SIS Archives -- August 2000

From the "Why Is Kelly Telling Us This Department?":

"FM" intro = "I Know There's An Answer/Hang On To Your Ego" intro

"eveything's groovy" could also be a tip of the fez to the Danny Yost and the Classics Four's "Spooky." There's some similarity in structure. Just have sampled the MP3, but the CD is on it's way - got that paycheck today that's as rare lately as a summer shower.

Gonna have to hustle with the songwriting... no choice but squeeze some ditties with "working lyrics." I call this one Texas Outhouse Blues:

It's a hundred and seven wailin' degrees
and there's ain't no fuckin' breeze
Just can't cure this dis-ease
illusion of a Sundance striptease

A shriveled worm's now a glaze
set off in a cherry blaze
Sergeant major's withheld my pay
downing tequila moonbeams at Casa Ole

Dropping verga from my brow
but crying time is now
Educating Conchita on the plow
While Zombie tips the black cow

maybe Steely Dan was the buzzkillers in this situation, perhaps they could have asked for it to be taken down.

It's a stretch, sure, but there aren't a whole lot of obvious answers in this situation.

Next step, write a song called "Like a Don Henley Breakfast," post it, and wait.

caramia--well, Steely waters run deep, because my intention in posting tonight is to do a little exegesis on this song we've both been listening to:

"Like A Steely Dan Movie"

[perhaps a reference to "Everyone's Gone To The Movies." The Steely oeuvre, of course, is one long film noir festival]

I made the calls to the Black Friday boys
They said they would jump but without all the noise
They break it down easy
Pack it up complete
But don't you ever use their names on the street

[could the Black Friday Boys be the Duo? "Jump" might be a ref to their unstoppable jazz/ rock beats, and "without all the noise" to free jazz, a la Arthur Blythe and friends, or the Duo's erstwhile aversion to most publicity--not to mention not using "their names on the street." "Break it down easy"--quite ironic in ref to a band with such complex chords and arrangements, not to mention refusal to discuss their lyrics. I also think of Thelonious Monk and Bud Powell as possible BF Boys, or maybe Blaise and tom, or a teasing ref to the Back Street Boys]

Rikki's in town makin' calls on the line
Seeking the pleasure of time out of mind
Boots on the pavement, a striding night flyer
Tracking her down and sliding beside her

[kind of a noir dadaism a la Daumal's "A Night Of Serious Drinking" or "Naked Lunch." Rikki of course refers to a popular talk show hostess, who costarred in "Crybaby" with Johnny Depp, and "time out of mind" to Bob Dylan's most recent lp. The "night flyer" makes me think of "Citizen Kane" and his Flexible Flyer, Rosebud (hope I didn't spoil it for anyone!). The jackboots, "tracking her down"--more frissonogenic, Kafkaesque images. Sliding--I seem to remember something there--having to do with youth, and wheels--Hank, help me out here. And at the end of this verse there's a lick from a very famous jazz song by Horace Silver.]

He's the man on the stand in that Steely Dan movie
Where some things are illicit, but everything's groovy

[great line. "Man on the stand"--perhaps a ref to the Sacco and Vanzetti trial, or the VanDoren quiz show scandal of the '50's (see "Quiz Show" with Ralph Fiennes [babe] and John Turturro [nonbabe but great actor (if you haven't seen "The Big Lebowski," stop right now, go rent it and come back when you're done)])]

Do what you can, go see that Steely Dan movie
Do zah do wah makin' fast sell bezabbadoovay

[echoes of every great scat singer from Sarah Vaughn to Al Jarreau by way of Sinatra and Dean Martin--do you think he's going for showgirl and Rat Pack here?]

Altamira, female on the lam

[Not sure what the well-known archeological site in Northern Spain has to do with a pun on young sheep--maybe a ref to the cave drawings?]

Sunglasses on, sittin' by a third world man

[I happen to know that the author used to don (no pun intended!) sunglasses and dress as the Invisible Man--so Third World Man would be a ref to Ralph Ellison's landmark work, no?]

A dinosaur, a roach, there's just one he must approach
To consume that fruity spread until it's done
(He's the lucky one)

[Well, at last someone who also digs Was/ Not Was! I love that little nod to "Walking The Dinosaur"! And who would have thought of "One Toke Over The Line" in the same breath?? What range! The "fruity spread" is either a nod to Peter Gabriel in "Sledgehammer" ("show me 'round your fruit cage") or maybe another scene from "Naked Lunch," or... apple butter... jelly... marmalade.... That "he's the lucky one" rings a bell--some sea chantey or other, maybe?]

Unwrap her gift and take your bit of time
I'm sure you'll find it exceptionally fine
Boots on the floor, poncho on table
Savin' what's made and robbin' the cradle

[ooh, I'm not gonna touch this one except to say it's kinda like the opposite of an aerial view of Janie Runaway! -- and again, a retro ref to '50's westerns or their early postmodern successor, "Fistful of Dollars" (see below, "with a gun")]

She's a Katy lyin' there
In a Steely Dan movie
In a smoky, dusty room with music that's bluesy
Do what you can, go live that Steely Dan movie
do zop do wah makin' snails wail bezavadoovay

[A very unexpected nod to Taj Mahal's "She Took The Katy." Does this guy's taste knock you out, or what? Nice ambience, and a flavor of Smoky Robinson and Dusty Springfield.... Snails--I get a flicker here--what's the French word for that?]

Rikki, get the bag
Do you have to go in drag?
Did daddy take her home?
Or leave her all alone?

[Again, in "Crybaby," Divine played Ricki Lake's mother--in drag! And unfortunately daddy did leave the subject alone and in the clutches of Mr. LaPage!]

I'll call you when I'm at the end
It's just 'round the corner
Past the bend

[a description of the Dan's labyrinthine lyrics? What respect this guy has for Our Heroes]

He heard the call, it was perfectly clear
Loud enough for his sick mind to hear
Arrived at the place, hiding his face
Waiting for the time it would be done

[Now just a second. Is he intimating that Messrs. Fagen & Becker have sick minds?!? I resemble that remark! "Heard the call"--another drug ref? to the cane knocking on the red door, maybe? "Hiding his face" has got to be a nod to Andrew Lloyd Weber and the phamous Phantom. (He knows his musicals too!)]

(*something something*Mu, Hank, help me out here) with a gun
Unlocked the door and took a look around
He never saw the underground that he found
His poncho is gone, hung in a stable
The voodoo display is part of the fable

["Underground" by Ben Folds Five. Or maybe "WUNDerground"? There's that poncho again. But is our author getting religious with this "stable" bit? And immediately slapping us around with a Gibsonian ref to Voudoun?--chere, help me out here. "Fable"--see Aesop.]

He's a missing person there in that Steely Dan movie
Where the evil doesn't care
It's so vile and it's broody
In a darkened room you'll see that Steely Dan movie
Where most things are illicit but everything's groovy

["missing person"--what'd I say about "Invisible Man"? I rest my case. Nice anthropomorphism of evil. "Vile," of course, is an anagram of you-know-what. "Broody"--like "Brut," a popular cheap '70's men's cologne. What limbic backwater did he dredge that up from? (sorry, RS) Or maybe it's "gloomy," or "rheumy." And again back to the '70's for a little Simon & Garfunkel; nice contrast between "illicit" and the tinkle of "everything's/ feelin' groovy."]

What a fun song! Even has a little Dan content!

Links:

Deconstruction appears on Edd's page
Howard will have the chords ready next week
There will be seven parodies by Monday
The remaster with liner notes will be available in 2010 on www.malcolmhunter.com

Someone asked me to list the songs on this new CD I saw in a store the other day by Becker and Fagen named "Masters"
Are these songs late Dan (Aja, Gaucho, Nitefly) or earlier, more rock oriented Dan (most of the stuff before Aja except Dr. Wu)

1)Android Warehouse
2)Horse In Town
3)More To Come
Ida Lee
5)Stone Piano
6)Take it out on Me
7This Seat's Been Taken
8)Brain Tap Shuffle
9)Come Back Baby
10Don't Let Me in
11)Old Regime
12)Mock Turtle Song
13)Soul Ram
14)I Can't Function
15)Yellow Peril
16)Let George Do It

Is this stuff any good? This CD came out in 99.

you like the world surfing into your hard drive every time you log in

YGK: I'll bet napster would support you... They even encourage users to go to the New Artist site...

I know - the word "napster" sounds so sleezy,
kinda like "nabster."
But can't we get past that? One mp3 site is like another...
well, napster gets so many hits, I suppose it's better.

Shall I look for you on there?

I promise, when I move in 2 weeks, I'll buy your groovy tunes. I want the REAL THING, baby!

Are there liner notes? Did you sign any? Are there photos?
Don't tell me - the ear candy is the important thing.

rb

Starr: Mr. Gold, if that's your real name, were you in fact writing a song about a porno film on last November 23?

YGK: I don't understand. I did not even go to a porno flick that night...

Starr: I mean this reference to a "Steely Dan movie." We know what that means don't we (raised eyebrow)?

YGK: Steely Dan is a jazz/rack group...the best.

Starr: Mr. Gold. Come now, that's a phallacy. We've got pictures and photocopy records of you checking out the entire Burroughs collection out of the NYC Public Library in 1993. Let's move on...Here we have direct "oral" evidence of consorting with an illegal alien...

Assistant Prosecuter: psst... Mr. Starr. Puerto Rico is part... (mumblemumblemumble)

Starr: Ahem, Mr. Gold, just listen to this passage concerning an obvious S&M relationship...model prisoner. This is certainly a veiled reference for pouring slimfast over the strewn nude body of a young, hot, writhing nubile female, like one of those sick Hitchhiker episodes years ag...

Assistant Prosecuter: psst...Mr. Starr, your blood pressure...

Starr: Oh, yes... Mr. Gold, do you have anything to say?

YGK: Keep talking and my sales rating will hit 70%...

I have always been a little concerned about the way mp3.com does things....their sales structure is a bit much (50%), and users are encouraged to register with multiple user stations, so eventually your site on mp3 becomes a linkfest, which has worked for some.....so I've had a see-saw approach to the whole site, hating it one day, and getting excited about it the next, so I figured I'd drop in some of my mp3 clips....play their game, and run with it....it's all about exposure, on one side. All of the clips need to be approved for posting on their site, so I laughed out loud when I saw the following today:

Date:Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:43:03 -0700
From: onhold@mp3.com | Block address
Subject:Re: inapprp. content - song [#546182]
To: mrdbh@yahoo.com

Dear MP3.com artist,

This song has been placed on hold and has not
been released to the public for the following reason

Inappropriate Content:
Song:
Your song has either a song title or lyrics
that are offensive or otherwise inappropriate.

Regards,
MP3.com

--------------------------------------------------
REASON:
inapprp. content - song

SONG TITLE: Like A Steely Dan Movie

So, once again, folks, "Steely Dan" is taboo!

ygk

chat anyone?

I just got tired of looking at the same post and thought this would be a great time to come out of the lurking closet. You guys are a kick!

end of the workday on the east coast, have a nice evening all....

these things are gone forever

I have a copy of Clockdrive World and I continually play it. It's a great CD-great musicianship and songwriting. Buy it, folks!

Aja

Copies go to River Sound?

Oh geez. They're likely to know where I stole all my chords from!

Gentleman Loser - sunny Syracuse, NY is where my tribe originated. Many members migrated to Rochester so I know it well there too.

21st is okay with me, I can extend my Conn. stay a couple of days. What do other dan-fans want to do here?

The Clinton Administration did its level best at exploiting Rumours into a sound bite for the Democratice party; thus I have the CD memory permanently set for play of every song but Don't Stop. My favorites are The Chain and Gold Dust Woman, with Never Going Back Again in a close third.

Am I getting hazed? Do I have to wear a bag over my head so as to not be recognized in New Haven?

let your madness run with mine......

(okay who cheats and looks at the lyrics listing on the page? Up until this posting, I can honestly say, doing it from memory - but today I'm drawing a total blank, the tune to Sarah won't leave my head for some reason, maybe I'm getting burnt - oh no, help Wormy!)

LP

ruby baby- Thanks for asking..."Clockdrive World" was my first attempt at a solo CD. It's still available at my website (page 3)
www.davidmooremusic.com
the CD was released January of this year and a couple of GB people did buy it...my heartfelt thanks to them.I tried to give a complimentary copy to anyone who showed up at the Tampa Danfest. But I was the only one there...LOL.
Just for the record,I've sent them out to 3 continents and it continues to sell on my Gigs. Because my playing schedule is a busy one, JW Malibu has asked me to submit another song from the CD to Technocolor Motorhome 2. I just haven't had time to record...but I am writing towards my Next CD release.

For those not familiar: After eons of talking about it, we finally put together last year a compilation album of original music by members of the GB community. It was called "Technicolor Motorhome", and featured music from three continents, and the 75+ copies were distributed to places as obscure as Hong Kong and a certain "River Sound" studio...it was a smashing success and needless to say, we're doing it again! Depending upon how many submissions we get, it may be a single OR double-CD. Here's what we've got so far:

Standard for submission: All original music, 5-6 minutes or less, no covers or uncleared samples. Submissions should be on CD or DAT, but cassette is acceptable.

Drop-dead Deadline: December 1, 2000

Please mail your submissions to my office:

John Warren
Integrated Data Concepts, Inc.
1800 North Vine Street
Suite 222
Los Angeles, CA 90028

Here's the tally so far:

I. Artists who have already submitted music for this year:
A. Clas (99 alumni)
B. YGK (99 alumni)
C. jk
D. RoyScam (99 alumni)
E. David/FloridaRoom (has a whole album of great tunes called "Clockdrive World" ~ buy it!) (99 alumni)
F. JWMalibu (99 alumni)

II. Artists who have indicated an interest in participating:
A. Midnite Cruiser (99 alumni)
B. Worm Tom
C. Miz Ducky
D. Lisa G.

III. Other folks who I'd personally like to see participate:
A. The REST of the 99 alumni
B. KD
C. Howard the Chordmeister
D. Edd
E. DLEESTAN
F. Beast w/o a Name
G. ...and the rest of the musician/composers in hiding!

Happy composing!

JWMalibu
www.thekatbox.com/casellastudio

Sorry if a repeat:
Rickie Lee Jones cover of "Show Biz Kids" with Joe Jackson on her new album:
http://www.dallasobserver.com:80/issues/2000-08-31/outthere.html

SD tour just doesn't make the english versions of the Euro papers so far.

October 20 in New Haven - the 20th is a Friday - how about the 21st, makes things a little easier for those that have to work or travel.

Besides Yale, the old (original)Josie, Skull and Bones (what do they do with all of that water?), coal fired pizza that Frank Sinatra would send for take out from NYC for, New Haven is also know for Jim Morrison being arrested there for excessive ludness, or something of that nature which he later incorperated into one of his songs.

Ruby a chargé le feu, met en fonction le disque de scènes d'amour de Diana Kralls et fait des mémoires plus douces, me commence par la " peau un raisin ", regarde dehors

Blaise - my eyes may not be the only thing up
Unlike you uncouth Canadians, I'll fit in and take a more subtle approach bon fille indeed

that link Rosie url was funny, was that you blaise?
look at the response letters, wow

wt

you be the show girl, I'll be Sinatra

David in the FL room: What is Clockdrive World? I must have been powdering my nose...

lombiz de tierra que es tom: I've never even heard one note from Diana Krall, but I'm willin'. Thang que 4 the tip!

Once, I asked my beau, as you call him, "If I could sound like any female singer, who would you want it to be?" Without any hesitation he said, "Ann Wilson." That lack of hesitation gets me, y'know

Girls - learn from my mistakes...

Clas: I've come to see that your Music Mind is like a steel trap - you should leave the paper and ooohh, the pencil at home with Pompe. He can chew on it. It would be put to better use. If you just enjoy - live in the moment - you will come back to us with such descriptions, you will sound like t s eliot. But if you try to capture your impressions on paper before they get a chance to breathe inside of you, all will be lost.
As for the download thingy, I can only surmise. I suppose a Swedish download is different from a Polish download... ?

rb

Rose Darling,
looks like we have a party pooper at

http://www.new-life.net/mastrbte.htm

bare 'riffs: I'm chalking that up to the Euro/U.S. time difference, and the new laptop mic Walt bought you.

If you get bored during Ricky's solo, give us a ring...

SHAME!

"I'm the one" (Black Cow, Glamour Pro)?
KD - Heard the single, not the album.
Clas - Oui parle moi doucement comme ca. Je te pardonne.
Wormy - You expect me to believe that you'll keep your eyes up in St-Tropez...

From Don't Stop to Go Your Own Way - The Clinton years.

Cara Mia - This is the Internet and you're talking to a ghost.
Gina, come back...

Cara Mia: What is this I read about YGK's (Malcolm's) WONDERGROUND RADIO? Sonds interesting to me. Such it is being a newbie that Im attempting to not let cool stuff slip through my fingers. A little info would be great

On the newbie note: if accosted by one of the regulars I would be willing to participate in a hazing of one of the sorts listed

Is anybody from new york? I dont mean the city, more like the rochester area. Just curious
toodles
gentleman loser

Rumours is great because:

(1) It really captures the era
(2) It was recorded before the "golddust" started seeping into Stevie's brains so she still had her voice and looks.
(3) Lindsay Buckingham is a latter day Brian Wilson and like Brian he needs band mates to keep him from going too far astray. "Rumours" was the album where the rest of the band did the best job at both riding and reigning him in.

whoever asked: i have no idea where i'm going in Pennsylvania. just going to follow my hosts and hope like hell they don't decide to suddenly speed away

10. is there gas in the car? yes there’s gas in the car
9. in the summer rain
8. and the way that they smile
7. take a good look it’s easy to see
6. the crying time
5. eff, ey-um
4. the dreams I don’t have now
3. and I almost got there
2. here at laughing pines
2. the details of desire..shimmering
1. don’t stop now...honey

was spinning Making of Aja again the other day

the section where they are analyzing Aja

I don't have the direct quote (shoot me)
but basically they talk about the ideas for many songs coming into one extended track and how wonderful an experiment and that after that experience they went "immediately" back to "short and concise"

sorry I don't count West Of Hollywood in that fold,
extended yes, but too tied to one groove

but oh for the boys to try another extended forey

oui?

tom

angular banjos sound good to me

I almost hate to say this, but I think "Rumours" is a brilliant album, and I've no idea why. It's everything I typically don't like, and I like it.

ggh...I can only handle Peter Green Fleetwood Mac, and not the two guys who came after that.

yes dear, how did you know?

alright Lp

who said I was mad?

I'll bestow GB godessness on you for your like of obscure Fleetwood.
Lindsey B - well he did bring along that wretched goat voiced girlfriend of his. HIs guitar talents are immense. The flawless fingerpicking of landslide had me in knots and that's one of his easy ones

alright - sorry for my actions

shall we start over Mademoiselle?

tster

Slow down, I'll tell you when

Blaise: Have you heard Arden's new CD/"Best Dress?"

I'm anxious to see how she did it.

What do you cats think of Harvey Mandel?

Cara Mia- 3 Copies! Wow...I felt like I was begging for anyone of you GB'ers to actually Buy a copy of "Clockdrive World".
I guess it's back to the Drawing board for me.

Malcolm- Still waiting for my Copy...If it's anything like your contribution to Technocolor Motorhome 1, I'm sure it's a winner.

GreenEarrings- Thanks for the Comments.

Mystery to Me is a CD played often at my house, a very good call.

Fleetwood Mac has been overlooked as a discussion item since this Cadet started humbly invading here. They are an allied band, I would say. Tusk (CD) is my favorite piece of work from them, though Mystery to Me is tied. The soul of that band is Lindsey Buckingham, though I know there will disagreement among this group on that choice. Again, as merely a layperson, I think his guitar work is phenomenal and brought the vocal harmony up a notch upon his arrival.

Don't be mad at me Wormy.

take it in your hand, all the sirens and the band

I am the eggman... i hope sir
They are the eggman... and a man of fame and fortune
I am the walrus... goo goo gee joob
jooby

today's topic of dish cuss shun?

boxers or briefs

which do don and walter wear and why?

cerebral cortex dance onward....

Fleetwood's best incarceration - the Bob Welch outfit is tickling my ears with Mystery to Me - got me Hypnotized indeed

Gina - come join in the electric kayak from time to time
best of venture - follow your heart and your dreams

Cara Mia - chaparone my ass,
and only a tourist would call himself the wonderworm of Jackson Square (I know I let Aja get away with it, she can call me anything)
Wonderworm of Audubon park more like it
enjoy the long weekend, come up for air occasionally and by all means stay hydrated there in Dollywood

LP - paranoia? not likely,
and your faithful narrator never thought you the blaizer,
I can recognize his wit from miles away
if not straight telepathicly

boy, now I feel like Austin Powers having tried to uncover the identity of Bassel's mother. Should I pull on the wig some more or apologize eloquently? puzzle the puzzler until it is sore

so Ruby - ever play Diana Krall Love Scenes for the beau?
that ought to spark off some more memorable evenings

Van's Moondance is one of my faves to look back on
the fire, the blankets and the wine... ouch

wormy

Gina!

I know Gino Vannelli...Gino is a friend of mine (sort of)...
You are... his female namesake!

When you get your new account, mail me and I will send you my photo alongside the Italian (from Montreal originally) stallion at his '91 Atlanta (INCONSOLABLE MAN)tour. In my HardKnock's Cafe collection of sign music memorabilia, GV's autograph graces my sheetmusic to "The Wheels of Life".
He lives in NoCalifornia now and just did a few shows in Italy, and one in Atlantic City, though rarely performs...what a shame.

Totziens,
cara mia

You know, reading postings in reverse order is very dizzying.

Blaise is me, and I am Blaise...

I am from Upstate, Mr. Webking.

Thank you Lady Rumble for your keen insight, only a woman would recognize another in text. And thanks to Green Earrings for clearing it up for everybody - I remembered to bring your tape to work with me today, by the way. Don't tell what kind of government official I am though. I do kind of enjoy the paranoia of my friend Wormy. Come to New Haven, my dear Wormy. Blaise, indeed...

Speaking of New Haven, okay, we start at 7 PM at TK's Amercian Cafe and then onto the jukebox thing. October 20th, no excuses.

Corpsy V, you in for this thing? I need to get my stripes, right? I try to click my heels very well.

What is today's topic?

Can you hear the evil crowd?

LOL i came to say goodbye to my former collegues and just had to wire up my old kayak and check this out, haha. quite some comments in a row, nice to be in this setting right now!

Worm, nice to know you're a "few miles" around my block for a while and in a way nearby, enjoy those frenchy features and colorful waves!

let me see...
now i better go. last official day as a liberteller-on-leave and still at the workscene. no can do, really.
can't stay away from you Strangers, right?
XXX Gina

I get the "reel them in with a single post" award for the emergence of

1- Innocent One (see, Michelle, why a gal has GOT to get a good education and not end up living on tips in some salon? SD is right, this probably is not the best of time of your life as certain adults might tell you, but have a wonderful and inspirational year while you do the college search...we adore you!)

and

2-Mark the Chimp dragging his knuckles all the way down the Champs Elysees without me, because he was too slow on the uptake for wooing ol' Marsh here ;-). Bon Voyage to you and mr. WonderWorm of Jackson Square. I'll be thinking of you guys and certain "missed opportunites" plaguing the lot of us when you two go the Frogland without ol' cara mia. Eat some escargot or lapin du mutard for me, will ya?

Ole and StevieD--I sat next to David Wilcox (post opener), as we went crazy over Richard Thompson's Band performance here in Knoxville last year, and DW graciously penned his UNDERNEATH for me. As far as age qualifying us for chaperone status at the Dan Aid doings, Ole and few others, who exactly is going to monitor OUR own over-the-top party antics?

Enjoying all the fantastic entries here from you musicians, audiophiles, readers-with-recommendations, faux romances and numbered lists, and even the occasional wisenhiemers spouting surliness.

Yes! I have YGK's (Malcolm's) WONDERGROUND RADIO in the home system CD rotation as well as #2 copy in the car, and I am saving the third disc as a gift for My New Beau. In between Viagra doses this weekend, we are going the memorize the lyrics to "Like a Steely Dan Movie"...

See you next week,
cara mia

the secret service agent guarding the prez's daughter took the bullet and saved the kid. she had it figured out, "we're looking for a 15 yr old skinhead". she had the right stuff all along and the commitment. she had it comming to her. the bullet. goodness. glory. liberal porn.

that's entertainment
westwing

that's the problem with those pearlcorders and the cadets who type out the messages.
a whole new situation. wait a minute mister cabdriver ....

and now we are on to confessionals
I must come clean, kitchen clean

I was just using Red Blaize the Giley one to get to love interest Vicki

as for the French Riviera - I personally prefer the odd chance of romance over being a geeky tourist walking the topless beaches

sorry blaise, but we have enough idiots down here ruining what used to be a fun Mardi Gras scene. And I've always enjoyed those insider oil company balcony invites to show a little class with my "show me your smile and only your smile" posters

I get the classy gals to camp it up saucy to me and leave the rest nicely to my imagination

needless to say I throw an awful lot of beads

In order to grasp the meaning of becoming a major, I am to accompany our Major Blaise when he's to give command to a special task force. My orders are to be silent and observe.
Cadet LP has shown great commitment and the way she clicks them heels, amazing, Colonel WT, LP should be in for a real special treat at the Cafe D'Escargot.
The sensitivity training in the mountains will be broadcasted next month, featuring the mules Godzilla & PeeWee who took matters in a hole new direction.

Corpsy V, packed and ready to go.

blaiser, j'ai non seulement un fetish de pied, mais j'adore des pieds d'athlètes venez à moi vous aimez sly la chose quant au tom de ver, ne voit-il pas assez de seins déjà au
mardigras à la Nouvelle-Orléans?

amour et rouge baisers
classe'

Why I think me and Clas, it won't work out:

- He's got a foot fetish and I have athlete's foot.
- He only drives Audi or Volvo S.U.V.s.
- He's got this love/hate relationship with Mizz Ducky. I'm insanely jealous.
- He's an hypocondriac. That sternum thing of his is annoying me.
- He loves Arthur's Theme, I prefer the theme song for Arthur, the cartoon.
- He misses 1972 Dan while I'm looking forward to 2002 Dan.
- One overseas relationship is enough for me to handle right now, thank you.
- I get this suspicion he got rid of Lars. Haven't seen him lately...hmmm.
- After all i was just using him to get to wormy. I have to be honest.
- Cybersex episode was a tad disappointing.

StevieDan: Soryy I can't share your enthusiasm about One Step close. One by One is also a good song, but the overall strength of the songs seems a notch below Minute By Minute, Livin' on the Fault Line or Takin' it ti the Streets. It's also WAY too studio for the Doobies - don't think it works for me. Who did they think they were: Steely Dan or something? Gettin' too close to David Foster territory for me. Just the sound of Foster's Yamaha makes me cringe. I con't have any of MMs solo stuff. MMs voice is great - most of the production sounds real dataed - like it's in the background of one of those 80s teen movies of Karate Kid III. He had some real nice singles though over the years like Sweet Freedom - especially the duets with Patti LaBelle and James Ingram.

top ten things worth waiting for on the Guest Book

12) the Sir StevieDan guide to building an inexpensive sparse but effective jazz collection for under $34,000
11) engaging internet photo url's of the flannel "and" the backless black
10) Corpsy V's promotion to Major
9) top fifty divas from Indonesia
8) a post from wormbait smitten kitten Victoria Cave
7) the full Sundance story from the person called in to post bail
6) cross dressing tips from Clas and Blaise
5) a top ten that starts with 13) or 14)
4) Howard's chord breakdown to Almost Gothic
3) that "next year" being a reality
2) 2nd arrangement commercially available on the new one
1) any post from Royscam

top ten reasons Blaise is not LP

10) he has a hard enough time being the blazer
9) luckless pedestrians get run over by reckless vehicles,
and Blaze's attention is fully "not" on the road
8) instead of moving upstate and changing his bait,
he hits the border in complete disorder
7) Blaise actually likes it out west and caught the Gorge show
6) Canadians are incapable of immitating those "so called superior" americana, just ask Mike Myers
5) he can't "spend a weekend alone together" if he has to keep up the impersonation as well
4)one would have gotten a nice spanking by now, right
3)a top ten would have slipped out under the new LP by now
2) the guy may have far too much CLAS to pull it off
1) he never crossed his old man back in oregon,
it was Saskatuwan and wow, it still rhymes

My 2 cents: LP is female, alias or no. How could anyone possibly confuse her with Blaise?! I know I'm not a GB veteran, but even in my forays into the archives I haven't detected anyone like LP. If GOLEM was here maybe he could conduct an objective personality analysis. Too bad he's out spinning discs in BC!

And apologies to St-Al for claiming one of Seattle's pride and joy. Like you don't have enough to share.lol
KD - Yes, I have to admit Jann Arden is one of my favorites in that list. I easily fall for the genuine.

Sass Jordan, sure. I haven't heard of her in a while so I skipped. Same goes for Alannah Myles, btw.
Black velvet and that little boy smile...
Wormian wonder headed for the land of topless beaches. haha
Enjoy the sights.

Stevie D - I know you can't run with us during the day
but I always look forward to your insight at night
(just wishful thinking spoken outloud)

I don't think LP is Blaise but another alias
government official hummm

Gina - enjoy, Anoek - okay

7 days to Cote d'azur but who's counting?

wormtom

I want to be your holy man

KD - thanx for the link. I went crazy here for a while, I thought that it for christ sake must at list be 50 Mike Mc Donald webpages.

Stevie - yes, I agree with you. No Lookin' Back is not one of his best.

And his latest, Blue Obsession, I was happy when I heard the first track, then it just went downhill. Strange production, no melodies, no cool grooves. It seems like he's relying too much on his great voice.

C

clas, the m mcd tune IS called "Our Love". it's from the No Lookin' Back album by m mcd. other than that tune or one or two others, not his best album for me.

Sass Jordan

Clas, yo, mate, time for a new search engine.

I personally use Da Drone:

http://www.michaelmcdonald.com/

dr Mu - no, I'm pretty sure the song is called "Our Love", the refrain is something like; "darling our love / one love that never fades away / one love...".

I tried to search the web for a Mike mc Donald Homepage but there are no! Internet really stresses the shit out of you sometimes.

RubyBABY - yes I will. That woman Blaise told me to bring a pencil, öhhh... and a paper and ööhhh, a download. Between you and me honey, how am I supposed to bring a download to the concert? Is it slang for something else?

C

thanx blaise that makes me feel better... now this gender bending... is wormy saying YOU are LP ?... if you are, you need your own show on american tv.

let me continue by saying that if you have no bill evans in your collection, change your life now and go buy one. don't listen to me though. i have at least 100 discs by him so i'm crazy, but from this vantage point, square in the middle of the Turn Out the Stars boxset, i'd say he was one of the best jazz pianists ever in the universe. or anywhere.

fezo: someone needed to say it so thanx. gov't mule is/was the "cream" of the nineties. like cream the band that is. warren won't stop i'm sure. allman bros. family folk know how to take loss but to never let it kill their music. that's artistic tenacity, people.

lisaG: you know, i just really like you my friend. please no apologies. the omega was apparently blasting SD music for retaining some level of blues-basedness. so shocking ! i would have never known oh great omega, oh end-all of pop music theoreticians. blues and r&b is obviously omnipresent. sliced, diced, spiced, spliced, extended, rear-ended. that is the extent of the "omega formula".

worm: man, if i could run with you people during the day... i can't have the internet at work, the kids that work for me would never do just that... WORK. and speaking of punks, please don't give those spikey haired musical morons any ideas. they love to take great tunes and punkify or pukify them and it's always a pointless exercise. BTW, that whole jennifer warnes album (the hunter) is great if you can find it.

DrMu puttin' down the Doob's One Step Closer. i always thought that was a pretty fine album. mike mcd's tune One By One alone made it worth picking up on cd.

"one by one, we're given these moments to live, then one by one, they're taken away"

speaking of which, best of luck to you I.O. enjoy this time of your life. not that it will necessarily be the best part, but that it will be the only time you get to pass through it.

it's official ! right beside steve morse's major impacts, in the coveted top spot (cause i am topp dogg) of the employee picks listening post sit freshly shrink-wrapped highly purchasable copies of Wunderground Radio (if you don't know what that is by now, you are a really minor lurker here). you can listen before you buy & THAT is the plan. joker, come see me. any other raleigh festers (sometimes word usage makes me pause). don't just "fester" there like a sore ! come get W.R. ! that, malcolm my friend, is what professional marketing is all about. that's why you're payin' me the big bucks. i even stickered them cleverly "steve's nyc keyboard friend". just grabs the gonads, right ? nah... the tunes should take care of that.

i have a resolution to shorten my posts...

at least it's usually only one a day. i try to quantify other regulars, their posts laid end to end instead of one long...

whatever & out amen

It's Tjeerd, not Theerd. It happens when the lights are dimmed.

No offense and particularly because she's from Holland, but i agree with Worm when it comes to the music of Candy Dulfer. She's not that bad, but she's selling an image as well and yes indeed, does use (her) sexy looks in a way. Unlike Anoek, a young woman with a voice that could stop hell from burning, timbre, volume, she has about everything. A real beautiful woman that made her own choices about the way she looks, dressed not exactly sexy, two golden teeth (!) that can't be missed in her videoclips and two CD's really worth listening to! It's ballads and rock, Anoek however loves to listen to Michael McDonald and soulful music, you can hear she has a lot of soul and personality in her voice. Trijntje Oosterhuis, she has worked with Candy a lot and has a band of her own with her brother Theerd: Total Touch. Her voice is a Maria Carey/Whitney Houston kind of voice, all techniques and stuff, but i often miss depth and true emotion. That's what thrills, after all, isn't it??????
A matter of taste here maybe, i don't know.

But i do recommend Anoek. Really!!!

When i had a cafe, we had a DJ that was a musician and he and his brother were close to the Dulfer family and played with Hans. I've been told stories about Candy ever since she was a young girl and i do respect her ways, playing with the Rosa King Band as a teen and all ...she did find her own way in the music business.
But she's no virtuoso and she knows it herself, talks about that in interviews, really. She knows what her range is and yes, she has had many opportunities and played with both jazz and pop artists, she's entertaining, nothing wrong with that!
I'm not saying she had to dress down to be taken "serious", it doesn't really matter, she has her own audience anyway. Some just need some more to get thrilled, right Worm? I agree with you, totally!
She's still learning, aware of that herself as well. What she records on CD does differ from what she does on stage, however.

Okay. Had to follow this thread..

But when i listen to music, it doesn't matter how anyone looks, it's the music that counts, really!!!!!! Looks don't make me buy an album, it makes me skip, like i used to skip Gino Vanelli's albums, i read stuff about women who fell for him etc. i thought it was teen music or the Julio Iglesias kind.. quite surprised when i came across Storm at Sunup and other albums...real neat jazzed up music..too bad i skipped that for some years, prejudiced by looks and image and what i read, so .......

Armada will "sink" in a few hours. So this is my last post for a while.
Nice it was real close to home...
Clas, enjoy the concert tomorrow and have you ever heard Blaise on the phone? i have and you will be smitten then, can't resist the sound of a Blazervoice, right Blaise? LOL and XXX for you, my canadian friend!

Now, this is not goodbye, so i'll GB read and see you then,
everyone!
Banyan Tree Bow,
Gina

she said "you're strange, but don't change." And I let her.

A little sumthin on Jay Leonhart that mentions SD, albeit with brevity:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000825/en/review-musicleonhart_1.html

Blaise--Sounds pretty unstable. Or are they propped up with snowdrifts?

chere--Yes, still in it--I'll write you with my many questions. Sending good vibes for your back.

SD--Wilcox as you know is a local boy. Up until about 2 yrs ago he lived here & performed locally a lot.

Mr. La--OK. Now does someone in my age bracket have to be a chaperone, or can I actually participate? I'm up for any table dancing, libation imbibing, or sensation sensing. Let's get lost.

LP--Relief party--great idea: Dan Aid! Maybe they'll let us use the jet.

Mu--the black one with the Belgian lace? Or that other one you like?

Herm--cool tips. Pick me up some Altoids at Ralph's, willya?

IO--right on about words, especially that kind.

Razor Boy--great idea--Mr. Becker writing a book. They both have some fine short pieces on the ODP--maybe do like that computer catalogue and have both of them in the same volume, but starting at opposite ends and upside down to one another. Two against nature.

Beast--Joe Jackson tour! I'm there.

Kitten--What songs are on this cd?

steely1--Yo man! How's the dragon-rider? Don't you think we should hip these people to Cafe Adulis? Why settle for hot wings when you can have your sinuses everted with fabulous Ethiopian food?

Miz D, GL, & Mu--thanx for bodacious fever dream material.

Low-hanging fruit picker--you too.

Re: Charlie Parker: There was a great story about him on Weekend Edition Sun. am. It should be retrievable on npr.org's archives by now.

Dangerous bathrooms?
Only when I dance.

I'd say that New Haven, Conn. is somewhat of a drive from Philly. Closer from central NJ. Wish I could join you all, but kinda tight on funds at the momento. What a shame about me. Keep the info. coming--will let you know.

I say low-flow may as well be no-flow.

Kitten-On the "blaming Dan's lyrics for the commission of some real sick crimes" notion:
You've gotta be kidding if you think that people do sick things because "the devil made them do it." TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF AND TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO DO THE SAME.
Thank you for your support.

And me so wise I bought his prize for chicken feed

Miz Ducks; Yes! on Ms. Carrie Akre. Excellent voice both sultry and strong. Her early band, The Rockfords never got the airplay but she is coming on and I'm thrilled. She is also a guest vocalist on the latest Smithereens CD (God Save The Smithereens) on a cut called "House At The end Of The World" which she co-wrote and should be familiar to you LP as the last cut on the tape.

Floridavid; Listened to the disc three times already and a different favorite each time. Thanks and not bad chops for "drummer".

Speaking of LP, she is indeed a real person living just outside of Boston and a government official so don't mess with her.

SunDANce YES! When Mr. LaPage, when?

Finally; Showers
When finishing my basement I took valuable laundry room space by insisting on a large 5x5 shower with a bench. My better half was mad and confused at the time at the loss of precious space. She now uses the shower almost exclusively having been a bath person and thanks me every week for the forsight and her silky smooth legs made so by the use of the bench and the space.
No injuries for this cowboy in the wet room.

Peace

G.E.

Mike A-- keep your money

To All:
Well the boys have departed for the "old country" and I see everyone's kind of milling about in the ol' guestbook. Good to know your all still around! What's next on the agenda? SD in the Hall of fame, Live CD, there must be somthing! I demand it! It's been a fab Steely year....no?

RE:Canadian thread-For my money it's gotta be Joni & Alanis Morrissette

I'm glad "Wormy" brought up Candy Dulfer because I happen to think she's incredible! Yes, she's easy on the eyes, and having looks is certainly a great foot in the door for a white woman from Holland who PLAYS jazz/funk sax, but she's DEFINITEY NOT a lightweight musician. She plays her ass off!

Candy is damn accomplished and VERY serious about the sax with her passion being the convergence of jazz sax with funk. Her main mentor is, of course, renowned Jazz saxaphonist Hans Dulfer, who also happens to be her father. Now in her early 30s, Candy has been recording since she was 11. She's worked with everyone from Prince to Madonna (but not Bach). She turned down touring with Prince at one point as she thought it wasn't quite her image.

But Candy first came to MY attention as a musician first and that was in 1993 when she played sax for Van Morrison's band on his 1993 tour. She was incredible--and, as a matter of fact, I was unaware at how beautiful she was at that point since I didn't have very good seats...couldn't see her--she just sounded incredible! She gave me CHILLS!

I had to go out and get her CDs. Today, I would reccommend N2K Encoded's "Best of Candy Dulfer" to get started. Her website is at http://www.candydulfer.nl

It's funny that Candy Dulfer should come up because I was actually writing for the Rotterdam and German Danfest listbots about us Danfans getting together in Germany for one of her shows which, if it's not to far, meshes perfectly with Steely Dan's show schedule in that region. With Steely Dan's fascination on funk and jazz, I (1.) hope Candy ends up on a Steely Dan album in the future or even on tour. She's got loads of talent (not to mention the visual appeal); and (2.) was hoping she might show up at least in the audience for the Rotterdam show since that area is her home town. I can't imagine her NOT being a huge Dan Fan.

Aside from her website and her CDs, if you really want to experience what Candy the musician is all about, catch Van Morrison's televised Rockplast show from the past year. Candy plays on it and clearly looks like she would fit in in her own right along side Bob S., Michael L, Cornelius and Jim P. Candy has had special guest star roles in many Van shows throughout the 90s, which in my opinion is a huge endorsement of her talents.

Anyhow, the Dandom Digest and the listbots will feature more on hooking up for a Candy Dulfer show in mid-September.

See you in Europe for the last week of SD and hopefully for Candy.

hoops!

by the way, hello to Oleander, Jane Lightning, and all other Mansfield Friday night DanFesters (sorry I couldn't make Saturday). Jane, Al's 8x10's from the Gorge and Hartford are amazing - I hope you guys are enjoying the CD's.

by the way, did that '78 boot sought by Jose Speedo ever surface? I would gladly trade my soundboard-sourced CD's from St. Louis '93 or Manassas '96 for it. mail me...

steviedan--i'm working at Carmel Mountain Supercuts. Been a busy summer. Turned 16 on August 24th and have a new job, got my licence...started school on Monday but i've missed the last 2 days because i came down with strep throat =( But yeah, thanks for asking, works hard, i just hope i feel well enough to work tommorow!!! Talk to you later

a New Haven Danfest on 10/20? hear, hear!

(or would that be "here, here"? I've always been unsure about that particular expostulation...)

there's a sports bar downtown called TK's American Cafe that has outstanding wings in like 15 different varieties. however, it also boasts a television/table ratio greater than 1 and far too many red-white-and-blue budweiser and nascar banners.

wings and other eats are available at a host of hipper establishments, of course. my personal favorite bar, Rudy's, serves no food but has by far the tastiest jukebox in New Haven.

is there anyone who wants to take on (or already has) the title of organizer? I un-nominate myself -- because I now live elsewhere and am super busy with work -- but I will happily provide input on venue, lodging, etc.

Stevie Wonders - At the CLose of the Century boxset disc two
certainly inspired some nice workstation mapping this afternoon

golden lady indeed

so when do we get a flesh and blood account from the euro tour?

for some strange reason Vicki isn't giving me a day by day electronic rose or update on the shows and a play by play account of whether I am finally getting to her

listen Vicki - Nice, France on the 15th
(two weeks and two days away)
we can head to Monaco, Cannes, Zermat Switzerland or straight into each others eyes

plain and simple

you can choose the music I'll set up my gear

(throw out the hardware lets do it right (with a 90's update))

where the hell am I?

LP-A gang of well-heeled Ivy Leaguers worshipping a band named after a dildo-they are definitely not undersexed!

Aja

I saw a CD yesterday called "The Masters" under Becker and Fagen rather than Steely Dan. It claims to contain material (other than 4 songs, one of them being "Brooklyn") that were never available commercially before.
My question is: Would someone who likes later Dan (with the exception of Dr Wu), which would include Aja, Gaucho, Nitefly like any of the songs on this CD ( if you've heard it of course), or is this another "You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It Or You etc.." soundtrack (which was pretty disappointing IMHO)?
BTW, I think some of you were a little too harsh on that z,x person. I read about that person's case in the papers a few months ago- truly tragic-it involved blaming Dan's lyrics for the commission of some real sick crimes- kind of like the Metalica thing. The f***ed up idiot got life from what I remember.

two against nature is so cool! My dad played Steely Dan to me and I loved it I know most of the lyrics. My dads name is gary.
Who makes the morning fabulous, Steely Dan do of course!

ruby baby: I didn't have a problem with the setlist at all. I love the setlist. They're great songs. I'm just pining for more variety and spontaneity from my very favorite musicians in the world. I was struck by Matt and Amanda's setlist from each gig this year at how little the setlists varied nightly and how anyone would want to see essentially the same show some 25 or 30 times in one tour. By the time I saw my 3rd show of this summer's tour, I was timing my restroom visits perfectly.

As a musician, I understand the logistics of having to arrange all those charts for a big band to play, so I can empathize.

Luckless Pedestrian: Nay to the Tappan Zee Bridge !! I'll take the ferry, thank you very much ! Actually, I saw the date of October 20th listed as a possible date for the shindig, which I would have to pass on, as it will be my birthday. I choose to let my better half plan festivities for that weekend..

I also really dug "Monkey in your Soul," a great new arrangement and a chance for a trombone solo. I think the highlights were definitely Boston Rag and Royal Scam.

Attention Joe Jackson fans: Night and Day II has a tentative release date of Oct 26th, and a tour in December.. should be very good.

Oh Canada!

Kate Bush is one for "the tape", yes, does everyone have their tape? - life is, you know, an MTV video....

Okay, here goes:

enter babbling to grown-ups
ectasy beats the grange
educating bores tortures gorillas
efforts bunking theories gladdens
either bring the gas
emulate bad toys grudgingly
elusive bongo's take ground

Did I start that?

Welcome, if a Cadet is empowered to do so, to Thelonius, my old friend; unless you are a pre-LP person which would cause me to say welcome back and pleased to meet you. The date for the dan-fest is October 20th, the place is somewhere in NEW HAVEN, CONN. that appears necessary to be able to serve hot wings and cold American beer and further allows loud under-sexed frat boys in with or without their shirts/shoes. Shouldn't be too difficult to find, since Yale is right there.

Spanking? No paddles though, okay? Undercover chain puller? Oblique, me? Never.

that's my claim to fame

mental note to self

StevieDan - musical universe - evening poster
Blaise - morning humorist

perhaps we could get Sir Steven on our day schedule
and elevate the musical end

damn it - listening to Van's Too Long In Exile
why I hadn't owned this disc before is beyond me
pulled out liner notes

no no no - Candy Duffler on Alto Sax
nothing earth moving but she actually fills in okay

I'm sorry but this women is such a poor excuse to sell Jazz in the wrappings of sex (some marketing moron's excuse for getting the unaware into Jazz via the pinup)

why can't I have a job at a major record label doing full boxsets layouts and reissues with stellar bonus tracks (the sequencing alone would be worth the price of admission)

thelonius - ask and consider yourself invited, simple enough

is Jennifer Warnes "Big Noise New York" with DOnald the most obvious and enjoyable Joni vocal ripoff phrasing????

wormy

the busy world was not my home, so I went to find my own

I watched that Sade live video and dispite a wonderfull bare midriff nothing breathtaking and memorable happened
then again Snake Mary stayed up late

so how does one get an invite to these dan outings?

enjoy those top tens, real gut wrenchers

Come on guys..........this Canadian Vocalist thread is so fucking boring

From Canada: Don't forget Jane Siberry. Definitely in the category of "ethereal female singers," which sometimes I can only take in small doses, but when she's on for me she's fabulous.

From elsewhere: Kate Bush. Yeah, another "ethereal female singer," but with major intensity. My favorite album of hers is "The Sensual World." Aptly named--rowr!!

And there's a local-to-Seattle singer named Carrie Akre--she'd been the lead singer with Hammerbox and Goodness, and is just about to release a solo album. Far from ethereal--this woman can really belt when she wants to. Her previous bands were kinda grunge-oriented, but well-done in that genre. But I've heard the single off her new album on a local Seattle station--song entitled "Humdrum," which is anything but--and it has a smokey soul groove that absolutely blew me away.

Okay, two more: Johnette Napolitano, lead singer for Concrete Blonde--another rocker with such a fabulous voice that she doesn't have to screech to make an impact. And Alison Moyet--wonderfully bluesy voice to let loose on Britpop confections.

P.S. Man would I love to attend one of these stave-off-the-post-tour-depression wingdings, but having blown all my remaining discretionary income on something frivolous like a condo, I'm kinda strapped for traveling money. Anything shaking on the Left Coast? (so to speak?)

/the Mam'zelle
guess which were the first CDs she unpacked after moving in?

EBTG-if you are who I think you are, cheer up, they weren't worth it anyway!

Craig-(oh so lol) havin' fun, feet on the ground, saw the warning lights immediately, thanks (some of us weren't so lucky). See you in Sundance, New Orleans, and Bridgeport; I'm bringing both the flannel and the black dress.

Aja

Blaise: Jann Arden covered one of my uncle's songs, "Best Dress," on her new album. It's a nasty little song, I love it. The album hasn't been released here but it's gone Gold up north.

It's interesting how deep rooted certain memories are.

I grew up in a very quiet, rural neighborhood. My parents were/are both "music friendly", so there was always music coming from either the "hi-fi" (this *was* the 50's) or from the big ol' Hammond that dominated the living room. As a result, summer evenings always had some sort of music accompanying them.

That memory never crosses my mind except when I hear one of two songs...

"...a little music from the house next door", Summer Breeze - Seals and Crofts

"...someone's playing a violin", One Place - EBTG (Different instrument, but it fires the same synapses...)

Somehow, the sounds eminating from car owned by the bass-deaf kid down the street don't inspire the same warm fuzzies.

ebtg

entice butter tantelize gorge
exactly by total grace
envy boy tom's gun
empty bombastic total gargling
enhanced belgium topless gals
even barbados tempts gentlemen
excentuate bedside torn garments

you may be on to something

for that spanking!

EBTG?

enough bile, ten gags?

AJa and Rubie - eye and ear in the hands of Mother Postal

Luckless Pedster - your invited
I still think you are an undercover chain puller
nobody comes on that smug unless they have the goods or wanna play with you seriously

and I wish I had gotten that patent on the oblique dan lyric at the end of one's post (just kidding, it's a fun spin isn't it?)

wt

living hard will take it's toll

10 Possible Meanings for EBTG:
10.Every Bit Too Good
9.Eric Balled Terri Garr
8.Each Belly-dancer Tom Gropes
7.Endeavor Belatedly To Gripe
6.Edd's BlackCow Tastes Good
5.Every Boy Tickles Gently
4.Even Ballah Tantalizes Girls
3.Enter But Try Going
2.Explain Balzac To Georgians
1.Entertain Big Talking Geeks

Beast W/O a Name: I LOVED the set list as presented. Come on, finish this sentence for us -

"If it's not broke ...__________________!

Clas: Hey, don't get stuck between the Moon and New York City! We expect to hear all your thoughts about the concert! You can feed us in small doses over a few weeks. Or months.

For all you folks with Nokias:

http://yourmobile.com/popup1.html

My nokia is too old, but if you've got a recent version, you can get some great new rings! You can get Billie's Bounce or Take 5 or In The Mood or my fav - Fever!

You can also suggest ones they don't have. How would Don & Walt feel about My Old School as a cell phone ring? I'm thinking about suggesting it...

And what's wrong with Ruby Baby on the Weather Channel? It's already on a Mac ad - Dion is singing it. But we know who does it best, don't we?

rb

Hey Craig

of course! hey depending on the number we can all crash at my place

we must give the group the slease tourist factor, the elegance then the full New Orlean scene the tourists rarely get so lucky to see. I know a great paranormal tour that would make Madame E. proud if one's into that as well

I'll have to see which months music fits -

late october, early november?

we can talk more over a fine glass under quaking aspen in Provo Canyon, name the time, and I'll be there

wormy

who do you think I am?

Wormy, wormy, wormy - explain your impression, do we need to go off-line here? I wanted to get a new discussion going on the west - my idea of the west, being on the right coast, is the view from the airplane in a 747 on my way to San Fransisco, I'm horribly ignorant, so I thought if I got a few people irritated, I might get an invitation to come on out for a tour!

I'm still into New Orleans, by the way - but selfishly, I'm not there until next March for business.

Beast w/o a Name - I got the News and Everything You Did would be superb live, wouldn't it? I actually got a very happy surprise in Mansfield when they did Monkey in Your Soul live - never would have thought they'd do that deep one! Are you in for New Haven In October - come on over the Tappenzee (sp) Bridge!

have you had enough of mine?

Aja, you WERE warned! Are you STILL going there?

Tommy, I'm with you! This Luckless Pedestrian is far too pedestrian to fathom! Do I hear an Amen?! Hey Luckless, I really dig snobby women. Bring it on Ms. New England!

Of course Sundance is still on! Black backless oh-so-sleek dresses and thongs are the Haute Couture of the event.

Tom, start making BIG plans for us at all those outta-the-way places you know in the EASY when the weather relents a bit. I'M THERE!

CRAIG

Though Heart got their start in Vancouver they most definitely aren't Canadian. Seattle is Wilson sister country.

You also forgot Margot Timmins of Cowboy Junkie fame. The most sultry, sexy Canadian singer alive. And her brother knows how to pen a good tune.

Warble throated Sarah I can do without...

If you haven't picked up a copy of WunderGround Radio yet, may I suggest you hesitate no further. www.malcolmhunter.com

EBTG=Everything But The Girl!

My baby Don't love me anymore :-(

possible bubble popping?

Personally i think that Luckless Pedestrian is none other than a well known guestbook regular disguised at a women

she's pulling our chain big time and non content for all the west coasters (and those who left their soul there) to have all the fun

come clean or give me a nice spanking

wormy

you wouldn't know a diamond if you held it in your hand

Craig-how could you not have mentioned "The Tao of Steve", hit of Sundance (or so I've read), the tales of a master seducer? Don't you think the women should be warned?????? Not that they wouldn't go there anyway.

Aja

NO BRIDGEPORT! NEW HAVEN, is that okay?

What's up with EBTG?

I look forward to wormy, aja and mr lapage giving me a tour of the wonders of the western world someday - it will be a lovely way to stand corrected, after all.

I am not as snobby as I seem - there are good reasons why I am an appointed government official and not an elected one - too many closets left open.

Love Sarah on the latest woman list. Is Shania, though her songs are not the greatest to me, look like Audrey Hepburn or what? Alanis is a little too angry for me - its really not that bad out there as she depicts - I prefer the social satirical cynicism of our boys to outright anger - maybe it's my age now, I'm just not that pissed off anymore. I still dig poetry spoken that's a little angry, but mixed with music, nope.

but it all comes out on the inside eventually

you idiots

by all necessary means keep
your Utah and New Orleans rondeviews

we want the black, backless dress
not the flannels

The setlist from Denmark is now posted at:

http://members.aol.com/lovethisgig/setlists/copenhagen.html

Unfortunately, D+W have not used their month off to change up the setlist. Same setlist as Mansfield, MA and a few of the other U.S. shows.... Glamour Profession and Hey 19 were in there.

If they tour again next year, which they've promised at some of their gigs, let's hope they dust off a few tunes that haven't had a live airing yet, like Haitian Divorce, Caves of Altamira, Here at the Western World, I Got the News, Everything You Did...

Beast

Craig-Obsession? EBTG? Does that have anything to do with what was in my e-mail this morning? But not from you-in light of all that, I can't wait to hear from you.

This girl has fun but keeps her feet on the ground.

Bridgeport now? I guess that means leave the black, backless dress at home and put on the flannel.

Aja

Clas: You mean Real Love? That's a great song from a mostly blase album (Skunk had called it quits). Some of the other songs are enlivened by Cornelius Bumpus. Anyway, Real Love has a neat minimalistic series of chord pairs before presenting the chorus theme and then into the first verse - nicely done.

Howard: Much obliged for the excellent tutorial. Will try some of those tonight on the keys.

Chere: I forgot to say congrats...so it WAS SOOUT? Congrats!

Blaise - right on with Joni and Sarah. I was listening to Sarah in the early 90s in Canada.

You and Clas been steaming up the chatroom, hmm? It's getting interesting around here.

worm - are you a rock climbing worm? How do you manage it being a non-pedal entity?

Craig - you may be on to something

since us western dudes can't cut it, let's do it out east
the only respectable place to dan

I suggest we rent the (irony of all ironies) The Western World

you and I and all the other disgraceful Dan male fans can stagger in to our precious ones with cane and beer belly in tow

we give the local girls the night off and we earn money for charity with the GB peep show crowd.

Lay down your Jackson indeed

blaise - isn't Geddy Lee a female singer?
or was he the last fabled castrano?

tell me more on Amanda Marshall, I've been tempted but never bit

LP - dish the Redford attitude, West Coast rules
we start at Sundance then Aja and I will lead your weary ass up the ledges in Zion
believe me overlooking the Golden Throne you will thank us before it's all over

RazorBoy - you got through this time
I personally want the Katy remaster with the DBX fubar intact
must insist on the true original release!

imagine Steely Dan doing punk

"God save Dr Wu dadada da da
He's about to come to dadada da da
He thinks that Katy Lied dunt dunt da da da
He's halfway crucified"

nevermind

Luckless Pedestrian, So the plot thickens! First you dismiss us for being crude, now you're dissing our lifestyle. Do you actually think people like us, who cannot even afford airline tickets, swill Americian Light Beer with elan and eat deep fried foods with nary a thought to our precarious cholesteral levels would be invited into THE mecca for Hollywood mavens in the mountains of Utah?
Sundance Indeed!
Robert Redford in his too-cool Rodeo Drive style would set the dogs on us as our technicolor motorhome approached the property.

Here's the new plan; fuck New Orleans and Sundance. We'll meet in Bridgeport at the Anthony's Corner Bar & Grille or perhaps the local fire hall where they serve ice cold Rolling Rock, Kielbasi and Bratwurst sandwiches and greezy chili-cheese fries. Just give me a cold brewski and a bag of pork rinds, set me at a table where I can rest my beer belly and I'm a contented man.

What does everyone say? Are you with me Tom? Do you think you can make it Soout? Jay, it's a short drive from Philadelphia, isn't it? Aja, can you get the time off? Edd you live near by, don't you?

OK, so it's a plan?

Chere, I hope you're doing better today. I heard yesterday was a little rough. I'll mail you my love today JuJu Princess!

Aja, so tell me more about your newfound obsession with all things "EBTG."

Craig

And forgot the Wilson sisters from Heart (Vancouver). Sorry.

Howard - All these different ways of subtly giving the finger... hmm... will practice for sure.

Tom - We already did experience the safest kind of sex you can have: chatroom cybersex. We took turns as the passive partner, of course.
Chat anyone? lol
Monkey dude - Mouth-breather? Now you got me self-conscious about something new. Losing my mind as a matter of fact. Keep that mouth closed! Keep that mouth closed! Chicks don't dig it!
re: Ian Dury on MOA.
A pompous-ass British accent adds credibility to whatever bull you may sputter, mate.
Female singers from Canada that you should consider before you know who:
Joni Mitchell (duh)
Sarah Mclaughlan (re-duh)
KD Lang
Jann Arden
Amanda Marshall
Deborah Cox
Alanis Morrissette
even Shania Twain for chrissakes!
And yes, why not, Anne Murray? Rita McNeil?
How about a kiss from C... D... you know who... indeed, Yak!
Rene Angelil is a freaking marketing genius, IMHO.

Hey there J. Money-is that an invite? This girl's got a wild impulse to run off somewhere-or did you know that already?

Aja

I submitted a post yesterday afternoon and its not there. Where did it go? I must have reached my daily limit.

Purchased the remasters of Aja and Katy Lied yesterday. I noticed a big difference in Katy, much better. The liner were a riot, worth the price of admission. I think Walter needs to put out a book of his musings. Perhaps 'Hiding from the madman I'm longing to be'. Saving my pennies for the rest of the collection.

Also got Riding With the King, B.B. King & Clapton. Awesome. It's a shame they waited so long to do this. Very moody, very, very blues. Steve Gadd plays drums on several of the tracks also.

Hopefully this one will make the book.

Peace, Love and DAN

Razor

Clas ^ Blaise - go for it, life is way too short to put up with mediocrity.

Good notes on Christopher Cross, and especially the call on Warren Zevon, Dr. Mu! I would however, place Harry Chapin above James Taylor anyday in the storytelling songwriting category. I saw Harry Chapin in 1980 in Syracuse, New York, great show can still picture it. But, the James Taylor concert that same year in Saratoga was pretty fabulous.

Ruby Baby on the Weather Channel? Too funny - heard Aja in Muzak once on an elevator. Almost had to heave...

On the shower discussion - showers are made way too small, I've had too many of an-almost-tragic-household-accident there. Floors are much safer, people.

*October 20th** is the date for the Dan Fan Rage Fest in *NEW HAVEN*. Who knows a good watering hole where the music is fine?

Sundance is okay, but us East Coast types may see the scene out there as a Robert Redford love-in-and-aren't-we-so-cool-living-in-the-open-air-with-our-SUV's, commercial catalogue purchase "plastic-coated" Hollywood-in-a-different-range.....but my opinion is based merely on the media and not any real data becasue of my ignorance of never having been there; so, I'm sure I will get some rebuttals today on it. Had to get have an influence on today's conversation, you know. .`)

Will check in as the day progresses.

Throw out the hardware, let's do it right.

stevie-no need for YOU to clarify. At first I thought I was missing something, but after I thought about it, I kinda got the feeling that either a) omega (LOL) was full of s*#t or b) I was full of s*#t. In either case, if you understood something, kudos to x-z. But I couldn't see the vague connections Mr./Ms. End was making. Asking for clarification was the only recourse, however, I have a sneaking suspicion I was subconciously getting out frustration moreso than asking for explanation. However, if he/she/it can come up with some real evidence, I will listen. I'm leaning toward the old Dan myself personally, but I didn't want to announce it in public until I gave the new one a million listens first. I hope you didn't feel I had an issue with you, 'cuz I don't. And apologies for including you in my comment.

top ten reasons Clas and Blaise should consumate their unrequited love for each other

12) Red Blaizer indeed, did I say red?
11) the offspring are worthy of scientific chromo research
10) gaslighting wormy has a nice ring to it
9) no bodacious cowboys in canada to mess things up
8) kinky hasn't been jealous since Ballah had his way with us
7) once a Swede, always a Swede
6) if your gonna do long distance romance why not do it for the GB's entertainment?
5) the signs of relief from Skully, LP, Corpsy V, Aja, IO, Ruby, Lisa and Robin will bring a new calmer gentler aura
4) guess who's going along for the ride indeed
3) crossdressing not needed for informal GB postings
2) the french/swiss mistranslations should be adorable
1) the top ten will daily involve flirting

gyisy

µ (and all other guitar/piano/harmony fans):

a quick follow-up to your post on the mu-major chord. The Steely Dan mu-major chord is a major triad to which the 2nd of the scale is added. Guitarists might know the same beast as an "add2" or "add9" chord.

Example - C mu-major = C maj triad + 2nd = C E G + D

The classic voicing (early Dan) would be root (C) in the left hand of the piano, with DEG in the right. The dissonance between D and E is what gives the chord the spice.

You also hear it voiced C (left hand) + GDE (right)

Common guitar friendly mu-major chords:

x0242x x0x420 3x020x xx0252 etc

For "101 uses for the mu-major chord" I recommend repeated listening to all early Dan albums, especially Katy Lied.

The twist in the tale comes around the time of Royal Scam.

The mu-major with the 3rd in the bass becomes the default Steely Dan mu chord. Same notes, just rearranged, but a very different sound. For C mu-major (made up of notes C D E G) the classic late period voicing would be:

E (left hand) + DGC (right).

(eg Deacon Blues, Black Cow etc)

Guitar shape: x 7 x 7 8 8

The sharp-eyed among you will spot the stacked 4ths at the top of the chord which no doubt contribute to the sparse, jazzy feel of the chord.

more on the mu-major chord appearing at a web site near you soon ...

Howard

RIP Allen Woody. Along with Warren Haynes, founding member of Gov't Mule, one of the most innovative bands I heard in the 1990's, also well known for kick starting Greg Allman's ass when he (and Haynes) starting playing with the Allmans in the late 80's.

BLAISE baby, smooch to you too, darling dear!

Of course, pen and paper and a download. Aj aj captain!

(and of course, no drugs, haven't had a drink (that includes any form of drug too) in (soon) 15 months, are you proud of me my little sugarbell?)

Clas, Blaise's moray eel

when ever I put my foot in my mouth and you begin to doubt
your the one that I'm dreaming about,
do I have to draw you a diagram?
all I ever want is just to fall into your human hands

no word from Europe?

how to cure post dan depression?
a tough task indeed
isn't this avenue at least a wonderful support group?
maybe if one hangs out at enough of these one can spot that other "phoney" with the goth look (ala fightclub) coming simply for the fix and sympathy
but don't try it might make you miserable

after seeing gentleman loser around hear lately I'm beginning to think that yes indeed gentleman and loser go together too well

being humble, gracious and tasteful doesn't seem to attract Miss Right or even Miss Right Now

I think Don and Walt were on to something
why else would one be a midnight cruiser?

the places we used to go, familiar faces that aren't smiling like before

don't get smart or sarcastic
he snaps back just like elastic
spare us the theatrics and the verbal gymnastics
we break wise guys just like matchsticks

first SOOUT and Chere, now Clas and Blaise
whats a poor lonely worm to do?

I always enjoy hearing from Social Herm
thanks for the tip on the McBride cd

cute Blaisey, cute gyisy

Bird lives indeed -

why, tell me why, is Ian Dury interviewed on the Making of Aja special? what does this Blockhead have to offer?
A songwriter from the punk new wave era waxing effusely on the vary thing that they supposedly held high disdain for (it couldn't all be aimed at Pink Floyd)

one of these surely will screen out the sorrow

Clas, my friend, all I ask of you is to bring a pen and paper with you to the ice rink (no drugs) and give me the lowdown on the Stockholm gig as faithfully as you can. Steamer Heaven is the soul synergy between me and you, babe. smooch!

Have Steely Dan played Denmark? Have they played Stockholm too? You guys got me worried now.

Schwinn - Doug Sham - does that name ring a bell?

dr Mu - yeah, those are great songs. You forgot "Our Love", Mike mc Donald solo. The groove is like a boat drifting down the Amazona-river, so cool, so sad, so melancholy. Excellent harmony-singing. When I was drunk I used to cry listening to that song (well, I use to cry listening to it when I am sober too).

RubyBABY - good!

not my nancy - re Steamer Heaven:

This are the facts:

Tina Turner sang the song "Stevie Winwood", which rhymes with steamy window. What you get when you make love in a small room with only one window is a "steamy window".

So, Steamer Heaven is the room you're making love in. You're making love, you sweat, and you're hopefully in heaven.

Am I right my little sugarpie Blaise?

PS/ If you're unlucky and get a serious sternum-attack during the intercourse, you get a steamy widow, but that's another story.

C

A few suggestions concerning a method for hazing newbies:

- Run 10 times around Gramercy Park wearing nothing but a wonderwaif shirt.
- Bobbing for apples in a bucket of LSD laced with kerosene.
- A date with your choice of Kinky, Ballah or Nerium to collect sperm and saliva samples for further DNA analysis.
- A week in Dallas listening to Dallas on an endless loop.
- A month keeping up with Q blow for blow at your own expense.
- Keep trying until you successfully start a thread on the Japanese Guestbook.
- Find the real Copenhagen setlist with proof. You got thirty minutes.
- Try to fly a Cessna from New York to Paris using 90 minutes worth of fuel and live to tell.

A brothel in New Orleans?
A simple hot-dog joint?
A place you end up in if you haven't been really good or really bad?

Stevie - If you read the digest, you'll find that it is not clear whether they really played Almost Gothic in Copenhagen. You find two slightly different spoilers: one says they played it, the other remembers Black Friday instead so...
Also in the digest, a link to an interesting interview with Walter found on guitar.com.

gracious thanx to the duckchess for her remembrance. if not for it, the day would have passed unnoticed for me.

ree: i sure hope you've returned for good. gina, listen to the chile, she WILL send you a novella. but i'll guarantee that you'll love her even more when you've finished it. one of my homeboys is undergoing a triple bypass in the a.m. between you and him i'm working up whatever juju this white boy can muster.

I.O.: what's the new gig ?

clas/kd: i really love playing m by m. the intro is a tasty vamp that falls right under your hands and you can just slap and roll it. the real challenge for my memory is the rocking bass/contrary chord sequence leading to the bridge. it's not often that we play it so i always have to do the seven second silent finger through before we kick it. clas, "arthur's theme" is a great tune. i also love "think of laura". does anyone here ever mention james taylor. as singer songwriters go, he's as good as it gets. one man, one guitar.

dammit they played almost gothic in the state of denmark ? apparently nothing's rotten there ! and i literally publicly begged for it !

luckless: sorry about the hip-hop lingo. by saying "i'm down" i meant "i'm with you" but thoughts of brazil and it's music would always take me up a level anyway. hope it did for you.

oh you beast you: yeah they could tell ricky wakeman that the chicks were really bitchin' this tour. literally bitchin' and filin' lawsuits but he'd never know until it was too late. igor's got the parts down. we could get him a long blonde wig, a cape, and platforms. the flamboyance he has down. if they bring any one person back, it better be bruford.

LisaG: oh my lets me clarify. i was not agreeing with omega's generic analysis of everydansong. his basic description sort of fits a tune or two but SO WHAT. we live in a world of I IV V7, and II V7, i've got rhythm, so on so forth. one question omega boy. has steely dan expanded generally on the popular song's harmonic landscape ? i think the ass has passed anyhoo. he won't answer.

Gina: thanx for the e-mail and your efforts. we'll be in touch.

DrMu: i came to warren late in life through the little boxset which is awesome. david lindley's all over it ! his new album is excellent also. i just love the hidden track "my sh*t's f*cked up". i hate gratuitous profanity but that song is funny as hell.... dammit !

herm: drop in more often man, i love to read your stuff. mcbride, pastorius, steely dan, same album... we gots a winnuh !

BIRD LIVES!

Amen to that, Miz Duckster...Bird lives!!!

Happy Birthday, Charlie Parker.

Born on this day in 1920.

If not for him, a whole bunch of important music would not have happened ... not the least of which being the music which summoned us all to this particular cyberplace.

L'chaim!

/the Mam'zelle

sly?

Hi everyone. Got a new job and am totally busy but i haven't forgotten about my GB buddies! Hope everyone is doing well!!!

To that ... guy with the joke--thats soo not cool! there is SO nothing wrong with Gay and/or lesbiands...maybe it was just a joke but rememeber everything you say can have an affect on people. Words can kill people

Herm & Gentleman Loser: I've heard of Christina McBride, but this Christian McBride is new to me.

oh - GL, make some fresh rice, for Pete's Sake. Or as my dad always said, 'for crying in the sink.'

rb

Dr Mu: A solid "amen" for warren zevon
gentleman loser

M,
Certainly any Dan party in Connecticut I will attend. If there is a need for some "new" music, I believe I can be of assistance.

Just let me know.

How about some coal fired pizza?

LisaG: Why thank you. This is a good cyberhang if you like freewheeling. I'm reading real quickly through and seeing something about pulled muscle and groin and lotion. I'd relay a joke and an anecdote, but we don't have to go any farther...

I tell ya where I like the Eagles and Jackson Browne: backing Warren Zevon where they belong!!!! Sentimental Hygeine and Excitable Boy are great albums, but one of the all-time giants has to be the eponymous debut. Sunny LA rock was never the same!! Yes, it filled with a pantheon of losers and sleazy characters. With classics like Frank and Jesse James, Mama Couldn't Be Persuaded, Hasten Down the Wind, Poor Poor Pitiful Me, Mohammed's Radio, I'll Sleep When I'm Dead, Carmelita, Desperados Under the Eaves, and the amazing French Inhaler - this ani't no Linda Ronstadt album, though many of the players and songs are the same!!! The French Inhaler has a remarkable song structure: A B C D A E C D F G Might even keep z awake! One of the most overlooked albums I know of. If you've heard Linda's version, you need to check these out - a much defferent attitude. Poor Poor Pitiful Me will have you ROFLYAO. Too bad his only hit (Werewolvers of London) was a novelty - typecast him...

A little girl was playing in the garden when she spotted two spiders
>mating.
>"Daddy, what are those two spiders doing?" she asked.
>"They're mating," her father replied.
>"What do you call the spider on top, Daddy?" she asked.
>"That's a daddy longlegs." her father answered.
>"So, the other one is a mommy longlegs?" the little girl asked.
>"No," her father replied. "Both of them are daddy longlegs,"
>The little girl thought for a moment, then took her foot and stamped them
>flat.
>".Well, we're not having THAT sort of shit in our garden."

Hi
Lisa G: Sorry to hear of the shower related injury, glad I made you blush. I have never pulled a muscle while in the shower, but have sustained several bruises and other assorted minor injuries; most of them from dancing. Thank Saint Dupont for non-slip floors

Herm: thanks for the info on the christian mcbride. Time to begin digging in the couches for change again. Am currenly dancing on the poverty line as it is...

Off to a late dinner. sesame beef from last night and white rice unsuitable for human consuption
toodles
gentleman loser

Just heard a smooth jazz version of "Ruby Baby" on the Weather Channel, fun stuff, nice trumpet solo.

Ten Possible Meanings of timg:

10) Trixie Invigorates My ... Guitar
9) This Is Moody Geezer
8) Think: Is Mars Gnarly?
7) Thighs' Instant Mega Grip
6) Tonight I Might Gargle
5) Thumper Is My Guru
4) Tongue Is More Groovy
3) The Irrascible Mr. Goose
2) Totally Into Moon Gazelles
and
1) Turtle In My Girdle

Sociable Hermit-don't stay away so long next time! Thanks for the great jazz tips.

Aja

LP: keep me posted for the October 20 gig up in Hartford?
Dan Fan? you in?

ygk

According to the All Music sight, that Christian McBride CD comes out on September 12. It's already been rated at four stars, I believe, and he covers not only "Aja", but the Police song, "Walking on the Moon", and a Jaco song called, "Havona".
I can't wait for it to come out. I have his "Number Two Express", CD and it is very cool to say the least.

I have been spending alot of time lately listening to jazz guitarists, and someone who's impressed me quite a bit is Randy Johnston. He's got a CD called "Riding The Curve", with Joey DeFrancesco on organ and guest appearance by Johnny Griffin. It is an incredibly smoking set. It reminds me of those classic mid-sixties jazz/funk guitar/organ albums. Try to pick it up if you can.

Later,

Herm

(Well I start school again next Tuesday, and then I'll be infrequently lurking. Gotta get my 12 cents in now.)

LP-so sorry to hear about the LD. Hope you can be treated orally. That I-V stuff scares me. Speedy recovery, girlfriend.

Gentleman Loser-you made me blush 4 times, my dear! Actually, I pulled a muscle dancing in the showering, once. Was trying to remove its snad. (Sorry LP, your typo was just too cute.)

Whatevah-thanks for the tip about Chris McBride covering Aja on the new one. Maybe I'll dig deep in the pockets and actually buy a CD this year.

To the good Dr.-You never cease to aMUse us. Except when going on about half-lives; then you just amaze. Way cool stuff.

To all my dear GB-ers--all this talk of Pretzel Logic is making me want to learn it from start to finish. It's your fault now if I become really busy.

Top Ten possible meanings of gyisy:

10. Grok yours in sync, yella
9. Garfield, yes it's still you
8. Glue yours in stiff yoke
7. Godfrey, your insane, silly yokel
6. Geek yelling in someone's yard
5. Golem, you insist, sorry you
4. Genetic yeast infection syndromed yak
3. Got your instant salvation yet?
2. Granted, you instigated said yuks
1. Gretchen, you're in Survivor, yodeling

timg

top ten reasons perhaps we should reconsider the Sundance Dan Festival

10) Jane Fonda Turner spies Blaise from the next lodge and is smitten - new video release Red Blaizer Workout
(burn those calories steaming the windows)
9) "come on snake hips, jump in let's go" is a speeding violation in Utah
8) it's a little less reclusive than Musswellbrook
7) no you can't walk on as an extra in a Sundance production
6) the numbers have long since wore off the A frame walls
5) sorry Craig, but "sorry we only have 8" won't cut it
4) worms don't live long in the high desert air
3) no hat's and hooters allowed on the group bus ride from Salt Lake City
2) Walt and Don are still pissed they didn't get to do the souindtrack to Electric Horseman
1) one might have to learn how to pronounce Mount Timpanogos

gyisy

JMoney - in Philly? - come to New Haven on October 20th for a Dan Fan Raggin' Good Time! Anyone else in, my friend in Vermont, where in the GM State are you?

Heard the Rickie Lee take too, too bad about the F word. I loved her CD produced by WB. Can't picture those two in a studio, must have driven each other up a wall. Too funny, great CD.

To remove the snad from a steamer, mussel or other similar shellfish purchased live: Put them in a tub or in a stopped sink with a half a can of corn meal. They eat the corn meal and spit out the sand. It works!

Have a great night all, will check in again in the morning.

And in all my travels as the facts unravel I found this to be true.

Ditto Doobies.

LisaG: MUtation

GL: Throw that one at 'em after a highball or two. Anytime I imagine a cocktail party - may parent generation, the image of Jack Lemmon appears. What does this mean? Ole, reveal your freudian slip...

Ed, Razor: Hmmmmm...forgot about seafood that's not in an etouffee, gumbo, creole, or napoleon. I had 2 weird images - one as a Chinese take-out in the white box - like bamboo steamer. The other - a chain of steam cleaners.

Love those McDoobie songs. They really stand out. Clas, I'm glad you picked out that incredible sine wave flow of Rhodes chords on Minute By Minute. It's a miracle that song was a hit. When MM hit the keys, there was no doubt as to the identity of source. It Keeps you Runnin' is my fave. Never heard anything like it. Talkin' it to the Streets, There's a Light, You Belong to Me, I'm Here to Love You, Your Made That Way, Nothin' But a Heartache, How Do Those Fools Survive (nice Skunk solo), What a Fool Believes, and Open Your Eyes (love the way it starts side 2 of Min by Min album) - what a great run!

top ten reasons there will never be another Dan fest in New Orleans

12) Madame Erzulie and Chere is just too much JuJu in the land of VooDoo
11) the parole for mass disturbing of the topsoil is 60 days in the pen, no bail
10) the strippers on Bourbon Street can't dance to Black Cow
9) it's not the heat it's the humidity
8) putting Blaise and Worm in the same room will effect the earth's rotational orbit
7) Poor Janie, the bus fare to N.O. is cheaper that to NYC but the patrons much more scary
6) The Funky Meters and Tab Benoit couldn't pull of the chord changes in Green Earrings without injuring somebody
5) they bury their dead above ground
4) they bury their living... you don't wanna know
3) they still can't quite pick up WJAZ with a strong antenna
2) the Charlie with the lotion would have to work overtime
1) later in the evening we all get to hear through the walls "oh no, is this woman really a man?"

gyisy

Ed - You're right & I'm glad somebody brought that up! In fact they sell certain kinds of clams expressly for that purpose. They are easy to cook although it is imperative that you wash them thoroughly and check that they are alive first. They are SOOO good. I must point out that 'Down the Cape' they pronounce it 'stee-mahs'!

luckless: here's wishing you a speedy recovery! Did I hear you mention a potential New Haven, CT Danfest? That sounds more manageable than NYC. My Oct. calendar is open except the weekend of the 14th. How's the foliage down there in October? Is anyone else interested? I am visualizing an East coast shining Dan-fan-span stretching all the way from the peaks of Vermont (anyone from Maine?) down to Tampa and beyond...
:)

Heard Rickie Lee Jones' version of "Show Biz Kids" on the radio this morning. Not bad, though she chickened out and doesn't sing the "f" word line.

Also, just read that Christian McBride will have a cover version of the song "Aja" on his upcoming new CD called Sci-Fi. It features a guitar solo by David Gilmore in place of the Wayne Shorter sax solo.

On a comp that isnt mine, very sorry for the mulitleple posts
yours in the corner, his tail between his legs
gentleman loser

Hi

Lisa G: Madam, you are a goddess. It was great learning that someone else enjoys dancing in the shower as much as I

Im a guy (last time I checked) and Ive been a tori fan for some time now. Im not really that huge of a fan and I think its because of her lack or restraint more than anything else. After all, interpretation is what makes things interesting (witness this message board). Under the pink is a great album, though, and I also have her unplugged boot on cd which is excellent. She is also an _incredible_ live act. Any reservaions I may have against her music fly out the window when she bgins to bang away at her piano, or two pianos at once, or a piano and a harpsichord, or whatever

help me Im ranting
toodles
gentleman loser

Hi

Lisa G: Madam, you are a goddess. It was great learning that someone else enjoys dancing in the shower as much as I

Im a guy (last time I checked) and Ive been a tori fan for some time now. Im not really that huge of a fan and I think its because of her lack or restraint more than anything else. After all, interpretation is what makes things interesting (witness this message board). Under the pink is a great album, though, and I also have her unplugged boot on cd which is excellent. She is also an _incredible_ live act. Any reservaions I may have against her music fly out the window when she bgins to bang away at her piano, or two pianos at once, or a piano and a harpsichord

help me Im ranting
toodles
gentleman loser

Hi

Lisa G: Madam, you are a goddess. It was great learning that someone else enjoys dancing in the shower as much as I

Im a guy (last time I checked) and Ive been a tori fan for some time now. Im not really that huge of a fan and think its because of her lack or restraint more than anything else. After all, interpretation is what makes things interesting (witness this message board). Under the pink is a great album, though, and I also have her unplugged boot on cd which is excellent. She is also an _incredible_ live act. Any reservaions I may have against her music fly out the window when she bgins to bang away at her piano, or two pianos at once, or a piano and a harpsichord

help me Im ranting
toodles
gentleman loser

Luckless Pedestrian, No need to worry about the $ or plane tickets. If you're a woman after our own hearts, you'll ride for free!
You need to learn a bit more about the group you'll be traveling with!

J.

Hi

Lisa G: Madam, you are a goddess. It was nice to learn that someone else enjoys dancing in the shower. Im a guy (last time I checked) and Ive been a tori fan for some time now. Im not really that huge, and sometimes her lack of restraint can get a bit much, but under the pink is a great album. She is also an incredible live act. Have you been fortunate enough to see her live? Any reservaions I may have against her music fly out the window when she bgins to bang away at her piano, or two pianos at once, or a piano and a harpsichord

help me Im ranting
toodles
gentleman loser

Hi,
Back east, Clams are referred to as Steamers...
So the reference Steamer Heaven is .....for CLAMS...

Maybe...

Ed

lp: hope its in an early stage - my gf has it.....an old, old burrowing of those spyrochytes.....she went off her 4th round of antibiotics 2 months ago, after being on them for 2 years....
the orals are 1 way to go, but, I'm told that the daily IV treatments may be more thorough....
jeez, good luck!

ygk

Just got back from the doc - Lyme Disease, yuucch - love lower New England (you Vermonters wouldn't know about this, it's a flat-lander thing) - let's hope for a heavy winter down here to kill those pesky things off!

Lisa G - you go, girl, on x!

On your commercial art discussion - remember this, and not to sound too capitalistic - we all need to live indoors, so to me it's okay to make a living producing art. If you didn't do that, you'd have to do something else to eat and then you wouldn't devote the time necessary to explore and share your gift, right? Not to start a touchy subject, but I firmly believe if you are blessed with a talent, you are somewhat bound to explore and share it. We all produce art in our own way anyway. Also, people like me, not blessed with musical talent but with good taste, are willing to buy art in its many forms. I could go on about the hyper music industry and its influences on an individuals' art, but I won't. The beauty of the information age is we don't have to rely on others anymore to tell us what we want to hear, see or do. It's a great time to IGY!

Swing Out Sister has not produced anything in a long time, speaking of art. I have a few of their CD's that I am still faithful to. 1997 Shapes and Patterns was the last one, it is very good if you don't have it. It's Better to Travel is my favorite, their first from 1987.

With these trips we have planned and the apparent financial limitations this group has, we should have a Relief concert for us, with the headline band of our boys, of course. The concert would fund our parties and plane tickets. It's perfect!

There's been talk and lately a bit of action after dark.....

Tom - Kamikaze helmet... lol Thanks for the laughs.

More concerning my last post to z, x:
Yes, in fact mixolydian and dominant seventh chords are related by the chord tones, being that the scale matches the chord, but why separate your analysis into two terms, unless the first term (mode) is referrring to something melodic and obviously the second term (dominant sevenths) refers to something harmonic? That really should have been my question.

Please forgive me for constantly changing your name.

Altamira-no apologies necessary about alleged over-stepping of boundaries. None were really set. You're too sweet.

Clarification of my commercial music comment. I use that term as many of the music schools do to label their performance programs. The commercial music track means jazz and rock/pop with various related forms. Non-commercial means classical. (I much prefer these terms over "serious music" and "non-serious music.") I did not mean to sound as if classical performers could not/do not receive money for their work. Actually regarding money changing hands for art (in this case, performance) the accepted rule, last I heard, is that anyone who receives money is a professional and anyone who does not is considered an amateur. "Commercial" has a different connotation then.

This begs the question:
Is a part-time musician considered professional just because he gets paid for his three gigs a year, or does he have to do it full-time to be considered a professional musician? According to the "rule" above, he can do ONE gig in the space of TEN years and still be considered a professional.
So if one does not in fact make a living as a musician, does that mean that he is not professional? Hardly, I believe you can be a part-time professional classical or commercial musician.
Incidentally, how can anyone expect to make a living performing without lots of endowment and help from outside sources or spending one's own money first? Confused yet? I am. But that's another topic for another time. My confusion, that is.

Ok enough of that garbage.

fezo-to where in the PA woods are you heading?

Razor-car dancing? Hmmm...I must try it if its anything like shower dancing.

LP & stevie-I'm up for a trip to Brazil. Mas Que Nada, baby. Someday when I get the money, that's going to be a life's dream realized. Yesterday, I was fooling around on the piano and whipped out Corcovado, but nothing was happening for me. Been listening to Getz/Gilberto over and over last couple of days, too.

LP, I too LOVED Swing Out Sister. Whatever happened to her?

stevie I guess you gotta be a woman to get Tori (or as my husband calls her, Hairy Anus). She oozes so much emotion and knows just what to say. As far as her piano chops are considered, block chords and arpeggiation indeed. (Maybe that's why non-real-pianists like me like to play her stuff.) But her compositional ideas are so rich and (I hate to keep using this word, but) inventive. She can express the most fragile thoughts and pseudo-power in just one phrase. She's not afraid to change her music to suit her mood, too as indicated in the live treatments of her tunes. Although when I saw her live, it was less than thrilling, but I know that must have been an off night. And yes, the girl can swing as she vamps her way through life's music.
P.S. Dawn Upshaw is amazing as a singer/musician AND as a person. I had the pleasure of meeting her two summers ago for a small Fire Island Community's concert celebration my husband played in. She's a living doll!

My top ten list has already changed, but I will revisit only one tune for now. Thanks to all of you for your explanations of KOW, one of my all-time must hears, thanks to Steely Gold being on CD and sooo accessible compared to my box set tapes.
Rumblestrip-too funny the true confession of how you sing the keyboard lick. (I can't resist it either, when nobody's listening.)
Um, Dr. Mu, one question: How do you KNOW so much about radiation?

Chere-hope everything goes well for you. Will be thinking about you tomorrow.

LG

OK,
I haven't posted or perused the GB in many moons (post tour letdown?) so I decide to look yesterday, lo and behold I am mentioned. Cara, I don't mind being called lucky but a bastard also? Just because I am going to Europe and am going to see the boys in Paris doesn't make me a bastard or in fact even lucky(did I mention the 10th row seats or that the Olympia holds 2,000 people?). You had your chance in Irvine, after the show I offered you Paris, you thought, you teased and months later you finally say no. Sour Grapes? Or was it you didn't want to be seen with a hairy, knuckle-dragging mouth breather on the Champs Elysees?!!

If anyone reading this is going to Paris be sure and sign up on the Paris listbot list at the top of this page. Francois is going to be our cordial host. It's getting close, I can feel the buzz building. Any women like mouth breathers? Aja?

Cara, I can assure you there will be no womens' fistfight in Paris!

Au Revior,

Mark chimp
"the monkey in your soul"

Regarding x-z:

"And what is this formula they've gotten into of constructing their little A sections on a mixolydian mode accompanied by some dominant seventh altered harmony, followed by a B section of a more modulatory, chromatic harmonic structure, and, if we're lucky, a third section further removed from our home key? Sure, it worked on "Black Cow" and "Josie", but how many more versions of these two exemplary compositions do we need? "

Um, as I hear it, Black Cow and Josie do NOT have the same harmonic form/formula and structure. Furthermore, you seem to be describing a little more than half of SD's song structures in a nutshell rather than this more recent formula they've "gotten into."

To explain:
"...constructing their little A sections on a mixolydian mode accompanied by some dominant seventh altered harmony..." Constructing WHAT in the A section on a mixolydian mode, the MELODY? Well certainly not the harmony as you said it is the accompaniment using altered dominant seventh chords.

"...followed by a B section of a more modulatory, chromatic harmonic structure, and, if we're lucky, a third section further removed from our home key?"
B section, meaning chorus? Pre-chorus? Second strain? Josie and Black Cow each have a verse-chorus-insrumental bridge/break form, according to my analysis. And Josie is not more modulatory in key at its "B section," it merely suggests other harmony by its use of substitutions. (It's still II-V-I in the original key-- listen to the keyboard fills.) In fact Josie NEVER changes key, like Black Cow does outright from verse to chorus to bridge, and twice in the bridge for that matter.

Unlike stevie, I don't follow your thinking at all. Please clarify your explanation.

It's SOPHIE B. Hawkins

If it wasn't August, I'd think a tornado was imminent. The sky is pink/yellow/green. Humidity is suddenly high and the temp has dropped 20 degrees. But the animals are acting normal, so I won't fret quite yet.

Ruby - I like that - "brings out the beast or tames the wild animal" Sade reference
the airlines I always get trapped on insist on perky stewardesses to uplift one

Craig - Sundance and New Orleans, why not
although I will have to drag you away from the tourist stuff for you to fully enjoy yourselves

Aja - reading recs - Tom Robbins has a new book out

speaking of reading
this bookworm has been reading "Let Them Talk - the music of Elvis Costello" by brian hinton

hinton has written insightful books on Joni and Van

I am throughly enjoying the Elvis read, now on King of America, and follows is an interesting Steely Dan reference (pg. 81)

... bassist Bruce Thomas rang up an ad in Melody Maker to do the audtion. "I had half an idea who it was for. I heard what I presume was Elvis' voice in the background asking who he likes, and the secretary who was organizing the auditions who I subsequently married, so it was an auspicious phone call. I said I like Steely Dan and Graham Parker, so this voice said "dump him", so I went out and bought Elvis's two singles and spent a couple of days learning them so I pretended to learn them at the audition very quickly. I more or less muddled through it.

tom

I don't want to check your pulse, I don't want nobody else
I don't want to go to Chelsea

Thanks JWMalibu!

steelyl, I forgot to respond to your suggestion. I will take a listen to Fire in the Hole. Unfortunately there's a hole in my collection where CBAT needs to go! :(

shuffling off rather sheepishly,

rumblestrip

Here are some online resources to learn more about the vintage keys ~

A. A Webring listing for The Vintage Keyboard (Rhodes/Wurlys/Hammonds/RMIs/etc.) Webring:

http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=vintagekeys;list

B. The Synth Museum (Moogs/ARPs/EMS/Elkas/etc.):

http://www.synthmuseum.com/

cara mia: Hi to you, too! Don't you wish there was a pill for post dandom depression?

Clas: I'm getting excited for you! Soon, you'll be back at your old school, so to speak.

Mr. LaPage: Sade either soothes the savage beast, or brings out the animal, whichever.

One of the best evenings we've ever had:
I created a nice atmospere with some candles (just 3 or 4 well-placed, not the 75 we see in the movies), donned something soft & sexy, set out a nice bottle of wine and played the Sade Live video. We'll never forget that night.

Another Sade experience:
It was Christmas time, on a crowded aircraft. We were delayed on the runway before take-off for 2 hours. It was hot & stuffy. Babies were crying, adults were bitching, kids were restless, everyone was hungry - you get the picture. One very saavy flight attendant put on a Sade video. Then she began offering free drinks and put on a Dana Garvy clip (chopping broccoli.) Then back to another Sade. We were all fine after that...

Razor Boy: It's Sadie B. Hawkins that does Damn, I Wish I Were Your Lover. I came home from work one evening to find that my magnificent other had put that on my computer and was playing it just as I walked throught the door. That, and Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You (Frakie Valley).

Chere: prayers lifted up on your behalf. Just remember not to get up too soon after it comes out - headache city. I made that mistake once...

rb

steelyl: Yes, I do. Acoustic piano especially but I like all the keyboard stuff. Unfortunately my knowledge is limited... does anyone know of a good information source for learning about different electric pianos, etc. especially those used by SD?

Hi Mr. LaPage-Sundance, New Orleans, I'm game! I know about the Irvine pictures, too! (lol)

chere-I've assisted a ton of epidurals in my ER days-it's not fun but not as scary as it seems. You will be okay.

ole-any more great book recommendations, you know my e-mail!

Aja

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on the "old dan" favorites and associations list, you seem to lean toward songs with remarkable piano solos. that's one of my personal obsessions too. but neither YGTII nor Home At Last have ivory lines that measure up to Fire In the Hole. that blistering solo at the beginning -- more than any other piece of recorded music in the world -- makes me regret I gave up piano in the 5th grade. :-(

on The New One, my fave has got to be Almost Gothic. so delicious and debonair. the boys are really torturing us by playing it so sparingly. in the US, they brought it out what, once or twice? Albuquerque and where else? and now that I'm firmly rooted on the East Coast, they play it in Denmark! aargh!

Regarding steamer heaven: BEfore 2vN I always thoght of it as a sort of bar that would fit well into a william gibson novel. Will gibsonesque work as a new addition to the english language, or should I say "of the gibson persuasion"?

In what a shame it sounds like Alan has a chain of franchise coffee bars or something like that. A place where there are chess borards set into the tables (but no chess pieces) and black coffee isnt even on the menu

RazorBoy: Like the lobster joint idea

Believe it or not I still dont own a copy of 11TOW. How does the lyric regarding steamer heaven go?
toodles
gentleman loser

I take back what I said about WOH. It's really a blend of both...

LP- the version i am speaking of was on andy's sounds page. Haven't been there recently, but if it's still posted its a must. Its a good 4.5 or 5 minutes long and they just wail on it.

PLD

Razor

Tom, It's New Orleans AND Sundance! Why limit ourselves. We're all going to the Quarter like it's Friday night, we just got paid and the women on Boubon Street don't know the word NO! We'll show Ms. Thang (LP) how much fun us frat boys can be!

Actually LP, we ARE a bunch of nice professional guys, but we play real rough. Think you can handle it? Are ya scared or just what is it exactly turns you off?

Aja, Are we still on for Sundance? I haven't forgotten you and I'll e-mail you soon. Boy-o-boy Aja, Tracy Thorn and John Klemmer! What has gotten into you girl?!!!! Is there something we should know about?

Oh Mon Chere, my heart is with you today during your back procedure. I'll pray for you beautiful woman. I've asked Steven to keep me informed about your condition post-op. Much love girl.

Craig

Thanks for the info Beast

Not my Nancy-Steamer Heaven is also in What a shame About Me. Perhaps a Fast food lobster joint?

P,L & DAN

Razor

Here’s a list of personal faves & my mental associations for each
(in no particular order):

Old Dan
-----------
1. Don’t Take Me Alive (look out, luckess pedestrian, this is my song too :) - what can I say, I love this song)
2. Dr. Wu (too varied to explain)
3. Any World (adolescent anthem of escape)
4. Your Gold Teeth (KD, I have to include this one, just sounds like classic Dan to me, strangely I don’t think it’s been favored much on this board... whatever you call that rhythm, it gets to me)
5. Your Gold Teeth II (wow, pounding-on-piano intro w/nice fat chords; echoes of innocence)
6. Deacon Blues (anthem of independence)
7. King of the World (narrator's depression contradicted by musical mania. Love the keyboard solos. I have to admit singing along in the upper realms: oo-wee-oo-ee-oo-wEE-oo-oo-EEEE-oo-oo-EEEEEE... I also enjoyed Miz Ducky’s KOW analysis )
8. Rose Darling (I never liked Rose at first but honey how you’ve grown)
9. Home at Last (more ah-haw-some pounding on the piano)
10. The Fez (rocks! need I say more?)
11. Kid Charlemagne (ni-ice guitar work)
12. Pretzel Logic (oh yeah)

New Dan
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Two Against Nature (wild, uninhibited, need I say more?)
West of Hollywood (if TAN is Walter's, WOH is Donald's)
Jack of Speed (nice horns)

Katy Lied & TAN my current favorite albums.

Throw Back the Little Ones is not on my list but the piano ending alone deserves an honorable mention.

Hi again

DrMu: Thanks for the info. Believe it or not I get off on knowing stuff like that

Jack of speed on my radio, my god this is a good song. Screech Express is a new favorite dan term
toodles
gentleman loser

Just read a comment on Ole's Fever Dreams from Hank Silvers noticing that "Steamer Heaven" is both in the liner notes for 11TOW and in the lyrics of Wet Side Story.

It being the Nance's job to serve as resident low-hanging fruit-plucker, I remark that Alan owns a chain of Steamer Heavens.

What in the hell is a Steamer Heaven? Some Maui take-out joint? An Annandale-on-Hudson beanery?

An all-points call for help to my scurvvy brethren and cistern.

Hi, back, sorta

the Beast is back, I was wondering where thou had went to

Sade - hum, I am totally captivated by her voice. I recall when the band first broke thinking the subtle open backing was quite dannish.

fezo - I hadn't heard earlier Shelby Lynne but am quite impressed by her latest outing

Dr Laura - perhaps you could stay in daytime sin duh kay shun?

Craig, Lp and whoever - so Sundance is out and a New Orleans debacle in. hey I'm always game here - you may want to wait a few months till summer is over - we can hit the culinary and music delights (I'll scope out some fall possibilities)

wt

on the counter by your keys

Razor Boy, here's the info on the "78" tour tape that exists.
It's not really SD, but a SD cover band.
http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_tour_reh76.htm
As for the real SD, one rehearsal was done for what would have been a '77 tour behind Aja, but W + D decided to bail mainly due the touring musicians financial demands.
Steviedan: Did you hear about Yes's current keyboard player, Igor Khoroshev? He was arrested at one of their gigs just a few weeks ago for sexually harrassing / assaulting two female security guards. They really ought to persuade Rick Wakeman to join them again....

have just finished reading everything!
Chere, i haven't read your response yet, will go to the library and do so, my armada can't get hotmail so ...sob sob, thursday it will be offline for a while and thank you Blaise, for explaining my absence. you're truly the sweetest and i love you for it, you know that!

i just popped in to say i will be off for a while. things to attend to.
what about the european concerts. clas will be like ..after friday!!
now i gotto go again.
bye everyone, will GBsee you then,
Gina

Back to work.

Got a great tape trade from Green Earrings - as an extra on the tape was a song by Michelle Shocked, another great female singer. My extra songs on the return tape range from China Crisis to Robbie Robertson (Storyville, in respect to conversations about New Orleans), a little Astrud Gilberto (Gentle Rain, not the typical), Chris Rea, Swing Out Sister (another lady blessed with a great voice and attitude). It's going out in the mail, Green Earrings, thank you for your tape!!!

StevieDan - I am very down too, even though I got my great tape in the mail yesterday. Life is a little overwhelming. A little Brazil '66 would be very nice, yes. Meet you in Miami International. Yes also on David Wilcox.

Shaazball, what's up (no pun intended).

X - glad to have you back - for someone that hates SD, you seem to know alot about their work, is this a gag?

Razor Boy - Glamour Profession live this year was phenomonal! I have always loved it studio, but they really pumped it out this year. The live in '74 version of Your Gold Teeth II I do not know, but in my import '74 CD live in LA, I have them practicing the tune for that, trying it out, enlightening to say the least.

Dr Mu/Miz Ducky/Gentleman's Loser - thank you for bringing up the King of the World dissertation, a song I have not visited in a while.

Sorry Altamira - no on Cher - no range!

Hope Gina is doing okay and love is still with Chere.

Show me where you are.....

Someone on the SD Alt.board posted they played "Almost Gothic" last night in Denmark.

Up in Denmark, they just don't care...
Walter, what did you play last night?
Big Fan, Help!

Steviedan-I think most of the appeal for Tori is the red hair (ouch! gets me everytime), beyond that I just really like her voice, especially on God.

another current fav-Reelin' from AiA. Hated it when I heard it at the show, "how could they do that!?!". Now have come to really appreciate it, almost better than the original.

I agree with Clas on Minute by Minute, awesome intro and the rest ain't to bad either.

Where's the Euro spoilers?!!!!!!?

Peace love and DAN

Razor

JW Malibu - glad you liked it. Can you hear from which Fagen-song I stole the last piano-chords?

some favorites:

(1) Western World
(2) Gaucho
(3) Dr. Wu
(4) Gaslighting Abby

Needing a fix of--of all things--Joe Walsh last night, I popped "Hell Freezes Over" into the VCR. Made me wonder why I ever liked the Eagles. With the exception of Joe's songs, every tune was formalistic and sung with the passion of a hooker on Saturday night. Blech.

Alt: looks like we might pass on the highway. i'm headed to the woods of Pa this weekend. let me know next time you're going to be around

KD - "It Keeps You Runnin'", "Minute By Minute", those are ultracool songs. Yes. (the intro to Minute by Minute are one of the best intros ever)

Lisa G - oh, a kiss? Oh Bahia, Bahama, come on pretty mama!

Jive Miguel - you bet I will enjoy the concert. I'll be "Jack With His Radar" (I don't think the security-guards will detect my dread moray eel).

Cara Mia - What! You have nude pics of dr Laura? I email you! Or better, email me!

Stevie Dan - I know, it's not easy to know if I am serious, I sometimesthink you people are mindreaders. But I WAS serious, so thanx for the info!

TODAYS BEST SONG EVER:

"Arthurs Theme" with Cristopher Cross. It such a beautiful song.

Hi RubyBABY!

C

Ole - Only V-frames up here.

To those of you wondering how Gina is doing, I can say she's doing fine, just taking a well-deserved break for awhile and she'll be back.
BTW, Where's Tom now? No topsoil fodder to feed from...
No Second Arrangement in your list of faves? People, that's not very good if you ever want an official release of this one. No pressure group here, i guess.
Next, what will it be?
A live album or a release of what's left of the TAN sessions?
A bit of both or nothing at all?
Any word from Europe?
Off I go...

To ALL!!!!!!
I only just discovered yesterday,( I have been listening to Sade forever and caught her live in Miami years ago) that a new album from her with the band (think Sweetback) is due out November 2000 and will be titled- "Lover's Rock". Steven and I share a huge affinity for that sister. "Punchdrunk" could NEVER be the same. The balmy breeze, the light,the slowdance, the sunshine, the warmth, the love, the moving on to John Klemmer, the oops sorry I was basking in a memory there for a second.... Thought you all might want to know about that since The QUEEN SADE seems to be a topic the last few posts.

Craig- Your GB post and especially your personal e mail were so sweet and kind and appreciated. I DO KNOW how fucking busy you are right now.

Gina- Same goes for you- thanks so much for that personal e mail, it was sooo sweet. I am loving a personal e mail from you. Write as much as you want. I promise to write back. I do that. Long ones. Ask Steviedan or Craig or Ole or Ducky they'll tell ya.

Ole- How you doing with Maya? I am getting through it slowly myself, it is alot to absorb even for a seasoned JUJU Princess like myself. All the names of the Orisha have to be converted to Loa and their respective names in a HAITIAN FASHION. A pretty tall order. I am LOVING the book though, and learning sooo much. Hope you are too. My elder is quite pleased I am reading it. And even though the main focus right now in my apprenticship under him is mostly herbal stuff, the last couple of books I shared with him he called rubbish. Lies.

Steviedan- How could I forget you darlin'? Hope all is well with you and yours up NC way. This is the begining of that hurricaine season both you and I dread. Our time of the season. We always get these storms in the later part of the season. How's every lil' thang? Health and happiness Bro peaceoutree

I am expecting we are going to get SPANKED for sure down here. We are due. I am partially prepared. That hurricaine kit is a costly venture for a girl like myself. So here is a friendly reminder to Steviedan, David in the Fl room, Q, Wormy and the rest of you I don't know yet who live on or near the gulf, east or southeastern US coastal areas. Start preparing now. My father left for the Med two days ago via plane to bring a boat back. On a map he showed me how he has to travel about 600 miles south along the coasts of Africa and Spain (a two day boat ride) near Medeira (spell?) to go around the normal paths of these tropical waves that eventually blossom into these monsters every year. Many of the boat captains say "See ya in November" every year, they do the Marlin Tournament and stay till the season is over. My dad is an expert at this stuff though,and has been doing it for many years.I still worry about him out there though. He had to dodge Floyd last season, took an extra week to get home. So please forgive me if I sound really cheezy in my warnings, but I DO care. Ya know?

Tomorrow I have my epidural experience for my back situation. Not looking forward to it. I AM looking forward to how I am going to feel about 72 hours later though. Any prayers or wishes of good luck are much appreciated.

At the end of the day The DAN STILL RULES!!!!! ALL HAIL!!!!!!

My usual instant Karma got you all again:o)
Much love and respect the resident JUJU Princess Chere

expecting a seven second delay. apropos ? wasn't the Yes discussion three weeks ago ? okay mr. c , i'll humor you, assuming you really desire this info and have not gone clas-sic on me again: Anderson vocals, Squire bass, Howe guitar, Igor the Russian keys (Wakeman's currently bolstering the english fairy music market, butterscotch waterfall epics), Alan White drums. i'm sure we hit on all this ad nauseam 3-4 weeks ago which begs the question: how does something you do not read bore you ? don't get me wrong sir, for you i don't mind a bit.

more on the seven second delay... screw dr. laura, dr. joy brown plays Gaslighting on her show quite often and she's every bit as stupid. they are all the WWF of psychology, but i love to laugh at 'em in small doses. not the actual WWF however, not ten seconds of that drug.

luckless: i'm down. let's organize a SD cruise to the land of carnival & concrete christ. man, brazilian, lins, nascimento, regina, gilbertos (all of 'em), djavan, joyce, jobim, sergio mendes. there is a similarity of feel between alot of the dan oeuvre and the afro/latin/brazilan vein. this with hardly a conga in sight. feel-wise at least, if not idiomatically.

raz/lapage: gentlemen, i too am a marquis de SADE. unfortunately i'm afraid that critics of her live performances may have scared her off. i also think she may have given the motherhood thing a shot. her catalog sells very well and her next one is very highly anticipated but nowhere in sight as far as i know. raz, i just can't get with tori anus, though. she's a NC gal from over in the next county but i don't get the appeal. the piano virtuoso thing. where's that ? sounds like white bread block chords to me. i have friends who really like her. i guess it's just too deep (in something) for me.

oh and what a day, one of my customers/friends just walked in today and gave me his Mobile Fidelity master vinyl of Aja. mint or at least near mint condition. just gave it to me ! forget the slash (/), let's just say GOOD friend from this day forward.

enjoyed everyone's lists.

cara: thanx. we're all just ol' StAl's cuzzins here.

jive, gentleman l.: don't get lost again guys.

altamira: good, we'll just do the opera singer thing anyway ? naaa na na naaa naaaa. cecilia is wonderful. samuel profundo. some of my favorites (young ones anyway), Anne Sofie von Otter, Bryn Terfel, Dawn Upshaw, Renee Fleming, many others. i used to hate opera. it grew on me through the years. just tonight i finished Peter Grimes by Benjamin Britten. vantastick ! bravissimo !

speaking of which letters z and x, what are you expecting from the popular song ? wagner ? stravinsky ? bartok ? your expectations automatically elevate this music. you don't know how ridiculous you sound. i instantly get all the theory you toss, but i'm sittin' here goin'.... and... and... WHAT ?

new david wilcox and a great bill monroe tribute out this week, along with killer (the) band reissues. mucho grande el trackos bonusos.

red rodney RULES.

yours, the irritatingly prolific...and i HAVE a life... a great one made greater by all of you...

The "Dan" rules.

Greetings. It's sooo nice to be able to spend a little time here. Back a few months ago (pre tour and during) I could go an hour without checking to see what was new. Then (post Trifecta) reality snuck up behind me and really whomped me. Things are settling a bit though. Also, with the Euro tour starting, I want to get in on what's happening over there.

I see we have another 'top songs' list going on. Seems this comes up about every four months or so. Considering that no one's list is probably every the same, I guess it's fitting.

Not in any particular order (because that would be almost impossible)

Bodhisattva ( a new addition. was on the bottom ten until hearing Herrington rip it up in Milwaukee. i can't stop listening now. Also, I wonder if They had horns in mind when penning this one. they sound so natural for it)

West of Hollywood (Deacon Blues of the new millenium)

Kid Charlemange (thanks again to Jon)

Glamour Profession (I would have given my left hand, well, maybe just the pinkie to hear that live)

Boston Rag (what a vision live)

Turn that Heartbeat Over Again (stir it up nice, I'll hit it right here :) )

Parkers Band (almost causes accidents from car dancing)

The Caves of Altamira (haunting)

Two Against Nature (Walter written all over it)

My Rival (show me my rival)

Honorable mention: Your Gold Teeth II (the live instumental version from '74. Damn those boys are good)

Desert Island Dan:

The Royal Scam

Some mentioned Annie Lennox and Here comes the Rain again...YES...YES...Oh, YESSSSSSS. I can hear it in my head right now, a must on the list. Another one that I like, name escapes me at the moment, sings Damn! Wish I was your Lover. Damn, wish I could remember her name.

Miz Ducky-always a treat to read your diseminations (sp? usage? Mrs. Turnbull where are you?)

a '78 tour? Am I that poor of a fan? I know they did some rehearsing, but don't recall any actual shows. Am I wrong? Anyone?

thats all for now

Peace, love and DAN

Razor

protons = proteons

Gentleman Looser: "enlightened" good pun

The cobalt in KOW refers to Cobalt60 which is a radioactive isotope and a breakdown product of plutonium - a common fuel for A- bombs and nuclear power plants. Isotopes are variations of an element (carbon or cobalt) which have less or more neutrons. The number of proteons actually determine whether an atom is oxygen or nitrogen. Stable isotopes have a similar number of protons and neutrons. Most isotopes are actually stable (oxygen 18 for example or deuterium: H2), but fewer or greater neutrons than an element can handle makes it unstable and radioactive. That is it emits radiation as it breaks down to other elements over time. Radiation of different types and far different intensities can be alpha (2 protons and 2 neutrons - not so nasty usually), beta (electron-the intensity can vary greatly: C14 is not so bad but those in a nuclear reactor are very powerful); gamma - electron radiation, X-rays - high frequency radiation.

Cobalt60 in the cigarettes is an allegory of a post-holcaust (nuclear)decaying world. Cobalt 60 interestingly has a half-life of 5.5 years turning to nickel. theoreticaly, in 33 years (6 half lives) all of the cobalt would be come nickel if all were produced at the same time. Cobalt 60 is a "waste product" of nuclear power plants and is used for cancer radiation treatment instead of being dumped. Cobalt 60 is a pretty strong gamma emitter which means it penetrates tissue pretty well allowing targeting of tumors.

The "glow in the dark" thing. This is a really cool effect called Cerenkov light. It happens when a powerful beta emmitter spews radiation from a "light medium" like air into a denser but clear medium like water. The speed of light is actually greater in air than in water which has a higher index of refraction. Now the beta particles hit the water at a speed higher than the speed of light in that medium. The electrons radiate that extra energy as a beautiful blue glow - electron "skid marks" if you will. Ir can be seen big time in nuclear reactors where water surrounds the core for cooling. Unfortunately, it means that non-transluscent solids can't really glow in the dark even under the influence of a beta emitter, but it's neat poetic license anyway.

As it seems to be the current trend (and Im suddenly so prolific) Ill add my two cents to the bucket:

Top Ten SD songs (no particular order)
-What a shame about me
-third world man (live version)
-deacon blues
-sign in stranger (live version)
-pretzel logic (this is the coolest song ever recorded, hands down)
-razor boy
-boston rag
-kid charlemange
-FM
-Here @ the western world

Of course, this list will probably change in five minutes

Annie Lennox? I say YES

Lisa G: KD Lang does have a great set of pipes. Im not a fan but whenever I hear her on the radio I have to stop and listen

toodles
gentleman loser

ole-now that's two more books I have to order! Can Tom Cruise or Lance Armstrong be Rydell?-I'd love to be on the run with either of them.

Hello to you, too cara mia! I pull up those Irvine pics quite frequently and remember back to those cool days of the summer. How I would love to be on my way to Paris in 2 weeks!

Aja

z: right.... ON!

Lisa G. - Hey, another Cecilia fan, cool! I am a bit puzzled, however, by your comment about "commercial" music - the last time I checked, classical music was still commercial - as a matter of fact, I listen to classical music on a commercial station (WGMS, at 50+ years one of the oldest radio stations in the country, and it's always had a classical format). I'm sure Ms. Bartholi and Mr. Ramey get paid quite well for their performances, so they could be said to be commercial in their own way. But I am admittedly out of the loop when it comes to the music biz these days since I rarely ever hear any popular music (although I listen to what is recommended to me), so maybe I missed something, and I'm sorry if I went out of bounds inadvertantly. At least I mentioned Annie Lenox! (I also am highly impressed by k.d. lang; damn, that woman can sing! I like Cher, too, but I didn't like that electronic "enhancement" on her last single; she surely doesn't need it and would have sounded a whole lot better without it.)

Dr. Laura,
I have those nudie pictures of you (5) that circulated on the Internet a while back. You were even pouty back then.

Clas--I'll send them to you in trade for your music. You have my email. I'm serious. I can send Ms. Now-Go-Do-The-Right-Thing in all her glory to you in a nanosecond!
Let that be a lesson to all you prescriptive, borderline personality disordered, now-turned-famous women out there:
Keep the digital cameras out of the boyfriend's hands.

Beau...BEAU! Put the camera down, Beau!

Stevie Dan--You may follow, lead, walk beside me any time on this here GB. You ARE the Music Man!
Here's a cousin joke for you:
If you get divorced in Tennessee, can you still be cousins?
(I did use this one before here...guess I'm running out of material these days).

Hellooooo to all Euro-goers to the Danfests and shows. My Beau and I are discussing Paris for New Year's, but I know when I really would like to stroll The City of Light in not-so-cold temps. Somebody smell the flowers in Luxembuorg Garden for me, sil vous plait

And hi to RubyBaby, Aja, the now-disappeared Innocent One, Stranger, Mark the Chimp (lucky bastard touring Europe for a month starting next week), and my Danfriends I met this summer at the hooteries and shows. Still depressed here and needing an Eastern party. Somebody say when, where...

My fav R&B singer who does for me what Sade does to some of you guys:
Mr. Jeffrey Osborne...what a voice...what delivery...what aural testosterone he exudes...ahhhhhhh

L-U-V,
cara mia

Ole-ROFLMAO Re: z and the straight jacket

Please continue to free associate. You're beautiful.

My Top Ten old Dan songs:

1. Only a Fool Would Say That (!!!!!!!!!!!)
2. Throw Back the little Ones
3. Green Earrings
4. The Fez
5. Ev'ryone's Gone to the Movies
6. Deacon Blues
7. Kid Charlemagne
8. Charlie Freak
9. Aja
10.FM

My top picks for old Dan albums:
1. Royal Scam
2. Katy Lied
3. Countdown to Ecstasy

Altamira-Cecilia is the most amazing singer I've heard (although, I thought we weren't venturing off of commercial music), so wistful, so much control, power, soul. Definitely a fantastic musician who happens to sing, and man, nobody--nobody can touch her! Is everyone listening?????

WasAZ- Um, SD did not write East St. Louis Toodle-oo. Record, yes, but it's not one of their "songs." Guess you didn't like their rendition. Oh well.

shaazball- well. At first I thought, "What the hell is this person doing on the GB?" Then I started to actually enjoy your colorful story. Only problem, I think the main character's "aw-the-hell-with-everybody-else" attitude does wear off after puberty.

Congrats Miz D on your new digs. Relax and enjoy the scenery, sister.

Gina and Lady Rumblestrip, where are you?

LG

Aja--I was thinking too fast for myself again: the casting was for "All Tomorrow's Parties," not "Jurgen." I forget who I cast for that. You as Chevette--from Gibson's "Virtual Light" & reappears in "All Tomorrow's Parties."

Cpl V--No, it was an auspicious misprint--"reveil," re-hide? as well as "reveille," wake-up call, as well as "reveal." Oh my deconstructing head....

Heraclitus--Thanx for the breaths of fresh fire.

Blaise--Forgive me for falling down on the job. Do you mean to say there are no A-frames in Canada??

FlaRm David--Cool. It still baffles me that you could do such complex things at the same time.

Steviedan--yes I do.

G-man Loser--Let me beat Everyone to the punch & also say welcome back.

z--that's pederasty. You're pretty stuffy for a guy in a strait jacket.

YGK - It wasn't Roland Park; it was a suburb further out. We took the Green Spring Avenue exit to get there, and it was a near a UMBC campus. By the way, the man I rode there and back with met the Who backstage at a concert in the '70s - he said that Roger Daltrey was just delightful, quite friendly and appreciative of the adulation of his fans. Jon Entwistle was standoffish and seemed to be above it all, and the other two were being hit up by attractive women, and so too distracted to talk with anyone else.

Regarding female vocalists - Ooh, Annie Lenox, be still my beating heart! I was thrilled by her when I was in college; I especially liked that "Here Comes the Rain Again" video, but I also loved seeing her do that Elvis impersonation in male drag. These days, I'm quite partial to Cecilia Bartholi; she sure puts a lot of energy and passion into her singing. As to male vocalists, I have long been an admirer of Samuel Ramey, since I love basses and he is the most prominent one these days. I wish he'd change his hairstyle though; it really looks silly, almost like one of those glam-rock 'dos of the '80s. I read one review of an opera he'd appeared in that said that his voice "was as smooth and glossy as his blow-dried helmet of hair." Maybe it's a Midwestern thing; he is from Kansas.

Clas and David in the Florida Room - Thanks for the insights about singers and drummers; you have satisfied my curiosity.

Hutch - I tried to get in touch with you through your band's excellent web page, but the link that allows us to contact the band didn't seem to be working. I'm planning a trip to Richmond this weekend with my friend Dave, and I was wondering if your band might be playing somewhere. Please get let me know if the band's playing, or if you'd be available for lunch or dinner; I'd like to see you again.

Roy - I don't have your e-mail address; my friend Dave is quite fond of your music - he plays "Wake Up" over and over again, and he also liked your bonus track from the Richmond CD, so he'd like to hear you play or, if that's not possible, meet you for lunch or dinner. Is your band playing anywhere this weekend? If not, would you be interested in having dinner or lunch with us, as I'd like to see you again also?

Fezo - We'll be passing through Charlottesville as well, and I'd like to get together with you also if that would be possible. If you'd like to get together for a meal, please let me know.

Top 5 SD songs

1. Pretzel Logic
2. Home at Last
3. Razor Boy
4. Jack of Speed (Live)
5. Green Earrings (Live)

Bottom 5 SD songs
1. Parker's Band
2. Change of the Guard
3. Everyone's Gone to the Movies
4. Jack of Speed (Studio)
5. East St. Louis Toodle-oo

Also, pay attention. For those of you unfamiliar with Monkey House, please obtain a copy of "Welcome to the Club" ASAP.
Excellent version of DF's "Lazy Nina" on there. True Story.

Last time I posted here I warned y'all about the disturbing racist, fascistic, immoral, even satanic aspects of these two (against nature indeed!) pop musicians' (i use the term lightly- with musicians like the great artists they usually hire as their "sidemen", what exactly do these two fops do?)work.
Other than perhaps a comment or two from that Scam person, I don't think y'all understood what I was getting at.
Well, what's left? I never thought they would go beyond the pedastry involved in much of their early work to downright incestuous pedastry, but I don't think I need to name which little ditty from their latest opus goes into those murky waters.
And what is this formula they've gotten into of constructing their little A sections on a mixolydian mode accompanied by some dominant seventh altered harmony, followed by a B section of a more modulatory, chromatic harmonic structure, and, if we're lucky, a third section further removed from our home key?
Sure, it worked on "Black Cow" and "Josie", but how many more versions of these two exemplary compositions do we need?
And what about these pseudo-Zappaesque melodic lines in their Janey Runaway contrivance?
We all know the taller of the two has gone through huge periods of being "blocked" (surely his upper-middle class raised conscience trying to silence his self-admittedly "risque" imagination), resulting in that dreadful concoction of some "New Age" automobile, Kamazariad,(I never even bothered to learn the right name, it was so horrifically banal). And the chubbier fellow tried his "Eleven Tracks of Whack" (of which only one had any semblance of "whack" [Hat's Too Flat"]and that at the expense of further alienating working immigrants of this great country.
And this is not to mention their further flirtation with the "SadieMax" aspect of human relations (the very abberation which has wound up confining me to this dehumanizing institution- criminally insane?-I think not!- more like morally corrupted by hooligans like the duo versus nature), captured in such repulsive lines such as- I'll set up my gear etc...
Well, again I've been interrupted by the sentinels of this facility, so I must end my weekly online session, but make no error, I shall return!

Thanks for the plug Aja. Im trying to ease myself back into SIS with an always glorius mix of elegance and function
toodles
gentleman looser

PS again
Miz D (can I call you that?): I like the Nightfly connection. Lester is by far my favorite character dan man. Forever spinning late night jazz to the lonlies who will never call and the crazies who always do

A race of men in the trees definitely; ferral after so many years and a forgotten world, wearing leather clothes that will last them the rest of their lives, hunting caribo and wild dog through the decimated shells of metropolitan centers

straying from topic
toodles
gentleman loser

Gentleman Loser-please don't go so long between posts next time. Love your style!

Aja

Thank you Miz D for your explanation. Consider me enlightened

I know this was a while ago, but did anyone catch the SD show in albany this summer? I couldnt go due to financial difficulties and, due to severe I-love-it-when-you-hurt-me mentality, I would like to hear any interesting tidbits
toodles
gentleman loser

ps: 2vN on the stereo. Franny from NYU, where are you now when I need you most...

nothing for a monkey woman to do
staggering out into the burn of the brain dead dawn

***************************************************
Seely - n/s Street 1 block west of Damon
Damen - n/s arterial street 2000 West

As they actually appears on the map!!!

Its a kind of pyramid
with a human heart
beating in an ion grid

Dear Gentleman Loser: my take on the "cobalt cigarettes" line is that it's part and parcel of the whole survivor-of-nuclear-holocaust subject-matter of "King of the World." Here's this poor shnook who somehow survived the nukes, he's met no other survivors, he's desperately broadcasting away on his ham radio trying to find even one other human being out there, and he's getting NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER except static ... and so for lack of anything more constructive to do to stave off the Big Despair, he's ditzing around on the air about what what fun things he and some yet-to-be-located buddy could do while they wait for the nuclear winter to set in or whatever. And in this vein he throws in an additional gallows-humor line about smoking "cobalt" (i.e. radioactive) cigs. ("Oh yeah, and by the way my face happens to be on fire, no biggie, just a flesh wound ... "). Sorta the musical sequel to Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove," IMO--waddiya do *after* they drop the Big One? Or perhaps a really weird-ass precursor to "The Nightfly's" title track--all alone, broadcasting into the Great Unknown, wondering if there's any intelligent life out there to receive the message ...

Anyhow, that's my take.

/the Mam'zelle
who survived the big move into her new nest--just barely

I would be surprised if anyone remembers me. I made a brief appearance sometime last year and then quickly dove back into the murky depths from whence I came. But now Im back with a question that most of you probably have an answer for: In "King of the World" what is the signifigance of the "smoking cobalt cigarettes" line? Forgive me for the ignorance, but no bells are rining and this line has bugged me for years. Thanks much
toodles
gentleman loser

Sorry for not posting in such a long time, but business is business...

Good luck to the Dan tonight as they begin their European tour...I hope Clas and others enjoy the show!

One brief note if I may (as I work on the Coffee Houses' books for the fourth straight hour!!!) it doesn't get a lot of discussion or promo, but "Throw Back the Little Ones" is a fucking great song!!! Actually, it was the 1st SD tune I learned to play on the piano...I guess it songs like this one that make "Katy Lied" such an awesome album!

Long Live the Dan!

Jive!

PS Although it was written, arranged, recorded and produced in LA, man does that album feel like New York!

looking for boots from the '78 Tour, email me.

I don't pay, only trade.

I'd made a suggestion to myself, or at least a thriving mistake, some strange attempt for resolution to my current fucked up situation. Just following a failed attempt at masturbation, I just couldn't get the little swimmers to spurt up and out. They did not want their freedom? I questioned it, yet allowed them to stay there in my testie-sac. A strained smile on my face, hand tired, cockshaft saturated with lotion--a swiss formula collegen with vitamin E or someshit...a nice light lotion leaving the cock nice and fragrant and slightly nonsticky. I'd spent time studying a character by the name of Cornelius Christian and his idiotically inane story, no a fairy tale of new york. His wife dead on the boatride to America, stuck embalming bodies and nightly fucking a rich widow by the name of Fanny Sourpuss. If I could emulate my christian friend maybe life might become just as fucked up, hilarious. Maybe my swimmers would begin to swim again, yes.

It happened that the evening came on early, sunshine murdered by clouds, cirrus or cunninglingus clouds, I spy a cloud that looks strangely like two dogs fucking, or maybe a cat and a monkey fucking, just two animals, making passionate sex with one another. A chinchilla with it's tongue up the ass of a fruitfly. And it causes a smile to blossom on my cabeza, I am drunk on a cheap rioja called Sangre Del Toro. The blood of the bull which lies bones buried in Pamplona, dead more than 50 years ago, in a now ancient afternoon. Just like my current afternoon which has been slain by the twilight, coming on like two thousand vultures to rip the smile off my face. I have to laugh anyway, hearing Carrie bleat the horn outside. Downing my goblet of bull-blood, I grab my jacket and hop hop two steps down to the walkway, and then jump up jump into her SUV car, a BMW or Mercedes, they all look the same to me. This town looks like a parking lot sometimes when driving, all of them the same, all charcoal blue, or black, or red, white, driving towards their deaths in SUV\Firestone\cellphone hell. A hell in which you are driving around the bend in your beautiful pristine SUV, all alone, thinking of safety on brand new tires, dialing the hubbie to make sure the kids made it home alright from private school, when blammo, a 10 inch tall spider monkey saunters into the road. She swerves, careening out of control, flips about 30.452 times and ends up impaled through the vena cava by a very expensive steering column. This happens repeatedly over and over in hell for her--such an expensive car for such a cheap life. But anyway, so I jump up, one-two into the expensive deathtrapmobile. I've decided to splurge on her for Vietnamese food at Mai's.

I've ordered a Kirin Ichiban, she has ordered Tsing Tao. That Vietnamese malt liquor shit, "33" export doesnt'hasn't fooled me, it might as well be Magnum or Colt 45 or some other jiggaboo beer. We eat the delectable Imperial rolls, drenched in Sambal and peanut sauce. The hot little Viet-cong waitress with barrettes brings me a steaming clay pot full of glass noodles and shrimp and seaweed, and maybe dog meat, I can never tell, but fuck it all it's good to gnosh, and I lick my lips at the taste of the jeune chien. Carrie orders some slimy Kom Cau Gui dish, which is horrible. When she excuses herself from the table to go take a piss or little female turdshit, I lightly sprinkle her plate with the incredibly spicy Sambal firesauce, and stir it around to mask my alterations. When Carrie returns and takes a bite she sneezes noodles out her nose, I'm putrefied, yet inside I'm laughing like a large pack of hyenas readying for the kill. She is forced to down several slugs of beer. I hand her a small dish of firesauce and ask if this will help. She smacks the dish from my hands and burning hot spicy sauce goes catapulting throught the air onto a table jammed with suburbanite family freaks. As it jabberwocky's through the air, I pray it will land on the sourfaced old woman, but instead it lands primarily on the pretty yound lady's hair, the saucedish clattering on the floor. There is no good explanation for such a travesty of events, so we merely apologize, laughing. I squeeze out a fart silently, putrescently and decide it's time to leave.

We leave directly after drinking several beers each, and she drives me back to her place where a massage table is set up. Carrie does massages for very wealthy clients, and has a studio style parlor set up in her home. She lights incense and puts on a soothing group of songs, one of which I notice as "Cherry Coloured Funk" by Cocteau Twins, a Scottish group featuring the wonderful chauntreuse Elizabeth Fraser. Her angelic voice is soothing, and I ask if Carrie knows the title to the song. Of course she doesn't even know the group, so I tell her the song is called, "Lemon Flavored Spermicide." She doesn't understand and tells me to just shut up and take off my clothing. I undress, flexing my taught muscles, admiring my dazzling beauty in the mirror which covers the whole goddamn wall. Little chinese pictures and fans all over the walls, and pisswaterfalls tumbling over frogs and little chinky panda bears and himilayan mountain goats. I imagine I'm in a bungalow off the Kao Sahn road in Bangkok, being readied for a nice Thai-style sensual massage by Asian whores. She asks me to lay down on the table and rubs oils all over me and then just works me into oblivion with her magic hands, cockstroking hands. I grow very relaxed, and then the sensual part of the massage begins. She surprises me with little kisses on the spine and neck. My ejector seat penis becomes engorged, and I wonder if the little primordial swimmers have grown feet like fins. The night ends with me fucking her mad and falling asleep in her huge bed, I feel I may never wake up. She has coerced my swimmers into swimming in the cesspool of her love. My little swimmers laugh and play Marco Polo and die little Mexico City deaths...hopefully.

I dream of monkeys with wings, like in the Wizard of Oz, beating each other with baseball bats. A group of gargantuan elephant skeletons are on the ground with scimitars held in their skeleton trunks, slicing off tusks, and eating small children alive, stepping on little mouse-like creatures, strangely pikachu-like beasts, but without the electricity. I sit on a cloud, dressed like Buddha, and smile at the Boschian scene below. I take a piss on the world and wake up, needing to use the restroom really very badly. After dressing quietly so as not to wake her and her magic hands, I piss in her little oriental bathroom made of jade, leave, taking the two block walk to my apartment, and feeling refreshed. It's about 5:00 am, and the crazies are still roaming the streets. Right next to me, two SUVs smash into one another, and implode instantly. I see two cell phones ejected from shattered windows flying through the air, spinning, burning, like trembling blue stars into the night. I hear the screams of the drivers, watch them writhe tortuously like something out of a horror movie, flaming skulls like circus clowns laughing and juggling fire and screaming hee hee hee hee heeeeee. All the money in the world couldn't have saved them. All their bank accounts still there sitting electronically on some computer green lights on the screen at nighttime ticking away like a clock or a bomb...while they go on to feed the plants and worms and spider monkeys who waltz out in the road. I keep walking, pulling out my brand new Samsung internetphone. Dial. "911." "Yes, you'll need a fire engine to put out the fire, and send a coroner, oh and yes, a dump and/or tow truck....to clean up this godforsaken mess." "Where are you, Sir, has there been an accident?" "Well, I guess you could call it that, corner of Dahlia, and Trampus Ave., yes, thanks goodbye." I walk on back to my apartment, smiling, thankful that I did not purchase an SUV, feeling just a little more alive than before. Maybe as a result of my massage, maybe because my swimmers decided to jump out and swim, maybe because of the Imperial rolls, or the half a bar of Xanax I took during dinner. I go home, take a turdshit, read about hilarious and zany Cornelius Christian screwing his bosses' wife, laugh, and get ready for work. It's going to be another good day. A day for the horses' ass to win the race, a day for cows to die, and little red robins to be born, cracking in their eggshells the color of dawn on a 100 degree day. I laugh at Cornelius' antics as one more shitturd flies loose, water splashing my anus hole. 6 am the alarm sounds, strains of Pinback's Tripoli coming out of the box....."And the ripped ones really collide, all the others reattach somewheeeerrrrreee, at least their shaaaaaaarrre...." And the singer soothingly sings out the numbers: 4-9-5-3-1. I've researched it, it's not a zip code. It's time for me to get up now. The steam is coming out of the shower, and daylight is coming on.....like a gigantic blow up spider monkey with wings with a huge burning torch scorching the sky and the land and the whole state of California, capitol of the world. I smile, and get in the shower, sponge off dead skin and hair with soap brought to me by an ex-girlfriend from Europe, the bitch who fucked my best friend. My day has begun. I hope it will be as good as the last

whups, make that "Your Gold Teeth II"

THIS SORT OF STUFF IS IMPORTANT!

bang zoom to the moon, a Ralph Kramden statue goes up.

mm, nice lists you two.

Fave songs?

1. Deacon Blues
2. Your Gold Teeth
3. Black Cow
4. Doctor Wu
5. Snowbound

Dr. Laura - too bad you need the footballs, but I'm sure you have a great personality

Top Ten Steely Da/solo songs of all time from Cadet LP:

1. FM
2. Don't Take Me Alive (of course)
3. Only a Fool Would Say That
4. Sign In Stranger (Live in America version most especially, loved the changes)
5. The Good-Bye Look
6. Tomorrow's Girls
7. My Rival
8. Deacon Blues
9. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
10. Janie Runaway

I actually have a top 20 list, but wittled it down since 10 seems to be the acceptable countdown to ecstasy number

Stranded on a real desert island (not the Hollyweird one) and can bring only one Steely Dan CD:

cross between The Nightfly and Gaucho (would have to likely negotiate)

Gotta' go tell someone to stop filling the wetlands now, see you all tomorrow - will enjoy the reads from the evening, I'm sure!

the things you think are precious I can't understand

No no no no no no, but I used to do it at an earlier age to achieve the Jayne Mansfield effect. I used two canadian footballs, they're bigger and rounder than the american ones...

KD: loved your list (the long one)

Here's my addditions & 2cents:

fav SD albums:

1.Countdown
2. Royal Scam (2nd, tho musically superior)
3. Katy Lied
4. Alive In America (a controvercial choice, I'll bet)

fav solo discs:

1. THE Nightfly
2. THE Nightfly
3. 11 Tracks of WHACK!
4. Kamakiriad

songs from the new one that touch me the deepest (no favs yet):

1. Jack of Speed
2. Gaslighting Abbie
3. What A Shame About Me

songs to play while getting ready for a date:

1. Reelin' (AIA) don't ask
2. Pretzel Logic sexy beat
3. Bodhisattva energizing
4. Janie Runaway incites to make the traffic interesting
5. Book of Liars an invisible life jacket

Best Piano lix & solos:

1. Ted Baker's intoxicating intro to Josie (I swoon)
2. Sign in Stranger
3. Fire In The Hole
4. Home At Last

fav drums:

1. Aja (at the end, especially)
2. Babylon Sisters
3. I Got The News

fav guitar:

1. Kid Charlemagne
2. Don't Take Me Alive
3. FM (for the bass)
4. Reelin (original version)
5. What A Shame About Me
6. Any Major Dude
7. the jazzy little interlude of Everything You Did

Horns:

1. Deacon Blues
2. Dr. Wu
3. FM
4. Janie Runaway
5. Caves of Altamira

Best background singing:

1. Any World
2. I Got The News
3. Time Out of Mind
4. Babylon Sisters
5. Bad Sneakers
6. What A Shame About Me

Best crowd noise:

1. Alive in America (beginning & end)
2. Jackson Browne's "Stay" recorded at Merriweather
(for you, Clas)

Best SD attitude in a song mixing Old SD and New SD:

1. West of Hollywood

Best poem with SD attitude:

1. "Opening Poem" by jaroslav seifert
2. "My Last Duchess" by Robert Browning

rb my longest post ever!

Razor-ditto about Tori--a true goddess...glad to see that this talk of chick singers has slid on down and is covering non-jazz as well. Call me a crazy person, but I just love Alanis and everything she stands for (angry young woman), speaking of Tori's touring mate.

And forgive my child of the 80's thang here, but didn't Sheena Easton have the most velvety voice in history?

Also Sade, agreed, and the often forgotten beauty, Annie Lenox have been favorites of mine. Did someone mention Ann Wilson of Heart before? I always liked her power/venom/sweetness.

My dearest Clas-I mean not to offend you with my words, I only repeated a list that was sent to me. I did not actually compose the thing. I know better for next time.

on the mp3 playlist for me this morning:

"It Keeps You Runnin'"
"Minute By Minute"
"Room 335"
"Love TKO," by Teddy Pendergrass

What a shame about me. 1995 Kelly would have kicked my ass.

Different show...

I saw them 4-5 years ago on the waterfront near the USS Constipation. Just Tracey, and Ben with an acoustic guitar...

Edd, was at the EBTG Boston show - a little discoey (word?)and she was definitely under-miked, but remember, we were on Lansdowne Street, the land of the hyper-bass - she really should have played at Berklee. Remember that table in the back with everyone dancing on the table? Too funny - or was that you? I also recall her strange but effective rhythm dance she did.

Are you crazy, or are you high?......

Clas, you never cease to amaze me! "The Catwalk" is brilliant (just arrived in the mail this morning, thankyouverymuch!) ~ Jonas' horn charts are pro, and your Herbie Hancock-esque piano coda gave me goosebumps - excellent music, my man!

Sade has a nice enough voice, but after the first album I couldn't tell one minor 7th vamp from another...

Yes again to Tracey. A friend turned me on to "Language Of Life" and it shot to the top of my all time favorites. In spite of its critcal acclaim, it seems like the bastard child in their catalog. They played in Boston a couple years ago: Not a cut from it. Even the Marine Girls got better representation at that show.

I put "Language..." right up there with "Aja". Gorgeous. Never tire of hearing it.

Yes on tracey Thorn - I have a few of their CD"s and a rare British tape of her doing standards - saw her live as well a few years ago. Excellent call!

Cadet LP being too assuming, sorry - will watch only for awhile.

I am in New Orleans next spring for a conference, this Yankee is crossing the Mason-Dixon line, so I'm in then for an SD rouse.

Anyone into a New Haven, CT party in October for a Dan-fan-spam?

Mr. Lapage - what few songs do you not care for? I'm ready for a discussion. I have my SD Top Ten that I will share soon as well, but I do not have a lower ten, per se.

Where is Gina?

Soon it will be too late....

Count me in for that New Orleans decadence-fest! The last time I was there I had more fun than when I was in college, with food to die for.

My current fave female singer: Tracey Thorn. God, does the woman have pipes! How many times in a row can I play "Driving"?

Got 2vN back in the CD-it just gets better every time.

ruby baby-those were some funny top tens you sent me!

Aja

I must confess that Sade is now and has always been my favorite vocalist, male or female. I will also go so far as to say that there are many times in my life when I enjoy, and in fact place Sade's wonderfully sultry music above all other music.
Stuart Matthewman and Andrew Hale are world-class songwriters and musicians (check the consistent sax and keyboard work) and I'm fucking mad for every song they have ever written for the Cafe-Au-Lait beauty from Lagos.
Now that I think about it a moment; there are a few Steely Dan songs that I don't particularly care for but I cannot think of a single Sade song that I do not absolutley love.
I've had this discussion before and I know there are a few others on this GB who are in concurrment with me about Ms. Adu.

Just spouting off my opinion again.

OK LP, I'll get JMoney and sooutrageous and we'll meet at Tom's place in New Orleans for our night of hot, decadent slumming. I know you'll love it!

Craig

what's up with the f-word? granted, I'm hardly the prude (I actually have great closets), but are you that pissed off?

Clas -- Hanky panky, hanky panky. Lower case letters, ok fuckhead?

the only country singer I can take is the incredible Patsy Cline, sorry......all other country music is a little too down home for me.

what's so strange about a down-home family romance?

all my favorite female vocalists skew toward the country side . . . Shelby Lynne (still haven't heard her much heralded new one, oddly enough), Rosanne Cash, and, when she's not over-produced, Chely Wright.

favorite male vocalist: it's no contest, Marvin Gaye

Sade, another good call!

I also forgot another male lusting favorite - Carly Simon
too cliche?

what's up with the third world man?

Nothing on the concert at Copenhagen, Denmark however apparently Swedish nationals are pouring money into an art museum there. SD didn't even make their concert list, but Steve Earle and the Dukes did:
http://www.cphpost.dk/default.asp?id=166
http://www.cphpost.dk/default.asp?id=9274

Who knows, maybe tommorrow.

JK - I'm with you dude.

Q have a safe trip.

Just checking in with my favorite female vocalist, timely for a change. It wold have to be Sade. It makes me want to get nekked everytime I hear it. Another one I like is Tori Amos, very gruff to very sensuous.

Peace, love and DAN

Razor

He St. Al: Now would be a good time to try that new edit feature...

KD: Nevermind. Just glad I woke up this morning with PL under my pillow. Just think - I could have left the bar with HER...eeeeeooouuwwwwww

LP - "more higher thoughts". LOL

I go away for the weekend after meeting two out of my three nasty deadlines and I come back to Jerry Springer and Dr. Laura. What's up, people?!?! Jerry, no lectures from you please - laughing all the way to the bank aren't we?.... And Dr. Laura - what happended to you as a child - way too much anger there for me.

So on to other more higher thoughts -

Stevie Dan - excellent connection on the cousin stuff - Cab Calloway is a personal favorite - my dad and mom always used to play his records too when I was a kid

Other female singer choices of Tania Maria and Astrud Gilberto are wonderful. I play my Best of Bossa Nova CD on a warm summer evening with a gin and tonic in hand and pretend I am in Brazil (who's up for the trip?) - very nice

~ I love topsoil in the evening.....

JMoney - coors light and hot wings, why yes, I could use an evening of slumming with you creatins.....

Have a good day, will check in to see what today's topic is.

sure, he's a jolly roger......

Now we all have heard stories of people meeting through the Internet and
the effects it can have on real flesh and blood people around them. Sure, this
type of relationship can be, in some rare cases, beneficial for the ones involved
but that doesn't make it right. Wouldn't you prefer to entertain a loving rapport
with "real" people? People you can actually hear insulting you, smell, touch, unbutton
their shirts, push 'em flat on their well-preserved backs? Sure you do. And why not?
There's nothing like a good shove every morning around the coffee table. So if you're thinking
of actually getting involved in such impersonnal filth, be aware that it's just as shaky.
People still act on impulse. There's lots of deceit. It's easier to go back on what you said thets
day before and finally, words are easier to dismiss than actual people when it gets a little intense.
I have thought long and hard about this - actually for the whole last hour- and this is my opinion.
I have even decided to go off the air permanently as a matter of fact. This is the last show. I have
loved you all and it's been a wonderful experience seeing you go at it these past few months and I
wish you all the very best. Have a nice life and keep a smile handy for a rainy day. Ciao.

So we're off the air until we trace the call. He always keeps it short not to be detected. He's experienced and a REAL MAN. Tells women to shut up. Way to go Edd. stay tuned for Jerry Springer's final thoughts. Now this musical interlude from a popular dude. His name is Steely Dan...

One plush summer, you come to me, ripe and ready and bad through and through,
With that deep mystical soul-synergy, pumping steady between me and you,
Let's keep it light...

Dr. Laura, shut up.

I'll go easy on you. First, intercourse, when performed appropriately (and i have to disagree with Cindy Margolis, my colleague on that one), is not horrible at all. Of course, you have to follow the ground rule which is: nothing kinky the first time around. Show your man the way and you'll be alright and walk normally the next day. Really, don't be afraid Dorothea. Follow your instincts.

dr Laura, I am a girl who's going to marry next week. And I'm scared, I have heard awfull stories what men do to woman in order to get children. Will you tell me the true story behind all horror I have heard lately?

Thanks,

Dorothea "Alabama Black Snake" Beaucop

I'm still quite popular on this medium here, ON THE RADIO. Damn this culture of appearance. The Internet, make me laugh! And our friend Clas is quite the hunk if I remember correctly. Men.
Can we have a female caller here for a change?

Worldly-wise I realize that everybody's crazy...

We're back on air. Who sang this by the way. Beautiful, beautiful song about a man showing weakness and paying the price. Hmmm. Yes Clas, I'm not a pretty sight. Years have taken their toll but I remember a time when people compared me to Jane Mansfield. Ahh, those were the days... You are turned off and that just makes my job easier. Enjoy your day, friend. Next caller...

Åh dr Laura, I've just visited your homepage. I'm so sorry. What a tragedy, you're looking like mrs Madeleine Albright... terrible.

Let me cancel my earlier posts.

Oh god. If you were the last woman on earth I'd cut off my dick and hide it.

C

PS/ People use to ask how dr Ruth possibly can know anything about sex, I don't want to be rude but... I'd like to ask you how you possibly can know anything about men and relations.

You know there's fire in the hole,
And nothing left to burn,
I'd love to run out now,
There's nowhere left to turn...

And Clas be a REAL MAN. I already know I own you. It's not exciting, picturing a soft dinky here. Rise!

Go on... I'm pulling you in here. Are you going to resist me?

Well that's the way the world goes around my friend. And that's why I prefer a lonely life over an alternative lifestyle. Yes the animal type is popular but as long as there are no obvious signs of weaknesses like jealousy, for example. That rock in the torrent of life can not be slippery in any way. Rock hard and emotionless is a formula for success unless you're dealing with a true original. I never met one and I'm keeping myself for that moment that will never come. I never said a weak fellow would be popular or successful. That's exactly my point. I understand the misunderstanding since you are european and well... enough said.
Now intern, where's my coffee?!!!
Go on...

AHA!

Dr Laura, you are playing games with me! You little girl! Playing Miss Hard to Get eh?

Ahhhh, that's making me even more eager to own you.

dr Laura, before we enter a deeper relationship, allow me to disagree on your post, and clear a few things up, before we continue our hankie deu pankie.

You wrote; "When building a relationship with a woman, do not show emotions too early in the game and preferably never."

According to my own experiences on that subject, I venture to say that the case is the opposite. Woman get very excited seeing the Animal in a man, seeing the total Madness, the uncontrolled Power in him when HE detect the Animalissimo in her. When He is ready to enter her, SHE gets ready to be entered.

But please, I hope you don't see my opinon as a "throw a monkey wrench into something". I think we shall get along well.

By the way, do you, dr Laura, like Muzette-music?

Clas, somehow I knew I would get your attention but before this goes any further, let me save you some time and remind you of something you might have heard before: "I never meant to hurt you in any way" (typical saying in teen magazines, a line easily expressed by women of all ages though, it goes deep, don't ask) for I am up here and you are down there, somewhere. Just one of those desperate people. Don't get any illusions. "I'm out of your league" is another popular one. Get it? Now, what is it you want to share with us this morning?

dr Laura - RIGHT ON, fuck them fuckheads, GIRLPOWER! That's what I like.

Dr Laura, what do YOU say about some hanky panky? "Hula hula", you know?

Fire, in all its manifestation - passion, war, natural disasters, whatever -, brought forth all things and will take all away in the end. It rules.

Fuckhead - "fartjokes" is one word. And though Steely Dan is a very sophisticated band, maybe you could keep your writings on a somewhat fairly intellectual level, okay? Don't use those F-words. We have woman here.

And though you don't have much to say, just lurk around. And take your time, dickhead.

Sincerely yours,

C

PS/ Skully! What about some Hanky Panky??

PS/ dr Laura - are you related to dr Ruth? Your names are so unusuall, that's why I wonder.

PS/ Stevie Dan - Apropos Yes, who is singing nowdays? Jon Anderson? Is Rick Wakeman with the band? No? Whats the guitarplayers name, Howes, Howard... well, fill me in please.

The problems of my callers are my problems. I deal with fucks like you on a daily basis here. Think i'm afraid of a little dinky pissing in the wind. Think again. Next!

Stupid fuck, Doctor L, ever think about talking about your own problems?

And i do have examples of men who followed this advice and ended up scoring an entire family. I rest my case. Next caller!

When building a relationship with a woman, do not show emotions too early in the game and preferably never. Women were raised on an archetype of what is desirable in a man: detachment, distance, coldness, independance,etc... But you all know that since junior high, right? You snooze, you lose.

Clas -- Fart jokes. "Fart jokes." Two words, fuckhead.

ole, i just KNEW you'd dig betty. i can tell you listenin' to some JAZZ girl. that aretha is a classic. fact is, i dig quite a bit of gospel both old AND new. talk about inspired funk & soul. well, i'm not religious but that stuff gives me religion if you know what i mean.

speaking of which, LG that album IS a little slice of heaven isn't it ? i can't believe it's deleted.

funny thing, that vibes solo was the example i cited days ago, resting my case in defense of the present day SD which delightfully refuses to die. any gary burton fans out there ? i started following bill ware's solo output after that tour. our boys can sure pick 'em.

was listening to some cab calloway earlier and was giggling at the tune "What's Buzzin' Cousin" which is a sort of predecessor to "Cousin Dupree". then i thought of "Kissin' Cousins" by elvis and i realized. between that and jerry lee lewis (who recently posted here !), this incestous cousins thing is virtually it's own genre. anyone think of any others ? who wants to be a millionaire ?!!!! well, i can't help you with that but we can help to shatter a possibly obsolete taboo. either that or i've just named every possible song about it in the entire civilized history of music.

Lisa G, I don't like fartjokes. Try to keep your writings on a fairly intellectual level.

TOP TEN THINGS YOU'LL NEVER HEAR ON A MUSICIANS' TOUR BUS:

13. Shouldn't we go back for the trombone player?
12. Oh no you don't! It's my turn to clean the bathroom
11. Checkmate!
10. Go roll 'em down the aisle all you want. They're only cymbals.
9. So, I just walked her home, kissed her goodnight, and came back to the bus.
8. Hey, who farted?
7. No, the monitor mix was perfect. I just screwed up.
6. Twenty percent? Our manager should get at least 30 percent!!
5. Why is there porno in the VCR?
4. Can you believe all the money we're getting?
3. Boy, I can't wait till we get to Omaha!
2. No Thanks, I don't want another beer.
1. Ladies, I need to see some proof of age please.

The bandleader says to the chick singer "Okay -- we're going to start the next set with "Unforgettable", but when we get to the bridge we're going to change to 7/8 time until the second bar of the third verse -- then, starting on the first beat of that bar we're going to alternate measures 3/4 and 13/8, and modulate up a half step until the end of the verse. Then we're going to do the whole last verse in 5/4, modulating down a half step every other measure until we end up in the key of C#.

The chick singer thinks gives him an astonished look and says "There's no WAY I'm gonna be able to do all that!" The bandleader replies enthusiastically "Why not? You did it last night!"

"wasted?"

oh Lord, don't tell my parents...

I think Monkey is one of Skunk's finest moments. Only a Fool also shows Skunk's smoother side. I do seem to recollect Walter saying is some interview somewhere that East St. Louis was his first solo. I'd be surprised if that was recorded before the title track. I think you mean the phrasing, more than choice of notes, that doesn't fit Carlton. Sounds like Skunk or Walter phrasing with a Carlton sound - Monkey and Pretzel Logic are not so far away as to be a real leap. If it ain't Carlton, it could be Skunk. I'm still not sure about Walt. The closest sounding solos of his are on FM and What a Shame About Me.

Hey, check out 2:56 or Rikki and 1:15 of Pretzel. There's this "flutter" thing or something where Skunk (on Rikki) lifts his finger (seems to fast for a string bending oscillation) on and off the string creating a trill. Sounds like the same guy. Guitar players - what's he doing? Am I right? Off to bed - another late night wasted Dan obsessing...

hmm

I tri-cond the Schenk solo. I was just commenting on vibes the other day with my drummer friend, listening to radio jazz and going from party to party after the show on Friday. Each song we heard on the short drives (after being out of the car for an hour or so each time) seemed to have a vibe solo (or accent). Problem was, it was usually the drummer playing it, with no idea on the melody line, just the beat and percussing instinct of it all. It got old.

It's like, if you're in a rock band, do you give your drummer a guitar to lay down a percussive overdub (assuming he doesn't know a lick about playing licks or notes)? I've always thought of the guitar as a percussive thing as well as a melodic tool (considering I was born ten years after Hendrix died, you kind of have to realizing how much little there is to play anymore). So why do we give these damn ham-hock-hands a shot at the vibes?

Schenk was nice to hear, as was Mike on "Almost Gothic." It is nice to see Don and Walt getting their trumpet jones back, 24 years later.

As far as Walt on "Pretzel Logic," it's gotta be. Instead of going with the U-Curve, I'm just thinking what sort of stuff Carlton would play over that song, and I think it would be much different (not bad, certainly not better than Walter's take, but different).

That, and I believe Brian Sweet's rag mentioned Walt playing it. One of those note for note things, strung together one string at a time. "Josie" is apparently along the same lines.

Skunk isn't as filthy on "Pretzel Logic," the album, as he is on the first two. The solos on "Rikki" and "Monkey in Your Soul" are played right into the board, they have a sweet snap that I dig.

The Larry solos you mentioned are a great pick-up though, awesome listening on your part.

I always loved the symbolic part of Walter playing that solo. First off, excluding "East St. Louis Toodle-oo," it was his first recorded guitar playing on a Steely album. Sort of a watershed mark, the beginnings of the new Steely Era that really continues to this day.

I remember the first time I watched the PBS Special, and feeling a little gypped when Jon Herrington took the first solo in "Pretzel Logic." Damn, it was a fine piece of playing on Jon's part (to say nothing of my delight and shock that they were actually playing the tune live), but I wanted Walter to take his rightful place.

It turned out to be the perfect course of events, and what happened next was even better, as Walter got the outro solo. It was better suited, settlingly blues-ed, and a perfect end to an amazing show (with Don taking that last organ lick!).

DLEE: I second the Schenk solo - semaless integration into the supporting cast...I'll raise you on Michael Leonhart trumpet solo on Almost Gothic and 2 Potter solos on Janie

KD: Can I add Purdie's crack drumming for Kid C and Home at Last (and of course the whole Beatles' discography).

Are you sure that's Walter on Pretzel Logic: the Title Track? Look what you've done - I've listened to Dan solos for an hour. Although Walt's FM solo has some similarity in tone and stringing out notes - there's this more flattened, longer inverse U-shaped frequency response curve thing I hear that resembles the solos on The Fez, Everything You Did, and Third World Man - they're all Larry Carlton, than say I Got the News. Walter's guitar has many voices and one has almost an overlap with some of Carlton's, but Carlton could pull off a bit more resonance. The problem is that Larry Carlton was given no official credit on the PL album as vague as they are. There are no individual song credits given. I wish they had included these with the new liner notes. Skunk? but his MO has more attack and distortion - and he can't help but monkey around with a sustained note - doesn't have the patience to sit and just admire it like the guy on PL...

Anybody up for a chat? 11:20 EST

VERY COOL PICKS KD

i really like the DaveSchenk vibe solo on Negative Girl

Revised SD TOP coming soon

waiting for someone to call, so I thought I'd list favorites:

fave SD albums:

1. Aja
2. Katy Lied
3. Two Against Nature
4. Pretzel Logic
5. Countdown to Ecstasy
6. Gaucho
7. Royal Scam
8. Can't Buy A Thrill

fave solo discs:

1. Kamakiriad
2. Nightfly
3. 11 Tracks of Whack

favorite songs on the new album:

1. Gaslighting Abbie
2. West of Hollywood
3. Janie Runaway
4. Negative Girl
5. Almost Gothic
6. Jack Of Speed
7. What A Shame About Me
8. Two Against Nature
9. Cousin Dupree

Favorite drum songs:

1. Aja (Steve Gadd)
2. Green Earrings (Bernard "Pretty" Purdie)
3. Glamour Profession (Steve Gadd)
4. Babylon Sisters (Bernard "Pretty" Purdie)
5. (Tie) Negative Girl (Vinnie Colaiuta), Josie (Jim Keltner)

Guitar solos:

1. Your Gold Teeth II (Denny Dias)
2. Bodhisattva (Denny Dias', not Skunk's)
3. Snowbound (Walter Becker)
4. Kid Charlemagne (Larry Carlton)
5. Home At Last (Walter Becker)

Honorable Mention:

Walt on "Gaslighting Abbie," Walt on "Pretzel Logic," Randall on "Reelin,'" Jeff "Skunk" Baxter on both "My Old School" and "Rikki Don't Lose that Number."

all of "Green Earrings"

other beauts:

1. Victor Feldman on "Black Cow"
2. Phil Woods on "Doctor Wu"
3. Donald Fagen on "Home At Last"
4. Chris Potter on "West of Hollywood"
5. Donald on "Your Gold Teeth"
6. Feldman on "Everyone's Gone to the Movies"

Obvious stuff, my fun to list...

Anyone else? Who'd I forget?

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steviedan-I am fortunate to have Take 6's premiere album on both tape and CD. Have it learned by heart

And I've got the Bobs, too. Those wacky folks are soooo creative.
"B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-BUUUUUUUUS PLUUUUUUUUUNGE!!!!"
But I always heard some intonation problems that you would expect could be fixed in a recording, at least.

Now, Take 6? Flawless, whether on recording or live. Accurate as all hell. Some of those dudes have Phd's in vocal performance. Saw them back in '90 at Penn State.

My a cappella group of yore did stuff from both groups as well as the Nylons. Those were the days...

Altamira-I don't know about htose other guys but, I started Drumming and Singing at the same time.Guitar and Keys came later.
People always ask me If it's hard to sing and play drums.My answer ...no.The drumming is second nature...I'm concentrating on the Vocal. Some kind of split brain thing I don't understand or question.
Not that anyone here asked. 2 cents dept.

New York Voices? Hey, I went to school with those guys!.....very popular vocal group in Ithaca in the early-80s, and when they came down to the city, they got signed to GRP very quickly.....then learned how the deal didn't work....poor promotion....
they are excellent to see in concert - I do believe their recordings always get 'the gaucho treatment' somewhere along the way.

Alta: sounds great - I have fond memories of merriwether AND Md. - where were you, Roland Park?

ygk

Just caught a very nice Graham Nash bio vignette on CBS's Sunday Morning at 10A EDT for you Mountain and West Coasters who admire the man and his music/photography/humanity.
I didn't know when David Crosby was desperate for drugs and money that he sold his music rights away. Graham bought them and gave them back to David.

cara mia

ole....we plan on being there and you aptly named the meet....felt like some sort of post traumatic Dan syndrome in the weeks after Raleigh....cooler weather and seeing old friends will be nice.

was hoping to catch Dave Matthews Band next weekend in Raleigh but a trip to the in-laws put the brakes on that one....could this be a Dan only summer?

ole - You did not tell us about this:

http://members.aol.com/danomalley/steelydan/

That's a neat idea. Now i know what an A-frame is. DUH.

Argh! Heresy!

Oddly enough, I have a New York Voices CD that might have been played 2-3 times. For whatever the reason (it's been years) they just didn't click for me.

It is hard to fight with one's heart's desire.
Whatever it wishes to get, it purchases at the cost of soul.

As the oracle in Delphi screams "My heart will go on", all things will sigh and long for the fire from which they came into being.

Oleander - enough of Aretha now for a while, okay?

Altamira - "Do singers take up drumming because it gives them an opportunity to play an instrument that's not melodic, and therefore completely different from what they do when they sing?"

I would say it's the other way around. Ask that eagle-fellow, damn, his name slips from my mind all the time... Don Henley!

I have a friend here in Sweden who's one of the best jazzdrummers we have here. He's been playing for 45 years, and he's been playing with EVERYBODY (from Bill Evans to Jimi Hendrix), but suddenly he threw away his sticks and started a new career as a singer. And he's 60 years old. Pretty cool change.

KD - Iy i ni ki swahili (means; "this is swahili")

Gina - is Akkerman still gigging in Holland?

SKULLY - my little sweetheart, where ARE you? I was hoping for some hanky panky, hula hula you know.

C

Mais pardonnez-moi, mademoiselle Oleandre..having spent time in a swamp with killer flies or killer men, aaah. Did i hear that bugle bug the nightlight out of me?
Corpsy V reporting from the mountains. Everyone is still asleep. We endure the luxury of swisslike chalets. An offer we couldn't turn down. This promises to be the sensitivity training of an era. The cabin on the left is where the officers reside. The New Yorkers however wanted to build their own camp. One of them grew up on a farm, so he wanted to show he still had that touch with nature.
Corpsy V, reporting and recording this using a Pearlcorder S912.
Now end of message, breakfast has to be arranged. Chef, were the eggs benedict planned for tomorrow or today???

Corpsy V

aqui

|||||||--No no no! Not my page! All props go first to the newsgroup and Ti Bone Angie for starting the thread, and then to dc for compiling and putting up that wonderful syllabus.

stevieD--Betty Carter. She's the one. Every iota of her body and soul, and what she pulled from everyone in the room, came out when she sang. She didn't just deliver a song. She signed, sealed, and delivered it. She's one of my abiding heroes.

Aretha does too, in a very different way, with that gospel compulsion behind her. I recently got "Amazing Grace," her gospel double, on cd to replace my lp. If you haven't heard it--well, be prepared to be blown away. I also like the Barrett Sisters. "Say Amen Somebody" is a must-see.

A cappella is spelled Persuasions. The Bobs are fun, the Nylons too.

Blaise--yes, one of those maybe, or your own personal brand. If you need an umbrella or a fleece-lined raincoat, or some duct tape for those bad sneakers, let me know.

Not My (Sergio)--There's an album he did, "Primal Roots," that I just loved, but my lp is now unlistenable. I've been unable to find it on cd.

Cpl V--Word of the week to you, "reveil," with its at least triple entendre!

DLee--I dunno; goin' my way?

tom--I think the whole point is to die gracefully.

Midnite--So you can come to the PostTour GriefFest in Sept.?? I'd love to see you.

KD--I can hear that. Have you listened to Jim Hall's version of it?

Alta--Way to keep the flame alive.

Disponible--Dime, no vas a darnos cuento de los conciertos por alla? Auqi estamos muriendo.

OK, anybody else read "All Tomorrow's Parties," Gibson's latest? It's another installment in the "Virtual Light"-"Idoru" saga, but most importantly, Klaus and the Rooster appear again. However, they're the only overt Dan nods I found. Though he does ref Richard Thompson: one character used to drive a '52 Vincent (motorcycle). And James Branch Cabell! Anyone read "Jurgen"? I've been casting these books for ages--have pegged Gil Scott-Heron as Fontaine and Russell Crowe as Rydell. George Carlin as Skinner. Aja as Chevette.

RS--Do you want me to don my jeans, or walt them?

If you were in a room with Hitler, Mussolini, and Kenny G, and you had a gun with only two bullets, what do you do?

Shoot Kenny G twice. Just to be sure.

just finished a bar gig, played an outdoor gig last night, both went swimmingly. Soon, I'll be swimming in something else.

set list:

Tramp
Ain't Too Proud To Beg
Got to Give It Up
Compared to What
Respect
Josie
Hard to Handle

lisa, that's exactly why i specified her on the duo albums she's done with fred hersch. maybe it's just that i like anyone with fred, but to me, manhattan transfer SUCKS. lambert hendricks & ross they AIN'T.

ny voices much better though still lacking in greasy soul. if you can find take 6's out of print first album, you will find perfect jazz vocal harmonization in an acappella gospel format. the bobs are also a fun group.

I had the great pleasure today of attending a Danfest, Countdown to Ecstasy II, a continuation of the gathering held before the concert at Merriewether Post Pavillion in Columbia, Maryland (today's gathering was held at a fan's home in a lovely wooded area near Baltimore). The company was delightful, the food was delicious, and the band was hot. It was basically the same band that played at the last C2E, but with a few added personnel. There was a lead vocalist this time, a friend of the drummer, who is primarily a singer (he had played the drums for the first time in public at the last gathering) and so, I would imagine, knows other singers and so was able to encourage one to come along to this venue. Others joined in and sang the background vocal parts, and there were also two guitarists and two bassists, one of whom was just learning to play, but she did a fine job of playing today - I suppose the encouraging and friendly audience gave a bit more confidence to those not used to playing and singing in public.

We even had a saxophonist, but he had to leave early and could only play on a few tunes. On the songs with saxophone solos he wasn't around to play on, the lead vocalist scat-sang the sax solos, to much applause from the audience. It was great to be among so many lively Dan fans, and also most heartwarming to hear all these folks bold enough to play and sing the Dan's music themselves - music is meant to be performed, not just listened to, and it was a real joy to hear these folks performing it in an informal and downright intimate setting.

I'm wondering about this singer/drummer nexus. The drummer at the wild and crazy recording session that was part of the Richmond Danfest in March was also primarily a singer who also drummed, like the drummer at today's gig. Do singers take up drumming because it gives them an opportunity to play an instrument that's not melodic, and therefore completely different from what they do when they sing?

Oh I'm gonna get flack for this--I know it, but...

I haven't been personally too impressed with Janis Siegel, either. Sorry. I've done Transfer arrangements with a group I used to sing with and I ended up doing all her leads. To tell you the truth, I really never liked her improvisatory style. I caught her live at Lincoln Center at a birthday concert extravaganza for Jon Hendricks a few years back. Pretty amazing night to say the least, but she did not impress me then, either. Could be that I disliked the cleanliness of the Transfer's sound, too. So trying to be hip. Yes, they were pioneers. Yes, they could do so many things. Yes, they picked up where Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross left off, but I don't think any one of those voices were anything singly extraordinary.

Now New York Voices, on the other hand...

I was riding around in my mini-van tonight while running some
errands and listening to "Citizen Steely Dan". It is a nice night and the windows are open, similar temperature and humidity as June 25 in Michigan, and "Deacon Blues" comes on.

My mind rushed back to the SD concert at Pine Knob, and the feeling I had when they played "Deacon Blues".

I may have posted this before, but.......

I can't recall wanting to be in a particular place more than I did that night. I still feel the effects 2 months down the road when I hear one or another of SD's great works.

I sure hope they tour next year. I will be there again to witness and feel the magic that has become such a part of our lives.

listening to "Sketches of Spain" for the first time since TvN came out, and I'll be goddammit if "Concierto De Aranjuez" isn't "West of Hollywood"... the beginning, at least.

Chat anyone at 10pm est?

...and I *must* mention the saintly Janis Siegel of the Manhattan Transfer.

cara mia: your joke reminded me of another joke:

Tom Fogery has died.
He wakes up and finds himself on a stage on which a number of instruments are set up. A door offstage opens and in walk Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Brian Jones, John Lennon, Otis Redding and Buddy Holly.
Each musician picks up his favorite instrument and begins tuning up. All of the instruments are taken but, to Tom's immense pleasure, the drums.
He walks up to Jimi and says, "Man, so this is what Heaven is like!"
Jimi looks at him and says, "Heaven? You think this is Heaven?"
At that moment, Karen Carpenter walks in, takes her seat behind the drums, and calls out, "Okay guys, 'Close To You.' One, two, three, four..."

re female singers: There's an awesome young lady named Jennifer Knapp. I heard her live last year and her voice blew me away. She plays a mean guitar, too. If you get a chance to hear her, do it.

rb

to etta to not etta to etta to not etta over and over last night.

phenomenal lady, pipes nonparallel. but definitely a rhythm and blues singer i figured. right up with aretha and chaka, but i was being anal and limiting myself to jazz singers exclusively. otherwise, definitely on the list. would love to hear her do some Dan and i KNOW she could do it up !

LG, i know the stiffness you're talking about with holly, but she gets extra points for material choices and crossover potential. i also dig the arrangements and the very fagenesque block-chordy style of her longtime pianist. some albums are better than others.

oh, and i'm very sorry that this pesky music talk is so boring.......... NOT ! i know it's not sadistic or anything as thrilling as that, but we constructionbuilders are sooo limited. we only talk what we know. poor us !!

tania maria - yes

where is etta james in everybody's list?

hazing for LP - you have to burrow down in the topsoil for a whole evening

OK anybody except her.

Celine Dion dot

Did i read the name Celine Dion on this page two days in a row? I get it. This is a plot to get rid of me. The next one who mentions it gets a red bum. That's a promise.

Lisa G-that was one hilarious slip of the finger!

Great discussion, everyone. I'm going to be on the streets after I buy all the new CD's you've recommended, but at least the music will be good!

Aja

But i won't pretend i don't care, darn, did i mistype that word "time" there? it says "tima". Oh well.

i feel so rich now, with all the time in the world for a while to do just what i feel like. Surround myself with music, music and music!

taking a dive there,
xxx G

1975, Steppin', an album that has Herbie Hancock on clavinet, Stevie Wonder on electric piano, Wah Wah Watson on guitar, Bill Summers on percussion, Paul Jackson on bass, Jim Rothermel on clarinet, Tom Salisbury on piano, Gaylord Birch on drums and percussion, Chris Michie on guitar, Eugene Santini on bass and the Pointer Sisters Anita, Ruth, Bonnie and June to step in and out of a few decades.
There's this tribute to Duke Ellington and some real "groovy" music to freeze frame the seventies. But mainly it's the four voices that
carry all that weight with no sweat at all. They thrill and send shivers. Ain't that what it takes?

Oh. For those who love Cassandra Wilson and want some american history as well, i think the Wynton Marsalis Jazz Opera BLOOD ON THE FIELDS is a must...i heard that one on the radio, some hot summer night at home...there are no words for it, really...
Breathtaking!!!

Last one now. Spike Lee's movie "She's gotta have it" SOUNDTRACK.
Cedar Walton (Piano), Ronnie Dyson( Vocals), Harold Vick (Soprano sax, tenor sax), Bill Lee (dad of Spike on bass), Kenny Washington (drums), Virgil Jones (trumpet, fluegelhorn), Joe Chambers ( drums, percussion, glockenspiel, bell tree).
The music on itself paints a pretty picture.

A nice song to sing is "Night in Tunesia" from Gillespie. I have a version of Chaka Khan, also had a CD by the New York Voices, sold that one some tima ago ..but that song...
and the melody still lingers on...

bye, G

Um, that's Blossom, not Bossom. Oooops. There goes that karma already.

Hey don't even THINK I'm related to Kenny G...
(not that there's anything WRONG with that)

I actually enjoyed Anita Baker's pop musings way back when, when I could understand the words. I also feel that Mariah has an instrument and can technically do probably anything, but the girl doesn't know how to phrase, a shame.

Stevie-
Bossom Dearie is still alive and gigging infrequently in NY.

I'd like to echo your sentiments on Ms. Betty Carter, the only woman I've ever heard not sing a word and yet say so much. She certainly can run with the big guys.

And thank you for reminding me of my dearest Keely Smith! Yesterday when I was compiling my list her name popped into my head and then popped right out. I was hoping it would come back later, but it did not until you mentioned her. I always appreciated her with then hubby Louis Prima and saxophonist Sam Butera. But I recently heard her solo efforts-WOW. She had everything going on.

I've heard Holly Cole-not impressed. Too white. Blue notes? Too perfectly sterile. Too calculated. She must have learned to sing jazz while banging out her notes on a piano. Although her phrasing isn't that bad, I wouldn't buy her stuff. (Kinda reminds me of the female version of Barry Manilow, except she gigs with real cats.) Too bad 'cuz her voice is incredibly even, so smooth-it's like butter. That's her saving grace.

On Celine Dion: she actually is trained which I have respect for. She's just too commercial which I don't have respect for. And that Diva show? Puh-leez. Go 'Retha.

Oh I HATE to summon up all this bad jazz singer karma, but a musician without opinions is, well, sterile and calculated. (I wonder if Chere can conjure up some sort of JUJU for protection for me.)

I'll keep thinking. There's probably a whole lot more out there that, right now, are forgotten.

"Michael Bolton duo with Kenny G doing Andrew Lloyd Webber... "

Wasn't that happening in Boston the weekend of the Mansfield show? Maybe no Kenny Gee...?

Every beast is driven to pasture with blows.

Gone fishing,

C

i hate that i had to follow that cara. that was hilarious.

i just love these kind of threads and you all just KNOW i do.

i know all about the star search moment but lord, do you people ever LISTEN to eastern music ? do ya think that they think we use enough notes often enough ? the scalular concepts are incredibly more dense. western mellismae are technically dwarfed by their feats. no, i'm sure they think we have a lot of notes to discover, and of course, we always do and of course, so do they. which naturally progresses back to the impetus...

female jazz divas:

so many have left... Ella, Sarah, Billie, Dinah, is Blossom still with us ?

greatest all time for me: Betty Carter. the most like a horn. the most inventive. amazing technically & musically. onstage, shootin' it out with heavies like Shorter, Hancock, Henderson, these guys are laughin' their asses off. they can't run with Betty.

living legends: Abbey Lincoln, Shirley Horn ("Here's to Life" one of my top three albums of all time), Keely Smith still kickin' hard.

kenton gals like Chris Connor, Anita O'Day

the Canadians (capped for you blaise): Diana Krall who defines the complete package (Mu summed up nicely) and the unmentioned and underappreciated Holly Cole.

brazilians: brazilian music in general is a whole 'nother day (let's do it too) but must mention Flora Purim, Astrud Gilberto, Elis Regina, Joyce.

opera singers: whole 'nother day (many hope we won't)

TDWR: Patricia Barber, Mary LeRose, Kitty Margolis, Gina got in Denise Jannah, Jeanie Bryson is alright, Chaka can do jazz but she's shillin' bad men these days, the late Nancy LaMott, Janis Siegal when she jumps off that Manhattan Transfer with pianist Fred Hersch.

back to the star search moment: Rachelle Ferrell. the mariah carey of jazz. great instrument, badly in need of a heavy handed producer. i've got an advance copy of her new one. guess what. she's now the macy gray of jazz and the jazz has been mostly replaced by R&B. for me, it works better but is still way overwrought.

to these ears Anita Baker is a breathy hair too flat a little too often.

oh yeah and who was that chere ? of course ! whenever you share your enthusiasm for that music i am infinitely thanked again. i have secured my place in your memory, if only through that one thing. it's fantastic !

worm: son you ARE burrowing deeply this week.

ditfr: thanx for the call today. man, when the place is busy it's hard to find a corner to talk in, so i'm sorry i couldn't be more talkative but i'll get wit you after i get the freight.

LP: the hazing just goes on & on. hell, we're self-hazing here. haha really, you're training is going very well along with many other new cadets

jesus that was long but i'll try not to post again tonight.

With some of you guys remarking about Britney's augmentation too many times and now Mariah's, while simultaneously critiquing their artistry or lack thereof...

I am compelled to say I think Kenny G is a mini microphallic whiney assed blower who must be sublimating/compensating for his sad state of physical endowment.

Don't get me started about Michael Bulging Bolton and what all the girls/music snobs say about his copycat ways...

That reminds me of a joke.
Hell on earth:
Michael Bolton duo with Kenny G doing Andrew Lloyd Webber...

Arrggghhhh

cara mia, taking you along as I slide on down....

YGK: I'd say there's a lot of Dow Chemical stock south Mariah's vocal cords.

Diana's last album's not band, but I prefer "Love Scenes." Nice rendition of the standards, but the trio excels with DK, Christian McBride on bass, and Russell Malone on guitar with the great Tony LiPuma on the knobs... Hey, get your mind out of the gutter...she's 100% real Vancouver Canadienne! Superb and clean sound - open space - pure, not slick. Diana shows her ivory tickling - great sense of rhythm.

More fine jazz divas

Nora York
Merideth Ambrosio
Patricia Barber
Anna Dawson

Joni is killer

Mu: I heard a CD with Diana doing standards......I do remember a good band.....didn't give me chills.

I seem to remember that Anita's first release was better than most, even memorable, and then she hit the sophomore disc....and presto, where did she go?

but I really think that Mariah is enhanced - vocally, and otherwise....

ygk

YGK: Diana Krall is a smokey stylist. It you listen closely, you'l hear she is oftern in close proximity to the notes, but does not nail 'em straight on. Very good phrasing and mood creation/enhancement She's a superb pianist, even better than very very nice vocal stylings

It may be the "style" but Mariah's voice seems to have a lot less ing or resonance, especially in the upper register.

What A Shame About Anita. Rapture is an excellent album (no, really), but after that Marcus Miller had this former Chicago waitress (?) who won an amateur contest thinking she was Ella. The title track of Giving You the Best That I Got has nice piano, but the vocals are getting into those bad "Star Search" habits. The other Ed (the one offering a million bucks every fall by mail) loved those udderings...downhill from there...

Yes, I saw 'Retha give those "Divas" the butt-whipping they deserved. What power and control!!

Edd-LMAO, yeah, pick a note. I mean there ARE twelve, plus all the quarter tones you can muster, it's soooo difficult to choose. My father always said that Aaron Neville had the same problem. I often wonder if Eastern musicians have trouble listening to our music?

YGK-my husband has family in that NYC and he often gigs there, so we go many times a year. But lately, I haven't been able to have an entertainment budget that allows me to catch a lot of live stuff. The old man is starting a conducting career which makes me the bread-winner for now. So I must pick and choose who to take in.

Have you heard of Finnish pianist/composer Mika Pohjola? I somehow got on his e-list, and I've accessed some of his stuff via his website. Solid. I definitely want to hear him in person. Trouble is, as of last September, I actually got a day gig (first time in my life) that does not allow me to stay out on school nights. And most of the people I want to hear play on weeknights. But let me know, 'cuz you're definitely on my list of "must-see/hear."

We must talk offline, agreed.

E-mail me:
xraywoman@home.com

Lisa

"...bending it in ways it's not supposed to be bent..."

Amen. Amen. Amen. Lawdy, have I come to dislike mellisma. The supermarket had an Anita Baker tune playing last week and I found it almost painfull to listen to. Pick a friggin' note! ANY NOTE!

Am I the only one who thinks diva was never intended as an entirely complimentary term? It seems to speak not only to the singer's vocal ability, but also to the difficulty in working with them.

Lisa: Binet disappeared after the session, she's only on one track, but Ms. Duffy is still around, and will be in future sessions - the live thing is forthcoming....thanx for your kind words....r u in the city much? we should chat offline......

ygk

Lisa: so why don't YOU write new lyrics to Cherokee? A little time and distance, and a reinterpretation could be quite interesting.

An R&B-jazz merger is one that the accountants in A&R at the majors (and their 'independents') seem to be pushing - "it's all black anyway, right?" it seems like they're sayin....Those withOUT ears to hear the nuance of the different genres tend to bundle similar, tho actually different idioms.

I say whatever happened to soul?

On a similar topic, I've worked with a few pre-Divas, whose self-annointed Diva status was solely attitude - which helped me distance myself from singers. Which reminds me…..and I know it ain't jazz, but I'm reminded of the Divas 1999 Show on VH-1 - what a joke! There was the Queen of Soul………..and then Celine Dion, Gloria Estafan, Carole King, Mariah Carey, and I don't think Whitney was there……maybe a few others…..
But I mean, first off, who was the egghead who booked that show? I mean, first off, Divas, in the real, Traditional sense, would look like, Aretha, Sarah, Ella, you know, REAL singers…..
But Mariah on the same stage as Aretha? Puhleeze…..Celine? Gloria? and then the close of the show, where Celine was out to end "Natural Woman", but the Queen wouldn't let her. Classic. If you get a chance to check it out on Pop Up video, do, it's really funny…..talk about bad booking….

I mean, the difference is between Aretha and Celine, Gloria, Mariah, and I think, even Whitney, is Aretha earned it, lived it, has done it…..and the others are just too green to be even THINKING diva…..no dis to Ms. King, but she's a writer, man…..and I love the folks who argue, "But Mariah can sing 5 octaves!", like that means something. Mariah, who has every little girl under 20 who think they can sing taking a note and bending it in ways it's not supposed to be bent for another 2-3 bars, like they're singing, without understanding why the originators did it like that to begin with…..shit, no history….
my test would be a live, un-miked 3-song set for each.…I think Ms. Dion and the enhanced Carey would fall on their face....

But I would love it if Aretha moved more stylistically towards jazz…..

I'm not sure about Diana Krall yet, but Ms. Wilson, indeed! There's a few left....hope someone can grow more....

Rant over,

ygk

Speaking of new stuff, YGK, I really enjoyed Wunderground's song samples. That Mr. Duffy has a sweet, sweet sound-speaking of singers. I'd like to hear Ms. Binet a lot more. Perhaps you'll feature her somewhere on the rest of the recording. And if your production sounded that spiffy coming through my little computer speakers, then I can't wait to hear it on a real CD.

The blend of jazz/rock/latino is a nice sound, and you do it well. Can't decide on which track is my favorite from the list, but I'm leaning towards Movie, although Amor delights me with that subtle keyboard underneath. Congrats to you and your colleagues.

Now where are you playing so us Jersey folk can come to hear you?

""I've always been a fan of the South American soft-voiced types."

Then you're probably already aware of Brazilian Tania Maria, yes?"

Edd-not familiar with her, but if she sings Portuguese, I'm there.

By the by, my apologies to Rachelle Ferrell for misspelling her name before.

Has anyone heard Chaka sing jazz? A little Sarah influence, no? She certainly can hold her own.

Gina-I love the old standards done up in a new way, but I get what you're saying about them being recorded for the upteenth time. Definitely, live is better. And if I hear Misty one more time...

Actually I think that anyone who records OBSCURE old songs, or even common standards but with their often forgotten VERSES is doing the world a service. So many gems need to be remembered that otherwise sit in someone's piano bench never even getting the chance to be "published" in any Real Book.

More on Blossom Dearie: her older stuff was so very inventive. Sounds fresh even after 40 years. Hmmm...sounds like someone else we know. Check out her "Surrey" as a ballad from Once Upon a Summertime. Out-STAND-ing.

Now if I could just get someone to write GOOD lyrics to Cherokee, I would start doing it again as a ballad. The melody is beyond gorgeous when treated with a little slow cookin'.

I'm so disgusted with the new stuff anyway. Jazz singers seem to be going the way of R&B, and frankly I don't think that style belongs in the same category as jazz singing. I mean R&B is its OWN category, right? Maybe I'm too much of a purist. The golden age of "jazz singing" has past. And the people on its coattails aren't taken seriously anymore. What, me? Bitter? LOL Perhaps I should start listening again, with a different set of ears.

I love where H. Connick is going these days. Actually I speak of his two releases before the most recent one. (Must admit, haven't heard it, yet.) The boy is so patiently funk-AY.
Wormy, he makes me want to experience New Orleans first hand. (I hear the secret of the gumbo is to stir and simmer the roux to a light chocolate brown. Chef Edd-comments on that?)

OK, enough ranting. I want to go to Brazil.

Hey all, I have my 15-year high school reunion tomorrow.
I am in the perfect frame of mind - no hesitation!
Have a fine, fine weekend everyone.

I thank all for the tips on overlooked singers. Fine underrated jazz sax man is Jesse Davis. Check him out. Can't think of the name of the album, but the first track is Sunny Side of the Street.

i can only agree on the list of female singers already mentioned, but this lady sure deserves to be around:
Carmen Lundy, a CD "Self Portrait" a fine mixture of crooners like "spring can really hang you up the most", "my favorite things", "my ship", 'round midnight" and songs she has written herself.
Musicians: Cedar Walton, John Clayton jr. Nathan East, Gary Herbig, Jeremy Lubbock, Ralph Penland and it's produced by Akira Taguchi. JVC-2047-2 1994

There are numerous fine "new" jazzvocalists, but what always bugs me is they keep singing those old songs over and over ..nothing wrong with a "funny valentine", but i'm not really into hearing another version, like for the xxxx time ...so i crave for something original..
Carmen is. Her own songs have this "classic" touch but they're refreshing to listen to. This recording is "live" taped and that makes the sound a live performance one. No studio "let's re-run that phrase again" stuff ..
Hm. Haven't i been here before? I guess i have.

Here in The Netherlands we have Denise Jannah who was so lucky to be noticed by Blue Note. Still, i never bought any of her albums for the very same reason, too many familiar titles there. I only like hearing "old" songs live, ambiance and all makes the difference then.

Unless you're miss Wilson then. She can croon everything up and down and alongside her own alley LOL

Okay. This makes me want to nose around old tapes again.
Off then, bye!
Gina

Before he turned into a schlockmeister, even before he became an intelligent tunesmith, Sergio Mendes had a pretty great touch. I base this purely on my "Brasil '65" CD, which I recommend to everyone. I like the more pop-ish '66 stuff too, but '65 is perfect.

"I've always been a fan of the South American soft-voiced types."

Then you're probably already aware of Brazilian Tania Maria, yes?

I'm not a fan of vocal jazz, but I do find her worth listening to. I'd suggest her CD "Come With Me". You can hear her voice go from kitten ("Embraceable You"), to lioness ("Nega").

Blaise: It never occured to me that you were anything but male. Not that I peeked, I could just tell...

Only once did I get someone's gender mixed up. That was a few years ago when I thought Dee Con Bluz was a woman. I wrote a parody of jingle bells and had the Major (of all people) kissing DeeConBluz. But he set me straight, forgave me and there arose a nice email friendship. He sent me the best jokes I've ever heard, before or since. Joe - I miss you, dude!

aja: I'll be praying for your sac frac & stuff!

Mu: how about the Year of the Cat tour?

rb

Cassandra Wilson, indeed. Hope some of the lyrics on her Miles tribute were by the Goddess Abbey Lincoln. A lot of terrible lyrics have been unfortunately penned to too many straight ahead tunes. (Have you seen the "words" to Four?) Gotta get that Cassandra CD.

Give Miss Rachelle Ferrel a listen, as well, Lady Rumblestrip, et al. The girl's got chops and man, can she swing. She's so hip, she walks sideways. There's something I dig about a jazz singer who plays the piano, too.

I really like Diana Krall, although she's hyping it up a little too much, IMHO, with the pseudo-sex kitten thang (which I don't much care for). Just play girlfriend, and they'll love you.

Dianne Reeves should get honorable mention here. She was a huge influence on me. Although she does not venture to the "outer realms" as smoothly as my girl, Cassandra. I love the experimental types, but only the chosen few can do it right.

Most underrated (jazz?) singer: Sammy Davis, Jr. No word of lie. You gotta hear him if you haven't. Any standards he's recorded are handled with wistful simplicity and great honesty. Gorgeous singing straight from el corazon.

Another gem: Miss Blossom Dearie. There's no real "meat" to her voice, but what a prolific musician! She got her start as an accompanist for other singers in NY and tried singing out herself. I'm glad she did. I also like it when an arranger like Blossom uses guitar AND piano in the same sentence oh so well. She is truly a sonic architect. And yes, she can swing a little.

I've always been a fan of the South American soft-voiced types. (Heavy Jobim fanantic. Yes, get the Man from Ipanema. It's a great anthology.) Also I LOVED Flora Purim's (where is she now?) RTF stuff with Senor Chick.

And how can we forget Ms.Carmen McRae? Carmen Sings Monk is definitely a MUST in any collection. May she rest in peace.

Billie Holliday's Lady In Autumn box set is also a fantastic collection. Get it. Even if you never liked Billie before, you will after you hear this.

I'm not crazy about later Sarah Vaughan as opposed to her early and middle-career stuff, mostly because of some of the lame song choices, but then again she can crap onstage and it will be magnificent. Nobody comes close to her. Not then, when she was alive, not now.

But the swingingest ever:

E L L A

'nuff said.

rumblestrip- Cassandra Wilson's "Traveling Miles- A Tribute to Miles Davis" Get it and you WILL be MOVED! There are so many beautiful lyrics to his music, about his music within the songs. And the creme de la creme play on this album-Victor Feldman, Dave Holland, Pat Metheny, the list goes on. Thanks to my brotha Steviedan I own this disc, and have never tired of it. She also gives props to the Ifa Yoruba Contemporary Arts Trust. I have wondered and have chosen to believe after soooo many listens that Ms. Wilson is definantly a priestess like me of some sort. If she is not she is so very close. Same exact group, sect, vibration whatever you want to call it. The Reprise version of "Run the Voodoo Down" contains the same exact chants I use in my own daily, weekly, rituals to the African deities. Her simplicity is beautiful and her apparant perfectionism in relation to the absolute feelings that will stir you on this album will explain it all. "Mofarafum! Ashe O!" (Ultimate salutation/Propers in the Yoruba Tongue) I have said enuff.

Well, looks like i'm a guy but don't tell Clas, he needs to entertain his Harem fantasies after all.

Ok, so I go away for a couple of days and now Chere is talking about the Madam Erzulie thing with sooutrageous. Will this craziness never end?

Craig my brother, I told you this was gonna happen! No one believed me. Now you know I'm psychic. Kreskin; eat you fucking heart out!

Cassandra Wilson IS THE BOMB! She is too hot to handle! Double Live Gonzo, Intensity In Ten Cities, Live At BuddaKahn!

LP, would you like to join us for some hot wings and Coors Light?
Hanging with sophomoric Creatans can be very liberating if preceded by two Valium(5mg)and a precautionary skin-patch of Dramamine. Tell me where and when and I'll gather the troops and we'll be there to get this thing started!

Is everyone still looping Two Against Nature or are the SD oldies once again in vogue?

PLEASE ANSWER: IS BLAISE A MALE OR FEMALE OR IS CLAS JUST A MAD SWEDE WHO'S SEEN TOO MANY BERGMAN MOVIES? (MAX VON SYDOW BE DAMNED!)

J.

oleander! I want you to know I checked out your website: http://www.vibrotek.com/book_list.htm
and I was quite impressed!!! I had made a note to myself to check it out but you know, never quite got to it and did not realize what a delightful list you had assembled! Please forgive this humble rumble for getting off to a bumpy start...
Boy, do I have some reading to do!

If I'm now a cadet, does that mean for a certain length of time, I must be a plebe? What will be the hazing I can expect?

Thank you all for the education on true alto. I am embarrassed to admit I am tone deaf, but in my physical ignorance, my soul appreciates those that have been blessed otherwise. How about a Top Ten female singer list to get that party into the next level?
Mine are not arranged in order, that would be too tough and it's too early and I worked three late nights in a row.

1. Sarah Vaughn - saw her at Boston Symphony Hall before she left us
2. Linda Rondstat (sp relief)(Neil Young to Nelson Riddle - how can you beat that?)
3. Kate Pierson - hold that note!
4. KD Lang
5. Ella Fitzgerald
6. a general nod to professional opera singers - I am not proficient in the who's who, but I do my once a year attendance in Montreal (best opera house anywhere).
7. Soul Sisters from previous SD tour
8. 2VN waifs (why do guys like waifs, please explain - you say you prefer voluptuousness, but I think that's a lie - now I've really started something, haven't I?)
9. Phoebe Snow - nice thick voice like homemade mushroom ketchup
10. Susan Dey on the Partridge Family (hahahaha - where's the band?)

What should be the plot for a Steely Dan movie - can't be the obvious from there songs, and like their multi-layered music, should have at least 3 sub-plots going on that can only be heard by the probing ear.

Have fun with this one, will enjoy reading when I'm back to work on Monday. Off to do the touristy thing with Mom and Dad.

rescue a dreary Sunday.....

wormt: thanx for the good wishes on the disc (Ruby, you too!), you know where I am when you're ready

on Mingus:
Y'know, Naked Lunch author Burroughs was hanging out with Charles a bunch (or was it the other way around), but I believe Charlie was a bit put off by his 'choice of friends' - imagine, Charles afraid of him....

But on Shortnin' Bread, I love the rhythym he uses leading up to truffles in his revision...from "Cumbia and Jazz Fusion"

"Who said mama's little baby liked shortnin bread?
that's some lie some white man up and said
mama's little baby don't like no shortnin bread
mama's little baby likes truffles....
.....mama's little baby likes African gold mines
mama's little baby likes schools...."

ygk

Well, Blaise...let's take five and a stroll in the park, okay? Now!
LOL

Hello Worm..make yourself a good luck charm and have a fine weekend!!!!

Lisa G. second that one, liked your vocalplanation there. Love that when people know their business!!

Enjoy the weekend everyone,
Banyan Tree Bow,
Gina

How to pull out a worm? What was that?

Oh yeah, frozen rain and why he's laughing at it:

- He's going insane.
- It's chubby rain.
- It's raining skywards now.
- He sees himself walking between the raindrops in the future.
- He's so alone.
- He wants to go home, but it's cold and rainy out there.
- His bad sneakers are full of holes.
- He's just drunk on pina colada.
- He just feels real crappy, that's all.

Unworthy - About that Golem saga: my words exactly. Wanna hang out? Ah, he/she's gone already. Damn.

I just read the third installment of that Golem story and I have to admit... well at least Becker found Montreal on the map, that's a good sign for the future, right? Hmm nice bunch you have here. Too bad I can't be your friends in real life since you don't want anybody around who'll end up sleeping on the floor. Out of the Custerdome and off to Borneo now. See you on the road. Ciao.

I've a little problem that requires some largely impressive detail. My drum instructor wants to work on some session dates when his band isn't working. Does anyone know how he can obtain regular work in the U.K.?
Can anyone help me in regards to the Steely Dan edition of VH-1's Storytellers series. I need to know when they intend to show the programme in this fantastic island resort.

YGK - good morning Keith
again best of luck with the musical venture
I'll be ordering that cd as well

I have a wonderful documentary on Mingus "Triumph of the Underdog" on DVD

I love the part where he does "Momma don't like no shortening bread, momma likes that cavier...."

the man is such an incredible genuis and his composing and playing blows me away everytime. The subtle nuances, the moving gestures, the moods envoked - magical

not to short the 70's and on, but the true hey day of Jazz was and still is the late 50's / early 60's Miles, Train and Mingus and a whole lot more

tom

wormy t: right with you on the Mingus tip - some people actually DON'T find him to be good excercize music.
Or to put another way, "I'd like some Mingus with my breakfast, please" - what a great way to start the day, although I know some who don't agree.
Been reading, "Myself When I am Real" by Gene Santoro, which is an excellent document of his swings and passion.
Not dissing Van at all, but I seem to identify more with Charlie.

ygk

between Van's Philosopher Stone and the Mingus Atlantic box set I have been in full musical nirvana this week

two artists, make that three that always seem to uplight and stimulate one, and take one somewhere else even in the midst of the mundane

Sir Steven Dan indeed - thanks for the Potter insight and look forward to hearing about other things he's played on

I can't say that Raleigh was the best damn Dan convention (I unfortunately missed out on S.D.) but we certainly had a great time didn't we?

Corpsy V - don't worry about all those operations, attend to the major

aja - it probably won't be till early next week on the package, Ruby you too, and I was just playing with you on the Na Na deal there

off for the weekend - I won on an appeal and the judge has to hear my son's school issue case monday - wish me luck

I feel like a juggler running out of hands

wt

that shape is my shape

Good Morning,

Lisa G: I join Miz Ducky and steviedan in their applause!

Last night I dusted off the old Casio (I know, I know) & did some warmups. Report: my range goes from E below middle C (3rd space up on the bass clef, just below the F you mentioned), up to the A on the first line above the G clef. My “comfort zone” only goes up to an octave above middle C. Now I thought my low E was pretty solid but I would not consider myself eminently qualified to judge such things.

I know timbre, yes, learned that stuff back somewhere in the mists of time.

JUJU princess, I heard you loud and clear & will check out Cassandra Wilson ASAP!

clicking my heels & falling in line,
marching down those ledger lines

gimme a break.

Corpsy V reporting, just heard the word about a weekend in the mountains. Major dr Mu would supply the mules we're to use for all purposes. It's part of the sensitivity training under the command of Colonel WT. Now this is very important. Some local New York cable station has taken interest in our well organized eh, organization. They wanted to have this feature on the battleship The Lady Rumble Strip. But we won't do that sea-routine until next week. So they've agreed on coming with us to the mountains instead. But they will also witness our Golden Teeth II Project next week.
Nothing to worry about. Let's all proceed as usual. Be ourselves. Never mind the camera's. Remember cadets, click them heels simultaneously. Yes, cadet Rose D., what did you say? Daddy don't live in that New York City no more?
Take her to the infirmary, privates Y. and Z. Last time she was laughing at the frozen rain, so no Calamity Rose to fumble up this field trip of ours. Certainly not in front of TV. Now, hit that Rhodes and sound off, 1,2,3,4 ........

Second Fiddle - send your papers with a pinshot to the office and I'll let you know.

So, that's better.

D A L L A S, 1st verse according to stAls Lyrics Page:

"I lived in holy house but the Grand Hotel
Back streets of this old town I know so well
and I drunken no holy wine save Muscatel
And now my friend I got to go
You tell everyone I know..."

Some of the words there are wrong, so, hereby I am forwarding you the right lyrics (for folks like Bob, coverbands etc etc)

"I lived in no holy house but the Grand Hotel
The streets of this old town, I know so well
I'm drunk and no holy wine save the Muscatel
And now I got to go

Second Fiddle - send your papers with a pinshot to the office and I'll let you know.
You tell everyone I know
Sayin' goodbye..."

I want you all to myself. I'm very possessive and insanely jealous.

Gina - if you're refering to the Strangers post: No, I was not serious.

But now I am serious;

what do you say about my idea of having you as a female leader in my Private Harem? Blaise will play the second fiddle to your lead, if she's interested. Let me know. But hurry up with your answer, woman are standing in line to get the job.

Blaise, my sweetheart - "frozen rain" is frozen rain, like in hailshower or hailstorm.

But that is, of course, if you ask me (which you didn't).

If you're asking someone from the New Age-ish side they would probably vindicate that "frozen rain" is an UFO or Freuds Cigar or the left side of a Flying Pointsettia.

Discreet - frank Zappas Publishing Label.

C

MAD PROPS!!!!!!
SOMEONE PUHLEEEEEZE TESTIFY AND VALIDATE HHOW MUCH I HAVE TRIED TO PASS CASSANDRA WILSON ON. SHE IS A QUEEN. QUEEN!!!!!!!!!

resident JUJU PRINCESS- chere

Lisa G: [applause] Bravisima, Diva! That little treatise on voices was fabulous!

I can always pick Mike McD out of the backgrounds too; and I can nearly always pick out Donald (no matter how he's piled on the effects and multitracks)

Me, I've sung second soprano and second alto. With good warm-ups and lots of vocal exercise, I was able to cover both pretty damn well, if I do say so myself (not at the same time, of course--thank Whomever!). I even developed a pretty presentable low F, with some practice; since I haven't sung since I quit my former chorus nearly a year ago, I'm pretty sure I don't have that F right now.

I miss choral singing, but there is just no way it will fit in my schedule right now. Ah well.

/the Mam'zelle
occasionally a bit of the diva herself

such a splendid essay by lg.

i did notice you qualified that feat to LIVING singers...

dats good coz Betty Carter could do ANYTHING !

rest her sweet soul...

Hey Lady Rumble-to answer thy question:

A-hem!

According to "The New Harvard Dictionary of Music," the accepted theoretical range for the contralto (alto) voice begins at the F below middle C (3rd ledger line below treble staff) and continues up to 4th line D. Many women who sing alto can't even "hit" ("reach comfortably" are better words) that D. And I personally know of no living human female that can sing the F on the bottom with a considerable amount of fullness and strong tonal quality. There are some professional contraltos in the world, but none that come to mind.
Many pop and jazz singers can "sing" the low F (I do it all the time, and I'm really a soprano), but the voice quality is considerably compromised in the classical sense of singing (with the great exception of THE SISTER, Cassandra Wilson). This exodus to the "low part" of the female voice has actually done more harm to "quality" vocal use in the commercial realm. Women just sing tooo darn low. Many cannot even be heard unless greatly enhanced with amplification systems. That's why this "low" singing is so successful in the commercial genres where a singer will ALWAYS be amplified.

More on the subject from the dictionary...

"Since the 19th century, voices have usually been classified in six basic types, three male and three female according to their range...[example shows ranges for Bass, Baritone, and Tenor for male voices; and Contralto, Mezzo Soprano, and Soprano for female voices]...Most voices, especially untrained ones, fall into the intermediate ranges [Baritone and Mezzo Soprano], the extremes being more rare (as is reflected in the difficulty of filling the tenor and alto sections of choruses). The limits of range vary among individuals, although trained singers often much exceed those given [in example]. Voices of similar range may be unlike in tessitura-that part of the range that is most comfortable for the singer and sounds best. The voice categories differ in timbre [tone color, see below], with the result that singers of different categories can be distinguished even on the same pitch [except when Don and Walt get a hold of 'em with their fancy machines]. In practice, however, singers of one type often have an admixture of the timbre of another, such as a tenor with some baritonal quality."
[Interesting point that my HS choral teacher once made: "When men and women sing a true unison (the exact same note) right around middle C, the quality of the blended voices is quite eerie as opposed to the quality of just men alone or women alone on the very same pitch."]

Timbre can best be described as that which distingushes Donald Fagen's voice from Michael McDonald's. I can most often pick out McDonald in all the mixes regardless of what effects have been added to it. In my next life, I would like to come back as him.

::stepping down from podium::

... how many female singers it takes to change a lightbulb ? ...

... only one. she will hold the bulb & the world will revolve around her !!!!

just kidding ladies. i know there's some talent here. i just know it.

oh my friend of segmentation, i have dug through boxes and shelves, studied the evidence and returned with the verdict. the best potter albums are all on concord jazz, a very conservative label for what chris is puttin' down. they're all great, but here's three, no particular order:

Unspoken: with Scofield, Dave Holland, & Jack DeJohnette. all originals, which is true for nearly all his albums.

Vertigo: with Kurt Rosenwinkel on guitar (chris seems to favor the guitar quartet format), Joe Lovano sax, Billy Drummond drummin'. this is his most recent album and the ensemble writing benefits from the extra voice.

Moving In: would be a sentimental favorite because of the presence of Brad Mehldau on piano (check him out !) and the incredible Billy Hart on percussion whom i met when i was about 12 and he was here with Marian McPartland.

i also have him on a few things as a sideman. you know, in jazz, it often doesn't matter who leads the date. the same sessions can turn into several people's albums. i'll mention them as i come across them if noteworthy.

yessir roy, she was kickin' ass and takin' names.

hey MC, good to hear from you.

craig lapage, i don't think anyone could say it better than that. we'll call it the toast. cheers friends. cut the cake !

lisaG, i live in raleigh, nc (are you the lisa i met at the fest ? i get confused). you know, raleigh, site of the DAMN BEST Steely Dan revue and fest on the ENTIRE US tour !

i think YGK (CD goes on full rotation in the store tomorrow, i just took two days "vacation" at the paint chip buffet) was referring to the gentleman's tapping approach on the bass. tapping is not exclusive to the guitar and Tipping is not a city in China.

gina: HAPPY LIBERATION DAY !

by gawd, if i thought this place was lame or whatever, i'd just type it out, name names, sign mine, and just kiss off. talk about no balls...

anyone interested in trading for "live in 94" (2 discs) from st. louis?? i'm particularly interested in anything from 74. sorry if this offends anyone...

CLAS - Your a nut

Miz Ducky - Quack, Quack

Roy Scam - pull my finger

Chere - ooh...the smell of it

Jive Miguel - smell my finger

Oleander - Man, where you comin' from?/goin'?

Big Fan - yeah, right "BIG"

DrMu - first in your class

fezo - a legend in your own mind

Aja - your my all-time favorite broad

JWMalibu - you connect the dots, you pick up the pieces

Blaise - wait 'till next time

Edd - you are nuts!

Gina - all of the above

Cara mia - yeah Hejira

Top Ten Names for the Next Tour:

11. The Phelonius Pheromone Tour
10. Vicky Victorian Tour
9. The Art Fleming Tour
8. Steely Dan: A Space Odyssey Tour
7. The Federal Case Tour
6. The Citizen Cane Tour
5. The Fez Dispenser Tour
4. Steely Spam - We're Gel-Coated Tour
3. The Shake It, "PEG-HEADS" Tour
2. Man, we've got to get back on the ROAD and away from these Internet Dorks Tour
1. When you sleep on the Wetside Tour

YGK: I'm in the process of moving. When I get my new address, I'll order some sexy, latin, steely, wunderful music - I can hardly wait!! (I just can't order anything yet - it's too close to leaving, but too far from arriving.)

Chere: I enjoyed reading your words on being in love. There's not enough of that on this guestbook if you ask me. Bon appetite!

topsoil tom: Didn't you reccommend Heart of the Sunrise? Your forgiveness is so appreciated.

No one has even asked me what the NA NA Project is. Is this a normal venture?

Mz.Ducky: I love the way a certain poster named Steven thinks about "...but we know you're smokin wherever you are." He connects it with his dad in a very touching way. He mentioned it a few weeks ago.
And "she prays like a Roman with her eyes on fire" reminds me of a Roman Candle. Kind of scary, but cool...

Here's a quote I found interesting...
"They are the tools of the devil. Someone is behind them pulling their strings. I'm very afraid of those boys."
******* Marilyn Manson on the Hansons

rb

"Can't Stop The Music" by the Village People?

"Contemporary Leaders" - Sonny Rollins

Richard Hatch's Greastest Hits?

For those of you lucky enough to own "King of the world", you can hear Walter saying "I think my face is on fire" at about 2:34. THIS WEEKS SD QUIZ: On the cover of Don's NIGHTFLY LP, name the record album that sits in front of the turntable, Answer next week!

JDubs....hope I can reserve a spot on TM2....I don't have anything currently but hope to be back in the saddle again shortly....your Bryce work continues to amaze and inspire me.

Roy....love reading your posts....you're sharp as a tack dude, don't ever doubt it!

ole....hope the Sept. get together comes to pass....we'd love to see some of the old gang again! Hopefully it'll be cooler than Raleigh was....thought I was gonna wilt! I do much better in cold weather (witness Richmond).

Hutch....whatcha been up to dude? I thought I was going to be coming to Richmond this Sunday to meet Opti. She was supposed to be helping open a new B. Dalton store there but something happened this afternoon and she says she won't be going up Friday. Hi to Bill, Robin & Kevin if you see them!

I'm a soprano also, although I think the attitude's been wearing away in the years since I stopped singing in a choral group. The sopranos in our choir were, I think, even more bad-tempered than most and there was frequent turnover in that section - the altos were far more pleasant, except for some of the counter-tenors.

....there is a kinky flava here....zat you?

hello, Gina, maybe Rotterdam.....

ygk

little lines above the staff

if I didn't read music,
I'd say that's pretty kinky

where did monica run off to?

...I've met many sopranos with a wonderful capacity for harmonization. It's just that they get the melody most of the time. Also, I admire them for being able to reach those little lines above the staff...

Lisa, Gee, what's the definition of a true alto? Is it based on range or attitude? :) Gimme a range and I'll try it out. As far as attitude, I'm definitely an alto. I really like singing harmony in general & have a good ear. I have sung 2nd soprano occasionally but I don't enjoy it as much. A bit too high to be really comfortable although I can hit the notes just fine.

East Coast Dan Party? Sounds like a perfect cure for those post-Tour2K blues. What better place than NYC??

& Ric Ocasek --hee hee nice one LG

correct....Mr. Clark

Hi Lisa G..thanks for that s' 's thing..no, won't be working toooo hard anymore, it's over & done with, finito as in THE END.
now i will just have to catch up on that bumming around feeling, at least for a little while and certainly until the Steeled & Co have visited Rotterdam...
nice here, right, all these music folk tuning in.

Dr Mu, just a few years ago we sold some copies of a "new" Coleman album, it was on vinyl actually. i listened to it, like in vaguely, i lived a "scrolling up & down life" then, now i come to think of it.
maybe i can get my hands on it again, will tell the minute i have.

Oleander and Cara Mia, we should have a real Cafe D'Escargot and enjoy nice meals there while listening to nice (Dan)music, have a jamsession, let's say, every day ...stand up parodians, the works...
and franchise it, ofcourse. LOL

Dear misters Becker & Fagen, here's something solid to invest in!!
Good food, drinks, a nice time and splendid music.
Something like that will never wear out, if not pretentious but 100% heartfelt. After having owned a place called The Jolly Jumper, followed by making money for "friends" in The Piccolo, some banquetting and room service ( the half naked men barely dressed in towels and good tips cliche) in a Crowne Plaza and some last hosting in a mediajoint named Forum...i would be thrilled to be hopping around in some cute uniform in a Cafe D'Escargot, really.

there Blaise ..just put your resume on the GB!
Oh, Lisa G. he's definitely a male. why else does Clas want him to be female, right?

am gonna call it a night. it has been a nice week, with the new guests and all, hm, yes, liked that.
bonsoir,
Gina

ygk- You mean Stanley Clark, right? Jordan plays guitar.

boy the Gb is a flutter

YGK - can't wait to hear your stuff, best of luck with it going big

Blaise - so who is helping out in the top ten department?
I knew I was pathetic but hey
hope you found my re butt all in humor and jest

Corpsy V - yours is to observe, not to ask why
I've hereby assigned you full time to Major Blaise's command
I know you will serve him well

Ruby - you dropped one of my na na songs from your list
how will I ever forgive you

got my passport today, 2 weeks

tom

and before my friends find out I'll be on the road

"Echo This, You Son of a Bitch" by the Sex Muskets-Roy, do you know how long I've been looking for that classic?!!

By the way, I'll offer my spinach salad for the GB cookbook. I make it with eggs, bacon, pine nuts and red peppers. Lots of Ca, Vitamin C, and omega-3 fatty acids.

Craig-he's where you think he is.

Aja

".....that number again, folks (LG), is on the top of your screen....featuring the near-epic, 'Like a Steely Dan Movie'...."

You can listen/buy/learn/bug radio,etc. through the site...

ygk

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Well...

(deep subject)

YGK-I'm DYING to hear the recording!!!! Link me up to your website and tell me how to get a copy. PLEASE!!!

Clas-are you SERIOUS about "Do It Again?" ::wink, wink::

Blaise-I had the same question as the Lady Rumblestrip: Qui vous-ete? (une femme ou un homme?) Also, I always thought the frozen rain was nothing special-all Hail.

Gina-it's "heart's desire" being that you speak of one individual heart being possessive. Also, don't go working too hard, girlfriend. Relax...are you finished with that job yet or are you still there? Inquiring non-worms want to know.

Corpsy-I believe the insect-creature you encountered was in fact Rick Ocasek of the Cars.

Stevie-missed you, too. Where are you located? Not that I'm coming over or anything. Just curious.

Rumblestrip-are you a TRUE alto? If so, you are one rare and exotic woman. Well you're neat already, but that would be toooo cool.

Seems our friends out West have the right idea. DanParty East Coast, anyone? NYC?

Chere, this is coming from the heart Florida girl. No one else is more worthy of all the good things this life has to offer.
Your brilliance, joie-de-vivre and ever-shining light of hope is an inspiration to me.
I am in your camp and Chrys sends her best wishes to you as well.
We're here if you need us. Our doors are always open to you and we extend our hand in friendship and support. (God knows you'll need it with you know who!) lol!
You guys are once again hereby ordered to get your butts to Sundance ASAP. I'm keeping the bed turned down, the wine chilled and the coffee brewing.
~Bob wants his cards read!

Hey Fondo, where are you during this craziness?

Craig

Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk RockPunk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk Rock Punk RockNUT STAIN PUNK ROCK ANARCHY LOLITA HACKZ CRACKS PASSWORDS PASSWORDS PUSSY PRE TEEN ILLEGAL SEX VIOLENCE.

rumblestrip - I'll be what I want to be. I feel comfortable as a male but if Clas likes me more as a female, I'm flexible.lol

Can i be the Webdrone? I am available 'round the clock these days.

The venue for the Berlin date 9/17 has changed to Berlin Arena. Please pass it on. Also please keep an eye on http://steelydan.com/2kdates.html for possible future changes, which I may not always be able to flag with a post.

"Can we have some type of Big Chill weekend, make live music, and
delineate the sexes we so easily misidentify here in Cyberville?"
cara mia: I vote an enthusiastic yes! Especially to the making live music part. I offer my services as alto (voice -- I never learned to work the saxophone). Would love to sing anything Dannish with fellow GBers.

rumblestrip

CaraMia, Fezo, Stevie: thanx for the mentions and the complimentos......I figured the disc would work for those of the Steely Kind.....and for what it's worth here, "Like a Steely Dan Movie" is full of SD references and a twisted story,and with horn players that actually worked with Fagen on NYR&S Revue....

JW: can't wait to hear the new TM II - sounds like an interesting mix....

anyone ever check out Tony Webb?
Funky fine bassist on PMG Records out of Detroit - like a Stanley Jordan but has his own sound....

No top 10 lists here, or nods to internationals....just me

ygk

"Asia" you mean discreet. Good one!

Aja

OK, I’m thoroughly confused now. Pardon my ignorance, but let’s get this out of the way. Blaise, art thou male or art thou female?

luckless pedestrian: “I’m hip, I’m alive, I enjoy any joint where there’s jive” ...just a random memory sparked by your post (a song I heard on the radio). Did I seem irritated w/you? Hm, I must go back and re-read. Unfortunately I'm at work and it may take a while to find it. Anyway, I didn’t mean to sound that way - sorry. You will quickly learn that I'm not on-the-ball all the time!! Actually you and I have stuff in common. I love coffee and the B-52s. 'Love Shack' is me & my hubby's song! I have fond memories of dancing to Rock Lobster when I was about 13.

GreeneEarrings: I saw Galaxy Quest several times. Great movie!

Hello Clas, nice to meet you!

Maybe, but it looks like we can't count on you to make it entertaining huh?

Asia, I think you mean "discreet." But then again MDs don't necessarily read more than PAs either...

this place has gotten really lame

There is definitely a Steely Dan song in the making here. Don and Walt, if ever you want to be reading, it's now. I'll be the discrete one. I am so lol right now (in my best nyc parlance).

cara mia, ole-I love you guys! Thanks for the concern, and I am going for that bone density test, but my orthopedist is not worried. I just started triathlon this year, am a classic overtrainer, used to be a heel-strike runner, and the crack was right where the impact would be absorbed. I'm in much better shape now and have learned to train moderately. Spinach salad for dinner tonight with ice cream afterward!

chere-you are such the character. I have the feeling if I mailed you a post card from Monaco you would bless it with your best juju. My best wishes to you, girl, keep your feet on the ground and have fun.

Aja

First, cadet Peddy will now be known as cadet LP, permission granted by our high rank officers. Cadet LP, you show great courage and i'll personally see to it that your first assignment will be a challenge!

Now. I've lost sleep over this, so I've got to tell. It wasn't intentional, but the Major Blaise and I were working on this top secret project. No-one was to know. Not even Major Mu and the Colonel. They shipped us of to a desolate place, somewhere in a swamp. Real humid. Real dark. Real scary.

At one point, when the Major and I left for another desolate place, somewhere in the same swamp I figured, I was attacked by a giant insect. It was frightening. It had the body of a fly, but the face of a human. It were the eyes that made me scream out in primal fear. If it hadn't been for the Major, I wouldn't be here telling you this. He took his portable CD-player, turned the volume up 'til the max and managed to put the headphones on the fly's head. You had to be there to believe it, really.
The human face changed from an evil one to a harmless soothed baby-face. The Major pulled back the headphones and pushed the giant insect into the swamp where it went down in the muddy bubbly greenish, sorry, It still gets to me at moments.

Since then the Major and I have this special bond. Although it was lead to believe I was saving myself for the Colonel WT, this particular act of courage could not be in vain!!

The Major refuses to tell me what music really disarmed the giant insect. He said it's knowledge not for the rescued ones, but for the saviours only. Major Blaise and the savoir-faire, he's my hero!

Corpsy V, reporting back on duty. This is as much as I can reveil, for now. We will continue on a professional level, though. So, cadets, click them heels and march on out, 1,2,3,4......

and i was told to stop working, well, i'll just follow those orders, right? LOL

you know what i like most about my decision to stop working here?
to listen to your heart's/hearts' (always in doubt there) desire, i did the very same thing and feel good about it. btw, is it the first time ever in the history of this Guestbook, the Chere-Soout union..? i'm really amazed. what magic, right?
just love it, things like that!!!

Chere, we would like to see a picture, really ..i know i would..it is quite unique, you know......maybe St.Al has room for one?

now, before i drown myself in the romantic waves here....

half an hour left to lounge.
this is a nice day, a nice day indeed!
xxx Gina

Okay, no more Satan stuff everybody - I just got a kick out of x the thought of x playing Katy Lied backward and hearing Satanic ritualistic pinings....

honey when they gonna send me home?

don't let the smoke get in your eyes!

Corpsy V reporting here. feel obliged to tell about the disappearance of the major Blaise. will do so at the Cafe D'Escargot, at an appropiate time. don't want children to easedrop.

Wormy - Problem is, i haven't written one of those in over a week now... But i don't mind taking the blame or the credit for all of those. I look real prolific then. lol

Ruby~ Your Trials of Life parody described my adolescence quite well. Ah, the memories. Thanks for calling me a unique creature and for using my name in a pun. (Royalties was an intended pun, wasn't it?)
LP~ My first impression of the song "Brooklyn" was that 'the charmer under me' might be the little red fellow with the pitchfork. Who would owe him more than the city of New York?
Speaking of theology, I see that God sent the first stage of his vengeance (unconquerable masses of bugs) to enact judgement on the new baseball stadium in Detroit yesterday. That was aw-haw-some.
oleander~ Don your jeans and pearls and hop on the handlebars. I get about 5 miles per 100 calories, so if you keep me in Sky Bars we should be able to make Mexico City. (Nice this year they say.) It make take longer than it used to however; I used to be fat-tired, now I'm fat & tired.
steviedan~ Amen on Diana Rigg. A Shakesperian actress in Olympic condition, kicking ass in leather. And delivering Oscar Wilde-worthy quips all the while. Out damned spot.
Q~ Amen on The Simpsons. Perhaps the best tv series ever; it's a dead heat between Ralph Cramden and Homer. -- I've also been on the Homer Simpson diet: If you rub some food against a piece of paper and the paper turns clear, the food is good.
RS

Blaise, I'll get you for this

top ten reasons you don't want to ride in the Red Blaizer

10) the Canadian Mounties have him on their most wanted
9) the back seat flips over into a kinky day glow lovefest waterbed
8) he likes his women shaken not stirred
7) this is the day of the expanding man isn't a nice come on line
6) you never know what you just agreed to in French
5) no Cuervo Gold or fine Columbian but he still wants to "make tonight a wonderful thing"
4) power door and window locks
3) the birthday in Spain trip will never end early enough
2) Wormy isn't interested in second dibs
1) the guy only spouts Steely Dan to score babes

top ten reasons the worm will always be a hopeless romantic

12) what women in her right mind would venture into the topsoil?
11) New Iberia, Louisiana is not a hot spot romantic getaway
10) you'd have to hear his diatribe song analysis all day long
9) I hear he's saving himself, ha ha ha
8) isn't stalking Vicki Cave scary enough?
7) you have no intereset in that silly grammer thing he has going
6) the guy is foggy enough without any drugs
5) he doesn't wear any pads or protection
4) he might pull the colonel mode in a fantasy roleplay
3) ob v us liegh de rain ged
2) parodees of sexual escapdes, no no no
1) blaise gets seconds

I guess I'm flubbing up big time here.

Okay - Satan was only mentioned in response to x's supposition that our lyricists may be under the influence of a much darker force of evil, instead of the mere day in the life of NYC. I do not fear Satan, I invite him in for tea to see what he's been up to lately.

And the excesses comments - I only saw the link with the 3 mentioned in terms of economic conditions - living high will take its toll - the royal scam en total - black friday en total. All 3 songs take on the living Nothin too heavy, just wanted to get a conversation going about the SD set choice and general thoughts on the meaning of life...

Happy to hear some one's Karma has found a happy home. Good luck to you, the water will turn to cherry wine.

Have a great day - will check in.

I am in a weird mood today so i thought i would share a GB story related to Soout like you would do at a bachelor party. A few months back, a certain Lady Godiva emailed to reassure me about the fact that Steven was sending me messages asking me questions and all that. She said he just wanted to know if i was kinky. Now, all this time i thought these people wanted a threesome or something. It turns out that kinky is a pet name for a resident minion here. I found this out later on. In this case, no, i'm not kinky. Although the thought did cross my mind to be adventurous all this time, know what i mean? lol

top ten reasons you'd never run off with a GB date

12) after they've had Clas anything else is just leftovers
11) the gender question never comes up early enough
10) the GB gets the whole skinny from his/her friends
9) Blaise will satirize you with yet another top 10
8) what you really wanted all along was Donald or Walter or Vicki or Carolyn
7) you've already promoted her to corporal
6) real vibrant and endearing women or men actually exist in your very own hometown, if you'd ever get off the computer long enough to find out
5) she/he doesn't get the subtle nuances of Deacon Blues or Negative Girl
4) the gal posting to you is really just another Ballah alias
3) you actually like some Bruce Springsteen
2) mother warned you against internet pranksters
1) you'd rather climb the garden wall and head for the cave

third in the row of this nice setting ..Worm..Blaise..

that's all, really. some juvenile thing to post right after you.

back to lounging.
Gina

Ole - why live and learn? I never wanna die gracefully

Robin - no - more a team building exercise and being accepting of others. I got in some good one liners

LucklessPed - why do we need to bring satan into this?
"Prays like a Roman with her eyes on fire" is a nice chuckle and refers to the falling of the Roman Empire not some Luciferian afterlife torture

Roy - loved your insights on classical composers
Amadeus indeed

wormy

I rise when the sun goes down

And that GB Cookbook must include the formula for a JUJU concoction. In fact, make it one for the bad (for the resident loco) and one for the good. I want my life to take an Instant Kharma turn like that. I'm kinda jealous here.

Ole - What is meant by frozen rain? I would have a list of a dozen possible meanings but... nah, my friend doesn't like it and i like her too much for that.

Darn! All this time i spent trying to seduce Sooutrageous and look what happens.
Chere, any of that Juju leftover? I kind of have a problem here that needs to be taken care of...
May you have a wonderful life experience together, Chere and Steven. Why not?

LOL that Clas and the lyric page...

Yes 3x last day here, but i'll definitely be online until the end of the month, so i can still check in to see what's happening Under the Trees.

am just lounging my day away, so ......
back to some lurking pose.

i like the variety in threads offered by a variety of Dan adepts.

Chere ..sigh, she says..enjoy your luck, dear!
Some of all the positivity will surely rub off on the rest of us!

c'est tout maintenant,
G

kirschwasser (German) = körsbärsbrännvin (Swedish) = cherry brandy (English),

got it?

the Stranger - "But they'll do it again. Do It Again, get it?"

???

Yeah, I get it, they will do it again. But why did you have to repeat that "Do it again"?

Lisa G / rumblestrip - oh girls! You are WOMAN! I didn't know! Very very welcome. And Blaise, you are so welcome too, I didn't know you were a french la femme fatale! Can I offer you woman some espressos? Croissants? A little music from the French squeeze-box-muzette?

Just say when.

Let me tell you, I used to have a harem here, but it's gone. I don't know hell what happened. The only ones left are the eunuchs.

And those eunuchs are a sight for the gods. They have no balls you see.

AND HEY! It's spelled "omelett", that's a french word, that dish origins from France, so don't try anything, you US-natives.

AND YESSS, a Cookbook, I have a wonderful recipe on a Chicken-Liver-Stew, I have invented it myself, everybody loves it. The ingredienses are mushrooms (champignons), sliced bacon, cream, chutney (homemade, apple or tomato-chutney), creme fraiche, Sambal Badjak, garlic, soja.

Should be served with spaghetti. No ketchup!

So long,

have to check out the lyrics page. I get back.

C

Hello, Eu gostaria de aprender mais, e invest possivelmente nesta oportunidade. Eu posso ler o francês, mas posso somente falar o português. Eu aprecío fucking yaks, também. Diga-me por favor mais. P.S., escrevem para trás se você quiser uma versão francesa deste email. consideração, Tristan Fabriani

Steviedan- darlin' no we did not happen upon Haiti, but I can assure you, it is everything D&W would write a song about. I did encounter some Haitian's who worked at our temporary residence, and one fellow went prostrate to my feet when he saw my necklaces. The number of them that I wear and the sybolism they represent makes a seasoned native practitioneer look twice and give mad respect. It is not and uncommon occurence. A white woman with so many colours and crystal clear exotic faith speaks for itself. Madame Erzulie did pass through, and Oshun and Yemeya made everything tender and sweet. The Haitian influence WAS definantly there. Mr Becker would be so proud. I know Papa Legba is.

Ole- Thanks girlfriend. I truly am a brave new girl in a brave new world. And the view from the other side of no tomorrow is something to behold. It truly is as heaven is imagined to be.

Just for the record..... I was not looking for love. I was not expecting anything- remember?, I live frugally on surprise. I asked the gods a long while ago to make everything wrong in my life, right again and good and send my way what I deserved. I did not work any JUJU to manipulate anything. I do not do that sort of thing, except of course for legal matters, or a special need for healing rays, especially with my infirmities. There was no specific request, no specific person, place, or thing. Not that I ever doubted this, but just so you all know, Miracles Do happen, Magic Does happen, and Love IS really all you need. The rest just sort of falls into place. I know now it must always begin with the soul. Listen to Robin Trower's "Daydream" and it gives great meaning to the concept of being "spellbound", even for a powerful JUJU princess like myself.

I thank you all for the love and niceties. They bring a smile to my face and a warmth to my heart. I really meant when I said I loved you all. May the Gods continually bless the Dan for being such an important element and catalyst of this beautiful sweet thing. I am awash ablush and basking in the light of it all.

As for Whomever it was that mentioned any element of "bad karma" I say this:

"At any moment the heart can open.
At any moment the karmic structure
can be completely overcome
by the willingness of the soul."

The power of a soul far surpasses "Simple Judgement".

Really Great Instant Karma just got you - the JUJU Princess chere

**CHERE!!! CONGRATULATIONS

**HI FEZO, MIX DUCKY, MR. LA PAGE, LISA G., RAZOR, CAM ROYCE, STRANGER, OLEANDER **

JAMES DON'T WAIT ANOTHER 3 MONTHS!!

JERRY LEE, WE HAVE AN OLD PIANO LEFT TO WRECK, SO .......

certainly not to make light of any of this in any way, but on this page at this time the absolute most burning question that must be asked, especially here, is......

chere ? you guys didn't happen upon a little island known as haiti did you ?

wasn't mister soout already married? doesn't sound like good clean karma to me.

cara, Stranger--OK, let me go out on a limb here and propose a Technicolor Motorhome 2K Release Party. It will take us until 2001 to argue through where to have it, though. And by then maybe there'll be another tour.

chere--mazel tov, girlfriend! You actually did it! Brave new girl in a brave new world. Be happy.

fezo--welcome back from Scotland. You wearing a kilt and one of those manly scarf things now, sans jockeys? You really would have scared off those people in Manassas.

Edd--so you got any leftovers?

And now for another word from medical meddlerdom:

Aja--a cracked sacrum is def unusual. I'd expect someone who does as much impact as you to have bones of steel. You might consider a bone density as cara shrewdly suggested.

wormtom--Come on now! After that damn concussion you still don't wear any protection because it CHAFES? I don't know if the kid will learn OR live!

JW--all I can say is I'm damn glad you survived all that to see that smiling little whiskery face, and to end up here.

Now back to our scheduled rant, er, program.

Blaise--depends on what you mean by frozen rain.

Luckless--Welcome, and a-HEM! I asked you to expound on your comment many posts back. Dug it when you did. Lessee, excessless: depends on what you mean by excess. "Caves"? "Any World"? "The Fez" (such restraint!)? "Brooklyn"? "Little Kawai"? "Only A Fool"? "Bodhisattva" (tongue in cheek renunciation--that could be an excess)? "FM" ("no static at all")? BTW, there used to be a Luckless Pedestrian who was a guy, but he hasn't been around a long time. Maybe you should do like all the high school sports teams around here and be Luckless Pedestrianette or Luckless Lady Pedestrian. And yes, I can still smell the blueprint machine from my printshop days.

Gina--the Cafe d'Escargot need anybody to pass out hors d'oeuvres? I'll work in your joint anytime.

Mu--How about Rahsaan Roulade Kirk? Art Pepper? Gene Almonds? Mark Icecream? Pharaoh Sandwich? Arrrgghhh--you got me going AGAIN!

Skully--welcome too.

z--burnt-out miscreants are my cup of java, baby. Like you.

RS--oh baby, sling me up on the back of that fat-tired thing and take me away from all this!

It's cuzzin Jimmy that's the black sheep, not me

whoa chere ! WHOA ! awesome !

james, i'm sure you don't know this, but you were sent here by, well i'm not sure. i don't know... could it be... SATAN ?

zx, don't sugarcoat it, don't hold back, swaggart's dark angel has appeared and our souls are troubled. hand me that snake !

the burroughs album is in my collection. it's a cool piece. i've enjoyed the man's work, but have a hard time forgiving him the william tell incident where his wife was killed. that and his love of firearms.

rubybaby: guilty as charged, but it's just keen that the bradys made the cut. the song IS nana.

LisaG, you were missed, but people drift in and out so much it takes a while to notice. like someone said, where's I.O. ? probably MIA for 2-3 weeks getting used to the new academic landscape. it's like you're still just right there.

skully (the character) IS a strong person. kick ass actually, only vulnerable in certain regards, just like men. mulder is displayed as emotional and weak at times as well. that's why they're great characters, they're kinda human. unlike the idiots from survivor. i've never seen the show, but seeing the reunion tonight for about 5-7 minutes made me understand what could make a man jump into an active volcano or swim out to the sharks.

favorite tv heroine ? no contest. hands down. emma peale from the avengers. ah, diana rigg, what an intense babe-strobe-a-thon. and she could beat you like a dirty rug. she, like Jeannie and the Hee Haw girls, helped to forge my orientation

Now this is more like it - those of us who are settled in for a lifetime of tea enjoy a look out the window to see what everyone else is up to every once in a while.

I'll keep my promise when, you....

Cara Mia,
Sure we can organize something around L.A. Remember that Dan copy band which showed up at the Danfest in Irvine? They play down the coast in Orange County from time to time. Next gig is Sept. 8, but I'll be in San Fran that weekend. Has anyone actually heard them? For those interested, that's the Tiki Bar, Costa Mesa, 8 pm. But they'll do it again. Do It Again, get it?

Don't worry, Mr. Discretion, I won't spill the things you've said (and written) to me. Be careful with people's hearts-that comes back to you, you know.

Aja

Call me dense, but I think I have missed something big here, JuJu Chere, yet I read and read everything (only retain 10% for sure, but who can blame me?)...

Are you saying you got married to a marooned GB'er????????
Isn't your Caribbean beau going to be mad?
;-)

ygk---listened all day long to your beauteous creation CD
"malcolm hunter's wondergroud radio".
Hey, everybody, I bought 3 copies and will pass them on to those in the know and who can appreciate his fine artistry.
You can get yours at his namesake website.com.
M, your voice reminds me of a very sexy Michael Franks (already mentioned today) with a wonderfully dangerous edge.
I really dig "Like a Steely Dan Movie" best of all.
You acknowledged the GB denizens in you liner notes, and that is REALLY special.

Much luck and success with your music getting heard.

Can we have some type of Big Chill weekend, make live music, and
delineate the sexes we so easily misidentify here in Cyberville?
Where should we meet?
How about DollyWood?

Glad to see more middle-aged (or nearly) women-folk hanging out here and holding their own. Welcome ladies.

Aja--you need to get a bone density test. You are too young for
that area to get broken, unless you are literally pounding pavement directly with your coccyx...yikes!
Being a thin caucasian, I fear you have some calcium depletion of a serious nature. Enough nurse lecturing...lem'me know how you be. (I didn't win British Dan trip either, but would have invited you as my guest had I been so lucky).

mr. z -- zzzzzzzzzzzz....

Lots O' Laughs spewing on my screen as I scroll/read these days.

cara mia Marsha,
coming up for air only to return to bliss in 8 days with Bruce-loving, Hef-emulating, marathon man

you're about to find out what I already know.

Chere-How wonderful that you feel such love. You certainly are a lucky one. Keep sharing this tale that's warming our hearts.

LG

Note e mail address change. Please all who e mail me take a note. Yes I have returned from the tropical West Indies back to my little Florida room.Just in time for hurricaine season to really start up. No hiding behind Cuban Breezes here. A JuJu PRINCESS indeed I have become. Clever and cunning bred the perfect love. Two souls forever joined, no holds barred, no regrets, no bad karma. Oh and yes it was all SO outrageous. Rightfully so. Our "castaway" as he is so FONDOly called these days IS a gentlemen in every true sense of the word, thanks for all that nautical guidance Craig. And yes the JUJU chile' is now a JUJU Princess. Who knew? The Gb a bridge for the union of two souls. Mastery in it's finest form. I am barely beyond words these days. I am too busy reliving tender moments of a love I never knew COULD be felt. And a love that COULD be so NATURALLY reciprocated. I am on the other side of no tomorrow. It is beautiful here. I am beautiful here. I so look forward to meeting some of you special folks so close to our famous castaway in the near future who I know are completely appreciating this tale of two hearts without any reservation. You know who you are. I love you all so very much. And I thank you.

Steven I know you are reading this, know in all certainty my heart and soul are yours forever and an infinite number of days........

Much love and karma - the resident JUJU princess making history- chere

I'm hip. (great Cheech and Chong line)

Look at my sampling of musical things I like in previous postings, anything you want taped on the flip side?

I'll take your choice of the Best of the Dead.

I think I may pull this deadline off- public servancy is alive and well in massachusetts.....

we'll make some calls from my car....who knew?

I'm not talking trade of the CD, just a cassete copy.

I've got a another live SD concert to swap. If you're up for it post your e-mail and we'll do it.

g.e.

Wormtom, I am curious. The diversity training--is it the one I took where (among other things) they give you a picture of a person and you and your group create a life history for the person?

Ouch - the 23 year old story is too much - but our boys enjoy that gig - remember the scene outside a the studio for the PBS special where a couple of Gen Y-ers are asked what their favorite song was and they said Year of the Cat - I never laughed so hard at a PBS special.

Sorry, can't trade my LA CD, it was a special gift, just chatting about it to see if it's a rarity or not.

Martin Sheen for president, who's with me? But he's got to bring his writers with him, and well, even Rob Lowe turned out okay, like most of us 80's swingers....(hey I still have my Draft Cuomo button from 92)

and a pina colada my friend

A sad story to begin with;

While packing up my office today for a move to another building, a 23 year old co-worker noticed my usually cabneted CD collection. Bob Marley caught her eye and excitement followed as she noticed Santana, U2, Grateful Dead etc. She then turned to a co-worker and said "Jim, who is Dan Steely"?
I obviously have some work to do at the new digs.

KD asked; Who likes "Queen II?"

I do KD but have a slight problem. As a teenager, QII was constantly on the turntable. During my late night reading of "The Exorcist" I had it on repeat with the lights down low. To this day, images (scary) flashback whenever I play the album/CD. No joke, I get goosebumps as if I were reading the book and passages flashback vividly. Devils music indeed...

David in the Florida Room; Battan down the hatches with the hurricane approaching and Live SD is on its way to cure your jones. Neither rain or sleet or dark of night... I hope its true. Enjoy!

Any Trekkie (I'm not) or psuedo-trekkie (I are) must see the movie Galaxy Quest. The funniest movie of the past year. Serously!

LaPage? dates for funDANce?

Interested in the SD LA live Import. Shall we trade???

Finally, LP and other newbies welcome, and a big time yes on "The West Wing". We'll chat about it sometime.

Peace all,

G.E.

What a surprise. I haven't been to this board for 3 months and when I do you are talking about Jimmy Swaggart. I represented his radio and TV shows for 4 years in the mid 70's. He knows a lot about the devil. Maybe way too much. According to biblical scholars, Lucifer was originally a musician in Heaven before he crapped in his mess kit. You really never know who is going to be a Dan fan, do you? I haven't been here much because I've been kinda pissed at our boys since they cancelled Phoenix but who can blame them? It's far to hot to perform outside at Blockbuster anyway. Oh, by they way, yes there is a lot more to the Jimmy Swaggart story than the public knows but who cares? Bring back Drew Zingg!

Luckless Pedestrian asks:

"Is there a line with a direct reference to Satan in SD lyric book?"

Closest I can think of, and it's actually more an oblique reference, are those last few lines of "Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More:"

"Daddy can't get no fine cigar
But we know you're smoking, wherever you are ... "

Oh yeah--not really the same thing at all, but "Josie" has an oblique reference to pagan/heathen goings-on:

"She prays like a Roman with her eyes on fire"

Such fun, eh? :-)

/the Mam'zelle
always up for some good clean pagan fun

P.S. Howdy, Rumblestrip!

Rumblestrip - glad to see you, thought my entrance to this group was an irritant to you, but hopefully not akin to our friend x. Sticker parking only for some of us.

Roy.scam - I saw that show on the History Channel

Is there a line with a direct reference to Satan in SD lyric book? My brain can only venture into the Dead tune referenced above. Now I can't rid of the song in my head - at least it got rid of the nanana's of Journey (a band I've been trying to forget since high school).

.....and leave him lying in the rain....
{not the best ending, but I'm still stressed working here on my deadline, so my mind has turned to applesauce}

[will check in later to see if anyone wants to chat with me.]

To All: I've finished the NA NA Project. I couldn't have done it without you! I chose 17 songs. I already had several, so I only needed to *acquire* a few... The line up is:
1)Land of 1000 dances (wilson picket)
2)Get Jiggy With It (wil smith)
3)Centerfold (J. Giels)
4)Kiss Him Goodbye (steam)
5)Change of the Guard
6)Wonderful (everclear)
7)Get a job (Sha Na Na)
8)Time to Change (Brady Kids)
9)Pretty Young Thing (michael J)
10) The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down (the Band, live)
11)Ohio (c,s,n& y)
12)Cuts Like A Knife (bryan adams)
13)Hush (deep purple)
14)So This Is Eden (bad english)
15)Lovin' Touchin' Sqeezin' (journey)
16)Hey Jude (beatles)
17)Holy One (sonic flood)

Whoever suggested Time To Change by the Brady Kids - thanks, it makes a great addition BUT it's stuck in my head now. What have you done to me?! shanananaNananana ShananaNaNa!

RoyScam: Little did you know that while you were experiencing the joys of nature, David Attenborough & his crew were looming around the bends. I saw you on his Trials of Life series.

"...We see here that unique creature, the RoyScam, entering enemy territory seemingly without a care. These leather clad fellows are amongst the most aggressive and ferocious of their kind, but the RoyScam is so brave - or is he? Ah, we see that when threatened, his ability to outrun his opponents is unmatched as he executes tremendous maneuvers to escape!..."

I think you deserve some royalties.

JW: I speak sea lion - oorrk means "was up!!?"

rb

Actually Jimmy Swaggart was only partly correct. Satan was using music to further his sinister plots long before he and Chuck Berry perfected rock and roll. In support I offer the following quotes from the History Channel special "Hell Yes I Write the Songs" aired August 66, 2000:

The first Gregorian chant was composed by a lonely bachelor emulating the cries of passion (and grunts of anger at the rebuke of passion) coming from neighboring huts and caves. Thus the birth of The Devil's Music.

Mozart himself was a rebellious hell raiser (Amadeus translates to the disrespectful phrase, "I'm a god"). He was once quoted as saying, "If I'm going to Hell, I'm going playing the harpsichord."

It's a carefully concealed fact that Handel was such a social abberant that he made Kid Rock and Tupac look like Patience and Prudence. On weekends he would sneak away from his day job as ecclesiastical song writer at the Sistine Building and play local punk clubs, where rowdy middle ages hooligans would slam minuet and dive into mosh orchestras. He had two financially succesful alternative hits, "Highway to Dante's Inferno" and the controversial "Messiah, Schmessia".

The first heavy metal song, "Echo This, you Son of a Bitch!" was actually performed on a Swiss mountain top in 1641 by a four man alpenhorn combo known as The Sex Muskets. To this day, that performance may represent the heaviest metal ever commited to sound.

I could go on but you've all stopped reading by now.

RS

z-- Did you just say that Satan writes catchy tunes? Did he do that one about 'what the world needs now is love'? What a guy: He invented Las Vegas AND he can sit at the piano and be the life of the party with his own original material. Jimmy Swaggart must have been right.

Lisa G: Unless I scrolled past it, I didn't get a welcome from Clas either. Maybe he thinks I'm a guy. I've been so good about the 3 dots thing too.............

steviedan: Well, I care! Thanks again, your musical insights are much appreciated.

Miz Ducky: welcome back!

OK, someone can have my parking space now.

LL Ped - I take fully responsibility for the complete and utter waste that is my life
(Neil Diamond and Mom and Dad nonwithstanding)
Gabriel and Roxy and well within my musical aura

JW - burst my bubble, you wrote
Attesting firsthand to Aja's "magically babelicious-ness", she is DEFINITELY not a guy!

~ damn, curse me lucky charms, and here I was wanting to take him to the custerdome

JMoney - Craig - Sundance may be a go, how about when the Aspens are quaking magnificent yellow?

worm tom

no he can't sleep on the floor

Hmmmm, 'exiled' to a lush tropical paradise, surrounded by beautiful exotic women and an endless supply of Maui Wauwie....

where do I send my resume?

Razor

aussi=also (not someone from Australia)
[Hey JW, Gina and Stevie!!!!! Enjoyed your posts among others! Royscam wins, however.]

YEESH!!!!! Go away for 5 and 1/2 days, not only are you not missed, but you have 3 and 1/2 hrs. of catch-up reading to do...

Luckless P and Skully-Welcome (and others I have missed as my right hand is numb from holding it up to the mousepad for scrolling purposes, which is severely handicapping my ability to type).

Went away to help my mother who fell a couple of weeks ago and broke 3 ankle bones. She also dislocated the ankle. She's in a lot of pain. I would imagine her bones are starting to get brittle at 56, which is why she did this much damage falling all of 12 inches. I'm thoroughly exhausted after cleaning her rather large house yesterday from one end to the other, not to mention the cooking, laundering, and the care-tending. I'm wiped and really should be sleeping now. But such is life! I am addicted to this GB and kinda missed all of you.

Aussi, I feel actually initiated now having an aircraft named after me...but I digress.

Made a trip today with C2Ecstasy blaring from all four speakers. Life is good.

Voulez-voulez-voulez-vous,

LG

(not to be confused with "LP," which, incidentally, used to be my initials before marriage)

P.S. I'm deeply saddened that Clas did not give me the warm welcome he gives all other women. Guess I'm not his typo...

Hey Z, relax, it's just a song, man......

pass out on the bedroom floor - aaahhhh does it for me every time........

go left a little buddy, your pendulum is stuck too far to the right......

But we respect your opinion, so return, then, to the Amy Grant web-site where things are safe and happy.......

to the others - love the B-52's too. The orange suit Fred wore in the 92 tour was fab.

There is no such thing as excessive java or too many chesterfield kings.

I am a respectable Pierre Franey 60 minute gourmet (though I'm still at 90 minutes), but the no-cook approach of raw oysters and Harp beer is fine with me.

Good call on Bryan Ferry, forgot him on my hit parade. I'm a closet Neil Diamond fan - but the reference otherwise was meant as a "don't blame your mom and dad anymore" statement.

Mr. LaPage - do not consider me a snob -
I'm ready to cross that fine line.....

Back to meeting my deadline.

"A New Standard By Which To Measure Infamy," I think.

Major µ: Try a different key, perhaps. "Rapid Run" does have its pluses.

z: RIGHT ON! oh, wait, no.

I'm getting very disturbed over the adulation you people are giving these two burnt-out miscreants from the 70s.
I've already outlined their fascistic tendencies on this board a few weeks ago, and yesterday I heralded their racist incitements, but no one seemed to take notice.
Do the words "Look at all the white men on the street" and "turn that jungle music down" ring a bell?
How about "your hat's too flat" and "bodacious gaucho amigo, such as your kind, will never be welcome here"?
Back in the 70s, we prayed that these two hooligans would be silenced forever, with their rampant glorification of illegal drug use, recreational sex and even more disturbing championing of pedastry ("everyone's gone to the movies, now we're alone at last")- I've heard rumors of WBs "exile" to some tropical island being similar to Roman Polanski's.
Sure, they could write "catchy little tunes", but isn't that how Satan usually seduces us to "skate a little lower now"?
And who knows if they really even wrote those tunes to begin with? There was already that Keith Jarret/Gaucho debacle they seemed to have glossed over. Who knows how many other of their little melodies were fashioned this way? After all, are we supposed to believe that the two fops who penned such forgettable rock and or roll ditties as "Daddy Don't Live in NYC No More", and most of their other early noise, are the same two composers of such Pop/Jazz masterpieces on their "Aja" and "Gaucho" albums as both titular pieces on the same records? I think not!
Well, I could go on much further about how they force one of their most talented African-American sidemen to toot his little saxophone on noisy smelly NYC subways, begging for coins that he must turn over to them so they can purchase their "Scotch Whiskey, Cuervo Gold, fine Colombian, Cuban Breeze, Kershwasser (whatever that is! )and Jack of Speed" to forget their miserable existences with, but my computer time in this facility is almost up. So, until next time...

LP, I hope you realize that J. was talking with tongue firmly implanted in cheek when referring to our Paris beer outing and I would venture to say that we are most definitely the type of men you would avoid in social situations.

Craig

not that anyone cares but

angular = me

6/4 stretto fugue = me 2

leave Neil Diamond alone, he was cool enough to be invited to The Last Waltz.

great posts lately on the joy of cooking that even us males find. i third that emotion. i can be in the worst mood in the world, practically spitting fire, but get me near a fresh produce stand with a recipe in mind, and the vibe is suddenly positive

YGK: your release has booted Bryan Ferry out of the # 1 slot in my car's CD player rotation. nice stuff.

Welcome, Mr. Bunton!

You wrote:
"Does anyone know the William Burrough's CD "Dead City Radio"? Apparently, Donald Fagen provided keyboards on one of the tracks."

Yes! My friend (and fellow Danfanatic, and Beat Generation scholar) Diane/ti bon ange played that cut off that CD for me. It's extremely short--titled something like "A New Landmark in Infamy" (the word "Landmark" I know is wrong, but the word "Infamy" I'm pretty sure is right). Donald provided some incredibly creepy sound effects on synthesizer; they back Burrough's creepy voice and words perfectly.

I've heard other cuts off that CD on my favorite local way-alternative radio station, but did not know the Steely connection until Diane pointed it out to me. Gotta get that disc one of these days ...

On other topics: I'm grooving on this GB cookbook concept--we definitely have a core of StAl's Steely recipes to start with, but hey, this could go much further! I am way into gourmet cooking, though I don't do anywhere near as many culinary extravaganzas as I once did. I used to throw these amazing dinner parties back when I had an equally crazed co-conspirator to help; I also used to auction off gourmet dinners prepared in the buyer's home, as a fund-raiser for the chorus I used to sing with. It was fun, if a lot of work. I even got shanghaied into working on a fund-raiser cookbook for that chorus (it was going to be printed up in one of those 8" x 5" comb-bound formats, just like a church ladies' cookbook, only funner :-) ), but I had to bail out of that project due to time constraints. Still have those constraints, but if someone else wants to organize this puppy I'd be more than happy to contribute a buncha recipes--including my mother's recipe for classic chicken soup and my grandmother's for gefilte fish!

/the Mam'zelle
who stays in the kitchen even when it gets hot

wasn't jock ewing the patriarch on "dallas" ?

doesn't the nightfly contain references to excessive java and chesterfield kings ?

re: gate crashing.

Don't worry about it. I was personally happy to pay a higher ticket price in order to subsidize your selfishness.

Did lots of people respond to your requests for spare change?

** WELCOME JOHN BUNTON **

Lunch break!

Other bands worth mentioning: China Crisis, Peter Gabriel, old Genesis (before Abacab), 10,000 Maniacs(though someone should remind Natalie she's from the Buffalo area where the a's are as flat as the landscape there and thus lose the Brit accent-thing, and to stay away from LSD, it messes you up - some of us remember when she played weekends in Fredonia), Jonathon Edwards, Al Stewart (yes, really), XTC, The The, Lou Reed (of course).

But I'm digressing too much now.

Please remember, boys, when in Paris, don't embarress (sp check) the rest of us by acting out "The Ugly American" and performing like a bunch of frat boys on spring break in Florida (I used to date guys like that and avoid them in my circles now) - coors light? When in doubt, wear black, my dears.

I have a CD import of a live concert of Steely Dan in Los Angeles dated 1973. It is a great version of Rikki, Bod, and an improv. The sound is a little tinny, would likely make Walter cringe - but is great to have anyway.

we vowed we'd never say good-bye.

Congratulations on an excellent web site, dedicated to one of the most interesting groups of the last 30 years. Does anyone know the William Burrough's CD "Dead City Radio"? Apparently, Donald Fagen provided keyboards on one of the tracks. (I haven't seen this mentioned in lists of Steely Dan-related releases.)

** WELCOME BSMUV STAY HERE AND WE'LL MAKE YOU WISH YOU DID PAY FOR THAT CONCERT LOL **
JUST KIDDING!

HI THERE
DAVID IN THE FLORIDA ROOM
JMONEY CALLING JUJU PRINCESS YES WHERE ARE YOU?

i luv the dan . i saw em for free @chastain park this summer i crashed the gate f@#k 90$ + tix

Attesting firsthand to Aja's "magically babelicious-ness", she is DEFINITELY not a guy!

Dr. Mu: Thanks for the enjoyable foray into your name-origins. I am a huge Dr. Wu fan as well! The words, the music, the whole Gestalt. Seems we have a quorum for the Dr. Wu Appreciation Society. I live in a 'cowtown' of sorts (in Vermont) with numerous dairy cows dotting the landscape.
David: you probably already thought of this, but did you look up your pre-Dan tape on Amazon.com?
LP, Gina & Aja: I enjoyed what you said on the topic of male/female, yin/yang. I think it's neat that we don't bring all of our gender-specific baggage to the GB. Communicating as disembodied souls/intellects makes for interesting conversation... some of us express our male or female aspects more than others, either naturally or by conscious effort. It doesn't mean the differences are fading. Sounds like it can be really strange meeting each other in person though!
All: Even though I can’t respond to every post, I've been following all of your comments on Coleman, Omartian, Potter, Brubeck, 2vN & everything. Liked the "angular" comment but now I can't remember who said it. Also thanks to whoever confirmed my 6/4 guess on 2vN.

The juju didn't work, somebody else won my trip to London. And just when I was craving a danvacation, no less. Any details on the Sundance hooterie? Who's playing? I know a great Steely Dan tribute band if that hasn't been worked out yet ;-)

Dr. Mu, KD-I fractured my sacrum while running, thanks for the well wishes. My first stress fracture-I feel like a real athlete now!

Gina, Luckless Pedestrian-The Stranger thought I was a guy. I wish I had a photograph of his face when I introduced myself! Don't stay away long, Gina.

IO-where are you?

I'm way too tired to dime dance for 8 hours!

Aja

Europe is just around the corner and I'm teeming with excitment!
Craig, Steven & I are setting up shop at the nearest cafe to the concert venue that serves buffalo wings and ice cold pitchers of coors light. you know what they say about "keepin' em back on the farm after they've seen Paree!"

Looks like this Sundance thing has legs afterall. Thanks LaPage for working your Wascatch Magic. We'll be there with saucer-sized eyes, empty bellies and mucho chicanery.

JuJu Princess, where have you disappeared to? Have you decided to stay behind drinking Cuban Breezes and keeping the homefire burning while our boy returned to his urban diggs?

Ok, anyone up for my recipe for Steak Au Poivre?

J.

StevieDan- please email me with your email,snailmail , phone etc.
dmoore113@aol.com
I still find myself Pineing over a lack of Live Dan. My turn to see the Boys came and went too fast.
Still no comments on the Pre-Dan Tape I found...
I guess I brought it up while there were more Important threads going on.Timing is everything.

personally i find it intrigueing (?, this looks bad, real bad, not correct in a way)
it's not that easy to establish the gender of a soul. we think in persons, maybe, not in man-woman. and it shows that men have female sides and vice versa. yin yang.
kind of connected to what Aja mentioned. the way we imagine the souls here and how they are "in the flesh".
see how the senses we have live their own lives, right?

off for that long long long stroll home.
thanks for all kinds of nice images and thoughts, everyone.
Bye, Gina

rank and file here's some marching orders

Corspy V - glad to know that you and Major Blaise are okay
and I thought that you were saving yourself for the Colonol
Special Agent Aja is a friend, I couldn't ask that of her

Blaise - I just felt helpless without you
telepathy tommorrow perhaps?

Major/Dr MU - stupid of me not to catch your greek sign in,
Lamda Lamda Hey - wasn't that a Ramones tune?

On the issue of posters, I demand Major Mu that you issue Liz Phair Polyester Bride posters for the men's barracks and increase the salt peter rations at the same time the lady cadets get the Don Fagen in leather fare (although I've yet to see it)

wow - in diversity training I am learning just how damn boring my fellow workers are - what a revelation!

Luckless Peddy - I like your style and am keen on your insights

move em out at 13:00 hours, pronto

colonol worm tum

Wormy: try Option "m" ...at least that works on my keyboard.
I am happy to report that all of the men in our troop have been supplied with Nina Gordon posters. Drunken brawls and whoring have now been reduced by 50%.

JW: ...but Bwana, I cannot afford the accidental death and dismemberment clause offered by your Kenyan branch...

Gina: Migas are the Mexican (Tex-Mex really) version of an omlette

KD: I love TS & the Jazz Crusaders as well. Steely Dan II and Steely Dan I both work for me. I'm working on some cybernetics for Larry Carlton for the "next one." I've sampled every lick he's ever struck and a think I have the electrode impedence and electrode placement just right. However, I must report that the initial test of the Strategic Carlton Initiative was a flop, where the best we could obtain was the "Welcome to the Jungle" solo in the "rapid run" mode...will continue to fiddle with this...

Well, came into work today and saw much activity since my nighttime slaving last night.

Being a "newbie", please note I'm not taking up parking space, plenty of free parking for everyone, I even have my handicapped sign, on the dash.

This guess of women-men thing is a real jump-start to the day here- does it mean, if you can't tell, that the inner soul differences between men and women are fading?.....naah.

Wormy - on your Neil Diamond comment, please remember there is a statute of limitation on how long you can blame your parents.

The web master should put spellcheck on the message board for us mere souls that depend upon it.

X-Files are still popular becasue the copycats are inferior. Scully is good at defending the FBI way, which we all must do at times. I still think she is a great character but she does have some baggage from the affair with the married doctor, the chip in her neck and the baby thing. She needs a vacation, as in a stroll through Bath, England, and 5:00 vespers at St. Paul's in London, and a really good martini in the lobby at the Ritz. I think I could use that as well, but don't want to start a pity-aprty here. My favorite tv heroine is the press secretary on the West Wing - and I do yell at the tv when the journalist from 30-something makes a play for her- he's a loser for one, and, she can get herself in a conflict pickle if she gets involved with a journalist (nothing against them, mind you- but we must sometimes be careful).

Diversity Training - where do I begin with that noise?

I am somewhat of an artist, yes, and a writer. I write what people want to hear, but I am often the bearer of bad news.

I do enjoy a good cup of espresso, but it is hard to find.

My favorite Jackson Browne song has to be, sorry, The Pretender. I wore out my copy of the LP (no pun) many years ago. I should get the CD. Reading you all discuss him makes me nostalgic. I saw Kenny G live in concert in 1987 and was not impressed with the "show" so thereafter boycotted his work. I can only take so much. I am a big follower of Steely Dan alums as in Joe Sample (all the way back to Jazz Crusaders), Tom Scott, Larry Carlton Lee Ritenour et.al. I also am a big Brubeck fan and try to see him at least once a year. I am faithful to Neil Young and appreciate what Beck is trying to accomplish. In a more underground moment, I crank the Cure, but when I need a break from below, there is nothing like the Burt Bacharach songbook or the best of Bobby Darin. REM in its more infant years before they got a big head, still does it for me, but I smooth out the ruffles of life with a Michael Franks CD. I depart into popdom with Bare Naked Ladies (ues, I know) and They Might Be Giants, but I veer back to Dire Straits and Joe Jackson to temper that a little. Enough of a sample?

Do not fear, I do not let those that differ offend, it's all entertaining and humbling. Do not judge me based upon my friends, but rather my enemies.

Sorry about the Barbados oops.

Sue me if I play too long......

Corpsy V reporting back to duty. Hope no-one has noticed the major Blaise and I returned at the very same time. Oops.
Merely a coincidence, that's all.

New cadets we have here: Skully, Luckless Pedestrian. Hm. Skully. We need to work on that heel clicking..watch the video The Wizard of Oz, hold back any nausea and concentrate on the heel clicking there.
Luckless Pedestrian. Hm. That name's far too long, won't do for a cadet. We'll call you cadet Peddy for short.
Now, mix and mingle with the other cadets and don't feel dizzy because of all the stars and stripes you'll meet around here in the Cafe D'Escargot. Chef, what's on the menu today? Ah, Tournedot a la Dupree ..Runaway Potage and Hollow Jello ...

Colonel WT, I am ofcourse dedicated to dance your blues away, but Special Agent Aja will proceed here and do that Mata Hari impersonation only a S.A. Aja could.
Corpsy V, signing off to prepare for the sensitivity training of new cadets and guests.

Corpsy V

Clas could NEVER make it as a US Marine

Things i learned about the GB after coming back from hiatus:

- Clas finally tried a putsch to bring back the old guard from 1972.
- An early morning worm tom becomes possible, although, it seems, a sad one.
- A myriad of newbies fought for my empty parking space.
- Those you thought were women are really men and vice versa.
- Your best cyberfriend is really a knockout and you feel real humble all of a sudden.
- St-Al will wait two days after my last post before he signs in.
- Sharks are dangerous after all, no matter what that flake on the Discovery Channel thinks.
- The X-Files are still popular for some reason.
- People have sent me top ten lists via email, thinking that's how we french folks really think.
- Roy was right: there is no way in hell you can keep up with this thing.
- Sacrificing yourself will not bring Soout back.

The comic strip I mentioned is mostly about a black cop and his family as well as his older white cop partner. The strip went something like this (paraphrased as I don't have it in front of me):

(Black cop and his partner sitting in police car)

Black Cop: I just got the new Steely Dan CD

White Cop: MMMMM

Black Cop: I've really been into Steely Dan lately. Have you ever been into one type of "sound"?

White Cop: Yeah, Lately I've been into William Shatner's Priceline.com commercials.

I know the joke is a bit lame, but certainly more than a casual reference.

nope. we'll cut his hair, graffiti his paintings, lumberjack the jock out of him and ....turn him over to enlist as a marine.

Van's Philosophers Stone on the car ride in

luckless P - brubeck, lucky you, my mom listened to Neil Diamond

you got me on the Nightfly not dealing with excesses, I hadn't thought far enough into the solo albums. Glad to have you here and enjoy your insight

Skully - the only two things I watch on tv are X-files (when I'm home) and Seinfeld reruns. I may need to get cable again to get a daily X-files hook, but I see the first season is out on DVD
(I love Twilight ZOne but can't find it in sin duh kay shun)

JW - sorry to hear of your surfer friend
twinged at your calamities and felt like I rode that glorious wave with you. Hope you are feeling better and look forward to working with you on the next compilation cd

Roy - ouch, that suburban nightmare sounds a little too intense

StevenD - thanks, the blaise is gone and this new Private W is on to something. Can't wait to hear your Potter tips but don't overextend yourself on my accord

u guy (sorry I don't have that symbol on my keyboard)
enjoyed your input on Ornette Coleman - first time I heard Potter rip on TaN Coleman and Pharoah Sanders came to mind, and in a pleasant way

off to dreaded diversity training class all day - miss you

wormwood

I guess I'll try my luck again

Talk about Millenium female role models...........my vote still goes to Marge Simpson.

Still the best show on TV...

Q

It should be "exactly". Do we let him get away with that?

Not My Nancy - excactly my point.

yeah, everyone, don't watch the damn show. Next stop is any program with "Star" in the title, and you don't want that.

CEO le ASFL

KD

I don't know why Scully would be viewed as a feminist icon. She's always wrong.

"Mulder, can't you accept the possibility that the pentagram on the victim's neck was just a rash?"

Sure, she's an analytical woman...not a common Hollywood type...but she's still always wrong.

Scully & Ally McBeal: two new millenium female TV heroes who are bad at their jobs.

CHIPS!

Welcome so much. I didn't know you were a woman, pardon my ignorance.

Did I ever tell you that you have the most beautiful name? Ah! It's such a wellmannered name. Pfahh!

Are you from Paris maybe? Sorbonne? Montmartre? You're an artist right, sitting at Point Neuf painting?

Oh! It's such a romantic lifestyle!

Are you drinking your espresso (after a slow stir in it with the cucchiaino?), eating your croissant to the accompaniment of muzzette-music? Oh I can picture you, you beauty!

I can surely see that you're no rif-raf. Such style. Ah!!

And I must apologize on the behalf of my fellow constructionbuilders, garbagecollectors and steelworkers here, they're so uneducated, so untidy and rude. Sometimes I think they all suffer from knipperdollings. They need hickory oil. Ha ha!

You don't have to have patient with them, tell them to fuck off if they bother you.

So, tell me a little about yourself. For example, which is your favourite Jackson Browne song? Bruce Hornsby ditto? Kenny G?

I am DYING to hear about your music influences.

Do you visit Louvren often? Place de la Concorde? Arc de la Triumphe?

Again, I beg for forgiveness, my ignorance was a total dismaere.

Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse and I am swallowing my pride.

Sincerely yours,

Clas

**WELCOME HOME ROY. SCAM
ALTAMIRA **

DO COME BACK AGAIN PRIVATE W
DR. GREENSTREET
MARTY ESWORTHY

but what is, are migas?

if one's a gal or a guy, been off there before, haven't i?

well okay...hello miss/mrs Luckless Pedestrian, i for one like the way you barged in here LOL and you'd be perfect for the cadettery..let me see...we have the colonel WT, majors Mu and Blaise, sgt. StevieD ...special agent Aja, battleship Rumble Strip..
Corpsy V and a troup of fine cadets...

But i guess i'm on someone else's turf here ..Corpsy V..? pardonnez-moi svp.

work is real real real slow today. couldn't be slower.

saw a documentary on man-eating alligators and crocodiles yesterday. and now i read about sharks and jelly-fish ..
almost makes me vegetarian. poor cows, pigs, (don't eat pork though)chicken ... what terror they must go through ...

Dr Mu ..thanks for the recipe and i was already familiar with Ornette ..just wondered if there was a special touch to that Omlette and yes, there was.. so merci again!

allez Blaise ..we need your fire here. we have some real nice guests lately that might decide to stay under these Trees..

back to the slow game of work,
Gina

Jock Ewing, god dammit...the coolest man that ever lived. Anyone who doesn't get it dudn't know about the bidness!

Popeye? C'mon, you can do better than that!

'r maybe not.

JDub/Aja: jockboy here says take it easy until you REALLY feel like you can get back on that horse. Don't push it with sprains or stress fractures, or plantar faci. probs, otherwise they'll creep avec y'all till the grave. How'd yr respective injuries happen?

JWM: that's why pansy-boy digs the red cheeks and comfy winters that give me lots of snow and little chance to get stung by sea-dwelling creatures. As far as eating the sea creatues, damn, bring me a bottle of cheap white wine and let's get goin'...

µ: I saw Nina Gordon live when I was 13, she happened to be a part of band I really dug. Although she's from Chi, I haven't heard her new tune, which apparently is an unrepresentivive hit. Good for her, as her purse gets heavier, I'm just not interested. She's damn hot though, I'd take her to Olive Garden.

Luckless Pedestrian: What do you write? I, myself, write about tall black men.

µ: Tom Scott and the Jazz Crusaders/Crusaders are the only non BeBoppy shit I've been laying down recently; but I much prefer TvN some of the 70s stuff.

All I've been doing is laying down Steve Gadd (A, GP, etc) and other 70s faves for my friends, but the new album takes the proverbial cake.

Dr. Greenstreet: seeing as how we don't get "Easy Street" online for another couple of weeks, would you mind letting us in on the punchline.

I remember, back when I read comics (pre-end of 'Calvin and Hobbes,' 1-1-96), thinking that 'Jump Street' had so much potential; but ended up pretty lame. Then again, I haven't read the damn thing in four years. Especially, when I moved to white Cincy, it was the token African-American comic, and you knew these midwest cats didn't get it.

Who likes "Queen II?"

Morning all,

Worm...Blaise has returned, has been returned by the aliens that took him for some debating there up in cyberspace, can you believe that? No doubt he'll be around these quarters soon ..and the dogs...LOL they're visiting with their malamute friends now, they are siberian huskies, need that harshness as well ..

off for work, a 5 minute stroll. if i linger.
later,
G

RubyBABY - hey Ruby, nice to see you back. Email me when you feel for it. And as usuall, you're so right, Omartian or not Omartian - you can't go back.

Hank - thanks for the link!

JW Malibu - wow! That's what I call cool. All I have done close to surfing is; I tried to get up on a kneeboard in a Louisiana canal 1995. I tried 7 times and failed, and after that I slept for 18 hours.

Luckless - for gods sake, they are not flying to Barbados!

Listen;

"Off to Barbados just for the ride
Jock with his radar stalking the dread moray eel
At the wheel with his Eurasian bride..." (from st Als Lyrics page)

And St Alphonzo; "JOCK with his radar..."?

Jock???

It's JACK!

Jesus Christ Al, I can't run this site for you. You need to get help somewhere.

Skully - what are you saying? Ohio? Cincinnatti?? Jerry Springer???

Oh holy cowshit, you could have told me that from the beginning.

vänligen,

Rabbi Shankar

mu, that was some masterful posting there. ornette is still making some great music. prime time, his electric band is a little unruly but funky. his more recent efforts are varied, but usually cool stuff. potter vs. scott ? i'm takin' POTTER. omartian vs. ted baker ? remember that intro ? B A K E R !

luckless: quite a nice following stitch with the brubeck angle. angularity. groove. voicing. i was saying the same thing some months back. it's dead on.

st.al: as usual, we are honored and somehow reassured when your presence is felt.

[insert east coast mob sign here: three fingers sideways]

david at our florida branch office: hell yeash, i'm starting a GB section at the store. e-mo-me man.

thanx wormy and back at cha as USUAL. websters does not begin to define what you bring to the topsoil. give me a day on the potter cds, i am presently tethered by my headphones and can't get to them. i'm feeling terribly unblaised as well, but this situation finds you in excellent form, virtually covering both he & you.

i promise skully, i will never sic miniature primordial puppies on you again. you know, i never knew we had so many x-filers here either. i dropped the name awhile back and got semi-flamed.

i don't know who is performing the "EVERYBODY" function, but i like it. it's a nice touch. thanx from stevie.

x-files, ellington, AND DILBERT, all in two days ! this is not a SDGB, it's a psychic hotline ! i'm looking around for dionne warwick here...

Marlon, that giraffe took a nasty spill while racing across the Serengeti...you know, people fall too, that's why there's Mutual of Omaha!

Roy Scam: Hilarious! Marlin Perkins and Cheetah are setting up the satellite relay and sipping pina coladas while Jim Fowler pursues the herds in a camouflaged tow truck...

Today I saw a blurb about the citizens' concerns about overpopulation in northern Michigan. The solution was to inject contraceptives into all sexually active females of the Bambi persuasion. However, no one wishes to foot the $20/tail cost. It seems that our Ted Nugent is indeed slowing with age. One Against Nature...

LP: absolutely. The thing about TvN as a whole is that it in some ways draw more directly upon the jazz masters that Donald and Walter grew up listening to: Brubeck, Bird, Coltrane, Coleman, Davis, monk, etc than the 70s discography. One of the primary coherent complaints (when there have been some) about TvN is that "it sounds the same, but they used the wrong people." They prefer the LA Jazz licks of the Crusaders and Tom Scott. I contend that the music is different but with a similar sheen, and they used the right people for the style. Chris Potter is able, for example, to draw heavily from say Ornette Coleman in a way that Tom Scot did not or could not. It's not the West Coast offense anymore folks...

we've got to have some music on the new frontier.....

What about the Brubeck influence? I grew up with Brubeck playing in the house and I often hear an influence of his work in Steely Dan's tunes, in style if nothing else. Especially the title track from 2VN, right?

Sorry to interrupt the chat, just throwing that in.

Back to my writing.

Ornette Coleman

That's the other thing about this venue. Most of us (me) type too fast and are in a hurry. I do that on purpose though. Most of my professional writing is dry and is edited over at least a dozen times before c'est fini.

Gina: an Omlette is essentially a fancy scramled egg dish with some combo of cheese (mozzerella, cheddar), vegetables (tomatoes, green peppers, onions, mushrooms), and meat (ham, sausage) spiced up just right. A fine permuation are migas popular here in Texas which included a salsa-type sauce. The best migas in the world are found in Kirby Lane Cafe (we don't need no stinkin' chain) in Austin, Texas.

Ornette Colemaqn was an artist, a pioneer, a man who worked the saxaphone. He led an avant garde jazz movement circa 1960 and continued seminal recording through the 70s (he's still around I think, but I'm not familiar with his work over the last 20 years). I'm very fond of his 1959 recording "The Shape of Jazz to Come" which sounds to me like this cool blend of New Orleans blues/jazz (the slow part of the beginning of a N'awlins funeral), modal classical music, with touches of Miles Davis, Stan Kenton, Thelonius Monk. The next recording "Free Jazz" is just that: rreally radical at the time. He set up a pardigm that John Coltrane and later Miles Davis picked up as they changed the face of jazz. It's a matter of style, but I appreciate it more than love it. There are some real Ornett fans here. They can give you a much deeper perspecitve than I can. His work certainly influenced and developed the jazz sensibilities of Donald and Walter. Interestingly, the dreaded Stingster must have taken some of his style (or at least modeled it) from The Shape of Things to Come. True for the brothers Marsalis as well.

I was referring to Nina Gordon's voice - I love Lauro Nyro from child prodigy through her last album produced by Gary Katz. She died of cancer a few years ago unfortunately. Yes, StevieDan she appears to be a looker.

|||||||||||||||||: A *ahem* number of months ago, I found this venue. The most stirring song in the SD discography has always been Dr. Wu to these ears. After lurking about a day, it was clear that everyone had assumed some sort of surreal Dan character. The opposite of Big Brother where we all chose to be "locked" in a computer box with complete anonymity. Anyway, someone else had taken the name Doctor Wu.

One of the charcteristic idiosyncracies with attracted me to the music of Steely Dan, aside from the obvious (or not so obvious) major complexity and intelligence, was the ¥mu¥ chord. The had written about this chord in their usual opaque and humorous style in the Katy Lied Steely Dan songbook. This type of chord creates an neat jazzy dissonance. I remember something about the middle finger moving over to create a smaller than expected tonal space between adjacent notes. There's been some debate here about the identity and frequency of specific µ chords in specific songs. The musicians here can explain further...anyway just turned the world around: Wu->Mu. Plus I live in kinda a cow town, thus MOO --> Mu (even though the preferred pronounciation is myŸ = myoo. Also, look at all the fun words that begin with MU:

MUsic
MUsician
MUcus
Muenster
MUselage
MUstard
MUtter
MUndane
You get the picture...

Whenever I get back to coastal North Carolina, I've always avoided those tourist traps by Calabash, etc. and find the dive seafood restaurants...the crappier the building, the better the fare. Even in this cowtown, the good local barbeque and steak places get passed over for the freakin' Outback Steakhouse!! No one can cook a brisket like they can here (Stubbs in Austin for example), so why let a D college student cook a fake Australian recipe for ya? jeeezz...

Wormy - I miss NO food, but good thing for my waistline. I did learn to cook the basic etouffees, gumbos, jambalayas, piquantes, creoles. But it takes so long and it's too damn hot here most of the time. I do get that pot cranked up in the winter - hooo boy!

Aja: It can be chaos here, and personalities morph. DrMu can be me or my alter ego. Without the head-to-head cues such as tone, emphasis, body languange, as well as tactile and smell - communication is obviously not the same. With the anaonymity and some semblence of a general topic, it's a free for all discussion. I handle visual lingual chaos much, much better than aural. I could hardly stand a loud bar: "What? No, I said beautiful EYES, not THIGHS..." A stress fracture you say? Metatarsal? Distal tibia? Not the female athlete triad I hope? e me if you want to.

JWMalibu~ Not wanting to be outdone by your impressive trail of experiences, I feel compelled to report that much of my early years was spent near some varied and fascinating wildlife forms. I have, among other things: Been pursued by leather clad, blade bearing greasers and heard, at close range, their carnivorous hunting cry, "You're dead, Motherfucker!" -- Tred through the regions of the now extinct Griffith Stadium without cage, gun, or disguise. -- Pierced my flesh with exotic multi-colored urban gravels while attempting to shoot a 360 parking ramp curl at high speed on a thick tired Schwinn. -- Observed the seldom seen procreation ritual of the newspaper-napped downtown porno theater derelict. -- Hitched the bumper of a galloping bread truck on bicycle. -- and been captured by Chevys full of Nomadic rednecks and pummeled by their dorsal fists.
But it was all worthwhile on those occasions when I was able to execute a high-fence yard traversal through a two-doberman hostile dwelling while eluding the pursuit of a Copus Corpulentus (portly policeman); and then to bogart a Raliegh while watching the sun rise through the pollution trail of a DC smokestack. Nature is beautiful.

RS

Steely Dan and their fans must be Dilbert fans as well, given our love for the inane, and since lists appear to be big with this (tough) crowd, I'll add a list taken from Dilbert:

Use tact, poise and reason.....

Top 15 Tasks You're Working on But Don't Know Why

1.
Alphabetizing files for disposal.
- Kevbert
2.
Writing procedures for container use for containers that we don't have.
- LJ-bert
3.
Reformatting all corporate technical documents to match the "look and feel"
of the latest marketing materials. This includes five-year-old tech bulletins
and obsolete white papers that haven't been accessed or updated for four
years...
- Doctorbert
4.
Trying to fax important information to the group across the hallway.
- PAUL-BERT .. H.
5.
Flying from the Midwest to the East Coast to do the same type of work that
other people are flying from the East Coast to the Midwest to work on.
- Frequent Flyer Points!
6.
Evaluating a program when the boss has already decided to buy it and won't
listen to any of the points about it.
- waste-of-time-bert
7.
Estimates - *any* estimates. The end date is already decided, they just
haven't told you.
- don't ask
8.
Shortly after announcing that we would be spending fewer payroll hours on
unnecessary tasks, the company demanded that we replace all the shelf
labels in the store with new ones. The only difference was that the new ones
were yellow, not white.
- Employed by chimpanzees bert
9.
Dumping miles and miles of unlabeled and unidentified 9-track tape to
CD-ROM for "archival purposes" of systems that were decommissioned
and sold in 1981.
- Chuck
10.
Performance appraisals for five employees who've been pink-slipped
because their jobs were outsourced.
- HR Dogboy
11.
We keep ripping down cubes and rebuilding them. As soon as I get done
with the whole thing, they re-organize and we start over again.
- never-ending loop.job-security?!

12.
Anything with "quality" in its name.
- Student # 655081
13.
A study of the market value of this location's real estate?
- time to update resume - bert
14.
Explaining to my manager what I do everyday. (He's the fourth boss in two
years.)
- Mistress of Idiotic Processes
15.
A company Intranet for people who can't operate browsers.
- Intractabert

A song with no excesses, hmmm....well, The Nightfly might approach that; however the 50's were a little excessive and definitely overrated. You may have me there.

Left the design profession for an allied one for many reasons, one if which is because there is no more blue print blue. These things happen.

I am jealous of the discussion of surf, since the northeast is not having a stellar summer of frolicking.....but discuss away, I'll listen.

Working on a deadline this evening I can't possibly make but will anyway, so will check in throughout the evening.

respect the seven second delay.....

Q - Ooh, that picture of Donald is...well, breathtaking, to say the least. I'm going to have to fan myself a bit to cool down after seeing it! Thanks for making it available to us avid Donald fans.

hey rock on, brothas!
I'm still doin' my performance art thang--
"thinking of ng," been goin' on for three
years. (whew!) hard work! got to go till
2003! a rilly true epic!
allright! keep on keepin' on!
The cool tumescent sea is the mother of all
adventures and the roll of the waves sings
and soothes, nay, sears my evergreen heart.
ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!NG LIVES!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who reads the newspaper comics should check out the Monday "Jump Start" strip if you get it in your paper. More than a casual SD reference. Their popularity must be peaking.

"Baby sea lion...goes 'ooorrrkk'"

How cool!! And to think I get a kick out of when the goldfinches in my feeder go "beeeeeeEEEEEE!"

Breaking bones: Slipped on some ice in my driveway a couple years ago and snapped both bones in my lower leg. IN A HEARTBEAT. Still have 9 pins and 2 plates...

Lotsa hungry people on the GB lately. Maybe this will help cure the jones...

www.ultranet.com/~eddcote/grncur.htm

Tom ~ Yes, I've had three encounters with sharks in 35+ years of surfing, but none of them great whites (You've never seem someone paddle to shore quite so fast!). Did lose a friend to a tiger shark, though...

On the other hand, I've stepped on (and been stung by) stingrays, belly-flopped onto a jellyfish (slept on my back for a week), got staph infections from coral cuts, and have had to dig sea urchin spines out of my feet. Those painful incidents have all compensated by: surfing on the same wave as a dolphin, having a baby sea lion crawl onto the front of my board and go "orkkkk" and paddling within 10 feet of kelp beds teeming with once "almost-extinct" sea otters...

wt, hope the Red One shows up soon
sounds like you miss him terribly :(
sorry we can't be Blaise 4 U
we'll turn on the blazerbeacon and send out Danvibes on all frequencies

wormdefinitions first post #2 Gollum and the Ring
second post #3 minor cord

used to be a victim, now I'm not the only one

Luckless Pedestrian - a warm wormy welcome aboard-
my dad's an architect, reason I didn't follow - drafting classes, now it's all on the computer

JW - reefer madness, so ever see the sharks when you're out there? I have the pads, I'm more dangered from sweat and restraint on the legs and elbows. The wrists are indeed a chord changing wonder to protect, I have to wear heavy duty forearm guards to bed each night for the carpel le tunnel and swollen forearms - it is getting a little better and so far no knife - helmet is now a must after the severe concussion but bites on the dating end

StevieDan - Potter albums???

name a dan song that isn't about excesses? go on, I dare you

underpadded wormbrain

to stand beneath the stary sky with one hand waving free

I'm with JWMalibu-always better to err on the side of caution 'cause while the 30's don't feel so old it certainly bites you in the @$$ when the bones crack unexpectedly!

Aja

Wormbie ~ No, I don't wear a lifejacket when surfing, considering the average water depth for breaking surf is about 9 feet. I'm FAR more worried about a) the hard fiberglass board (mine...or someone else's) smacking me in the head (been there, done that), b) a razor-sharp fin slicing my belly open, or c) getting slammed into submerged rocks (also been there, done that) or needle-sharp coral reefs...not to mention great whites & other denizens of the deep. That said, even after having been skateboarding since before you were born, I still ALWAYS wear wrist braces when I'm skateboarding on the sidewalk/street (broken wrists put a damper on playing music) and wrist/knee/elbow/helmet when skateboarding halfpipes/pools. I've fallen (and injured myself) enough times to know: it's not IF you're going to fall, it's WHEN...err on the side of caution, and at least get some knees pads and wrist braces ~ you won't regret it, bro...especially after those bones start getting brittle.

Greetings to new friends -

"hey" is a wonderful, casual term as an entrance, where I come from, so no implosion planned (though they can be very cool) - got a lot going on in my life - first time in chat-land too, it's a very odd planet for me - I need to know the language - I write as I speak, which obviously may not be the way here

don't need the cab anymore - love them til they run for cover....

actually my MO is very passive and laid back, so it's intriguing the first impression I have created otherwise - the most intriguing impression is you think I am male, of which I am cetainly not - happily female actually

blue print blue - any design professionals like me old enough that actually know what that is?

check in later, got to go get the kids (oops, too much information, right?).......

Private W - who put you up to this? Cute Corpsy V?
my characteristics now so obvious, I slither at the mere mention in shame, how can I ever show my face here again?

Gina - I need a good Rouging, and Luckless P or anyone else can call me whatever they damn want to, even what I just typed on the last post, so calmly call off the dogs there

JW - thanks for the tip, but do you wear a lifevest surfing?
I only fall about 3 times a year and I log about 10 miles a day
so a little hamburger is tolerable

CaraMia has not come up for air yet this afternoon
Dollygra Viawood

wormy

the kid will live and learn

(Last one before giving this armada some peace of mind)

St Al ..thank you, will send in the recipe for a "Roller Skater" ...LOL, have no clue yet what it'll be, but something to fit the skate, right?
Food ..thanks Edd, for bringing that into this kitchen!

And Luckless P, mind your manners, "hey wormhead" is not the way to address Our Wormyness lol ...that cab did hit you, right?
you are eager. restless. like ready to implode.
should we take cover?
every male newbie has to make a parody to his favorite Dansong. so, give it your best shot, that goes for you too, Chips..give it your best (mug)shot!
Find them lyrics and stir it up ...

The jurymembers will present themselves once you've cooked these parodical meals. Kitchenez-vous, luckless P. and Chips.....

goodnight all,
Gina
(ps saying a prayer for that atheist upthere, Worm.)

Wormbie ~ Invest in some pads, before you cut your inline career short...

websters continues

worm (verb) to move or proceed sinously or insidiously: 1) to free (as a dog) from worms, 2)a: to cause to move or proceed in or as if in the manner of a worm, b to insinuate or introduce oneself by devious or subtle means, c) to proceed or make one's way insidously or deviously 3) to wind rope or yarn spirally round and between the strands of a cable or rope before serving, 4) to obtain or extract by artful or insidous questioning or pleading, asking or persuading

revealing isn't it?

hey wormy
I think that Webster had it right

Worm (noun) 1) an annelid worm, any of numerous relatively small elongated usually naked and soft-bodied animals: as (a) insect larva, esp. one that is a destructive grub, catepillar, or maggot, (b) shipworm, (c) blindworm, (d) earthworm, 2a) a human being who is the object of contempt, loathing or pity: wretch, b) something that torments or devours from within. 3) Archaic: snake, serpent 4) something (as a mechanical device) spiral or vermiculate in form or appearance: as a: the thread of a screw, b) a short revolving screw whose threads gear with the teeth of a worm wheel or a rack, c) a spiral condensing tube used in distilling

the verb usage is even more entertaining

Hey wormhead,

you are right about the excesses of SD songs; however, most of the excesses are about scurvy and unsavory characters (the best kind), whereas the three songs mentioned are more situational which caused me pause at the Massachusetts show last month (a wonderful night I'll add).

But I'm growing tired (finally, I'm sure) of analyzing what appears to be the obvious when I am sure there are far mosre interesting topics out there.

the ditch out in the back they're digging just for me....

Guestbook Cookbook? Damn fine idea....

http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo

Click on the link that says "Steely Dan Cookbook." It was a good idea 3 years ago and it still is. Send me your favorite and I'll add it. Edd, I think you'll appreciate my personal Red Gravy recipe.

Clas: I've got something you can sail up your waterway...

StAl

Ruby is back, well hello, Mela Culpa

Gina - still aboard and no sign of...
I know your used to 10 or more... sorry we only have 6
I'm dead dead dead without Blaise inn spire aye shun

Skully - funny how you brush off Clas and Sir StevenDan
SD is one of the warmest people you will meet here, and a real amazing aficionado in everything music. The East Coast Dan gals have always said very nice things about Clas

Luckless Pedestrian - interesting 3 song tie
but sit back and look
"every" dan song is about "excesses"

Ed- your cooking posts went to my stomach, I had to try out the new thai place across the street today for lunch

serious 'twig' blade wipeout yesterday
hamburger knee arm and palm
glad I have good balance or it would have been alot worse

wormy

caught in my reservation

Dr Wu, the omlette coleman ..................................................?
please elaborate.

btw St.Al has a cookery corner under these trees somewhere.
almost forgot.
off again,
G

** WELCOME BACK RUBY BABY**

WELCOME CHIPS & LUCKLESS PEDDY

you do your nine to five, make it home half alive....

Glamour Profession - a song about excesses (but really fun ones) - fly to Barbados just for the ride (best line)

The Royal Scam - a song about excesses that hurt

Black Friday - when excesses get the better of us and we get out

Turn that be-bop down, I can't hear my heart beat.....

So it's the SciFi season coming...i don't know if New Orleans is still aboard here, i log off and then on again, what can i say???

these Top Ten Reasons confuse me now.
it takes a connaisseur, really. hm.

Chips .....fill that mug with cinnamon scented coffee, you know it's meant to be used without a saucer?
in case you're running on that SciFi adrenaline as well...
what's your Reel Steeled angle?

i see that phonebooth and dr. Who dot
Rumblestrip wants to know about the dr.Mu dot
Clas, yes, he can be a very dotty character.

trouver le temps perdu dans le Cafe D'Escargot
chanter avec esprit sans connaisser les mots
c'est gris et verte mais jaune et rouge aussi
le chat noir et le chien blanc
danser comme joie de vivre

Oleander. Forgot to mention her. Skully .....

if i wasn't into another line of business and work, even when almost in between jobs, i wouldn't hesitate to start up a real Cafe D'Escargot ...why do i see a Horus and Isis character appear?
real twilight zone atmosphere. am not even making sense to myself now. it's like a mercury and gemini deja vu.

agents of the lawless.
tell me everything you did.
but no eagles.
no offense.

bye, G

Number one X-File/Dan link:

William Gibson--wrote the script for the finest X-Files episode yet, is a known DanFan/Dan quoter in his novels.

See

http://www.steelydan.com/2vngibson.html

oh ye of little wanting to believe.

StevieDan-Am I too late to have a few copies of my "Clockdrive World" CD in your Store? And by the way ,Let's all get behind our GB artists and show some support. Malcom's Wunderground is better than most of the Music pushed on us by the Biggies.It ain't that hard to write a check and get some Enjoyment! David

Had to take a steely break, that includes all sd web sites. However, crisis always brings me back.

I escaped under the headphones and just wrote like there's no tomorrow. (I've been doing poetry lately.) I hooked into disk 3 of citizen - it has part of Kayt Lied, all of Royal Scam and part of Aja. It covers a large range for my emotional needs when the world lets me down.

Clas: I think you're right. I miss the unmistakeable frequency of Michael Omartian. He's changed a bit though - even if he came back, it wouldn't be the same. Change is so steady, even when we're standing still, the ground is moving beneath us...

luckless P: I was wondering what the connection was between those 3 songs. Ok, I lurked a time or two. I'll have to really think about the lyrics to totally get it. Or you could explain a bit more - I feel like we're coming to the top of the roller coaster hill in this country, in this world...

rb

ten reasons your mugshots will never disappear

12) they found you with the working girls in the county jail
11) it was a crying disgrace, they saw your face
10) once a day glow freak always a day glow freak
9) good thing it's not a blood test - kinky paternal one
8) it may be a hip joint but it's not the hipjoiner
7) only negative girls spin out of the frame

why

Hello again

didn't know there were so many x-filers here, that's a good sign

not that it was a total cold welcome, I just did not enjoy the post from Mr Clas. StevenDan, my apologies - but I think you read my disdain for only Jackson Browne as hating Jackson Browne. Shall we start again? I don't want to offend a GB heavy right off the back

Gina, I was in my teens when Katy Lied came out. A boyfriend back then told me I had to hear Dr Wu. The song was so deep and so moving, and we were more than embracing at the moment. It didn't take long to be completely immersed.

I saw the Detroit show this year - very nice, couldn't find anyone to go so I made the trip up there by myself. It was even better than the 96 show

sorry, far too much information

skully

Whups, meant to split up that last post.
Today dropped off clothes at Salvation Army, found a Stevie Ray Vaughan cassette for 50 cents. Sometimes it’s good to get back to basic blues. A few wks ago I found a Steve Reich tape for a dollar. Odd music but a pleasant change of pace.
Never been an X-files fan but have been called a die hard Trekkie. The original series will always be #1 in my book, but I have enjoyed all the spinoffs as well.

do i or don't i detect the hip joiner joining again?
is it pinch or punch or even worse?
was it a lurking retraite or a minor setback?
what do you know of that backyard?
is it true never to mix sweet with salt?
should there be a dandance of rejoice?
are the youngsters really that old?
can the babylonic thread be just this one?
with or without shoes?
did the bundy gang live nextdoor to you?
wasn't it chilly on the porch?
did you really smoke that last cigarette?

Skully- What Gina's trying to say is that Clas is a complete moron!

top ten reasons that Steely Dan is an X-File Project

13) the Burroughs reference is a decoy, who would ever name a band after something battery operated?
12) throw back the little ones and pan fry the big ones is secret code for project prioritization
11) Mulner wears boxers not briefs and resists all temptation towards rollerskaters
10) X-files - gorgeous red haired accomplice
Steely Dan tour 00 - gorgeous red haired accomplice
something in a color and I don't ever do red, honest
9) as if the countdown to ectasy cover wasn't enough?
8) Lonnie was the kingpin indeed
7) the three computer geeks cracked the worm grammatical code in less than 2 hours (insider job)
6) the Royal Scam cover is a paranormal vision of the real conspiracy in actual motion
5) that's a much younger "cigarette man" on the bench with the hole in his shoe
4) "Up on the Hill they think I'm Okay"
yet more evidence of delusions of granduer and paranoia
3) the Lynx actually sends messages up to the mothership
2) it's all in Becker's old backyard, honest
1) Molner's dad listened to Monk, Mingus and Bird

I'm new to this place,

make my mug shots disappear?

Robin-good observations! It was interesting to meet everyone at the Danfests-some people were so different than their cyber personas while others were very consistent. You can't help but build a mental image of people here, and I found that mine were usually very different from the actual person. The tone of someone's voice and their inflections also doesn't show up here. It's easy to lose one's inhibitions with the anonymity of this format, and it seems to bring out extremes-flirtatious in some, hostility in others. Having a glass of wine and chatting with the danfriends-I love it! That's what I like best about this place-just checking in and seeing what all the diverse individuals are up to.

Mr. LaPage-yes, the castaway is back and in his usual form (how does he manage to get any work done?). I am very, very up for a mountain getaway-keep me posted on dates. I'll bring some Pacific ocean sand for you to sink your toes into.

Back to grinding through the my day gig.

Aja

Loved the NPR interview - it was perfect for them to go on there! I thought they got a kick out of it myself.

That luckless pedestrian......

Skully...Clas does that routine on every female newbee, the little story about what a beautiful name LOL i think it's very funny, but can imagine you wouldn't..even StevieDan's not a bad chihuahua, ????, hey, not that i know them that well, but it's a warm welcome they gave you, really!!!

And no, no, no ..now you've come out of the lurking game, you got to tell it what it is that made you fall for that Dansound ...ever been to any concert of them? recently? anyone near that has the same Danmentality you have?

You see, fellow X-filed GB-ers are coming out of their closets as well..

May i remind you we have a weekly meeting at the Cafe D'Escargot, you can sign in as a cadet. but let me warn you in advance, Skully ...we don't believe in sexual harassment of any kind and take no prisoners..and we also mix & mingle or get blended at times. it's a heat you will learn to take, or like for that matter.

And Hutch, you must meet Hutch ...

Going back to my french fries, poutine-style.
Darn, WormsyTom, i miss that quebeccian fire in here.
En suivant ...

Now..who's to follow Skully?
And what about that other young young Danfan, you know, the one that made KD run to the gym?

Regards, Gina

Thanks for the clarification, Corpsy V. I am honored.
While we’re on the subject of names, what is the origin of Dr. Mu?
I still visit the archives once in a while. Yesterday delved into March ’99 and found Clas’ plea for THREE (3) dots! :) Got a kick out of whoever posted the next message (all dots). That, plus some Yürg Touique fellow had me ROFL (perhaps that was not his intent?)
OK, here’s the Dan-related part of the post: Did anyone else listen to that audio clip of Linda Wurtheimer on NPR interviewing W&D back in Feb.? I thought it was kind of surreal to hear them on NPR.
(http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnps05fm.cfm?SegID=70713)
Cool word of the week goes to Wormy: ‘lagniappe’.

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skully, please do not put me on the "other side" of the coin. that would make me a tail. that WAS a sincere welcome, anyone who digs the files is awlreet with me and anything played too often becomes mundane. i was just funnin' with you. please forgive me. i didn't think primeval chihuahua sounded too threatening. then again, when i really visualize it, it's at least frighteningly irritating.

Hey Charlie, are you saying I'm paranoid? I just thought it was a "statement" they were making about what's happening out there with their set choice(s). What's incredible is the stories of those songs are so timeless.

And on the X-files statments, is anyone else a little perturbed at the obvious set change since they moved the "on-locations" area to sunny Southern California. As a depressed and repressed northern states resident, I loved the ambiance of the former dark and dreary Canadian sets. Getting a little too campy now, but I still am a loyal fan and do not aswer the phone when it's on.

Anyone for the West Wing, or is it too contrived for this group?

A fan of the dan since "do it again" - not to date myself.

ride a cab on me.....

thanks for the nice welcome aboard - Gina, WormTom (where did you get this name), Robin
then there is the other side of the coin

StevenDan - I didn't say I hated Jackson Browne
I said that my ex boyfriend played it at the exclusion of everything else

I do like the X-files - where else can a women be found intelligent without having to lay out cleavage for ratings

Clas - yes I'm all women, no, I'm not impressed by your cyber advances, sorry, don't go there

I live in Northern Ohio near Toledo, caught on to Steely Dan about the time of Katy Lied, hooked ever since

perhaps I should just continue to lurk in this domain

Skully

For the Joni Mitchell fans on this GB:

http://www.nytimes.com/library/arts/082200joni-mitchell-art.html

Interesting quote: "'I sing my sorrow,' she likes to say, 'and I paint my joy.'"

Mr Lapage Missed your wit the last few days
good to hear your enjoying yourself
- damn - residence in Sundance and parents place in Carmel. Glad to hear, couldn't happen to a better guy. I always loved Point Lobos and the whale watching in January was spectacular, Big Sur and Monterey Bay beckon as well

Gina - glad to hear you still will be with us
I guess I jinxed it when I asked in response whether a morning Blaise was possible - send in the mounties this is an emergency the GB needs desperately

Corpsy V - hope your enjoying that extended leave I gave you,
well deserved I might add

CaraMia - better catch your breath with that viagra
glad you didn't have to sit through Bruce this weekend

I love the extended slow part in Boston Rag, a few extra bars of piano right before the meltdown guitar part at the break - adds to the tension of a song that deliberately plays out too slow

wormy

you were lady bassline, there was nothing that I could do

You forgot "Rock Cornelius Game Hens"...

10) Beignet Goodman
9) Branford Marsala
8) Poulet Desmond
7) Bob Sheppard's Pie
6) Red Garnish
5) Michael Franks
4) Jellyroll Morton
3) Steak Kenton
2) Omlette Coleman
1) Duke Wellington

What a tremendously hectic couple of days. My wife and I went to Los Angeles for some 'festival' business and ran up to her folks place in Carmel for a family gathering. I realize i miss the ocean being secluded so far in the mountains but i'm not complaining. Sundance has its special qualities also.

Edd your food post was really outstanding and I second the suggestion for a GB cookbook. Hell, I'll even volunteer to coordinate! God...eating is my?.....second favorite thing!

Welcome aboard all newcomers. You'lll find us a warm eclectic bunch once you get to know us.

Aja, are you still there? Any word from the balmy Island castaway yet?

Cara Mia, don't give up hope! Drop me a line and I'll elicit the help of a few choice friends and we'll give you a foolproof plan in 'How to seduce anyone, anywhere, at anytime!'(or your money back.)

Hey Tom; are you saying the Brennan family has sumthin' on the Red Lobsters of this world?

Listening to Miles Davis, Pat Methany and Style Council. Have not listened to 2vN for awhile. Pehaps I'll give it a once-over today.

Craig

Hello Worm, wondered about that foodchain Edd continued...have just stalked Blaises e-dress, he's not (giving) home..what do you think? someone paid him to shut up? he's posting his Top Ten Dozens somewhere else? Took it on tour? Abducted by aliens?

hey..did i say i was leaving? maybe i won't be around as frequent a poster, but i've grown accustomed to these shapes and souls ...the library's just a few steps away from where i live, so ....

and they will re-install my old telephoneline, so ....

have to shed some on the Steely Ahoy light ..and read about the other european concerts.
maybe i can keep all of this until the end of the month.
officially on "leave", every way of this word.

hm. how do you like my new e-gown then?

Robin! nice, that charmed one ..real nice!
Enjoy your day avec la jeune fille.

Bye for now,
Gina

Ed - that story on Olive Garden was too funny. Yes indeed primo mundano Americana will go for bland with no surprises nearly every time. Here in New Orleans we have so many great dives not to mention 5 star elegance that mediocre doesn't cut it. Many people here are like shepp to poor pasture, but many more appreciate food, lookout waistline. We still have some of the chains, funny but people used to see the national Red Lobster adds on tv with no local restuarant and ask why there wasn't one here. Now we have it...ha ha ha

StevieDan - simulEllington, neat. Today I'll start out with a little Lester Young and Miles' Birth of Cool

Robin - thanks for the encouragement

Gina - we will miss you, sorry I'm skipping desert

was skimming through my Jazz Musichound book and noticed that Chris Potter has about 5 albums out, three of which got coveted 5 star ratings. The only misgivings I had of the 00 tour were missing his Ornette Coleman meets Pharoah Sanders hellbent runaway solos. Any suggestions from those in the know of the best Potter to start out with?

wormt

well he looked so fine upon that hill

re: Applebees

Related story - not long ago I made my living by providing tech support to computer trade shows. As a result I spent a LOT of time travelling and eating in restaurants.

One night, in NYC of all places, the tech crew was trying to decide where to eat. Everyone agreed Italian would be acceptable and, gheesh, since we're in New York how hard can it be to get a great Italian meal in a little restaurant? Grab a cab to the "Little Italy" section, wander in to the first place that strikes your fancy, and take your chances, right?

Wrong.

Over half the crew thought the Olive Garden in Times Square was a good choice!

I refused to eat there, and headed south with 3 friends. While the pedestrians were enjoying all the salad and breadsticks they could eat, we had FOOD. Cooked by someone who cared. Good enough that we sent an unfinished bottle of chianti back to the cook. The owner, in turn, treated us all to Sambuca with coffee beans.

...and yet the public will choose McMeatballs almost every time.

Music, food, whatever. The general population in this country wouldn't know good if it bit 'em on the ass.

SKULLY!

Welcome so much. I didn't know you were a woman, pardon my ignorance.

Did I ever tell you that you have the most beautiful name? Ah! It's such a wellmannered name. Pfahh! Are you from Paris maybe? Sorbonne? Do you hear those muzettes in the morning, drinking your espresso, eating your flaemingou?

I can surely see that you're no rif-raf. Such style. Ah!!

And I must apologize on the behalf of my fellow farmers and steelworkers here, they're so uneducated, so untidy and rude. Sometimes I think they all suffer from inguinal hernia, ha ha!

Please have patient with them, you must promise me that. They will all squeak by. Eventually.

So, tell me a little about yourself. For example, which is your favourite Jackson Browne song? Bruce Hornsby ditto? Steely Dan?

I am DYING to hear about your music de la croix.

Again, I beg for forgiveness, my ignorance was a total dismaere.

Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse and I am swallowing the anchor.

Sincerely yours,

Clas

The Americans are waking up--well, literally if not metaphorically anyway.

Gina, I think we are definitely on the same wavelength and I like your Jekyll & Hyde comparison. You nailed it! It does not surprise me that you have been a writer. You do it well, and I hope it serves you well in the future. Written communication is a challenge for most people, it seems. You are among the elite, as are many who inhabit this forum, blessedly.

Time to get ready for my day at work. Later, I get to surprise my daughter and take her to the Nickelodeon Music & More Festival. Well, that will certainly be in great contrast to the Dan. It may not be my first choice in music but it could be worse, and more importantly, it's good to get to do things together. Hope the rain holds off.

Have a charmed day all,

Robin

y e s G i n a, I smell BLOOD!

AHHHHHHHHHRG!!!!

yes, why not, Clas ... probably just a slip of the lefthand there..
right?

you smell blood, don't you?
wanna lynch him or have him for lunch?

imagine, most of our american friends are sound asleep now.
so let's keep our voices down, okay?

G