Name: Schwinn
Billings
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 23:06:20
Comments:
Slim
Didn't I cause you to endure expensive dental work a few years back? My knuckles still hurt--especially when I have to brake the big bike completely for a custom's check.
That is nothing like the pain and agony you can expect from the flower child you just dissed. But don't expect it right away. Her modus is to peruse the archives and claim anything half original as her own, i.e., equating BFF with Freddie Mercury and Todd Rundgren. Why do those comparisons sound familiar? Pursue the criminal and discover the crime...
The world is full of wannabes who dance in and out of the fray, hungry for an autograph so they can learn to forge it. That's why I keep to the backroads and keep my front wheel turned toward Lisa. She can spot a liar a mile away and still loves me from afar. That's a lot different than sucker-punching a friend when they're not looking.
Tattoo in My Shoe
Schwinn Healey
Name: Secret Asian Man
r@w like sushi
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 22:26:52
Comments:
Anyone: What is the Asian/Steely Dan connection? I noticed that it's a theme used in more than one song.
Oleander: I'd like to take you out sometime. Fishloaf is a long-time favorite of mine.
Signed,
S.A.M.
Name: Slimmy, Born Again Christian
fishloaf
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 21:19:55
Comments:
Oleander: You were once a Bitch with a capital "B" but now you have evolved into a bitch with a tiny frontal consonant. How can I accept a tape from an "erudanite" who doesn't even know the DF/WB connection on Apogee to begin with? Have I really been reading you with interest, "Old Timer"? Somebody slap my face and send me to a time before Hollywood. There's a huge difference between the Writing on the Wall and the Scribbling on the Guest Book. You'll never get it and I don't perform plastic surgery. Hope that record player of yours gets out of the shop soon so you can honor your commitments.
Name: Geena
with a gun
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 20:11:07
Comments:
it's amazing! I just finished reading that article in Rolling Stone and here i am in the GB looking around to see what's going on and we're talking about it! Simply amazing!
I'm so sick and tired of these whiny little spoon-fed kids in the music biz today. They want, want, want and haven't the slightest clue that working hard and maintaning good public relations is the key to get, get, get. This is just one of the many reasons I left that industry a few years ago.
They knew what they were getting into when they signed that contract. They knew they weren't going to make any money by using someone else's music after their record company asked for permission to use "Black Cow". So what the hell are they bitchin' about? And, excuse me...that money did not come out of their pocket. Some stupid little whiny record exec fronted that money for them and now they have to work just a little bit harder to pay it back..poor babies. Oleander is right...they don't have a clue about the Dan...
Sorry for all the kvetching (sp?), but i just had to speak my mind.
File this under "one hit wonders"
Name: oleander
a d&o leer
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 20:03:18
Comments:
Sli-two m's-y--Grovel a little more, you swine. Actually, the turntable is in the shop and due to return soon. I'll be glad to tape it for you and for anyone else who wants it--(now I have to hope that it has weathered the last two decades and several moves intact). To be continued.
Roy--I DO know that this is not the Ben Folds 5 page, but maj just gave us a nice Steely tie-in. This week's "New Yorker" gives them a feature AND pic in "Night Life": "Though there's nothing particularly original about this likable trio from Chapel Hill, its ability to channel 'square' piano-driven pop a la old Billy Joel and Elton John (and, to be fair, Todd Rundgren and Freddie Mercury on their pianocentric classics) and marry it to a post-punk sensibility makes the group stand out from its techno and guitar-powered coevals like a black-and-white thumb. Singer Ben Folds is a major talent: an excellent singer and a songwriter of earthly pain." Oh well. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm (in Carolina)...? My dream of seeing them here is melting away.
As for the whining rappers, couldn't you just see Messrs. F & B up there on the stage with these guys a la Puff Daddy and his puppet Sting? Feh. They just don't have a clue about the Dan.
lisa--I'm consulting the stars...and feeling that itch again....I promise to come if Kinky & YGK arm-wrestle and minah does that thing on the table.
Name: Irving Azoff
Hotel@California.com
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 18:25:13
Comments:
Hey Peter and Lord:
Helpful music biz hint # 1:
If you write your own material, you don't have to pay anyone else for the publishing rights.
Quit your whining or I'm going to sick my boy Tyson on you
Name: Tyrone Skimkins
# 24601
Location: WATTS, CA
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 16:03:14
Comments:
What's wrong with you Donald and Walter? That $105.000 could of went to there crack habit.Shame on you Mr. Steely Dan
Name: sit mutha fucka
Spike said do the right thang
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 15:55:40
Comments:
To Peter (With a) GunzGET RAP JACK AND DO IT AGAIN!!
Name: Rappers blast Becker & Fagen in
new issue of Rolling Stone!
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 15:05:16
Comments:
Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz blast Becker and Fagen in New issue of Rolling Stone:
"Deja Vu" features a sample of Steely Dan's "Black Cow." "It cost $105,000," moans Gunz. Says Tariq (Born Sean Hamilton), "We don't make a dime off that record. They took all the publishing, everything. It's a lack of respect for hip-hop, man. They're amazing musicians, but this turned me off to them. We wanted to go on MTV and have them play, and we would come in with the rap. They won't even write us back. If you have that much of my money, at least call if you don't want to do it."
Name: DINDO OROSA
DKMO0123@MSN.COM
Location: MANILA, PHILIPPINES
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 12:15:24
Comments:
This is just so F....ng great just being here....
Name: Slimy...I mean Slimmy
mustanotagottalotta
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 23:51:36
Comments:
Oleander--please buy a turntable IMMEDIATELY and make me a copy of Apogee! I've been looking for that disc for 5 years! I bought one at a record show in '95 and it was scratched in all the wrong places. Really, all I want is the Becker / Fagen composition, "Rapunzel", but the complete LP would be a gas. I used to play that wax on my Sunday night Jazz show 20 YEARS AGO! (Also Joe Beck, Dixie Dregs, Lenny White, Joe Sample, Steve Kahn, Jeff Lorber Fusion, Stanley Clarke, Al Dimeola, etc., etc., etc.)
Really, just mail me the disc and I'll make my own copy. We can synchronize our watches and I will in turn mail you a cassette copy of ANYTHING you can't find on CD. Really. I have 10,000 albums from all those years as a radio guy and my platter-spinner is one of the best.
Finally--I'm glad we're back on speaking terms. I promise to never "Black Cow" you ever again.
Son of William
Name: oleander
do you wanna take me to
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 20:34:05
Comments:
So yesterday it was "Funkytown" by Lipps Inc. Anyone want to try a night in my id?
Doc Mu et al.--Doc, that's how I see the plot too. But there's something more complicated in there; I just can't figure it out--for example, as Brenda said, who's they? And so what that they saw your face? I link this song thematically with "Dirty Work" and "Razor Boy." Girl trouble and girl troubled. And though I tend to be a wordy yin to Dave88's musical yang, the mesh of lyrics, tune, and arrangement is particularly perfect.
Ruby--I'll keep my eyes open for those shoes. Danmoments--heard YOU at the grocery store the other night.
Slimy--tho' I swore I'd never speak to you again, I loved that line about Mr. Fagen's music.
Not My--Blow, baby, blow!
Roy--who??
Had a treat Wed.--dusting off the lp's and putting them back on the shelf, found "Apogee," which I'd forgotten we had. When we bought it, we had no idea of the Fagen/Becker connection. Where's the damn turntable when you need it?
Name: Mose the fireman
.
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 19:37:56
Comments:
Have you ever seen a squank's tears?
Name: Mose the fireman
.
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 19:37:25
Comments:
Well, lookit mine!
Name: Midnight Bruiser
dirty deeds done gr@tis
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 19:03:52
Comments:
DDD: Of course I will respect your wishes. Does this count as contact? (insert one of those forbidden apologies here)
You upset me immensely, whether or not that was your intention. An officer was kind enough to call me back and let me know you were okay. He informed me that i was the brunt of a joke. If that indeed is the scenario, well...I don't wish you any misfortune. We discussed the concept of karma more than once. Mine is kitchen clean.
Name: Geena
Western World
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 17:50:56
Comments:
Not My Nancy: You came in loud and clear, to
me anyway...it's nice to finally see a townie
writing in...what part of Boston are you from?
I'm from Hyde Park...
Name: Not My Nancy
tomandmimi@bigfoot.com
Location: Boston, USA
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 11:46:13
Comments:
Hi friends. It's been a while since I posted, but it's been a while since I had a new thought (new to me anyway). Here goes:
I heard Aja this morning on WXRV--The River (a station that sprinkles Dan into its playlist with admirable frequency, amid its usual Lilith fare). I paid particular attention to Wayne Shorter's solo this time, and thought about my opportunity to see Shorter about a year ago at the Blue Note.
Shorter's compositions and solos struck me as almost puritanical about avoiding blues modality. He swings and struts and funks about, doing lots of R&B without the "B." It's an interesting approach, not particularly my cuppa joe, but capable of producing some interesting moods not found in his contemporaries' work.
And this morning, I realized the same can be said about Aja. It's a sharp divergence from the Dan's usual love of the blues--lots of whole-tone dissonances, but not many minor thirds. I have always found Aja to be very emotionally compelling in a hard-to-describe way. Kind of soothing (in the beginning, with those maj9 piano chords), then kind of frightening in a fateful, existential way (with that those dense, plangent chords that we know so well from the background to Gadd's drum solo).
I wouldn't be surprised if the musical idea behind Aja was to avoid blue notes. It would be in character with other compositional inspirations they've had (see Fagen on the Homespun tape about jazz/rock composition talking about Chain Lightening, Peg, etc.). If so, maybe they selected Shorter as the ideal no-blue-notes musician.
Am I making sense to any of my brothers and sisters?
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 09:04:15
Comments:
Ruby - Yes, heavy on the primal style of footwear. Deep down, shoes can really make a statement. I sometimes think that I am a closet foot freak.
Re your "moment when attitude sticks to you," is all about fundamental values - it takes a while to form them, but are the basis of what a person is - somewhere, sometime, someone challenges those issues with their lack of respect or sensitivity, and over time, it's becomes a drain. To me, it all has to do about energy. Sooner or later, as mentioned in your "Black Cow" dialogue, cutting loose a situation or relationship is sometimes best for everyone.
A bientot (sorry, my keyboard cannot make the necessary punctuations to make the French saluation more realistic).
Name: DrMu
jml2621@acs.tamu.edu
Location: Hoy Hoy Bomb,
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 08:39:26
Comments:
I've been trying to score a copy of the GlenGarry GlenRoss soundtrack, but the usual outlets have come up short. If there are any suggestions or if you would like to arrange a trade e-me please.
Razor/Roy/Brenda/Ruby: Black Cow does seem to me about a guy on the outside looking in. He adores/is obsessed with a flighty girl with a self-destructuve emotional streak. She ends up with the wrong type of guy, becomes broken hearted, then tries to soothe/console herself by downing those Black Cows and emptying her soul to the narrator. The narrator's relationship is platonic, but he wants much more. He asks her to "break away" from this rut she's in. By the end of the song, he finally sees the futility of this relationship, downs his own Black Cow, decides to "break away" from this fruitless relationship with the gal and slinks home.
Joe Sample's electric piano over the bas line just gives me chills.
Name: RubyBaby
96 tears - I mean shoes
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 17:47:34
Comments:
RazorBoy: I never thought of Black Cow as a "purely platonic" song before, but I'll try. I can relate to the line "I won't cry anymore while you run around..." For me, it's a healthy letting go thing. Ironically, I've found the moment that attitude becomes clear, they stick to ya like glue. Why is that?I'm still looking for those black spikes with red soles. I NEED those primal shoes.
never trading in my letgo thing.
rb
Name: ..
..
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 15:15:37
Comments:
YGK: you're 'scused
Name: YGK
..
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 11:28:26
Comments:
'Scuse me, but did someone recently post that Bonnie Raitt was appearing at a JAZZFEST!!??
She rocks! But jazz? don'tthinkso.
ygk
Name: Roy.Scam
over.there.in.grammytown
Location: they.do.things, very strange
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 09:06:37
Comments:
The State of the Grammys, 1998:
1)They couldn't keep idiots from running up on stage and disrupting the show; it happened twice.
2)The audience was jabbering during Dylan's performance.
3)The presentors were self conscious (or unconscious), and the scripted dialogue was bad, even by award show standards.
4)One category had two versions of the same song nominated.
5)Lifetime Achievement Awards were handed out without giving any insight or even meaningful glimpses of the artists' work.
6)The two best albums of the year, IMHO, were completely overlooked in the nominating process. (I've already mentioned this, but it seems to still be annoying me.)
7)Bob Dylan is starting to look like Tiny Tim. (the Buddy Holly speech was good though)
8)One of the female performers looked like she had Buckwheat in a headlock.
9)One of the presentors told us that Roy Orbison STILL has a unique voice.
10)The list of dumb categories appears to grow every year. (Best liner notes?, Best remix?, Best historical record?)Leonard Pinth Garnell would have loved it.
RS
Name: lisa
on the ro@d again
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 07:59:38
Comments:
dear fez of the north: just when you thought it was safe to get out of the shower...
i deeply regret your inability to attend the said smokefest... watch that you don't develop a nasty case of cabin fever...you wouldn't believe the stack of towels i had prepared for you! however, i promised back in january that i would use my next gratuitous traveling opportunity to come to williamsburg...it's looking like the weekend of april 17-19th will be the target dates...will you be available for a throwdown? i will have my friend samantha in tow...she is a fledgling convert to sd that requires an intensive training session...three days of the dan, surrounded by true fanatics should cement her newly found religion...she will never revert back to the barren state
of pre-dandom...i'm hoping the inimitable mr. roy scam will be available too...roy? i have some new attachments for my adamantium skeleton you just gotta see! perhaps we can convince oleander to come along? we may need to be revived after a disco deluxe evening of partying...i also have a friend in the low rent district that expressed an interest in meeting us...you still in, rasputin? lastly...in order to add a touch of uptown to our gathering, we require the presence of a rich and randy playboy such as kinky to complete the set...how 'bout it kink?"yes we're gonna have a wingding..."
(a pre-summer smoker)
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Location: San Diego, CA
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 07:52:59
Comments:
MinorWhirled: Sorry 'bout that. I found out about the 21st the same way you did -- by reading the Guestbook. Can you cancel?
Name: Zeke
Mawdeegrawhangover
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 07:24:23
Comments:
I forgot something: I thought Bob Dylan was excellent at the grammys. it's good to see him doing well again. His story about
Buddie H. was cool. I'm sure Don and Walt had the same affect
on other musicians. What the hell was this guy with no shirt on
dancing like a fool, doing on stage with Bob?I'm also glad for Paula Cole. She is great with Peter Gabriel on
his live video.outtaheya.
Z.
Name: Zeke
Mawdeegrawhangover
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 06:38:54
Comments:
Docta: Yes, your right! Bill and his ol' lady was a big success
@ MG this year. Seems he was EVERYWHERE! That Monica
was there too. Man, is she hot. I setup camp on Bourbon St.
Friday and soaked it all in until Tuesday. I just kept saying,
"man, is this a great country or what"Don't forget about the Jazz Fest. If you plan on attending, now
is the time to get your reservations down. This year includes,
M. Mcdoobie and his doobie friends, Tom, Pat and many originals, Jimmy Boofay, Bonnie Rait and many more. I'll keep
you posted. IMHO, this would be a GREAT time for the Dan.
I've been to the fest for too many years, and believe me the Dan
would fit like a glove. One stage last year played IGY between sets and the crowd went nuts!Gotta go.
Z.
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 05:51:28
Comments:
Roy Scam - You nailed me good on the plutonic vs platonic - I had a momentary lack of attentiveness (policeman gave me a ticket for that infraction when I nudged a guy in a minor fender bender) . Slimmy's musings kind of made sense, since Fagen and Becker seemed fixated on the far east a few times in "Aja." It doesn't matter how many times I hear any of SD's material, it sounds better and better.
Name: Roy.Scam
Grammy-tically incorrect
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 05:02:08
Comments:
Razor: Good words on Black Cow, but I noticed that you opted for the spelling "plutonic". I personnally try to avoid any relationship that involves radioactivity (or interplanetary travel).
Now someone please convince me that all those albums nominated for Grammys are better than Ben Folds' and Michael Penn's albums from last year....and that those Hall of Fame inductees are better than Steely Dan. Am I suffering from audial dementia?
RS
Name: Black Cow-Lick
dippitydo
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 23:49:27
Comments:
Buzz
Why call 'em out when Hollywood proves you can round 'em up?
Name: Buzz
amutualdroning
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 23:43:33
Comments:
Donald Fagen's music, "Alternate universe meets present reality head-on and neither is insured"? Call out the unusual suspects!
Name: Clark Clockworth
ticktock
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 20:36:58
Comments:
Goodbye Rasputin. Hey, can you get me discount on heating oil?
Name: mad mona
@l@rmed by your words
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 18:38:37
Comments:
rasputin...come and talk to me...please, H.
mona
Name: rasputin
timetomeetthemaker
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 18:24:55
Comments:
goodbye.
Name: Slimmy, Lost in Space
jusushutyumouf
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 17:31:49
Comments:
I have no idea what Brenda is talking about but then I've never owned a secret decoder ring. I agree that Aja should be considered one of the greatest albums of all time but I thought the song, Black Cow, referred to a Hindu suicide concoction similar to a sharp, Hari-Kari sword. "Shiva Unsheathed", if you will. I admit my knowledge of geography is tested by this time-tripping space vamp, but isn't THIS the theme of much of DF's material? Alternate universe meets present reality head-on and neither is insured?
Off to the Kelsey GrammysSlim
Name: mWorld
khillman@lightspeed.net
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 15:27:12
Comments:
maj©: Yeah, no problem, took that off the 'Walk It Like You Talk It' CD - I use it as a shut down sound. I also lifted the Jew's Harp sounds off of there and use 'em in the Windows scheme for when a program performs an illegal function...anybody who wants these e-me, I'll send 'em to you, pretty small files...
Lovesbob: Bummer, you guys finally play a Saturday and I'm already committed to see Milt Jackson and Oscar Peterson in SF...
Peg:What's up? I'm off your mailing list?
Black Cow Discussion: Most interesting thing on the book in recent memory...Brenda Revisited, I liked that 00:55:41 Feb. 24th post...
StAl:Nice pages...I believe the maj© will be contacting you for a list of Petri dish suppliers in the greater Seattle area. And did you see your local climbers on the Everest special on Nova last night?
mW
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 13:58:37
Comments:
My favorite part of Black Cow is musical. It's the way the bass tempo is changed ever so slightly for only a few beats after the last the last full chorus is completed -- after the last full "drink your big black cow and get out of here", then the vamp kicks in. So outrageous!! It only happens for a few seconds, the bass line loosens up, then goes back to its regular pattern. God damn, I need some *real* music theory instruction!!!
On the BFF and Dan similarity: I was listening the XPN in Philly the other day and they played a BFF song. Then there was this "7 second delay" (my curiousity piqued) and magically, the piano intro to My Old School kicked off the next song. nice combination and the comparison couldn't be clearer after hearing these tunes back to back.
BTW -- everything I said about the Hall of Shame restaurant was true.
Minah: thanks for the tomatoes, or is that tom-ah-toes?
maj©
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@commmpmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 09:50:42
Comments:
Brenda - Re: Black Cow - To me, the song conjures up the kind of relationship that many of us have with one person in our lives, who, in the early stages, stimulates a desire to become linked with romantically, but never gets beyond plutonic, for whatever reason. Nonetheless, a loyal frienship develops, and the person gets involved with other people, or situations, but continually comes back to that special friend, who listens to all the issues that continually trip him/her up. Finally, after hearing another litany of woe, the friend with the strong shoulder gets weary of being used or unappreciated.
That song is a jewel, on an album that has no equal.
Name: Bob Tedde
MrSquonk@cts.com
Location: sd, CA USA
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 02:48:41
Comments:
Howdy! Long time no post. I feel Like Rip Van W. Only recognize a few old regulars, and I notice there's a new Razor Boy in town. What happened to the Fogel?
Anyway, file me under "You only call us when you need something"
but I thought someone somewhere might like to know that The Steely Damned are performing on March 21 at (you guessed it ) the Fabulous Catamaran Resort Hotel in Mission Beach.Showtime is 9pm-1:30Am. Cover will most likely be $10. for mo info call either li'l 'ol me at The Rockola 24hr Hotline (619) 558-1966 or The Catamaran at (619) 488-1081lovebob
ps. nice to see 'Da Book' still doin' so well. Kudos St. Al
Name: The Return of Brenda
Mingling
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 21:52:41
Comments:
Well, I believe I have finally found my home at last! What the hell is this place, anyway? Roy Scam? Oleander? Suddenly my Christian name seems so...Brendalesque. I am new to this century and desperately need guidance. Buck has blasted his way through far too many Walker Percy matinees for my taste and I'm really a simple "allegory of the cave" girl, myself. So while Ming is busy setting up the "hoops" for the archery finals, please allow my dizzy, time-twisted brain a few more comments.
Roy, yes, all of DF's tunes project the same theme: Boy sings about girl. Girl likes song. Boy fucks-up and has to write another song to sing. Girl becomes tougher and more distant while waiting. Now do you understand my relationship with Ming? By the way, Buck is a big fan of WB and has decided to call his newest weapon, "Whack". I fear the suitors in my house are in for a long day of thumping but I could be wrong. Those long, thin boxes could be full of root beer and coca-cola. Yeah, and a squadron of Ming's Monkeys might fly out of my butt!
I'm a hard sell I guess. Keep trying. These time contortions are demanding fistfulls of Midol PM.
Which way is West?
John Carter's Ex
Name: Shocked in
NYC
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 20:42:31
Comments:
Irving Azoff is now managing Mike Tyson??!!!??!!
Name: The New Priest
yuk yuk
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 20:28:36
Comments:
A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly
speak. After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done. The
monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. If I
start to get nervous, I take a sip." So the next Sunday he took
the monsignor's advice.At the beginning of the sermon, he got nervous and took a
drink. He proceeded to talk up a storm. Upon return to his
office after mass, he found the following note on his door:1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J.C.
7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy,
Junior, and Spook.
8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him.
9. When David was hit by a rock and knocked off his donkey,
don't say he was stoned off his ass.
10. We do not refer to the cross as the Big T!
11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, "Take
this and eat it, for it is my body", he did not say, "Eat
me."
12. The Virgin Mary is not referred to as the, "Mary with the
Cherry."
13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: "Rub-A-dub-dub,
thanks for the grub, yeah God."
14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy-pulling contest at St.
Peter's, not a peter-pulling contest at St. Taffy's.
Name: oleander
speak LOUD, I can't hear you
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 20:25:58
Comments:
St. Al--Thanks for the interviews. Lots of laughs.
John H, Clas--Despite my slow ear (cf. Slow Hand) (shades of the stick click), I can sort of hear it. I love "Speak Low." What a gorgeous tune.
The part of "Black Cow" I really like is the overlapping readings in the second verse. You can read it "You should know how all the pros play the game: you change your name. Like a gangster on the run, you will stagger homeward to your precious one," or "You should know how all the pros play the game. You change your name like a gangster on the run. You will stagger homeward...." Feels different each way. The what-is-a-black-cow issue has come up. Someone looked it up in a compendium of mixed drinks and came up dry. Where I grew up, it was a root beer float--odd drink for someone with remedies at hand. Maybe it just sounded good. I also like the progression of the choruses from "I can't cry anymore" to "I don't care anymore." Reminds me of the progression of choruses in "Junkie Girl."
Does anyone else wake up in the morning with songs booming in your mind, as if you're walking into a party that's in full swing inside your head? On my trip it was "Any World" and "Boston Rag," and the last few days BFF's "Smoke" and "Here at the WW." So I've been wondering about this lately, and Sunday morning the 3-year-old woke up, rolled over, and whispered, "Back, Jack, don't do it again." In tune.
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 19:02:00
Comments:
Hey now!
Wanted to let everyone know about all the new things happening on this web site. First we have the Steely Dan Cookbook:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/recipes/
Definitely under major construction. Anyone out there have a good Grapefruit Wine or Cherry wine recipe? How about your personal favorite? E-mail me and we'll make sure it gets posted.
Next, I've added a bunch of Real Audio files to the sounds and interviews page:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/sounds/sounds.html
More interviews taken from the Words and Music series. Currently Walter Becker's interview given for the release of 11 Tracks Of Whack is available for download. I should have Donald's Kamikiriad inteview completed within the next few days.
Last, I've added more links to the cool links page:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/other_dan/links.html
I'm not sure what the motivation has been for all this activity? Actually I do...My profound dislike of the Television, and the fact that I can't read.....
StAl
Name: Sunny
@stoney.trace
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 16:23:06
Comments:
Clas-- It's a beautiful, sunny day here in North Carolina and romance is in the air. Why don't you close your eyes, open your mind and breathe in along with me? You sure would feel better with a little Sunny on your face.
S.
Name: Damon Runyon
@ghost of christmas past
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 13:04:39
Comments:
Hey Dionne Warwicke: ..."I see a gray aura hovering over the entity that is Steely Dan... the list of the dead reads...
Jimmy Hodder, Jeff Porcaro, Victor Feldman, the engineer that erased 'The Second Arrangement', ......"...
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 10:32:27
Comments:
Re: Hotel Atop the Bellevue in Philadelphia. I mention it as a "must play" location because of a number of things: first, it's a classy joint.
Second, it sits "atop" the Bellevue Hotel, some 30 floors up. From there, Walter and Donald can look down on everyone. I think they'd like that, don't you?
Third, the Bellevue is infamous for being the location where Legionnaires Disease was unleashed oh-so-many-years-ago. Remember when all those conventioneers died at the hotel. Becker jokes abound from this place.
I can hear it now: "Dear Craig: You have done it again. No, it's not the construction vehicles that bother me, it's the constant whirl (hi, minah) of the emergency personnel in the hallways trying to clear the dead."
Fourth, and I can speak from experience cause I used to have an office in the Bellevue, two steps outside the rear entrance is a strip bar called "The Office". Easy on -Easy off.
Dollars in hand,
maj©
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 06:44:34
Comments:
oleadner, I think what Clas is referring to on Glamor Profession is that DF once said the bridge on Glamor Profession ("hollywood I know your middle name" is a take on Weill's 'Speak Low".
hey and you guys who are analyzing Black Cow, you sound like you are sure DF wrote it as opposed to WB. why??
Name: Roy.Scam
wrong.again.black.cow.breath
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 05:31:05
Comments:
Return to Brenda Revisited: Re-11TOW and Black Cow. Your opinions are inventive, original, and well stated. I still haven't found one I agree with. Was DF also talking about betraying himself in Reelin', My Old School, Dr. Wu? Even geniuses suffer from old fashioned girl problems.
SFK: Welcome back. How's the Steely Baby? During your absence, we discussed Nightfly, Kama, 11TOW, and whether or not Kinky actually lives in New York City.
Ole--BF5 cooked. Opened w/Eddie Walker, encored w/Smoke and Uncle Walter. My son got to talk to BF and Robert Sledge.
Bellvue. Isn't that a psychiatric hospital? The kind of place where you'd stare out at the frozen rain and get paranoid and fantasize about being back on the street with a large sum of money, and wonder when they're gonna' send you home?
RS
Name: Brenda Revisited
address still unknown
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 00:55:41
Comments:
The evil Emperor Ming has lost me in the GB so I will answer a question while Buck is recharging the Solar Disruption unit.
Black Cow is about a super-chocolatey Shirley Temple. A loss of innocence hidden in bitter-sweetness. Donald's not singin' about a woman who left him. He's singing about the times he failed his own test and became just another beverage on the soda shop shingle. But failure is gain. Mr. Fagen second guesses himself and answers his own questions with every subsequent verse. Who was "high"? What was a "crying disgrace"? Who's face did "they" see and who is "they"? I have only one more thing to say before Ming draws a bead: "Quick Buck! In the corner of your eye!"
Your Old Pal,Brenda, Princess of Mizar
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 00:38:37
Comments:
Hi Ole, well, if you can't hear it I can't do anything about it. It's the chord-progressions. Not the melody. Ripped right off from mr Weill.
Roy, thanks for the advice. It's time for some new music.
San Fran, hi, good to see you again. How's the little girl?
C ...walking the dog and watching Cop Land...
Name: oleander
topanga windows
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 21:53:31
Comments:
Raze--Her ruby slippers, of course. For atmosphere, they HAVE to play the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium in the Asheville Civic Center. It has mediocre acoustics at best, but it's in MY atmosphere.
YGK--Oh, well. Sorry about the last-minute e. Yes, we'll try again, perhaps at an upcoming Dan concert?
Roy--Oooh, you're just trying to make me jealous! BFF in Va Beach? You dog! Give us highlights! Re Randy C--I know Spirit's come up in the GB before--I saw them at the U of Md. once, and was a fond fan. This summer, in Michigan, I saw a bunch of their CD's, bought a couple, and listened to them again--very fresh, innocent in a way, and a real treat. I thought Randy C. was a terrific guitarist. I also recently picked up an lp of Mr. C's which I will listen to as soon as the turntable gets fixed.
Clas dollink--I HAVE been listening to the songs of Mr. Weill, who incidentally came to the US to live after being from Europe for a while, but I can't figure out how "Glamour Profession" comes in.
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 18:43:34
Comments:
Re: The Bellevue Ballroom being a must play venue for SD - Is it atmosphere (a special ingredient) or accoustic merit that would dictate the ultimate place to hear our heroes play? If atmosphere were paramount, then a club like the El Mocombo in Toronto or a choice from New York or L.A. (I don't know any of them) would be the ultimate. Would Carnegie Hall or some other renowed concert hall, offering great accoustics and also allow the audience to be intimate with the band and vice versa be prefered? Or do my 44 odd years make me appear like an old fart, instead of suggesting a funkier house than the aforementioned? How was their sound when they appeared outdoors? All you "guest bookers" who were able to catch them on the last tour, torture me with some highlights.
Ruby Baby, what shoes would you where to a Dan concert?
Name: PLUS&MINUS
completely.irregular
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 18:02:53
Comments:
SEE, I TOLD YOU SO.
It seems that our beloved Walter befriended a one Mr. Randy
California prior to the Randall's untimely demise. I would have
never guessed that Becker boy would be up to something like
this, I'm just glad it wasn't Donald. Of course, could he be
next to fall to ill times at the side of this jazz man?p.s. Did Randy drown? Or did some kind of seamonster get him?
Name: Dionne Warwick
@ The Psychic Friends Network
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 17:32:54
Comments:
Professor: I don't recall Walter Becker being a 'Friend' so-to-speak. We at the Network are very interested in knowing how Mr. Becker was able to predict the untimely death of one Randy California, what? three years prior? Afterall, we just make this shit up. Please have Mr. B contact Georgia, myself, or our newest celeb clairvoyant, Fran Tarkenton, so we can consider him for membership. Our 1-900 number has been disconnected due to the recent Chapter 11 proceedings, but I assure you, we will be up and running again in no time. Wow, this could be great!That's what Friends are for...
DW
Name: Prof. Stephen Dan Esq.
stevev@jps.net
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 16:08:43
Comments:
re: Randy California....he was indeed a good friend of Walter's and according to Brian Sweet the person who taught Becker the guitar as teenagers in Queens (Kaweens).....also he appears to be the subject of One of the 11 tracks: Surf/And Or Die.....Randy was a big surfer and tragically died last year in Hawaii...he was of course leader of the an inspired late '60's group Spirit along with his step dad .......
bitchin and moaning: re: NY Times coverage of Steely...ever since they got color pics they seem more like People magazine...like all the established media they fail to see the significance of Steely Dan's legacy....led by Rolling Stone and all those corporate FM dj's (who still play Steve Miller like HE was a freat artist of the '70's) Steely Dan for the most part is remembered as a quirky and weird but not overly important rock band.....frig 'em all!
Name: PLUS&MINUS
crazy,sane@alltimes
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 14:43:58
Comments:
Go and visit some of your friends that you never knew you had
at, www.tcnj.edu/~ellisles/BipolarPlanet/index.html
See, you do have friends, and not all of them want to hurt you all of the time just some of the time but never on mondays especially if it is raining and the barometric pressure is hovering around the 29.65 mark and the effects of El Nino~ are
of the lesser extremity in the west coast states. Of course, some
of your friends are not really your friends and merely portray
themselves to be friends so as to prepare for the inevitable attack that will happen when you least expect it due to the fact that you are with your friends and those are the times when you let your guard down due to the fact that you are friends. Do I make myself clearly clouded?
Name: YGK
..
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 14:06:04
Comments:
Oleander: I got your mail too late - Garfield Place was about 14 blocks away - in what is known as the North Slope - really not that far though. Sorry we missed each other, but maybe next time we can with better planning.
Dan-Related - If one perused the New York Times Magazine yesterday, you may read an article on music, the old, 'big' albums, and why todays music is so fractious. Also, you would've seen a side view of some old LP's, many of which were Dylan, but one of which was Jay And The Americans. The article spoke at length of Dylan's "Time Out of Mind", but dammit, not even a mention of the Dan, only an indirect reference by way of a picture of the sidebar of a JATA album.
ygk
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 13:11:43
Comments:
Speck: I like the sound of that, a Hall of Shame restaurant named, Countdown to Ecstasy, here's why. Think of the cruel joke when people would be ordering and eating(with a smile) menu items like: Steely Dan I and Steely Dan II (for the ones who can handle it ALL) and Soul Ram.
FYI in the Philadelphia area: In mid-March at the Ballroom atop the Bellevue: Larry Carlton, Stanley Clarke, and others. Will check for complete listing. This is a place where the Dan HAS to play.
maj©
Name: J-man
john.stanich@personalogospsykologi.se
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 12:23:22
Comments:
To K-BRUCE
Web yourself over to
pages.prodigy.com/sdresource/for some comments re lyrics re Black Cow. (It's near the end of the page.)
Name: DrMu
seeing double
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 09:16:13
Comments:
Sorry! How the f*** did that happen?!
Name: DrMu
Tangentially Dam
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 09:13:00
Comments:
Ruy: Speaking of Live, I picked up Erykah Badu's Live album follow-up to Baduizm and it's quite good, preferable to said Baduizm, which is nominated for a Granny..er Grammy. The recording has a luscious-sounding backup fusion-type band (drums, bass, keys, back-up singers) which communicates a nice blend of R&B and jazz. The sound is superb (kudos to the engineers) and EB feeds off the audience well (too well in parts where some of her yaking with the audience was in dire need of being edited out). Her voice sounds great, a rich blend of Billie Holiday, Phoebe Snow, and Deborah Berg (lead singer from I 2 I). A little thin on the high end, but she her voice has this real trumpet-like quality which kinda turns the performance from a 3 to 4 peice band. You might check that out.
You might check out Diana Krall, too even though her style of jazz doesn't have much to do with Dan. Hooooey, Mama!! She Looks and sounds great!! I'm going to have to pick her up after I save a few more piasters!
Zeke" I hear that "show us your t..." is not enough any longer at Marty Grass. "Presidential acts" are now expected in exchange for pearls.
Name: DrMu
Tangentially Dam
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 09:12:37
Comments:
Ruy: Speaking of Live, I picked up Erykah Badu's Live album follow-up to Baduizm and it's quite good, preferable to said Baduizm, which is nominated for a Granny..er Grammy. The recording has a luscious-sounding backup fusion-type band (drums, bass, keys, back-up singers) which communicates a nice blend of R&B and jazz. The sound is superb (kudos to the engineers) and EB feeds off the audience well (too well in parts where some of her yaking with the audience was in dire need of being edited out). Her voice sounds great, a rich blend of Billie Holiday, Phoebe Snow, and Deborah Berg (lead singer from I 2 I). A little thin on the high end, but she her voice has this real trumpet-like quality which kinda turns the performance from a 3 to 4 peice band. You might check that out.
You might check out Diana Krall, too even though her style of jazz doesn't have much to do with Dan. Hooooey, Mama!! She Looks and sounds great!! I'm going to have to pick her up after I save a few more piasters!
Zeke" I hear that "show us your t..." is not enough any longer at Marty Grass. "Presidential acts" are now expected in exchange for pearls.
Name: San Francisco Knight
steelybabies@geocities.com
Location: London, UK
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 07:31:41
Comments:
Hello again guys.
I have been away for a while, but I hope that things are still the same!
Clas, are you well?
what about Roy, Ruby, Kinky and godd 'ole St Al????
Would one of you care to update me in a comical kinda way!
Many thanks.
Laters with heart growing fonder
SFK
Name: Roy.Scam
drowning.slowly
Va
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 05:22:51
Comments:
Clas: Re-BF5: Start by seeing them live in Virginia Beach tonight; that's their real strength, but the albums are great too. Assuming you've got some lame excuse for not getting to Dixie, then start with "Whatever and Ever Amen". If the opening songs, 'Angry Dwarf' and 'Fair' don't grab you, then turn in your soul and move to a warm climate.--They also, similarly to Steely Dan, have released some great tracks on the 'flip sides' of their singles that you can't get elsewhere.
BTW, last Friday was also the birthday of the late Randy California, supposedly a friend of Walter's, and a damn good musician that some leftover hippies remember. Aren't You Glad?
RS
Name: c
c@w
Location: x, x x
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 02:27:01
Comments:
11 TOW is a masterpiece!
Ben Folds Five, which CD is best to begin with?
Begin the Beguine, C.
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 01:14:45
Comments:
Sunny; "Clas, I am young and romantic and a virgin to cyber chat." I am old and not romantic but still a virgin on cyber chat.
How Is Lisa? Say hi!Rune; hej, så du är från Norge? Oslo? Trondheim? Bergen? Ha det!
Ole Ander; Yes, Kurt Weill. Sorry to confuse you, he was not a US-man, from Europe. How should you know? Listen to Brecht/Weill-songs and you will hear that Glamour Prof. is Weill-music.
AJA; you do? I know I have been lazy on the emails lately. Give me some time, OK?
Roy Scam; I am not interested in sports, but did Sweden get any medails? I saw something about Silver, but I am not sure.
...back in the maze with lazy Lena... C.
Name: torque
you @sked for it
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 21:46:58
Comments:
hey bruce! its about sex.
Name: K-BRUCE
kebruce@awod.com
Location: , s.c. fFORGOT
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 18:16:26
Comments:
I CANT BELIEVE WITH ALL THIS TECH. THE ONLY THING
PEOPLE CAN FIND TO DO WITH IT IS SEX.
KEEP YOUR SEX AT HOME ( IF THERE'S ANY THERE )
OR AT YOUR FAV. STRIP BAR.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE SONG
BLACK COW IS ABOUT
Name: J-man
john.stanich@personalogospsykologi.se
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 14:31:58
Comments:
Hei RUNE!
Do DF &WB know norwegian? Think they'll appreciate swedish?
Me n another person from 10 jan are trying to zoot allure SD to Scandinavia this summer.Ha de
Jman
Name: Walter Specker
Give me a break...
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 12:43:00
Comments:
In the enormity of a near random universe, aren't we all microscopic specks?WS
Name: Roy.Scam
BF5 @ Abyss.in.VaBeach.Monday
Va
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 11:56:09
Comments:
Ole-wanderer--This pollution eating mobile foilage that you spotted in the Big Apple, it didn't happen to say "Feed me, Seymour!" did it?----I meant to ask you to pick up my P.C. stowed out on Avenue Z.--I hear that even the traffic reports are Dan-literate in the City.
Return to Brenda: You still deserve better. 11TOW did everything that Springsteen, Gabriel, and Cohen try to do, and did it with prettier chords. Don't give up on it.
RS
Name: Don Baird
Donbaird@admin.humberc.on.ca
Location: Toronto, Ont Canada
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 07:24:35
Comments:
Sunday February 22, 1998
at the
Bamboo/Queen street west, Toronto, Canada
9:30 PM
Pretzel LogicA tribute to Steely Dan featuring:
Glyn Stevens-vocals
Don Baird-keyboards
Shawn Eisenberg-drums
Bob McAlpine-guitar
Peter Graham-tenor & vocals
Tim Johns-guitar
Dave Johns-bass
Jim Lawliss-alto
Joe Reynolds-trumpet
Gary Taylor-percussion
"I cried when I wrote this song
sue me if I play too long
this brother is free
I'll be what I want to be..."DF/WB '77
Name: RUNE
oppifjellet
Norge
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 04:57:57
Comments:
På en dårlig dag Steely Dan
Når sola skinner Steely Dan
Da du trodde du begynte å forstå Steely Dan
Og nå Stealing Danit was still SEPTEMBER WHEN.
Name: RUNE
vegart@online.no
Norge
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 04:40:21
Comments:
I`m back with a stronger mind.
Becker`s 11 tracks are strange and beautiful.
Not to forget number 12 Little Kawai.
it was still SEPTEMBER WHEN.
Name: Return to Brenda
address unknown
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 01:55:44
Comments:
11 Tracks of Whack is an apt title for the lame piece of shit Mr. Becker put forth to the public. I've listened to this garbage enough and no amount of gentle coaxing will make me reconsider my opinion. WB was obviously too strung out to get a real percussionist for this project and the lack of effort shows. I bet DF only participated in order to save his good name. If WB doesn't look upon this solo effort as a professional embarrasment then God help us all.
Name: dug
dcl@home.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 22:20:31
Comments:
wow is this a kinky web page or Steely Dan?
Name: ol meander
an oleander grows in brooklyn
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 18:48:31
Comments:
Roy--Botanical flash: spotted a rootless, mutant epiphyte specimen, released from runners and thriving on smoggy grit like ailanthus....Tracked: passed an eatery named Josie's; saw a club where folks were in a line around the block; basked in the frozen rain by Radio City; pointed down Seventh Avenue; checked who was playing at The Fez; gave a nod to the charmer in Brooklyn; didn't get lost in the barrio but cruised the Museum of the American Indian.
And saw the most supreme card-handler on the planet: Ricky Jay, prestidigitator, king of legerdemain, and portly cameo in "House of Games" and "Tomorrow Never Dies." Not only can he chew your disbelief up and blow it into smoke rings, but he's erudite about it--has an incomparable collection of magic arcana and quotes it richly in his show. If anyone in the Apple area can, go stand in the cancellation line at Second Stage and see this guy. Once in a lifetime experience.
End of OTD--makes me remember many of the moody, long, lonely walks I've taken on the beach.
St. Al--I have a number of tobacco recipes....E me for more....
Clas--"Kurt Weill's glamour profession"??!!??
stevie--what is your source for the T/Barrytown idea?
Rubita--More Danmoments: 1) same McD's. same balls--"Tomorrow's Girls." I think I'll become a regular. 2) "Entertainment" magazine, airplane reading--Bill Pullman in the upcoming "Zero Effect" is described as using "pretzel logic" to solve crimes without leaving his apartment.
Happy belated B, Mr. Becker.
Name: Sunny
@stoney.trace cabin
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 17:55:58
Comments:
Greetings Dan fans, one and all. My luminous friend Lisa has been gracious enough to transport me to the vast computer wonderland and all it's fantastic attractions...most wonderfully, this delightful exchange of dialogue. She's also recently begun the process of enlightening me in the art of Steely Dan...Oh! how I love the goddess! (and the guestbook)
Clas, I am young and romantic and a virgin to cyber chat. I imagine we can stroll any stretch of sparkling beach we would ever desire...Announcer: "The list of possibilities has just passed Mars and is quickly approaching Uranus. When will it come to an end?"
Kinky. Hey! I'm checkin' you out...
S.
Name: wacked out on wack
kayugakid@aol.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 12:02:59
Comments:
Finally broke down and bought 11 TOW
might keep only 2 Ts
WB fifty is not niftyback to FL room w/BB Srs.
Kayuagkid
Name: Microscopic Spell Check
not found - ecstacy
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 09:08:03
Comments:
Replace with: ecstasy
Name: a microscopic (but harmless) speck
.
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 09:04:56
Comments:
Major Dude: I would name that restaurant Countdown To Ecstacy.
And it would live up to its name. They'd be lining up outside...What do you think?
Name: Greg Lougayness
Nagano
Location: Japan,
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 01:47:52
Comments:
Has anyone seen my gerbil?
Name: Tanya Harding
Trailer Haven
USA
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 00:09:53
Comments:
It ain't the size of the wave, it's the motion of the ocean, baby! Now show me your tsunami!!!!
Name: Return to Brenda
address unknown
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 23:25:06
Comments:
That's Lipinsky you cruel, blue suede-o-phonic phool. Don't think the King ain't watchin' his little fried nanners.
Name: Ms. Lewinsky
if you're nasty
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 22:35:48
Comments:
First the President, and now an Olympic Gold Medal in figure skating! What next?!
Name: defender
uncle@n willy
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 21:56:43
Comments:
Hey Man! I am real, not a figment of Kinky's imagination. Hal is a Prophet. Are you jealous of his quick mind, striking good looks, fat bank account and absurdly large genitalia?
He knows what the ladies like.
Kinky's #1 Fan
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 20:21:48
Comments:
Unlike a certain surly subscriber to this here GB, I guess I oughta occasionally post somethin' Dan related... I am profoundly conciliatory...
Turns out our illustrious Steve Gadd cut his eye teeth drumming for the US Army band. He volunteered (signed up for band duty) to avoid being drafted, which would have required him to serve in the jungles of Nam. He says he learned his incredible gift of sight reading drum charts whist playing for the US Army band - what with their penchant for discipline, etc.
Name: Not Hal
Kinky's #2 Fan
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 19:28:10
Comments:
Clean Willy I have never seen one post from you that was not bashing Kinky. Have you ever made one?
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 18:58:47
Comments:
OMIGOD... Hal, I'm begging you, take a deep breath, sit back, have another beer, and relax... Please don't start inventing yet another fictitious and fustian fan base. It's just way too obvious at this point.
Name: defender
a f@n of the Kinkster
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 17:52:17
Comments:
come on people. Kinky is a maestro. Learn to appreciate his wit!
Name: I hate him too
but....
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 17:24:46
Comments:
Please Clean Willy,If your gonna try to make a fool out of Kinky please try to say something clever or funny or something!
Name: mWorld
@work
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 15:32:31
Comments:
Maj© - I knew you'd ask me that...Sorry...but take heart, Pat's got a nifty recipe...
Re:'The Name':
um...'Eat and/or Die'...?
Re: 'The Dog':
I think they duct tape 'em to the boards.
mW
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 14:58:42
Comments:
Hmmm, no suggestions for the Hall of Shame *restaurant*.
mW: Kewl shades, how's you teach the dog to surf like that? Bring any Maui-zowie back with you?
maj©
Name: MrWhatever
asianvegetarian?
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 14:45:46
Comments:
cow,pig,chicken,duck,deer,antelope,bison,emu,snail,turkey,trout,
rhea,scallop,elk,mutton,veal,snapper..both kinds!,perch,toag,
lamb,oyster,lobster,bear,pheasant,quail,walleye,catfish,squirrel,
.....these are a few of my favorite things. Wanna come for dinner? sorry no greens.
Name: Aja
slipped veg@tarian
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 14:28:44
Comments:
I slipped again, just a few bites of chicken, what was I thinking? And why am I sharing? Who cares?
StAl - I miss your sense of humor. Clas - I miss your kind emails.
WB (if you actually read this GB) Happy Birthday!
Aja
Name: So who's counting?
time out of mind
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 13:52:53
Comments:
...in 2 years...Happy birthday Walter!!
Name: justafreak
reel-in-in-the-years
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 13:21:16
Comments:
So Mr. Becker, you have surpassed the half a century mark!
Joyous birthdate!
See folks, a good clean lifestyle, keeping away from excess drink and other pleasures really is the way to go as evidenced by the priestly lifestyle lead by Walter. We can all do well by following his fine example. Another hit anyone?....Pun intended.
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 12:09:06
Comments:
... and you, Kranky, are an incredibly large boil on the ass of humanity...
Name: Kinky
@WB'sBirthdayBash
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 11:43:51
Comments:
RubyBaby - Don't underestimate yourself, sweetheart, you're an incredibly small speck.
Name: RubyBaby
Happy Birthday, you handsome stud!
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 11:01:58
Comments:
Dearest Walter,It is with humility and some embarassment that I write to you. How could I miss the fact that you are completely absent from the Nightfly? Yes, I've read the liner. Yes, I've checked the list of musicians. (yes, I CAN read) So...? All I can figure is that when it says Randy Brecker, my brain did something funky and turned it into Walter Becker.
But that doesn't let me off the hook now, does it? How about my own ears - did I hear your cool instrumentation? Did I detect your lyrical genious? No, no and no. I merely assumed that you laid low on this one. I took it for granted that you were in there somewhere, in a subtle way but no less valuable. How could I conceive of anything else?
I am now aware of the old lady lawsuit, (or is that laddy?) thank you, hunter s.
I realize that I am just a speck, smaller than most other specks, and that you probably won't even see this. But on the outside chance that I've offended you I wanted to apologize. You don't deserve to be taken for granted. And definitely not on your birthday!
May all your favorite wishes come true -
rb
Name: hunter s.
@thompsom.org
Location: gonzo, co.
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 10:08:23
Comments:
re:Becker's absence in the late '70's/early '80's.......Becker was whacked out on hard drugs during this time , embracing the dark side a la Colonel Kurtz.....he wasn't on 'Nightfly' because he had to get out of town due to a big lawsuit by an old laddy in Hollywood.....he had in effect turned into one of the characters of his own songs.....life does imitate art after all....
... gotta go shoot my guns off.... a la Old Bull Lee
Name: hunter s.
@thompsom.org
Location: gonzo, co.
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 10:08:21
Comments:
re:Becker's absence in the late '70's/early '80's.......Becker was whacked out on hard drugs during this time , embracing the dark side a la Colonel Kurtz.....he wasn't on 'Nightfly' because he had to get out of town due to a big lawsuit by an old laddy in Hollywood.....he had in effect turned into one of the characters of his own songs.....life does imitate art after all....
... gotta go shoot my guns off.... a la Old Bull Lee
Name: Big Fan
dhkrouse@snet.net
Location: Barkhamsted, CT USA
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 09:58:44
Comments:
HB WB
Name: Roy.Scam
@ the Dixie Chicken
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 08:50:38
Comments:
Dr.MU: Accidental or not, "drshing" is a perfect onomatopoetic word for the crashing cymbal parts in "On the Dunes".
RS
Name: Phelonious
horsetrack
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:48:42
Comments:
Fez, Joe M: I'm a big Feat fan. Fat Man In The Bathtub is killer.
Willin' and Don't Bogart ... very nice.In my early daze I worked in a music store. When Led Zep's
In Through The Out Door and the Dan's Gaucho came out, people camped out overnight to get a copy. Does this sort of thing still happen?
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:38:53
Comments:
Hey guys it was nothing new when WB didn't play on all the tracks on Gaucho. He didn't play on all the tracks of Aja either, and probably the same for RScam, and maybe Katy Lied, and there may have even been a track or two on Pretzel Logic too. His playing, while great, isn't as important as the fact that HE CREATED THE MUSIC with DF, right? But I personally love his tasty Gaucho guitar parts on the songs Hey 19 and Gaucho.
And BTW ... Happy Birthday Walter!!
Name: DrMu
not so nimble fingers
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:37:44
Comments:
that's "crashing" drums
Name: DrMu
twitch & smoke
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:35:25
Comments:
Roy/Razor/FezNorde: Yes he' just watching those super swells wondering about those heart breaking girls from another world wondering why his life is going out to sea. Those "drshing" drums...perfect. On the Dunes (Trans-Island Skyway is a close 2nd) is the one song on Kama that sounds most like the stuff on the Nightfly (a grezt illustration of a muscial clarity and complexity - the best) to me. I have to admit that sometimes I'll listen to Kama from Teahouse backwards to Trans-Island Skyway. I prefer the songs over the last 69% of the CD. Given Walter and Donald's revived collaboration, the CD makes surprising sense in this order...or it could be just me.
Name: Joe M
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:27:22
Comments:
feznorth: Yeah, The Feats "Waiting For Columbus" is one of greatest damn recordings of all time. I'm not some whacked out vinyl freak or anything, but if you can find an original double LP of this one, do so. Much like Asylum's hack job on Joni's "Shadows And Light" where some musically challanged CD re-issue nitwit edited out several gems including a cut featuring a phenomenal Metheny solo, the CD version of "Columbus" culls some vintage Lowell George material as well.
I've also read/heard that Becker was AWOL for much of "Gaucho". He also went on an extended two week bender during "Aja" where not even Fagen knew of his whereabouts, but his imprint on "Aja" is incontrovertible.
Name: Roy.Scam
where.rents.are.high
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 05:16:42
Comments:
Razor: I re-listened to the 3 minute farewell of "On the Dunes" and the percussion is impressive. I also noticed that, at about the 2 minute mark, there seems to be a couple of notes of slap bass, as if Larry Graham snuck in the studio for a second and a half. Did you hear that too or was it a rheumatis' medicine induced hallucination?
Clas: 2 Shay. I was wondering if you'd notice my Scanda-phobic remark.
Fez del Norte: Take care of that old blood pump. Maybe it's time to cut back to a tankard of Chowning's Ale per day. (and one Cheech & Chong sized J.)
RS
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 00:25:49
Comments:
Roy Scam; yeah, and that goes for the GBOOK too?
Name: just a RubyBabe
in the woods
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 22:37:41
Comments:
RazorBoy: I admit, I didn't finish that sentence on purpose. I hoped you would come closer to me so I could whisper it to you. I am at once shy and shameless.All I ask of you...is share a wild dream or two.
John Henry: Your post was quite a shock to me! I have serious questions: Why wasn't WB involved in The Nightfly? How do I overcome the humiliation of being the last to know this? Do you think it would hurt WB's feelings to know his distinct absence was overlooked? He doesn't read St.Al's guest book, does he?
Major: I'm mulling over your last post. The thoughts of such a generous offer, induction of the 2 most magnificent composers & A RESTAURANT has made my heart beat a little faster...
rb
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 19:26:45
Comments:
To Royal Scam: The final instrumentation in "On the Dunes" kind of solidifies the imagery that Fagen conjures up, in me at least. During the song, I picture what he says, and feel transported there. But the instrumentation sounds like water welling up on the ocean, and crashing on the beach, and I come up with my own images. Mostly sensual of course, with the whole sand and surf contributing to an image of being there alone, or with a lover, away from the "maze."
Yeah, it 's smaltzy and all, but that's what Fagen and Becker do with their music. No other artists, except maybe the Eagles or Jackson Browne can elicit that type of imagery in me.
Prof: I remember seeing DF at the 1983 Grammys, as his name was read out as a nominee for video of the year (I think it was New Frontier) and "I.G.Y." was also nominated. It was kind of freaky, because I had never seen him on television or other media, and figured he would be the last guy to be seen at an awards show. When "Nightfly" came out in 1982, the music critic for the Ottawa newspaper dismissed it as not worthy of much consideration as quality work. To appreciate SD, Fagen or Becker, one or two "listens" of their work is sacrilgious to pass judgement on.
Sorry for taking up so much space.
Name: justafreak
goodbyecruel world.gov
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 19:08:51
Comments:
Looks like the human race has been run.
Name: fezonorth
bodaciouscowboy.com
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 14:27:15
Comments:
Ruby: I knew you were joshing (as opposed to the poster who suggested I should retire) in your response to my negative critique of The Nightfly. I was serious, though, in saying I was going to buy the CD in an attempt to enhance my listening aptitude. I am troubled by my relative dislike of the album. I feel much like my four-year-old nephew when he realized he didn't favor cotton candy. He knew it was something he should like and felt like a fool because he did not.
All: A recent poster said the major difference between Nightfly and Kamakariad was the lack of Becker from the former. This raised the question (this is mostly rhetorical, please, no flames) in my mind of how much Becker contributed to Gaucho. I know he has co-writing credit but he's not listed as a player on some of the tracks, he was in an admitted drug haze at the time, and he was hit by a car at some point in the production. Any thoughts as to his level of input?
Non-SD 70ish CD recommendation: Little Feat, Waiting for Columbus. Live disc that captures Lowell et al. at their best. Check it out.
fezo
Name: Prof.steve v dan
grammyaward.org
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 10:29:59
Comments:
Hey inquiring: Steely Dan won a Grammy in 1978 for Best Engineered Recording (non Classical)...they won the same award in 1979 for the FM Soundtrack Lp and in 1981 for Gaucho....
in 1983 'the Nightfly' was nominated for 7 different categories but failed to win even one....and ludicrisly (sic)the award for Best Producer went to Toto instead of Gary Katz!....Jeff Porcaro had enough class however to state that "This Award belongs to Gary Katz!"....interestingly Fagen actually attentded this program and was shown anxiously seated on several occassions.....
X Files contd....
Skinner:"Agent Mulder are you aware that Donald Fagen, lead singer for an obscure pop band named Danielle Steele..."Mulder:"Uh sir,..that's Steely Dan....an efficient and ambigous recording outfit that charted consistently throughout the 1970's."
Skinner:"Are you trying to show me up Agent Mulder?"
Name: FrozenRainMaker
u6b88@ugb.keele.ac.uk
UK
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 09:28:50
Comments:
Looking for Medical Science or any rare Dan I'm unaware of, or Metheny live stuff. Have plenty of Dan rarities to offer. E-mail me please if you can help or just feel like proposing general trading.
"Homicide on the dunes..."
Name: Inquiring Minds
@ the AP Wire
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 08:45:04
Comments:
"This Week In Entertainment History"
from the Associated Press"20 years ago: The Eagles won Record Of The Year for "Hotel California" at the 20th annual Grammy Awards. "Rumours" by Fleetwood Mac won the Album Of The Year. Other winners included Linda Ronstadt, Steely Dan and James Taylor."
What was the SD Grammy for?
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 06:11:08
Comments:
Rubybaby, I think there is one key musician missing from Nightfly who would have made it as Steely Dan-like as Kamakiriad is... And his initials are WB
RoyScam, I don't think the instrumentatoin at the end of On The Dunes is uneventful. The drumming by itself is phenomenal, who was that, Chris Parker on that one? Moves from sensitive to explosive, like Gadd did on Aja.
Name: Roy.Scam
@1 Peek-a-Boo Street
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 05:19:09
Comments:
Nightfly vs Kamakiriad: I'd call it a toss up. (That's 'pick em' to you gamblers.) But I'd give a slight advantage to Nightfly because you don't have to have a booklet to understand it.
Razor: I share that weakness for "On the Dunes". Check out Fagen's instructional video, where he shows details of the piano construction of that song, Peg and Chain Lightning.---Do you have any explanation for that 3 minutes of relatively uneventful instumentation at the end of "On the Dunes" on Kamakiriad?
And the painful part of watching the Winter Olympics is realizing that there are things that Finland, Sweden and Norway can do better than we can.
RS
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 01:52:14
Comments:
Sunny; i recall, it was nice, you sounded sweet, young... I'd love to jog on the sand with you. But I am old, could hardly make it down to my job this morning. Tell Lisa I'll try again with those pictures of Don.
Geena; what seems to be is always better than nothing. And thanks for the Chicken soup.
Ruby; that recipe is a must for Pat's cookbook!
Musician, sep 1993;
MUSICIAN: On Kamakiriad the grooves have much more pure R&B in them.
FAGEN: I was researching records at the time of the New York Rock and Soul Revue. I was looking for a more aggressive feel. I had a lot of control because I was building the tracks with a sequencer, like a mechanical model. I could create these beats that a drummer would not normally play. I was very careful about the groove. I'd run everything through delays and kinda play around with it until I got everything really relaxed. Then I'd show that to the drummer, and then he'd...
BECKER; ...fall to the ground weaping uncontrollably.
Name: Schwinn
security
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 00:55:50
Comments:
Steviedan: "On the First Day" was a nice call. "God's Monkey" is as strident as it gets.
"My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" by Eno and Byrne is still amazing considering it was recorded way before digital had its way. "Help Me Somebody" will run charges up anybody's back. (Fans of early sampling should check this out).
Still, "Strange Cargo" by William Orbit is a must. It's old and perhaps a little too familiar to some, but if you haven't heard it you should.
Also, anything by Future Sounds of London.
EZ Listnin'SEMB
Name: Stephen Barlag
barlag@juno.com
Location: North Richland Hills, TX USA
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 22:23:03
Comments:
This cat's got the eye. Call it pirate radar, scoping out the room for some trim. But there's nobody new, so she zeros in on you.
Name: Stephen Barlag
barlag@juno.com
Location: North Richland Hills, TX USA
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 22:15:20
Comments:
This cat's got the eye. Call it pirate radar, scoping out the room for some trim. But there's nobody new, so she zeros in on you.
Name: Mock Turtle
jrsevers@students.wisc.edu
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 22:13:21
Comments:
Hell, it's drinkin' time, everybody!
MT
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 21:01:06
Comments:
Overheard at the Hall of F(Sh)ame...
The word of the *generous* offer by Walter and Donald to *donate* some used recording equipment used by Dan to the Hall has reached the top. Let's say, you have their ear and your site is bookmarked.
Also, hypothetically speaking of course, IF a new restuarant was to open in the Hall, at a time that just might coincide with the induction of two of America's greatest composers, what name would be appropriate? Sign in on this one, strangers...
Working Overtime (remember Tollesfon last year?),
maj©
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 20:45:24
Comments:
Ruby Baby - D'uh, you lost me on your "all I ask of you" salutation to moi, on your recent posting. Give me a hint, won't you? Or am I so clueless, I don't rate one? Anyway, your love of Kamikiriad's "Tomorrow's Girls" is not lost on me. It has that great line, "a virus wearing pumps and pearls," to describe them. Leave it to DF to come up with an image that is right out of an episode of X Files. I have a weakness for "On the Dunes" and "Teahouse on the Tracks." Two diverse tracks but again, music and lyrics which send me into an advanced state of escapism to the very surroundings conjured up in those songs. But on "Nightly," back to back he gives us the very jazzy "Goodbye Look," followed by "Walk Between the Raindrops," which sounds like it came out of a lounge in the basement of some hotel with Hawaiin decor. The organ solo is a sound that is almost forgotten. I always get off on a tangent when "Nightfly" and "Kamikiriad" are brought up.
Time to watch more Olympics.
Name: Sunny
@stoney.trace
Location: Smoking heavily, with the "Cabin Girl"
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 20:14:34
Comments:
Hi Clas--
How I have longed to hear your sensuous voice again. Do you recall our brief conversation? I felt electricly alive while we were speaking, as if your energy surrounded my entire body. I can see by the previous post that you are already involved in a tryst with Geena. Don't let me intrude, but I would enjoy receiving a response from you in the near future.
S.
Name: RubyBaby
Let's St@y Together
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 20:05:23
Comments:
WannaBeRockCritic(whoever you are): You da MAN! I am the proud and happy owner of Tribute To Jeff. It makes me want to have a party!Fez0North: I was just joshin' ya, but how does a Dan Fan not like the Nightfly even just a little? Among the solo projects, I think it's the most SteelyDan-ish of them all. Just look at the cast of musicians...
minorWorld: I knew you were home the other day when the cows stopped howling and resumed their gentle mooing. Welcome home!
Got milk?
rb
Name: Geena
throughtheloop
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 19:44:41
Comments:
Fez Chick:
Where have you been sistah? I haven't read a post from you in a long time!
I've been home with a germ that Clas must have passed on to me...
only kidding Clas! really....just kidding...a little joke...very small....
Name: FezChick
continuing . . .
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 19:19:21
Comments:
Aaaaajaaaa - when all my dime dancing is through
I run to youuuuuhoooo!
Name: sillydan
fox@channel2
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 16:33:33
Comments:
Skinner:"Agent Mulder can I see you in my office....bring your headphones...."
Name: steviedan
uc berkeley.com
Location: sillydan-101,
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 16:28:48
Comments:
Hank: if you search you might find 'Gone To Earth' in the import bin...that was Sylvian and Fripp circa 1986 ....very cerebral...might need a good pipe of hash to enjoy the full ambiance.....pop music for people who spend too much time in libraries......
tv show idea...::how 'bout getting Fagen and Becker to guest on the X Files???!!!....Mulder:"Scully it's an import copy of the Royal Scam....with a different version of 'Sign in Stranger..."
Scully: "What are you saying Mulder...that aliens have altered the master tapes to Steely Dan's albums...??".....Mulder:"Wait a minute...wasn't Skinner seen whistling 'Rikki Don't Lose That Number'???"
Name: On a tram
to Club Hi Ho
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 14:44:46
Comments:
Chiiiiineeese music always sets me free...
Name: Hank Silvers
between the losers and the lost
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 13:38:16
Comments:
Prof Stevie: Will have to give Fripp/Sylvian another try. Jean the Birdman (heard on Phillly's 'XPN) was the reason I snapped it off the Used pile at CD World, but despite several listens, haven't gotten the rest of it. Yet, anyway.
Minah: Yes, it is a catchy tune. Glad you don't mind it (much) looping around up there. You might try replacing it with Something Good.
St. Al: Nice start on the cookbook. Keep going.
Oleander: Impressions aren't my strong suit, but I am impressed. (Burma Shave doggerel and bawdy limericks are about all I can recite.) Now, speaking of the Rev. Dodgson, will you won't you join the dance?
A random thought: Six Degrees of Donald Fagen -- any specialists on the subject out there? Any takers?
Name: Prof. Steviedan
stephen@yogajournal.com
Location: peets coffee, CA
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 12:00:38
Comments:
Schwinn: glad to see someone else into Sylvian and Fripp....Sylvian's stuff with Japan is kind of like a darker extension of some of Steely Dan's themes....a darker cerebral version of China Crisis....that Sylvian/Fripp album (First Day [virgin 1993]) is one of the best albums of the '90's......Becker's solo lp reminds me a bit of Sylvian......the Dolphin Brothers also have a great sound.........
re: 'Dan jazz connections part 345....that Deodato lp, 'Live At the Felt Forum' features a stellar version of 'Do It Again' with Jack Dejohnette on drums!! and Ron Carter on bass!...and Airto on percussion....ah those were the days......1973...Steely Dan, The Mets...Watergate...Stealers Wheel....
Name: ashadow
ashadow@hotmail.com
Location: London, UK
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 10:50:16
Comments:
"...chineeeese music always sets meeee freee, angular banjo sounds good to meeeeee..."
Name: Cindy Thompson
cindy191@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 05:06:42
Comments:
Two radio stations here in New York play SD while giving the local traffic report. WNEW plays East St. Louis Toodle-oo and WPLJ plays DF's version of Ruby Baby.
Name: Schwinn
not@chance
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 20:18:57
Comments:
JCD
In between the comets and the planetary conjunctions I like to plug-in to William Orbit's "Strange Cargo". Eno, Fripp and Sylvian are stellar as well. Any quasars I should know about?
Uh Huh
Name: Geena
Greenflower Street, Beacon Hill
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 19:36:33
Comments:
John Henry:
glad you like Beacon Hill!...i don't when you were last here...but it's changed a lot...it's gotten better and safer! I really don't live on Beacon Hill (i work there), but i wish i had to the money to live there...
thanks for the info on Jenny Muldaur..i just thought if DF had anything to do with it, it might be worth listening to...maybe i'll go to "CD Now" and see if it's available to sample.
Clas:
Thanks for giving me whatever you have! I'm home sick now!!
Name: Aja
SIERRALUNA@prodigy.net
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 18:49:16
Comments:
Prof.Steviedan,
I guess Barrytown was just easier for Donald to sing (and I would guess it avoids some nasty legal problems too).
Aja
Name: Prof.Steviedan
stevev@jps.net
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 15:15:46
Comments:
re: 'Barrytown' ; hey John maybe they missed spelled Tarrytown???
Name: Wanna be rock critic
@ where ever you want me to be
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 14:51:34
Comments:
Ok RubyBaby,
TRIBUTE TO JEFF- David Garfield and friends play Tribute to Jeff Porcaro
Boz sings a Dylan song, and his version of Low Down is covered with new arragments by Donald Fagen!...So there RubyBaby (how am I doin' so far?)
Steely Dan helped make Jeff Porcaro a house hold name in the music biz., and for that reason alone a Dan fan should own this cd!
BTW Ruby, it comes with a great booklet lotsa pictures
Name: fezonorth
ekg.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 13:36:04
Comments:
fezchick (no relation): I've always thought "Babylon Sister" was just word play referring to a girl who kept running on and on at the mouth and that "shake it" refers to the high school standby, handjobs.
ruby: i think you may be right; my dislike of Nightfly stems from inferior audio equipment. So far I've only heard it on a scratchy second hand lp played on a ten-year-old turntable still featuring its original needle. I resolve to get Nightfly on CD soon.
lisa: i too live in a cabin in the woods. it's a rustic, mellow life, ain't it. Alas the real world has intervened and my drive south for a smokedown will have to be delayed. My doctor informs me that a six of Bud and a pipe a day is bad for the ole ticker. who'd have thought?
fezo
Name: Aja
sierraluna@juno.com or SIERRALUNA@prodigy.net
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 13:21:09
Comments:
Scurvy Brother Brian - Welcome.
StAl - checked out your cookbook so far, that's cute.
Aja
Name: John henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 13:09:37
Comments:
Steviedan, so I guess you think the fact that there is a town called Barrytown right next door to Bard College is just a coincidence, right??!
Name: steviedan
Bezerkeley,CA
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 12:15:35
Comments:
re: Porcaro tribute is by Dave Garfield on Zebra Records...it is all right.....and does include a track with Denny Dias...and there are instrumental versions of 'Black Friday' and 'Babylon sisters'
Brian: re; 'Barrytown'..... is actually about Tarrytown, NY....home of a large Moonie enclave...(i.e. "Barrytown people got to be from another world....", contrary to how Brian Sweet interpreted the song in his 1994 book...
re: Goldmine Magazine : Anybody out there have a copy of the Goldmine issue from Jan.1993 with Steely Dan on the cover??? will pay/trade handsomely
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 11:23:06
Comments:
Checking the box......
Name: minah
khillman@lightspeed.net
Location: Back in Cowtown,
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 10:05:39
Comments:
Hey gang, back avoiding work after 10 days of, um, avoiding work...
So (Loosely) on the subject of '11TOW memorability', one of a couple Hawaiian Dan moments: Had a rental 4-wheel drive Jeep on a trip to Lanai which we took down to 'Shipwreck Beach'(just a little irony in THAT name). Suffice to say that my brother's navigation quickly turned said vehicle into a 3-wheel drive (he cut a corner and bent the rim). So, we're 12 miles from civilization, no hammer to bend the rim back, and one lug on the tire is stripped so the jack is useless. To his credit, while I'm beating on the rim with a rock, my brother heads up the road and finds a local guy fishing on his day off. This guy is 'preparation incarnate' : tools, portable air compressor, the works. We pound the rim back, the tire holds air, and we're back in business - but this guy won't take money, so I ask for his name and address thinking I'll send him some cow paraphernalia for his trouble. When he hands me his name, its Stanley - and my mind kicks into that groove couplet from 11TOW's Medical Science: "My man Stanley..."...Stanley comes through...
Olyander:
Thanks for the splee check...I mean spell chuck.JGM: Goods received. Big Thanks, man.
Maj©: Check that Filbert Box, brother.
Ruby: You can send them pies anlong any ol' time.
Lester: Hey man, good to see you around, Visalia digs the 13 as well.
Hank: Yeah, I kinda have a love-hate thing with Jabberwocky, too. Thanks for putting that back on my brain's play-list...now it won't go away...
Zeke: Happy Phat Tuesday (isn't this what the kids say these days?).
The good news: This lengthy post is almost over.
The bad news: I'm outta vacation 'till August.
mW
Name: RubyBaby
cotton c@ndy
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 09:29:12
Comments:
Wanabe Rock Critic: What's the name of that tribute to Jeff Porcaro cd on which M.McDonald sings is @ off and the drumming is outstanding and Boz is all over that one song? Would like to check this DanFan Must.Fezchick: I think a Babylon Sister is a member of the Oldest Profession. She will shake anything - for a price. If she's adept, she will get you to believe this is no one night stand; it's a Real occasion. Close your eyes and you'll be there...
Ever play it?
rb
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 07:03:20
Comments:
Hi geena from Beecon Hill, one of my favorite places in the world!!!
On that Jenny Muldaur album, no, Don F. was not the producer of it. He did do something for it like arrange the horns for one song or some'n like that. It's an OK CD, it came out about four or 5 years ago I think. Hard to find now.
Name: Brian Vick
bvick@airnet.net
Location: Florence, AL United States
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 22:23:40
Comments:
Hey just browsing with my book of numbers and my remedies. One of
these surely will screen out the sorrow and I will Home at Last
tomorrow.By the way, what is wrong with BarryTown?
The Scurvy Brother.
Name: steelyduck
steelyduck@aol.com
Location: fairfield, ct usa
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 20:10:51
Comments:
If anyone hears from my Louise, won't you tell her I love her so?
Name: StAl
webmaster@pageboy.net
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 13:07:30
Comments:
The Cookbook in its infancy:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/recipes/
Name: bottomlevel,borrow4money,buddieandpal
therapy@home
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 07:29:04
Comments:
What a wonderful day! I feel as if my burdens have been lifted
and the dogs have set me free. Online therapy of the Dan's Mankind, aka; misery loves company, works for me.
..Blossoming amoure across the land lines, open for all to see.
..Mental anguish and dark contorted figments stab at the unweary.
..The curious look on and imagine the other side of themselves that perhaps they may, one day, choose to explore.
..The congregation here, afterall, there is comfort in numbers.
enjoy your current state
Name: Zeke
lurking
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 07:01:28
Comments:
Thought I would stop by today. Just wanted to drop a note about the '98 Jazz Fest in New Orleans. Some of the shows
will be onsale this morning. I don't have a complete schedule,
but I hear Dan Alumni Michael McDonald and the Doobs will
show. More, later.St. Al: Cookbook? Excellent idea. You have my South LA. input.
Later.
Name: FEZCHICK
So fine - so young
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 04:13:06
Comments:
What exactly is a "BABYLON SISTER" and why do they "shake it"?
My daughter and I love the song, but we would like it more if we knew just exactly we were singing about.
Please advise.
Name: JCD
n@ked.lunch.com
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 03:10:37
Comments:
Any hypotheses as to the sexual preferences of ye olde D&W? Their name being taken from a Burroughs novel, it's hard to imagine them as homophobes. Just curious as to whether or not there is speculation re: collaboration-say, in the bedroom between the team of two?
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 00:42:06
Comments:
Lisa; Samantha too? Where have these girls been all my life?
...everybody here's a number, not a name/But I guess that's all right with me...
Name: JCD
n@ked.lunch.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 20:56:23
Comments:
Just wondering if any hardcore Danfans besides me have made forays into exploring the world of electronica. Of course this does not mean the Mtv Amp CD. I mean true underground stuff, junglism or holy breaks. UK goods, Danny Bukem and Sasha, John Digweed, Electric Skychurch, Mu-Ziq, the Metalheadz junglists, Photek, Goldie... etcetera. I don't know why it appeals to me so much, but I find that if I'm not listening to the Dan I want to her some musically complex soulless data spewed forth by some mad programmer behind his 15k Yamaha setup. I would highly reccommend for any Danfan the "LTJ Bukem presents: _Logical_Progression_" album. So maybe I'm gonna get flamed by a bunch of purists but whatever. My friend that are all into general rock music mock the hell out of me all the time. They're the kind of folks who have SD albums because they hear it sometimes on the classic rock station. Anyway, that's my query. It's a fine workd, the rave world. Keeps me rollin.....
Name: Dave
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Annandale, NY Estados Unidos
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 16:33:27
Comments:
Lester, no I live in Annandale, NY, since '68. We communicated about two years ago. Do you remember? I was in CA at the time.
You are a guitarist, as I remember. I love the keys. I can't help it. I play, hours, and hours, on no end. Some of the Dan chords, I like. I could recommend others. But, if only asked.
D.
Name: Lester the Nightfly
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 16:24:02
Comments:
By the way, any 13 chord is beautiful. I don't know of a page for musicians to converse, but there are some sites with SD chord progressions which are a great deal more accurate than what you'll find in published sheet music. Are you really from Barrytown, Dave? I'm always game for SD chord and solo deciphering conversation. CC73647@aol.com.
Name: Lester the Nightfly
CC73647@aol.com
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 16:10:03
Comments:
I just got 11 Tracks, and I'm sorry to say that I just don't like it very much. Kamakiriad is undoubtedly superior, and Nightfly takes them both. I'd love a new album, but I'm dying for a tour. Anyone please let me know of facts, rumors, or leaks from Kenneth Starr's office about a
tour. I think I just realized what "I'm gonna dig myself a hole/ Gonna lay down in it 'til I satisfy my soul" is referring to. I knew I loved these guys for a reason.Love to you all
Lester
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 14:51:53
Comments:
After a month of surveying your opinion on which GB format should stay, it's just about unanimous. The results are:
Old stlye guestbook= 16
New style guestbook= 69I am a little surprised actually. I really thought most would favor the old stlye. Shows you what I know. Thanks for the input!
I was in chat with Mr. Whatever last night and he came up with a fabulous suggestion. A Steely Dan(fan) Cookbook.
Stay tuned for the details....
CLAS: Got a good meatball recipe?
Andy: RE 11TOW -- Spin it at LEAST 2 or 3 more times. TOok me about a half dozen listenings before I fully appreciated it. Now, I listen to it quite frequently.
Name: Roy.Scam
arguing in chem class
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 13:24:18
Comments:
Hydrogen and oxygen are both great elements. H2O is a great mixture. So what if it's a little more H than O? It wouldn't be water (or even wet) without O. The 'whole vs sum of its parts' argument is misleading and moot.-----To those of you who, astonishingly, don't think 11TOW is a great album: You have a right to your opinion, but you deserve better.
RS
Name: Geena
Beacon Hill
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 11:19:14
Comments:
Has anyone heard of an album by Jenny Muldaur?
It was supposedly produced by DF (or at least that's what I hear) and i was wondering if anyone has heard it..what they think...Should i bother buying it...etc.
I'm sure if you're all such devoted SD fans..maybe someone could help me out here?!?!?!....please...
Name: Mock Turtle
jrsevers@students.wisc.edu
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 09:27:31
Comments:
Andy Gravity: I don't know about the other stuff (Danfans are few and far between here in Madison), but I have quickly learned that here on the GB, one doesn't offer any negative criticism (constructive or otherwise) on any SD or SD-related CD if they know what's good for them. Now, if you must trade 11TOW in, then do so; Kamakiriad is the superior album. But, why not hang on to 11TOW AND Kamakiriad? It shouldn't be an either/or situation.
Joe M.: Thanks for the FM answer. I just noticed it.
Name: lisa
close your eyes @nd slip away
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 08:57:06
Comments:
ole: glad to see the consensus...you know, we carolina sd girls need to stick together! i wondered if you meet many fans in asheville? it is pathetically barren of loyals here in pinehurst.
clas: chatting was super swell, but please explain how you managed to get samantha to fall in love with you?! must be something about the way you typed...i believe i'll be listening to bruce all day now...
"every little kiss..."
Name: C
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 04:49:05
Comments:
DUDES4; E13 is a lousy chord. If you wanne talk chords, stick to B11, C/F, G/C, Em. You know, like Dr Wu.
Lisa; nice chat in the chatroom yesterday! You are funny!
the sun sinks low over all around,
c
Name: Andy Gravity
toohe@vy
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 04:07:11
Comments:
As a new "Dan Convert" I was wondering...what's expected of me? How do we recognize each other? Is there a special hand shake or uniform? Where should I shop? Eat? Is there a coffee blend I should know about? I feel wearing a Steely Dan t-shirt would run counter to the whole scene but correct me if I'm wrong. Am I supposed to like TOW? I bought it and listened to it twice and still don't like the energy. Should I listen to it a third time or trade it in for Kamakiriad?
Up & Down
AG
Name: Wanabe Rock Critic
telling it like it is
Location: Chitown, Il.
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 03:01:34
Comments:
About that tribute to Jeff Porcaro cd:It's very L.A. It has a cheesy jazz feel to it on some of the songs, but overall it's worth getting. McDonald sings his ass off (never heard him sound better!) Will Lee is great on the Hendrix tune
"If 6 were 9", Boz is all over it and the aray of drummers is outstanding.Check it out!...A must for any Dan fan.
Name: kayugakid
kayuagakid@aol.com
Location: like the name, ny RW&B
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 23:18:01
Comments:
Been enjoying the page for several months.
A true fan since the beginning in upstate thru
h.s., college , kids,career,and now middle age.
truly a serious and devoted freak
D&W kept me insane thru it all.
you name it I got it and been there
enjoy!
Name: Dudes4
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Barrytown, NY U.S.
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 22:39:43
Comments:
To Whom: Does anyone know of a site where talk is D11, D maj7, chords, Fmaj7, E13? Specifically related to 'Steely Dan?' Like another language? A/B, Edim7, etcetera? I would be interested. Entries limited to two lines, just chords? Anyone know of a site like this? Lyrics can just be personal jokes between fellow musicians. Dave.
Name: Dudes4
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Barrytown, NY U.S.
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 22:37:27
Comments:
To Whom: Does anyone know of a site where talk is D11, D maj7, chords, Fmaj7, E13? Specifically related to 'Steely Dan?' Like another language? A/B, Edim7, etcetera? I would be interested. Entries limited to two lines, just chords? Anyone know of a site like this? Lyrics can just be personal jokes between fellow musicians. Dave.
Name: Mr. Whatever
FrugalGourmet.com
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 15:48:16
Comments:
St.Al,
Just a few ideas for the new project:
1. salads and sun
2. pure confections
3. good and ripe pride
4. bones and pitchers
5. hurled worldPerhaps a gardening section would be nice.
Name: MJ Mecca
mmecca@snet.net
CT USA
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 15:37:32
Comments:
The busy world was not for me so I went and found my own.
Name: clas
shit
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 09:58:21
Comments:
Lisa, read your email!
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 08:45:31
Comments:
Keith Jarett, Horace Silvers, Kinkys Posters and let us not forget Kurt Weills Glamour Profession.
RUNE; be cool. If you play your cards right you gonna end up singing.
MAJ-nothing; Arizona Sky? Well, that´s always better than nothing.
Geena; thanks. Chicken soup maybe? In the way Ruby's doing it. Nothing else will do!
Lisa; well, turtle, I don't like the idea. I think we should let the Turtle be around. However, your thoughts on Fagen - Becker was very well put. But IF I had to make a choice, I´d go for Becker. I love his lyrics. And then I come to think of At Centurys End, The Nightfly.
No, no choice can be made. And no choice has to be made.
c
Name: Geena
northeast froze again
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 08:08:02
Comments:
hi lisa!
nice to meet you...make sure you put the real thing in his soup!
Name: RUNE
vegart@online.no
Norge
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 06:50:26
Comments:
Where the hell am I?
Name: justafreak
here4anotherday
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 06:20:27
Comments:
You think no tomorrow will come when you lay down, ...I must have
been mistaken.
Name: oleander
east asheville toodle-oo
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 23:27:17
Comments:
Roy--I'm starting my research junket tomorrow. Will let you know if I find any botanical refutations. BTW, glad people stood up for, & you found, NYR&SR. It kicks, and I'll bet you get as many nostalgic grins as I do.
Mr La--yes, synergy; just what hit me when I read Pynchon's "Mason & Dixon" last summer. Over years of listening to their respective solo works, I have a much better sense of what each brings, and it's essential. I've heard/read some crap over the years about SD being Mr. Fagen, with Mr. Becker just along for the ride--taint so. Very much a yin-yang, interdependent entity, Feckenbager or Faker-Begen. And after reading "M & D" I was hit with profound admiration for a relationship that is so close, so longlasting, and which has produced & nurtured such incredible offspring.
Hankers--Wow! "Jabberwocky" incidentally is the only poem I can recite by heart. (You may do a Johnny Carson now)
GKR--There are some--"cringemaker" comes to mind.
lisa--I am absolutely in your camp about "Kama," "NF," and "11TOW." Great words, sum my feelings up precisely.
Joe--Don't know. Just read in the Digest that a recent pic showed Bela Fleck with Roger Nichols. Could that be what he's doing instead of the Dan??
Mithta Thtew--You betcha! Try again at oleander1@earthlink.net. BTW, I have a patient with an SS tattoo--and a few others in the genre. I never ask him about them.
Beware the Jubjub bird and shun the frumious Bandersnatch....
Name: lisa
@bout to kill off a 1/5
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 21:16:11
Comments:
clas: you are sick? i'm sorry you don't feel well, hon...i made some turtle soup earlier today, if you are interested.
btw, hi geena.
Name: Geena
onthedunes
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 21:02:04
Comments:
ok..i know i don't get many responses to my posts, but i do have an important question to ask:
has anyone heard an album by Jenny Muldaur? It was supposedly produced by DF (or at least that's what I hear) and i was wondering if anyone has heard it..what they think...
Clas: i'm sorry to hear you're sick...maybe you can get one of your girlfriends to make you some soup...that is...if they know how...i hope you feel better soon.
Name: Mike Kelley
DICCBLIND@AOL.COM
Location: Dallas, TX
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 21:01:32
Comments:
The Dan was the greatest live spectacle I've ever experienced!
Name: Roy.Scam
NewYorkrock&soulstateofmind
VA
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 20:44:05
Comments:
Saw Skunk Baxter on the news tonight. He was doing a guest appearance at a U. S. Treasury auction of some type. It seemed that they were auctioning off guitars that had belonged to Federal prisoners; but I didn't catch the whole story. Did anyone else see it? Skunk sounded good playing some incarcerate's Fender. Looked good too; Still had about four pounds of mustache.
Thanks to Dr Mu, StevieDan, Pignose, maj, and Hank S for the tips on the peripherally Dan material. I went down to my local record store (obviously not a Waterloo's) to buy myself a V-day present. Among the things they didn't have were: Far Cry, China Crisis, Michael Frank's Blue Pacific, Eye to Eye, Rosie Vela, and the Rikki Lee Jones album with "The Horses". They had one copy of NYR&SR. I'm listening to it now; Phoebe Snow's hitting some notes that would have intimidated Minnie Ripperton. "At Last", the old Etta James song, is worth the cost of the record.---I saw, but didn't get, the Porcaro tribute album that had practically every Steely Dan session buddy I could think of. Has anyone heard this one?
Oleander--How's that New York City? I heard from an expert that oleanders don't grow in NY.
Vicariously Groovin' w/ Eddie, Mike & Don,
RS
Name: Slimmy
southofokl@hom@
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 19:55:40
Comments:
Every city should be blessed with an independent record store like the one we have in Austin: Waterloo Records. (It's mentioned in this month's Rolling Stone). Not only will you find "The New York Rock and Soul Revue" stocked 5 deep, but probably a used copy of Michael Frank's "Blue Pacific" for $4.99. No kidding. It's a candystore for musicos. Vinyl too.
Name: Mock Turtle
Knows.when.he's.be@ten
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 15:51:55
Comments:
Looking forward to the new album! Thanks, MrLP, for your synergy point. Well put.
On the topic of the new album, I understand they teasingly played some stuff from it while on tour. How did the songs sound? Anyone?
Respectfully crawling into my shell,
MT
Name: RubyBaby
please p@ss the whup @ss
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 14:41:09
Comments:
Ohhh Anthonyyyyyyy? - Did you blow out my candles? And where do you think you're taking us that we haven't been before? Is there a New Frontier?Lieutenant Worf, Mook Gah Tah!! (translated: Get your hairy butt over there and re-light those candles!)
RazorBoy - Now that you mention it, the diversity within Nightfly and Kamakiriad is one of the best parts. I just got Kama a few weeks ago, so I'm still soaking it up. So far, I like Tomorrow's Girls best.
and RazorBoy - all I ask of you...
rb
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 13:56:05
Comments:
It is great to see the pages of the Banyan Trees back to some truly reflective Steely Dan musings. Things were getting a little strung out there in late summer, and fall. " Kamikiriad" and "Nightfly" were great albums because of their diversity, not just between the two efforts, but within each one. Several artists seem to have a common hook in most tracks within one album but "Kamiriad" and "Nightfly" don't seem to fall into that pattern. The new release is much anticipated, but for me, who has never seen them in concert, I hope a tour is being considered
Ruby Baby - How did you know I was a pushover for amber brew? By the shimmer of 50 candles, and our enigmatic heroes providing inspiration with, say, "Rose Darling," it would be tough not to hunker down on a Sunday afternoon with some cold mugs of "Sam Adams," or "Catamount" and enjoy the ensuing glow.
"Ruby Dahling, draw me another pint of that fine amber lager."
Name: MrLP
@thanks
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 13:21:40
Comments:
Dr Mu: Synergy. Pretty accurate corporate lingo for SD.
Aja: Gestalt just about does the trick. Maybe I'm thinking more along the lines of the noun equivalent for an adjective like "whup-ass."
Name: Aja
diction@ry help
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 12:57:07
Comments:
fezo - I agree with you about WB's poetic lyrics, "Electrons dancing in the frozen crystal dawn", is one of my favs as well. I don't know what it means but it sounds lovely.
Of course as much as I love SD, the solo works of DF and WB are indispensible. Sometimes I must hear the positive optomism of "I.G.Y.", others the gritty realism of "Junkie Girl". There is a time for each. Unfortunatly, I'm not too familar with their work beyond that combination of availability and budget, but I hear that jazz buffs really enjoy "NYR&SR" and "Glengarry Glen Ross".
Mr. LP - the word you are looking for is Gestalt.
Dr. Mu - synergy (working in cooperation; a united action of different agents... producing a freater effect thatn the sum of the various individual actions) is also an appropriate word for the general perceived partnership of DF & WB.
Which begs the question, "What's the diff?"
Aja
Name: RubyBaby
kanga1776@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 12:13:09
Comments:
Fez0North: Mr. Stewart said that in extreme cold even his car radio sounds like tin. And his upholstry is hard & uncomfy. Could it be that you are hearing the Nightfly from cold stereo equiptment and sitting on a tack or something? That might account for some things...Oleander: How can I hack back such a beautiful weed? Can't I just enjoy it's colors and look out for the pipes some other way?
I promise not to chew the flowers!Clas: get better & rest up!
Anyone: Where does one get the NY Sound Review? I can't find it anywhere! What a tease...
rb
Name: DrMu
Not Your Scott Adams
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 11:45:18
Comments:
MrLP: shhh! the password is synergy....
Roy: RUN don't walk and score NYR&SR review. Recorded in the Beacon Theater circa 1991 it features Mr. Fagen, Michael McDonald, Boz Scaggs, Phoebe Snow, Charles Brown and the Brigattis (Rascals). It's beautifully recorded by Elliot Schiener with a knock your socks off version of Pretzel Logic. Excellent performances by Zingg, Jeff Young etc. (not quite up to the '93 AiA cuts but close) and a super clean crisp sound...as good as it gets for a live recording.
Also recommended is CC's Diary of a Hollow Horse. I've mentioned this before, but WB's production of 3 cuts on Michael Franks' Blue Pacific are transcendent. Beasley, Parks, and Sheppard sound great. There are a couple of other songs on Blue Pacific produced by Tony LiPuma with Carlton and Sample that are sonic ear candy.
Name: lisa
got broth--@ll i need is me@t
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 09:46:03
Comments:
mock turtle: you're kind of mouthy for a soup ingredient! just to set the record straight, i am quite selective about the music i expose myself to...why are you asking? do you assume that i don't have the good taste to weed out the fodder? if that's the case, you underestimate me sir.
a real texas twister,
lisa
Name: MrLP
@a loss
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 09:42:42
Comments:
Martin & Lewis. Vinegar & Oil. Harding & Kerrigan. Madonna & Child. What's the word I'm looking for? (help me out Roy and Oleander) Sometimes there are two things that, if considered individually, do not amount to a hill of beans (or rice). As a separate entity, each item is just okay, nothing too special. Together, however, they take on a new meaning where the total is greater than the sum of the parts.
Name: Mock Turtle
D@mn.colduphere
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 08:26:42
Comments:
Fezo: You're absolutely right; "Snowbound" does sound like SD at its best. And notice that it's the only song on Kama co-written by The Two.
Lisa: Is there any music you DON'T like?
Even if I'm not the biggest fan of 11TOW, I recognize that Walt is equally vital to the creation of SD's music. I'm not claiming he has a lack of talent. He did exactly what he set out to do with 11TOW: minimalist lyrics over a minimalist music track. Perhaps he needed to get it out of his system. Perhaps I'm being unfair by comparing it to SD.
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 03:14:45
Comments:
OLEANDER (Scarla O´Horror); Hey! You better not be droppin silver dollars on the floor like that, the GuestBook be going bankrup.
Stewart; Ice Hotel? Never!
Name: lisa
gettin' off@funway.west
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 22:15:45
Comments:
my dear mr. fez: you are more than welcome to come and join me
for an old-fashioned smokedown...two things i never run short on:
weed and big, fluffy towels...i prefer an endica/sativa hybrid for bong hits...as for the towels, i use rainfresh bleach and loads of fabric softener...they are exquisite!but, my dear man...you don't like the nightfly?! perhaps you have yet to listen to it in the proper context...contrary to what you have imagined, i live in a cabin several miles in the woods (thankfully, i am far from the tedium of the golf courses)... nightfly is the perfect complement for an evening with "the cabin girl"...maybe i can coerce you into giving it a second listen? (redeeming factor: your taste regarding kama is infallible... snowbound is my absolute favorite track!)
as for the much anticipated pics...i would be willing to call in a few favors with the big guys to get my hands on those risque shots...if all else fails, i can always do a sweeping gesture with the magic wand and make it all better...let me know if you require my assistance, okay?
******************************************
mr.lapage: thank you for co-defending 11tow...while i can see your take if i squint really hard, i have to say that i differ on one major point...while i did find a familiarity embedded in walter's music, i found it comforting and well-suited to me...his voice is smoky and sensual, and the lyrics are the summation of the darker side of life.fits like a glove my friend.
Name: Anthony
@his bar and grill
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 20:17:01
Comments:
Blowing out the candles.
"Ensign Crusher, Engage!"
Name: Pignose
looking for a job
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 18:05:14
Comments:
Feznorth - you don't like The Nightfly? I think its time for you to retire!Roy Scam & Lucky H. - Forget about China C. Rosie V. and Eye To Eye. You want "Danish"?, there was a group called Far Cry (1980-81?) They used all the great Steely sideman from the 70's and had great songs, great hooks and to boot, had Donald playing keyboards and singing back ground vocals on a tune.
This is by far the BEST Dan related stuff that ever came out!!....good luck in trying to find it.
Name: steviedancrisis
stevev@jps.net
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 15:47:35
Comments:
albums that 'Dan fans might like
Re: China crisis......if you like those two albums they did w/Becker you will also like 'Warped By Success' (import 1993) which was re-issued as 'Wishful Thinking' in 1997.....
North of A Miracle-Nick Heyward (Arista)- 1983 effort produced by Geoff Emerick.....nice horns...good vocals.......
Tropical Gangsters- Kid Creole (ZE/sire)....1982...latin pop done with a great sense of humour and Manhattan hipness
Radio Musicola- Nik Kershaw (MCA)....funky bubblegum pop with great lyrics anf horns.....a voice like Stevie Wonder........etc
Name: goodkingrichard
on th@ hill... you know I will
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 15:09:50
Comments:
When Black Friday (13th?) comes...
John Henry: I guess it's a case of what's the catch? The 'Nightfly' reference was, in part, due to 'High Fidelity'. But, it's also based on personal experience, of which less said the better. However, I do think it's more immediately accessible (commercial?) to someone with a Top40 ear. That said, I got hooked through 'Katy Lied', and I think 'Aja' and 'Gaucho' might also be an easier listen to the unitiated. Just lent a compilation tape to a young co-worker trainee (Billy Joel fan! what could I do?) who had no awareness of SD. I had made this tape for personal consumption and it had tracks from pre-SD and YGTWILYTI through to AIA and 11ToW, so I wasn't expecting a huge reaction... she just wanted to know what the hell I was on about all the time. Not quite a convert yet, but she liked the stuff from Gaucho and Nightfly. Conversely, my missus is much more tollerant of my SD excesses since she got hooked on 11ToW.
Ole: "Itampian" it is! - surprising D&W havn't created more neologisms... or maybe they have and I haven't noticed.
Have a safe Friday all, and a great w/e.
Richard&kangaroos
Name: fezonorth
e'onesacritic.com
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 14:54:03
Comments:
Am I the only one out here who doesn't like Nightfly that much? Except for the title cut and I.G.Y., I just don't get it. It's real uneven and some cuts seem like filler.
On the other hand, Kamakariad and 11TOW rule. "Snowbound" sounds like SD at its best and the first two tracks are great traveling music. Zowie, it's Connie Lee. And "Book of Liars" is fascinating lyrically. "Electrons dancing in the frozen crystal dawn" will forever be my screensaver at work.
lisa: thanks for the bonghit invite. 29 south beckons. don't be surprised if i pull up to your palatial estate off the sixteenth green with a stoner smile on my face and bags of Doritos in each hand. Alas, you might have to wait awhile for the toweling off pics. Apparently the local sherrif has foreclosed on the Fotomat where I dropped the film off. I got a call from one of his deputies telling me to come on down to the jail to pick up the prints. I sense trouble. Can your secret squirrel powers get me out of this one?
fezo
Name: Hank Silvers
c/o Hugo Spaak
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 10:40:53
Comments:
Roy.Scam: Quick Read Album Notes:
China Crisis - Flaunt the Imperfection: Recommended. Hummable, bouncy tunes. Pleasantly obscure lyrics. Doing more with less -- influenced WB's own CD.
China Crisis - Diary of a Hollow Horse: Reunited WB and CC for most tracks. Not surprisingly, those are the better ones. Entire CD is worth acquiring, though.
Eye to Eye - Shakespeare Stole My Baby: Perfectly good musically. Not particularly fine lyrically. Not obscure, just silly. Historic value only.
-- Hank S.
"Hey Jabberwocky, you're a real cool cat/
You got a lot of this and a lot of that." -- Eye to Eye, "Jabberwocky"
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 10:26:24
Comments:
RoyScam: I'm fond of China Crisis' Flaunt The Imperfection. Haven't heard the second one Walter produced for them a few years later. The album with Arizona Sky was a nice try to reproduce the Walter influence but without the substance....kinda like when Clas posts as Walter on this guestbook.
"you gotta walk it just like you talk it or ya know you're gonna lose that beat....Yeahhhhh!"
Lucky: Damn! Figured out the bass line for Earrings but it is so hard to keep tempo!!
maj©
Name: RubyBaby
I saw the fireworks
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 09:29:47
Comments:
Razor Boy: Welcome to the dreamscape. It's so cold out there! But you've brought with you that beautiful but haunting Third World Man. It's taking over my subconsciousness! I'm reminded of that U.N. wolf, which is so hungry to take over my beloved USA. I'm not safe! I'm alone! You must carry me over to the sofa. You must light at least 50 candles on the bay window, so when I look out onto the stark reality, the view is softened and warmed by the reflection of Light. Then we must share a cherished quilt and some good, dark ale. Hold me!rb
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 08:48:51
Comments:
Good King Richard: why would "Nightfly" be the best starting point for someone interested in D&W's music, when it's not D&W's music???
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 08:39:29
Comments:
Ole: I kinda dug Victor's gangsta-influenced vocal on "The Message" from "Three Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"... But I wouldn't be happy about an entire disk of the stuff. How many of the new tunes feature vocals? Say it ain't so...
Confirmed - The Skunk appears as part of the "Louisiana Gator Boy Band" in the new Blues Brothers flick.
Name: MrLP
11Trackso'Weakness
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 08:09:41
Comments:
lisa: I really loved 11TOW when I first got it. The problem for me is whenever I try to recall my favorite songs, I can't remember anything beyond the first couple lines. Example: I sing "Whatever happened to my college belle, when did she turn into the wife from hell," then I hear the bass line from Hey19 and the next line that comes out of my mouth is "Jane's gettin' serious." 11TOW, at times, seems too much an amalgam of all too familiar things (bass lines, lyrics, etc.). But I'm with you, I'll defend it -- as a good cd. Live, on the other hand, Walt's voice gets drowned out by anything over 10 decibals.
Name: Roy.Scam
love.of.the.workinggirls
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 07:59:51
Comments:
Mock T: I must enthusiastically disagree. "Pearl of the Quarter" and "Junkie Girl" are both great songs. They strike me as snapshots of the same emotion taken at different life stages. All his illusions of being more than just another customer and of some future together 'when her day is done' are faded; he's finally getting rid of them. The "..I don't dare to follow' passage in Junkie Girl nailed me right in the center; I re-read it after you said it was crappy, and it still moved me. As for sublety, some people become less self conscious with maturity and can be more direct without losing the mystery. Not many artists can come right out and say "It's a fucked up world." and make it work lyrically but WB did it.
A Non-Dan note in the continued absence of new recordings: If you liked the Beatles in their Rubber Soul thru Sgt. Pepper stage, listening to the album "Resigned" by Michael Penn is like finding the lost Beatle album. Good stuff. I didn't lie to you about Ben Folds, did I?
Now someone please tell me which of the obliquely Dan material (China Crisis, Eye to Eye, RLJ, Vela, NYR&SR) is worth buying for other than Dan-Freak historical value. Be honest.
RS
Name: Nightfly Fan
Didn't Like Kamakiriad Except For Tomorrow's Girls
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 07:58:26
Comments:
Nothing really memorable with that album Kamakiriad. Actually it's quite boring. Puts me to sleep. Donald and Walter, no more "concept albums" please. Just give us a collection of good songs that sound good cranked up in the ol' Honda Accord on my way to and from work or playing on the radio in a smoky bar somewhere. Also, give us some memorable lyrics and licks that doesn't take a long time to memorize. We know you guys are smarter than us and all that stuff. Don't show off. Seduce us again and trick us into thinking that your stuff is regular guy music, not jazz/soul nerdboy cybergeek hooey. Thanks.
Name: lisa
selling jesus @g@in
Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 07:40:51
Comments:
well, er...a couple o months back there were some posts regarding kamakiriad that were less than kind...i felt it was my duty to defend it, and likewise i am prompted to rally behind 11tow...
it goes without saying that kama is a masterpiece...but it's flawless melodies are like gazing into a mirror...you don't really see inside the orb, rather it's your own image that is reflected in the glossy surface...kama is both sentimental
and nostalgic, yet at the same time, df has managed to maintain a distance from us...while donald has a tendency to romanticize life, walter on the other hand, is more apt to stare right into the mouth of the dragon and see it for the beast it is...that's the essence of 11tow, which is a masterpiece in it's own right...walter is relaying to us his view of life in a bare-boned account that perhaps donald isn't capable of...it's an open door where the meanings aren't obscured or sugar coated...i can appreciate
it's blatant themes and gritty commentary...after all how much subtlety is there in realism?the point i'm trying to make is that steely dan's music is a blending of both these perspectives...the resulting product is a gestalt formed by the opposing, yet complementary, styles of two geniuses...how could anyone question future projects of the dan, when all the evidence points to another journey into perfection?
anyone interested in a nice pair of tortoise shell frames?
schlemiel.
Name: Mr. Stewart
rmech@alaska.net
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 20:43:22
Comments:
That's apparatus.
By the way, what does Teddy Kennedy have that Bill wishes he had?
A dead girlfriend.
Sorry, Bill.
Name: Mock Turtle
w@youtintheboondocks
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 20:43:20
Comments:
Finally bought 11TOW. Is it just me, or does the whole thing sound like it was made using a single Radio Shack-purchased synthesizer? I've begun to take a bit of a liking to it, however.
But: where's the old SD subtlety? For instance, compare "Junkie Girl" to "Pearl of the Quarter." "Pearl's" lyrics are beautiful, sad, and a masterpiece of poetry. "Junkie Girl" is crappy lyrics over a cheesy electronic drum beat.
The album is good for what it is, but I just fear Don and Walt's collaboration won't live up to the standard of Steely Dan. One thing that gives me hope: "Book of Liars" was MUCH improved on AIA.
Name: Charley Tokyo
godbless@merica
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 20:39:18
Comments:
Geena--I'm so glad you not mad. How nice that you and your daughter are both posting! It's never too early to teach computer literacy!
Slim--I anxiously await tape. Can I borrow a walkman?
So Happy,Charley
P.S. What is "nigga"?
Name: Mr. Stewart
land of glaciers
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 20:31:23
Comments:
Todd: I think Skunk's first group was "Ultimate Spinach." He had the walrus mustache then, too. I found an LP at a record show in Eugene, Or. a while back. There are some hideously bad tunes on it, as well as some pretty good stuff which Skunk rips on. The one time I saw Skunk on Tee Vee he was testifying before a senate committee, something about the risk of hearing loss when listening to music at high volume through headphones. Skunk's position was that there ought to be a built in volume control aparatus which kicks in when the headphones are plugged in. Right on, Skunk! Turn it DOWN!
Clas: Been to the ice hotel yet? Big spread on it in the Anchorage paper today, bunch of Swedes sitting around the ice bar drinking vodka. Go to http://www.jukkas.se/efindex.html
Oleander: Send Halide lights, immediately! You still up for a tape swap? I never was successful at eing you.
Stewwy
Name: justafreak
amindisaterriblethingtowaste.edu
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 19:38:03
Comments:
We're thinking we're getting older and wiser, when we're
just getting old. dude.
Name: oleander
compared to what
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 19:36:30
Comments:
Doc Mwho--On that note, perhaps it's time we all started sending ideas for tour venues to the Steely mailroom....We have a jewel of a 500-seat theater here which would be exquisite for an intimate evening....Aaah, dream on.
Clas--I think something got lost in the translation.
Ruby--You'd better hack that weed back before it grows into your pipes. Worse than kudzu. My favorite dream-tango is "The Fez."
GKR--Aja, I think. And I gotta tell you, whenever I listen to KC now, I hear "Itampian" and get uncontrollable giggles.
Joe--As ever, dig your comments. Yes, and yes--like someone else we know, They're Working On It. Some new tunes were nice, but I don't know if I can get around Futureman singing. BTW, the sax player, Jeff Coffin (? sp.), who toured with them last summer, can blow. He's a little tense for me, but he wailed. And permanently endeared himself to me by pulling a Rahsaan and playing a tenor and an alto simultaneously. Very well at that.
Name: Geena
Sunday in TJ
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 17:19:17
Comments:
Charley: Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me...again, i was just a little confused.
if you got an "F" on your immigration papers for spelling Asia wrong, then i should slapped across the face
for spelling my daughter's name wrong...it's Aja!Sayonara!
Name: Slimmy
tex@s
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 15:47:04
Comments:
Richard
Alternate the SD hits with the more obscure cuts to keep their interest. Let's see...1. Reelin in the Years 2. Night by Night 3. Josie 4. Home at Last, well, you get the picture. I've converted many Dan novices to full fledged fans with such tapes. As a matter of fact I'm making a new one tonight for Charley Tokyo...
Chow,
Slim
Name: goodkingrichard
@a new republic
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 14:17:54
Comments:
A quick recommendation: Just finished reading Nick Hornby's 'High Fidelity'- a great read with a couple of brief Dan references (a rarity?)... and a very real insight into being a bloke... ok, a sad old git running a record store in north London and the litany of his relationships. It's funny and touching...
er... not unlike this Guestbook?
R
PS: OK, so just how many of you out there have tried to interest a pertner ['twas an honest typo, but it makes a point!] in SD by making them a tape of D&Ws music? and is Nightfly the best starting point?
Name: Arnold
terminating
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 10:10:05
Comments:
Guess?: You are right. Something must be done about this. Everyone, please exit quietly. Charley Tokyo, this is going to hurt you much more than it will hurt me.
Name: Guess?
n@@cp
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 08:27:19
Comments:
Enough with the racial shit already...
StAl--can't you do something?
Name: clas
c@w
Location: x, x x
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 06:51:54
Comments:
Whoa! Now you talkin. All kinda mother be showin up to see this act.
Name: Smokey Jones
big@easy
Location: The Big Easy,
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 00:46:10
Comments:
...may ooh may, ojvoj, first you treat this poor Swede worse than a nigga, and now this japanboy...
Charlie Tokyo; do you know something about theorems?
SJ
Name: Lucy Charm
l@stg@sp
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 00:17:43
Comments:
JCD: I met Rikki once. She was Donald's imaginary friend for years. She taught him the keys and then the vibes. Like most imaginary friends she never had a heart to change--but Donald did. He turned it over. I know it's hard to believe but it's even harder to understand. That's why some of us are more comfortable with numbers than with words. In Rikki's case, the Don loved her too much to ever give her a quantity to lose. The effect is still profound--and immeasurable.
Magically Delirious,
Lucy
Name: Charley Tokyo
y@nkeemych@in
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 21:26:11
Comments:
Honorable Geena: "Yankee Foolishness" not meant as criticism! Charley enjoy horse play! Laugh it up, ha, ha, good time! Charley smile at little dramas and funny stories. Charley even laugh at post from man who ask Charley to please take off shoes. Foolish Yankee has never smelled Charley's feet!
P.S. Charley get "F" on immigration test for spelling Asia wrong. Ha, ha!
Name: Anthony
@my bar and grill
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 20:56:02
Comments:
Strapping on the seatbelt.
Name: Dug
dcl@home.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 20:06:00
Comments:
I wonder if the true cosmic underlying brillance of the Dan might have been, say, Victor Feldman. Maybe Fagens mentor. Nah
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 19:56:09
Comments:
I got a girl and Ruby is her name, Ruby, Ruby, Ru-by, Bay-by!!
Finally heard that DejaVu song that samples the intro to Black Cow, basically using it as a loop for the entire *song* in the manner of Show Biz Kids. I think that its a good thing for people to use samples of Dan. It could open up new neighborHOODS to the Dan. "Case in point," one of my students came by last week when she missed her bus to work. This sista is cool. So I obliged on the condition that I pick the tunes. When we hit the car, she tried to put on Power 99. None of that stuff so I had to beat her back. I slipped in Aja, from the top. And after the first notes of Black Cow, she was butter. She recognized the riff and we sailed down the avenue.
Another Dan-meets-car experience.
"...so fine, so young..."
maj©
PS. Minah? You back from the Annals yet?
Name: Geena
Orient Express
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 17:41:11
Comments:
i have listened to so much Dylan and so much Dan for so many years that even under the influence of (your substance of choice), severe duress or in a state of amnesia, i can tell the difference between Dylan and Fagen. So, i have to disagree on this "Fagen sounding like Dylan" thing. In my opinion, Dylan sounds like Dylan and Fagen sounds like Fagen and neither of them sound like each other. I'm sorry, but i don't hear it..
Tokyo: Please explain as briefly as possible and in your most respectful manner what "yankee foolishness" is....thank you.DISCLAIMER
"the opinions expressed above are those of the individual in the state of mind she's in at the moment and not necessarily her opinions in normal mode."
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 15:34:10
Comments:
Pretty sure I saw the Skunk in a clip from "The Blues Brothers 2000" flick... And was that Jack DeJohnette on drums???
Ole: New live Flecktones material? Any mention of a new CD in the offing?
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 14:17:40
Comments:
Ruby! You've always known how to take the bite out of a Canadian winter with your visuals of Dan songs. Any thoughts about how to use "Third World Man" as a means of bringing some sanity to the Persian Gulf? It would be refreshing to have SD be part of something of social significance. If none come to mind, can I watch you in the various throes of escapism that were outlined in your last entry?
Signed: Razor (with a rusty blade).
Name: JCD
n@ked.lunch.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 12:02:57
Comments:
Hey just wondering if anyone could shed some light on what Rikki is actually about? It has been puzzling me for some time now. I mean the words make functional verbal sense but I can't get underneath it to the rest of the story. Any help is appreciated.
Name: Todd Stuart Phillips
tsphil@interport.net
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 11:31:00
Comments:
Have to say few music entities have impressed me as much as the Dan have. But will say that, even though I grew up in the same home town as Rob Mounsey, and do like later Dan and the stuff Donald and Rob have produced together, I still hold the greatest of my affection for the first three albums - when they were an actual "band".
I am also looking for info on Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, including any infor on albums he has played on other than Dan and Doobie Bros. stuff. Any idea where I can find this sort of thing, as well as info on what he has been up to in modern times?
Thanks.
Great page by the way!
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 09:59:43
Comments:
Yo James-O, if you scroll back in the archives here a few months you will surely read that Katz and Fagen are not longer partners in the River Sounds studio. Fagen owns it by himself now. And I don't think they are recording the new one at River Sound either...
Name: JamesO
stillalive@47
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 09:35:25
Comments:
My concerns about the role of Roger Nichols should not be taken as a suggestion that Walter and Donald are not doing the right thing in developing the anticipated CD. I have been aware of his contribution to our favorite music for many years and it has not been insignificant. For example, I have Sun Mountain CDs that Walter and Donald made without him, and yes I know, they were demos. But, as important as creative chemistry is, if it has become lost with Roger for some reason, then he shouldn't be there and the same goes for any session player that I think I might prefer but do not know the whole story on. Roger is a major talent and I hope all is ok with him. I am also aware that he has made recordings for other artists that became less than classics so I'm not implying that he is why we have SD, but they do have a sonic quality that is technically sophisticated and he surely had something to do with that. This takes nothing away from the fact that Donald and Walter are the genius artists who create the magic. As for Gary Katz, I don't even know if this project will be released on a label he produces for. He seems to be around though, being Donald's partner in the ownership of River Sound where they are recording.
Tokyo - The regulars on this board (of which I am not one) do not seem the type to take the time necessary to fill in all the cultural blanks for you. Let me just say, the artists we admire here are yankees as well and you are reading about them. I don't see many of us being devotees of any of your national musical treasures to wait decades for their next release so calm down and take your shoes off when you come in here.
Name: RubyBaby
out of your dream, into your car
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 09:03:30
Comments:
Clas: I think it's the Major who digs the base of Green Earrings. He's also the one with great fm and knows how to use it. And he was kind to a small stray cat. These are just some of the things that heroes are made of.Clas again: I was speaking of dream dancing. In the dream place, we tango to Throw Back the Little Ones, we crazy-dance to Rose Darling, and we strip to Chain Lightning. Are you in?
rb
Name: David
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: An Octagonal House, P.R.
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 08:18:44
Comments:
St.Al: rec your msg. How is your machine code? Monica: It is computer blue. Charles: Cool. Sharon: Maybe '99 for the new album, lest fans make a Danm fuss. Lisa and Aja: Figure it out.
Clas: I think I have to read this durn G.B. more often.
Name: lisa
coffee@nd creem
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 07:25:58
Comments:
aja: i believe the obviously handsome mr.fez might have overstated the importance of my comments...it was something i said in an earlier post to him about the gb, and the reasons we gather here in this virtual mash...
i keep thinking about your last email to me...i can understand your reaction in class to that story...sometimes when a glass is nearly full, just a few drops of liquid can cause the contents to spill over the sides...know what i mean? also, i have been the turtle my entire life, so my grasp of your point was two-fold.
mr. fez? a photograph of the drying process would be nice...come on down and claim your bong hit...i can use my powers and my secret squirrel rhetoric to help you pass that drug test.
off to see the wizard...
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 07:18:22
Comments:
Hardwood: Have you heard the Catalyst or Jurassic version of "Brooklyn owes the Charmer". I thought THAT wass Dylan!!
maj©
Name: clas
c@w
Location: x, x x
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 05:25:30
Comments:
Torque; "what could be a more interesting topic than kinky??"
Maybe mrs Reilly, his mother.
Name: c
c
Location: c, c c
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 00:57:32
Comments:
Ruby; no I can´t dance.
Name: clas
c@w
Location: City of lights,
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 00:52:52
Comments:
Howdy gringos. What´s shakin´ on the hill?
RUBY; no, it was just a"hi". A code. How could I be angry?
Joe Murtha; thanks for your post about Nichols.
Lisa; I have NOT forgot you honey. Thanks for your email. I need some voodoo-stuff done. Do you think you can help me? I will email as soon as I check out.
ROY SCAM; was it you who thought the bass on Green Earrings was so great? What is it about it? Nothing special I think.
I have a letter from Myrna Minkoff to Ignatius. She wanted me to screen it here on the Gbook. Later.
c
c
Name: Monica Lewinsky
b@byim@st@rr
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 23:34:03
Comments:
"Blueprint Blue"--now that's clever! Who wrote it? Mr. Steely or Mr. Dan?
Bored in Brentwood,Monie
Name: Aja
br@in cr@mp
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 23:28:43
Comments:
Oh James! How rude of me to forgotten our conversation. Sorry I forgot. Please forgive me?
lisa - so what's your analysis of why we are here? Why is it I always seem to miss the good stuff?
Aja
Name: lisa
@g@in
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 22:41:26
Comments:
clas??
Name: lisa
scoffing@hardgroove
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 22:37:49
Comments:
hardgroove you lying bastard!!
i know that was you lurking around the female latrine...the five o'clock shadow at 11:00 a.m. gave you away...do you think your pathetic attempt at brainwashing me was successful? i remember the hours of merciless tickling you administered, hoping i would disclose the location of my groovy biker boy...it would take something more sinister than the china crisis cd, played on loop mode, for me to divulge that which is most precious to me...you fool! you blamin' idiot! i do not profess to know the origin of your hatred for my fair schwinny...but NOTHING in your ridiculous
mortal repertoire can shake my love for him...you will never capture him, you crafty bastard!
the young, defiant lisa
Name: Charley Tokyo
n@g@s@ki
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 21:52:54
Comments:
This Roger Nichols / Gary Katz thing making me sick! Donald is 50. Fifty! Do you think seasoned pro will skimp on first Dan album in 18 years? Give me break! If this is kind of discussion you want on GB then count me out! These guys are standing on heads of very tall giants! We are shrimp on kobe grill compared to exquisite puffer fish!
Please, More Yankee Foolishness!
Charles
Name: Hardgroove
inyourc@llingcircle
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 21:33:50
Comments:
Several things: (1. I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the communist party. (2. Donald Fagen sounds NOTHING like Bob Dylan in his early recordings. (3. I DID listen to the Ben Folds Five CD but found it lacking negro soul. (4. That was NOT me that Lisa saw at the GasNSip--it was Mrs. Hardgroove modeling some recent purchases from Frederick's of Hollywood--I had no idea Lisa was even in the vicinity! (5. I AM RETIRED! The Schwinn folder has been turned over to Will Smith. (6. I thought a Pentium II processor was a good idea until I discovered Schwinn was on a G3 kick. How does he continue to connect despite "Operation Lead-Filled Snowshoe"? St. Al...You wanna take the baton on this one?
Enjoying My Technicolor Motorhome,DH
Name: RubyBaby
oleander, you're growing ouside my door!
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 19:24:25
Comments:
Clas! You aren't angry about the Pink Panther thing? Do you have any idea how relieved I am? Besides, that part of you is really endearing to me. In that place where sleep is just out of my grasp, I can hear your voice and then you follow me into my dreams...Do you tango?
*********************************
Dear Walter,
I don't mind who engineers your sound as long as you like it. But I ask one thing of you & Donald - please include the lyrics in the "album jacket" (what do you call that thing anyway?) Just don't be cheap like everyone else these days.
Mahalo,
RubyBaby
Name: Geena
Planet Tripstar
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 18:43:50
Comments:
Clas:
my love for you will never die, i will wait for you until the eternal flame in my heart turns to a faint sizzle....did you say you had a sportscar with a front porch? Does is also have a steam power 10, and a farm in the back where you can grow groovy things? is it in sync lock with Tripstar? amore mio, i am your virus in pumps and pearls!!!
Name: justafreak
letyourmadnessrunwithmine
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 16:13:30
Comments:
Aja,(Aja?) aka; Aja.,
answer was: low rent friend, dude.
Name: fezonorth
whyarewehere.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 14:15:48
Comments:
Before I begin general ramblings, two questions sparked by recent postings.
(1) What's a track engineer?
(2) What ever happenned to Gary Katz? Why is he not (or is he) involved with current project?
Now, onto general ramblings . . .
for all i care, Monica Lewinsky can engineer the new disc. Don't we have enough faith in Walter and Donald to ensure the sound quality will be tops? Hey, it's not like they are known to rush to get inferior material out into the market.
whoever said it, Dr. Mu I think, I agree that the sound quality of NYR&S was superior to the SD tours. Maybe because it was the first time, but I have the fondest memories of the earliest '90's renderings of SD tunes live. I get almost misty eyed thinking about it.
Lisa: great analysis of why we are here. I can't decide which proffer is correct so I vote for bong hits. Screw the drug tests at work. Thanks for the fluffy towel. I think of you now whenever I dry off.
fezo
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 11:16:39
Comments:
One might infer that starting with "Katy Lied", Roger Nichols was more of a "Chief-Engineer-in-charge" type watching over the entire production - supervising, as it were, sound consultants like "Dinky" Dawson along with maintaining his own recording engineering responsiblities. "Royal Scam" employs a second mixdown Engineer (Barney Perkins) as well as a plethora of sound consultants under the catch-all heading, "Techno". By the time you get to "Aja", Roger and company are utilizing a synapse splitting array of sound and mixdown geeks (almost one per tune) in much the same way as they were marshalling session regulars at that time. Each "techie" no doubt specialized in his/her own particular sound and/or mixdown technique.
My point is (if there is one), given the Dan's propensity for specialization, and the fact that they have employed MANY diverse sound guru's in past studio outings, will Roger's input (or lack thereof) affect the final outcome of "the new one" in any big way? Is Roger as much an integral part of The Dan sound as say, legendary recording Engineer Rudy Van Gelder was to all of those incomparable Blue Note and Impulse sessions? I suppose one could make the argument that since Roger was the one ultimately responsible for the final product from a sound engineering perspective, that his seal of approval would be sorely missed on "the new one" if he were not involved. Is Nichols and/or Katz The Dan's Phil Spectre? Maybe...
On a purely nostalgic note, I'm with everyone else... I would love to read the names Roger Nichols and Gary Katz somewhere in Walter's musings on the back of "the new one" (along with the names Gadd, Carlton, Purdie, Dias, Brecker, et al).
I shutup now.
Name: MrLaPage
in the den
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 10:49:15
Comments:
moray eel: I'm doing this without a net, but here goes. And I don't mean to steal your gig. My impression of Marlon Brando singing -- "Sthelluloid bikersth isth Friday'sth theme."
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 09:47:00
Comments:
From the never-heard-it-before department:
Was listening to the radio, yes, FM-radio, yesterday, yes, drivin' like a fool, when an instrumental came on. Oh, that familiar melody, it was........Pretzel Logic! The guitar mirrored the vocals melody. Turns out it was Hiram Bullock from a late 80's 12-inch that the DJ brought in and played. It was OK, but the unexpected thrill was even better!!
Maple Syrups....
maj©
Name: DrMu
yawn...Monday
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 07:25:43
Comments:
Pignose/C: I'm a bit sentimental about Katz too. Was he as important to the Dan as George Martin to the Beatles. I don't know. But he gave the 7 and the Nightfly a sound second to none. I've heard nothing about a producer on the new one. Could be self-produced? or with Scheiner?
Ole - you prickly pear you: Don't blame you for wanting to visit your son. So you weren't dissing the Southern Danfans/vention, while accepting New Yahwkers with open arms - just convenience? (i'm allowed being born just above the Bronx). I can understand that. I will hardly drive the 90 minutes to Houston unless there's a Dan concert - indoors. The new Arena Theater inside Bayou Place in downtown H-town would be an OUTSTANDING venue next time around. Larry Carlton, Lenny White, Jeff Lorber, and Stanley Clarke are scheduled to play there next month. BTW, dark green could hide that shadow crossing the blue Miami sky.
Name: clas
c@w
Location: pink panter,
Date: Monday, February 9, 1998 at 00:53:07
Comments:
RUBY; hi! I agree with you. On Barrytown and Rose Darling Fagen sings like Dylan.
JAMES O; yeah, I think Steely Dan were Katz, Nichols, Becker and Fagen. Sorry to hear that Nichols is not involved in the new one.
AJA; Olympics? Nobody told me!
GEENA; ...and my Malibu beach-house, my sportscar (it´s a special designed FrontPorche), my fancy clothes, my...
OLE; I can´t believe it. Did you say DICK?
c
Name: oleander
flecked out
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 22:25:01
Comments:
Ruby--We're on the same wavelength.
JO--Rave on. Your opening comment is a fine example of Danlike irony.
Doc Mu--Got that, dude. I meant the green pants part. And 16 hours on the road vs. 4 hours in the air + spending my son's 20th b'day with him...? Hmmmm yourself.
Music notes--Saw/heard/experienced Bela Fleck & the Flecktones today. What with a combination of a 3 pm start and not having played together for 4 months, it was more like a laid-back rehearsal than a concert, but still a kick. They played mostly new stuff, with some singing no less. Bela Fleck not only played his banjotar, or whatever, but a sitar-banjo and a beautifully crafted, cut-out 5-string guitar that looked like it had been snapped off three-quarters of the way up the neck. And Futureman spent some time on his drumitar and the right half of a drum kit. No shortage of chopsmanship, and some beautiful tunes.
Mr. Stew--Feared the glaciers swallowed you. Glad you're dehibernating. Maybe you should get a lightbox.
Name: Sharon
tiger training with abbey
Location: West Hollywood,
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 22:18:28
Comments:
Does anyone have any inside info on the new album?Thanks,
Sharon
Name: JamesO
stillalive@47
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 22:13:47
Comments:
DrMu: Good point and I'm sure the creative masterpiece we all await is entrusted to capable hands. It's just that I've had so many years of enjoying this superb and completely unique music and I get nervous thinking that the "chemistry" may be changing to effect the final result in some subtle way. Awhile ago someone posted their sentiments on this board about Dan music in a simple way but it was profound. They said they loved the music because it made them feel the way they wanted to feel. Imagine life never feeling the way Aja or Gaucho or CBAT makes you feel when you hear it! For this reason alone, I want the new one to make me feel the way I want to feel, again. It spooks me a little to think someone who had a key role in making that happen in the past might not be there in River Sound now contributing the intangibles that could effect the final outcome. On the other hand, what if it turns out better?
Name: pignose
@kannonexpress
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 22:06:36
Comments:
Roger Nichols? Gary Katz is Steely Dan. Everybody knows that!
Name: Schwinn
pl@sterc@ster
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 21:58:02
Comments:
Girlfriend
I am currently building a shrine to commemorate your escape from the indefatigable Doctor H. The base is of deep Egyptian basalt, followed by blue-copper laced metamorphia from Persia, crowned with various Martian meteor fragments procured during my latest trip "down south"--capped with the last remaining optically polished limestone shard from the the Great Pyramid. Such is my adoration for you and my distaste for the despotic Hardgroove. And to think he thanked me for the Ben Fold's Five CD. The bastard probably traded it for "The Best of Quicksilver Messenger Service" without even giving it a listen. There is a word for his kind: Doomed. I will see to it. And if you cock your ear to the East in about 3.4 minutes, you should hear the rumble of the big bike...
Daddy's Home,
Schwinn
Name: girlfriend
court@nd spark
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 21:41:51
Comments:
dear big biker:
after a long and cruel road trip, i find myself safely back at the hut...but where is my man-god?
hardgroove was a nuisance, but i will never succumb to such a weak opponent...he tried to tickle me into giving up the location of the hut, but i made it clear that i would die with that knowledge...why does he despise you so? is it because of the package master? jealousy is a dangerous emotion...i knew you should have never modeled for marky mark's prosthetic whang in "boogie nights"...it was bound to make the lesser men lust for your eskimo blood.
please disclose your whereabouts...i need you.
Name: DrMu
awordwithmychiefengineer
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 20:12:58
Comments:
James: I don't know about other folks, but I'm not very concerned if "The Immortal" is not intimately involved with "the new one." Elliot Schiener was the technical guru for New York Rock and Soul Review and Roger Nichols I believe oversaw Alive in America. Although I like most of the performances on AiA better, the sound on NYR&SR is much more clean, crisp, strong, and almost pristine. There are of course lots of other variables cogent when comparing the 2 releases including touring equipment, post-production/recording/clean-up, and concert venues. The result of Eliot Schiener's latest effort on the Fleetwood Mac was spectacular - super clean...and Stevie Nicks' voice no longer has that sheep-like quaaaaaaality. Considering that the 3rd hand info we've seen from the recent EQ article in which Mr. Scheiner describes the "band" as recording a number of songs Live as an ensemble in the studio (pretty cool IMHO), then ES could be the best choice.
Ole: clues: zoos=bouroughs; Bill&Mary=Roy's shindig
Name: Can't belive
My ears
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 19:02:08
Comments:
AjaCome on, your kidding right?!
Name: Aja
Pe@ce
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 18:33:49
Comments:
rubybaby - I noticed that the most of "Rose Darling" has a Dylanesque feel from DF and then someone pointed out a subtle bit on "Throw Back the Little Ones" as well.
WH - Why am I feeling happier today? Maybe it's becasue the world seems a happier place when the Olympics are in progress. Maybe it's because I feel more in control of my life. I know part of it is I feel love around me, even if I'm not always sure of the source. Sorry if my answer isn't specific enough for you. Right now I'm just enjoying the moment.
Aja
Name: rubybaby
cl@ssic rock 95.9fm
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 13:07:17
Comments:
Has anyone noticed that Donald Fagen's voice bears a faint (and sometimes not-so-faint) resemblance to Bob Dylan's, when they were younger?mw - you're missing all the Moon Pies and the cow pies. I'll save some for ya!
moray: I forgot to sing back to you -
somewhere there's music,
that's where you are
somewhere there's heaven,
how near, how farrb
Name: JamesO
stillalive@47
Date: Sunday, February 8, 1998 at 08:08:09
Comments:
Thanks Q but it seems to be a little slow in Dandom, especially when you start actually tallking about SD. I didn't mean to imply that it was unusual that Elliot Scheiner was engineering since he has been the tracking engineer on most of their projects and it appears that they are in the tracking stage. It's just that Roger seems suspiciously absent. Maybe he will surface for his normal role of Dan trademark endless overdubbing until it reaches the perfection we have all come to expect and love. I hope the NYC grapevine can get the scoop out of River Sound to put my mind at ease. In my view, Roger always was the third permanent member of SD because so much of the work that has gone into the overall effect has been the result of studio genius. Maybe Pete Fogel knows the answer.
Name: RubyBaby
kanga1776@aol.com
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 20:10:24
Comments:
moray eel: I was gonna say, You Can Keep Your Hat On, but that's been done. So instead, I'll just say Do It Again, okay?
Name: Geena
Caves of Altamira
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 19:58:45
Comments:
Mr. Stewart:
Do you really live in Alaska? I'm wondering...what does this constant darkness do to ones psyche? Is everyone just used to it?
A downstairs neighbor i once knew told me She was married to a military man who was stationed in Alaska. She said they got home one evening during the summer and since they were both hungry, decided it would be a good idea to start the barbecue. I don't know how much noise they were making, but their neighbors started to complain until they realized it was 11pm at night. Neither of them had any idea what time it was because it was still daylight!
This is all very strange to me and i was just curious....
Name: Aja
@j@
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 18:56:08
Comments:
Oh James?? Who are you? E me with a clue sierraluna@juno.com
Nichols in Florida, and no longer in the good graces of the Dan? Do tell, please.
Oh those who are scawbling (sp?), can't you see there are more than two sides to practically any issue? I know I'm stating the obvious, maybe that's what's needed once in awhile.
Oleander, I'll get back to the sensory thing.
Aja
Name: Schwinn
b@ckfrom@lbert@
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 17:45:44
Comments:
Lisa
How my heart seethes knowing the insidious Hardgroove is still stalking my lady love! If only I knew where to place the hotplate and can of sterno! Yes, we must meet soon and discuss our next move. The polaroids are expendable and probably only being bandied about in a pathetic plea for attention. No frozen blacktop can slow my arrival. E-mail me sister golden hair...
SEMB
Name: Phelonious
Schenectady@home
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 17:16:09
Comments:
James O: Nice take on Roger. He was the difference between a
great 1994 tour and a sucky 1996 tour. At least the '96 show I
caught. He was mentioned with the band.
What the hell happened???
Name: Mr. Stewart
anchor age
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 09:39:51
Comments:
Where am I? What time is it? Been dark so long...Yesterday morning I got up from the couch, thought it was night, started getting ready for bed. Today, 8:00 a.m., we had some blue in the sky. My life needs a Tom Waits sound track at this point.
Lynard Skynard was boring. Fun watching the high school stoners in front of me get their pipe confiscated only to light some doobs. No people of color in attendance. Lots of stars and bars bandanas. Guy next to me had an "SS" tattoo on his neck.
More in March.
Stewwy
Name: girlfriend
@voiding hardgroove
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 07:31:21
Comments:
schwinny:
we have made a grievous error in judgment...
the dreaded hardgroove has followed me to my current hide away...i spotted him emerging from the ladies room at the local gasNsip...his disguise was ridiculous, yet somehow alluring...he was sporting a crushed velvet uni-tard, a BAD wig and red-as-a-monkey's-ass lipgloss...but i know it was him.
what course of action should be taken? hardgroove hasn't gotten soft as we suspected...on the contrary...it looks as though his absence was merely a cog in his diabolical scheme...he has copies of the polaroids! he left one of "the package master" nailed to my hotel room door...i must be careful on my route home...stick to the back roads...i fear i won't be able to make it back to the hut tonight as planned...if your java is brewing, maybe we can meet up somewhere? i will contact you in email with the location info.
my heart is with you biker.
Name: David
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Date: Saturday, February 7, 1998 at 00:07:20
Comments:
Oleander: Yes, Einstein was a slow learner. . . . . .
Lisa: Keys ain't easy, but, it does not have to be a biggie. . .
St. Al &/or Dr.: A separate sign place with all notes/chords? No stupid words. Just chords, notes, and time signatures. Evolve. Have a clone. You know they are doing it with humans. D.
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 20:59:53
Comments:
Well what the hell is the answer to James O's question all you Dan heavyweights!!!,hey, even higher levels of Dan monarchy are accountable to James O's
fundamental point.
Name: oleander
next to nougat
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 20:47:04
Comments:
For any other slow learners, there's lots of fun new stuff on the ODP--not just Dodo. I kind of miss that little romantic scene, though.
Moray--so did you leave your hat on? or just the fez?
aja--huh? Run that about cross-pollination and brain death by me again?
lisa--glad you & your sidekicks (psychdicks?) are back. I think the non-sd content generally complements the devotional--it's like riffing, or taking solos--like all improv, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but it always comes back to the theme.
Dr Mu--I'll be landing on the Jersey beaches while I'm trying to unscramble your post.
Royola--I've heard that if you drive inside the Beltway anymore you are instantly transported to Mizar 5. Pepe has been busy. While I remember the Sky Bar wrapper as if it were a madeleine, I don't remember all the flavors--nougat & caramel, yes....can you help? And no, I don't recall the song. Maybe we can get a MIDI bit of it somewhere on the Web....
Danmoments--Watching Number Three Son in the balls at McDonald's: "Countermoon." Appropriate since McD's is worse than a bad cartoon. Et tu, Scooby?
Q--Duality, dichotomy, complementarity, doppelgangers, Manichaeanism, yin-yang, polarity--you got something there. And I've noticed that sometimes all the angles are played in threes.
Name: Geena
The Crystal Palace
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 19:23:00
Comments:
Fez Chick:
hey girl! I haven't heard from you in a while!..sorry to hear you're Snowbound....we just had a lot of freezing rain and plain cold! Everything here is frozen..everything has an icy glaze...tried walking down my 13 front steps at six this morning without ice skates!
I like to listen to Citizen Steely Dan #3, Nightfly and Countdown to Ecstasy while shoveling snow. And when mowing that hilly lawn o mine, i listen to Gaucho, Katylied and Kamariad...the rest of their collections i listen to when i go for my power walks.
I don't know about you, but don't you hate it when you're wearing your walkman while shoveling, mowing or whatever one does with a walkman on and people try talking to you? A couple of weeks ago, i was out shoveling snow and this man was carrying a full fledged conversation with me. If i hadn't stopped to rest for a minute i would have never noticed him there...Oh well!!!!!!!!!
Clas: you're money is no good to me...i want your mind...may i step up a few paces in line now?
Name: Andy Rooney
Alzheimer's Avenue
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 13:59:40
Comments:
Did'ya ever notice how the Clinton White House saga is turning into an episode of Dream On?
Name: JamesO
stillalive@47
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 13:47:44
Comments:
Sorry for not being hip enough to contribute to all of your clever and witty discussions but I enjoy reading them. I am a serious Dan fan and I am getting the impression that Roger Nichols is not the tracking engineer on the new album. This alarms me because he has had a huge role in the SD sound since the beginning. Does anyone know for sure? In the past, whenever he was on a SD project, he would refer to it in his EQ magazine column. This time he is saying zero about it. Now, Elliot Scheiner is giving out the info as the engineer in an interview in EQ. Another thing, Roger has shut down his Digital-Atomics net site and has moved from Nashville to Florida and his link is gone on the SD web site. What is going on with Roger? Has he fallen from grace? I thought this was a team. He even engineered the stage mixes on the tours! Pardon me for hyperventilating. This may be old news. Could one of you deep insiders let us in on the story? Thanks
P.S. I still think they should be using Bernard Purdie, Dean Parks, Larry Carlton and Drew Zingg. SD is more about feel than chops. Now I'm in trouble. Yeah, Aja, it's me in Arizona. bye
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 11:31:35
Comments:
I was doing "the hang" (as Minah is fond of saying) at a dive place in Pemberton NJ last night and the three piece band kicked into Chain Lightnin', an instrumental version. Or at least I thought it was. When I complimented the band on their supreme sense of taste, they had never heard of the song. Go figure. I bought another pitcher and forgot about it.
Other DAn sightings: New Frontier was playing at DeSimone BMW in Marlton when I came back in from looking at some cars on the lot.
Oh, there's more but I can't remember.
maj©
Name: stevie"fellini"
goneto the movies etc
Location: Pouring rain, CA
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 07:46:04
Comments:
scene...two: Kevin Spacey and Peter Weller dialogue
'Do It Again' by the Gershwin bros. plays on a AM Radio in a small lunchonette..........
Clean Willey (Spacey): "You'd think we'd had enough of this.....cheap grass....."
Jack Kelly (Weller)..."That's not cheap stuff....that was grown by Herbert Hincke with Old Bull Lee in Norleans......you gunna drink that coffee?"
Willey: "Of course I'm gunna drink it....I friggin' paid for it didn't I???"
slow pan across the cafe......slow zoom out front window toward old church.......music from 'Apogee"..... fade......cut..that's a wrap
Name: Roy.Scam
washington zoo
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 06:01:28
Comments:
Pull down the pants of Good King William.
Call up the press to see the Chief ...... of Staffs.
Raise up the flag, and swallow the leader.
Here comes the Chief. The good king laughs.Moray Eel: Re; Ben Folds. I suggest getting either (or both) of the first two albums to start with; then get the "Naked Baby Photos" CD later, after you're addicted. There's also a single, actually an EP, on sale with "Brick" and 3 tracks that aren't available elsewhere, including a great new song called "Mitchell Lane".
I think the correct version of that Good King Richard Nixon impression is "I am not a corpse."RS
Name: CLAS
atelje.lundkvist@mbox300.swipnet.se
Location: x, x x
Date: Friday, February 6, 1998 at 01:26:13
Comments:
MOCK TURTLE; you got my number, it´s still the same...
GEENA; oh Geena, great mind? It´s my body and it´s my money.
IGNATIUS; do you still sell hot dogs down on Canal Street?
LISA; there you are. I´ll email you.
c
Name: Concerned Netizen
one @ngry dwarf
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 21:58:54
Comments:
Hardgroove-- Hey man, are you gettin' soft on me here?
Name: Hardgroove
@pologetic@
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 21:44:47
Comments:
Aja--no offense meant by the post. Sowwy.
Doc H
Name: moray eel
dancing on the baby...grand
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 21:19:22
Comments:
Oh, Great Spirit: You ask, "Can you tune a Wurlitzer?" If you are using "you" in the collective third person, then yes. You can tune a Wurlitzer, but you can't tuna fish.
Rubes: Brain Tapped had the right idea. I am slowly shedding articles of clothing just for you. You have to tell me when to stop, though. I wouldn't want to make you blush.
RoyScam: I can do an impression of every "Scooby-Doo" villian after they get caught. Here goes: [turning around] "...and I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!"
Here's another villian, guess who? [making two peace signs with hands high in the air] "I am not a crock!"
Oh, wait! That was terrible. Let me try that again. [shaking head side to side] "I am not a cook!" Eh, I better go practice that one.Can anyone tell me which Ben Folds Five disk to buy?
Somewhere there's music...
How faint the tune...
Somewhere there's heaven...
How high the moon...m.e.
Name: FezChick
Snowbound, Let's sleep in today!
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 19:12:35
Comments:
I can't get to work and my kid has been out of school since Tuesday! Luckily, I have lots of Dan Tunes to help with the cabin fever. Maybe I'll listen via walkman tomorrow as I'm shoveling through a foot deep driveway full of snow. I'm trying to decide on the best Dan music to shovel snow by.
Any suggestions?
RubyBaby: You're lucky to live in a sunny state! This place is a joke. It looks like Alaska outside!
Geena: How about you? How much snow did MA get?
Anybody else out there "Snowbound"?
Wake me up when the wolves go out to play!
Name: Geena
Northeast Ice Castle
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 18:54:04
Comments:
Clas: sigh...I will stand in line and wait for you...but
do those other women who wait in line with me admire you for
your mind as i do?ok..ok..i feel like i'm in a deli line...where do i get my
number?--------------------------------------------------------
Name: lisa
m@king it up @s we go
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 16:35:09
Comments:
hmmmm...mr fez: nice to see you again...i want to comment on the section of your post regarding the display of non-sd related material on the gb...you correctly observed the tendency of people to go for the spectacle: we seem to focus on the crudest/snidest remarks, rather than sticking to the topic of our heroes...why?
i'll be the first to admit my guilt in this arena...personally, i am curious about others who love sd...that's why we're here in the first place, right? so, the other stuff is like a glimpse into our inner workings...do we think this way due to years of listening to don and walt's ideas, relayed through their music? that would mean we have been programmed by them (in a way)...OR do we listen because it appeals to our similar intellects, satisfying some urge or placating us somehow?
thoughts? bong hit??
and finally, mr fez: clas and i are just pals...we like to exchange sob stories and such...so having said that, may i offer you a fluffy towel to dry off with?
hold tight the rains,sbk
Name: B.P. King
Bpk4953@uncwil.edu
Location: Wilmington, NC
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 16:16:55
Comments:
This is nice. I plan to name my first child Aja.
Name: justafreak
everyones@crazy
Location: lowereastjesus, Nb.
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 15:50:59
Comments:
Q, duality? Or a condition of the mind, ie: bi-polar mood disorder? Of course, alcohol can bend one's mind.
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 15:40:41
Comments:
Sorry for an unprecedented third post, but...... is'nt it interesting that the GB has a duality theme similar to our Dynamic Duo(DF+WB)- ie the focus on our Dynamic Guestbook Duo- Clas & Kinky. Food (or alcahol) For Thought. I think we need a dissertation from Oleander on this. Q-Signing Out Strangers.........
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 15:35:07
Comments:
I vote Holdsworth too- going to see Carlton Friday- is he still throwing in Dan licks these days?-anyone seen him lately? Krantz is good but too choppy and inconsistent and with very little melodic touch IMHO- of course we need Kinky's(AKA Swami Jr.) omniscient guidance here. Q
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 15:28:56
Comments:
WB, Manassas, '96: "...Worry that bottle... worry it, worry it, worry it... No we're not gonna sing FM..."
DF, LA, '78: "...It's grapefriut wine..."
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 15:28:20
Comments:
Kinky- I Got The News - "what I hear-may be true- I would still be proud - to know you". Q
Name: Mock Turtle
the primordial soup
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 14:50:42
Comments:
RE: MISHEARD LYRICS
I am confused about the lyrics to the song FM, and I just know you guys can help me out:
Does it, or does it not say, "Bury the bottle, mama, it's great for the wine..."? The lyrics on the net claim "GRAPEFRUIT wine" is used. Absolutely ridiculous, I thought! But now I have doubts. So, have I been duped all these years? If so, just what the hell is grapefruit wine?
MT
Name: fezonorth
underwater2.com
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 14:38:16
Comments:
Fearing falling under the rage of Kinky for being a poster who only talks about douche bags, here's a SD related message. Ever notice, though, it's the non-SD messages that get more of a response. Hmnnnnnn.
Since we're on the sound-a-like theme lately . . . Van Morrison's "Domino" and "My Old School". Heard the horns from the former on the radio today and and was waiting for DF to burst forth. Boy was I surprised.
Lisa: glad to see ya back on the board, but alas, you appear only to have eyes for Clas
Fezo
Name: Editor
@ gutiar Magazine
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 14:12:35
Comments:
Dr.Mu I will go with (G) Buzzy Featon, sounds to me Drew's been ripping off Buzzy for years now. Does any one agree?BTW. Krantz can't touch Holdsworth!
Name: johnboy
prowler@theedgeoftheworld
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 14:12:22
Comments:
Schwinn: When did they move Lake Louise to BC?
Name: DrMu
SuperSwell
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 13:43:47
Comments:
Dan Pop Quiz: Drew Zingg's guitar licks (rhetoric extra) sound most like:
a) Dean Parks
b) Denny Dias
c) MR Steve Khan
d) Larry Carlton
e) Krantz on quaaludes
f) It's irrelevant. Eliot Schiener has sampled and cloned guitars riffs from any studio danite who's been anywhere near the studio completely eliminating human interaction...Nirvana!
Bark, Spot, Bark! From experience, loose green trousers are the key. Otherwise, large fluid shifts may result in a 35% reduction in cerebral blood flow causing a compulsion to Post drivel, venom, and general insanity in this venue...or worse taking the wheel.
Dr. O: William and Mary won't do, but drivin' like a fool to Five Zoos? Hmm...
Name: lisa
showbizkid@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 11:29:25
Comments:
clas: you miss me? i assumed that with your sect of devoted wenches, you would forget all about lil old me...am i required to wait in line with the others? i love you clas, but i insist on being your "bottom bitch"...second to lena, of course...i certainly miss those smokey phone calls from my favorite swede...are you well?
please get in touch with me...i have much to tell you.
sbk
Name: YGK
..
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 10:39:26
Comments:
Kink: Yeah, right, and I've got a beautiful view of the moon from my apartment on the moon - you're great at double-talking, ever try politics? If you have a view of the Manhattan Skyline, you might be in Jersey City, or you're possibly in Brooklyn Heights, or you have a shot of the northern skyline from Harlem, which is Manhattan. But I know a little white-ass SOB couldn't handle all the 'colored' up in Harlem, so I think you're probably in Jersey, where you're comfortable with the trash and big hair.
So if you have an address in Manhattan, give it up -the zip will probably being with 0 - you lie like a rug, Kinkster, Go back to Greenwich and dream….OLE-O: My girlfriends e-mail is klw12@columbia.edu - I can be reached through this.
Name: Roy.Scam
they'retryingtowashusaway
Location: Underwater, VA
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 08:53:21
Comments:
Ole-wanderer: What with the weather being so unendearing in the Mid-Atlantic, maybe you should hit NYC two days early and catch that Coltrane tribute. You DO know how to get to Carnegie Hall don't you?
If you hit a time warp driving through the DC beltway, stop and get me a Sky Bar at Wallace & Monroe's Drug Store. BTW, the Sky Bar jingle was a perfect rhythmic match with Paul Simon's "Late In the Evening". Remember "1, 2, 3, 4, Sky Bar..."?
Mohair. Is that a variation of mo' money?
M.E.: Good Johnny Carson impression. Do you do any others?
RS
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 07:46:29
Comments:
eeeeeeewwwww, and you were sooo close to generating your first coherent Dan thought, Kranky... One wonders if the wheel's are spinning, but the hamster's maybe just kicked off.
Babs!? This is... Ugh!
Name: Aja
thinking positively
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 06:39:47
Comments:
That's a little more like it, more positive thinking and cooperation and less negativity and back stabbing (not all of you but the guilty parties know who they are). The birds are singing and today looks like it's going to be a beautiful day.
Hardgroove - I don't expect everyone to be like me, so don't Jonathan Carroll if you don't want to. Actually the sensory overload I was refering to last night was a headache and too much negative energy. Things are going to be much better now.
Aja
Name: clas
c@w
Location: x, x x
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 03:00:24
Comments:
For the moment I am re-reading "The conspiracy of the dunces" (SP?) and I am sure that Ignatius must have been a model for one of this GuestBooks members. (No names so don´t bother Kinky)
GEENA; I didn´t ignore you! I love you too but there are so many girls in my life so you have to stand in line like the rest of them.
SCHWINN; you mean that those guys never had seen a cd before? Strange eh? But then again, I can´t tell the difference between a bike and a scooter. And tell me, where is Lisa? I miss her and I´ve lost her email address.
"In 1974, Steely Dan were back in the top 10 with Rikki Don´t Lose That Number", a typically conversational (and typically cryptic) Becker/Fagen song based around an old Horace Silver riff..." Hoskyns, Waiting for the sun.
What the hell!
A Horace Silver-riff?audi,
c
Name: Hardgroove
nobr@iner
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 00:35:47
Comments:
Aja
When "cross sensory" pollinization occurs it is best to read, Jonathan Swift, and reserve Jonathan Carroll for the itty bitty people.
Immune to Melatonin,
DH
Name: Aja
sensory overloaded @ the moment
Date: Thursday, February 5, 1998 at 00:20:48
Comments:
Darn Headache! I can't think of what the term is for cross sensory input experience is at the moment, but I do remember me and another student arguing with my instructor about her definition of it for about a half an hour. She was saying that when it happened it that no brain activity occurred. I said that means one is brain dead, so a better definition would be to say that no conscious thought process were necessary for this experience.
Well, I'm gonna go put on some James Taylor and try to sooth my headache away and maybe read some Johnathan Carroll.
Oh, BTW, I was posting mainly as a disclaimer since apparently someone was using my computer while I was away last night, I didn't send any emails between the hours of 6PM an 10PM or chat with anyone. Hope someone wasn't impersonating me.
Aja
Name: Brain tapped
@shake rattle and roll
Location: walt-dog Island, Hi USA
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 23:30:32
Comments:
OK Ruby, Moreray was nude standing on that piano.He took off his cloths and started to shake.
Name: Schwinn
@lmostcutmyh@ir
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 22:36:02
Comments:
Couldn't stay away from my favorite starship troopers for long, even though my last debacle with Clas got me banished from Canada for life. For LIFE! Hard to comprehend, isn't it? That question weighed heavily on my mind as I crossed back into British Columbia to attend the 22nd annual "Draft Dodgin' with the Dan" celebration at the foot of Lake Louise last Sunday. You should have seen those old hippie's faces when I showed them a CD! But, some things never change--several of them wanted to know if I could get them a copy of "Cherokee Nation" on disc. I told 'em I'de consult the GB. How about it, boys and girls, is Cherokee Nation available on CD? It'll give me an excuse to bike on back to the banished land.
Peace,
SEMB
Name: oleander
oleander1@earthlink.net
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 20:28:10
Comments:
New digs--I've moved through all the circles of email hell into purgatory, at least--if they let Jews in, that is.
YGK--e me how to contact you. How about you, me, & Kinky get together for a nice cup of tea?
Kinkster--Hey man, I didn't ASK for advice. Anyway, I've been married so long "dating" sounds Swedish....Did you really move up to Manhattan? Or are you still hq'd in Whichwich? Put your money where your mouth is and I'll meet you wherever. And if you can get Ricky Jay tickets (nonscalped), I'll treat.
minah--speaking of marriage, that's one of the best Freudian slips I've seen in a loooooong time. Annals. Aloha.
stevie, Roy--I LOVE it! and I PERSONALLY know that Scorsese is VERY interested! But I want to be sure that both of you will be doing cameos--Roy in a white mohair jacket (a la Kevin Spacey in "LA Confidential") and stevie in a fedora, two-tone shoes, and a Snugli.
Thanks to all "lexicographic irregulars" a la Safire. Mo--"experience" is probably the closest, but you're right, it just doesn't do it. Clas--"live it up"--that's good. Maybe it's not just English. I can't think of anything in French or Spanish that would fill the bill either.
Yours in sensory nuance
Name: Geena
listen like thieves
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 19:39:54
Comments:
Kinky: you need some tips on dating? can i be of any help?
Clas: i know you've ignored my post...i still think i'm in love with you...
so fine, so young..tell me i'm the only one....
Name: felonius
mister@roger'sneighborHOOD
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 19:18:39
Comments:
Can't we all just get along? Think happy thoughts.....I knew you could, you're special!
Name: Brian E. Smith
kycol@couriernet.infi.net
Location: Louisville, Ky USA
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 18:54:12
Comments:
Just happened to stumble across this site & dig it!!! Have a fucking GREAT day, y'all!!!
Name: torque
sl@mboree
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 15:48:58
Comments:
puff: can you spot me a blunt, yo? it's dry as an old whore's coochie down here.
p.s. tell kinky that his son misses him
Name: Puff Daddy
@kink's side
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 15:37:52
Comments:
What's the matter, Kinky? Is it like the late, great Notorious BIG would say, "Mo' money, mo' problems."
Name: torque
b@d@ss mother g.i. joe
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 15:07:13
Comments:
what could be a more interesting topic than kinky??
Name: Kinky
@BongoNight
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 14:51:58
Comments:
Yeah, I guess I could just be like all you one-time-posters and talk about douche bags and lucky charms. This IS the SD Board, right?!
GK - the view of the Manhattan skyline looks just great from my bedroom window IN my Manhattan apartment. But hey you Wigger, I have a great idea! Just take Oleander to all the bars you've been fired from, that should eat up a couple of days, I'd think.
Okay Clean W, you want to talk Dan? Let's see...Hmmm...Well...Umm...Gaucho came out in 1980... Ummm...Well... You're right! I can't think of anything else to say!
Leon - Tell the Boy's I got Jarrett's laywer, and I'll see 'em in court
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 14:15:16
Comments:
...or asking Kinky to post something, anything relevant to the Dan and/or something, anything NOT involving his favorite topic... himself.
Name: Leon Pannetta
@ the bank
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 13:27:35
Comments:
Let me get this straight: Kinky owns the patent on "Wanted" posters?!? Cool! I've got to remember him next time I'm looking for rich donors
Name: YGK
..
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 13:16:43
Comments:
OLE-O: You're gonna be in the Slope, eh? hmmm
(still) my 'hood. Lemme know your plans. I'm NYC-universal as far as plans go, and, of course Kinky don't know Jack about
the city - he doesn't live here...ChunQ: Yo - brotha - I got some PHAT lines yo!
ygk
Name: rubybaby
just wondering
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 10:10:55
Comments:
moray eel: what are you wearing, as you're standing on your piano?
Name: Kinky
KinkySoNSo@aol.com
Location: that's right!,
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 09:49:39
Comments:
Sir Lee - Scroll Muthafucka!
SDWebDWEEB - Since it's quite obvious you don't read your own mail, I'm posting this here, and maybe, just maybe, you'll see it...
Just because some homeboys is stealin' Dan tunes, don't take it out on me! Cause I'd have to say that your *new* front page looks oddly familiar. But how the hell would you know this? You don't even have my site linked from that official one.
Hey, anyone seen Kieth Jarrett around? Have his email address? There's gotta be a support group around for this sort of thing.
Olee' O - Taking GK's advice about what to do in Manhattan is like asking Karla Faye what her plans are for this weekend, or asking JGMurtha who's playing in NY this week that HASN'T played with Steely Dan, or asking Patrick Ewing to read you a bedtime story, or asking the girls on this board for dating tips, or...
Name: Roy.Scam
showbiz.cum
Location: Hollywood,
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 08:45:42
Comments:
Memo to Stevie Dan: We need 30 pages of script and a one-page pitch (eg: Brazil meets Green Flower Street...yada...yada..) before we can begin production. Hutton is last year's papers; we'll get Leo DeCapria and Ashley Judd; they should still be hot for another month or so. Steely Dan is too hard to work with and Parker and Ellington don't sell, so we've brought in Puff Daddy and Michael Bolton to do the sound track. East St. Louis is too controversial; let's open with "Gary, Indiana" from the Music Man; and try to set it in the present or make it a Cowboy movie circa 1870; 1947 is too hard to re-create. If you stick with Chinatown, work in some Kung Fu or something; we'll get that 'Babe-raham Lincoln' girl from Wayne's World to kick some ass. The Accounting Department will be directing, so don't bother writing in any extra characters. And change that central character to a hunch-backed Peruvian lesbian and I think we've got a winner.
Name: steviedan
kim@parkersband.org
Location: Oakland, Chinatown
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 07:23:00
Comments:
opening shot: pan across lake Merritt...past the Masonic temple on toward the Public Library....
original version of 'East St. Louis' plays.....
in the main reading room he sits........
'Oaktown 1947'.........a Burroughsian fantasy....featuring music by Steely Dan, Duke Ellington, Charlie Parker, Art Blakey .....starring Timothy Hutton and Michelle Yeow.......guest appearance by Peter Weller.........
He never thought he'd end up in Chinatown. LA maybe...but never Chinatown.....he had such high hopes once. Nervously he fidgeted with the newspaper. Was he still high? Or was he just reeling from his narrow escape from the mandarin plums apartment?........A coffee and a cigarette was in order.....
instrumental break from 'Your Gold Teeth' plays
Name: clas
c@w
Location: x, x x
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 02:43:11
Comments:
Mr La Page; do you also suffer from sternum pains? We have something in common!
Great Spirit; have I developed a following? Really, I don´t understand the meaning of that, please put it other words.
Snowbound, at last
Clas
Name: Great Spirit
ys@tqvagr.com
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 01:19:22
Comments:
steviedan: I think all of us belong "Up on the Hill."
Clas: I think you have developed a following.
Chung: You post like Josie.
Moray: Can you tune a Wurlitzer?
Name: moray eel
Standing on my piano
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 23:19:32
Comments:
DR. Oleander: Regarding "Lord of Moray"- {doing my best Johnny Carson impression} (placing index finger horizontal, below nose) I did not know that...That is weird, wacky stuff.
Regarding multi-sensory perception-I think that the best word in English would be "experienced". "Are you experienced?"
Many words have that "neutral sense" connotation (noticed/ observed / perceived), but I don't think that that is what you are looking for.
**Trivia for the Dr.** 80% - 90% of what people consider to be their sense of taste, is actually smell. T or F?
m.e.
Man, am I tired!
Name: Surly Walter Raleigh
@pb
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 22:44:11
Comments:
I am NOT gay. Repeat. I am a normal human being with a mortgage and a jewish financial advisor. I watch TV and believe most of it. I listen to music and believe it was meant for me. Repeat. I am normal. Anybody want some normal conversation? I'm sick of Kinky's e-mails...
Sir li
Name: queenie
wh@t@weenie
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 21:32:49
Comments:
trent, you pagen bombshell...
get your ass over here!
Name: T. Reznor
r@zorbowie
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 21:29:00
Comments:
Queenie! I remember you from that St. Louis after-concert party. You said you'de be back and here you are! I know an honest face when I see one. I hope you put my missing $2100 to good use. New nose? Breast reduction? Wait, I've got it: Bitchin' computer and 5 year discount web service. Am I right? I miss you. Please return my stone. Aww, forget it sweetie.
T.R.
Name: queenie
my whole existence is fl@wed
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 21:13:52
Comments:
trent?
Name: Trent Reznor
r@zorbowie
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 21:00:50
Comments:
This just in: The new album will be titled, "It's a Beautiful Day".
Name: MrLP
@
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 11:48:01
Comments:
Chunq et al.,
Sorry. Must've been something I had for lunch.
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 11:41:13
Comments:
re; Dodo Maramarosa, ... just read the all-Music Guide entry on him and it says his career was cut short by mental illness and he permanently retired in Pittsburgh... maybe that makes him the perfect candidate for a session man for the new SD album...
Name: Chunq in Purgatory
@wfully sorry, sirs
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 11:36:46
Comments:
Mr. LaPage-- I have seen the error of my ways. I will make it my new life mission to end this horrid practice of digital thievery. While I cannot control the masses, or maintain a half-way decent erection, at least my music will be free of "borrowed material" from now on.
Does anyone wanna donate a bass line?
No talent, but alotta cool recording equipment,Scurvy "B"
Name: MrLaPage
@stop
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 11:20:53
Comments:
ChunqNugatory: You can do your part to stop the madness. Although I have heard some decent uses of the Dan in the sampling arena -- e.g., Ice Cube's use of "Green Earrings" in his "Don't Trus' 'Em" -- I hate sampling. Sampling and re-releasing movies just because they happen to be twenty years old is leading to the death of artistic creativity. Why come up with something new when you can basically latch on to something that's already there? How did the New Yorker get off declaring Beck a genius in its review of Odelay? Don't get me wrong. I like Beck. But genius shoudn't be bandied about, willy-nilly. It's bad enough we have to be bombarded by Hollywood with hackneyed material. But do we have to subjected to celluloid leftovers in first-run theaters? The Star Wars thing. The Godfather. The Graduate. For the rest of my life there's going to be some movie that was decent twenty years ago, but that doesn't mean I want some jackass to dust off the master copy and spend twenty thousand bucks adding some piece of crap scene. Stop, Chunq. Stop. I realize your post is a joke; however, this no joking matter, young man. Aw, to Hell with it. I'm getting a sharp pain in my chest. Do whatever you wanna do. Just promise to donate a portion of the proceeds to a good cause like the Clas Home for Aged Dan Fans.
Name: minah
@the terminal
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 10:41:09
Comments:
JGm, he may still be alive, his online bio reads 1925-____. He's pegging 73, but if you find him, strap a lobster bib on him and I'll take him as a carry-on, we can split the reward money...
mW
Name: ChunqNuggety
ColdChillin Like@Villian
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 10:40:19
Comments:
Yo all you Freak-A-Zoids! I have just been hipped to this group Steely Dan because my Home Griddles sampled a lick from the song "Black Cow". Now I am ready to lay down some ice on one of my slick illin' tracks...Steely got some funky bass lines for white boys!! Any of you cats know the best songs to sample? I need to buy some shoes for my baby's mother.
Another Scurvy Brother
Name: Joe M
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 10:01:22
Comments:
(f)(m)(ch)inah: Nah, missed 'em this time.
Don+Walt must be awfully hard up for good session guys for "The New One", eh what? Hmmmm, Dodo did play on Bird's "Relaxin' At The Camarillo" though... Another Bird/Dan tie-in perhaps? See official site for details...
Name: (m)(f)(ch)inah
Taking the Grey Line to the Airport
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 09:08:30
Comments:
JGm: Good deal/Thanks. See Hersch?
Maj©: Well? Good retsina and night at the movies? You ever get that sink re-enameled?
Stal: OK, I just figured it out, that must have been Rubybaby's childhood with the duct-taped dog's feet. Sorry...
Well, I'm off to the Isle of Walt-dog for 10 days to see my older bro enter the anals(sp?) of wedded bliss and pick up a fresh supply of Snorkle-Dog© postcards for Mr. Stew's next popcorn fest...mind the cows for me, would ya?
mW
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 08:51:44
Comments:
Oleander: The Dan and an endless highway are the perfect pair. More on Dan and autos later, when I can muster the time to put it down.
I'm lovin' this Green Earrings conversation. I can't believe that bass line. Amazing. Barney thumps it live!! Just wish they showed more of him on the video monitors during the show. I could use the pointers. More Barney, less trumpeter's wife!!
"...driving like a fool out to Hackensack, drinking his dinner from a paper sack..."
Minah: The vino was primo. Anything sur lie is cool with me.
maj©
Name: Fanman
somewhereovertoledo
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 08:01:40
Comments:
Paul Simon was on TV the other day and had some words of
wisdom. While being interviewed about his failing Broadway
stint, he said, "I'll probably never tour again. I'm not that person
anymore. People want to see me when I was 18. I can't do that.Billy Joel will probably not tour again. Seems he is focusing on
writing some classical stuff.Pretty sad time.
Where are we headed Donald and Walter? Is this the end?
I find myself buying more and more old stuff from music stores.
My parents were L. Armstrong followers. They held on to that music like it was gold. I see a same patteren. Music today is never as good as it was when......
Name: steviedan
walk between the raindrops
CA
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 07:17:26
Comments:
re:misread lyrics: I once had a Korean import of 'Greatest Hits' that contained a lyric sheet that had been translated , as best they could by some Korean government official no doubt ...some lyrics I remember:
from DR.Wu:...."where the Q bomb gentlemen sleep all night"
from 'Western World': "it all comes out on the inside even to Ali"......wait there's more ...let me dig the sheet out of my box of 'Dan-dom relics....
re: Sweet's updated bio: Unless he takes that picture of Donny Fagen age 12 out I don't think he will get much input from Fagen......and how about editing out that chapter with Kenny Vance?
re:2 degrees of seperation: What is the connection between Fagen and Becker and The Tijuana Brass......a clue: Warner Brothers 1978????
Name: oops
sorry
Location: x, x x
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 02:59:19
Comments:
...it should be Barney Hoskyns...
Name: clas
c@w
Location: x, x x
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 at 02:57:27
Comments:
OLE; no, the nearest I can come to it in swedish is "upplevde" which kind of means experienced. "Upp" is up, "levde" is lived.
STEVIE DAN; yeah, that photo from the studio during Katy-sessions with Donald at the Grand and Becker on bass and Diaz. It´s a great shot and it was such a long time ago...
It´s interesting to read about Fagens thoughts on how he was inspiered by Muzak.Yes, Barney Hoskins is a great writer.
Audi and out,
c
Name: Double Felix
interjectory
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 23:15:05
Comments:
A playboy jewell thief? How old is he? Timeless? Frozen in time?
"No flies on me."
Is he like Tom Cruise? Who would break up with Tom Cruise? Ohh...Tom Cruise does the breakin' up...
"Sorry Angel I must take what I see."
4/4 time in the bridge. No time to reflect. No Adagio.
"I remember the look in your eyes."
I Don't Mind,DF
Name: oleander
un amour de Dann
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 19:49:34
Comments:
YGK--Loosely speaking. Actually, I'll probably be staying in the Slope. Will let you know.
Roy--Hah! I could say something about Clinton BUT I WON'T. The reason I did that did that was I got one of those annoying "transmission interrupted" messages messages. SKY BAR! You unfailingly shoulder your way into my better childhood memories. I just rode the wormhole back to Jack's Deli in Arlington Forest, one of my boon hangouts, and if not sampling Zagnuts, Neccos, or White Owl bubblegum cigars, I was carefully choosing which Sky Bar section to start on!
Mr. La--Right. It's raining now and already starting to freeze. We'll wake up to a lovely blanket of black ice.
maj--I took your advice, and on my trip to Louisville last weekend I put Citizen, Kama, NF, & 11TOW on permashuffle and the miles just flew.
Dread mo'--did you know that you are immortalized in an English folk song--as "The Lord of Moray"--as quoted in the intro to "'Scuse Me While I Kiss This Guy"? More (really) dysheard lyrics: "We'll move up to Manhattan/And fill the place with ferns." And "Brooding charisma" or "Brewed in charisma." Which I kind of like.
Why doesn't the English language have words for combined sensory experiences? Like a concert? "I saw/heard Steely Dan...." Or "I smelled/tasted Edd's vindaloo...." It's neither one nor the other, but both, or more. Is there anything that expresses that? Clas, how about in Swedish?
Name: David
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Not Barrytown,
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 18:18:14
Comments:
Guess: Guess this. Dr. Fagen's genius on the Wurlitzer, does not compare to any Rhodes, that he has played upon. The weekend, at the College? Talk to us Doctor.
Name: RubyBaby
it takes a thief
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 18:10:03
Comments:
RoyScam and Others: You are right - that was quite a cynical view of Green Earrings. But how could you believe I would write such a thing? I must tell you that it was my evil twin, Elvira, who posted that using my name! (I had hoped never to reveal her existence, but since she misbehaved, I thought it best).Ruby's real thoughts on Green Earrings: It's a silhouette in song about a very classy and handsome art "collector". He steals only rare and beautiful art, this time in the form of jewelry. But he's extremely polite - he says sorry and calls her angel. Twice! Rather Cary Grant/Robert Wagnerish. Of course, he has stolen her heart, as well...
btw, I have punished Elvira. I duct-taped her to a chair and forced her to wear rose colored glasses and drink Eberle Muscat Canelli. She screamed, oh yeah, she screamed.
rb
Name: guess?
fl@ck
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 17:38:10
Comments:
d: i AM something special...your vices are your own, my friend.
what does aja have to do with anything?
Name: felonius
my@oldfriend
Location: annandale, NYC other
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 16:05:17
Comments:
my GOD! there are other fools!
Name: YGK
..
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 13:43:08
Comments:
OLE-O: Sounds good - keep us apraised of your plans - perhpas we can find something a little more interesting to do. I'll check with my baby - also a Dr. BTW, are you a Dr. of Medecine? She's a Dr. of Econ.
Anyway, nothing's engraved in Stonem but perhaps we could meet...ygk
Name: Joe M.
@same
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 10:23:06
Comments:
steviedan,
Hoops! mailing list reports a new Sweet penned Dan bio due out March-ish. One would hope for a better researched and annotated outing from Mr. Sweet this time...
Name: steviedan
babies@peculiarway
Location: Too Much Rain, CA Tumbling in to the sea
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 10:11:12
Comments:
hey oleander: thanks for the regards for my new addition...he seems to like Pretzel Logic (lp).......I think my Steely cd's may be the only things worthwhile that I can pass on to him from my 'wonder years'.....that and my baseball cards of course!......
clas: that is a geat book....it has a good chapter on the 'Dan and even a rare shot from the 1974 'Katy Lied' sessions...I wish the author would write a full 'Dan bio as I think there is definitely room for a second bio....
steely/eagles connections: few people seem to remember that Eagle Hall of Famer Tim Schmit sang (?) on a number of 'Dan hits..........
and as for Santana, their track record throughout much of the 1970's was abysmal....Sanatana had three great album from 1969 through 1971 and a few hit singles but little after that...Steely Dan on the other hand continually released strong albums that contained clever Top 40 hits...in fact for the calender year of 1978 Steely Dan had a least one single on Billboards Hot 100 all year...plus they produced a great jazz album for Warner Bros. that year
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 10:00:56
Comments:
Finah,
The eagle has landed. Mr. Woods and Orchestra sounding very Mingus-like indeed... and I ask you, is their ANY genre NOT covered in Mr. Erskine's repertiore? Counterpoise in process.
Dan sideman alert:Thursday, Feb. 12, Carnegie Hall, Michael Brecker to do a Coltrane tribute date featuring Trane's "A Love Supreme"... These are way a few of my favorite things.
Name: Roy.Scam
nun taken
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 09:43:56
Comments:
Mr. L.P.-- Re: mistaken flaming. I didn't mean to sound defensive. No sweat. I did have to look up 'nugatory' though. I thought it was one of those 4 compartments of a Sky Bar candy bar.
Oleander-- "Missed her lap (age)" is not only a great homonym, but a pretty good defense for a statuatory rape charge.
Ole--Didn't you just correct something that was already correct? Maybe you should be a producer for Steely Dan.
Re Green Earrings: When I first heard the song, I thought it was about a guy who steals jewelry to give to his girl. He feels a little apologetic about it, but when he sees her sparkling smile, and the look in her eyes, he no longer minds. I was probably wrong, but I think I'll keep listening through my romantic filter rather than subscribe to the colder cynical interpretation. Hey, it's art. I can hear what I want to.
RS
Name: MrLaPage
officing
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 06:18:48
Comments:
FezChick: Sometime back, someone -- I don't remember anymore -- posted a Green Earrings analysis. Something about a playboy jewel thief. It seemed to make sense. Cold-hearted ladies' man with a penchant for stealing the hearts and jewels of the women he could con. Disbelief? He don't mind.
oleander: That much snow? I didn't believe it, but I heard that the whole town and much of I40 was closed. Hang in there. The thaw's a-comin' soon.
Name: clas
c@w
Location: Strange Days, Weird Scenes
Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 at 00:12:21
Comments:
I guess Ruby use to step on ants. But I don´t think she´s enjoying it.
Name: oleander
why-o-why me?
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 19:49:59
Comments:
Whaaa? It's supposed to be:
Fez, Missed Her Lap, Roy: I'll never stroll that aisle the same way again....
Name: oleander
waiting for the snow
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 19:46:33
Comments:
...to melt; we had a foot dumped on us Tuesday, and if you've never seen a Southern town try to dig out after a snowstorm, you don't know funny.
Clas--Got it! But don't tempt me--I'm diligently ignoring it until my homework's done.
Fez, Missed her Lap, Roy--I'll never stroll that aisle the same way again. Thanks for making a poor neglected appliance fresh again. By the way, didn't Nixon say, "I am not a douche bag?" Or was that Don Henley?
stevie dad--mazel tov! Another Steely baby born, and a world to carry on.
YGK and other New Yorkers--If everything goes as planned, I'll be hitting NYC on Valentine's weekend. You be around? This time's for real. How about Le Bar Bat on Sat. nite?
Name: Double Felix
@ndromed@
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 19:33:52
Comments:
Green Earrings refers to the green oxidation common on copper objects. Though the "rings of rare design" may have sparkled like gold, they were not. This song heralds the beginning of the bronze age, and ironically enough, appears on a platinum album.
With a Little Help from Mr. Peabody,
DF
Name: David
davess88keys@hotmail.com
US
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 14:54:04
Comments:
RubyBaby: Your words are important. Do not shoot 'til you see the white in their eyes. Life, as we know it, is us. Those that hear messages without being sent, will be those that some will listen to. RubyBaby: have you ever stepped on an ant? David, a true and true Dan Fan.
Name: RubyBaby
@the raisin capital, maybe
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 13:27:47
Comments:
Clas: I like the Hotel California from the Hell Freezes Over tour album best. Small changes can mean a lot.Fezchick: Not many of us have actually had to shoot animals for food. But I've heard that sometimes people witnessed a look of fear in the animal's eyes before they went ahead & shot them anyway. They had to disregard that look in their eyes for the sake of their family's survival. The lyrics of Green Earrings seem to express a conscious disregard for another in the pursuit of satisfying a hunger, ignited by primal needs/desires which are common to all. It speaks of a cold and daring person. And may I add, dangerous. Of course, this is just my humble o.
rb
Name: Aja
sierraluna@juno.com or SIERRALUNA@prodigy.net
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 12:49:00
Comments:
nickels - Sorry about leaving, I got disconnected from my ISP. Either that or I offended you with a crass word. I’m sorry if that was the case. I have few vices, but swearing like a sailor is one of them, but I'm trying to break the habit. Besides the topic I spoke of isn’t that funny to me tonight. Maybe on a better day, but not after the past few weeks.
oops forgot what else I was going to say,
Aja
Name: fezonorth
butshelooked18yourhonor.com
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 12:16:58
Comments:
Adding to Clas' story about Henley's bust with the underage girl a bit (if I may be so bold):
His defense, which I read in GQ way back in pre-GB days when I looked at print publications for entertainment, was that the girl was but one of many prostitutes he had hired for the end of the tour party he had graciously hosted at his house. He thought it safer for him as host to provide both drugs and sex to his friends as opposed for everyone having to hit the streets in pursuit of one or both. Shortly after the party ended, there was a fire at Don's house and one of the firemen discovered the underage girl passed out in a hottub. Don said he had no idea she was only sixteen and that he had relied on the representations of the ladies' pimp as to the legal age of all the hookers.
If only events were ever so exciting up here in the frozen north . . .
Name: MrLaPage
notmyintention
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 11:21:54
Comments:
Roy.Scam: I wasn't trying to flame you. Sorry if you took it that way. I was actually trying to flame the folks who critcize your posts as pretentious and your word choice as ostentatious. To be honest, I just wanted to type the phrase "douche bag." And the '32 Ford thing, well, whatever. Lest Noah Clap's arguments be rendered nugatory, . . .
clas: I witnessed some folks doing some "Hoorah, hoorah, hoorah, hoooo-rahhh" Scando thing. Know what I'm talking about? Sure you do. It tends to lose its appeal when done with club soda.
I saw -- on MTV -- the pinhead who wrote the misheard lyrics books. The Ramones, "I Want a Piece of Date Bread." Who could possibly get that from the song? Oh well.
Name: Clas lundkvist
atelje.lundkvist@mbox300.swipnet.se
Location: tinseltown,
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 09:39:08
Comments:
Sorry I have been away for a while. But girls, here I am!
I am reading a fantastic book, a great book, well-edited too, Ole; Barney Hoskyns "Waiting For The Sun". It´s about the music scene in Los Angeles from the 50s to the 90s. 27.50 bucks.
"And if California slides into the ocean
As the mystics and statistics say it will
I predict this motel will be standing
Until I´ve paid my bill..."
Warren Zevon, 1976
And now, an oficial apology to Walter Becker;
"By the time "Eagles Live" appeared in late 1980, moreover, Don Henley had been busted in the company of a stoned, naked 16-year-old girl. He was subsquently charged with possesing cocaine, quaaludes and marijuana and to the delinquency of a minor.
Henley got off lightly: a 2.500 dollar fine with two years probation..." Barney Hoskyns, Waiting for the Sun.
I am sorry, but my point is still the same; we all still think that Hotel California is a great song, don`t we?
Audi and out,
Clas
Name: Clas lundkvist
atelje.lundkvist@mbox300.swipnet.se
Location: tinseltown,
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 09:37:09
Comments:
Sorry I have been away for a while. But girls, here I am!
I am reading a fantastic book, a great book, well-edited too, Ole; Barney Hoskyns "Waiting For The Sun". It´s about the music scene in Los Angeles from the 50s to the 90s. 27.50 bucks.
"And if California slides into the ocean
As the mystics and statistics say it will
I predict this motel will be standing
Until I´ve paid my bill..."
Warren Zevon, 1976
And now, an oficial apology to Walter Becker;
"By the time "Eagles Live" appeared in late 1980, moreover, Don Henley had been busted in the company of a stoned, naked 16-year-old girl. He was subsquently charged with possesing cocaine, quaaludes and marijuana and to the delinquency of a minor.
Henley got off lightly: a 2.500 dollar fine with two years probation..." Barney Hoskyns, Waiting for the Sun.
I am sorry, but my point is still the same; we all still think that Hotel California is a great song, don`t we?
Audi and out,
Clas
Name: x
x@w
Location: c, c
Date: Sunday, February 1, 1998 at 09:28:15
Comments:
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