I can't relate my $ to anything! Get back to me after you test the TOoM factor.
limitations to = limitation of
amanda: I, too, just purchased the new Ben Folds Five cd (I'd heard some of it, but I bought it after I read that you had it and liked it) and it's amazing. I love it. I guess I'm partial to it also because I love the piano and I play it myself. But I'm pretty sure DanFans would go for it because it's different, it's got a touch of the 70's sound, and unlike most of the new stuff coming out these days by younger musicians, it isn't total crap. You guys check it out.
i guess we share taste as well as a name. kinda funny.
home for the weekend
queenie
Attention Dan-heads: I, being of NYC locale, and having a few "friends" in the industry, have news of great import. You may notice that I don't normally post on a Saturday, but now, I must.
So, strap on your toys, and here we go:
Gary Katz and Donald Fagen had a falling out.
Apparently, Fagen bought out Katz' share of River Sound, and dismissed the staff.
Katz wanted to keep the studio going, despite their differences, but Donald wanted it for himself.
Huge news - I'm not sure how this affects the new album, although I'm sure it has severe ramifications.
For better or for worse - this is what we know now.
Ruby Baby - thanx for the B-day card - what a surprise! Which one of the girls on the cover do you look like? And how are the home fires burning? -wink-;-)
OK Dan-kids - don't shoot the messenger - all of this in peace, love and harmon,y and of course, THE DAN.
YGK
Attention Dan-heads: I, being of NYC locale, and having a few "friends" in the industry, have news of great import. You may notice that I don't normally post on a Saturday, but now, I must.
So, strap on your toys, and here we go:
Gary Katz and Donald Fagen had a falling out.
Apparently, Fagen bought out Katz' share of River Sound, and dismissed the staff.
Katz wanted to keep the studio going, despite their differences, but Donald wanted it for himself.
Huge news - I'm not sure how this affects the new album, although I'm sure it has severe ramifications.
For better or for worse - this is what we know now.
Ruby Baby - thanx for the B-day card - what a surprise! Which one of the girls on the cover do you look like? And how are the home fires burning? -wink-;-)
OK Dan-kids - don't shoot the messenger - all of this in peace, love and harmon,y and of course, THE DAN.
YGK
news - more on monday: Fagen and Katz broke up.
Fagen bought the studio - River sound.
could delay the album.
Walter - man, fill us in, babe.
maybe you'll have to cut another album by yourself.
YGK
A falling out you say? Hmmm....
Just added another dozen links to the Cool Links page. Go ahead, waste another couple of hours....
As always look for the "NEW" symbol next to the link.
Peace, YGK: Not really the sort of info I hoped for when I asked if any one had heard anything.
Have a rare lp - Bent Over Backwards, outtakes from the Katy Lied recording sessions featuring some awesome guitarwork that never made the final edit. Found in my mom's closet after some fifteen years of hibernation. Looking to pass this treasure on to a deserving fellow cynic and connoisseur.
Let's not make too much out of the Katz/Fagen deal. Remember that Gary really hasn't had anything to do with Steely Dan since the mid-80s or so. So if Donald now owns River Sound by himself, that just means he doesn't have to bother dealing with Gary when booking sessions for the studio. Might even make things easier for SD to finish up their new album. They're probably doing most of the recording in Hawaii anyway. The only negative I can think of, is probably Donald wouldn't be making any more guest appearances on Katz-produced albums for other people, which is no big deal.
YGK: Did Fagen or Katz fire the staff? Sounds like Fagen's out of the studio business, unless he's going to bring in a new staff. I wonder if Roger Nichols might want to move to Manhattan?
it is finished
Wow, a spat...
SFKnight: Chloe. Did you cry? Such a wonderful gift!
MuMan: The StL board dub -- very exciting stuff. What got me was how
my first listen to it zapped me back to the CHI show. Those opening
chords and percussive strokes of the medley stung me, and still do.
(((((woo!))))) I don't feel qualified to pass judgement on which
performance is better(NYRnSR, AIA, or StL), I enjoy each for different
reasons.
johnboy: This whole make a $M on dubs thing makes me ill!!! I've
quietly inquired here how a guy/gal could get a hold of some stuff
(e.g., RE: the video), but it no avail. Oh well... wanna dub of the
StL show? E me for my address and details.
Bob=Edd: Thanks for the info, that board arrangement makes a lot of
sense.
queenie/Amanda: That BF5 CD is all the rage about campus. I sampled
a couple cuts while browsing the bead shop -- aye, clean.
Hey, is that Hiram Bullock playin' lead on Barbara Mandrell's "If
Lovin' You Is Wrong?" hmm.
Arizona is real. No wonder the Big Hole annually tops the international visitation list! Sedona rocks - duh! Also, the Vegas
run was excellent -- walked away a winner. The Organ Pipe Cactus
Nat'l. Mon. is outer-worldly. Danger is real.
"...the smell of prickly pear"
CONGRATULATIONS ARIZONA HOOPSTERS!!! INDY AWAITS A #4 SEED!
WILDCATS or GOLDEN GOPHERS???
"Crashin' the backboards, he's Jungle Jim"
PETE! I've been frantically searching for my copys o' the LBB shows on the chance you were seriouse about uploading it. I remember being somewhat relieved that Drew was going to take on the guitar solos so I could concentrate on the lead vocal. I guess if you think it sounds good, you have my blessing. Any chance JC would have time to send me copies of our imfamous weekend?
DrMu: In the end , the love you make is inversely proportional to the shit you take.
Kato:
Have you seen their site? If there had been another 6 bodies, would they have been known as a Cult 45?
Dr. Mu: I never thought of it that way.
SF Knight: Congratulations on new Princess Chloe!
YGK: Re: The Split: Interesting, if true. Pearl made a good point above.
Earthbound: Monday night, my money's on the Wildcats.
StAl: Checked the new links -- Tomas Broberg's *is* good. And if you want to hear a MIDI version of The Second Arrangement, his is the one site to visit.
Ruby Baby,
I address this to you, because, in many ways, you've become my defacto sounding board, when I need to chime in to the Dan world.
Got an email from my little bro, he's 31, divorced with a 10 yr old son. When I was 16, and he was 9, I turned him on to the newly released Katy Lied. From then on, he seemed to have a better understanding of classic rock, as it was being made. When I took to the Bee Gees, attracted to the string lines that kept many a hollywood musician in money, and me on the dance floors and in the beds of spandex clad big haired females, he never diverted, listening to Aerosmith, Molly Hatchet, Leonard Skinnard, Dan, etc. Anyway, not to wax to philosophically, I received and email from him tonight, telling me that he was going to a KISS concert! I replied to him that I had gone to 2 KISS concerts in 1973 and 1974. This is where I really began to trip.
This fertile guest book is filled with people like myself that discuss music that was, for the most part, written over 20 years ago. When I finally bought a CD player 9 years ago, I filled my CD collection with Steely Dan, Elton John, Supertramp, Chicago, Pink Floyd, etc. Retrospectively, 85 - 90 percent of my collection is pre 1980.
Bottom line: Who is writing music today that I would listen to in 2017?!? It scares me to think that 20 years from now, the only music that will be worth discussing will be that which was written 40 years prior!
Jesus, I hate Celine Dion!!!
Waiting for the coordinates of Ruby Baby Comet, hoping that the leader will allow me to shed my husk with jewels intact . . .
eric
Eric: Allow me to answer your question about who will be considered "valid" in the year 2017....
Peter Gabriel, Dave Matthews Band, Walter Becker and Donald Fagen, Cowboy Junkies (Michael Timmons is a fabulous songwriter), Counting Crows (Adam Duritz is getting better with age), REM, Pearl Jam (say what you will about Eddie Vedder. If you don't get it your too old), Neil Young is writting some of his best stuff, Tom Petty, John Mellencamp, Los Lobos, Sting (not a fan but I recognize his talent), Lyle Lovett, Bruce Hornsby, Phish (mark my words on this one), John Hiatt, Soundgarden, etc, etc.
Ok, so what is "valid". Is it amount of records sold? Is it household name? If so, my mother knows who Pearl Jam and is. She hasn't a CLUE who Supertramp is and I haven't lived with her since Breakfast in America (give or take a year) was popular.
You are correct. Most of us on this GB talk about those bands you mention. Steely Dan is one of my all time FAVORITE bands, but BOY HOWDY ther's a ton of GREAT new music out there. I'll tell you another thing. There is one person on your list that you must take off. This is due to the fact that he hasn't put out anything worth a shit since "Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player".....
Chew on this. Your attitude is akin to what my Grandfather used to say... "Patrick! There hasn't been ANY good music since the days of Glen Miller"
It's all a matter of perspective.
Peace, PS. KISS alway has, and always will, SUCK MY WANG.
Eric: Let me add a few to St Al's list: Clapton, Van Morrison, U2 (even though IMHO the new album sucks. Just like disco music did and still does.), Metheny, Knoppfler, Beck, and a more than a few I'm I haven't thought about. Also some big, but as yet unrealised, potential: Paula Cole, Blues Traveler, Ben Folds Five, Me'Shell Ndegeocello, Keb Mo'...the list is too long to type.
St. Al: What's with the dick thing on this board?
Earthbound. Thanks. Will e-mail you in the next couple of days.
YGK/Pearl: I go away from here for a week or so and wouldn't you know, some significant events develop down at River Sound. I do think that Pearl has an interesting observation, however - we'll see what happens.
SF Knight: Congratulations for (NotMy??) Chloe! May your new life bring you great joy!
Speaking of new additions, time for me to check out the new stuff on StAl's page.
Later, Beautiful Survivor
My sons are reading over my shoulder and are pissed that no one has mentioned Smashing Pumpkins (actually Billy Corgan). I'm inclined to share their indignancy, in light of the fact that the last few entries have mentioned Barbara Mandrell, Kiss, and Celine Dion: is this the guest book or rock and roll hell? What next , Michael Bolton, Kenny G.?
It's a Steely kinda couple of weeks in NYC...
Featured in the jazz clubs are:
The Tom Scott Quartet, otherwise known as Tom Scott and the L.A.
Express. I still think Tom's horn chart on the "Black Cow" outro
is the single greatest horn chart in pop music history (but I'm
of course biased)... They're at "The Iridium" Tuesday through Sunday.
Dan trumpet player extarordinaire Randy Brecker will be appearing
at "The Blue Note" in NYC next week...
Joe
no post's today...and with YGK's news? I'm reading Pearls's Post ove and over...Edd, I hope
statment doesn't apply here!
.."I've got plenty of legit releases, and bootlegs too - but I feel like cryin'
-I wish I had a heart like ice, a heart like ice"...Where's the paper
Perhaps the donoughts were stale? eh, Kinkster?
Where's the paper BAG?
When will Steely dan come to Europe and Sweden?
I will se you.
Just some highly speculative anechdotal nonsense on my part but, what
the hell;
D'ya think Tom Scott's and Randy Brecker's appearences in NYC this
week coupled with Don's "falling out" with Gary Katz over at River Sound,
etc. may all be related to the new Dan album? I mean, there are an
awful lot of past and present Dan types congregated in NYC right now...
This combination of events is quite intriguing IMHO.
There does seem to be a correlation between NYC club dates by a
particular musician and a guest appearance by that musician on some
new release. Recently, Metheny's appearance at "The Knitting Factory"
with Derek Bailey coincided with the recording dates on the new
Charlie Haden release "Beyond The Missouri Sky", which Metheny guested
on.
In an on-line interview back in March of '96, Tom Scott mentioned that he
was flying out to Hawaii to meet with Walter to discuss some future
recording prospects... Now, although that interview was over a year
ago, that's nothing in Steely Dan time.
Joe
mWorld - Chick Corea's Bud Powell thang swings into town this week at
"The Blue Note" in NYC... What a friggin' lineup!
Jarrett fans: Jarrett/DeJohnette/Peacock at Avery Fisher Hall in NYC.
Joe M: I saw a Jarrett trio at Avery Fisher some years back - 1989?
The hall doesn't support a trio well - the drums sounded loud and ugly like he was playing a cardboard box, and you couldn't hear Jarretts 'vocals' - a disappointing show - couldn't even hear Peacock.
Your theory as to the musicians related to the Dan is an intersting one - perhaps Pete Fogel can shed some light on it. He seems to be in some helluva loop with regards to the Dan.
Of lighter (actually, heavier) note I was introduced to a recording which I think was recently released, despite its being recorded in the 60's. Anyway, if you love horns, and can tolerate what was the beginning of free jazz, check out "Mingus - Antibes 60". Not a lot of dissonance - tho some - but incredible performances from everyone involved - Eric Dolphy, Bud Powell, Mingus, Dennie Richmond, and a few others I can't recall. The best music I've heard in a while, besides AJA - although it's different. They tawk too ya! Wowski!
YGK
JGMurtha - Thanks for your posts, they're the only things that make
me want to
reply anymore. As for your theory on SD musicians in NYC
being some sort of "sign"...they're in town every week. If your
theory was correct, there would be 35 Steely Dan albums out already
this year. In fact, it's rare if some of these players aren't in
town in a given week, this is NYC afterall. Besides, the Breckers or
any of the others you've mentioned haven't played a note on a
SD/Becker/Fagen album in 15 years. What makes you so sure the new
album will be different from Kamakiriad or 11TOW?
And what do the changes at River Sound have to do with any of this?
Oh, and your Pat Metheny idea is absurd. So, he played with Derek
Bailey and showed up on a release by Charlie Haden...so what? Metheny
plays in Manhattan all the time and is a guest on countless other
albums. Larry Carlton's going to be at the Blue Note in July, does
this mean he's going to be on the new Steely Dan album, or maybe a
Crusaders album, or Michael Franks, or Joni Mitchell, or maybe he
just wants to do a show. Get my point? Joe, your imagination is running
wild...wishful thinking tho'.
"Make a deal with romance, while the dollar stands a chance..."
hankAg: How 'bout that line-up? Wildcats v. Wildcats.
Wonder which species has sharper fangs?
Roy: I wondered if someone would respond to a Mandrell
mention -- FYI, the lead I heard on that obscure cut fuckin' smoked,
and the emphasis was meant to be on Bullock. Anyway...
johnboy: standing by.
da: hey sister, how does that desert bloom?
Kinkster,
I have new the issue of Saxophonist Magazine and they have an interview with Tom Scott who said that he will be doing the horn arrangements for the upcoming Steely Dan album. I'm really excited since he did such a great job on Aja. Maybe Donald & Walter are having second thoughts on going with no-names like Wadenius and Zingg and might start using brand name musicians again.
How can one possibly wonder "what's with the dick thing" on this board? It's a freakin' Steely Dan guestbook, you dildo-head!!
Heard "Countermoon" as I rolled into the Wendy's in Moorestown NJ for lunch today.
Kama has to be the best "test drive" disk of all time. Check this out:
Lucky Henry and I hooked up Saturday morning at Daddypop's for breakfast and a pre-car buying strategy session. I had already selected Kama for the test drive knowing that the 97 Nissan Pathfinder had a cd player as standard equipment (But no tape player!! What about listening to the boots??) The salesman handed me the keys and away we went in this cool rolling bubble. We hit the highway and off-road giving the truck the once-over-twice while crusing about a thousand miles an hour. We got a little silly ;> then headed back to the dealer for the negotiations. Lucky ran interference when he sensed that I was getting annoyed by the salesman's lack of appreciation for our tight schedule. After all, I came to jam out on Josie and Chain.
After a few hours, we walked out with a new Pathfinder, substantially below dealer invoice, and headed down the avenue like we owned the street.
I highly recommend Kama to pump you up into a "take no prisoners" frenzy when you go buy your next car.
laters...
maj.
Playing: To quote Marvelous Marv: YYYEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!
Perhaps it was time to come back to NYC to "clean up" the recordings made in Hawaii? and Fagen wanted free run of his own studio... and when Katz balked, DF cleared the bases...
maj: no tape player???? What about the boots?
hey earthbound... the desert's beautiful now... blooming all over the place, but mid 80s is too hot for this early in the year... the summer's creeping up.
as for wildcats vs. wildcats, you all know who i'm rooting for...
and about the new album... it's cool to hypothesize but don't get the hopes soaring too high just yet... you'd be setting yourself up for a loooong wait.
amanda
Earthbound: I'm looking forward to hearing the Hiram solo, but I'm greatly in hopes that I won't have to listen to a lot of Barbara M.'s
records. Nothing against country, just never could get my toe to tap for the M sisters. I saw a sort of former Dan member (well not really a member but an important hired hand) , Mark Knopfler, on a video on the Nashville channel; he was jamming, picking, and grinning with Chet Atkins. Best country picking I've heard since "With a Gun". But I guess there's probably about 1351 guitar pickers in Nashville that play twice as better than I will. Sorry, jazz guys, I know it's not cool to talk shitkicker here in birdland.
I just noticed yesterday that the "Jerry Maguire" sound track has the song "Horses", sung by Ricki Lee Jones, co-written and produced by WB. Good song, Would have been a great twelfth stack of whack.
RE the new album: Somebody please tell me we're not setting ourselves up for a dissappointment here. I've now listened to mid 90's new material from the Eagles, the Band, and even the lads from Liverpool. They were all competent but uninspiring. Are we putting too much pressure on them? What are the odds of another Countdown to Ecstacy? Sure, it'll be better than anything recorded by anyone on this planet since 11 SOW; but will it be as good as we demand it to be? Tough chore (dirty work).
Are you an ordinary Guy? , RS
Dr. Mu: you are like, so shit awful funny with this equation stuff. Geez, you must be a genius. Knowledge is power. Whoa. Stand back. Time is money, even deeper. The only rational thought was PPPowerr equals WWwork over TTtimee.
Maybe Power equals the potential to have work performed. For instance, you have knowledge of an embarassing little fact about someone. You could blackmail them into mowing your grass for three weeks. The potential energy of this knowledge would be funneled into a conduit resulting in work over time. Or the person could just shoot your ass in which case this potential energy doesn't perform any work but is simply dissipated thru losses. Huh. I think knowledge is potential energy. What can an obviously self absorbed Dr. Mu do with this? Pprobably nothing as cute as his previous effort.
K=E=e(t), knowledge is a function of time.
K'=E'=e'(t), and if you assume must peoples learning curves are linear, K'=E'=constant, which in Dr. Mu's case would be about 0.25 or his IQ.
Forget the Time is Money stuff, no amount of money can add one day to length of a man's life.
Oh and by the way, 11TOW sucks. I love the Dan but 11TOW proves another time worn adage, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
Paul C
BTW Dr Mu, what takes more energy/work, to walk up a flight of steps taking one at a time or two at a time?
PPP Paul,
You, sir, are a penile wart. 11ToW is brilliant. You are just too much of a testicle to comprehend its greatness. You are too pathetic to even deserve pity. Eat shit and die, you infidel.
I guess I have a hangover this morning, I donīt understand shit what youīre talking about. Well, hell... scrolling down the avenue. Is it only me that donīt understand what mr. YGK is babbling about?
My head feels like a pumpkin. I guess it soon will explode.
JOHNYBOY; The concert with Lindley and Jackson was great. Aucostic guitars and a Yamaha-piano. Funny thing happened; when Jackson started to sing -In the evening when you close your eyes...
he stopped, looked a little confused and said; -Hell, this song begins in the morning. -In the morning, when you close youre eyes...
And Lindley is great on that fiddle and slide. He had red pants aīla 70s.
6000.000; Shit happens and I donīt think Darryl was innocent. I guess she needed the money.
OLEANDER; Thanks, you are growing outside my door.
The Moron
PS. ZAPPA; Oh I am the american dream, and my name is Bobby Brown --------------R.O.C.K.?
Apropos R.O.C.K., how can a square, low IQ, unsensitive guy with no way with words claim he loves Steely Dan? What does he likes about them? The shape of Donald Fagens sunglasses?
The Strapping...
Playing - Saxophonist Magazine? Never heard of that one, must be
for musicians only. Going for brand names isn't a bad idea, afterall,
that's one of the things Steely Dan's famous for. However, I
wouldn't classify Zingg as a no-name, at least since SD showcased
his talents. Come to think of it, I hear his name in conjunction
with Steely Dan a lot more these days than I do Steve Kahn or Dean
Parks, among fans anyway, and isn't that what it's about?
PPPaulCC - You no like 11TOW? Give it a couple more listens, it's
a real Doodlee! It
took a lot of people more than a month to get into. In the
meantime, I'm sure your comments will liven up the dying guestbook.
Knowledge = work over time? Nah, you're right, there's always too
much room to backfire,
you're probably better off checking into some bulletproof cheaters.
I think I have something here. I guess Ive decoded the lyrics of Rose Darling. - The woman who is "sleeping" next to Fagen and wont be disturbed by all steamings sounds of love, SHE IS DEAD! Donald has her ashes in bed, and Rose and mr. Fagen can have a wild sex going on, snake Mary will never wake up!
Am I a genious or what?
I guess I go home now and take care of my hangover.
Audi and out
ruby
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JM
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whining stranger
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rudy
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clas
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clas
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U.S.A. Tue Mar 11 10:08:42 PST 1997
ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝ
moron Tue Mar 11 13:04:54 PST 1997
maj.
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StAlphonzo
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StAl
Reality Checker
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clas
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R.O.C.K in the
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Too Mobile
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Too Mobile
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Too Mobile
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Too Mobile
dobb9528@uidaho.edu Wed Mar 12 22:08:20 PST 1997
johnboy
@ TV Dinner by the Pool Thu Mar 13 03:18:46 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Mar 13 05:45:23 PST 1997
StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com Thu Mar 13 06:37:53 PST 1997
StAl
R.O.C.K in the
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YGK
.. Thu Mar 13 09:05:32 PST 1997
rabbit
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YGK
.. Thu Mar 13 11:18:22 PST 1997
Bill C
Building a Bridge to the 21st Felony Thu Mar 13 11:44:02 PST 1997
ludicrous lytle
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ludicrous lytle
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ludicrous lytle
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Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Thu Mar 13 16:03:16 PST 1997
Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Thu Mar 13 16:47:15 PST 1997
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Brain Tapped
@ Thu Mar 13 20:10:56 PST 1997
Babylon Sister
Babylon Sister Thu Mar 13 20:57:27 PST 1997
ruby
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George
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James
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Mr. Stewart
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rabbit
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JM
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Me Again
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ruby
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mWorld
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Bodacious Cowgirl
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Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Sat Mar 15 09:24:42 PST 1997
Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Sat Mar 15 10:02:28 PST 1997
Mr. Stewart
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bob tedde
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Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Sun Mar 16 08:50:24 PST 1997
Mr. Stewart
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Amanda
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Kinky
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clas
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DrMu
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rabbit
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Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Mon Mar 17 18:46:43 PST 1997
Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Mon Mar 17 18:50:29 PST 1997
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clas
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clas
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R.O.C.K in the
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YourGoldKeith
.. Tue Mar 18 09:51:18 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
.. Tue Mar 18 09:51:34 PST 1997
Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Tue Mar 18 10:30:22 PST 1997
Amanda
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I saw a bumpersticker that says
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YGK
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(Good King)Richard
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Amanda
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clas
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clas
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DrMu
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.. Wed Mar 19 08:19:09 PST 1997
Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Wed Mar 19 09:08:02 PST 1997
Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Wed Mar 19 09:41:53 PST 1997
Kinky
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Amanda
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(Good King) Richard
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THROUGHWITHBUZZ Fri Mar 21 07:20:47 PST 1997
maj.
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Skinny Man in
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The trip we made to Hollywood
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YGK
.. Fri Mar 21 09:32:48 PST 1997
distracted
can_I_watch@dressed_to_kill Fri Mar 21 12:06:31 PST 1997
DrMu
mic e. finn Fri Mar 21 13:11:02 PST 1997
Old dan fan@
Where the hell are the guitars anymore? Fri Mar 21 13:22:38 PST 1997
YGK
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YGK
.. Fri Mar 21 13:40:40 PST 1997
m
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Amanda
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a citizen
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Pete
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oleander
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oleander
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Mr. Stewart
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mWorld
khillman@lightspeed.net Mon Mar 24 11:06:07 PST 1997
Kinky
Letting my Hair Down Mon Mar 24 14:56:04 PST 1997
R.O.C.K in the
U.S.A. Mon Mar 24 15:04:58 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Mon Mar 24 19:51:32 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Mon Mar 24 23:58:40 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Tue Mar 25 02:37:04 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
Whoarethesechildren? Tue Mar 25 09:17:24 PST 1997
ruby
kanga1776@aol.com Tue Mar 25 10:05:16 PST 1997
rudy
stelydan@mindspring.com Tue Mar 25 16:43:44 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Tue Mar 25 18:13:55 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Wed Mar 26 00:58:39 PST 1997
DrMu
surfand/ordie Wed Mar 26 08:06:12 PST 1997
DrMu
meetmeinstlouis Wed Mar 26 08:12:08 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Wed Mar 26 09:49:42 PST 1997
YGK
.. Wed Mar 26 10:09:33 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Wed Mar 26 10:58:59 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
pondering the hi hat on Black Cow... Wed Mar 26 12:30:17 PST 1997
Kinky
paying attention Wed Mar 26 15:54:26 PST 1997
R.
B. Wed Mar 26 21:58:34 PST 1997
R.B.
too Wed Mar 26 22:04:29 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Thu Mar 27 00:14:11 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Thu Mar 27 00:50:39 PST 1997
moray eel
@ those distant lights from across the bay Thu Mar 27 00:52:09 PST 1997
CLAS
@work Thu Mar 27 01:53:35 PST 1997
johnboy, The Prowler in the CIty
@the Edge of the World Thu Mar 27 03:42:30 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Thu Mar 27 05:47:57 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Mar 27 06:25:51 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Thu Mar 27 06:32:38 PST 1997
600,000 Doctors
Friends of Hannah Thu Mar 27 08:01:10 PST 1997
MAJ.
FRONTIER@USCOM.COM Thu Mar 27 08:02:32 PST 1997
Kinky
Having a YGK Kind of Day Thu Mar 27 08:53:27 PST 1997
YGK
pleasedthatmyfriendKinkyshowsuponmyb-day Thu Mar 27 09:19:30 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
theplayroom Thu Mar 27 09:35:56 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Thu Mar 27 10:13:00 PST 1997
Edd
@ooops Thu Mar 27 10:17:26 PST 1997
Flocko
@Florida Room Thu Mar 27 10:18:32 PST 1997
DrMu
beatinginaniongrid Thu Mar 27 12:52:36 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Thu Mar 27 13:08:41 PST 1997
Joe M
Me@again Thu Mar 27 13:11:07 PST 1997
maj.
frontier@uscom.com Thu Mar 27 13:28:09 PST 1997
Mr. Stewart
uminor@customcpu.com Thu Mar 27 16:32:05 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgirl
when Good Friday comes Thu Mar 27 20:03:43 PST 1997
oleander
nearthedunes Fri Mar 28 04:12:17 PST 1997
DrMu
the secret of success Fri Mar 28 09:14:36 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
@standarddeviations Fri Mar 28 09:43:55 PST 1997
Siddhartha
@Play In Kamala's Den Fri Mar 28 09:51:34 PST 1997
DrMu
math = knowledge? Fri Mar 28 10:26:46 PST 1997
DrMu
GCpolice Fri Mar 28 10:29:52 PST 1997
Amanda
THROUGHWITHBUZZ Fri Mar 28 14:43:10 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
.. Sat Mar 29 08:52:01 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
mumusintl@aol.com Sat Mar 29 08:52:54 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
mumusintl@aol.com Sat Mar 29 08:56:23 PST 1997
StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com Sat Mar 29 10:26:22 PST 1997
StAl
johnbouy,flo
@ing along Sat Mar 29 10:34:30 PST 1997
IDLEIDYLL
hiraoka@aloha.net Sat Mar 29 11:41:57 PST 1997
Pearl
still in the quarter Sat Mar 29 11:53:58 PST 1997
Kato
@Heaven's Gate Sat Mar 29 15:40:14 PST 1997
Earthbound
danfan@expert.cc.purdue.edu Sat Mar 29 16:29:52 PST 1997
Earthbound
danfan@expert.cc.purdue.edu Sat Mar 29 16:41:29 PST 1997
BOB TEDDE
MrSQUONK@CTS.COM Sat Mar 29 18:23:25 PST 1997
Level
Above Human Sat Mar 29 19:20:23 PST 1997
Hank Silvers
@ Nervous Time Sat Mar 29 19:52:32 PST 1997
eric
slightlydisturbed - andmoreso! Sat Mar 29 21:28:23 PST 1997
StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com Sat Mar 29 23:52:04 PST 1997
StAl
johnboy
@tempting to make sense of it all Sun Mar 30 03:12:08 PST 1997
Beautiful Survivor
73201.2511@compuserve.com Sun Mar 30 04:13:24 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
felonious omission Sun Mar 30 14:04:28 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Sun Mar 30 20:43:09 PST 1997
DrMu
BlackMonday? Mon Mar 31 09:14:40 PST 1997
DrMu
Where'stheXanax? Mon Mar 31 09:18:58 PST 1997
Johan Öquist
r-oquist@algonet.se Mon Mar 31 09:29:59 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Mon Mar 31 09:33:49 PST 1997
YGK
.. Mon Mar 31 10:22:45 PST 1997
Kinky
Mowing Our Lawn Mon Mar 31 11:39:33 PST 1997
Earthbound
danfan@expert.cc.purdue.edu Mon Mar 31 13:05:49 PST 1997
Playing
Just What I Feel Mon Mar 31 14:28:11 PST 1997
maj.
frontier@uscom.com Mon Mar 31 14:39:39 PST 1997
DrMu
it'sthesmilonmyface Mon Mar 31 15:30:14 PST 1997
Babs
in the U.S.A. Mon Mar 31 15:39:03 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Mon Mar 31 16:08:54 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
here-at-the-countrywesternworld Mon Mar 31 18:30:29 PST 1997
PPPaulCCC
Knoo@at.the.helm Mon Mar 31 19:55:57 PST 1997
11ToW
Fan Mon Mar 31 20:15:33 PST 1997
clas
Down @ the bottom where my demons shows... Mon Mar 31 21:37:51 PST 1997
Clas
clas@work? Mon Mar 31 21:57:43 PST 1997
Kinky
in a sad situation on Elm St Mon Mar 31 22:05:45 PST 1997
clas
Clas @ the corner of the eastern sky Mon Mar 31 22:51:28 PST 1997