Name: Mr. Stewart
rmech@alaska.net
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 at 21:25:23
Comments:
Neil Diamond tickets are going for $120.00 a piece here in Anchorage...s'how hard up we are.
Mr.Stewart
Name: DrMu
not your Uncle Walter
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 at 19:18:10
Comments:
Another, OL: What's got you all hot under the collar? Is it because BFF has put out 3 studio albums since AiA was released? Is it because their most recent release which came out Tuesday was recorded from Nov. '98 to Jan '99 and released 3 months following completion? Is it because Ben F. can pound the piano with passion without giving up technique? Oh, sure you could go back a few days and answer my DAN-related queries...but why do that when ya can whine about a talented group that's almost as subsversive in its own way as the Dan?
StAl: Are you assuming what we are or do you know something concrete?...fess up.
Countdown to ecstacy - 11 days.
'Festers: Get a laptop and meet me in the chatroom
Name: Philip Fowler
FowlerUSMC@yahoo.com
Location: Indianapolis, IN USA
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 at 18:14:23
Comments:
I saw the Finest musicians to ever perform at the Sandstone Amphitheatre in KCMO after a 24-year wait! Donald & Walter you guys inspire me! Thanks for all the great music! I have every one of the 45's, and the vinyl LP's, and the CD's (multiple copies of "Countdown to Ecstacy"--my personal favorite), and Walter's "Tracks Of Whack", and Donald's two solo masterpieces, and Brian Sweet's book ("Reelin' In The Years"---not enough photos, though), and I bought every version of the Steely Dan t-shirts at the August 6th concert (including both types of caps!). Wished you guys woulda played "King of the World". I hope I don't have to wait another 24 years! Heck, I did a whole 20 in the Marine Corps between the time I first heard "Do It Again" in December 1972 and the '96 Art Crimes show in KC! Steely Dan remains the FINEST group of musicians that ever graced the American music scene (I know it sounds cliche, but praise usually is...)
Semper Fi......
Name: ed beatty
edbeatty@pe.net
Location: Temecula, ca
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 at 17:41:39
Comments:
STAL
"Had toured this year"?
Name: AnotherVote
@c'mon.com
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 at 15:20:40
Comments:
BAN BEN FOLDS FIVE ON THE STEELY DAN GUESTBOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Name: Original Lester
Hey Monkey, where you been?
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 22:47:24
Comments:
Steely Dan rules and Ben Folds Five bites.
Name: RubyBaby
@ll dressed up & nowhere2go
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 22:19:01
Comments:
Lisa&Samantha: I suppose you two are soaking up all the Clas vibes. Try to leave something for me. I may someday get to bask in his sunshine. Or, you could BEAM ME OVER THERE NOW! You didn't forget your tri-corders did you?Clas: Something tells me you're in good hands. But go easy on them, lisa and samantha will never be the same. American guys will hardly stand a chance anymore.
That's probably why they detained you in Kentucky, right?rb
Name: DrMu
wah wah
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 21:46:16
Comments:
Happy birthday Sir Duke, born 100 years ago today! toodles!
Name: StAl
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 19:58:45
Comments:
I hope everyone is having fun down n'awlins way. Christ I wish I was there right now. Someone should hand Clas a laptop. It just isn't the same around here without him posting every FREAKIN' day.
Damn, has everyone noticed the outrageous prices of concert tickets this summer? I've plopped down close to 500 clams (with all of Ticketbastard's fees) for 2x Dave Matthews, 2x Allman Bros and 3x Lyle Lovett. God help me if Steely Dan had toured this year. I'd need a second job.
StAl
Name: Strangers
@home
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 19:48:56
Comments:
Everyone email James - he's lost his mind and needs help.
Yo,wah - boo- hoo
No more Ben Folds - this is Steely Dan, thankyou !
Name: James Bagot
jimbob_62_99@yahoo.com
Location: Ventura, Ca USA
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 19:40:00
Comments:
Finally Found your web site!
Just like to say that I have been a HUGE FAN for years.
Please keep on JAMIN' your music touches many, and it is great music to make sweet love down by the fire by. I have all your albums and fond memories of many romantic nights .
Hope there is a tour soon, oh yeah, HURRY UP WITH THE NEW CD.
MY love life is sucking BAD!
TAKE CARE,
JIM B.
Name: wah
hoo
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 16:01:11
Comments:
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Would you like to see Cream reunite? Clapton's manager is the one who is holding things up. contact him
Roger Forrester, at:
77 Harley House
Marylebone Road
London W1
Tel: 011 44 171 486 8056
Fax: 011 44 171 487 5663
Name: Hardly
wortheimer
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 11:45:28
Comments:
That'd be the East Bank in St. Louis. Yeah, that's what I meant.the East Bank of the Mississippi. Yeah. You guys have fun in Alabama.
gone fishin.
Name: N'O Go
scene@hirt
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 11:34:48
Comments:
east bank toodle oo, al.
Name: fezo
usedtohaveascenewithhim
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 05:54:33
Comments:
great disc to start the day with: Dire Strait's "Making Movies". you know it's a great album when the title cut is one of the weaker tunes
great way to lose your job: lose yourself in music at home for an hour, arrive for work forty-five minutes late with your boss sitting in your office tapping her watch
would you like fries with that? (practicing for my next job)
Name: Schwinn
toro, toro taxi
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 01:07:24
Comments:
Roy
Alas, that perpetual menace, Hardgroove, has completely stuffed the big bike's exhaust pipes with spuds and filled the gas tank with the contents of 323 Pixie Sticks. The downside: No frivolity in N'Oleans. Not even a zombie inhalation unit shipped priority. The upside: I've got more baked potatos than Wendys.
Side-Mirror Mounted to a Spin-Pop,SEMB
Name: DrMu
This just eat-en
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 22:57:27
Comments:
In a shocking development, because of a diet (how did this happen?) and a mutant gene for high HDL and low LDL levels, Paul Prudhomme is STILL ALIVE!. Danfesters - roll or slide your way to:
K-Paul's Louisiana Kitchen
French Quarter. 416 Chartres. 524-7394. L D Mon-Sat. AE V MC/$$$for shrimp creole, crawfish, stuffed/blackened anything
Name: DrMu
man of la mangez
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 22:42:47
Comments:
Ole: Pascal's Manalle is one of those Italian-Creole fare establishments (see site below). The phone # you listed is correct. If you like the BBQ shrimp and other stuffed stuff - when you're in the Quater, a I-C restaurant named Bacco's, run by the Brennan family, is also excellent...and Copeland's down the block for Psacal's is a great cajum value. If you haven't gained 5-10 lbs, the trip is unsuccessful. The only chance is to sing the complete Dan hymnal. Increasing evidence suggests that respiratory muscles can consume far more oxygen/energy that originally thought.
http://www.neworleans.net/fdpages/pascalsmanalerev.html
Chimp: Frankly, I thought BFF kicked ass tonight
Name: one more chimp
yeah baby
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 22:31:36
Comments:
Roy Scam,
Ben Folds Five and Steely Dan should NEVER I mean NEVER be mentioned in the same sentence again!
Name: oleander
see how they roll
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 22:00:01
Comments:
Au revoir les enfants!
You might try this. I probably have the spelling wrong--it might be Pasquale Menelli's or something, but at any rate the phone # there is 504 895 4877. If anyone is actually going to try, call & ask for one of us as part of the Steely Dan party. Better yet, just beam your rendition, stray comments, or loving harassment straight through the ether to the chip in Clas' head--the one the Feds implanted when he was laid over in Covington. If Pasquale won't let you through, perhaps we can come up with plan B.
At any rate: you'll be hearing from us.
Name: Let Your Fingers Do The Walking
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 16:41:24
Comments:
Ole-WAIT... just how do we call in our air guitar solos? You got a cell phone?
Name: lisa & samantha
techno cyber w@nnabes
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 16:28:13
Comments:
here we are in the sprawling metropolis of slidell, la- sitting at an espresso shop and marvelling at the wonders of the swedish mangod clas...ruby baby, you are missing out, girlfriend!
we may have already spotted that kinky soNso on bourbon street this afternoon- as we were trying to re-discover the location of our vehicle (which was no easy task after consuming large hurricanes at o' brian's)...there was a strange man with silver shoes shadowing us as we hurried along the narrow streets...i spied him first- then samantha and clas shot me a look of dreaded certainty...it was kinky! as the man sped away, i caught a whiff of armani and saw the glint of his cartier cufflinks.
wait!
a skinny man in two-tone shoes just walked by...
Name: TheStranger
warning: music & dan-related musings
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 14:43:49
Comments:
to everyone who loves a great drum solo,
listen to philadelphia phil jones play on 'salt peanuts' of 'steamin'' with the miles davis quintet. sounds like 5 drummers at once, all synchronized.more and more i'm getting into 'book of liars.' becker's voice is even beginning to sound good.
danfesters: used to be a dive in french district called la casa de los marinos. once again, if you don't get knifed, it's a good place. to all rabbis going to the reunion: it's hard to keep kosher in new orleans. you may have to drink lots of wine so you won't get malnourished.
ultimate danfester tip: wear trousers with a tight waist. if you get jailed, they take away your belt.
Name: Roy.Scam
Hey.Moebius
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 13:50:05
Comments:
Cruiser: Congratulations. Boss wedding picture. "Honeymoon In New Orleans" would be an excellent movie or real life idea.
Ben Folds Five is scheduled to appear on Letterman tonight. -- I've listened to the song "In Love" from Ben Folds' "Fear of Pop" album; that's the song with William Shatner doing the lead vocals. I won't attempt to describe the song, but there's a line in the background vocal that sounds like "..oleander eyes..". Does anyone else hear that? You can hear samples of it on the internet without having to buy the album (which I undestand is extremely experimental and self indulgent.)
Doc Kelly: We have something in common. lisa was the first person I ever heard call me by the name Scam [in a positive way, that is].
Y'all have a good time in New Orleans, and don't forget you're supposed to eat those things head first.
RS
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 13:13:47
Comments:
Danfesters: Please accept my most humble apologies for not attending... I hate it when this happens. I was fairly psyched about hitting the big easy! My pilot was freaking out about the weather forecast... and he didn't have several chores taken care of... yada, yada, yada...
Ole: say Hi to Lisa... she called me the other evening... Wow, what a fantastic southern voice she has! It really caught me off-guard to hear from a Lisa other than my close friend with the same name... and I've never heard anybody say "doc kelly" before!!! If the story Lisa told me about why Clas got waylaid in Kentucky is true then he must have some real bad luck... or... I'll leave it up to you to verify the real story.
Name: OMIO
stilwell@efn.org
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 08:37:09
Comments:
John, Jon, & so on.. I'd like to get copies of any Dan stuff I can.. From anyone who has any.. Write to the e-mail above..
RIP Al Hirt..
Name: John
drinking his red stripe
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 07:23:58
Comments:
Jon, Denny Dias is involved in this Aja
reunion.....still want a copy?
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 06:01:22
Comments:
Jon,
I believe that reunion was the making of the VH1 special to be released this year about that "classic" album. They got as many of the musicians as possible that played on the album and other associated people together in NYC for the interviews. I heard that they asked Wayne Shorter who played sax and tragically lost his wife on TWA Flight 800 about the album and that he said that he didn't even remember playing on it.
Name: jon
@ his yellow stripe
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 05:18:56
Comments:
Anyone know what the deal is with:
STEELY DAN - 'AJA REUNION'---January 12, 1999 / River Sound - New York City
as reported on SD's official site? Are recordings available? Q?
Name: oleander
c/o central committee
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 23:45:27
Comments:
LISTEN UP!
COUNTDOWN TO DANFEST:
The harmonic convergence has begun. Even now lisa and Sam have mindmelded with the Infamous Swede, already an international cause celebre.
For all like-mindmelded souls, don't forget:
LITTLE FEAT, 5:30 THURSDAY, JAZZFEST
THE MAIN EVENT, 9:00 FRIDAY, PASCAL MANALLY'S
--ask for the Steely Dan party
--prize as usual for the best Steely-related costume
--prize for the best air-guitar rendition of a Steely solo (You may call in)
--surrealistic shooters courtesy of Razor BoyAND THEN: getting stuffed with everything Cajun; Kinky-spotting; doing as many things from SD songs as we can possibly pack in and then some (without getting arrested); and hearing some really good gospel
SUNDAY: hangovers & regrets
Name: oleander
got something in my eye there
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 23:26:16
Comments:
BigFan--no, that's premature eDanulation... see above. Will need best wishes, prayer chains, catastrophic medical coverage in about two days.
fezo--Thanx, but you do. And think better.
GKJ--No, not that Moebius. Moebius of Larrius, Curlius, and Moebius.
Myra--I'll try, but my list might just end with you all.
jk--will be greenly eyeing you from afar.
Geena--hey girfriend! Don't get lost in the past.
Midnite--MAZEL TOV! [old crusty heart melting]
Roy--all foodstuffs, logical or illogical, will be fair game in NO--maybe we'll find some Moebius salt-water taffy strips--no, that's Va Beach. Donuts & bagels are notorious toruses (felonious Moebius?).
Mu, GKJ--more great images of pretzel logic.
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 20:22:55
Comments:
jk,
Thanks for the reminder to check out Dinky's sight. I like the picture of Dinky, Pete and Denny. I would have been just to the right of the picture when Shari took it. The photo is in the basement of Sean O'tooles and they are all standing in front of a big chest freezer. It's possible that that is my copy of Dinky's book they just got done autographing. A great night for sure, but probably not as great as everyone is having in New Oerleans right now.
Name: DrMu
turnip that funked up muzak white boy
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 20:00:08
Comments:
That reminds me of a true and mercifully short (OK relatively short) story: As a teen I had my summer employment back in the Old North State "down on the farms." Cucumbers, vegatables, tobacco, you name it. It payed better than Mickie Ds and caused less acne. Anyway, one sweltering mid-summer, the am-fm radio clock alarm sprung on at 5:37 every morning to sentinel us to arms. We used to listen to am radio at night to get those Cleveland and Chicago stations for the heck of it. Before bed, I'd turn the dial to virtually the only non-country FM radio station (not much to choose from then and there) since the ionosphere tends to lose it's ability by sunrise to act as a backboard against radiowaves in the kHz range (AM). It was a chincy radio station with minimum wage DJs during the day and a janitor pushing in tapes at night up to early morning (7am). During those dog days, the janitor must have gotten really lazy, because he'd put in the same tape about 4 in the morning. The result was that at every morning at 5:37 am for I swear about 7 or 8 weekdays in a row I'd hear *click* and then that Chicago baritone: "Yooouuuuulllllll nevaaahhh fiiiiiiinnnnnddd, another luv like miiiiinnne. To this day any time I hear Lou Rawls, all I can think about are the squealing farms pigs and the smell of tobacco barns and rotting cucumbers.
Name: DrMu
the long unwinding road
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 19:04:10
Comments:
Roy: There's always a trade-off in a way complex universe. It's either high S/N, fidelity, dynamic range but with coming off the reel vs. wow, flutter, distortion, Danitis interruptus along with the eerie reassurance of "Groundhog Day" deja vu in 4 different worlds.
Name: Peter North
I'll rise when the chick goes down
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 18:51:52
Comments:
jk- Peter's north is always true north. But it sure seems like a woman's breasts cause a magnetic reaction that gets me pointing as north as north can be. So, we let that remain a mystery. Good question anyway.
Love to my fellow Steely Dan and/or Titfucking extravaganza fans,
Pete
Name: Mayor Rudy
bring on the bitch
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 18:37:37
Comments:
Soon the First Lady is going to formally announce she will be a candidate for the Senate race in the Empire State. I welcome the challenge, and think it will be a very interesting race. I hope that the Chinese don`t try to buy the election .
Name: RubyBaby
Forever in blue jeans
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 14:00:37
Comments:
Midnite Cruiser: I know you won't be reading this for a short while, but...
Thanks for the glimpse of love! It brought a warrmth to my heart and a smile to my face. It's one of the best bride & groom pictures I've ever seen!
(tossing cyber rice into the air)
rb
Name: Kulee
baba
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 13:32:53
Comments:
jk- Denny Dias touring? Tell Dinky to bring back Royce Jones (minus the afro) and then we can jam! Tell Denny he MUST wear those same overalls he used to wear on tour in '74. All we need now is Porky & Bucky and we can really party. I saw a guy at a local bar here, he looked alot like Jerome Anton. I'm going back to this bar tonite and if it is indeed Jerome we can get him to mc the whole darn thing.K
Name: GK John
Mmmmmm,logic
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 11:52:12
Comments:
Roy- Ah!
Name: jk
jk
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 11:31:13
Comments:
Dinky and denny will be touring. But that is the only date i know so far. Sounds like fun though. Careful who you room with at the hotel - they may snore really loudly for hours in montauk. Check out dinks web
http://www.dinkysworld.com/road.htm
jk
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Location: Danville, VA
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 11:11:37
Comments:
Well we went and got ourselves married this morning.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/JimShirlKiss.jpg
Yes, we did get married in jeans! On our way to the mountains for a wee honeymoon....y'all take care!
btw, has EvivaLaughs gotten married yet???
Name: Personnel
nothing personal son
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 10:47:07
Comments:
> APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER
>
> NOTE: This application will be considered incomplete and rejected unless
> accompanied by a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and
> current medical report from a licenced physican.
>
> 1. NAME____________________________ DATE OF BIRTH_______________
> 2. HEIGHT_________________WEIGHT_____________I.Q._______________
> G.P.A.__________________
> 3. SOCIAL SECURITY #____________________DRIVERS LICENSE #_________
> 4. BOY SCOUT___________________________RANK____________________
> 5. HOME ADDRESS________________________CITY,STATE,ZIP____________
> 6. Do you have one MALE and one FEMALE> parent??_______________________
> If NO, EXPLAIN_________________________________________________
> 7. Number of years your parents have been> married_______________________
> 8. Do you own a van?________________A truck with oversized> tires?_______
> A waterbed?_____________Do you have an earring, nose ring, or> belly button ring?__________ A tattoo?________________
> If you have answered "YES" to any of #8 discontinue application> and don'tbother to forward!!!!!!
> 9. In 50 words or less, what does "LATE" mean to you? __________________________________________________________________________
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> 10. In 50 words or less, what does "DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER" mean to you?
__________________________________________________________________________
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> 11. In 50 words or less, what does "ABSTINENCE" mean to you? __________________________________________________________________________
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> 12. Church you attend_______________________How often do you
> attend___________________________________________________________
> 13. When would be the best time to interview your Father, Mother, Priest,
> Rabbi, Minister?________________________________________________________
> 14. Answer the following questions by filling in the blanks, please answer
> freely. All answers will remain confidential (that means I won't tell anyone
> ever, I promise.)
> a. If I were shot the last place on my body I would wany wounded is my___________________
> b. If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken would be my___________________
> c. A woman's place is in the __________________________________
> d. The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is____________________
> e. When I first meet a girl, the first thing I notice about her is_______
> NOTE: If your answer begins with "T" or "A", discontinue the application. Leave premises keeping your head low and running in a
serpentine fashion is highly advised....
> 15. What do you want to be IF you grow up?_____________________________
>
> STATEMENT: I SWEAR THAT ALL THE INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH,
DISMEMBERMENT, NATIVE AMERICAN ANT TORTURE, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER
TORTURE, RED
> HOT POKERS, AND HILLARY CLINTON KISS TORTURE.
> _________________________________________
> SIGNATURE (This means your name)
>
> Thank you for your interest in my daughter. Please allow four to six years for processing. You will be notified in writing IF you are
approved. Please do not try to call or write. If your application is
rejected, you will be notified by two gentlemen wearing white ties and
carrying violin cases. Keep alert.......
Name: Geena
i'm still the one
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 09:53:40
Comments:
Ok guys, I know I haven't been around lately, but I have many reasons, and none of them have anything to do with who pissed me off, etc. This is a story for another time.
GKJohn: Here are my views, albeit not complete because I can go on forever, but this is just something that I've been thinking about the last week or so. And hey, I miss ya baby!
When something horrific happens people look for tangible things to lay the blame on. The worse, the deep red feeling of panic that screams "not here, it couldn't happen here!" the more we look for some *thing* to pick up that we can hold and examine. We seek to name the nameless. The media knows this about our society, and be it print or visual, the news media will play on this need to label and identif. All of the pundits and self styled experts have gained an audience for this short moment in time. Anyone with an agenda has a platform, and we in our pain will grasp at the straws.
It's the music. Ozzy Osborne and Judas Priest strike again. satanic rituals, skinhead mentality and Hitler's birthday, something in the water/air/ground making the rats go round and
round. Blame the internet! look .. everything is there. Blame the police, the parents, the students and teachers. We all hurt the feelings of these displaced souls and now we reap the harvest of their bitter bile.Advertising rates are going up for primetime news. Print ads for the editorial section, two for the price of an inflated one. Jump on the bandwagon, get your slice of the pie. natter-natter this horror until the next one comes, and it will.
Blame is such a simple thing to throw onto an event as Littleton, and the less simple the act, the more simple the blame may appear to be. It's easier for our society to buy, and i do mean buy, into this than to ask the harder questions, seek the harder face in the mirror solutions. I'll say it again and again. this isn't about learning how to make pipe bombs from the internet or banning guns or the ability to buy them. There isn't anything new on the internet that hasn't been around since long before your parents and mine were born (and some of it, their parents). Littleton, and most of the things before it, and what will follow is about the dehumanizing, compartmentalization, and isolation of society.
Respect and responsibility. Wonder of and at life. Find a way to bring those back into society, and just possibly, things might change. But in the meantime, CNN will drone on. and you're listening.
I'll be back later after i've finished reading the GB...
Ciao for now...
Name: Capt In Head
breakfast of champions
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 09:11:52
Comments:
Have you read my book, Moebius Dick?
Hey Sailor, that ain't water.
Name: Roy.Scam
mmmmmm.pretzels
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 08:42:23
Comments:
GK John: You say pretzel logic is the act of twisting reality by assimilating an absurd statement and making it sound plausible? Isn't that what I just did when I attempted to explain Pretzel Logic? -- I'm also fond of circular logic, wherein an argument is used to prove itself; in the food domain that would have to be called Donut Logic (mmmmm). I foresee an entire album of great Becker fagen tunes about food related logics: Poy Logic, Matzoh Logic, stop me if this starts to get silly.
Schwinn: Are you going to the Danfest? Wil you be sending gifts from the exotic West?
Hermit, Mu: You're lucky your universe is an eight-track. Mine is a reel-to-reel, unwound and flopping off the edge of an old Wollensak with every rotation.
RS
Name: Sociable Hermit
StillOnTrackTwo...
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 06:27:01
Comments:
Dr.Mu:
Life is an 8 track tape. That would explain why I always have to wait until something clicks before I can move ahead.
Name: fred
wet behind the ears
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 02:57:30
Comments:
Sir Fred
Is that a new deck of cards I smell?
trim?
Name: Colorado Kool-Aid
smell my finger
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 02:41:35
Comments:
I've been raped! I'm not a crude boy! I've been raped! I'm a woman, dammit! Jerry Harrison said, "the rules do not apply" but some loathesome bastard and his friends forgot that and made me FIGHT till I LOST! Fuckers! I broke a nail!
You know, at times like this I feel like an "important" person. I mean, the cops are asking me questions and buying me coca-colas every time I say I'm thirsty and that makes me really open-up and say things I might not ordinarily admit. ("Oooh...I've got to go tee-tee again...) Damn those CIA guys are smart! They know when I've really got to "tee-tee" and when I'm just trying to get away to buy my friends some automatic weapons at the nearest neighborhood gun show. Hey, that guy is cute! He must be on to me!
Scent 'O Columbine,
Little Lacy Non-Suspect
Name: Fred Hoyle
now you're talkin'
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 02:04:26
Comments:
Mu: Nature exploits her successful systems. How many things can you count that explode, expand, slow and eventually reaccrete? Time constraints don't count. In fact, that is the hardest thing for our pocket-protectored friends to discard. Time. When all of their elaborate suppositions side-step it and they cry their way through naked singularities like a baby only one thing is for sure. The Hubble's mirrors are still in need of some fine-tuning and some genuine titty-milk.
Charade UR,Fred
Name: TheStranger
keep your eye on the bouncing ball
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 22:46:43
Comments:
when we're told that getting rid of guns is hopeless (which is true) then we're supposed to assume any controls are useless. well there will always be murder, but we try to control murder through various means, including prison and presumably it cuts down on murder. or should we just give up because there will always be murder? incidentally, i never said we should get rid of all guns. what the gun crazies do is claim you're making an argument you're not making, then debate some statement you never made. they don't do this because they're clever (which they're not) but because they're uncomfortable with their dicks and can't get them to work properly so they worship guns instead. what we need to control is handguns and all semi-automatic weapons. and those guns shows are like cigarette machines inside an elementary school.
incidentally, if those colo. cops were so brave, why did the teacher bleed to death unattended over a period of 3 hours? if he were a cop the other cops would have gone in to get him. when the dust clears someone's gonna notice, as i'm sure his family already notices.
Name: DrMu
thinking is a dangerous sport
Location: procrastination city,
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 19:57:52
Comments:
Hmmm...maybe the universe is a moebius strip?? Look far enough with the Hubble we see an early version of great grandparent of the Milky Way...why can't we see the big bang?... maybe there wasn't one...maybe the universe time space continuum is some kind of freakin' 8 track tape...that would explain a lot of things...a prototype Universe...can't wait for the DVD version...my head's about to explode...back to a paper that's been in the oven longer than the new one...no I have not become a collective with THC molecules and yes I do have my clothes on...
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 15:19:35
Comments:
jk: Great News! The room I stayed in was $56 off season at the Sheraton, but over $200 in season esp. over a holiday weekend. I also hear that driving in Plymouth on summer weekends is near imposible and my private helo pilot is off that weekend. Any suggestions?
Do you know who he will be playing with? Obviously Lisa Jason, but who else is in the "permanent" band?
I would like to see Denny again in person. I wonder if "Skunk" Baxter can take time off from keeping America safe to show up for a few sets. Now then I might have to get a room in town! Please keep us posted.
"this is the time of the expanding man..."
Name: Myra Eyefull
"Blink"
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 14:56:32
Comments:
Big Daddy: Roy did not find me in a bottle on the beach, I was drinking from a bottle on the beach. I have no powers and I am frequently on the "dark side",according to Big Roy!
To all of you who get to go to New Orleans for the next Danfest,I want you to bring home presents for those of us who were left behind.
Myra
Name: jk
jk
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 13:41:32
Comments:
Mr North, is it true north or magnetic north? mine's due south.
Anyway! SD Fans will be able to see Denny and the crew perform live at Plymouth's (mass.) Heritage Fest, July 3rd at 7p.
They'll be back at Sean O'Toole's (great bar - many beers on tap) at 9pm for the CD release party. Fans should get there early as Plymouth is a hoppin' place to be on the 4th!
Denny will be flying out here in early May to place final touches on the disc, and then it go to press. Looks like we'll have the disc first week in June.
Name: DrMu
his lone tree still
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 10:54:44
Comments:
GKJ: Ooooooohhh, I like that comment about twisting the ends to justify the means...or twisting time and space to travel back in time and make it back to now on the sam continuum...
Name: DrMu
the trunk's indiscreet
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 10:48:54
Comments:
Roy: Where were you when my old school calculus teachers were putting me to sleep? The cool thing to me about a Moebius strip is that if you follow the surface there is no beginning and no end. Don't ask me to explain it mathematically, but... RUBY, if you take say a gold, no Steel - colored ribbon that people use for making present bows and cut a 10 in. strip. Hold an end in each hand and stretch it out so it's taut and you have a top flat surface. Then take one end (ex. right hand) and flip THAT end of the ribbon strip 180°. Now swing and bring your hands under and together so the ribbon strip forms a ring. Tape the ends together. Now I believe you will have the simplest Moebius strip I can think of.
Name: GK John
I have never met Napolean either
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 10:36:29
Comments:
Roy- I always thought that when someone applied pretzel logic to something, one was bending or twisting their means to justify the end (Does that sound right?) or making a conclusion fit into a statement or problem by assimilating some sort of absurd explanation and making it sound plausible (?) I get so confused sometimes!
Ole- Do you mean moebius the famous French cartoonist who gained immense popularity from the mid 70's introduction of Heavy Metal Magazine? (Or Metal Hurlant in France)
Am I making sense today?Hey Geena! You out there? Just wondering when you'll weigh in on this Littleton thing...
Name: fezo
runningonfumes
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 10:26:23
Comments:
Herm: Guns have always been easily available. When I was in high school almost twenty years ago, it was easier to score a pistol than some hash. What prevented a Colorado like carnage was some innate sense of we're all in this bs of school together. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't some Panglossian utopia, there were nerds, there were the snotty rich kids, there were rednecks who seemingly lived for nothing but riding endlessly around the park chugging Buds, and on occasion, one of the three groups was getting harassed by other. But we sure as hell never felt compelled to resolve the disputes with gunplay.
Ole: Great post. I wish I could write like you.
Name: Roy.Scam
altimira.speelunkers.society.
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 08:44:29
Comments:
Ruby, Oleander: Regarding the title of Pretzel Logic: I've never actually manufactured a pretzel (but I'd love to find the time). I presume it involves taking a linear object and turning it into a shape that eventually returns to its starting location. The beauty of a moebius strip is that you can reach any and all points, any number of times, without ever leaving the strip or going backwards. Likewise a pretzel with its rounded exterior.-- If we could take time (which we know as strictly linear), twist it and join its ends, we could visit and revisit any point: the Napoleonic Era, the minstrel days, even meet the Altimira Man; and we'd never have to break the rules about leaving reality or moving backwards in time. --- Twisted logic is sometimes the most fun.
lisa & sam: Have a good time at the Dan/Jazz Fest, and please avoid people with scalpels and tubs of ice. Better yet, swing by and leave your vital organs with me.
RS
Name: Sociable Hermit
MondayMorningYouSureLookedFine
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 08:07:59
Comments:
Hi,
In the aftermath of this tragedy, many people have come up with potential solutions to hopefully stop this from occurring again. When I suggested banning guns, I met met with some resistance, and I think I may know why that is: people are looking for quick-fixes to cure the problem. Quick-fixesare fine as long as you intend to do some major, long-lasting repairs further down the road. Yes, banning guns effective tomorrow might not do much immediately, because of all the guns currently in circulation, but, years from now, I believe that it will help immensely. I think you can compare it to segregation. Just because blacks finally got the same "rights" granted to them that whites had, did not mean that every white person with propensity toward racism would automatically be civil and treat all blacks as they rightfully should be treated. It took time. It still doesn't work as well as it should, but you must agree that it is a hell of a lot better now than it was when the civil rights bills were enacted. In order to make things work, you have to look to the future, not just the present. The fact is, that guns are much more accessible than they were twenty years ago. If they were so easy to get back then, I'm sure there would have many cases of bloodshed in my high school alone.
Herm
Name: q
FLAROOM
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 07:11:25
Comments:
Before this takes on a life of it's own - NO offense or innuendo of any kind was intended against Dan K. !!!!!!!!!!!
Dan has included me in postings in the past and his was simply the first that came to mind !
Geez.. I did'nt know running the Caves of Altamira Recource Recovery Project would be so difficult !
Q
Name: lisa & sunny sam
trippin the light f@ntastic
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 06:10:47
Comments:
we're on our way to the promised land-
hope they got good weed.
see yall in the big easy...p.s. roy.scam: we will miss you like we'd miss our own liver.
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 05:54:37
Comments:
Q,
Being eliminated from cyberspace isn't that easy. My point of presence is still active even if I cease to exist. I survived Melissa and Chernobyl and suspect that I will be around for some time. I do like Caves, it is one of my favorites though. I have visited, Penn's, Howe's, Crystal, and many unnamed ones in my time.Please let me know if you need more information. You can reach me at the above email address.
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 at 05:14:51
Comments:
We at the Caves of Altamira Resource Expoitation Center have recvd 11,243 emails concerning a reference made about one " Dan Krouse" - for those of you who did'nt understand - Mr,. Krouse is a fine gentleman - BUT REMEMBER - he does not exist. Please switch your DBX Decoders to "Skunk Baxter".
Thankyou,
Q
Name: Peter North
Son, you'd better be ready for love
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 23:34:11
Comments:
jk- Don't fret, I've been working hard at making more films. This computer thing is just my other hobby. Believe me, during the time that I'm not logging on, I am grinding out my living. Thanks for your concern,
Pete
Name: oleander
no in at the room
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 22:28:59
Comments:
David--Hope you/ she can make it happen.
Stranger--C'mere, let me soothe that fevered brow with a WASHCLOTH. And tell you what, when you get to New Orleans, I'll take you to see "The Matrix."
Q--Right, except it'll be Kinky in that greasy chair.
Mu--I know. Does that mean they'll go full court in the White House?
GKJ, Herm, Doc, Mr. Stew--BEWARE: RANT AHEAD> I agree with Herm--all of the above. In the aftermath of something like this, there's always a flurry of finger-pointing, which usually ends up going nowhere. Like Mr. Stew sez, it is WAY deep and WAY complicated. Parents, schools, government, religious institutions, kids themselves, media, greedy gun & computer software manufacturers, people without kids who don't want to pay taxes to help schools--all share. It seems to me that what really matters is that we all pick something and do something about it. It may be as simple as refusing to knuckle under to our kids' badgering to get Mortal Kombat, the latest violent misogynistic materialistic gangsta rap cd, or sophisticated toy weapons. Or going to our kids' schools and starting to ask the right questions and push the dialogue. Or working to promote parenting education, anger management, peer counselling, etc. Or watching TV with our kids and TALKING about what they are seeing. Or as several said, actually spending time with them and making sure we know what's going on with them. A parent-child disconnect like that in Littleton is a worse horror than anything I've seen in the movies. About gun control: the drug/ gun analogy doesn't quite fit. Gun manufacturers are legal and domestic. At every attempt to ban a particular weapon, they just alter it a smidge and resell it. They are as conscious and ruthless as the tobacco industry, but they could be squeezed just as big tobacco has been, if the government weren't in the lap of the gun lobby (apologies, Peter). The drug industry is illegal and sources are largely foreign, making it a lot slipperier and less amenable to traditional democratic (not Democratic) interventions. Unfortunately, one of the reasons the gun problem is so bad is related to the demand created by the drug problem. If gun manufacture, sale, and acquisition were really controlled, there would be a tremendous impact, but of course that won't fix it. There will always be traffic in illegal weapons, and it will take a long time to make a dent in the ugly ocean of clandestine weapons--but as Stranger says, we can't NOT do it. As for the media, I love the First Amendment, but there sure as hell are some things it is NOT OK to say. Or to say to certain groups, like kids. And there are laws which regulate some of them. We can work on demand for violent entertainment on our end, but there comes a point--eg, the Nuremberg Files--where I agree on ceasing & desisting. The problem, of course, is where is the point?
Ruby--OK. I really believe you're not being facetious. REALLY. Just snowed by conservative bullshit. But I still like ya. BTW, I think "pretzel logic" refers to a Moebius strip--a 1 dimensional construct made with 2 dimensions in 3 dimensional space.
Mitch--You wanna give me a date in November?
johnboy--jeez, another date hog. All right, you got 2001.
momfred--gotcha.
poop--I saw that book. Aside from the coincidental name, it has NOTHING to do with OUR Mr. Becker.
o off
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 16:08:37
Comments:
I'm sorry - but I have already sewn up the Caves of Altamira rights - in fact I sold the rights to the name to ABC back in '78
in exchange for a vial of Donald's urine.I have been financing the purchase of an extensive collection of Steelus Danus artifacts from the royalties and other marketing and distribution of resource material from The Caves of Altamira site for the last 2 decades.
Our next project is the exploitation of the "Kamakariad blueprints" - we intend to obtain a licence from Tipper Gore(Al's business manager) to allow us to eliminate internal combustion engines of all types following Al's victory in the 2000 election cycle.
We then intend to open a new wing in The Smithsonian dedicated to two fellows named Donald Fagen and Walter Becker, respectively.
After consulting with Al's(Tipper's) finance committee we have determined that a one time fee of $2billion is appropiate to explore all alternatives for influencing the Public Conciousness
utilizing the Words And Music of Messr's Fagen & Becker.Projections from The OMB, FDA,FCC,NASA,ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN,The Spanish Channel,FOX, Scully ,Muldor(sp?), and the Smoking Man, indicate that we should be able to achieve full penetration(of the Public Conciousness), at which time the Public will submit to our every whim. Ultimately - no one will live in New York City No More.
All universal "need to know" communications from this point on will be dissenminated through the moniker " Big Fan"(Dan Krouse is NOT a real person)
Stay Tuned and keep your DBX decoders in the "on" position.
"Q"
Name: DrMu
lost my
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 14:46:31
Comments:
Bering (s) not Gerings
Name: DrMu
faded yellow-green
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 14:44:51
Comments:
The science world has been rocked recently by the discovery of human skull fossils, tools etc. in North America which preceded the movement of people from Asia across the "land bridge" that spanned the Gering Strait 7000-8000 years ago. These fossils and tools have been found in Nevada, Georgia etc. and date from 9000-13,000 years ago. The shocker is that reconstricted skulls resemble Europeans, not Asians. Moreover, the tools were similar to those used in Spain and France during that period. Anthropologists theorize that the European settlers followed the edge of the ice pack (this was during and near the end of the "ice age") in the North Atlantic by boat using a route similar to Leif Ericksson. They postulate that these original "native americans" were either killed or more likely mated with the Asians who migrated down from Alaska thousands of years later. A nice article can be found in I believe Newsweek. The US Department of the Interior has been inundated with phone calls, faxes amd e-mails of people claiming to have ancestors who lived within 100 km of the Caves of Altamira: they're asking for a cut of the Casino profits raked in on reservations in Connecticut and elsewhere. .
RB: One t.
That's DTMA.
Probably the same stuff, repackaged. Most likely an "unofficial" release
Name: Ruthless
g@rdner
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 07:11:45
Comments:
"Though he purrs, the Cat's only partly here,
Poised 'tween the hearth and the street outside.
Half-tame, half wild, he's a walking riddle,
Playing both ends against the middle.And so Man hangs between Truths he must fear
And the murderous animal under his hide.
The Dog's by nature the best of his friends,
Playing the middle against both ends. "
Name: Captain Crunch
now with extra sugar!
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 02:03:25
Comments:
f off: Wow, you must have just completed one of those anger management courses Mr. Stewart mentioned!
Mu: Exactly. That's why Clas is running around naked in Slidell. No place to hide a bomb or a weapon and there's no law against displaying a pea-shooter in this country.
Roy: Please ask Myra to make all those new laws you mentioned come true. Then we won't have to be so sneaky around Major Bellows.
Time for Another Nourishing Breakfast,CC
Name: what the f
what an interesting game?
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 22:23:14
Comments:
okay, I get it.
fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me
fool yourself... worst of allfrom the perspective of a little spider ant hills seem as mountain peaks; a straining voice reverberates larger distorted 'other'voices, exaltations self-reflected: top of the world, ma
or down in the bottom?some great Web of deceit. a poor liar might still trust his own prowess. worst liar fools no one and believes lies to himself.
transparent. deluded.
all the new clothes have no emperor
king of the hill naked and small inside, baiting everyone around?
eat 'em and smile, gratifying himself underneath for all to see.
and they see it all right... hiding your hand? so you hope.
11 emotionally arrested tracks o' tireless whacking off, listed.
nothing personal,no offense. express yourself (all of them)
a true friend would be honest [deface da music] if you were worthy? or, maybe it's only rock and roll to one pathetic sick fuck and if you don't want to get any on ya, leave now. or, maybe the only winning move is not to play, especially if there is nothing worth winning... fanmail from some flounder feeding at the bottom on his own smegma? [how did moose and squirrel get in room?] okay. enough literary posing. you probably weren't born an asshole- you've had a lot of practice according to archives; you have accomplished great things from all that hard work.
a sterling display, albeit a waste of intellect trapped in a junior high school locker room next to a pair of new sneakers, innocently placed- weak with laughter, falling all over yourself after smearing some shit... shall I go on? or,how about a nice game of chess? nah.
[my sincere apologies to the rest of the GB (approx. 50%???)...
how do you Danizens put up with the stench?]
f off
Name: RubyBaby
CA dre@min'
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 22:04:24
Comments:
I saw Lost & Found and LMAO. We only went because it happened to be playing at the right time, but glad we did. The Hollywood Bowl was in this one. It brought back some FINE memories!!Anyway, one of the Previews showed something called "Outsider" (I think). At the end of said preview, it listed a few of the featured musical artists of the movie. You guessed it - Steely Dan is one of them. Eagles is another. Can't recall the other 2 but I already recommend it. It hasn't opened yet, so there's time to guess which SD tune they use...
RoyScam: why the hell did they call that song Pretzel Logic? I've always wondered that.
Dr.Mu: I saw a cd today that said "Becker/Fagen The Masters"
It has the same stuff as Old Regime and Roaring of the Lamb. Is it just another attempt to sell demos or are they actually master recordings? And when they re-re master an album, is it better? Do they add new things? I need guidance, as you can tell. But I'm not too proud to ask. You still da Bomb!Clas: I said you can smoke in the Cincinnati Airport - that was all.
Clothing is not optional until you get to New Orleans!rb
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 18:58:01
Comments:
Levon.............you've got a point there........
Name: Levon
levonlittle@aol.com
Location: Boston, MA
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 18:46:55
Comments:
I just thought of something. I was 20 years old when Steely Dan put out their last record. Now I'm 40 and still no record. What's wrong with this picture?
Name: El Supremo
keeping track of Clas from WB's 11 tracks-of-whack. com
USA
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 14:49:38
Comments:
Hello, DanFanDom!
Concerned about Clas and his arrival, I called the telephone number fromn 'Lisa' and talked with a desk person in Cincinnati, named Melanie, and she told me she "checked-him-in" and she 'did' remember him, and that he flew out this morning.
So, apparently, Clas put his clothes back on (realizing he was in the United States) and is on-the-way to the New Orleans JazzFest--dammit, Clas, what are you so 'melodramatic'??
We Wish we were with you!!
KatyDanFan and El Supremo
Your 'outcasts' and deranged SD fans for life
Cheers!
ES and JKDF
Name: jk
jk
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 14:14:22
Comments:
Peter north should spend more time on his career instead of lurking the net so much
jk
Name: Larry Flynt
doing wheelies
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 14:00:11
Comments:
Roy.Scam: aaaaaaauuuuwwwwaaaaaahhhh...Better yet, we should finally let the Republicans have there way and ban sex. It is Century's End and we as a society could ensure that no more children would be produced who might someday might create Johnny's playroom on school grounds. aaaaaaauuuuwwwwaaaaaahhhh... If we can get this through an emotional Congress (who I have numerous pic shots on) quickly, the signing of this bill will coincide with the opening of my new virtual-sex theme park: Schproing West. All your fantasies fulfilled. Ruthie, silver keys, and hemp await!
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Warm, but beautiful day in the Pineywoods forest with my grandson,
"Alec"; primo SD 'fan' on a Saturday, "Sorry, Angel, I get hungry like a
child when you smile. com"
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 13:58:13
Comments:
Howdy DanFanGangLand!!
So, it is apparent that Clas entered the 'cuntry' without clothes, or with ". . .some fine Belizian", and didn't want to 'give-it-up'. Well, here we are again with some sadistic (probably listens to Steely Dan music in their lives, and EATS 'froot loops', too).
Whatever the consensus of the GB 'clique' might be, I might think about supporting. However, you like to listen to " . . . I detect the El Supremo from the room at the top of the stairs . . ."Let-me 'vent'; por favor, 'gang' ". . .when the Razor boy comes and takes your fancy things away . . ."; and various lyrics which might lead one to thinking about going to the 'unregulated gun show' buying the 9mm 'Tec-9' pistol, along with the bonafide 'Bowie Knife" which was used at the 'Alamo'. So, where does that leave us, today? Well, Richard Speck killed some Chicago nurses (maybe 7 or 8) in the early sixties; some poor pathetic people 'took out' my former Oklahoma City federal building where I had to go sign my 'name' a hundred or so times when someone stole my income tax refund check from the US Postal Service and cashed it. Yes, Charles Whitman took out several from the University of TexAss tower, as did Mr. Kennard at the Luby's cafeteria.
Where do WE (as SD fans stand here?) One never knows. Now, as I am listening to "I.G.Y" from the Nashville, Tennessee set---it amazes me about all of this, as did the Oklahoma City bombing, and the 'James Byrd' from Jasper, Texas, ol' fashun' dragun' mentality' of this area in which I now live...
If, indeed Clas has been detained, Lisa, I will go to Slidell tonight and get him out of this predicament. Why didn't y'all tell Clas that he needed to wear clothes when he entered the U.S.A.??
Another thing, East Texas 'redneck smoke' is far superior to anything that Clas could have brought with him. Guess I will call him now, and smile, Gang---it has only been about 18 years since "Gaucho". So, what I would like to know 'from YOU' is, what keeps you 'hanging on' to Walter Becker and Donald Fagen's music, and why are y'all so weird??
Saludos, mi Amigos y Amigas
Michael C. Packard
; )
Name: Roy.Scam
Stepped.up.on.my.platform
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 09:26:44
Comments:
I say we should pass a law against murder and, once and for all, put an end to all of this killing people. Then, when the killing is stopped, we should make the sale and importation of heroin and cocaine illegal, thus allowing people to go on with their lives without the burden of having to use drugs.
Following a rash of appearances of weapons at one of our local high schools, the authorities, in a show of courage, attacked the problem forthrightly and banned the wearing of starter jackets in school. Some criminology expert discerned that the loose fitting jackets could facilitate the concealment of weaponry. They found that controlling fashion was much easier and safer than directly confronting those unpleasant gun-carrying types. --- And it's a whole lot easier than paying attention to the people who are growing up in your own house.
Bigger D: Yes, I found Myra in a bottle on the beach. She can make it all happen with a blink. It is my awesome responsibility to see that her powers are used for good. God help us if she turns to the dark side.
Reason # 88 to like Steely Dan: You can, almost without exception, determine the title of their songs by listening to the words (Pretzel Logic notwithstanding). I've been hearing Led Zeppelin songs for almost 30 years and I still don't know half of them by name. [See also- Rainy Day Women, Bohemian Rhapsody, Opus 17, The Weight, The Rain the Park and Other Things, Key West Intermezzo]
RS
Name: baby
wrote me a letter
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 07:32:44
Comments:
A Little Boy's Letter to God:
A little boy wanted $100 badly and prayed for 2 weeks but nothing
happened. Then he decided to write God a letter requesting the $100.When the postal authorities received the letter addressed to God
USA, they decided to send it to the President. The President was so
impressed, touched, and amused that he instructed his secretary to
send the little boy a $5 bill. The President thought this would appear to be
a lot of money to a little boy.The little boy was delighted with the $5 and sat down to write a thank you
note to God, which read: Dear God, Thank you very much for sending the
money; however, I noticed that for some reason you had to send it through
Washington,D.C. and, as usual, those jerks deducted $95.
Name: DrMu
the 'stand gave me the nudes
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 07:26:12
Comments:
Topic: With Pretzel Logic and Katy Lied re- re- masters being release simultaneously on 5/11 (if you're real nice to your vendor, you might be able to get it Mon pm at the back of the delivery truck), the query I'm forwarding is "Which album do you like better and why?" I'll follow later with ny own thoughts.
If you haven't heard - New Ben Folds Five release this Tuesday. No one has a better imagination around than Ben Folds. "Whatever and Ever Amen" is a classic with a potpourri of musical styles...and Fear of Pop is weird, wild, wacky stuff...with the Squirrel Nut Zippers is Chapel Hill the Austin of the late 90s?
Mr. Stewart: My heart goes out to you. When I was a small kid (K through 3) in Illinois, they did things right. Went back a few years ago - what a freakin' mess. Colleges of Education and the Federal Government have been, in a misguided but well meaning effort (kinda reminds me of Clinton and Kosovo - successful execution of a plan actually counts!), putting teachers in a vice trying to force teachers to recondition and adapt to students with little central (home) guidance and a chaotic cultural/Jerry Springer society. tangent: M Diver - let's take the "guns" out of the pants of adults - mass sterilization!! Parenting allowed only if you pass the final exam!
I'm not sure the teachers' unions have helped who seem less concerned about the qulity of the teachers, but instead are trying to protect themselves and their conditioned comfort in underpaid jobs. One thing about the Littleton crisis that's clear, is the dedication of many of the individaul teachers. Let's help them for a change as parents!! I'm sure you have more thoughts on this. Hang in there.
Name: poop
waltsoloCD@now
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 06:11:35
Comments:
Link
by Walt Becker
From Kirkus Reviews , September 15, 1998
Earnest, slightly hokey Michael Crichton style adventure tale that poses
an extraterrestrial origin for some of humanity's best and worst traits.
Newcomer Becker's grasp of speculative anthropology is surprisingly
down-to-earth he appends a solemn afterword on unanswered questions
about human origins, including a bibliography ranging from Charles
Darwin to Carl Sagan. But such high seriousness is undermined by
gratuitous gunplay, turbid romance, and spy-versus-spy plotting. A
better-than-average debut that evokes suspense and moments of gee-whiz
wonder from a tired science-fictional premise. -- Copyright ©1998,
Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved.
Name: M Diver
yuppie@yippy
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 05:54:00
Comments:
Guns don't killl people. Kids do! Stop having them. The world has way too many people now. Keep your rubbers on!
Look at the far reaching effects of this tragedy. It has ruined this chat group for any SD discussion.
Has jerome aniton posted here yet?
MD
Here's a note from one Miss Turnbull/Certain Homework was not done/tiny holes in brand new windows/from an unknown bb gun /designer trenchcoat i bought for you/ "Science project" in the garage /keeps you up til one or two
Name: Groucho Marx
why@a duck.com
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 22:49:52
Comments:
What this country needs is a 7 cent nickle. Each time you'd go down to the newstand and buy a nickle paper you'd get 2 cents back.
Name: Mr. Stewart
rmech@alaska.net
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 22:39:52
Comments:
.....what to say. I don't know about taking all of the guns away. Black Market'd be right there with double Ak-47's or worse. Evil exists and some skinny man with two tone shoes can provide you with anything you want. I mean, come on, aren't I talking to the same people here who'd agree that drug prohibition has been a costly disaster? It's a deeper issue. Anger management being taught in grades k-12 is a start. Anger management classes for parents, too. How many times have I stood in my second grade classroom, some irrate parent going off on me in defense of their little johnnie/sally who blithely lies and steals, gets in trouble for it and then lies again about it to the parents who believe him/her over me? I sit in the hot seat watching the nostrils flare wondering how it came to this, waiting for the wrath to subside so we can approach reasonable dialogue. I've heard rumors that all parents used to back up the teacher.
Also, the system of wages earned for work performed in this country is all screwy today. Teachers, child welfare workers living hand-to-mouth while the big (perverted) salaries are in pro sports and playing mega-gigs at the Gorge (sorry D&W). O.K., strike what I said about the Gorge...I had a helluva good time there in '96. But maybe if we were all a little more comfortable marriages would remain intact more often, dads or moms could stay at home for those critical first five years of johnnie's life, more family vacations could be taken (helping keep family ties polished) without getting Visa involved (anyone else forced to pay their taxes with a credit card this year?).
But only a fool would say that.
Mr. Stewart
Name: Peter North
In the evening I go gunnin'
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 22:21:01
Comments:
Would gun control impact my career? Hey, Ruby, I'll shoot you anyday.
Name: RubyBaby
just shoot me
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 21:35:14
Comments:
Lisa: Wow - I thought Clas was flying in through Cincinnatti (how the heck do you spell that?) If I called him now it would be midnight, so I'll wait til morning. Never a dull moment with our Clas, is there?Dr.Mu and everyone else who thinks we should ban guns: I have some questions. I'm not being fecetious - these are real questions. I would like answers...
1) Is anybody keeping tabs on what guns & how many the criminal elements have?
2) If we make guns illegal, and all the law-abiding citizens turn theirs in, will the unlawful folks do the same? How will we know?
3) Will prohibition of guns work similarily to Prohibition of alcohol?
4) Pretending that all guns are gone (even the "bad guys" don't have any), then will someone determined to hurt people just give up, or find other ways?
5) Will they still be able to make homemade explosives? If so, shall we ban pipes, propane tanks, etc?
6) Assuming that everyone turns in their guns, where do you think those guns will end up?
7) If we give up our right to bear arms, what next - our right to defend ourselves? Why not? Doesn't it amount to the same thing?
8) What about people in Alaska? Will they be able to keep a gun (in case of grizzly bears)? I doubt a baseball bat under the bed would cut it.
rb
Name: DrMu
oops
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 19:42:47
Comments:
1945 not 1947
Name: DrMu
machine gun ibiza
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 19:40:27
Comments:
CDNow and CDUniverse are now taking pre-orders for Katy Lied and Pretzel Logic due 5/11.
GKJ: couldn't agree more. can't add much to your thoughts or my previous overly verbose rant - see (1
Soc: There is an inescapable logic that if only the guns could be taken away, the killing would stop. Cases in point: Germany and Japan, countries with a long history of armed conflict, swordfight, invasions, etc., who we disarmed in 1947...con't give the UN of NATO too much trouble now...but, of course, we can't Armed violence is part of our national psyche and history...a tough road.
The lead up top refers to Prefab Sprout. A couple of the Thomas Dolby references lately inspired another listen to the Dolby produced recordings. Unbelievagly clean and awesome dynamic range. Walter Becker has referenced them in some interview as a Dan-like band. Wild Horses and Machine Gun Ibiza from Jordan: The Comeback are real sonic sunbursts which will knock your socks off. From Langely Park to Memphis has a Dan-like sound too on like "I Remember That." Venus of the Soup Kitchen and Nightingales are/should be classics. Any Sprout fans still out there?
Name: lisa
@ fallen comrade
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 19:36:15
Comments:
look- the danfest isn't officially slated to begin until next week and already we have drama- i just received a call from our beloved clas...he flew out of stockholm this morning, was scheduled to arrive in slidell, la. just a little while ago...it seems he's been detained by our government in kentucky until further notice...they have him holed up at some hotel near the airport...he has no idea what's going on and is all alone and very frightened.
if there are any guestbookers near the holiday inn in covington, ky- please go and comfort him...smoke a joint with him...smooth back his hair as you would a child's, all the while chanting a lullaby of reassurance...or if you prefer, give him the # for a nice clean hooker?
any concerned beings can make contact at (606) 371-2233 room 136.
come on.
put yourself in his loafers.p.s. if you don't get an answer, he might be disco dancing in the lounge downstairs...just page mister clas lundkvist.
Name: momfred
yallcomebacknow.here
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 18:33:00
Comments:
I was at the grand ole opry last thursday for neil young.
he was fine.guess this'd be #5 for Matrix. stayed and saw it again... would that be #6 ?
li'l fred told me after school today that he didn't want a bb gun anymore. . . just a bike 'with gears'.
11/13 taken yet?
man.
Name: Mitch
mt. belzoni
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 18:07:25
Comments:
Some things i think i think.
That the new one is to be released in november That when war and tragedy occurs the GB becomes both a liberal and conservative think tank. That parents have to know what their kids are involved in, and who their friends are. That the Government can scale back social programs, then blow billions on conflicts that have been unresolved for hundreds of years. That the Crosby Stills Nash and Young Tour will be the hottest tour this summer.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch we hunt...
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 16:35:04
Comments:
Herm: I'm wondering about the practical side of banning guns. How would you suggest the actual process of making us a "gunless" society would work? I've got a 20 guage shotgun in my closet that I bought as a 16 year old... I've had it for 25+ years... and I live alone... Are you suggesting I must "turn it in"? Don't take me for a NRA'er because I'm NOT... and I do have major problems with handguns and "assault rifles"... But I honestly believe the "genie is out of the bottle" on this one! There are so many guns, of all types, out there that I can't imagine how you'd find them all... and if all the honest people turned their guns in... well, then the notion "only criminals will have guns" is seemingly apparent. BTW there is such a thing as "responsible gun ownership"... rigidly defined... trigger locks, etc. Anyway, Herm, I agree with you and GKJohn et al, the Colorado tragedy really must be blamed on parental neglect!!!
OK, I'm off my soapbox. Y'all can start shooting at me now.
Name: Sociable Hermit
Okay, I Lied
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 11:14:01
Comments:
One last thing.
I'm not suggesting that movies or video games are responsible for these killings. What I'm saying is that their obsessions with them were warning signs to their aberrant behavior. It went unnoticed, and unchecked. I believe that anyone has the right to view anything they want. I am not against banning anything, unless it could physically harm someone else. Like guns.
Herm
Name: Sociable Hermit
OneLastThing,Really
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 11:09:33
Comments:
Get all guns off the streets! The Constitution was written in a time when we still needed a malitia. And, it was a much smaller country, and probably easier to control any problems.
NO GUNS!!! If you want to protect your home, get an alarm system. Keep a bat under your bed. I read that only less than 1% of all guns are used to protect the owners. This isn't the old west, or a Bruce Willis movie. People don't have shoot-outs with outher citizens. They have them with the police because they have commited a crime. Melt all guns, and imposed HUGE fines on anyone who has one in their possession, anywhere. Yes, a gun does not shoot and kill by itself, it needs a person to pull the trigger. But if these people with those intentions do not have access to guns, there wouldn't be mass death and bloodshed like we've been seein lately.Later,
Herm
Name: Sociable Hermit
OneMoreThing
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 11:01:25
Comments:
Dear GK John, Stranger, and all my other liberal friends:
I could not agree more with what you say regarding this horror in Colorado. I was in fucking shock when I read on line only hours after if happened, that these monsters were described as being from, "good families", and "a good school". Let's start with the family.These boys had very few friends. Spent HOURS playing ultra-violent video games. Worshipped Adolph Hitler. Hated blacks, hispanics, and jews. Wore black trench coats (everywhere), and swastika patches. They also spent HOURS watching the movie, "Natural Born Killers". They had a web page that explained in detail how to build home-made bombs. An on-line newsletter published by one of them described the myriad ways he wanted to kill someone in his class. (The boy targeted was not a victim in Wednesday's rampage.) They produced a long, detailed, video that
showed them with real guns, acting out a slaughter that eventually took place. They also spent HOURS manufacturing bombs in their own homes. A neighbor of one of them said her heard loud noises and increased activity the weekend before.
WHERE THE FUCK WERE THE PARENTS THEN? How can ANY of this go on in a "good home"? They were also under the constant examination of a parole officer for the previous crime of breaking into a van. This man gave them both sterling reports, going on about how smart they were, and how they had unlimited potential. Were these kids either incredible actors, clinical schitzophrenics, or was it that parents and other supposed leaders of the community just didn't really give a shit enough to care?
Now, I know, this might seem a bit extreme. I'm 36 this year, and I can still remember the feeling of alienation as a teenager, both directly and indirectly. Yet no one I ever knew killed anybody, or even tried. And even back then, parents and educaters were just as suspect in carrying out their duties as they are now. So what is it? Blame the parents? Blame the school for not investigating their behaviour? (Ahem, the video taped "fantasy" violence should have been addressed.) Blame the gun problem? Blame kids themselves for teasing and ostrisizing their peers that they deem "uncool"?
Yes.
Actually, all but the last. Kids have acted like that for centuries, and will continue to act that way, but I feel that much of it could have been diffused if these, and all kids, are given adult attention and direction. Now, obviously, not every child will respond positively to such an act. But I think if the kids sees that at least adults are trying, it gives them the sense that someone cares. As it is, here were kids, and please understand, I am not in any way rationalizing their behaviour, yet they were looked down by their fellow students, and seemed to recieve no guidance from "leaders", i.e., parents, teachers, etc. They found solace in misery, pain, violence and vengence.
I can only think what may have been if instead, all that anger and energy that been addressed, and directed in another way.
Music. Art. Sports. Exercise. Work. I don't know.
I swear, if these motherfucking parents come forward and try to insinuate that they were good kids and they had no idea what was going on, then they should be put in prison. The lives of way too many people have been ended or altered because of indifference by way too many people, and in the eyes of all youth, I feel ashamed to be a parent.Later,
Herm
Name: jk
jk
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 10:51:03
Comments:
Hey I double posted last time. More for you folks to admire!
-5, +5, -10 sounds like my accountant. I need chords, baby. Spell them out please.
No the emmission is not citric - its a creamy delight
tell donald to call me -= i'll straighten him out.
Send money -jk
Name: TheStranger
Fight the Gun Lobby. It's Killing Our Kids
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 10:07:07
Comments:
i keep hearing we can't control guns so we shouldn't try. that's bullshit. look around the world. we're the only civilized country in the world that lets maniacs buy semi-automatic weapons. the nra spends millions of dollars to prevent background checks, waiting periods and measures to control the types of guns sold. all this works in favor of criminals, lunatics, and their right to mow us down because they think mommy and daddy didn't love them enough. you don't have to re-invent the wheel. there are other free countries and they don't sell semi-automatic weapons to anybody. i'm no war hero, but i was in the army and i know what those weapons can do. they are not even useful for hunting. as for handguns, they have only one purpose -- to kill human beings. the gun lobby is a group of deeply disturbed cowards. would you travel across country to discuss guns? that's what an nra convention is. these people need help. we don't need them controlling our legislative processes.
Name: GK John
Nobody's gonna go to school today
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 07:11:50
Comments:
Myra, Ole, Mu, Doc, Ruby, Et. Al.,
You all raise valid and empathic points. But aren't we missing perhaps the most crucial factor in the equation here? Where are the parents? NOW they apologize and duck and hide behind a statement for the media? Respect their privacy while they grieve?
I think a little retro-active respect might have saved them from cutting and running. Unfortunately for them, they now have to live with the shame and the label of having raised inhuman "monsters" for the rest of their days. No amount of spin doctoring is ever going to change the publics' perception of them having fucked up their roles as parents. And at a time when they should look forward to resting on their laurels and reaping the benefits of their retirement and grandparenting rewards in the not-too-distant future.
It angers me as a responsible parent that anyone could sit back and claim they "had no idea" this could ever happen. Aren't they watching? Aren't they wondering why their son is down in the basement or out in the garage until 2 AM? Does mysterious behaviour go unchecked because a child's privacy is sacrosanct? Whose house is it anyway? Were we of a certain age of responsibility allowed such inalienable rights when we were growing up? In my house, I had the right to do what my folks asked, when they asked.An interesting point to make would be parental culpability. This is in practice in many cities where if a child r ilaught vandalizing property and/or committing petty crimes and DUI, the parents are the ones who pay either monetarily or with community service. Can jail time be far behind?
No, this measure may not stop the next child from "going postal", but as a parent of pre-teen children myself, I would be eternally damned if I let my kids ruin my life by doing something so selfish and outrageous. This may not be the answer to curbing senseless adolescent violence or raising parental awareness, but might it work as a deterrent? Could it be any worse than the posthumous hand-wringing plastered in the papers each day? Stop the flow of guns? HAH! It's illegal to use and peddle drugs in this country. Do you see that stopping or slowing down any time soon?Hmmm...
OMIO- C'aint hep you thair, son. N'awlins aint my area of eksperteese!
Name: DrMu
@ the library
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 06:44:17
Comments:
BD: There was a time when people knew the difference between literature (art) and the media. The media is a product of our constitution and free society with the good and the bad
johnboy: and that would be in...Luxembourg?? even what little gun control which could and should pass Constitutional muster would not eleimnate the gun and knife shows or the black market.
In the days after there is hope as stories of bravery and perserverence on the part of students and teachers trickle out of Colorado. If you turn your head just right, you can hear it...and with all the mess going on politically here and with China and Kosovo, there is always the outside chance that 2 decent guys: Bill Bradley and John McCain might be nominated for President...to dream.
May predictions in order of increasing speculation: re- release of Katy Lied and Pretzel Logic; Making of Aja on classic albums on VH1; and announcement of a firm date on the new one. I interpret the new, slick look of the official site as in part an effort to interest, hook casual passer-bys who will be driving through soon when the new product has a firm release date/tour schedule. These guys are not averse to making a buck, ya know.
Ole: No, I'm certainly not suggesting that troubled youths are beyond the help of caring hands and hearts - they need it. It's easier to predict that many of these youths will find and cause trouble - It's just difficult to predict from complexity and chaos theory (assuming one believes it applies to human behavior) how extremeness of the outcome and the way in which it is manifested. That's exactly what I mean - an ounce of prevention will effectively reduce the overall risk, but it's not a panacea.
Name: Jim Rockford
Down in Malibu
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 05:23:43
Comments:
Mr * :
Alternative theory is that the throat "problem" is just an cover story's for DF's unwillingness to sign off on new product. WB is irked and has headed back to Hawaii to stew. In his absence, the official site has veered from it's previously Becker-influenced whimsicalness and now looks more and more corporate every update. If you ask me, the chances of a new . . . Angel!!! Get away from my stash.
Got to go.
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 05:13:25
Comments:
Biggest Dadda - I ALWAYS need more juice !!
Have fun and be safe in New Ole-ans !!!!!!!!!
Do we need to fly extra party favors in ????
A prediction of the scene in New O -
"She takes the taxi to the good hotel
Bon marche' as far as she can tell
She drinks the zombie from the cocoa shell
She feels
Alright"
.................you know the rest - except"At the Grotto
In the greasy chair
Sits the Charlie(freak) with the lotion
And the Kinky hair..........when she smiled she said it all................."
Name: johnboy
drinking@the.milk.bar
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 02:26:11
Comments:
Mu, Oleander: You can easily predict that someone who can't get a gun will not shoot anyone.....
Oleander: New cd: sometime in 2001 (I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that).
Name: Bigger Daddy
SET
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 01:24:11
Comments:
Q: The tower is all yours. Let me know if you need some more juice, ok?
Mu: Yes, I'm sure a head on a stick will quiet the young ruffians. Unfortunately, eschewing the media ultimately excludes Pinnochio and Lord of the Flys as training material. Got any bootlegs of Tea for the Tillerman?
Ole: Sorry, I didn't realize Roy's comments were out of "reverence". Guess we all need to sit down with a bottle of Jaggermeister and marvel as it's contents mysteriously diminish during the conversation.
Roy: Does Myra live in a bottle you found on a beach after a space mission splash-down?
OMIO: The truth will set you free.
Lastly, after all things considered, I think it's probably a bad idea to give your 17 year-old son a brand new black BMW because you're scared of what he'll do if you don't. Especially when he's already been charged with criminal trespass. Call me old fashioned, but...
...It's tough to transport fire-power on a bicycle...Bd
Name: Clas
four dead in Ohio
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 at 00:39:24
Comments:
lefty: "Fall of '92" is mostly -5, +5, -10 chords, standard jazzshit. No mu-chords there, no no.
Roy/Myra, I must say, you two are very funny.
RubyBaby - I call you!
Name: TheStranger
the one and only original
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 23:28:04
Comments:
oleander,
i seem to recall someone posted something signed 'stranger' plus something else. i don't remember. i was feeling lazy at the time and didn't clarify that it wasn't me. but i never write all caps. i'm more of a minimalist. & don't worry. you probably won't get knifed in new orleans. just stay indoors a lot, don't tell anyone your ATM number & brush regularly.i am sick of remastered old albums. paying extra bucks to get the same session put through a different frog blender is not what i'm after. i want new material, get it? I'VE GOTTA HAVE IT, UNDERSTAND? damn, and here i promised not to use all caps.
Name: David
dr2241cage@mindless.com
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 22:53:59
Comments:
oleander: Geez. If all were armed, high school would be as it should. Aja should be online soon, if I have to drive there and
ensure it. Should not we all study Napolean? D.
Name: oleander
unpolypular
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 22:46:25
Comments:
Doc--They would never have given ME a license, and I wouldn't have the three most precious people in my life.
Ruby--I'll be gazing through the glass. Wistfully.
jk--is that emission or emulsion?
OMIO--neither have I. Let me ask around.
*--now jussaminit. The RUMOR was that he had a throat infection. We had some informal chatting about causes of voice problems, but unless you got some inside stuff, nobody here has confirmed that. Anyway, some polyps can clear in weeks to months with voice rest & steroids, but some necessitate surgery with a post-op period of voice rest, again sometimes to the tune of weeks.
fezo--next dream, I got your back with pen, paper, and dictaphone.
Bobby B--Damn. I am disappointed. Electronics will have to do.
Mu--it may be a matter of mathematics, but it's more chaos theory than probabilistics. (I think of the guy in Gravity's Rainbow who sat on Ground Zero because he believed that was the least likely spot for the bomb to land.) I don't think it's a matter of toting up behavioral parameters and seeing who gets the hi score. "Going postal" is not necessarily the endpoint. There are a spectrum and a time continuum of behaviors, all of which are part of a gestalt with nuanced warning signs. Trying to find that guy at the ground zero/ endpoint will make you a victim of the uncertainty principle. You cast a wide net for self- and other-destructive behaviors and maybe you'll do more good than you aimed for. The snappers may not have obvious, overt signs like a record, but if someone is paying attention to the things in the cracks between the scientific parameters--if there is a network of school, family, neighbors, law doing grassroots behavioristics--many of them will be found. We come at it from complementary foci.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 18:26:57
Comments:
Ole: Assuming I make it, I'd have to leave Friday morning.
Ya know, sometimes, I can see some merits to the concept of requiring a license to be a parent...
Name: STOP
beating around the bush
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 17:41:14
Comments:
***, So what you're saying is that Donald has polyps on his vocal chords and untill it clears up there will be no record or tour?
Name: *
*@*
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 12:34:36
Comments:
What are polyps, and how long do they take to clear up, anyway? How long before the singing voice returns to normal?
Name: RubyBaby
not home yet
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 10:57:06
Comments:
To everyone young or old, long or short, wide or narrow, cheerful or crabby alike: Hello!
fezo: bless your wise, albeit liberal, heart! for an attorney you are A-OK.
And may the lost lyrics find their way into another dream, revealing your creativity and poetic ideas, for which you have precious little time.DrMu: 3rd of the 5th must be DTMA. I had to go look at the vinyl, because my memory of that one is basically from the 8-track. It had a completely different order. I wore that 8track to a frazzle.
Myra: > You nailed it. Parenting is sometimes hard since so many things these days work against it, but one better find the love to do it anyway. Even risk social & possibly legal consequences. (Today, if you spank your kid, social services may come a-knockin) Nothing is cut & dried anymore. We're supposed to reason out everything with our kids and call it discipline. Forget discipline in the schools - the Dof Education stripped itself of all but token authority. Now we have insecure, unsupervised, very needy kids.
I'm sure this is no surprise for anyone who knows me - I know the answer for our violent children is found at the feet of the Prince of Peace. He tends to make broken things whole.RazorBoy: I'd be delighted to "not go" to the DanFest with you.
Here's what I think we should wear: our oldest, most comforatable jeans, you know the ones with worn out knees and a broken zipper. Then we put on our favorite t-shirt (untucked, due to the zipper), then we choose between our favorite flannel shirt worn open, of course, or our softest sweater. Your weather is colder, so you can have both. I will pull my hair into a pony-tail and don my BlackHawks ball cap. You have a ball cap, right? Sneakers. Now we eat what we want, drink what we please and relax to a homemade tape of our top 20 Steely Dan/Fagen/Becker songs. This is our world. No one can take it from us.
love,peace,joy-
rb
Name: OMIO
otr
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 09:18:18
Comments:
I've never been to New Orleans.. Maybe someone who knows could
tell the real story here.. Sometime in the old days, there was an area where both Afro American & Native American drummers began to congregate, & swap Drum Dialogue.. And from that combination of influences, both based in deeply spiritual & religious traditions, came some of the signature beats of jazz, such as the New Orleans Second Line, aka the Bo Diddly beat.. Those gatherings were eventually shut down 'cause the white folk were getting nervous about these guys getting together like that.. Any fact in that story?
Name: fezo
hesthemanwiththestagefright
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 06:59:45
Comments:
yet another Dan dream . . .
Walter and Donald are touring this summer (this was the point of my slumber when i realized i had to be dreaming), but need a lead vocalist. I'm picked. A hour before the show. I'm not worried cause I know all the songs but then Walter points to a cheat sheet on top of the piano which has lyrics to a bunch of unfamiliar songs. These are new, he said, we're doing them tonight.
Unfortunately at that point one of the cats decided my foot was his breakfast so I quickly awoke. From what I remember, the lyrics were pretty interesting. I wish I had thought to write them down.
Name: lefty
donsoven@headin .com
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 06:06:08
Comments:
Anyone caught playing hendrix air guitar righty is dead meat.
2. Earth: humans are the virus. Mayans say its all over on Dec. 23, 2012 anyway. Don't bother buying xmas gifts that year.
3. No official response from the Thomas Dolby camp on the rumours of his work with Walter.
4. Ben Folds' management said "Let me get back to you" on those rumours.
5. maybe we shouldn't buy the newly remastered CDs so that Dan will have to get the new product out quickly to make some dough. Donald would be pressured on the "new jewels front."
6. hey who has a tape of the 95 Roseland shows?
7. Hey you mu heads - give me the chords to Fall of 92, wet, and jack speed. thank you.
8. Denny will be playing in Plymouth, MA on july 3rd at a festival.
9. Has everyone been calling Andy McKaie at MCA for a rarities CD?
10. Now taking orders for Citrus Cloud Emulsion t-shirts.
11. Fat free treat. Mfluff and hershey's syrup mixed and refrigerated. Look on fluff's site for the way cool beach towel.
-thats it -"dismissed" - don't smoke if you got 'em
jk
Name: lefty
donsoven@headin .com
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 05:58:30
Comments:
Anyone caught playing hendrix air guitar righty is dead meat.
2. Earth: humans are the virus. Mayans say its all over on Dec. 23, 2012 anyway. Don't bother buying xmas gifts that year.
3. No official response from the Thomas Dolby camp on the rumours of his work with Walter.
4. Ben Folds' management said "Let me get back to you" on those rumours.
5. maybe we shouldn't buy the newly remastered CDs so that Dan will have to get the new product out quickly to make some dough. Donald would be pressured on the "new jewels front."
6. hey who has a tape of the 95 Roseland shows?
7. Hey you mu heads - give me the chords to Fall of 92, wet, and jack speed. thank you.
8. Denny will be playing in Plymouth, MA on july 3rd at a festival.
9. Has everyone been calling Andy McKaie at MCA for a rarities CD?
10. Now taking orders for Citrus Cloud Emulsion t-shirts.
11. Fat free treat. Mfluff and hershey's syrup mixed and refrigerated. Look on fluff's site for the way cool beach towel.
-thats it -"dismissed" - don't smoke if you got 'em
jk
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 00:57:00
Comments:
Farique Abdul - aha! You think I'm stupid! I would never give you the flightnumber. But I can tell you this much; the plane is leaving Stockholm for New York 12.50 on Friday 23 April.
Anne L Thomas - Hi girl. Welcome to this great world. You have a beautiful name... I guess your parents must have been very happy when they gave you that wonderful name. Have you heard about my dog? Let me know.
Q - "'Sue me if I play too long.......'"
I'm gonna sue you Q, but not because you're playing too long...
Name: DrMu
bottom of the 9th
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 22:54:12
Comments:
Ole: too much verbage on my part. Here's my point. We THINK we can identify the one's that are going to go postal, but the truth of the matter is that we, as a society, are fooling ourselves. If we can't even predict heart attacks reliably, which as you mentioned are better quantifiable than behavior (even though frankly the instruments is that area aare finally becoming more reliable and valid), how can we predict INDIVIDUAL outbursts?
Remember, our basis for prediction is Western science and medicine which operates by inductive reasoning for predicting population outcomes. Predicting tendencies and risks in a profile group is doable, but deductive reasoning is forensic here - and without the benefit of hindsight. It's a matter of mathematics really - complex systems and uncertainty of the original parameters and interaction with a dynamic and changing inputs. We can predict the chance of rain in the Asheville area given certain atmospheric conditions, but we can't say for certainty whether it will rain on your street until it actually does. I can say with good probablility that a similar incident will occur before the New One is released, but I couldn't predict where or who...even if I screened and interviewed all 18 year old high school students who partipated in the same behavior and played Doom and other gothic video games like they did. Certain things are instantly recognizable. I and I'm know you can spot a kid with fetal alchohol syndrome at 100 paces. But many people who snap have little or no criminal or pathopsychological record, and our understanding of the pathoPHYSIOLOGY is limited. Why didn't Florida allow Ted Bundy's brain to be autopsied and analyzed chemically or stored until hypotheses could be tested?
Having said all that our societies climate is ripe with moisture and a swirling confusion of shearing socio/amoral winds which create a high probablity of a meltdown vortex by other troubled youths soon.
Name: Original Lester
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 21:33:18
Comments:
F#- I love the Wu and Bru thing- an apt name for what I could best refer to as 11ths and maj 9ths, respectively, neither of which are true 11ths or maj 9ths, but have much the same idea and effect. When I say add 9 that does not mean a 9th chord, which needs a 7th. Adding 9 or 2 is basically the same thing in the case of the Mu. I still contend that Mu chords were hardly ever played in Steely Dan songs. I'll stay open to the possibility that I'm just not hearing it, but for now, I think we should marvel less at the Muing and more at the many other pieces (innovative chord progressions, Fagen's voice, 3-part harmonies, kickass musicians) which made the Dan's sound what it was (and hopefully still is).
Name: oleander
one more thing
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 21:25:53
Comments:
Wow. Heckuva near-triple-simulpost. I'm with you guys.
Sorry. One more thing:
Those who have died young/ finally need us no longer/ - you can be weaned
from things of this world/ as gently as a child/ outgrows its mother's breast.
But we who have need/ of those huge mysteries/ we who can sometimes
draw up from/ wellsprings of sadness/ rejoicing and progress
how COULD we exist/ without them?
--Rilke, "Duino Elegies"
Name: oleander
creation's spoiled darlings
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 21:16:11
Comments:
stevev--can't seem to get to you through the email. Bon voyage; leave us your page to remember you by; and think of us sometimes on your fantastic voyage.
Doc K--That's all I know of. When do you have to leave?
Q--Seeing the kind of drab, uninformative covers makes me itch to get at the life inside. Sweet what you said about all of us.
Bobby Boomer--well, wet my whistle. We'll save you a Bbooster seat.
Stranger--was that really you, with all those caps? Come on, take Ruby's cue, come see for yourself! BTW--I'll be #4 to say go see "The Matrix." And have you seen "Pi"? Great, and anyone who's had a migraine will squirm in their seat.
Krull et al.--Fla Rm, great. Doesn't anyone think that Mr. F might be capable of being cheesy without irony? Or anyway without a surfeit of it?
Bigger, OMIO--beautifully put. More stats:
Chicago--536 elementary school kids--25% have seen someone shot, 35% someone stabbed
New Orleans--over 90% of elementary school kids have seen violence; 70% have seen weapons used; 40% have seen a dead body
Boston--10% of kids at a primary care clinic have seen a shooting or stabbing before the age of six
3.3 million kids nationwide are at risk of exposure to domestic abuse annually, and up to 90% of kids of battered women witness their mothers getting abused
What does it fucking TAKE? I'm like any parent; I can see my kids at that school. Amid all the frenzy of finger-pointing, there are a few clear things. Yes. TAKE THE GUNS AWAY. The NRA are easy targets because they are blind fools. And they are just as guilty as everyone else of perpetuating this horror. Taking a lethal weapon out of the path of a naturally impulsive being is just common sense. And what has been done to the tobacco companies can be done to the gun manufacturers, who deserve their own circle of hell. Mu, human behavior is even less quantifiable than LDL or patterns of chest pain; I understand your analogy but I don't think it completely fits. Yes, all knowledge is in process, but there are fairly well-delineated profiles of kids who are at risk of violent behavior, and if you're around adolescents a lot, you get to recognize that look that makes your soul run cold. (The image of the male pack is iconized in our culture--"The Wild One," "The Wild Boys," "West Side Story." Even St. Augustine was in a gang, though all they did was steal pears.) To intervene with these kids doesn't presuppose squelching possible creativity or contributions. The solution isn't to lobotomize everyone in a Marilyn Manson t-shirt. The idea is one, to intervene individually to offer ways to deal with desperation, hate, hopelessness, and impulsivity that don't take others with you. And there are ways that work. To say that we "cannot hope to impact this on an individual to individual level" is to say that we cannot hope. And implies that what Myra & I do is hopeless. Of course, trying to work with desperate teenagers is already too late: it's got to start much earlier; there are already a couple of generations teaching their kids that violence is the way to deal with life, not to mention the media--journalism just going along with the zeitgeist. Two, enough lip service already about valuing children. Bullshit. Republicans explicitly and Democrats by omission don't give a shit about the future of children, and look where that's getting us. I don't have much faith in governmental initiatives, but we also cannot hope unless there is a club from above to force initiatives for kids. The simple things, like those you listed, as well as naked economics. A terrible day indeed when we have to talk about teaching parents how to love their kids.
Muzaque--One more rant & I'll shut up. I don't think Roy was being racist, just talking about where he's coming from. Where did jazz come from? Or the blues? Is it wrong for a white person to have reverence for the culture that gave birth to American music?
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 21:14:58
Comments:
Oleander - A "Razor Boy Shooter" would be Grand Marinier and and Bailey's Irish Cream - For all I know, there's probably a drink like that with another name - An "Oleander Shooter" would be anisette and butterscotch Shnapps. Ruby, I'd love to accompany you to the Dan Fest. Any ideas on wardrobe? As much as New Orleans strikes me as kind of laissez faire in overall mood, I would want to be ultra comfortable. Your impeccable taste would ensure this.
I have a fourteen year old son, who was quite alarmed at the situation in Littleton, Colorado. Due to the fact that there are so many areas of interests amongst high school student, subsequently more distinct groups or clubs are prevalent within school. There has to be a way to have these various organizations work together, and for the general student body of a school to become more tolerant to what each group is doing
and understand their message. Staff and students of all school organizations must come together to spread harmonie. Gun laws and police on high school campuses. All students have to feel that they are valuable to the school community; That is the challenge facing school administrators and other partners.
Name: Myra Eyefull
my heart is heavy
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 20:26:19
Comments:
I haven't posted in sometime because I had little to add to the conversation. In defense of "Roy,boy-toy", he was trying to be funny and clever, with his "white hand" comment but he never meant to imply anything racial about it. He frequently tries to make me laugh but after 25 years, I have heard all of his material and I just try to be polite and smile sweetly.
My thoughts about the latest shooting is that if guns were not available to anyone, kids would have to find another way to act out their rage. Being the mother of three great kids, I don't understand why any parent would not be aware of their children's activities,esp. if he was building up a arsonal of bombs in the garage. It's like shutting the door to the kids room because it is dirty. Parents need to be more involved in their children's lives. Find out what they listen to and try to engage them in conversations about their music and what is going on in their heads. And if you find that your kid is really mixed up and needs some help, find a way to get it for him/her before they completely shut down or do something horrible to someone else. I don't like everything my kids like or do but I do try to listen to them so I have a better understanding of what is important to them. Parents need to get invested in their children's lives, not turn them away when parenting gets tough. When I hear of an untimely death of a child,I want to take my kids in my arms and give them a great big hug and let them know that they are loved so much. I feel for these parents and they are in my prayers.
Myra
Name: frenchtwist
kelleyO13@aol.com
Location: washington, D.C. USA
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 19:06:47
Comments:
Florida room ... gives me the same dreamy vibe as goodbye look and babylon sisters (can't shake it)... snowbound, too -- vintage wry dan lyrics from the sub-basement -- but the sounds are sweet. i realize i'm a little late to the party, but was just reading the archives and just had to join in.
back to the black reality we call the nightly news ...
Name: Anne L. Thomas
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC USA
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 18:20:02
Comments:
I am so delighted to find this website. Although I usually listen to classical music, Steely Dan is the only popular music group I like. I have loved them since I heard Countdown to Ecstasy in 1973, when I was twelve (I had heard, but didn't much like, Can't Buy a Thrill two years earlier). I had forgotten about SD for quite some time, but I found two of their tapes (by coincidence, my favorite two - Katy Lied and Gaucho) when I was clearing out my storage area, and my interest has been rekindled. I plan to buy all of their recordings and I am so pleased to find that there are still people interested in them. I will be a regular visitor to this site.
Name: DrMu
mechanized hum of another world
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 12:53:39
Comments:
F#, Stranger: Thanks for the input. I only had limited training on the guitar then piano as a young'un - long enough to realize that I should have stuck with the guitar and my appreciation exceeded immensely my natural talent. Way back at my old school we put together though one of the shortest-lived bands. Yours truly was lead trying to make a "joyful noise" up-front, which was tough being a shy kid (don't really think I can sing anyway). We could handle the covers of the America and Eagles songs, but then when we tried to do the stuff we (the keyboardist and I) really liked - such as the Dan. That's when we ran into "the wall." I couldn't reach the high notes in Fagen's range well and the key *s and # and flats were tough (it's weird - now I can handle them much easier even though never really practiced except with headphones, in the shower etc.) and trying to at least emulate the musicianship. We poured over the Katy Lied songbook for a couple of days before we realized it was hopeless). In retrospect, we should have stayed with it and played for ourselves. Anyway, even though the details have become fuzzy over time, what I do remember about the myu (µ) chords (and those similar as mentioned by F#) was there ability to create a certain unique dissonance which helped formed the basis for the Steely Dan sound - a bit of cayenne bite with the gumbo-like fusion these alchemists had created.
OMIO, fezo: Well said. In times like this we wonder all too often who to blame and what to blame. Chapter 5, Song 3 of our hymnals teaches us that the dark side of human nature can possess any one, and it may be nearly impossible to truly understand what is going through the minds of the two trenchcoat mafians or Milosovich for that matter. Evil lives and lurks and festers and explodes. What can we do to minimize it's ugly expression? In a sense it's like assessing heart disease risk today (until the mechanisms are truly understood relating to free radicals (my opinion) - wait about another 10 years here): obesity, high LDL levels, family history, high intake of saturated and trans-fatty acids, high blood pressure increase the RISK of heart heart attacks but do NOT GUARANTEE a coronary. At the same time one recent paper suggested up to 50% of heart attacks may occur outside the bounds of "traditional" risk factors.
People often ask "could we have seen the warning signs?" before this tragedy happened. Well, I guess we could round up all the teenagers who listen to Marylin Manson (not a bad idea), but not all are murderers. Like many heart attacks, sometimes the classic warning signs like angina or very high LDL or cholesterol just aren't there. Hell, eggs are now good for you again (the body makes most of it's own cholesterol, and it's likely that the "heart" of the matter is oxidation of cholesterol and an inappropriate inflammatory, almost auto-immune reponse) One can build a profile for teenagers gone postal: alienated loser, poor relationship with parents, few friends, listens to weird music. That person could end up spraying a schoolground full of lead OR may go on to produce brilliant music. At the individual level, the individual themselves, the family, the community, and society in that order have influence AND responsibility. I think as a society, we cannot hope to impact this on an individual to individual level (see order above), but simply to minimize the RISK and that's all.
The principles are basic. For the best tutorial on what not to do with teens/youngsters with underveloped morale fiber and hormone-ridden neurochemical synaptic gymnastics, I suggest "Lord of the Flies" and "Pinnochio."
1) Parenting - the most important thing is to BE THERE. Teach them. Tell them why. Brainwashing works (even when they're rebelling)!! Would there be advertisements otherwise? Love and discipline and structure.
2) Cooperation with neighbors. Take a page from the elderly ladies I remember when I was very young outside Chicago. If a kid got out of line, they would grab ya by the ear and drag ya back home.
3) Cooperation with teachers - I constantly hear stories from the public schools about the lack of discipline and parents whining to the teachers that "their Johnny" could not be misbehaving despite being presented with a picture of his bunker. Many recent student teachers I've talked to decide to forego teaching because they get little support from parents and rubbery-spined school boards and principals, crappy pay, getting cussed out by the students, and curriculums which were designed by ivory tower academic snipers with only govenment grant $$ on their minds (I know from whence I speak).
4) De-emphasizing the excessive "self-expression" and self-absorption in ordinary people which emerged in the 60s and is just another excuse to belong to another clique in favor more cooperation with family, neighbors, community - common goals and ideals: citizenry. While, at the same time, recognizing and encouraging the rare and extraordinary, even when well beyond the 3rd standard deviation. Dammit, not all of us are fuckin' Mozart, Ellington, Becker, or Fagen! ...even though a FEW could be. We all don't have something important to say (me included). Enjoy art and self-expression, but get a life! It's foolishly attractive as famous people in the entertainment biz today got there though moxy and luck, not talent.
5) The media/Hollywood (the sad designs are always the same) could take more responsibility. My wife told me I missed a good Rockford movie which was a morality play against the excesses of the media. As pointed out here, this type of coverage will only INCREASE the risk of wacko copycats. "I can BE somebody, I can get coverage, I can play God!!"
6) Fezo, I can't believe as a conservative the manner of our disagreement here, but MORE GUN CONTROL! No hunter or pimply-faced kid needs a fuckin' AK-47! Handguns for adults with the proper background check whether concealed or not are OK. For hunters, it's bows and arrows and only if the deer are equipped similarly.Well, all of this is much easier said than done. There are NO GUARANTEES on the individual basis again especially as society has become too complex and chaotic for its own good. That's why I like Texans who generally stick to basic principles and have better common sense and understanding of the human condition than most. The trade-off is all this dang moo dung around here...rant, rant, ... scroll, scroll...
Name: fezo
braveryofbeingoutofrange
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 11:14:39
Comments:
OMIO: Great commentary. It pains my liberal soul to defend the NRA on any issue but in this instance I think they are too easy of a target. It's the de-humanization of us all which the media so relentlessly promotes through their content that leads people like those two losers in Colorado and even a bigger loser like McVeigh to take out their life frustrations on innocent victims. Where's the respect for humanity?
Name: Roy.Scam
No.one.night.stand.Be.a.real.cajun
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 10:52:20
Comments:
Q, Bigger D: Nice sentiments. One of the saddest realities in this existence is that the human brain can get damaged to the point that it sees logic in destroying arbitrarily selected people. I just hope that the attention from the last 24 hours goes toward the victims and not the soulless units that ran away from everything and left spite as their only legacy.
Musique: I accept your moral indignation and I retract; no political incorrectness intended. I didn't mean the admission of righthandedness and whiteness to be an insult to either of the other 12 percents. I belong to a misunderstood 12 percent myself. Help me out here, Myra; tell them I'm the good guy.
On the subject of sampling, [as in Black Cow/Deja Vu]: I heard a song on the Gospel Express radio show this morning that sampled John Lennon's "Come Together".
You children have a good time at the Danfess/Jazzfest and please report all dirty secrets to this, the best and most understanding of cyber-congregations.
RS
Name: OMIO
commie.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 10:33:23
Comments:
I live near Springfield, Ore., the scene of last year's shootings. Say what you want about guns, (and I know you will). But consider a news media that arrived within a couple of hours of the shootings, elicited imformation from the hospitals by pretending to be members of the victims family, & airing that info before the families themselves knew about it. Consider the same people keep showing up in front of Thurston HS to get those snappy, visually exciting pictures in front of the Scene of The Crime, sticking cameras & microphones in kids faces and asking "How Do You Feel?" CNN had a school shooting logo & theme music within 90 minutes of the tragedy, turning it into another commodity, a Production, a vehicle for yet more advertising (did we stop the commercials in respect or concern? Hell No..) I mean, they go from a weeping, terrified student, to a Carnival Cruise commercial in the blink of an eye.. They probably have extra time slots for sale during crisis coverage. Greater audience share with prices to match..
Which is the greater violation of Humanity? They seem to work hand-in-glove, the Media & the Murderers, and I don't know who's worse..
Yesterday was a monument to the endless De-Humanizations that characterize American life.. The movies & TV, video games, Pro Wrestling, Chuck Norris value system, where as Chairman Mao said "Power Grows From The Barrel of A Gun".. Or to simply kick ass..
Guns or no guns, it is a Violence Uber Alles meritocracy, the bloodless Little Murders of the Spirit that define our Tough Guys & Heros.. Even Ally McBeal gets violent.. The media weenies can never look deep enough to say We Are Corrupted.. It would be bad for their Positive Self-Image.. Until somebody can get past the histrionics & slogans to some deeper Truth, The Lies will always win.. And we'll all lose because of it.. Rant, Rave...
"After These Messages, We'll Be Right Back"..
Name: F#majadd2
form letter
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 10:19:37
Comments:
my primary inst. is guitar. not 2 get picky... re:mu voicing
harmonically the add 2 vs. 9th
get particularly tingly when thumb hits tonic and second simultaneously together. 2nd is not 9th when you are making little dots on staff and/or listening. also- hear tonic in bass as required for true mooing. cannot have Rikki without true mu.Wu-ing a little different. Wu opening chord i recall is a Dmaj over an E in the bass bottom. Wu not mu. relative to bass note mu form requires {get this} F#. but "leading tonal center" straddles lines here, much like the lyrics. not exactly mu.
E is second relative to Dmaj voiced above it? that's correct. suggest this be called Wu major form.next chord is Cmaj over an F natural in bass. different harmonically. intervals identified depend on what you call your tonal center. Todd R regularly employs this. Bruce Hornsby keeps this as paid staff member. Suggest call this the Bru major.
If you agree that playing a Bflat triad over a C bass is a C11 and not some swiss cheesed inverted Bflat 13th voicing then you might agree with the way i interpret these ink blots.
check out studio bulletin board on the dan site. make big fun.
next ink blot?RoyScam: it's okay as long as you use a left handed air guitar and flip it over rightly. In the mirror you'll be dead on.
muving along now.
fondly,
F#etc
Name: Farique Abdul
gotarocketinmypocket
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 09:50:12
Comments:
Mr. Clas
What did you say the flight number was for your trip with the heathen Rushdie?
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 06:50:05
Comments:
Really nice article in today's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette about Tom Scott who played sax on Black Cow:
http://www.post-gazette.com:80/magazine/19990421people8.asp
For those of you who would like to reminisce about the 1996 tour (esp. since it looks like the next tour will be next year), I came across an archive in The Detroit News while I was looking for something else:
http://www.detnews.com/1996/menu/stories/58185.htm
Hi Peg, good to hear from you - how is "The Dammed"?
Q, just let my wife wash that sweatshirt once - I swear she shrinks everything two sizes. It should fit me fine now, though, while I'm not quite up to Andy Katzenmoyer size - I seem to be needing larger clothes all of the time since I reached 40.
Make sure you Danfesters say hi to Chef Paul for me!
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 05:21:01
Comments:
I would like to second that sentiment.
This the finest GB beaming on this biggest radio tower of all time - the net.
Thoughtful and erudite folks(myself not included)like Bigger Daddy and Musique, and Ole, and the rest of the general population(no insult intended) who create a community that seems unrivaled in passion and insight(for a pop/rock venue !)
- particularly given that the "overarching,unifying" force(The Dan)itself is pulsing at such a low ebb currently, and for the last couple years and the longest hiatus before that, so as not really to propel the dialogue - no - it is the Guests themselves, drawn to the force( The Dynamic Duo)and themselves revealing their quality, which is clearly of high calibre and stong constitution and ethic- just as the Boys would have it.As with All That is Dan ( listen up Private Fresburg)- It's Quality not Quantity.
"Sue me if I play too long......."
Q
Name: Bigger Daddy
psalmpilot
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 03:57:23
Comments:
This forum is frequented by the some of the finest minds in the world. It's true and you know it. It's not necessarily the music that brings you here. Lately it's been the lack of music.
A terrible thing happened yesterday. A terrible thing happened today. A terrible thing is happening.
I may not have any answers but I do have the time to pause and reflect. Time to grieve. Our humanity is slipping away from us. We're making more money but the price of Billy's casket has outpaced our earnings. More of us are employed but the improvement in the jobless rate is mostly due to a bunch of undocumented workers killing chickens for Tyson. Slaughterhouses are slaughtering around the clock and I'll tell you right now that death and hopelessness are just as strong as life and liberty. It's up to us to give the world reassurance that we are the best it can produce. Every living thing counts on us. Whether we skewer it on a hook or grind it into hamburger, it must believe we know what we are doing. But we don't. We can't even stay married let alone raise children. 67% of all divorces happen when the mother is in her 1st or 2nd trimester. No wonder our children are killing each other.
Shakespeare perfected a literary device known as the "Climatic with the Climactic". You know, where the earth rumbles when the hero is stricken. Where the soft rain falls when the long lost lovers embrace. Using this as a guide, where do you think we are in the book? Turn your bright light inward and take a stand. No one will mistake your shine for a canon blast. These are not growing pains. These are 5-alarm fires and they are everywhere.
Unseasonably Warm. Again.
BD
Name: Musique
backhanded
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 02:05:18
Comments:
Roy,
I was expecting a man of your calibre to retract that unfortunate statement about "white hand" but you either went to sleep or to New Orleans.
Then again, you could be an air-head with a white man's degree.
12% of the Population,
Musique
Name: Clas
coul we jam ball Aja?
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 00:43:50
Comments:
Dr mu - I think "Rikki" and "Bad Snickers" has a lot of them too. Those moo-chords is a typicall westcoast pianosound. Listen to Joni Mitchell, Jackson Browne and others in the early 70s. As Lester said, it gives the music a warm and sunny feel.
Take a C-chord and put your thumb on the D-tune.
KatyDabFan - yes I'm coming. Flying from Stockholm 12.50 PM Friday. Changing in New York, then to Cincinnati (of all places), then straight down to New Orleans. And yes, I've been over there a couple of times.
There's only one thing that worries me. Salam Rushdie's gonna be on same flight as me.
Could that be dangerous Ole?
Name: Original Lester
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 22:43:08
Comments:
Alright- here's the deal with the damn "moo" chords. It is the same thing as adding a ninth....not exclusive to the Dan's work at all. Secondly, I don't think they used those chords nearly as much as that site might make one think. True, adding the ninth in that position certainly does create an "airy" and lovely sound. However, Don, Walt, and the session players had many other ways of producing such a sound. As for Dr. Wu, there are not many major chords in that song- I can only recall a Cmajor- that could be substituted with a moo (help me with the symbol, I figure it's alt-something). That song gains most of its mesmerizing quality from the piano and synth working like magic through a beautiful chord progression comprised mainly of major 7th, minor 7th, and 11th chords, none of which can be substitued with a moo, but all of which are very effective in producing beautiful tones (and there is, of course, the sax). Anyway, most will obviously take Denny's word over mine, but I would bet a lot of money (if I actually had it) that the moo chords only made very occasional appearances in their work. I'll go check on that C chord.
Name: TheStranger
fed up with charlton heston
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 22:41:00
Comments:
ruby baby,
didn't catch matrix, but you're about the 3rd person who told me to see it.dangeorus democrat,
this is a black day. the fucking nra is made up of yokels who think non-whites are going to invade their homes and take away their big-screen TVs so they've got to have machine guns and howitzers. they are cowards and liars and they're getting a lot of good people killed and they are no joke.
Name: TheKatyDanFan
"...actually six dots..."
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 19:47:31
Comments:
Clas: Thank You, Too! Are you really and truly coming to America?? And have you been here before? (I don't remember if you've ever said.)
O Michael C. Packard: You betcha! That Barbados trip is on the books and you're name is on it! Can't wait! Yes, we are smiling and enjoying the Dan, as always!
El Supremo: ILY, husband!
Just Katy :)
Name: Ruby Baby
gone2themovies
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 19:47:24
Comments:
Clas: I haven't spent much time under the headset lately. The reason being, I don't like to sit still long. I suppose it's time to tape everything and use a Walkman. I did listen to My Rival under the phones. That is OUTSTANDING for both ears!Stranger: At least one of these posters is not from North Dakota. Fresberg is only known to folks around...well, Fresberg.
I think you should try & get to New Orleans. Priceline.com can get you there cheap and you don't have to stay through a Saturday!
Hey, did you catch The Matrix, yet?I think DTMA would be a good song for that flick.
Lisa: I don't know you, except for your posts on here (which are mostly very witty) Have a great time in New Orleans, if you are in fact going! You and Oleander are excellent reps for SD girls.
rb
Name: Roy.Scam
rmoats@home.com (new address)
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 19:22:49
Comments:
Dr. (Lazy Thumb) Mu: Don't start with the Rose Darling jokes again; you'll get that North fellow all excited and the crack of dawn won't be safe around here.
Krull: Amen, "Florida Room" is a classic of pop escapism, especially as a narrative set up for "On the Dunes" and "Teahouse". Some of the best songwriting has a bit of cheese in the lyrics. I think Gershwin, Hammerstein, Arlen, and Carmichael would approve of the fromage content of all 3 of those songs. The thing that first struck me about it was the melody for the words "mile", "sea" and "latitude". Not since the words "door" and "shoes" in Black Friday had I heard such phrasing. How would one represent those particular notes in sheet music notation?(Let's see somebody answer that question within the framework of the Guestbook format.)
One more pointless question: When doing air guitar along with Hendrix, is it okay to do it right handed?*
RS
* or, for that matter, white handed.
Name: DrMu
there's one remoulade she's not cooking
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 18:12:58
Comments:
F#: The lazy right thumb...at last a musical "acumen" I have in common with Mr. Fagen (insert your own Rose Darling joke here). Denny Dias chimed in an amusing anectdote about "fretting" over playing µ chords on the guitar, that can be found @steelydan.com. I wonder if Dr. Wu (my fave if you haven't guessed) contains the most µ chords??
Name: dangerous democrat
is the hangman hanging?
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 15:36:05
Comments:
Re: the school shooting in Colorado. The country has to face the music. Round up all the guns. Get the guns off the streets. No more guns. Should have been done long ago.
A black day.
Name: peg
totzke@usa.net
Location: San Diego, CA
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 15:34:43
Comments:
Edd, Dr Mu, Krull, Huge Fan: Florida Room is my *fav* tune on Kama. I see, smell, taste and feel that song each time I hear it.
Name: Jay Pee Morgan
Dictating This From One of my Lavish Mansions
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 15:20:12
Comments:
Dear Mr. or Ms. Oimo,
Musicians are supposed to die friendless under a bridge. Otherwise they would get a bigger piece of the pie, which would reduce my share. What are you? Some kind of a commie?
Name: Edd
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 13:35:20
Comments:
Could Libby Titus's input to the lyrics have anything to do with the "cheesy" (I don't agree with that, but the song certainly has a more tradition romantic quality than most anything else) aspect of "Florida Room"...?
Name: DrMu
sunshower breaks
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 13:30:29
Comments:
Krull, Huge Fan: That's funny. I've gone back and forth between Walk Between the Raindrops and Florida Room a number of times. It's amazing how I can almost see and hear and smell the sunshower when the sax/horn break during Florida room...those cool breezes flashed with warmth and moisture breezes during late summer and early fall afternoons with the laser light sunbeams peaking through thos cumulus clouds with an azure backdrop behind those fluffy pillows of water. Just makes you smile. It was a good time for jogging and avoiding the heat. It just bakes here in Tejas during the summer (drought season) I miss that Florida weather sometimes. The swingin' horns of Florida Room (over the best groove on the album) kinda remind me of the little delayed interlude at the end of Sign in Stranger on Aia. Sort of a slightly funked up big band - Goodman or Dorsey.
Steve: bon voyage...stay in touch
Name: Huge Fan
Hi
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 13:02:34
Comments:
Krull, Nice report on Kama. I would have to say as much as I like "Florida Room" it is one of the only cheesy songs DF has ever wriiten. You could play both "Florida Room" and "Walk Between The Raindrops" for one hour stright, and I'd still be pretty happy.
HF
Name: Krull Berner
.kberner.b.stu.vu@artemis.valpo.edu
Location: Valparaiso, IN USA
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 11:55:16
Comments:
I'd like to take this opportunity to single out the best track on "Kamakiriad". If you were doubting, it is none other than what should be the most succesful song in pop history: Florida Room.
I'm sorry, but the tune is unstoppable. From the chord progression to the gospel-esque background vocals, from Fagen's whimsical keyboards to Walter's KICK-ASS bass work (which was SEVERELY underdubbed, perhaps Beck's own suggestion?), the song connects all with a type of euphoria... and some Jamaican dude.Anyhow, if this track is one you don't listen to, put it on repeat for about one hour, and if it hasn't grown on you, you must not be a true Danhead (or Fagenhead, to be exact). I believe that Kamakiriad was nominated for album of the year upon its release...it got snubbed.
Name: OMIO
otr
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 09:13:03
Comments:
A sad end for Skip Spence, original drummer for the Jefferson Airplane & Moby Grape.. Died at age 52 of pneumonia, after several years of living as a paranoid schizophrenic, sometimes under bridges.. His solo album "Oar" is a little known, but very good effort which is being re-worked by several other artists for a re-release.. He lived a tortured life of Insanity & died in poverty.. Perhaps Fresberg will be pleased, one less Old Fart musician cluttering up the world.. There are others out there, people who live in old cars, forgotten relics of a musical revolution.. Music is all they ever had.. They are prisoners of their own talents.. And once the buck-meisters get it, these people are discarded like disposable diapers.. Like Mary of the Supremes, they will die alone & broken.. Another grim snapshot of Reality in the Music Biz.. Next time you see somebody playing on the street, drop a dollar in the hat, OK?
"What A Beautiful World This Will Be..."
Name: Clas
King of Seoul
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 09:12:56
Comments:
Lisa - did you get it?
Has anyone ever noticed those great Becker-licks in the left ear on Hey Nineteen? Outstanding.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 04:07:07
Comments:
I'm nervous.
CINCINATTI, HERE I COME!!! AHHHHRGGGG!!!!!!
Edd, that was quite funny. Are you a poet as well?
Name: Musique
smellslikeguestbookspirit
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 00:38:20
Comments:
F#maj9,
I never meant to criticize your ability to emote. One can emote until it sounds like a yodel and still not tell the truth. I know. I am a hoarse liar stranded between two mountain peaks...
(Echoing slowly fades into the background hiss. Roger is tuning the white noise hoping for a very quiet signal to noise ratio...)
In other words, what you don't say is more important than what you care to share. Oddly enough, the more material you cough up the more silence there is to investigate.
It is best to be silent. Silent and Deep. Fuck, now I've blown my cover!
Dive, Dive, Dive,
Musique
Name: TheStranger
No Hoke Stirs
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 22:32:05
Comments:
Danfesters,
Upon your return, I will be curious to learn whether any of you actually exist. If so, please send proof you're not all the same 15-year-old prankster who's posting all guestbook messages except mine from a bedroom in North Dakota. Should I be worried?
Name: oleander
the carolina room
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 22:06:29
Comments:
Fresburg--Welcome to the GB, dear boy. You have had the bad, the mad, and the rad. Me, I'm sad that you misuse your senses and your talents to repeat that boring, musty naysayers' tune, and that, as have many practitioners of sneerage before you, you miss the point: there are many subtexts here, and Steely Dan is only the overarching, underpinning, unifying one.
Razor--oh, such party plans. And the Razor Boy? What would that be?
OMIO--Would love to have seen that Bela Fleck show. Saw him with Dave Matthews & at a small venue in town--both fabulous.
KDF--gotcha.
Stranger--ditto. You gotta have faith.
BF--That KCStar list had them in the "MAYBE" section.
MCP--nonono, one is all I can handle.
F#--that would be Frank Zappa. Yeeeeesss, you're talkin' my language. Laughed about the wheels on the bus... his first favorite was "Hard-Up Case." I'll listen to the BFF story if nobody else will.
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 17:57:08
Comments:
PS Luke you must be one of those guys who can't help looking over the urinal divider ! - spelled "i=n=s=e=c=u=r=i=t=y"
Q
Name: Q
Luke@urinal.com
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 17:52:23
Comments:
Luke, I've got a sample for you !
PS is this another chickenshit anonymous/nonexistent ID - haven't seen you around these parts before, "Luke".
Q
Name: Peter North
Would I care to explain....?
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 17:23:18
Comments:
Ruby- Talk about overcompensating- if you ever watch one of my scenes, you'll see how my balls already overcompensate for me.
Clas- I'll look for that one. That's pretty cool.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 17:08:30
Comments:
Dan Festers: OK, as I understand it, there may be a preliminary Fest event on Wednesday evening, April 28th, site to be determined, and another Fest event will be the Little Feat show with the young lady from Pinehurst providing party favors... Are there any other definite plans?
Name: Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes
here@altantajail.org
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 15:40:27
Comments:
Did you all see the way that house burned. Man, I'm not sorry at all! Those fiberglass hot tubs really heat me up. Hit me again and see what I burn next.
Now, me and Andre are back together, go figure. Besides how would I ever get that Falcon #88 tatoo removed? Steely Dan, we heard some other groups sampling their music and what they was charging, figured they must be good. Look for our special on VH1 this month! T-Boz and Chili say hi too.
Name: Kool Moe Dee
cover trippin'
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 15:19:23
Comments:
Yo that steely dan song is done by TLC and its rap version, so u white people will probably hate it.
Name: pat yack
payack@tu.infi.net
Location: jacksonville, fl us
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 14:59:35
Comments:
anyone heard of a woman or women's group doing a version of "do it again"??? email me plllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeze
Name: TheStranger
time will go fast
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 11:16:16
Comments:
started reading steve v. dan's farewell post (seeya s.v.d.) and it suddenly hit me -- we really are going to get a new cd. i can feel it. it's really coming. they wrote the material and now they're just playing with it.
oleander -- Oct. 4 (in time for xmas sales--the boys got bills to pay) hey, who pays for all their studio time, which is usually enormous. how's that work?
Name: Edd
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 10:52:06
Comments:
re: Fresburg
"New groups come along, make some music, then go away."
...and then there are those of us with the experience to recognize talent that lasts.
You will never have that experience. When you've spent your days chasing the flavor of the week, you'll find yourself a mile wide and an inch deep.
You've come along, made your music. Now go away.
Name: F#maj9
express.o@verbose.city
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 09:55:38
Comments:
Fresberg: there were a bunch of people all dressed up saturday night at orchestra hall politely waiting to hear some music that's about 300 years old. if they "got a life" there would be some pretty fabulous musicians out of work. but, what drew these people together? something which precludes receptivity to modern music? you can project but you musn't presume- not enough information. presence in this space does not preclude having life or openess to music o' '90s. rather, indicates sympaticos who speak fragments of same language & recognize timelessness as characteristic of greatness. i think you knew this. 25 years old is a good start. see below.
Steve V.D.: roger that. was about to include Ellington and Parker as eg. above. Gershwin? sure! after a hit of some 'downer surrealism' [W.Burroughs said?]. Point being: can you imagine someone covering a SD song 25 years from now? we'll just see.
and don't forget Jay and the Americans [suspect this is source of latin influences].interesting theories regarding state of culture abound. complaining about techno-society from a 400mhz nitro burning fun machine a bit like anti-fur guerrilla being careful not to accidentally spray red paint on their shoes. their leather shoes.
there is no away.Kamfire: you might enojy Redneck Manifesto [author Goad?]
Luke: didn't Anwar Sadat used to drink his urine?
jk: one more here
DrMu: mu moniker? friend sent me old [circa Kamakiriad] tape of Fagen on tawk radio received question regarding inspiration to employ mu major voicing. Fagen explained he has this lazy right thumb- kept accidentally hitting the second- but it seemed to work. [and how. those voicings are a stretch on guitar]
how's your thumb?Muzaque: {heavy sigh} drums sounded perfect to me- didn't care if they were 'programmed'. clas sez they're live- so does liner note. should have trusted ears, trusted you: not too tired to expend impulsive energy on tiresome burden before getting facts straight. and again. 4 outta 5? so, scroll back and re-read instructions; post your own confessions for amusement- ie other than those tacitly expressed in your #2. yup. please imagine a hand extended over a chessboard [Searching for Bobby Fisher reel 4 scene 11] instead of one trying to pull wing off a nightfly. k?
shake the hand, kid.Oleander:OTD musings most assuredly distill to your word: tantra.
people misunderstand it, think it's just a duration thang instead of body mantra and merging of soul [or, in OTD protagonist's case, diverging]. Can picture 4 yr old as 3 yr old making the wheels go round and round. {smile} i bet the kid never sang the 'Bus Song' again. and thanks for BF5 site. first heard of BF 'battle of who could care less'. got disc. gorgeous haunting evocative and rockative [aso struck a few nerves]. sappy BF5 kid story available on request [daughter met him years B 4]lisa: hope the golf war reaches a peaceful resolution while you are on hiatus. happy hiatus! may it feel so good on you. send word if GB should take up collection for bail [in case authorities discover body w/lime green pants on the back nine and suspect you made hole in one].
Name: Dr. Ofer J. Bitterman, M.D.
jonathan.paules@rcn.net
Location: Princeton, NJ USA
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 07:33:01
Comments:
Just found this site through another big fan, Dr. Blanks (aka Dr. Wu). Are you with me, are you really just a shadow of the man that I once knew?
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:39:09
Comments:
Hi RubyBaby - I sure will! Hope you had fun in church!
PeterNorth - "...here's the list of stuff I'm gonna need when we go into the studio:
6. Traci Lords tapes - they've seen those before too but it doesn't matter..." From the desk of Walter Brecker.
Bye Steve Dan, and remember, wherever you're going: three dots!
Name: Bobby Boomthistle
sonic
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 at 00:25:10
Comments:
Well! I hope to see you laddies and lassies at the Port of Snort, the Crescent Conundrum, the Lucky Lady Gone Bad, the Popeye's Empire, the Long March down a Short Pier. Don't forget the Jaggermeister!
So Smooth,
Bob
Name: RubyBaby
on top of old smokey @ll covered with cheese
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 23:08:40
Comments:
OhOhOhleander: that is the tackiest, wackiest, most ingenious idea for SD accessories ever! We should go shopping sometime...RazorBoy: Dubone and vodka - how sexy! It's really a shame you won't be at the Jazz Fest Steely Dan Party. Me either. Can we notgo together?
Fresberg: Just what I need hangin around my neck of the woods - an old gas bag like yourself. btw, Calvin Crest gives me a headache.
PeterNorth: I didn't know Peters had last names. I think you're just overcompensating.
Clas: sorry to make you think about taxes old buddy! Play Pompe's song and forget about those. Give oleander a hug for me, okay?
rb
Name: Peter North
Yes, I'm dying to be a star
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 22:42:27
Comments:
Clas- I can't find any letter to Craig, although I found a silly letter to Charles Schumer, a US Senator. Brecker seems like he probably has what it takes to appreciate my work.
Name: Luke
.
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 21:13:48
Comments:
Q... Give it up man! If you can't do it right...don't do it at all. Oh yeah, I got a sample of Fagen's urine... for you, $2,000
Name: Steve v. Dan
Signing Off!!
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 21:02:15
Comments:
Well 'dan fans it has been a blast, but after almost three years of posting here (and living in California) I am off to foreign lands with my beautiful wife and baby boy and am not sure if I'll be surfing the web like I use to.....
ciao and good luck to all you crazy folks still listening to great music....don't listen to the bullshit critics and dweebs who post ass-in-hine barbs: Steely dan were/are the most listenable and interesting bands to ever come along...they are a cross between Charlie Parker/the Gershwins/Duke Ellington and the best of pop/rock and even fusion.......yes it has been frustrating waiting for them to release something new but 'the future looks bright'......it's been fun posting here in cyberspace: keep stowing away the time;
oleander, tomas, good king richard, roy scam, q floridaroom, clas (and the rooster), st.al (pat),michael packard, old bull lee, countziro, pete fogel, webdrone, brian s., and anyone else still listening- and of course Donald J...and Walter C!........"he is here tonite, the one and only one....Mr. Steely Dan....and whatever!"
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Starry and Nice Night In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, U.S.A.
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 18:50:59
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!
Y'all been doing A-Ok, I s'pose, and are ready for the DanFest gathering at New Orleans in less-than two weeks, GREAT--know everybody is going to have a wonderful time, as this is an "event" in these "parts".
Hope to make it, but saving my vacation to meet "El Supremo and KatyDanFan" somewhere in the Caribbean (. . ."off to Barbados, just for the ride" . . .)
Enjoy, but the "remaster" of "Pretzel Logic", and "Katy Lied" will come out for my birthday, which is May 10th---so, Oleander, do we have another contest, kiddo??Saludos, and smile, Gang!
Michael
; )
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 16:27:46
Comments:
Oops ! Sorry for wasting precious Dantime !
ok,one more time !
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/fagebcdvid1.JPG
and
/Fagenvidcd.JPGThanks, Clas
BigFan - if I out grow it, its yours - but I will tell you it was sized for an NFL linebacker !!
Q
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 15:41:13
Comments:
Another article about 70's bands touring this year, including the dynamic duo:
http://www2.nando.net:80/noframes/story/0,2107,39563-63804-422202-0,00.htmlKansas City and Say: Yes, I know. My inside source tells me that indeed the new one and concerts won't be till the next millenium due to Donald's illness. Makes me really glad I made the effort to see them in '93 and '96. You just never know if that was the last show.
qwigibo: I like your style. Eubonics (sp?), or perhaps Yale, Harvard, Princton maybe?
Q: Nice sweatshirt!
Name: qwigibo
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 14:45:31
Comments:
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Name: qwigibo
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 14:40:06
Comments:
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Name: Stuart the Maniac
maniac@io.com
Location: Austin, TX, USA, Earth, Milky Way, Infinite Space, Inverting Vortex,
Speck of Dirt, Austin, etc., TX USA
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 07:57:04
Comments:
Hi! Nice page you have here! I saw Steely Dan in concert in Dallas in 1994--great show! See ya! :-)
Name: clas
@ örrk
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 06:09:47
Comments:
Q - that file couldn't be found.
Name: Q
FTPROOM
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 05:37:54
Comments:
mispelled(!) one of the entries in the upload itself- so rather than change it in the FTP server......
thus it is:
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/fagebcdvid.JPG
/Fagencdvid1.JPG
Only 30 of these were made and sent from Japan to US and Britian for sampling by Warner execs.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 01:15:36
Comments:
Peter North - so, if it was filmed maybe Walter Brecker is watching it now. Look at the letter to Craig on the official site.
Name: Peter North
This All Too Mobile Hard-on is Calling Out to You
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 23:37:48
Comments:
Clas- Can't remember, but it was a lot of fun.
Name: Say
it ain't so!
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 20:04:16
Comments:
Kansas City...So what you're saying (in some many words) is that the tour and the new one won't be out to at least 2000?
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 19:42:16
Comments:
May 11 !!!!!!! Great scoop !
back to the nostalgia:http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/thesweatshirt.JPG
and...
/thesweatshirt1.JPG
or, for something different- "in house" Japanese Warner/Pioneer promo for Fagen video/audio CD
/fagencdvid.JPG
/fagencdvid1.JPG
/Q
Name: Kansas City
Born and growin'
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 17:34:02
Comments:
Big Fan-
those advanced lists are based on holds that have been placed at one time or another on touring venues. Holds are placed all the time. They are also retracted all the time. Like when the lead singer looses his voice and the release date for the album is pushed back by a season or two. For instance.
Name: DrMu
round and round
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 15:13:55
Comments:
My man Sam sez that the re- re- mastered Katy Lied and Pretzel Logic CDs will definitely be in the stores on Tuesday, May 11. The orders are in! Enjoy J/DFest!
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 15:04:52
Comments:
Hi ya all in the Big Easy!
Some interesting news: Seems like the boys made the list of definate touring bands this year. From the Kansas City Star 4/15/99
http://www.kcstar.com:80/item/pages/fyi.pat?file=fyi/30dae8b2.415A little article about Lost Tribe - another Walter Becker Windam Hill band in the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com:80/excite/990416/t0000342071.htmlor
http://www.latimes.com:80/excite/990416/t000034207.html
Name: jk
seeya
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 09:47:05
Comments:
Man morons on every chat group . . . i'm outta here.
Name: kamfire
kamfire98@Kam'saddendum.com
Location: Doesitreallymatter?, NY USofA
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 07:06:08
Comments:
Had an addendum to the hilbilly top 25 list. In fact I got an e-mail containing 39 of those damn things.
26) You know, I couldn't find at Wal-Mart today.
Many more to post. Freburg or whatever the hell your name is FUCKOFF!!!
Name: Gaucho
Firm Puta
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 03:38:41
Comments:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhrggggg!
See? Now is Clas blaming everything on me!
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 03:13:54
Comments:
May I introduce my long time partner, mr Gaucho, to you?
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 01:36:49
Comments:
Did they film that shower Peter?
Name: Peter North
aka Bodhishotva
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 00:46:50
Comments:
Clas- That's Traci Lords (with an "s").
Do I know her? Hell, I gave her a shower, Peter style. I've also done some Swedish chicks in my day. Perhaps they are distant relatives of yours, no? Anyway, thanks for your concern.
Pete
Name: Original Lester
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 00:39:23
Comments:
Fresburg- for a moment there, we might have been able to take you seriously, but you double-posted on your first entry, you sorry fuck.
The True Companion is the first beer I drink every night after work.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 23:54:39
Comments:
KatyDanFan - thank you.
Peter North - have you ever met Traci Lord?
"Elvisfreak" - I aint laughing at any freaks. Not even the Charlie Parker- or Mozartfreaks.
Well, okay, maybe I'm laughing at Rolling Stonesfreaks.
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 21:53:33
Comments:
Sorry, but........
No I never did laugh at "Elvis freaks" - that no name talentless guy was AWESOME too - maybe you need some history lessons.
Do you no what "education"is derived from in latin ?
e -ducere
ducere means "to lead"
e - ducere = "to lead out of IGNORANCE"
Even Elvis understood that - just look at his cutting edge wardrobe in the '70's !!!!OK it's late - I'll go to bed, but..........o oh yah-
FUCK OFF FRESBURG
Q
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 21:47:19
Comments:
Hey Fresburg - FUCK OFF !!!!!!!!!
That's like saying "don't look at that Van Gogh guy's stuff - go look at that Andy Warhole shit instead!"
Name some bands that have put out susatainably ,good stuff in the last decade -- stuff that OTHER artists say is incredible. Do you even know the list of artists that credit the Dan as not only infuencing their own work AND lives , but also these artists consider the Dan's work to be(among) the pinnacle of what modern pop/rock has to offer the music/art world not only from a song writing standpoint but an execution standpoint - no you obviously don't !
Oh yeah and all those other "pre '1989" bands suck too, huh ?
Sure we wish the boys would loosen up a little but I don't think most of your better artists in any medium were concerned with commercial production schedules or panting fan's desires either.
Why don't you go hit the Nine Inch Nails or Marilyn Manson Guestbook or something where you'll be more in your element-
FUCKHEAD............Now back to our regularly scheduled programming..........
Q
PS pls excuse the usual lack of regard for spelling and punctuation in my haste.
Name: TheKatyDanFan
"...three dots..."
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 19:41:08
Comments:
WitchQueen: LOLOL.....I'm so far behind in my reading the GB but your list captured my attention -----that is too funny!!!Ole: Do I still have time to pick......October 22nd?
To all meeting at the DanFest.....Have an awesome, wonderful time!!....I can't wait to read about it when you all return!
Just Katy :)
Name: J. Fresburg
calcrest76@aol.com
Location: Fresno, CA USA
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 16:52:03
Comments:
I saw Steely Dan in 1973 when they mattered. Attention Dan freaks: Get a life! You are acting like the losers in any number of Dan songs. "They got the Steely Dan t-shirts. . .they're outrageous!" Time to move on. Becker&Fagen don't wanna play the same 25 songs; they just know you'll be camping out all over the country with your 100 clams and you're undying, unrequited devotion. These are two fifty somethings looking to pay bills. I suggest you jog down to Tower Records and get something recorded in this decade at least. Dance Hall Crashers, or Face to Face or Flop. Even WeddingPresent. New groups come along, make some music, then go away. Figure it out. You laughed at Elvis freaks 25 years ago, now look at you.
Name: J. Fresburg
calcrest76@aol.com
Location: Fresno, CA USA
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 16:51:47
Comments:
I saw Steely Dan in 1973 when they mattered. Attention Dan freaks: Get a life! You are acting like the losers in any number of Dan songs. "They got the Steely Dan t-shirts. . .they're outrageous!" Time to move on. Becker&Fagen don't wanna play the same 25 songs; they just know you'll be camping out all over the country with your 100 clams and you're undying, unrequited devotion. These are two fifty somethings looking to pay bills. I suggest you jog down to Tower Records and get something recorded in this decade at least. Dance Hall Crashers, or Face to Face or Flop. Even WeddingPresent. New groups come along, make some music, then go away. Figure it out. You laughed at Elvis freaks 25 years ago, now look at you.
Name: Loosely Woody
barmitzvavavoom@hood_o'man
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 10:55:58
Comments:
so 2 b's r buzzn, hovern ubuv the cups of luvn @ li'l rikety's
inisheashun. 1 sez 2 the duhthurn, ya gotta gitcha a yarmuckle,
udderwize, day'll tink yur a wasp.upollugeez to gk.
WoodyManHood.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch tonic room
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 10:06:20
Comments:
Razor B: The "Don't Take Me Alive" recipe consists of a 1:2 ratio of Cinnamon Schnapps to Everclear (grain alcohol)!!!
Name: OMIO
otr
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 09:49:32
Comments:
Sounds like everyone's getting all revved up for the Big Too-Doo.
Hope you happy participants keep a few posts coming to ease the pain of those in absentia.. And keep a few selected pain killers
within reach.. Choose your poisons carefully & don't let the highs drag you down..Saw David Grisman & Bela Fleck.. Fun Show, good jazz & only a couple of excursions into Dueling Banjos.. They both sat in on each other's set, so I suppose it was inevitable..
Name: Zeke
It's Fest Time!
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 08:26:30
Comments:
Jazz Fess '99 is here!!!
Thank God!
Weather: Freakin' awesome. 72, breezy, sunny, orgasmic.
Festival do's and don'ts...
do's:
-IF IT'S GOOD TO YA, IT'S GOTTA BE GOOD FOR YA!
-whatever it is your doin', start early and do it all day and night!
-clothes - there is no dress code, funky hats are nyrmuhl
-food- try it all!, "it's all good"
-be prepared for sunburn
-be prepared for rain
-remember where you parked your car
-plan to see Steve Riley and the Mamou Playboys
-if someone approches you and says in a low voice "acid?", walk awaydon'ts:
NEVER DO IT WITHOUT THE FEZ ON!!!!happy fest for those who will make it, and I hope someone will try to send word back reports to this page.
Zeke out!
Name: Clas
@ arbete
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 04:34:13
Comments:
Oleander - I'm coming in Thirsty.
Name: Clas
no he can't slip on the floor
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 04:30:16
Comments:
lisa baby! I'm sorry for that confusatation, "golf" is "gulf" öh?
Name: Clas
in soberspace
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 at 00:07:16
Comments:
RubyBaby - don't remind me about those taxes. I had to make a choice; Nårlins or pay the taxes.
Oleander - are you coming in Thursday?
lisa - as soon as I remember to bring the number to my job (computer) I'll send it to you.
I spoke to Slidell last night - it's like a Swedish summer there now. Nice.
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 21:48:34
Comments:
Oleander- I tried to post about a week or so ago and couldn't get access to the GB - But I have an idea for the Dan Fest to get it into the SD Mood-
How about ice breakers (don't groan please) where everyone puts one or two lines of a song on a badge or pice of paper and pins it to their shirt, and everyone circulates around trying to guess what their Guest Book handle is - slightly smalzy, but perhaps some levity.
How about a "Shooter Contest," where everyone puts together a concoction of liquers and gives it a name, of course is has to be a SD song, album or character/place from a song and somehow those able to last through the preliminaries, picks the best one, or based on creativity. Like a "Ruby Baby" shooter might be Dubonnet and vodka; A "Green Earing" could be Creme de menthe and and peppermint Schnapps. Whatever happens, I hope you all have a great time.
Finally, someone has to arrange the evening out where the haunts you frequent is based on the live music offered, starting out light, and building to a crescendo, where everyone is dancing and sweating to some really great soulful music.
Signed - Insanely jealous north of the 49th parallel. Razor
Name: oleander
yeux, tapes, poisson, risons
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 20:37:45
Comments:
RuBay--Try this: their faces in the pic on the Official Dan Page are just about fingernail size if you print them out. Then all you need is a little superglue and some clear polish....
lisa--there's many a slip twixt cup and lip. That's your chance.
Doc K--Awright! Will e you info. AND ANYONE ELSE WHO'S COMING. We'll be there Thurs. pm, in time, I believe, for LF. Zeke has some plans....
As I--Aw, come on. Bring on the tabloid shit!
GKR--"Commitments"--great.
F#--great story about your son. We gave ours the Steely oeuvre when he went away to school, knowing that then he could face anything. Another soppy kid story: when DIA came on in the car the other day, the 4-year-old said, "That used to be my favorite song when I was three."
Roy, Mu--Hey, you tantric yogurt guys--read what F# said about OTD! I rest my case!
Schwinn--Three! I'm just doing my job! I try to make a bad musical joke and look what I get.
Betting pool stats at http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/thepool.htm
Music notes: Went to see Kirk Franklin and CeCe Wynans at a sold-out hall. Some soul-shaking grooves... and a choir full of people who sang like r & b angels.
Name: Peter North
Each time I see you, baby, my wad flies
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 20:23:39
Comments:
ruby: I've used it so much in my career that I should never even have to worry about losing it. Painful thought anyway. I'm still going forth with my cumshot strike, because I have found a higher cause in my longing for a new Dan CD. On that note, all of you scurvy brethren are welcome to join me in my strike. Imagine it- when the CD is finally released, the streets will flow with gallons of celebratory fluid- and I ain't talkin about champagne.
So long, hey thanks, my friends,
Pete
Name: ruby baby
use tax, poison, treason, intently squeeze 'em
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 14:04:31
Comments:
"The taxpayer is someone who works for the Federal Government but who doesn't have to take a civil service examination." (Ronald Regan)clas: today is tax day here. Those of us who are not getting a refund wait until the deadline (april 15) to send it. Those getting a refund (because too much was already taken out of their income), send it as soon as they can.
PeterNorth: Ever hear the phrase Use It or Lose It?
rb
Name: jk
kcw3001 @aol.com
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 07:31:41
Comments:
Absolutely! We got the box set out by bugging Mr. Andy McKaie at MCA in Sunny Southern Calif.- So I think that Everyone should call an/or write to him and ask for more rarities.
jk
there are not enough people on this chat - tell your friends.
Name: Henry Block
taxinhooters
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 01:31:50
Comments:
Silence is golden
Name: Peter North
Stowin' away the slime
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 23:41:36
Comments:
I've decided not to shoot another load until there is a new Steely Dan CD. In other words, no new release from Pete until we have a new release from the Dan. When they finally get it out, be sure to keep an umbrella with you while you celebrate....unless you're one of the many who love my man goo dripping from your chin.
Counting Down to Ecstasy,
PN
Name: surfer
@patsucks.com
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 23:34:38
Comments:
JK- Let's get back to the boxed set. Everyone's gone to the movies? You know there had to be more/better ones then that they left off. You're right jk "Two Aganist there fans" Why don't they like us? Next tour, Walter on bass, Vivino and Zingg on guitars, 5 nights in Bearsville!
Name: jk
same
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 16:34:54
Comments:
so sometimes telemarketers advertise in the help wanted section of the newspaper - I say bombard them with calls. "Hello, I'd like to tell you about my favorite band - Steely Dan. . . they have a Cd coming out called "Two Against Their Fans" sometime in the 3rd millenium.
jk
Name: Q
Drop in the.............
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 15:46:44
Comments:
Your right - I would'nt pay $20 to see Tom Petty !!!!!!
But I would pay $1000. to see DF,WB Skunk,ER,Gadd(sober),Carlton,Kahn,etc. together at The Met !!!!!
= Art VS reproduceable (forgetable) commercial radio anthems(granted some good hooks, but nothing else to sink your mind/soul into)
Q
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 07:49:17
Comments:
For a laugh check out the new issue of Mojo magazine. It has the results of a poll on the 100 greatest singers of all time and guess what Donald Fagen came in at #80 !!
(p.s. John Lennon was #1...)
Name: Jed
movie stars
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 06:53:52
Comments:
Wow Fezo.. $47.50 should really blowout your bank account. Why don't give Q a call, maybe he could treat, afterall $47.50 is just a drop in the bucket for him.
Name: fezo
@placeinthesun
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 06:20:55
Comments:
so when did concert tickets get so high?. Two or three years ago I saw Tom Petty for $20 up in the DC area. Great seats. Great show, would love to see him and the Heartbreakers again, except for their show this summer, similar seats are now priced at 47.50. Screw that.
ruby: i get it. i think
Name: Musique' Loaf
meatybeatybigandreedy
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 23:52:18
Comments:
F#maj9: So, you're surfing?
Four out of Five ain't Bad,
ML
Name: Clas
it's Albright, I think we're gonna make it
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 23:50:04
Comments:
Name: DrMu
@thequarter
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 20:34:46
Comments:
Coolie,
Louisiana lexicon. N'awlins natives say:
pecans = p(schwa)•Kahns´ (accent on 2nd syllable)
pralines = prah´•leeens (accent on 1st syllable) - soft or hard creamy brown colored candies with pecans, molasses and brown sugar, butter. Awesome.
crawfish = craw•feesh (each syllable with equal emphasis). They are not crawdads in South Louisiana - perfect time now for boiled crawfish with corn and potatoes. Low fat (despite what the natives say) - the yellow stuff is pancreas (bon apatite)
standard greetings: 1) Where y'at. 2) Awright bra' 3) show us your tits
Name: Ruby Baby
shangh@i.confidential
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 17:21:28
Comments:
As You Were Saying To Everybody: Thanx. I've got it now!Behind the Music - BAD fill-in-the-blank BAD.
Album Classics - GOOD individually unique and made in England GOOD.
rb
Here's one in honor of fezo:
In a recent study, the government administered weekly doses of viagra to an equal number of doctors and lawyers.
While most doctors acheived enhanced sexual prowess, the lawyers simply grew taller.
Researchers are at a loss to explain...
Name: coolie lover
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 17:14:29
Comments:
Wow we got a post from the man who's favorite Cd of all time is by a band (guy?) called Horse !!!
Man no Dan tour. Maybe they will sit in with Denny and Dinky. I should really get you all the info on that tour soon.
Walter (bass) should do a quick tour with Rosie Vela on keys, T. Dolby on Keys, Jim Gordon on drums and Drew Zingg on guitar. Peter Max with the tour posters - Baby!!!
Hey, I'm starting a new political party - the radical centerists. Anyone care to join?
Everyone here should send Pete Fogel $1 right now. 4 of those new Pennsylvania quarters would be nice.
All gum should be illegal.
If you missed George Martin tour -you missed the chance to be in the presence of greatness!
Anybody know what Holly Palmer's up to? tell her to e me privately.
Is it peCAN or peCon?
Who wants to feel my fabric?
cha cha cha
jk
Name: coolie lover
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 17:14:15
Comments:
Wow we got a post from the man who's favorite Cd of all time is by a band (guy?) called Horse !!!
Man no Dan tour. Maybe they will sit in with Denny and Dinky. I should really get you all the info on that tour soon.
Walter (bass) should do a quick tour with Rosie Vela on keys, T. Dolby on Keys, Jim Gordon on drums and Drew Zingg on guitar. Peter Max with the tour posters - Baby!!!
Hey, I'm starting a new political party - the radical centerists. Anyone care to join?
Everyone here should send Pete Fogel $1 right now. 4 of those new Pennsylvania quarters would be nice.
All gum should be illegal.
If you missed George Martin tour -you missed the chance to be in the presence of greatness!
Anybody know what Holly Palmer's up to? tell her to e me privately.
Is it peCAN or peCon?
Who wants to feel my fabric?
cha cha cha
jk
Name: coolie lover
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 17:13:58
Comments:
Wow we got a post from the man who's favorite Cd of all time is by a band (guy?) called Horse !!!
Man no Dan tour. Maybe they will sit in with Denny and Dinky. I should really get you all the info on that tour soon.
Walter (bass) should do a quick tour with Rosie Vela on keys, T. Dolby on Keys, Jim Gordon on drums and Drew Zingg on guitar. Peter Max with the tour posters - Baby!!!
Hey, I'm starting a new political party - the radical centerists. Anyone care to join?
Everyone here should send Pete Fogel $1 right now. 4 of those new Pennsylvania quarters would be nice.
All gum should be illegal.
If you missed George Martin tour -you missed the chance to be in the presence of greatness!
Anybody know what Holly Palmer's up to? tell her to e me privately.
Is it peCAN or peCon?
Who wants to feel my fabric?
cha cha cha
jk
Name: Fnatural(add notes PRN)
nocturnal.emissions@live.net
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 10:12:34
Comments:
Musique,
busy day here at the salt mine, not sure if your post is rhetorical.
for now will confess as follows: I was on a roll!
[i'll have the seedless rye)
I gotta be me (look up effusive, ebullient, and happy) i also type very fast. fine with your reaction, no offense taken even if intended. i don't like everyone either.
was feeling great about encounter with son, extremely good medicine. since it it had a steely dan coating thought this forum might appreciate. hopefully, others will. it made me feel fabulous to (consistent with your metaphor) present emissions.
no pretenses. enjoy semantics immensely. am a flow of consciousness sort and escpecially so when i feel i could make love to the entire planet. such a good feeling, i highly recommend it. some people are full of life, others commit emotional larceny- although i could be wrong.can respond point by point if desired. #4 might be a pivotal point for you?: "your child was inspired by programmed drums".
ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!!! (didn't mean to shout).
have you #heard# the programmed drums in Surf and/or Die? go listen. I'll wait.
it's an amazing program. maybe you are not with the program and feel it somehow lacks virtue because it's a synthesizer? i can be moved by sythesized sounds. Get a hold of Jazz From Hell by Frank Zappa. It's all programmed. Yes. even the drums. During Night School I believe I hear a sample of a thousand staple guns being fired like Tchaikovsky's cannons. Exquisite (and much giggling)
A synthesier is a musical instrument controlled by a human being expressing themselves, no? You are so correct: My child was inspired by a drum machine. He also went downstairs to the play room and did the life immitating art thing- it's a very hip drum part. You know, it can be written out on sheet music. Drum parts. People in orchestras read 'em. They are being programmed by the composer to execute the little dots.So, would you elaborate on the part of tiresome burden provided by point #4?
I sense you meant this as a bad thing...not inclined to get out safety goggles to protect eyes from flame
doesn't seem to be in my nature. disagreements can be big fun.
will engage if so desired. its a public forum and i was waxing enthusiastic. risky biz? nah. we're all pink on the inside.
and then there is the little scroll arrow on the outside. ciao 4 now.David (real name, but there were already 3?)
Name: Walt
on the new one?
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 08:58:28
Comments:
JUDAS!!
Name: John Huang Silver
yellow peril
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 07:14:56
Comments:
Old Chinese Proverbs
"Man who run in front of car, get tired.
Man who run behind car, get exhausted"
"Passionate kiss like spiders web - soon lead to undoing of fly."
"Foolish Man give wife grand piano. Wise Man give wife upright
organ."
"Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok"
"Man who scratches ass should not bite fingernails."
"Panties not best thing on earth, but next to it."
"War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left."
"Wife who put husband in doghouse soon find him in cat-house."
"Man who fight with wife all day, get no piece at night."
"Man who tell one too many light bulb jokes soon burn out."
"It takes many nails to build crib, but one screw to fill it."
"Man who drive like hell, bound to get there!"
"Man who lives in glass house should change in basement"
"He who fishes in other man's well often catches crabs."
"Baseball is wrong, Man with four balls cannot walk."
Name: Clas
The GuestBook Look
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 05:45:08
Comments:
Musique: "Your child was inspired by the programmed drums on Surf and/or Die." The drums are sure played by a drummer on real drums on that song.
Lisa - yes I will SugarHoney! Please take me along when you Slidell on down!
And, wasn't you talking about the Golf a while back?
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 05:37:29
Comments:
Is this link to the same "Classic Albums" series that the SD Aja show is being done by?
http://web.cln.com/archives/charlotte/newsstand/c080898/music.htmDragon, yes indeed HI, not HA - and probably appropriate. Obviously, I've never sent anything to Hawaii, although I have been the recipient of some material from there. Now if I made that mistake with Michigan (MI) and accidentally put MA (Massachusetts), my letter would never get delivered. Since there is no HA in the state postal lists, I figure, if I made that mistake on a letter it would end up at the White House, since they provide the most laughs.
Name: lisa
selling the dr@ma
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 05:11:38
Comments:
fezo: there's only one hooker that openly confesses to being a prostitute...other women just troll the country club bars hoping they'll find a rich old man to hump and marry...now what do you call them again? oh yeah- whores.
doc kelly: i will indeed...i'll send you hotel info, etc in email...does this mean you are going to make it? what do you want to plan as our opening night festivity?
clas: send me the phone # of your friends in slidell and i'll call when we arrive (should be tuesday morning)...and please elaborate on mexican golf?
Name: Musique
push, push, in the bush
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 01:12:23
Comments:
F#maj9: You were entertaining for a bit but now you are a tiresome burden. Here's why:
1. Oleander wants to send you a shirt.
2. Kinky thinks you unworthy of a slam.
3. You took a cheap shot at Kubrick.
4. Your child was inspired by the programmed drums on Surf and/or Die.
5. You impersonated a meteorologist and a poet.
Shall I continue or will you fess up?
F Nocturnal,Musique
Name: Clas
Slidell a little lower now
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 00:38:45
Comments:
Philmy Noir: thank you very much.
Lisa: Tuesday? 27th? Fill me in please! I KNOW NOTHING! (öhh, you don't have anything against the Mexican Golf, äääh?)
Nerium Ander: That was funny!
RubyBaby: Hey, that was funny!
Name: Surfer
@Kevinbohare.com
Location: plymouth, MA
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 22:33:28
Comments:
Helllllo jk, Only Dinky can give us the Seattle tape, right? (What's with the 800#?) Maybe he has a really good Kulee tape some where around as well. I bet ya Walter's new one comes out before Steely's new one does. I predict Herey's not so lucky this time around and the hats perfectly round. To top it off the killer song is called Surf an/or turf. Boy am I hungry. Where's Denny? Veeeeeery weird.
Name: F#maj9
my generation
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 20:52:11
Comments:
Just imagine having your dan discography kidnapped. i mean taken by your kid. mine has done this [beaming with fatherly pride- or perhaps there has been another 'incident' at Fermi?]. Plan:coax him back with 11TOW; he hadn't heard this. very cool music bonding thang. Kid is drummer. Cheated. Played him surf and or die first. Now I have his attention... eyes widened the way he looked the first time he heard Green Earings. You know the look.
I say: remember i told you about this guy who blows sax lix on guitar? Lucky for Henry, the kid now loses a little bladder control. He's right where i want him.Presented SD/DF solo/WB solo to him as an interesting trinity:
the farther, the stunned and the holy colaborative spirit?
[just celebrated orthodox easter, give slack?]That was spontaneous; the kid propitiously walked in as On the Dunes set over the ocean [with an ending i feel is an aquatically antithetical Aja- subtle, probing, mournfully soulfull uplifting with a lot of negative ions (i have been on those dunes)- the dialectical opposition to Steve's Gaddasm (like an orgasm but with two sticks)- the slow hands, the easy touch, the cymbals sound like waves which sound like cymbals(unless speakers outta phase,accounting for status cymbals?]Each equally affective in their respective effective ways- understated dunes mood azure cirrocumulus lover's lightest touch (like an orgasm with but two clouds, soft driven slow and continuous with a backbeat that's expansive and easy to master)
Knowing the way the kid's mind works- must provide de rigueur de-straction. Tantelleh, i say [i'm not greek orthodox]like some new language, boychickle, these here 11 tracks o' whack contain TWELVE tracks. Maybe one of them is not...
a track of whack? so, take a whack and find a track that lacks. [i, btw, look very whackish- fortunately, the boy looks like his mamma-san] He is intruiged. That's the way his mind works. He drops his guard. Leaves disc case unattended.
But i am his father. Instead of recapturing SDish stuff leave note threatening to rent his room unless he returns discs by end of semester. He'll have "made backup copies" by then. I can wait. Then i slip a little something into the case. I gave him Bill Evans, T.Monk, C.Ives and Harbor Lights, Bruce Hornsby.
Tough love. That's my job.peace on earth
[not some strangelove allusion crude kubrick cheap shot] but,
a solemn prayer for peace?
Fnatural
Name: GoodKingRich
now with sound...
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 20:32:23
Comments:
...which reminds me, one more name to add to the Celebrity Dan Fan list. Caught Roddy Doyle being interviewed on Sun eve, he of The Commitments trilogy fame (as well as the excellent Paddy Clarke and The Woman who Walked into Doors). On being asked what his taste in music was late 70s he replied Dylan, Springsteen, Little Feat and... Steely Dan. Not that I should be too surprised, but it's always good to know when someone you admire has similar tastes.
TTFN
GKR
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 20:07:19
Comments:
Ole: Yes, Thursday evening at Little Feat... if not Wednesday evening...
Zeke: Will there be any unpublicized jams at any clubs on the Wednesday evening before Little Feat? My guess is YES! We need to figure out where.
Lisa: So you'll be in town by Tuesday night?
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 16:50:09
Comments:
so is there a DATE yet for the show, whatever it may be, on VH-1???????
Name: As I
Was Saying...
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 15:24:04
Comments:
"Behind The Music" is produced by VH-1. They are uniformly horrible, and follow the same script:
Star struggles against the odds in the 60s/70's/80's/fill in the blank:
star makes it big Big BIG:
star's life utterly crumbles&127;due to drugs/car accident/death of parent/acne/fill in the blank:
star lives in shame/obscurity/bankruptcy/fill in the blank:
star comes back in late '90s with shitty album for which this show is the only publicity.
On the other hand, the Classic Albums shows, while also more than occasionally shitty, have the stated purpose of documenting the making of specific albums, leaving out the tabloid shit.
Name: jk
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 15:23:46
Comments:
AHHHHHHHHHH! D&W I need a dan fix.
How about a walter EP?Or live in seattle- available only by 888 number?
Have kenny vance put out copies of kullee, can't write, and others on the Smuckland label.
Man, I am creating some beautiful "Tye-die" shirts for my new band CITRUS CLOUD EMULSION. POPADELIC BAYBE.
Hey donald - How about some small club dates. NYC, woodstock, Northampton, MA?
What ever happen to "The Hot Shot" publisher (like he ever shot hot!).
jk
Name: To
Everybody
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 15:14:31
Comments:
Listen: the Aja show is part of the "Classic Albums" series. They are produced by a company in England and their usual outlet in the states is VH-1.
Name: Ruby Baby
Blonde.J@neBlonde
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 15:02:14
Comments:
Hi danfans!Kinky: OK, (Behind the Music of) The Making of Aja, or Steely Dan: (The Making of) Behind the Music. I don't see a lot of potential for much difference, other than one would focus on Aja, the other would focus on everything. So, if I'm missing something [I'll assume I am], why don't you explain it to me? That's all I ask. Go ahead, address it to my inner-blonde. I learned a while back not to take myself too seriously.
WitchQueen: When it comes to amusing us with humor, You Da Bomb! Here's one for you:
The Top 25 Things You Would Never Hear A Redneck Say:
25) I'll take Shakespear for 1000, Alex.
24) Duct tape won't fix that.
23) Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken.
22) Anybody seen the sideburns trimmer?
21) You can't feed that to the dog.
20) I thought Graceland was tacky.
19) No kids in the back of the pickup- it's not safe!
18) Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Moonbeam.
17) Honey, did you mail the donation to Greenpeace?
16) Hey, there's an episode of Hee Haw we haven't seen.
15) Do you think my hair is too big?
14) I'll have grapefruit instead of biscuits & gravy.
13) Honey, do these bonsai trees need watering?
12) Give me the small bag of pork rinds, please.
11) Deer heads detract from the decor.
10) Spitting is such a nasty habit.
9) Trim the fat off that steak.
8) I believe you cooked those collard greens too long.
7) Tires on that truck are too big.
6) I'll have the arugula and radicchio salad.
5) I've got 2 cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.
4) She's too old to be wearing that bikini.
3) Checkmate.
2) We don't keep firearms in THIS house.
1) Elvis who?rb
Name: fezo
hopeshesnotcommunicable
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 13:27:31
Comments:
lisa: pinehurst only has one hooker?
Name: lisa
he doesn't d@ngle by the seraphim
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 12:40:25
Comments:
philmy noir: your thoughts were concise yet well stated...thanks for sharing.
aja: try calling again if you're able...
ole: you are correct about the golfers having money to burn...unfortunately, what doesn't end up as single malt scotch often finds its way into the DD cup of busty bixbee (local stripper extraordinaire/hooker with a heart).
effNumber: you have hit upon one of the most dreadful aspects of the male golf community...and remember: never bring salted nuts to a garden party.
dave88: been kinda sweet on "your gold teeth 2" lately...are you coming to new orleans?
Name: Philmy Noir
danglingp@r1disciples
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 10:15:48
Comments:
... !
Name: Witch Queen
livin@thebayou.com
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 08:43:16
Comments:
INEFFECTIVE DAILY AFFIRMATIONS
- As I let go of my feelings of guilt, I can get in touch with my Inner Sociopath.
- I have the power to channel my imagination into ever-soaring levels of suspicion and paranoia.
- I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the ones that are someone else's fault.
- I no longer need to punish, deceive or compromise myself. Unless, of course, I want to stay employed.
- In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.
- Having control over myself is nearly as good as having control over others.
- My intuition nearly makes up for my lack of good judgment.
- I can change any thought that hurts into a reality that hurts even more.
- I honor my personality flaws, for without them I would have no personality at all.
- Joan of Arc heard voices too.
- I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those censorious, self-righteous people around me.
- I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper and complain.
- As I learn the innermost secrets of the people around me, they reward me in many ways to keep me quiet.
- When someone hurts me, forgiveness is cheaper than a lawsuit. But not nearly as gratifying.
- The first step is to say nice things about myself. The second, to do nice things for myself. The third, to find someone to buy me nice things.
- As I learn to trust the universe, I no longer need to carry a gun.
- All of me is beautiful and valuable, even the ugly, stupid, and disgusting parts.
- I am at one with my duality.
- Blessed are the flexible, for they can tie themselves into knots.
- I will strive to live each day as if it were my 50th birthday.
- Only a lack of imagination saves me from immobilizing myself with imaginary fears.
- Does my quiet self-pity get to me? Yes? Or should I move up to incessant nagging?
- Today I will gladly share my experience and advice, for there are no sweeter words than "I told you so."
- False hope is nicer than no hope at all.
- A good scapegoat is nearly as welcome as a solution to the problem.
- Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day watching TV. Instead I will move my TV into the bedroom.
- Who can I blame for my own problems? Give me just a minute... I'll find someone.
- Why should I waste my time reliving the past when I can spend it worrying about the future?
- The complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.
- I am learning that criticism is not nearly as effective as sabotage.
- Becoming aware of my character defects leads me to the next step - blaming my parents.
- To understand all is to fear all.
- I will find humor in my everyday life by looking for people I can laugh at.
- The next time the universe knocks on my door, I will pretend I am not home.
- My body is a temple. Do you want to come over for midnight mass?
- To have a successful relationship I must learn to make it look like I'm giving as much as I'm getting.
- I am willing to make the mistakes if someone else is willing to learn from them.
Name: jOKeR
close.to.the.edge.down.by.the.river
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 06:21:47
Comments:
HERM: you certainly don't have to be ancient to play legitimate blues, it just naturally occurs that way..... kids these days; they play a good riff but i don't think they understand what they're playing - it's hollow, no meaning between the frets. that's what i hear anyhow....[smirK)
Name: daves88keys
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Grouse Point,
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 at 02:46:45
Comments:
lisa: what is your flavorite dan tune?
oleander: interesting posts
Dragon: Is that you?
San Diego 2000? Okay, I will accept a ticket. Was skeptical at first. Code Word: Rokeby
Name: oleander
another way to pass the time
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 21:17:15
Comments:
If anybody's interested, Ben Folds Five's new one, "The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner," will be released 4/27. They'll be touring the Northeast briefly this month--primarily college dates, so if you've got a friend who can get you an Amherst, Williams, or Rhode Island U. ID, you're set--then Europe, Japan, and Australia, before returning stateside to tour some more.
For more info: http://oeonline.oeonline.com/bff
Name: oleander
brain jello
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 20:10:55
Comments:
F#--That's how I see/ sense things too. Consider yourself quoted, and I got your date.
Doc K--That means there must be a special pre-bash bash on Thurs. More to come.
jk--"Kulee" could be a multi-layered, modal beauty. Did he really say that??
RB--OK. I'm going to have to put the running tally on my page.
Clas--great idea! We could all just get tattoos instead of messing around with commemorative t-shirts! I think I'll get "Property of Barrytown HS" on my chest.
BF--Am I right that you're anteing up a keg of Spaten Mai to wash down that piece of Toll House pie? Wow! I'm impressed!
Kinky, Dr. Mu--Now boys, you just can't have a WHOLE YEAR, 2000, 2015, or whatever. That's REALLY NOT FAIR. Surely you can narrow it down.
Name: Dragon
she'll turnip, bye @nd bye
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 16:45:06
Comments:
Big Fan -- that's HI, not HA
Lisa -- Sorry I haven't been able to reach you by phone. The tix are $14.00 for general admission and 18.00 for seating, plus 3.50 each ticket for ticketBastard and an additional 3.00 per order.
ta ta,
Dragon
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 14:25:46
Comments:
Dr Mu; Very clairvoyant.
Ole - please give me my birthday 11/5/99. I wish I had something more exciting to report - German restaurants across the country have Spaten Mai (aka Premium ) Bock beer on tap - once available in bottles in the USA, alas now only in kegs - it is the Mother's milk of beers. Life is good!
BTW how do you you do umlauts?
Pete Fogel - are you out there? Steely Dammed concert? Pictures from Plymouth?
Peg - are you with us - How is the Dammed?
Don - hope you are better?
Walt - How is the weather in HA now?
Danfesters, et al: Have a rocking great time - please let us know!
Name: DrMu
rerun by rerun
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 08:12:54
Comments:
Kinky: I see your year and raise you a quarter of a Century. Oleander - I could revert to my ORIGINAL guess posted in December, 1997, which is included below as a reminder.---------------------------------------------------------------
"New York, NY
Deadline: December 7, 2525:The long awaited (forgotten) Steely Dan opus (still untitled) is finally released in the AVNN (audio-visual nerural net format). The 1 inch wafers can be purchased as susual through Sam Goody's and are compatible with Series IEEE2425 VP (virtual plugs) for those having the VPI procdure performed after 2015. See and hear the result of 30 years of noodling and mugging for the "Dan-Cam" It is anticipated that the release will be available in the shareware bargain bins next week as only 2 elderly inviduals going by Edd and Kinky have pre-ordered. Most of their fans were vaporized in the bizarre internet "accident" on January 1, 2000. President Bill Gates will honor Mr. Steely Dan at his induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year."
Reuters News...Zaeger and Evans, reporters
Name: Kinky
Behind the Bored
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 02:58:13
Comments:
Ruby - You mean you have to be a TV watcher to know the difference between "The Making of Aja" and "Steely Dan: Behind the Music"?
Hey, has anyone guessed 2000 yet? Well, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and put that down as my pick. Wait a minute, are we talking album dates or touring dates? Ah, never mind... don't matter.
Name: Clas
hi.ruby@zip.drive.com
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 00:40:19
Comments:
Hi Dan Fans!
Do you remember when I asked if anyone knew something about the upright bassplayer Eddie Gomez?
You don't?
Anyway, he's playing with Steve Gadd on a instructionvideo. After a lot of asking around I now know that he used to be in Bill Evans band.
Bill Evans used to play with the great Swedish singer Monica Zetterlund. Once during a radiorecording here in Stockholm she introduced the band. She forgot Eddie Gomez' name and called him Speedy Gonzales.
He became very low.
Ruby/Ole - great idea. I'll ask my hairdresser to paint the cover of "Can't Buy A Thrill " on the bold spot on my head.
Name: RubyBaby
hiclas@amigo.net
Location: CopingHagging,
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 20:43:17
Comments:
DrMu and Hank Silvers: Thank you both for responding to my VH1 question. I don't watch much tv, so I have to ask - what's the difference between The Making of Aja or Behind the Music? Your patience is appreciated.Oleander: Press on album covers - what a smashing idea! It would probably cost only $1000 if I got all 10. But my manicurist is merely sufficient, not a genious. I'd trust her to do Aja, maybe...
RScam: I like your Dylan/Simon tour names. I thought of one.
Punky's Blowin' In the Wind TourHas Dec 1 been taken as a guess?
rb
Name: MojoMusica
STEVEN@mojomusica.freeserve.co.uk
Location: Stockport, gm U.K.
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 16:39:42
Comments:
Hello to all fellow-sufferers from Dan-itis, it's good to know I'm not alone. The Dan have been a musical inspiration to me for sooo long, if only they could sustain their creative drive for some longer periods, and put us out of the misery of waiting for their next tour, or album.At least the wait is always worth it, and it can be a long wait, here in England. Still "lets do it right". The web site is really interesting and well designed, a pleasure to visit, and I'll be back again soon...:-)
Name: TheStranger
like a rolling kodachrome
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 16:28:53
Comments:
i am not a big paul simon fan myself. but he is not a species of barry manilow. he's a genuine talented artist. maybe with him around the stage dylan won't mumble so much. hillary's looking for a job. why don't they put her on tamourine?
Name: jk
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 14:47:48
Comments:
hey surfer thanks for the kind words. i think that you are missing the boat on kulleee - imagine it with horns and guitar solos and stuff, tightened up lyrics. I think that it is hysterical. When i requested it at the famous southampton gig - donald said, "We are taking our time to refine that gem: it will be our signature song for the new millenium." It's gonna be hard to beat Fall of 92. How about cinder girl is that better that wet , cash and jack?
my bank is starting a sort of xmas club account for me so that i can save $5 per week in order to be able to attend the Steely tour in the fall. At that point concerts will be going for $3-400. Plus $10 for parking, 18.50 service charge, $50 t-shirt, $19.50 for a beer, $20 gas. Yikes! I'll wait for the bootlegs of the tour and look at fogel photos.
Hey is that a real banyon tree. did they name it after the bad comic on seinfield.
Shari, Shari, baby
jkcoming soon: my new band - Citrus Cloud Emusion
Name: Phantom power
davidr_69@hotmail.com
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 12:29:25
Comments:
HEY does any body have and trade live steely dan tapes but not
for profit? i've got live stuff to trade. live Medeski,Martin &
Wood. Interested? Click me.
Name: Clas
give me no fucked up music
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 09:19:16
Comments:
doc Kelly - that was too bad.
Monica Lewinsky (puh!) was in town yesterday. Signing her book. Someone asked her if she knew where she was. She turned to her left bodyguard and said: - Copenhagen?
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 08:40:31
Comments:
Clas: No, I'm not a doctor... although I play one on the GB...
Lisa/Ole/Zeke: My pilot-buddy is indicating NO is a possibility... most likely a last minute decision depending on his need to take care of his regular commuters. He penciled in a trip to NO on his calendar, though, for a Wednesday (4/28)morning through Friday morning jaunt. I haven't mentioned the convention... just the Jazz & Heritage Fest. He did fly me to Dallas to see the Dan in 94 and he enjoyed the show... "which one of those guys is Dan?" More info as it develops.
Name: Neil & Jack
scrapingdiamonddust
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 08:14:30
Comments:
Michael Feldman just called the dylansimon coupling "the like a passing stone tour."
achoo, ouch
that's better.
Name: Surfer
USA
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 00:39:49
Comments:
jk- Dude you're the man! Fall of '92, right on dude. Always loved the music and the nazi thing as well. Kulee Baba? OVERRATED SONG dude. Yo jk, for that $ Simon/Dylan is a bargin.
Name: F#maj9
meow@paw.paw
Location: pittiful, Mi.
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 23:09:24
Comments:
Happy Saturday
one loose end was left as a Dangling Conversation [homage to P.Simon who,like Dylan,is an aging songwriter and poet in a material world; the juxtaposition outrages me not] in this other forum re: RazorBoy. I needled them but no one picked up thread. GB archived posts steeped in similar stuff which i brewed/brood.
steelyrics entering my mindscape require night vision. start by focusing too actuely? trip and go bump. in the night. must go for gestalt, kinda sorta gaze out there with vibrisae? yes. like a third eye on either side of frontal lobe. wait. make that four eyes gaze gaze against the... no . just gaze. things spontaneously appear, shapes assume meaning; watch out for tree, that's a big root, look Harvey,a crab. caveat: hot lix and clever trix played; deck may not be full, cards dealt from bottm (what's this inside bushes? '57 Chevy. bastards! inside joke, fuzzy dice and bongos).
some things placed without comprehension intention. other stuph exquisitely reeking with literary value. who nose. my mother still wants to know what he did to his old man in Awrregone. that's another thread. well.after many years, still don't sense guy with scythe and funky robe. wish to point needle at 'voice' singing, the cage [what gots no lock on its door], and the half that's better than the woman who is too fried to even shed a tear for her sorry ass self as she ponders the past while the future goes up in the linear increments of her today [sniff]. but can't make out death hiding anywhere in the bushes. post too long. i gotta pee. hold it...
Re:Simon, simple. i love you, sir [okay, not the same flavor of love harboured for joni m. but Eskimos have 20 words for snow and dictionary just says love. ah, me semantically challenged.
Oleander: Aug5 outstanding. blood workup in: Phoromones abound
[a mile down road flies one rilly confused moth] as do hormones.
but i'm a harried fan. (still studying for urine test)Jakob: afore mentioned moth may have flown into your headlight
Lisa: agree 'tis a virtue to love rather than hate a reflog out standing in their field. suggestion made to sell is divine, still, to err is human. give correct change then club from behind after you determine which car is theirs. love could be a risky business propostion after all; many never wash their balls.
Name: !!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!
WAR! WHATS IT GOOD FOR? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, SAY IT AGAIN YA'LL!
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 22:05:13
Comments:
I could see y we are bombing the shit out of Yugo-slob-ia.
I'm still wondering y the hell we were in Vietnam!
Anyway at least now us americans have a new culture of people to hate that we really know squat about. So now the Ruskies are the good guys right? I always wondered what the song War would sound like if SD did a cover of it! I would think James Brown could do it some justice. Well that my 2 cents still waiting for the new one.LTNF
Name: Freddy G. Willacres
ogoody@bc
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 21:37:09
Comments:
this GuestBook is somethin else.
i think i need a powder.
Name: oleander
soul of a fer de lance
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 21:26:17
Comments:
lisa--Don't HATE the golfers. EMBRACE them. SELL them something. I just read an article about golfing merchandise. Golfers tend to have a lot of disposable income, so instead of letting that cream rise to the top, come up with a way to separate them from it. How about golf-themed coffee drinks? A new club--the Steely Driver? Accessories? This could be your big break.
F#--You got it. Watch out for the phoromones.
El Sup--You too, and WAY to be man enough to ante up a prize! Did the rest of you hear that?
Herm--Right on. I'd take Ramona over Celia any day.
RS, Jake--How about Baby Blue Kodachrome? The Rhythm of St. Augustine? Or maybe Simon should tour with Stevie Wonder instead and call it The Myth of Fingertips Part II.
Name: Sociable Hermit
AThingForTheBlues
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 21:21:03
Comments:
joker: You don't have to have been born before 1935 to be considered a "legitimate" blues artist. I was referring to those other than the flavor-of-the-day boys like Jonny Lang, etal. There are dozens of artists in Chicago alone that are as young as, if not younger than, Dylan that could tear up the stage.
Herm
Name: Midnite Cruiser
an.hour.north.of.Greensboro
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 17:44:13
Comments:
Tonight at midnight may be the first Y2K test....at the end of the 99th day of the 99th year some code should start to malfunction....stay tuned and we'll see.
any date on the VH1 show yet?? haven't had time to check the website....vh1.com....if anyone finds out please post it!
Name: jk
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 14:34:27
Comments:
Just saw that new movie "Shaving ryan's privates" terrific. Melanie Kinnaman from "Friday 13th part 5" shines as the shearstress, Foamy Gillette.
jk
Name: jk
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 14:28:30
Comments:
track list for new cd:
All too mobile home
Coolie baba
fall of 92 (best song written in the 90's)
2nd arrangment
I can't write home about you
rapunzel -(jammin' version)
jack of speed
wet side story and cash only island (with new lyrics by thomas dolby - who will be walter's new parner in the future.)not a bad disc. say goodnite donald.
**** very soon: Denny dias's new project with pocaro on drums and bosstown horns - look for a tour in your area! 4 songs by denny!!!!!yes!
jk
Name: DrMu
I should try this spellcheck thing
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 13:12:21
Comments:
WINE = WIDE Ed McMahon was as wide as a red barn for a while. Maybe chasing those the children around, huh?
Name: DrMu
in the year 1
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 11:49:37
Comments:
joKEr: You are correct, sir. The Gregorian calendar began with the year 1 not 0 (Kubrick knew). Distrubingly, since King Herod died in 4 BC which was AFTER the swaddled one was born, we are now actually in the year 2002, 2003, or 2004 to be precise - but who's counting, right? BTW, can you believe that Johnny, not Edd was the first to have a coronary - that musta been RED WIDE in Ed's glass not borboun
Name: jOKer
upwind from pinehurst
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 11:17:58
Comments:
DR.MU: don't worry. we still have about a year and 8 mos. left before the actual turn of the millenium. i HOPE they can make that deadline.....
HERM: "legitimate blues artist"? i recollect there's only about two left still alive....
Name: Sociable Hermit
More Non-Dan Related Personal Issues
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 10:01:36
Comments:
I saw Dylan when he toured with Tom Petty in the mid-eighties. That tour made sense since Petty's music and voice owes a large debt of gratitude to Dylan. Plus, the fact that they are both purported to be heavy reefer smokers...
Although I did not see the concert, I do own a copy of the CD which contains material from the concerts that Dylan performed with the Grateful Dead. That tour made even more sense, since they both had similar audiences, and the Dead prolifically covered Bobby's songs in concert. Plus, the fact that most of them are purportedly heavy reefer smokers...
But, I'm sorry, Dylan and Paul Simon, to me, is a joke. They have very little in common other than beginning in the same decade, and that, obviously, is the only reason these two were brought together. Marketing to Boomers who have a few extra bucks in their pockets. Why these two agreed to this concert in the first place is a little odd. Wasn't there anyone else that Dylan could share a bill with that would make more sense? Neil Young? Roger McGuinn? The reincarnated Dead? Clapton? (Nahh, too big). What about Steve Winwood? What about ANY legitamate blues artist in the country? Any of those choices plus a hundred more would not only be more interesting, but much more logical than what has been decided upon.
If both their songs suddenly sprang to life, Dylans worst song would still have the ability to hunt down what is considered to be Paul Simon's best, beat the living shit out of hit, and eat it alive as part of a festival along with Ladysmith Black Mombazo. For the most part, Simon's catalogue is far too soft, whimpy and poppy to play alongside of Dylan. This is not intended to be an all-out attack upon Simon, because I believe that there are hundreds of people or bands that he could play with that would make a fine concert. Natalie Merchant. Edie Brickell-Simon. Tracy Chapman. Crosby, Stills and Nash. But not Dylan. This is just geared to make sure that houses are sold out when they play. Really sad.
I just hope that Dylan doesn't have to play the part of Artie and harmonize with Simon to "The Boxer". If he does, I only hope that he immediately breaks into, "Hurricane". See the connection? Just like the concert itself, someone saw a tenuous link, but in reality, it makes no sense.Later,
Herm
Name: lisa
u-phore-i@
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 09:37:40
Comments:
f#: do you know what it feels like when someone puts their intellectual finger in your lobed recess?
sir scamalot: i'd be glad to have you tote my sack any day...you tinkle the martini glass to get their attention and i'll practice my swing.
Name: Roy.Scam
RSVP to Appocalypse Invitation
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 08:38:52
Comments:
Bigger Daddy: Sorry I can't make the monkey revering, termite eating party; I'll be coaching Little League and swilling animal fat at the barbecue. Besides, termites go straight to my hips. But thanks for the invite and the words of encouragement.
lisa: Wasn't it George Carlin who compared watching golf to watching flies fuck? Anyway, if you need a caddy, I have a gift for club selection.
Jacob Dealin': I would think , after, the Johnny Cash "Girl From the North Country" debaucle, there would be a violent aversion to any Bob Dylan duets. The only tour names I could come up with were:
Knock Knock Knocking on Another Man's Floor
and
Buckets of SilenceAnd BTW, Jacob, the Four Seasons did it better with just one Marlena,
RS
Name: f#maj9
phore!@hey19thhole
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 08:14:52
Comments:
BigDaddy: "we had to destroy the village in order to save it" sounds hauntingly familiar, n'est ce pas?
Jakob: maybe dad's $2,000,000 minaret encrusted tangled up in royalties with no good place to go mansion has affected your impressionable developing system o' values [and you just said no]
listen- atta boy. oh. my daughter digs your eyes. rock on kid.BiggaDaddaShakalakalakaetc: the decline of western civilization?
corporate capitalist brain invaders tap dancing on the synapses in our children's heads. eep. pull around to the second window.
embrace balkanization?Oleander: Aug 5 okay (w/r/t DrMu, is that 1999 or 2000?) as long as no one has peed in the pool, i'm in.
Lisa: sounds like you awakened in the second verse of a SteelyDan song. take notes [recommend key of F#]. re:lobes okay, but i have a hole in one [ach. if you'll pardon the metaphor, do you think my slice on the 9th went further than my hook on the 8th?] PHORE! [what one should shout on the fairway of expression]
Name: DrMu
say it, say it
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 07:20:55
Comments:
BD: It appears that what this country needs is a good dose of Dan. We'll keep our fingers crossed that it happens before century's end (notice I didn't say which century!)
Name: lisa
stripped and sold mom, @uctioned forearm
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 05:45:16
Comments:
morning...did anyone besides me ever notice that golf spelled
backwards is flog? how appropriate.here in pinehurst we are in the midst of preparing for the u.s.
open...you know, planting gratuitous flowers on the roadside,
remodelling every cheap dive in order to attract the big money
crowd [as if the waffle shack has a chance of becoming THE happening spot for weary putters]- idiotic and frivolous uses of county AND private funds- meanwhile, little billy can't fucking read and they are trying to pass an ordinance forbidding people to put up mobile homes on their own property [often, this is the only housing option for lower income families].the event will bring an estimated 6 million dollars in revenues to moore county, and i dare say that it will only serve to broaden the social gap even more...the only "trickle down" effect i foresee is slobber running from the mouth of a drunken and lowly member of the service industry- hey, i think it's little billy's dad!- as he lays passed out on the stoop of wafflerama, not quite able to afford the deluxe pancake breakfast.
oh, sorry...bigger daddy's post got me thinkin' and now i'm all riled up...think i'll go beat a golfer.
p.s. welcome aboard f#...can i examine your lobes?
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 05:15:16
Comments:
El Supremo - I AM in Sweden.
Oleander - the correct name is "stetoskop".
Name: Bigger Daddy
boomchakalakalaka (repeat)
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 04:16:46
Comments:
Bush is an idiot. Clinton is a pawn. Gore is misunderstood and makes a fool of himself because he is dirt-stupid-honest. Honesty has no place in today's world. Big money fuels insurrection and bigger money squashes it. Then, when we're duped into thinking democracy has won, little money rebuilds the war-torn landscape and we all breathe a sigh of relief to see the Haitians lined up at the ballot box. Yup, we can all feel damn good about ourselves and the "manifest destiny" of the USA being played out before our very eyes. Meanwhile, the Japanese are taking classes in order to learn how to smile...
The lines between Democrat and Republican are blurred by the Industrial/Military Machine that must find a reason to wage war in order to keep the $500 hammers in production. ("The Wall" comes to mind here.) Our children are getting Nike ads and free McDonald's Fries coupons stuffed in their text books and we celebrate our dubious societal advancement by ordering a couple of pizzas during the commercial break between Friends and Mad About You. Yep, this is R E A L L Y living!
Welcome to the future. Scared? So what? Go get a tattoo and show everyone that you're not...
We're doomed ladies and gentlemen. Nothing has been learned. We still gotta see someone die up close and personal before we forget our tattoo appointment. And then we'll still have to remove the studs from our tongues to keep from breaking out our own front teeth when we shriek! Remember this: If we can't stop the explosion of 3-legged frogs we can always look like one. (Hey, maybe I can sell that gag to Leno!")
If there is a god he will cleanse this earth and put what's left of the human race in awe of monkeys. Maybe they'll have pity on us and teach us how to use a stick to catch termites. We don't deserve anything, much less a portfolio of worthless wealth riding shotgun in a SUV and screaming victory at 10 cents a minute. Two Against Nature will never be released. The kings of irony have met their match. I am humbled and afeared. That ditch out in the valley is being dug with our own hands.
Countdown to Tragedy
Name: El Supremo
you walked in @ my life began again.com
U.S.A.
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 02:45:26
Comments:
Hello DanFanDom!!
Guess the "new one" will be released whenever it is released. Let me guess, November 12th.
I will kick in a tee-shirt from the 1994 tour, Oleander, as a "prize" for the lucky one.
Oh - definitely - Clas, KatyDanFan and I would love to come to Sweden and go to the PALACE!!
JustKatyDanFan, I love you, wife-for-life.
Keep smilin' and roll up another one, pan fry the big one, or mister whatever.
Cheers!
ES
Name: Clas
its.okay.but.its.not... uhm... left?
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 00:21:32
Comments:
RubyBaby - this night I sat down (okay, I was up but I sat down) and consulted my old english teacher Dr Gotobed. He's now a famous professor in Oxford. He said that it could be so that in the american dialect of the OxfordEnglish the spelling of Marins could be spelled Marines.
I remember back in my old school how Dr Gotobed one day was very sick. On the the door to the classroom he had wrote a note; "dr Gotobed has gone to bed".
Ole Ander - I can hardly wait to check that one out.
What's VH1? Video?
Name: Big Daddy
From the Left
Date: Friday, April 9, 1999 at 00:15:36
Comments:
You know, it's so wonderful to know you can always count on Republicans for some real American Pretzel Logic, eg, The refugee crisis is a direct cause of the bombing. (Oh yeah, I guess there's that ethnic cleansing thing). How many refugees do you hear saying, "we'd still live peacefully in our homes if it wasn't for this NATO bombing which mysteriously raised the ire of the Serbian Army with whom we had been having great diplomatic relations." This paralysis of reasoning ability is the same thing which leads Republicans to believe that there would be no division in their party were it not for the "liberal media." The Serbian government and military have deserved to have the living shit bombed out of their machinery for 9 years now, and I would have certainly supported Bush if he opted to take them out. Of course, bipartisan support in a time of crisis is probably a far-out concept for you Grand Old Pigs. Hope you figure it out some day.
By the way, just discovered that Sun Mountain is a pretty good song.
Name: Jacob Dealin
I Have a Name
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 23:33:47
Comments:
I was scrounging through the mess in dad's guitar case when I found this interesting tidbit concerning the upcoming Dealin/Simon tour: Seems like daddy wants to call it, "Tangled up in Troubled Waters" while Paul prefers "One Trick Phony". In any case it's only being done for the money and I'm happy to be making my own, thank you.
Two Burned-Out Headlights,JD
Name: GoodKingRichard
link down@the moment
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 22:46:17
Comments:
Ole: Sorry, couldn't reply direct (new systems, same old problems here). Thanks, I won't set up a 24hr watch on the mailbox just yet.
Ole et al: Just to say all the best for the DanFest - I'll be thinking of you as I try to reel in the years this w/e and the first anklecrunching tackle of the season comes flying in. Y'all have a great time in N'awlins. If I promise to procreate this w/e will you promise to mail another t-shirt? I believe the size of the new baby will be about 42in chest!
Richard&kangaroos
Name: TheStranger
tell us to stop before we've begun
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 22:21:44
Comments:
we should send troops to help the albanians because if they were from a big rich country with deodorant and toothpaste for everyone and we were dirt-poor peasants who herded pigs and listened to accordians i am sure they would send troops to help us.
steely dan should tour china and figure a way to get back those atomic secrets that dropped out of bubba's billfold while he was putting away the 300K for his campaign.
Name: oleander
pass over
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 18:40:02
Comments:
Mmmm.... Sicilian pizza only tastes this good once a year.
RubyB--can your place do press-ons with the Steely album covers on them?
Ja(k)cob--Or you could call it "One Budlight."
Clas--I will be there. And packing. I'll bring my stethoscope, and you should see the new external difibrillators--completely automatic, weigh about 4 pounds, and they make you clean forget your sternum pains.
OMIO, Hank, fezo--I know, I know, but I would still go see them.
BF--You want ANOTHER date? OK, OK, but Maxine already picked 11/2. BTW, the pool now contains a guitar pick, ten bucks, a Barrytown t-shirt, and a warm piece of Toll House pie.
F#--does that mean you want August 5 in the betting pool?
Name: jk
kcw3001@aol.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 17:18:47
Comments:
november!!!!! they are killing me!this had better be good and donald has to get out of his cutsey phase and they better play at small venues!
they are better off though waiting to the xmas season - old people don't get to the record shop to much - just buy dad the new dan for xmas!
jk
Name: Hank Silvers
c/o Hugo Spaak
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 14:54:10
Comments:
OMIO, fezo: a few years ago, I seem to recall Simon refusing a similar tour with Garfunkel. Solo material from each, then duets. Then Simon said he realized he'd be just an opening act for Simon and Garfunkel. So now post-Capeman, he doesn't mind being an opening act for Bob Dylan? Or would he rather try to follow Dylan's act? Neither sounds good.
Ruby: Believe the VH1 thing is supposed to be about the making of Aja. Just as long as it's not "Behind The Music."
Name: F#maj9
w.side.studio@usa.net
Location: A2, Mi upperUS
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 14:07:35
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations (halucinations?) Danizens
on recommendation of cybernetic acquaintance (sympatico from the lunatic fringe, like Neil Youngs buckskin jacket unfurled in the magnetosphere) I post, therefore I yam. I am a cross addresser from alt.music.steely-dan but that point is moot.To really prepare for this Maiden Voyage (that's another GB) I have just finished listening to the enitre germane discography backwards.
no. not the back of my front facing Annondale (east from here)
I mean I ruined my turntable while rotating (the turntable) digitally counterclockwise (w/ index finger) constantly (33 1/3) and hence (hithertoooo) am prepared to extrapolate (a favorite transitive verb). First, Rx:600mg Ibuprofen for carpal tunnel problem. sorry. where was I?After the gnard dnu mruts cleared (listened backwards) I can tell you this: I am now rilly convinced that Paul is dead.
too many allusions to referrence right now. well, okay- if you play Showbizkidz backwards you can hear W&D doing the entire last scene of King Lear and then argue (a lot of yelling) about who can be the walrus (Glass Onion stuff). Perhaps this is when D first hurt his throat.
sorry. where was I?trying to establish sympathetic vibrations.
what is the sound of one lobe groking?best wishes and festoons
F#maj9aug5add17m11hitwammybar (make snarl face)
Name: DrMu
Why can't we just put this war behind us?
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 11:16:26
Comments:
RB: They all got together for some pic shots is Jan. See Class of '77 at the Big Show or the Chuck Rainey web site. Haven't heard anything new about when the making of Aja will be on VH1. Maybe this month?
Dateline April 8, 1999
Want add placed in the Washington Post today:Lost:
1) 60,000 refugees overnight (the media was supposed to watch them instead of going back to the inns to partake of Albanian sausage and beer)2) 500 Apache helicopters
3) 200,000 infantry and Marines (thought I left them in Germany)
4) One aircraft carrier (I let little buddy Al play with it somewhere near Asia)
5) Schematics on how to make new cruise missles
6) Schematics for nuclear warheads, guidance systems, and rockets (I left them at Charlie T's house I think after we had those Szechuan dumplings)
7) Detailed miltary plan from the Croatians on how to kick Serbia's ass
8) How to turn misery in Kosovo for 200 people into misery for 1.8 million of their citizens (no... wait I found that one!)
Call 555-BUBB and ask for Bill
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 11:05:01
Comments:
Back up I see!
My birthday is November 5, so a November 2 release date would be fine by me - what a great present - Thanks in advance D & W!
Name: *
*
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 06:59:20
Comments:
*
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 04:48:17
Comments:
Paganini! Yes!
Zeke - damm, can't stay that long.
Jacob Dealin - du är svensk va? Jacob Dahlin??
RubyBaby - hi!
Ole Ander - you haven't changed your plans? 'cause I ain goin to nårlins without ej doc.
Doc Kelly - are you a real doctor?
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 04:40:16
Comments:
Öhh... ehh... what's the name of that dude with the fiddle now again...?
Name: Jacob Dealin
one headlight
Date: Thursday, April 8, 1999 at 00:51:03
Comments:
Clas,
You forgot "amber waves of grain".
See You in the Stinky City,JD
Name: RubyBaby
love@man.in.uniform.com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 16:39:43
Comments:
hi to all loyal Dan fanatics!
Clas: I love the poem, especially the Marine part. Have fun, fun, fun in New Orleans! Soak up all the sun & jazz you can. And drink lemon-ade, ok? I'll be thinking of ya.
RoseDarling: Wow, what a "moving" Ballad! (or swan song as Clas calls it.) I haven't been around here much lately, but I'll miss you anyway. And try not to mislabel the box with your Steely Dan inside. Moving is frustrating enough!
Someone mentioned a VH1 special in April. Is that a Steel Dan or a Donald/Walter thing?
btw, I was getting my nails done when the blonde from Animotion came in with her 5 year old daughter. Apparently, VH1 is doing a piece on her. (that's why she was getting her hair done.) They shot it a couple of weeks ago in her home and in the club where she sings sometimes, called Livingstone's. If they can do one on her, why the heck not on Donald Fagen or Walter Becker??mW: ever been to Livingstone's? Probably not a good OSHA place, but the food's fine.
I like veni vedi vici better, though.rb
Name: Zeke
blind date with Lucrecia McEvil
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 11:46:09
Comments:
Doc: That's ironic. I saw the Black Crowes last night. At first, they looked geriatric, but those dudes can jam. I wouldn't mind seeing the Crowes on the same bill as the Dan.
CLas: Bruce Hornsby at HOB in New Orleans, May 30th.
Name: fezo
BridgeOverMozambique
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 11:44:17
Comments:
adding fuel to the Dylan/Simon tour fire: today's Post (Washington) reports that the two will each play 75 minute solo sets, then "at most dates" will do three or four duets. I'd be willing to pay more for one of the non-duet dates. Dylan doing "Mrs. Robinson"? Run awayyyyy!!!
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch recovery room
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 11:00:11
Comments:
Saw the Geriatric Bunch, er, the Stones, last night... It was a cultural experience!
Name: OMIO
Sofaraway
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 08:46:10
Comments:
Clas & JD: Don't look now, but Dylan & Paul Simon are going to tour together.. It's Awful.. They're saying nice things about each other & fawning over the good old days in The Village..
Call Art Bell! Must be Alien Implants..
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 01:59:15
Comments:
TheKatyDanFan - AAHHH! The PALACE, yes it's here in Stockholm.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 01:53:05
Comments:
JustKaty - who's El Supremo?
Hi all good people! You yankees. I sat up all night, working on a piece, kind of poem, in fact a tribune to The Wonderful Country you have over there; USA.
What I mean is; we're not gonna have any misunderstandings when we meet face to face, shall we?
This is what I came up with last night:
"WONDERFUL COUNTRY
Oh you brave Nation
Always showing the Sunny Side,
Like your breakfast eggs at lunch
A land, much stronger than its coffee,
And thanks to the Marins
We can sleep tight at nights
United States, United States
We are all united
In our hearts"
See you!
Name: Jacob Dealin
daddy's machine
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1999 at 00:13:06
Comments:
I got into daddy's bottom drawer and found some lyrics to a song that was intended for Blood on the Tracks but never made it. Oh well, daddykins has always been a prolific bastard...
God in a Bottle
I'm a sweeper
A leacherous finder and keeper
Sell my treasures at 5th and Vine
Happy to trade for a cheap, red wineThe color of her lips
Careful not to slip
But I've never been that strong
Strong as God in a bottleNow the government seekers
The voted in speakers
They buy my trash and throw it away
I follow them and collect my pay
to buy God in a bottleGod is a smooth, tall glass
Empty or full, it's open to draught
And it's drafty tonight
The majority is sifting through shredded past
The confetti of parades flying half-mast
As I tip the last
Of God in a BottleDad Hates Paul Simon,
JD
Name: TheKatyDanFan
"...three dots for Rose Darling..."
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 21:59:29
Comments:
Clas: Notice I'm keeping up my image as the three dot Princess. By the way, does this mean you are the three dot King? (I do always notice your dots, yes.) And that El Supremo gets to be the three dot Prince? And is the palace over there in Sweden?Rose Darling: Hugs back at ya! I just saw your post now, I'm a little behind schedule! Best of luck with moving, I'll be watching for you. Hurry back, sister, I'll definitely miss you!
Stranger, Rose and Oleander: Thanks for the kind words regarding my 'near disaster.' It has made me always appreciate hearing a great voice, like when I hear Don and Walt laughing at Antoine (or however his name is spelled), and it has kept me focused on the simple and truly significant things in life, such as waiting around for the new one!
Midnite Cruiser and David in the Florida Room: Hello to both of you, nice to see you back.
El Supremo: I know you tell me you love me every day, but I want to see it in print, sweetheart. ILYM
Just Katy :)
...who's relieved she can't make the Danfest, only because she doesn't want to be faced with the decision of just what to do when Clas' legs show up...
Name: mock
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 21:01:58
Comments:
yer not missin much, buddy
Name: Pissed off Danfan
What the hell
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 19:51:31
Comments:
I cant get into the freakin' Chat Room.
For Weeks now......shit
Sorry I had to vent a little, so Al Darling what r u gonna do about this?
Name: oleander
busted down on Bourbon Street
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 18:49:11
Comments:
Stranger--Thanx for your generous good wishes.
OMIO--That's cool.
Name: TheStranger
still hurts
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 16:55:22
Comments:
spent a lost weekend with college pals in new orleans many mardi gras ago. the cops were evil, baton-swinging dolts who like all truly ignorant people, feared and loathed outsiders. but the town's got character and if you don't get knifed you will probably enjoy yourselves.
Name: Clas
AHA!
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 08:57:48
Comments:
AJA! Hi!
Name: Clas
atelje.lundkvist@swipnet.se
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 02:53:33
Comments:
Zeke - that's MY address.
Oh Rose, that was a real Swansong!
Holy shit, was that Dylan? I'd rather see a western movie.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 00:46:31
Comments:
I'm sorry to say that Pompe refused to follow me to the work today. He just stopped in the middle of the street when he realized where we were heading. Couldn't move him (65 kilo). Had to go back home with him.
Zeke - yes, lisa is right, I'll be there the 24th. Email me, I've lost your email several computers ago.
Lisa - you got those tickets, sweetheart?
For you girls - do you mind if I wear Bermuda Shorts down in New Orleans? My legs are really great but I don't want you to öh öh... eh, uh... jump on me. Just leave me alone, okay?
Peter Erskine's got a new CD out. "Juni". With Palle Danielsson (the Swede).
I read somewhere that Gary Burton is President for Berklee. Amazing.
Name: Mock Turtle
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at 00:34:53
Comments:
Blood on the Tracks is a great album, and 'Lily' is a great song. I see your point though, Lester. The song doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the album. The rest of the songs seem more personal, about his divorce (probably not the Haitian kind). But it does fit in in that it's an excellent song.
Maybe Appie's just hinting that TNO will have a song with the word 'Jack' in the title.
Name: oleander
shelter from the storm
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 23:21:55
Comments:
Appy--Where did you get verse 12? It's not on my cd. Let's see, are you hinting that The New One will have a) a Dylan cover, b) a Western-themed song, or c) something that goes for 8:50?
OL--I LOVE this song. I have spent many languid moments visualizing the story, which I think is masterful, and knit together with some fantastic imagery, subplots, and subtle threads. The music is simple--no riffing, no solos--and upbeat to move the story along. "Face down like the Jack of Hearts," Rosemary "seein' her reflection in the knife"--amazing. For me this song is always in a neighboring thought with "Do It Again," but where Dylan is rich and tapestried, the Dan are noir and impressionistic. And the music is just as important as the words. They also did some outright storytelling in "Charlie Freak" and "Haitian Divorce," but mostly they work in vignettes and sketches. Anyway, what a great song on one of the best albums ever.
Name: Original Lester
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 20:13:46
Comments:
Lily, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts is probably the one song on Dylan's Blood on the Tracks that I regularly pass up. That post reminded me of why. Don't get me wrong- I am a huge Bob fan, and I love Blood on the Tracks. Lily et al just doesn't ring with me the way Simple Twist of Fate, Idiot Wind, You're a Big Girl Now, and others do. By the way, any true Dylan fan owns Time Out of Mind and listens to it frequently- definitely one of his best ever.
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 17:07:16
Comments:
Rose....I sympathize with your moving plight....we're all moved in now but it was four days just moving about 20 miles to the new house. I hope we never have to do it again!! Good luck!
everyone else:....any definite word on release date on "the new one"?
any word on the VH1 special that was perported to air in April?
it's good to be back after such a long absence. I raise up my glass to you all!
Name: John Granatino
john@granatino.com
RI
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 16:31:09
Comments:
NEW HOME FOR STEELY DAN INTERNET RESOURCE
Greetings, fellow addicts,
Just a note to alert you that I've moved the Steely Dan Internet Resource to a new address: http://www.granatino.com/sdresource
I've also, umm, gotten rid of some of the dead links and the 60k file of music that I used to force you to load before the page painted. (grin)
Thanks for all your kind letters these last 3 1/2 years.
--John
"I only know I must obey/
This feeling I can't explain away"
Name: TheStranger
quoting
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 16:26:53
Comments:
oh, rosie girl, the pipes the pipes are playing ....
from glen to glen ....
.....but come ye back when summer's in the meadow ...
(you'll be missed)
Name: App E. Tizer
E-What?
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 14:35:03
Comments:
LILY, ROSEMARY AND THE JACK OF HEARTSThe festival was over, the boys were all plannin' for a fall,
The cabaret was quiet except for the drillin' in the wall.
The curfew had been lifted and the gamblin' wheel shut down,
Anyone with any sense had already left town.
He was standin' in the doorway lookin' like the Jack of Hearts.He moved across the mirrored room, "Set it up for everyone," he
said,
Then everyone commenced to do what they were doin' before he
turned their heads.
Then he walked up to a stranger and he asked him with a grin,
"Could you kindly tell me, friend, what time the show begins?"
Then he moved into the corner, face down like the Jack of Hearts.Backstage the girls were playin' five-card stud by the stairs,
Lily had two queens, she was hopin' for a third to match her
pair.
Outside the streets were fillin' up, the window was open wide,
A gentle breeze was blowin', you could feel it from inside.
Lily called another bet and drew up the Jack of Hearts.Big Jim was no one's fool, he owned the town's only diamond mine,
He made his usual entrance lookin' so dandy and so fine.
With his bodyguards and silver cane and every hair in place,
He took whatever he wanted to and he laid it all to waste.
But his bodyguards and silver cane were no match for the Jack of
Hearts.Rosemary combed her hair and took a carriage into town,
She slipped in through the side door lookin' like a queen without
a crown.
She fluttered her false eyelashes and whispered in his ear,
"Sorry, darlin', that I'm late," but he didn't seem to hear.
He was starin' into space over at the Jack of Hearts."I know I've seen that face before," Big Jim was thinkin' to
himself,
"Maybe down in Mexico or a picture up on somebody's shelf."
But then the crowd began to stamp their feet and the house lights
did dim
And in the darkness of the room there was only Jim and him,
Starin' at the butterfly who just drew the Jack of Hearts.Lily was a princess, she was fair-skinned and precious as a
child,
She did whatever she had to do, she had that certain flash every
time she smiled.
She'd come away from a broken home, had lots of strange affairs
With men in every walk of life which took her everywhere.
But she'd never met anyone quite like the Jack of Hearts.The hangin' judge came in unnoticed and was being wined and
dined,
The drillin' in the wall kept up but no one seemed to pay it any
mind.
It was known all around that Lily had Jim's ring
And nothing would ever come between Lily and the king.
No, nothin' ever would except maybe the Jack of Hearts.Rosemary started drinkin' hard and seein' her reflection in the
knife,
She was tired of the attention, tired of playin' the role of Big
Jim's wife.
She had done a lot of bad things, even once tried suicide,
Was lookin' to do just one good deed before she died.
She was gazin' to the future, riding on the Jack of Hearts.Lily washed her face, took her dress off and buried it away.
"Has your luck run out?" she laughed at him, "Well, I guess you
must have known it would someday.
Be careful not to touch the wall, there's a brand-new coat of
paint,
I'm glad to see you're still alive, you're lookin' like a saint."
Down the hallway footsteps were comin' for the Jack of Hearts.The backstage manager was pacing all around by his chair.
"There's something funny going on," he said, "I can just feel it
in the air."
He went to get the hangin' judge, but the hangin' judge was
drunk,
As the leading actor hurried by in the costume of a monk.
There was no actor anywhere better than the Jack of Hearts.Lily's arms were locked around the man that she dearly loved to
touch,
She forgot all about the man she couldn't stand who hounded her
so much.
"I've missed you so," she said to him, and he felt she was
sincere,
But just beyond the door he felt jealousy and fear.
Just another night in the life of the Jack of Hearts.No one knew the circumstance but they say that it happened pretty
quick,
The door to the dressing room burst open and a cold revolver
clicked.
And Big Jim was standin' there, ya couldn't say surprised,
Rosemary right beside him, steady in her eyes.
She was with Big Jim but she was leanin' to the Jack of Hearts.Two doors down the boys finally made it through the wall
And cleaned out the bank safe, it's said that they got off with quite a haul.
In the darkness by the riverbed they waited on the ground
For one more member who had business back in town.
But they couldn't go no further without the Jack of Hearts.The next day was hangin' day, the sky was overcast and black,
Big Jim lay covered up, killed by a penknife in the back.
And Rosemary on the gallows, she didn't even blink,
The hangin' judge was sober, he hadn't had a drink.
The only person on the scene missin' was the Jack of Hearts.The cabaret was empty now, a sign said, "Closed for repair,"
Lily had already taken all of the dye out of her hair.
She was thinkin' 'bout her father, who she very rarely saw,
Thinkin' 'bout Rosemary and thinkin' about the law.
But, most of all she was thinkin' 'bout the Jack of Hearts.
Name: GK John
Wearing the weary hours down
Location: or is it the wee wee hours?,
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 12:34:30
Comments:
That was in Springsteen's "Brilliant Disguise" wasn't it?
Anyway... Rosie, I'm genuinely touched by your ode to the lost and wandering Danfan. It warmed me in a place where cockells deserve to be warmed! Adieu and bon voyage! Until we meet again and the case is sol-ved!One more group hug before you go, and don't let Peter North be the one standing behind you!
Raise up your glass!
Name: OMIO
stilwell@efn.org
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 10:00:33
Comments:
RB: Good idea about Danfest posts.. See if you guys can find a keyboard to poke at while your poking around there, OK?
Geena: SF is a state of mind as much as a locality.. Don't live there anymore, just hooked up with some interesting scenes around there recently, which gives me reasons to visit.. Sons Of Champlin playing the Fillmore on June 4th, & Portland on June 12th FYI.. I always thought The Sons were very similar to SD, & along with Quicksilver Messenger Service were originators of Jazz-Rock.. it's a real treat to see them around..
Becker excels at "note selection", probably because being a bassist trained him to keep it, uh, Basic..
And since someone was curious.. OMIO=Old Man In Oregon.."I Ain't sitting up with the Dead anymore,
Since the Dead started sitting up, too.."
Name: jOKER
happily unmentioned from rose's poem
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 09:14:29
Comments:
still smarting from Steely Dan's annual snub from the R&R HOF? sheck out today's {www.suck.com}.......kinda puts things in perspective.
whassamatter, rosie? couldn't find a word that rhymes with JOKER?
1. smoker
2. croaker
3. soaker
4. coker
5. toker
6. broker
7. choker
8. ochre
9. cloaker10....and my favorite (and most appropriate): poker
Name: minah
me@toomanycows.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 08:43:31
Comments:
Rose: A Safe, OSHA-approved moving experience to you, remember to lift with your knees...
-mW
Name: Number
driver8
Date: Monday, April 5, 1999 at 00:39:05
Comments:
Gandhi wore no shoes, ate no meat and refused dental care. Is it true he was a:
Super-calloused fragile-mystic cursed with hallitosis?
Tuffets for Paper and String,Numbre'
Name: Peter North
Rose Darling, you come on me
Date: Sunday, April 4, 1999 at 16:49:31
Comments:
Rose- what about me? Where's my love? Didn't we have something special?
Name: oleander
eyes on fire
Date: Sunday, April 4, 1999 at 13:36:03
Comments:
Razor--I hereby nominate you for Entertainment Director In Absentia. Please e me with more ideas! Better yet, find a way to come.
Aja--Welcome back, girlfriend! Can't wait to Fest with you.
lisa--You are bodacious 24 hours a day.
Rose--aw, that was very sweet, and thanx.
Mu--glad that little Easter egg arrived safely. Let me know what you think.
BKs'S--Great post. Welcome.
RS--Hey, Edd started it. And you've seen me; you know I weigh a lot more than 40 pounds.
Kinky--MWAH!
Name: Rose Darling
Gataguapa@aol.com
Date: Sunday, April 4, 1999 at 10:58:16
Comments:
Well, I didn't go to Bard College, but...
Here's my attempt at playing the bard.
Hope it doesn't dcrew up...In a few weeks, I'll be temporarily offline
Since it's packing up and moving time.
This computer I post on is not mine,
And will unfortunately be left behind.
No more time for reading and posting, lots of things to do
So my Dan friends, for now, I must bid you fond adieu.
Hope I'll get to return to Sign In Stranger soon
Having Two Against Nature to discuss would be a boon.
This is a hiatus, not a permanent farewell.
Being part of the brotherhood is and was really swell.
I think about it now and then, and it does amaze
That sometimes when a Steely Dan songs plays
I think about posts I've read in here on many days
And through my mind there are many replays.
From about July 1998 until right now
This place became a habit somehow.
I'll return as soon as circumstances allow
Whether you like it or not, that's a solemn vow.Let me part with this, to those I'll most miss
A hug for each one and a virtual kiss:
Geena, RubyBaby, Katy and Josie Dan Fan, my Sisters Babylon
I'll be thinking about you while I'm gone
And also the MIA sweetie Eviva Laughs
Even Lester the Nightfly with his jokes and gaffes,
David in the Florida Room, a truly class act,
To oleander, every ill word I retract.
I'll miss you all, and that's a fact.
Your posts have kept me coming back.*****To Roy Scam, fezo, Schwinn and Stranger
*****Special thanks for posts of daring, fun and danger...To those of worthy read but posts somewhat few:
Midnite Cruiser, Razor Boy, Moray Eel,
Mitch and Edd with your terse but knowledgeable appeal.
Steve V. Dan, Zeke, Luckless Pedestrian,
Michael C. Packard, GK John, Big Fan,
YGK, lovebob, OMIO, Sociable Hermit,
Witch Queen whose humor just won't quit,
Doc Kelly, Joe M, Maj, minah, St. Al, and Dr. Mu
I always kept an eye out for reading posts from all of you.To those cruising through here with posts fewer and rare:
Myra Eyefull, Lisa, Peg, come out, come out, do you dare?
(Gotcha, Lisa!)Of those acquaintances made most recently
Original Lester stands out memorably.Clas (and your doggie Pompe the Great DANe)
Without your presence, this place would not be the same.To those of you who find this poem too corny or sentimental
To scroll on by your power option fundamental.
But then again, if this poem really makes you sick
I don't care `cause you're probably an insensitive prick!I can't depart leaving unconfessed
Someday I hope to make it to an infamous Danfest.To those mentioned above, anyone missed, and all the rest...
Wish you all the best, and may each of your days be blessed.See ya !
"It was Chain Lightning, it feels so good..."
Name: Original Lester
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Sunday, April 4, 1999 at 01:52:39
Comments:
Dragon- You Dcrewed up and posted again.
"Dcrew me if I play too long"
Name: Dragon
@*%(!
Date: Saturday, April 3, 1999 at 17:05:47
Comments:
Sorry for the multi- post, I'm out of practice.
BTW, that's supposed to be posted not posed. I'm a proofreader, not a typist, dammint
Name: Dragon
@ka - Aja
Date: Saturday, April 3, 1999 at 17:02:57
Comments:
Just dropped by...
Looking forward to Sea Monster 15.There is some new stuff on the Official site, just posed on the first, nice to get another wit fix.
Last night I flipped on the radio when I did't feel like it, just because I had a feeling... and lo and behold, Deacon Blues is playing. And to make it that much better, somebody dcrewed up and played it again.
BTW, Desperatly seeking Proofreader?, any of you old GBer's wanna get a hold of me, send snail mail to: Pnuema Concepts c/o Sierra Luna P.O Box 677995 Orlando, FL 32867-7995
BIG FRENCHIE: Sorry to shut but I hope I got your atention, check with the webdrone for a message will ya?
Hope to be back on-line soon.
Dragon
Name: Dragon
@ka - Aja
Date: Saturday, April 3, 1999 at 17:02:35
Comments:
Just dropped by...
Looking forward to Sea Monster 15.There is some new stuff on the Official site, just posed on the first, nice to get another wit fix.
Last night I flipped on the radio when I did't feel like it, just because I had a feeling... and lo and behold, Deacon Blues is playing. And to make it that much better, somebody dcrewed up and played it again.
BTW, Desperatly seeking Proofreader?, any of you old GBer's wanna get a hold of me, send snail mail to: Pnuema Concepts c/o Sierra Luna P.O Box 677995 Orlando, FL 32867-7995
BIG FRENCHIE: Sorry to shut but I hope I got your atention, check with the webdrone for a message will ya?
Hope to be back on-line soon.
Dragon
Name: Original Lester
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Saturday, April 3, 1999 at 16:44:35
Comments:
Mu: The Home at Last solo is a gem, as is that of Black Friday. I also love what Becker did on Josie, and I believe he takes the second solo on I Got The News. Though he clearly could not hold a candle to any of the session players, Becker's work goes to show that the idea is to hit the notes that best bring out the song, not necessarily to pull off amazing guitar tricks. In other words, substance over style. Not to knock Carlton or Khan, who undoubtedly came up with some beautiful, intricate, and yet totally fitting lines themselves.
Name: Roy.Scam
we.goosed.Fabio.who's.next
Date: Saturday, April 3, 1999 at 08:59:22
Comments:
Bookkeepers's Son (both parent's make book?): Nice to have your relaxed-fit ass aboard. I live near William and Mary, and most people around here look at me like a fart in a space helmet when I utter the "W&M won't do" line.
Doc Mu: Favorite Becker solo: Black Friday. Especially the part where he borrows a musical phrase from Duke Ellington's "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" (..missed the Saturday dance..).
Oleander: You get 'Worst Pun of the Day' honors for the Gene (Town Without) Pitney reference. Sometimes you talk pretty silly for someone whose IQ is twice their weight.
lisa: your early morning metaphors are just fine. i see you're still a vocabularistic equestrian of the first magnitude.
RS
Name: Bookkeepers' (yes it's plural) Son
mwjury@webtv.net
Location: St. Paul, MN USA
Date: Saturday, April 3, 1999 at 06:52:00
Comments:
My Steely Dan web site virginity has ended. It sure beats the hell out of "Elvis Lives" and Spice Girl sites. My CD player is on it's own personal "Dirty Work" marathon as my kids Katie (I realize I spelled her name wrong since she lies like a rug) and Nicholas (ages 10 and 7 respectively) have sung the chorus over and over for the last 45 minutes (I am about ready to hole up in a basement with a case of dynamite). I realize I'm over the hill, when on a flight from Seattle to Minneapolis-St. Paul I sat next to someone who applied to William & Mary. I mentioned that "William and Mary won't do" and he looked at me like I came from the planet Mongo. Wait, not really over the hill. We chikdren of the Seventies refuse to admit we are getting old. Our music. Oldies? No. It's "Classic Rock." Our jeans. Not extra large or stout , but . . . "relaxed fit". The mountain bike was invented to accommadate the extra "GVW" that the old 10 speed could no longer carry on its skinny tires. I digress.Just one favor. TOUR DAMMIT! Multiple shows as I have a life and am employed and cannot spend my day on speed dial to Ticketmaster.
Sincerely.
The Bookkeepers' Son
Name: DrMu
can't sleep
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 22:44:08
Comments:
Any preferences on Walter Becker guitar solos? ...Always been partial to "Home at Last," but I'm diggin' the cry/sing of Walter over the top of Michael Omartian's bouncing chords on "Bad Sneakers" tonight.
Name: DrMu
Oh, waiter
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 21:42:43
Comments:
Ok, it looks like after you all get back for KL
Name: DrMu
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 21:39:16
Comments:
festivalers: If you can handle the crustaceans, I recommend the barbecued shrimp and Pacale's Manally. Check out those pictures on the wall! Copeland's down the block ain't half bad either...I'm sure Zeke has it all planned.
With any luck, this one will have his hands on the re- re- mastered Katy Lied when you all are in New Orleans (gotta concentrate on those short-term goals). It will be interesting to hear if it will just sound a little cleaner or if "The Immortal" will massage it electronically a bit...is it just me or does it sound like Chain Lightning was probably damaged less by the noise reduction system snafu...still sounds better than anything else form '75. I know Aja is a slicker, fuller sounding opus, but the passion, oomph and musicianship of Katy Lied have never been duplicated.
number: bravo, a verse of natural nomenclature
Ole: thank yaweh for the care package...a masterpiece
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 21:26:18
Comments:
For all you lucky stiffs fortunate enough to get to the Danfest; How about appointing a correspondent to log on and give us the blow by blow. Oleander, are you going to connect with the owner and/or Maitre D at dinner to set the mood with some carefully selected tunes from our heroes? Why not start off with "Here at the Western World" or "Any Major Dude?" You can tell I'm so fucking jealous and eager for something different, especially at the tail end of a Canadian winter and that one month gap until the weather becomes more civilized on a consistent basis. Oh, "Olie," will you toast the "Fest" with champagne, or perhaps some Napoleon Brandy? I've never met him...you know the rest
All the best to those in attendance.
Razor Boy
Green with envy, wearing Green Earings.
Name: oleander
in the Festilential ooze
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 19:55:22
Comments:
lisa, Doc, & other confirmed and potential Danfesters--I am READY! Let's give Stefani something he can talk about. Will be arriving Thurs. afternoon--Little Feat sounds like a big yes. Anything we can do to persuade your friend, Doc? We have our ways.... Zeke suggested dinner at Pascal Manally's Friday and a group grok on Sat. I'm in.
Stef--Charlie Hunter came to a theatre near me and was very cool. Now what else were you saying?
Ab--Isn't someone already doing that? That's a rumor, anyway.
Number--That was good.
Edd--If you didn't it would be a pitney.
Geena--Really. But if you want to pick a date, I taped another piece of paper onto my list.
BF--Ooooh. I'll have to hold on my millennium plans. That would be the BEST.
Name: Geena
missing y'all
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 19:00:06
Comments:
OMIO: When life pisses me off I close my eyes and travel back to my Bay Area days. It's nice to hear they're still having the concerts with all those fine Bay Area musicians. It used to be free, when did they start charging admission? My guess would be Jeff Baxter because Don and Walt are not from SF.
Oleander: Should I give up on the betting pool? I say whenever it comes out will be fine with me, good things come to those who wait ya know.
The Abbey: I think VH1 should give SD the same respect they gave Leif Garret and that moron from Metallica, James Hetfield, no offense to those who like him. I saw his interview and he's definitely stuck on himself in an adolescent sort of way.
Lisa: "Oh show me the way to the next titty bar, oh don't ask why…..".
Darling, it's good to see you back! Still waiting for a reply to my last e, was it something I said???
Stranger: do you really thing Stefani is a bitch? Only another woman knows and she knows Stefani is a man, but then again, I've heard of some men who do enjoy donning a pair of stilettos once in a while…maybe Miss Stefani does. Oh and yes, the check's in the mail!
Big Fan: where is this crystal ball you're hiding? the one that shows you the future of SD?
Tell Ruby Baby I miss her
Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 16:09:17
Comments:
I see where HK Management in Los Angeles, who also manages SD has picked up Aerosmith - not bad company. Link:
http://www.boston.com:80/dailyglobe2/092/living/Jewel_in_the_roughP.shtmlI am foreseeing a New Year's bash by SD in NYC for Y2K. Now I had planned to stay around the bunker until the radioactive dust had settled. But a SD concert in the Big Apple might just make me pop my head up.
Name: lisa
P.G.A.(pompous geriatric assholes?)
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 14:13:35
Comments:
stranger: move a little to the left and i'll hover over you...and btw, why don't you charge a new orleans ticket to your publisher and meet me for a drink?
doc kelly: little feat is a definite...e me, you bbq master.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 10:18:47
Comments:
Zeke/Lisa/Ole/Clas: I may not be able to come to the Fest if I have to drive... I'm attempting to coerce a buddy with a plane to fly me down for the Little Feat show on the 2nd Thursday... maybe even a day earlier... I have to be home on Friday afternoon. How 'bout a gathering at Little Feat... if not before.
Name: TheStranger
south of the bay
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 09:15:02
Comments:
q,
thanks for spelling it out. sometimes i try to have a life and so i don't have all the time i would like to untangle the obtuse from this guestbook.stefani,
man, you are one nasty, intelligent bitch. but don't try walking on my back in your high heels. it'll make me cry.lisa,
nice to know you're hovering.
Name: Q
FLORIDAROOM@does that help?
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 08:34:07
Comments:
Here we go again !
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/majrdudejpn.JPGand referencing SteveV 's post - here's the highly rare East St. Louis promo slv for radio stations - slv contains one sided East St. Louis promo 45 which is'nt too rare by itself.
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/eastslv.JPG
More fun later,Q
Name: lisa
pipe dre@ms
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 05:53:52
Comments:
first off: can i just say that i hate golf? if i have to give one more greasy freak with a bag of clubs directions to the titty bar, i'm gonna go postal.
zeke: my band of merry muses with be arriving in slidell tuesday the 27th, and i believe clas will be there the 24th (in slidell also)...wanna get together before the weekend?
rose: still here observing the ebb and flow of steely dandom...as i'm sure you noticed, recent content doesn't generally merit a reply...i continue to linger in the folds, ever vigilant, hoping for the occasional kinky post.
rigs/lester/q: any of you guys coming to the gathering in new orleans? somebody go by and pick up the fair aja on your way, will ya?
other people wanting to converge and dangle like a scrotum (sorry...my early morning analogies lack the advantage of forethought) can e me: lisalove@pinehurst.net
Name: Edd
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 03:10:54
Comments:
"Wasn't he Liberty's brother?"
I'm not sure. I hate guessing, but I suppose I could af-ford to give it a shot...
Name: ET
almond eyes
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 03:06:58
Comments:
Stefani: You've got guts. I like that. Too bad you're stupid. Stupid to the point of displaying it here on the hippest forum in the universe. If you want some attention other than mine then just keep on being stupid. Otherwise, prepare for an anal probe and a chance to be on Strange Universe.
A Bargain at 87 Times Earnings,
ET
Name: Number
feel like a
Date: Friday, April 2, 1999 at 02:54:42
Comments:
Gonna bring it all home tonight
Every little scratched Josie
Every Fu ManchuGonna wet your appetite
For the celebrity expecting you
And who said "left hand blue?"
It was "right foot green"
Right foot green
Is that understood?He doesn't make a single sound as he whirlwind's Townshend down.
But every joke about Roger's voice bring's Minnesota back to town.
And who can interfere with a shot that's made once a year?
Ask Norman Clature
For the odds
Of two against nature
Name: The Abbey
STEELYFOOL@yahoo.com
Location: Charlotte, NC US
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 22:54:40
Comments:
Dan fans, do you feel that music journalism in the 90's has shun the story of our favorite duo? If you want to do something about it, help me by writing to VH1 and expressing how much you and others would like to see a Behind the Music (better yet, an episode of Legends) covering the history and unique story of Steely Dan. If VH1 can do a biography of Leif Garret or Tony Orlando, they can give The Dan respect. www.vh1.com is where you'll be able to access their email chanel. Thanks.
The Abbey
Name: Stefani
STEFONZI@AOL.COM
Location: Chicago,
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 22:43:39
Comments:
Let me point out to regular contributors and speed readers alike; it seems you're losing focus. Thanks for all your wild speculation, trivial pursuits, lists of lists, name drops, meloprops and other brilliant deductions and incongruencies. Maybe I've missed it but has anyone written a critical review of Brian Sweet's SD book? Tell me about IT SUCKS! What a waste of time. Forget it you're a bunch of losers anyway.
just kidding, or rather we're still friends anyway, right?
Last and least; (f.u.) to any and all dunderhead wannabe politicos, spouting bileous code words to slam and defame our beloved religious right, moral majority, benevolent Republicans. Get a life. Do some homework. Study politics outside of Rolling Stone or Hustler for that matter y'jerk offs. It happens SD produced the least overt and consequently the most effective political art of our times. Some of you don't get it and probably think the title track Royal Scam says it all. Careful the 'kultursmog' can kill you. Just ask Al Gore. Better yet ask Vince Foster, Ron Brown, or Jim McDougel.
You sound like self-righteous, whinning schoolboys. It's so unfucking cool.
In the mean time don't sweat it-surely some of us know that the beautiful one...the one and only one desert island pick is the Mister Steely Dan box. You'll never get a new age progressive/ alternative, do ask, do tell fag to give it up.
In preparation for the this year's SD release, clear your palette with James Blood Ulmer's Captain Black with Ornette (import), Ween-Pure Guava (doesn't always work}, Brian Eno, Warm Jets, Before & After Science, Music for Airports come to mind,
Col.Bruce Hampton & the Aquarium Rescue Unit is far enough removed, if you can't find this go for Zappa's One Size Fits All. Skip Jeff Beck (you dumb idiots)look for 8-stringer Charlie Hunter comming to a theatre near you if you're lucky.
Name: Rigs
yappledapple
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 21:33:53
Comments:
Hi folks,
CCCRRRRRRRRCCRRRRR(sounds from my hamm radio). I heard Rikki on the way home from work around sunset. The Dan is alive and well in Sarasota FL. Sounds like someone lost there number here.lol Have a groovey day folks.
Name: KTDid
fluff@fluster
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 18:54:55
Comments:
Aaaah.Gdaahsoppah.
paperscissorsheeitrock.
Name: Yürg
YnOT
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 18:36:56
Comments:
hell man, i say it's already out.
Name: Maxine
sdfan.maxine@writeme.com
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 18:14:28
Comments:
November 2? What does THAT do to the prospect of a tour?
SD2K, perhaps?
Name: oleander
tell Donna I love her
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 18:08:33
Comments:
Edd--Wow as usual. Wasn't he Liberty's brother?
OK, I'm ready now for the next wave of betting pool (hereinafter to be known as "The Zeno's Paradox New One Pool") dates.
Name: Zeke
Y2K, bring it on, man!
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 13:09:47
Comments:
Just checkin' in.
Hey, Don, Walt, take all the time you need, brother.Ole,Clas,Doc: How are the plans going for the Fess? The official Fess brochure is out! 1999 will be the 30th year. I say we should meet on the 2nd Saturday, Steve Miller, Allen Toussaint, George Porter, I'm sure there's something we can groove on.
Gaucho on the box today. The entire CD set on "repeat".
My Rival has that funky HB3 sound in the background.Joe Pass. He's the man.
Name: Q
FLAGELLATIONROOM
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 10:51:58
Comments:
ever heard of the song ?
November !!!!.... somebody call DBX maybe the nightmare has happened again......shades of Katy Lied !
Q
PS I want to be in Donald's mother's will !
Name: hobbyhorse
again
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 09:43:57
Comments:
Woah! The steely dan release date on the reprise webpage has moved from Aug to Nov. This is not an april fool's joke, see for yourself. http://www.repriserec.com/newreleases/
Name: hobbyhorse@yahoo.com
finally!
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 09:27:01
Comments:
some updates on the official site!. Not much news as far as I can see but at least we know they haven't given up entirely or died. Nice letter about Griffin.
Name: Yürg Touique
fl@vrsavr
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 09:17:06
Comments:
Having spent years in the cuban district of Tampa Florida, I would guess that flaroom is Florida room. or perhaps flaggelation room. same thing.
Thank You,
YT
Name: TheStranger
musing
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 09:10:12
Comments:
somebody ask q -- what's a flaroom?
is imo 'in my opinion' or 'i'm mentally overdue?'
i thought bay area meant bay of pigs. i was all set to invade cuba, this time with a cargo container full of designer jeans to trade for u.s. dolares.
donald & walter appear to be discussing a new album more to psyche themselves up than us. so if they don't get it done this time, it's truly over. how many times can you say the check's in the mail and the dog ate my homework?
Name: OMIO
between the raindrops
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 08:55:05
Comments:
LTNF: Way too many Bays for my mental ability.. Just thought a West Coast get-together might be fun, especially with some good
live music, good weather & exotic insects on the grill.. The party is for real, but in the planning stages.. Could be worth the trip, though.. If We've Got Scenes To Crash, might as well be a scene with a view..
Name: Mock Turtle
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 07:40:42
Comments:
Hey Q,
Keep me in mind when you're writing your will.
Name: Q
danman1@tampabay.rr.com
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 06:15:39
Comments:
Micheal C. Packard pls email me @ trade - I lost your email address.
Q
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 05:31:01
Comments:
It's my work # ! Good thing I did'nt put the toll free out !
SteveV that pic sleeve is very rare - it is estimated less than 100 were made as they were made only for distribution to the
largest radio stations in the country.I will scan an example of one for the GB - unless you'd like to do the honors.........
Q
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, April 1, 1999 at 01:26:09
Comments:
"...phone number in this guestbook..." Phonenumber? Where? Where!?
Roy Scanner - that was a great line.
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