User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: ztevie- I think it's actually John Densmore who's suing the other two guys in the Doors. In my opinion, as much as I love the surviving members of the Doors, continuing it is a mistake. When you think of the Doors, the first thing you think of is Jim. That's before the songs or anything or anybody else. Putiing in Ian Astbury makes it worse. It might ruin his reputation rather than helping him or re-energize The Cult.
LEAVE THE DOORS ALONE! ROBBIE AND RAY, PLEASE LEAVE IT ALONE.
Still waiting for a stop in Pittsburgh for my boys :(
User: ztevie | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: yezz blaizer ! it appearz zat zum catz iz back in de houze ! parodeze zurround !
blazed ! day made !
clas, i did find it interesting that mcdonald never TOUCHES a keyboard in the dvd concert...
wormy, molly also referred to that album ("alegria") as like audio crack. might as well... have all the rest of wayne's and nearly everything he's even played on. random shorter solo of the day: "end of the innocence" by don henley. a melodic solo masterpiece. i've transcribed every note of it. brilliant !
yes the doors thing is way not flattering to all parties. jim would say "whatever, let the guys make a few bucks". hell, stewart copeland is suing them. WAY not flattering...
i beg to differ over the dynamic range of of an accordian or it's close relative, the bandoneon. varying air pressure creates a huge and subtlely controlled expressive capability. have never played one but have listened to enough astor piazzolla to be declared a honorary gypsy...
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS!!!
DVD-As for EMG and KamaKamaKamaKamaKamaKamiriad will be in and shipped on June 10th and June 24, respectively!!:
http://buydvdnow.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=Pre
User: oleander.............................good-bad, not evil | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: wormtom--good to dig you again!
Hey Pink!
tones, if you're still interested in that illicit compilation, e me.
Before there was anagram software, there were Dan-a-grams from the fevered brain of Norvis Pidner: http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/danagrams.htm
So here's an itch I think I got scratched: Know that line in "Almost Gothic"--"It's called love--I spell L-U-V"? It's been bugging me since day one. Sounded too familiar. So I found a copy of the Shangri-Las' greatest hits, and in "Give Him A Great Big Kiss," of course, we have "When I say I'm in love, you best believe I'm in love L-U-V." (A few of you moldy figs may remember this song. It's a lot of song packed into 2:10, with some other immortal lines, like "'Well, what color are his eyes?' 'I don't know, he's always wearin' shades'" and "'Is he a good dancer?' 'Waddaya mean is he a good dancer?' 'Well, how does he dance?' 'Close... very, very close....'") Coincidence? You decide. I've always had a soft spot for this tough trio.
Wistfully watching the ticket scramble.... I'm in for DC and hoping desperately for some Southern dates.
User: Hutch | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Just ordered the BB mp3 from Reprise. And I'm getting ready to pre-order EMG to help with the cause. New SD Newsletter.
Can't get TLM out of my head (that's a GOOD thing)... love that walkin' bass on the bridge.
Clas - You're right about the space. Hear the rhythm guitarist on the left channel playing on the upbeat between 1 and 2? The snare hits right on the 2 but the rhythm chink is just before it. Makes it swing doesn't it?
Hutch
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Q&A by William Gibson - interesting question halfway down:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;$sessionid$41CRBCKLP0PORQFIQMFSFGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/arts/2003/04/27/bogibqs.xml
User: Josh | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: scf.usc.edu/~younger/st.jpg
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: I'm going to Jones Beach, Aja....and I have at least one extra ticket, not on the floor, but first (I think) section up from the stage, slightly left.
YGK--got you covered, baby. We'll settle up later. You're also going to JB.
I am hosting the Danfest at Jones Beach for those who haven't heard me wax about it yet, since I live about 8 miles from there.
LadyB
User: DACW - LMAO | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Bill: That's the Hat Too Flat Trick...HeHeHe
User: Aja...............back@work, not working | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Who's going to the Jones Beach show? Am seriously considering going-airfare is cheap, tix on sale, credit card at the ready, finger quivering dangerously on the "send" button..............
Aja
User: lp | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: nybill - LOL!!!
User: DACW - I hear some Walter? | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message:
Blues Beach
Drums: Keith Carlock
Piano: Ted Baker (left channel)
Wurlitzer: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Donald Fagen (right channel)
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Jon Herington (left channel - rhythm)
Guitar: Walter Becker? (12 o'clock during bridge)?
Guitar: Hugh McCracken (right channel - no slack in the tension)
Backup singers: Donald Fagen, Cynthia Calhoun or similar (left channel - "gropin' in the dark"), Carolyn Leonhart or similar (right channel - "chillin' and the Manatee bar")
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: St. Al, the issue is not whether they can play Doors music -- ANYONE can play the songs so long as the venue pays the BMI/ASCAP fees. The issue is whether they can attach the "Doors" name to the band. That would be the same issue even if they wrote new originals, plays covers of Phish or performed only Jim Morrison penned tracks.
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: None Radio is an internet radio station co-hosted by Mike Keneally. The debut 4 hour show was webcast Monday nights and will be repeated 24 hours a day until the next live show this coming Monday.
It is true that on the debut Mike played Astronomy Domine and talked a bit about A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd. But that's no reason to avoid the program ;-0 Mike is spinning a lot of very interesting rock/jazz/metal fusion tracks for your listening pleasure. The URL is http://www.noneradio.com and I also placed the URL in My Homepage above
User: Blues Beach? | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Worm was scrapin' bottom
Toiling in the dark.
It takes a slimy worm to really beat
the mean soil of Jazz Park
So he wiggled left and out of town
Dug a trench in the dirt and he beat it down
to Blues Beach
He's frying
Sizzlin' in the merciless rays
and it's a long sad story of an early decline.
Blaise went to Central Station
to catch southbound train or bus
The cold had gotten to him, but no train or bus was for us
Here come Monique, child bride
He say "hey little lady can I cop a feel (uh ride) to
Blues Beach"
It's snowing
Chillin' at the Manatee Bar
and there will be no picnic for the early declined.
gima/tima LOL
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: nah, piano's starts about 10:30 then seems to move right sometimes - like the bridge to about 2 o'clock
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: The problem with chillin' at the beach is water in the ears...now that's better!!!!
That's definitely "Medicine Park" (Nookyular fallout? ....fits in well with frying in (n) merciful rays
it's "Paranymphic Glider"
"Hypothetical ???" doesn't *sound* like friend but could be
StAl: the caliope thingy this is a combo of the piano theme Monster hook in unison with the Wurlitzer...
note: the following represents current hallucination by a middle aged male of similar height and weight to DACW...
Blues Beach
Drums: Keith Carlock
Piano: Ted Baker (left channel)
Wurlitzer: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Donald Fagen (right channel)
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Jon Herington (left channel - rhythm)
Guitar: Hugh McCracken (right channel - no slack in the tension)
Backup singers: Donald Fagen, Cynthia Calhoun or similar (left channel - "gropin' in the dark"), Caroline Leonhart or similar (right channel - "chillin' and the Manatee bar")
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: One other thing that bothers me...
I printed out the tickets and down at the left it says the following;
"WARNING! Despite enhanced spectator shielding measures pucks may still
fly into the spectator area. Serious injury can occur. Stay alert at all
times including during warmup and after play stops. If struck, immediately
ask usher for directions to medical station."
Hmmm... I guess D&W have added a few things to the show since last time.
Angel,
Orchestra Section A, Row B, Seats...
(Nah, that would be giving the snipers far too much information I think.)
:)
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: LOL!!!!!
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Angel,
Well, I do have 2 tickets.
Of course you'd have to sit next to me during the entire concert and
that would be an experience in itself...
I'll be the guy yelling "Play Freebird!" and throwing popcorn.
:)
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Hey Bill, thanks for buying me a ticket.... ;-)
User: Keyshawn | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: St.Al- Why don't you just ask Walter yourself? You have his email address...don't you?
Blues Beach = New Frontier?????
Aus! How's EMG? Where are you big shot?
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Perception you say?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/doorssuit1.html
The problem they may face is the Doors published all their music as "The Doors" so I'd think Manzerek and Kreiger have a right to play this music live?
StAl
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: St. Al:
An accordion is blown.
A wurlitzer is plucked.
A calliope is struck.
It could be, Dr. Becker would think that the accordian - like its distant cousin, the pipe organ - doesn't like the sound of air through pipes or plastic for that matter.
There is no musical dynamics from either instrument in terms of inflection, touch, crescendo, etc. in that the tones and the volume thereof are merely played based on air going through a chamber.
The basic sound is merely flat, and any increase in volume/sound would be an increase in wind or a layering of sounds.
A wurlitzer has natural dynamics built in to the keyboard, and the sound responds directly to the touch.
Similarly, the calliope, but in a mallet/percussion kind of way......
So one could say that "Walter doesn't like Wind in his Rock and Roll".
ygk
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Question for you all. A long time ago Walter made a statement or two about how accordions didn't belong in rock and roll (or something to that affect).
If accordions are bad, why is a Wurlitzer ok? Or whatever that calliope sounding thing all over Blues Beach is?
Just wondering.
StAl
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: C: I knew YOU would pick up on the SPACE thing as well. Haven't heard that since Nightfly (DVD-A) and Gaucho...Great balance in the recordings I can tell on these MP3s, and the quality of BB MP3 is just fair, but I can hear what they're doing...a studio NYR&SR approach almost
Carlock is a very sneaky drummer. Sounds like he opens it up with his foot, hits it with the left hand then uses the right hand for the high hat while the left goes back to the snare...he's gotta a little shuffle going on...
TLM sounds like Confide in Me + Time Out of Mind
BB sounds like New Frontier + Tomorrow's Girls
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Angel,
Hope is not lost!
I called American Express a little while ago. If you apply for the
American Express card and are approved they will give you a code so
that you can order the pre-sale tickets.
I just did it and got orchestra section seats to Jones Beach.
Dead center of the orchestra section, two rows back.
WHEW!
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Bill: My exact thoughts and feelings. I have several people who could have bought me the tickets, but my feeling is F-them. My money isn't good enough for you, tough. I was going to fly in and everything. Well, NYC, too bad! Your loss of my tourist income.
User: mastercard | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: remember those mastercard commercials
"but they don't take American Express..."
how bout the opposite
New York City Dan Fans..
got some dime dancing to do?
interested in the latest from Don and Walt
pack up your Volvo and get on down to Jones Beach
but don't forget your American Express card
or you'll be sitting in the rafters
User: C | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Bill - how about Uncasville then?
User: C & W | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: W - Lena's and my old school friend, Carro, her mother, our Teacher in Religon too (burrrr...), she met a man somewhere in US. When she decided to move to USA, Carro had to follow, and she met a guy and he came from Louisiana, and you know, love, make love, kids, holy matrimony... we've had contact over all these years, that's how it is.
And I hate that long bridge over the lake.
That's a 4 mgs Xanax Bridge. Or a 3 Beer Bridge. Ouch!
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: SD tickets for Jones Beach go on pre-sale this morning at 9am, BUT
there's a catch... You must have an American Express card to order!
I don't carry American Express anymore so I guess I'm pretty much fucked
in so far as getting a decent seat for this concert. I'll have to wait
until May 3rd to order but if I can't get the seats I want for this show
then I won't go at all.
I gaurantee that every decent seat for this show will be gone by 12 noon.
How fucked up is that? I consider it to be another trick, in a long list
of motherfuckin' tricks, that concert promoters have sprung on the music
buying public.
I'm so pissed right now that I might not even go to the PNC show or the
Mohegan Sun show either. Fuck it!
User: wt | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: actually Clas
it's been quite pleasant
then again another week or so and it's 6 months of shall we say
warm weather
so how did you ever hook up with the slidell contingent?
t
User: C & W | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Wormy - I heard from the Encapsulated Reporters in Slidell that it's almost summer down in Louisiana.
User: wormy | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: pleasant topsoilantries
Hey Blaise wasn't sure if you were back here or not
It's nice to be back if only occasionally
StevieDan was soley missed
I decided to go virginal on the new dan disc
it is encouraging to read the various insights on the new pieces
one knock I had on TaN was the repetitive sampled drumming
nearly ruined the brilliant West of Hollywood
Stevie - garage de trois is doing the fest and late night circuit here
I hope to catch Los Lobos and John Mayer on thursday (hi Jim#)
my latest pick Wayne Shorter's Allegra
same quartet - Wayne is less color pastiche and more dominant
Chris Potter's traveling Mercies is yet another stellar disc from last year
cheers all
Tom
User: Blaise Beotch | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: Best news I've heard lately is that they're about to legislate against spam. Gawd, am I sick of that.
Now, imagine your mailbox without it. I know it's tough, but what utopia, eh?
Freeze frame! Nobody move and it's like the old days here. I'm posting right behind Clas and prodigal son stevie dan! Who would have thunk it?
And I see worm tom is around. Long time no read, buddie.
All this, just as the blue book is starting to get on my nerves.
There might be a gawd after all.
Diggin' the new tunes very much, I gotta say. I don't remember being that excited about a Dan record, even the last one. I feel this one will be superior, from what I can tell so far.
But since I can write intelligibly about it, I didn't get a full advanced copy.
And like Clas said, there's more to it than initially meets the ear.
Love the newfound liveliness.
User: C | Month: 3 | Day: 30
Message: db - the nicotene patches, not the songs.
Darn.
User: C @ Work | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: I mentioned earlier, or a while ago, that the Swedish singer/songwriter Mauro Scocco managed to get Mike mcDonald to play keyboards on one of his songs on his new album "Beat Hotel". I read an interview with Scocco where he says that when he asked mcDonald (someone knew someone who knew someone who was arranging the mcDonald-tours in Scandinavia) if he wanted to come down to the studio and do the parts, Mike was very humbled and said; -Oh no, I am so bad, I am a lousy studioplayer, I can't remember chords and stuff.
So they had to send the files to Nashville where mcDonald could do his keyboard-stuff in peace and quiet.
When he was asked how much he wanted for the job he said; -Nothing.
Pretty cool.
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: dunc ! don't SMOKE them, dude !
i find that anagrams and emerson quotes are a nice part of the continuum...
"steviedan album of the week"(TM): "garage a trois" featuring guitarist charlie hunter and galactic drummer stanton moore. swinging second line grooves against just the right amount of miles' dark evil noise.
bbWWWaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAA
BOOM !!!
User: C & W | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: db - yeah, they taste like shit already in the mouth.
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: AHA!
The Two are cheating, or maybe it's just a little Gaslight? Listen ca 1:40 into the Blues Beach, a rainy rider (cymbal) is coming in on the right channel, and the hi-hat continues as if nothing has happened in the left channel.
Or is he a three armed drummer that... what's his name again? Kockburn? Dave Clark?? Mickey Dolenz???
Listening to these two songs, The Last Mall and Blues Beach, reminds me of how much space there is between the instruments, still things happens all the time.
Great shit.
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: these nicotene patches taste like shit !!!!
User: suedave | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: DACW - keep up the good work... musta been hell keeping that ice cream frozen in the desert, nice find, just think of all the energy saved.
Here's a little test for you all - or click above.
http://www.humorsphere.com/fun/colortest.swf
Susan
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: YGK: I officially declare Erica Hill a Dan Babe - she was reporting on a techfest coming up Sunday...she's so cool and hip...turns here head just right when she laughs...although I'm suspecting a replicant even more advanced that Sean Young...
Got another techbabe from CNN for ya. She's Iranian - guess this one slipped away from the Ayatollahs!
http://www.jezweb.com/bachelors2001/Rudi%20Bakhtiar_03.jpg
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: ....[static]....Slow progress in the Southern front today. We camped last night near the hamlet of Brenham...There we found clear signs of food of mass destruction being manufactured in a plant by the Locals. Yes, that's right...we invaded the Blue Bell Ice Cream factory. I must applaud the efforts of galliant men and women who sacrified their digestive systems by disarming these WMDs...Each of our Special Ops, who were in top shape, was able to consume at least two gallons each of Tin Roof Sundae or Rocky Road. At this time reinforcements from Louisiana including Corpsy V were able to help us in the proper disposal of the deadly Heavenly Pecan and Cookies & Cream. I am happy to report no fatalities and just two cases of severe nausea...
...one of our Special Ops groups has been moving farily carefully through the Western outskirts of San Antonio, hindered by large congregations of human shields in Fiesta Texas and SeaWorld...however their Special training has allowed them to use Shamu to sniff out and destroy quickly dangerous transistor radios playing Clear Channel stations!! We did lose a supply convoy briefly as they took a wrong turn at New Braunfels and ended up "tubing" at Schlitterbahn. Major Mu is concerned about reveal...[static] ...identity, because we have reports that they ended up in the filming of a "Girls Gone Wild" video....
...Major Mu has also just been in contact with Captain Chuck Rainey of the North Texas front command...he's passed on a cease fire comminique from the Dallas Clear Chanel Mind Control division. They're surrounded and waving a khaki flag, but NT freedom forces have to move very carefuly, because they're Tricksy!...I'm passing on the communique now as I hear it in my ear:
"Dear DanAudioCrackWhore,
Thank you for the very descriptive 'communication.' I have forwarded your request to our program director who makes all the music decisions for our station.
Anna de Siecle"
PS: Come up to my place later and bring a quart of Blue Bell
Our troops in the Northern front are excited and encouraged by this first crack in the armor of the enemy, Captain Rainey tells us... and I'm just receiving word from the North Texas front that there is wild sooting going on...no, looks like nothing dangerous...Captain Rainey tells us that our troops are just letting off a bit of steam firing into the air, and this is blending nicely into the background sporadic shootin' and whorin' that constantly go on the the Dallas area...
Now back to the studio and Aaron Brown for another hour of "I Think I'll Break the Lithium in Half Next Time" [static]
User: why | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: are these anagrams supposed to be entertaining?
User: Bill Safire | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: Donald Fagen:
Alan fed dong
Dana! End Flog!
Fandango Led
Alden? Fan God!!!!!
Ad fangled?? No!
Alfa-End: DONG!!!!!
Ad: Flag Neon.
Dad? Fang Noel!
Fade and Long
Fanged Nodal
:0)
User: lp | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: love the anagrams, makes me remember the possibilities of what L and P stood for - a trip to the archives, lol
just posting that the island today is glorious - had a meeting with the National Park and took a nice drive on the lesser known parts of the park road - stood and took in a wonderful view of Frenchman's Bay, all in its glory, preparing itself for the onslaught of summer visitation and boating, though the fishing boats are inhaling their catch without coordination with recreational boats - this is a fabulous time to be here, it is incredibly beautiful
forget the check out girls, get outside
ugh, but, back to work...
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: TOW ANTI REAGAN STU
Yeah Wormy, that works. :-)
----------------------------
I also liked the Steely Dan one from Bill Safire.
Dylan Tees
User: another anna graham | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: two against nature
A WAGNERIAN TOT STU
TOW A STAGNATE RUIN
TURN INTO A WASTAGE
SATIATE A GROWN NUT
NAUSEANT A WIG TORT
NIAGARA NEWS TO TUT
AGITATE WART NO SUN
TOW ANTI REAGAN STU
WAIT ON TEARGAS NUT
ARTESIAN WANG TOUT
SANITATE ON RAW GUT
AN ASTAIRE WONT TUG
NAUSEANT RAG TO WIT
AERONAUT SWATTING
~
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: Blues Beach playing right now on KCRW http://www.kcrw.org (simulcast)
User: C & W | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: I can't wait until the US boys "find" a couple of barrels in the Iraqi desert sand, with "mysterious chemical" stuff.
It has to happen, right?
User: StAlphonzo | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: Many people are inquiring about on sale dates for various shows this Summer. Patience and you will be rewarded. Here's the "official" word on this very subject.
SNIP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The local promoters decide when to "list"
(start announcing) a show and when
tickets should go on sale. They also occasionally
CHANGE on-sale dates, and/or decide to run internet presales.
Almost always, the first to know about all these
dates and changes are the major online ticket vendors.
This is why steelydan.com's [Tix] links on the touring page sends you directly to them: .
Of course, all dates are subject to change at all times.
But if that ticket vendor's page does not yet
display the show you are interested in, it is very likely
that the promoter has simply not yet determined an exact on-sale date (for any number of mundane/practical reasons) or wants to time
the announcement to coordinate with advertising to make the most
impact (plus not occur during another major entertainment
announcement in that region).
You get the idea. BUT when that date is determined, the
show will be listed with the ticket vendor, along with information on when the tickets go on sale and any additional info you will need to order.
That being said, things can move pretty quickly on occasion: It may
be announced on a Monday that Tix will go on sale that wednesday, as
an example. Also, an on-sale date can CHANGE to an EARLIER date with
very little notice. That's why we say that for the serious
ticket-buyer, it is IMPERATIVE that you MONITOR the [Tix} links we
provide on our touring page http://steelydan.com/emgtouring.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNIP
Thank you for your support.
Scott The Charmer: If you're reading this subscribe to the Seattle Danfest Registry for information on enGORGEment 2003. I'm not in charge of this years festivities. http://www.dandom.com/danfests/. Or, email me. Link above.
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: Mu, you're too funny....lmao Keep us informed. ;)
I was reading some poetry and wanted to share this one.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Fate
Deep in the man sits fast his fate
To mould his fortunes, mean or great:
Unknown to Cromwell as to me
Was Cromwell's measure or degree;
Unknown to him as to his horse,
If he than his groom be better or worse.
He works, plots, fights, in rude affairs,
With squires, lords, kings, his craft compares,
Till late he learned, through doubt and fear,
Broad England harbored not his peer:
Obeying time, the last to own
The Genius from its cloudy throne.
For the prevision is allied
Unto the thing so signified;
Or say, the foresight that awaits
Is the same Genius that creates.
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 29
Message: DACW= Dildo Acid Coming Warning.
There's no such thing as changing handles :-)
User: Mission Impossible | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Dr Mu - tell us when/if you find our guys wearing illegal chemicals, that's why you're there, isn't it?
/C
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Well no one here watches Six Feet Under (which surprises me) but they used Song for My Father in a scene with Brenda last Sunday
User: Luckless Pedestrian | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Where's Corpsy V?
User: Scotty | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: DACW - Excellent report. Keep up the good fight.
Thinking of enlisting in your cause and went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn't find any.
User: More SD album titles... | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: 1. Clearly Misunderstood
2. Definite Maybe
3. Working Vacation
4. Twelve-Ounce Pound Cake
5. Exact Estimate
6. Advanced BASIC
7. Found Missing
8. Resident Alien
9. Genuine Imitation
10. Taped Live
11. Diet Ice Cream
12. Passive Aggression
13. Almost Exactly
14. Same Difference
15. Synthetic Natural Gas
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Jimbo: Please email me.
StAl
User: anna | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Hey William Safire
I think you are on to something
anagrams have a way of reflecting reality
User: What's the difference between Kenny G and a machine gun? | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: A machine gun only repeats itself a hundred times...
User: Bill Safire | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Steely Dan:
Salted Yen
Dylan Tees
Lady Tense
Delay Sent
Salty Eden
Steal! Deny!
Eat Ned??? Sly.....
Tales Deny
Lay Nested
Slant Eyed
Dynast Eel
:0)
User: Lol... | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Is it too late to change the name of the album to MY ROUGH VIGNETTES?
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: After reading DACW's report from the field, I must say that I've never been as proud of our steely troops and our steely nation as I am right now. To think of the danger they're putting themselves in to liberate the airwaves - not just for themselves, but for *all* steely fans - fills my heart with steely pride.
So as a gesture of solidarity for the hard working men and women of the Minor Seventh Division, I'm having blue and yellow EMG flags and bumper stickers made up to be given out in malls across the country, and to be proudly displayed as a show of steely support for Operation Texas Storm.
free steely dan!
t
This just in: singer Faith Hill found herself in the middle of controversy today when she released a statement saying that she is, "...ashamed that Clear Channel Inc. is based in Texas". The statement astonished members of the press, mostly because the singer herself was born in Missouri. Matters were further complicated by the fact that the popular country singer retracted her statement later in the same press release, saying that she had been "mis-quoted" and "didn't mean to cause any trouble."
Sales of her lastest cd remain sluggish...
User: anna graham | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html
just a few choice anagrams
The Last Mall
HAMLET STALL
HALT AT SMELL
TALL SAT HELM
Blues Beach
A BELCH BE US
SHE BLAB CUE
CAB BEE LUSH
ALE BUSCH BE
Everything Must Go
GEE MOVING THY RUST
IV ENGORGE THY SMUT
SOVEREIGN TUG MYTH
MY ROUGH VIGNETTES
NO TURVY THEMES GIG
REMOVE STINGY THUG
MEET THY VIGOR GUNS
User: wormy | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: thanks Angel for the rebuttal list
top ten reasons everything must go!
11) whatever will fit in da kahte
10) just a bunch of rolex knock offs
9) the maid needs a few more little gold men to polish off on the mantle
8) it's Raineying Barney stones -
if your gonna skimp on session men, choose the bass player
7) from show folk in the sand to blues beach
6) 3 years and 4 months of house cleaning
5) where are we gonna ditch those swedish cookies?
4) EMG - extensive media groove
3) parting with McPartland
2) went back Jack and did it again
1) THe Last Mall - anagram - Hamlet Stall
User: DACW - I love the smell of internal memos in the morning | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: t and other loyal viewers: à.This is DanAudioCrackWhore embedded with Major Mu and the Minor Seventh Division reporting from Southeast Texas. I cannot reveal our exact whereabouts, but our company is nearing the 50 mile radius outside Houstonà
As you can see from the video phone our unit is currently well camouflaged by a herd of dairy cows. I understand from Major Mu that we will be moving out very soon. Our unit is equipped with high steel guage Suburbans and X500 Ford pickups protecting a precious cargo of secret Bar-B-Q sauce û progress though has been extremely slow, due to our need to constantly refuel!
Also, on a positive note, I CAN confirm that the battle against Clear Channel [static] àlast night with our Special Op force penetrating San Antonio and launching ôbunker bustersö into a ChuyÆs restaurant near Corporate headquarters where the CEO, CFO, and VPs were, according to Intelligence, having a Bush twin Special.. We did have to ôMacGyverö our bunker busters using wine and kerosene in 7-11 Big Gulf cups. But this morning, we think we do have indirect evidence that the CEO or perhaps some VPs have been taken our or at least wrapped in duct tape during the quick hit mission. We have just learned that there has been a video released on Al Jazeera of the Ruling Mays family surrounded by cheering throngs of San Antonio nativesàHowever, close inspection fast revealed that this film was likely a Adobe Photoshop doctored job. Lowry Mays' head had pasted on a Phoenix Suns uniform and was a dead giveaway û my chief engineer tells me that instead this was really Stephan Marbury and the Phoenix Suns crowd celebrating the last minute upset of the San Antonio Spurs late last night.
Special Ops in the San Antonio area have revealed to us that they have found a pocket of New Zealanders working in the mail room who will defect...and provide crucial intelligence in our operation. Remember in 1996 after the Telecommuncations Act was designed by Al Gore, passed by Congress, and signed by Bill ClintonàClear ChannelÆs first Act was to immediately INVADE New Zealand and acquiring 33.3% interest in the largest radio group in New Zealandàand there are many from both the North and South island who have bitter memories of the times that followed. Major Mu just got a call from Neil Finn and the Frenz group who have designed some real high tech Clear Channel jamming devices. This is a huge step up from the full chemical suits and gas mask system first designed by Skunk Baxter in Nevada a few years ago.
WeÆve been hearing sporadic fire and whoops all morning. Now, we seem to be under attack by bottle rockets, rifles, six shooters. ItÆs all around us. A primary source seems to be that barn over there.... Corporal Charlie Freak û looks like heÆs taken a Caterpillar Steam Shovel and dropped a 3 ton bomb of Sun Mountain CDs on the barn!!! KABLOIEEE!!!! ThereÆs still some sporatic firing continuingà as it has all morning. We have our own MOAB just in case. Brigadeer General Blaise can be flown in from Canada on a SARS-tipped missleàHeÆs not from Toronto, but since all Canadians look alike to Texans, this should workà
[static] àst handed a report that indicates that the sporadic firing weÆve been hearing this morning has been confirmed as just the Locals celebrating the NFL draft Saturday and Sunday!!!
This just in! Major Mu has just established First Contact with a Clear Channel radio jock babe. She is intrigued by wackiness and sheÆs HOT!!!!!! A word of caution, these delicate operations in the Cold War era all too often involved loss of critical classified information while under the spell of Russian femme fatale spiesà
[static] like Geraldo has just arrived on the sceneàI think he just swam in from Kuwait!
[Geraldo] I want you all out thereàjust point that video phone..thatÆs rightàI want you all to meet my new pals: Dan AudioCrackWhore and Major Muà
Let me ask you DanAudioCrackWhoreàcan I call you æWhore?àgreat. Why the operation? First, where did you get the name DanAudioCrackWhore?
[DACW]: Geraldo, between a Catholic upbringing and 20 years without a Steely Dan albumàthese things have a way of catching upàWeÆre concerned about millions of Americans growing up with only Britney Spears and Blink182 to fill there empty minds. Recent studies have show that this kind of audio stress results in a dramatic increase in free radicals in their little brainsàessentially turning their neural network of astrocytes and nerves into plaque-enveloped soup. These innocent people have had been imprisoned in an artistic environment without Elvis Costello or Miles Davis for over 20 years! àand just recently, Clear Channel has released the deadliest of all WMDs again, Celine Dion!!! For a while, she was thought to be retired or hanging out back in Canada or perhaps SyriaàWeÆre convinced the freedom of Blues Beach and The Last Mall is just what the Doctor ordered!!
[Geraldo] Now, Major Mu û tell us about your plan now that you have established an intelligence contact deep within Clear Channelà
[Major Mu] We have to play it very safe GeraldoàsheÆs young, but the Clear Channel Dark side of the Force may be strongà
Our unit, however, has trained with rigor and great discipline. First, we watched hour after hour of ôStar Search.ö WeÆve got the Britney episodes, Justin Timberlake, Alannis Morrisette way back to Jenny Jonesàthen we listen to many agonizing hours of David Foster keyboards, after he lost his way upon leaving the mentorship of Quincy JonesàOur men and women are dedicated. TheyÆre up to the job Geraldo! While we canÆt reveal our position and planàpay for play has been banned, but not play for food or sexual favorsàWe are still hoping to hear that Colonel Wormy and the 4th Infantry have recovered from the food poisoning they received from those Turkey sandwiches they ate at DennyÆs two nights ago, and can reinforce our flank!
Wait, Geraldo û what are you writing in the sand!!??? Aàwhatà 69! You idiot!
[DACW] We have just come under heavy fire by some soccer momsàweÆll have to be moving outàIÆll try to report lateràwe may try to hide in a mall on the wayà [static]à
User: Dano | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Sorry Couldnt resist.........
When does Saddam have his Dinner?
When Tariq Aziz
Roll on Saturday......Music of the Dan and Lagered up?
Dano.
User: Larry | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Wow! The last top ten list I saw on this guestbook was when Wormy was here two years ago.
Matt- If Blues Beach was so "dissapointing" why do you want a better copy?
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: The Worm is going for Virginity here....LOL
Ten reasons to listen and listen often.
10. Rolling carts, turn me on.
9. Hubby works the box store.
8. Don't have to listen so hard to the radio station you are monitoring, when you know the song by heart.
7. Donald's voice. (Nuff said).
6. Get to trade lyrical Fours with the Blaise man.
5. Ear candy, can't get enough.
4. It's Donald and Walter.
3. Love being on a Danolicious high all the time.
2. Beach Boys music turns me on. (see a trend here) ;-)
1. It's Donald and Walter!
User: ~ correction | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: 7) "three years" four months
User: wormy | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: top ten reasons not to listen to The Last Mall or Blues Beach
1) you can actually scroll past Dan content spoilers
2) kazza doesn't have it yet
3) soon you can spend $40 on ebay for the promo copy
4) hearing others enjoying it early doubles the pleasure
5) computer audio quality leaves a lot to be desired
6) less "gee I like it too" posts cluttering up the yellow
7) two years 4 months is not that long a time frame
8) imagining that bostonian "Kaht" pronunciation is half the fun
9) 29 seconds is too limiting
10) 6/10/03
11) no wading through Kenny G on the radio stream cast
12) have your own stone soul picnic of Nyro references
User: Matt | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Anyone know where we can get a decent copy of BLues Beach (high quality bitrate) - even better, advance copy of EMG? ;-)
parody_@hotmail.com (don't send files here, please).
Gaucho full-band *rarities* that I've "remastered" in Wavelab, to exchange if anyone can help...
Can't help but feel dissapointed we aren't treated to a re-working of aforementioned Gaucho discards; 2nd Arrangement, I Got The Bear, Kind-Spirit, etc - Blues Beach just isn't on a par as far as I'm concerned. Last Mall is promising and catchy, but still too polished and pedestrian.
Matt
UK
User: Matt | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Anyone know where we can get a decent copy of BLues Beach (high quality bitrate) - even better, advance copy of EMG? ;-)
parody_@hotmail.com (don't send files here, please).
Gaucho full-band rarities that I've "remastered" in Wavelab, to exchange if anyone can help...
Matt
UK
User: Matt | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Blues Beach...very dissapointing!
Last Mall - Great, but irritatingly fiddly guitar work?
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Question...
Tickets for the PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ through ticketmaster
appear to be $30. They show as "General Admission Standing Room".
Does this mean that you can't reserve a better seat at this venue?
I'm going to wait for the Jones Beach tickets to go on sale but the
PNC tickets seem to indicate that the earlier you arrive the better
your seats will be.
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: tones - I just saw a story that said the PNC Center in New Jersey is operated by Clear Channel. Can't avoid 'em completely...
User: Beerberian | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Lp; Or is that a Swinging Twisted Sister ?
Both Last Mall & BB take a bit of listening to ..... lots of twiddly widdly bits to take on board - I do hope we get at least one rip snorting axe solo and two soaring sax breaks on the album - no evidence as yet ?
User: Luckless Pedestrian at home | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: blues beach reminds me of a twisted swing out sister
deep thought for today...
User: C @ W | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Pictures from Barcelona:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/galleri/paris
Or follow the URL above.
User: Out of town, back to Town... out again, then back... | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: Cyn - Cheddar is fine with me, as long as we're talking cheese.
Hutch - take your time. I aint got anything either. Yet.
I thought we'd let The Two have their fifteen minutes first, then we're doing our thing, right?
W1P? - thanx - I'll try to sort out that stuff.
---
I read a funny line in a magazine on The Royal Dutch Airways (that's their name, Gina?):
"Whether it's fun going to bed with a good book depends a great deal who's reading it."
I'm considering myself a lucky cat, I've had, and still have, fun going to bed every night.
/C
User: Be the first kid on YOUR block ... | Month: 3 | Day: 28
Message: So I was listening to Blues Beach last night when I felt like typing the lyrics for the song into the old computer ... then, after I had done that, I decided to play along with the song ... then, after doing that a few times, I decided to make one of my chord charts for the song.
The Blues Beach chart is done ... but the fun is just beginning !
SteveeDan
User: tones - taking fm mountain x strategy | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: DACW - ah pitty tha foolz! They don't realise the irresistable force that is a Dan fan close to a release date! Especially a (the?) DACW!! Who they think they're messin with?!! I give 'em a week before both songs are in heavy rotation coast to coast...
Now I don't know how to fly a crop duster (unless it's remote controlled and the controls resemble my N64 paddle), but I'm totally willing to help toilet paper any of the Clear Channel office complexes. Let me know if there's any way we can coordinate an assault...
On a serious note, there's been talk in the industry that some bands were having trouble making Clear Channel playlists if they didn't agree to play CC owned sheds. The Dan might be too big (and too good) for them to blow off completely, but it will interesting to see how much attention EMG gets from them. And it makes me wonder if CC already has the songs and are being slow to play them because leg one of the tour is so CC free...
Oh, and DACW... that traumatic "assault-by-Lou Rawls" was actually part of your basic training as a Steely FM Commando, because if you can survive that you'll be ready for the terrrifying *MUSIC of MASS DESTRUCTION* you're sure to find within the dark towers of Clear Channel Inc. They've been known to use *really* toxic stuff like "Celine" and "Bolton" in horribly inhumane ways...
free steely dan!
t
User: jjeff | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: St. Al:P.Gabriel is playing the Molson Amphitheater in Toronto on July 4.
I'd love to go but summer schedule is already booked. Such is the life of a full timer with no lee-way in his job.
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: jjeff: personalized messages have been sent deep into the heartr of darkness...no honey mustard here - B-BQ sauce will have to do. McCain, Feingold, Hatch Bill just banned "pay for play," but there's no mention of play for food! or condiments at least...speaking of which whole body condom-ents are in order for you guyz up there...try the ones that look like the Woody Allen movie...
...little Bro is on the case tho'...better him than me: macques are nasty creatures...
User: Coco Konocti | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: Still good seats at www.tickets.com for Konocti Harbor - do not bother with phone - it is jammed where online lets you right in.
User: jjeff | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: Hey, Crack whore, I love the letter. I hope you really did something with it not just write it for catharsis.
Incidentally the working summer you mentioned was our first attempt at a time toroid and it was only 10 days. You weren't supposed to remember.
The Vienna Boys Choir thing was real, unfortunately.
Billy Joel and Elton John just cancelled Toronto because of SARS.
I'm headed for Arizona for 2 weeks starting friday. Any suggestions as to what to see/avoid? A party of 6 including my 87yr old dad. I'm NOT doing Tombstone,but definitely Grand Canyon and Painted Desert
User: Paige | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: StAl...
Still trying to keep an open mind...Just remember (as I know you do), that it is more than just Bush. In fact, it may be far deeper than we (or Bush for that matter) can imagine. Interesting years ahead.
-Paige
User: Hutch | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: DACW - Any more attempts at emailing me?
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: recall
Royal
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: recall
Royad
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: Catfight on the Blue! Catfight on the Blue!
t: Pre-programming is nothing new, though it is frightening to see the plug and play programming machine like a McDonald's distribution paradigm...can I sue if I spill hot coffee in the car when another awful song corraled by Clear Channel blasts from my car radio!??
I recal when I was small, to be specific, as a teen around the Cretacious Boyal Scam and Aja Period, I used to work on farms in the summer for $$: cucumbers, other veggies, 'baccy (tobacco), warehouse stuff. Anyway, one summer my brother and I were both working on the same farm and I had the radio/alarm clock set to 5:42 am every morning. The local FM rock/pop station that was reliable in that it was ON the air and had a strong enough signal to reach our bedroom (the AOR station from Raleigh was in and out) played largely pre-programmed tapes...well, they got lazy for a couple of weeks and slipped in the same tape from 3-6 am...so EVERY f**ing day for weeks, I'd hear *click* and then that unmistakable Lou Rawls baritone: "Yooooouuuu'll never fiiiiinnnnnd"...5 note/chord piano Latin phrase...then "another love like miiiine." A real life Groundhog Day with Bill Murray - we even had the same type of clock radio!!! Every morning, not only did the same Lou Rawls song would some on, but at EXACTLY the SAME part of Your Gonna Miss My Lovin' every single time!!!! Truly bizarre and frightening...it's amazing how quickly my hand slap reflex became on the off/snooze button!! To this day, while I greatly repect Lou Rawl's pipes, I must reflexively tune in another station immediately when I hear that baritone...
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: Stevie: Yes, but who would have access? Not so much receiving, but broadcasting...can we send up a satellite just to jam all Clear Channel broadcasts?
Just parked the cropduster after droping leaflets over the Houston Clear Channel Affiliates:
"Dear Clear Channel Lackey...errrr Visonary...errrr Craig:
IÆm contacting you and your posse at KXXX to have a request played, and provide you all with the opportunity of a lifetime. Speaking of which, itÆs been half a lifetime, mine to be specific, since I called in a request into a radio station. Yet I attempted to do so to MIX 104.7 here in XXXXXX. Much to my chagrin contacting KXXX here resulted in only a pre-programmed ôthank youö from Clear Channel and a menu of folks not at work today û no request line there or on the internet.
IÆm not a man easily stopped, however. I dove into the belly of the corporate Clear Channel beast, and after wading through executive statement after statement, I found the new song AAA playlist û my request was not on the list as of todayàso I browsed the central Texas area for stations for AAA persuasion under Clear Channel and found the Buzz. Yes, IÆve listen to 94.5 in my auto when I tire of Miles Davis, Joe Henderson, Neil Finn, and George Harrison on my CD changerà
This is your chance to be an artist, a pioneer. This week, there were two radio singles released by the ôgroupö Steely Dan, well actually Reprise Records under AOL Time Warner Without Ted Turner Whatever. Both songs a crisp and full of hooks. The Last Mall is an altered blues with a twist û I think this is on that WAVE format, but could be AAA. The second is called Blues Beach and there is no other way to describe it as pure AUDIO CRACKàafter a couple of listens, you and your listeners (including me) will be HOOKED. YouÆll be deluged with calls, your stock or bond portfolio will skyrocket, and your love life will improve, if thatÆs possible or if you even have one!
Blues Beach is snappy, full of killer, MONSTER HOOKS û kind of Sly and the Family Stone meet Prince. It truly is THE sound of the summer û just a darn fine recording! A happy sound with clever, but deliciously twisted lyricsû a Hill Street Blues theme kinda approach. Whether or not that really parallels AAA today, who knowsàbut IS an adult alternative, and quite a departure from the Grammy winning Two Against Nature, which I love, but thatÆs mostly a funk meets cool jazz album. Blues Beach is the kind of music America needs to hear nowàjust how much Blink 182 and Matchbox 20 do we really need?
Given that Clear Channel owns 1200 stations, you all have not have the opportunity in a major market to be a leader of the pack and cruise America to Blues Beach! Carpe diem!
Two words: HEAVY ROTATION!!!!! IÆll be listening.
Best Regards,
SuperDanAudioCrackWhore"
User: Molly the Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: I've been listining to Wayne Shorter's " Algeria" . My God the man gives me chills.... Talk about Audio crack!
Fife, Beth, Danorak, BB, Duncan Jaz, Wild Bill and Bluz, I hope you're all doing well. I've missed talking to you all. *mmmmmwwwwaaaaahhhhh*
User: Mr. Stewart | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: StAl: Gorge show? E-mail me.
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message:
Hutch - I agree absolutely about that low guitar note (sliding down) at the end of the Last Mall intro - very nice touch!
The little slidey figure high up in the rhythm guitar that comes just afterwards is nice too.
Also agree about the solo - good, but could have been stronger. The extra keyboard and horn touches help out though.
Howard
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 27
Message: Tones -- thanks a million. FYI the artwork/design on AFFoPF was done by Dave Chapple, a graphic designer who has worked with Henry Rollins and currently is the touring bass player with Arthur Lee & Love (in other words, he's the bass player in Baby Lemonade). He also did "San Tropez" on the record and plays bass on Harvette's version of "Bike." Keneally got his copies tonight and was very complimentary of the artwork -- and then he tore my head off with his guitar.
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: nice tape...
if i were "local" radio, i believe the word i would see on the wall would be "satellite". i would read it, and fear it...
User: bird rock at low tide | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Jaz..thank's again for the tape
played friday
Leroy Jones..Back To My Roots.."parlor for the crawlers"(new)
Jimmy Witherspoon.."cc rider"
Houston Person.."blue velvet"
Johnny Adams..Walking On A Tightrope.."look the whole world over"
Van Morrison..w/georgie fame.."I will be there"
Kenny Garrett.."a hole in one"
The Crusaders.."creepin"
Joe Beck Trio.."blues for joe farrell(new)
Rickie Lee Jones..PoP PoP.."up from the skies"
Joe Chambers..Mirrors.."to-way-pock-e
George Kahn..Midinight Brew.."swiss cheese"(new)
Dave Pike..Pikes Peak.."why not"
Bobby Darin.."all nite long"
Wayne Shorter..Speak No Evil.."fee-fi-fo-fum"
Bobby "Blue" Bland.."I pity the fool"
B.B. King.."the blues come over me"
Stanley Clarke & Friends..Live At The Greek.."good bye pork pie hat"
Herbie Hancock..Man Child.."hang up your hang ups"
Joni..Mingus
David "Fathead" Newman.."these foolish things"
Ella Fitzgerald.."until the real thing comes along"
The Deacons w/Kenny Schopmeyer..Straight Up.."what have I done"
Coltrane.."blue train"
Ahmad Jamal..In Search Of.."island fever"(new)
King Curtis.."soul meeting"
Terry Gibbs..w/special guest Joey De Francesco.."red top"(new)
Cedar Walton..Spectrum.."higgins holler"
Lowell Fulson.."blue shadows"
Lou Rawls.."room with a view"
Miles.."well you needint"
She's a tailor made woman,
she ain't no hand me down.
Blind Lemon Jefferson
"bad luck blues"
bluz
User: DACW - that's not my Bag, Dad | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: I still like his Dad and Dennis Miller
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: In case we've forgotten.....
Michael Powell head of the FCC happens to be the son of Colin Powell.
So, at least we know what the qualifications of the job were:
1.Believe that consolidation is good.
2.Believe that sex and violence (Reality TV or the return of Hunter) makes for good tv.
3.Always have Daddy on your side.
I appreciate the arguments that was brought out from my rant, er post.
I was gonna say rant, period, but since Dennis Miller is politically not in sync, I'll just say it was a post.
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Hutch: tried to get to you through the non-US Mail, but got a file size exceeded message. Heads up and I'll try again in 5 hours...
t: You and I are on the same page re: post 1125. It's Elvis Costello's Radio Radio all over again. This evening I've been into the belly of the Clear Channel Beast. It's odd and ironic that TV and radio are going in the opposite direction: Once upon a time ABC, NBC, and CBS ruled television, before an explosion of cable and satellite free-market options gave us 120 different ways to wade in mediocrity. There are a few exceptions: Fawlty Towers, CSI (just for the digital video), SportsNight, Frank's Place (set in N'awlins), Rockford, WKRP in Cincinnati, the character Hawk in Spenser for Hire, the first 3 years of MASH, the sci-fi writing during the first 3.5 years of Star Trek: TNG...However, thanks to Al Gore's invention of the 1996 Telecommunications Act, a little taco company from San Antonio now controls 1200 radio statioins outdistancing Infinity Broadcasting...squshing what little there was left in independent radio and stuffing Blink182 down our throats...
ItÆs been half a lifetime, mine to be specific, since I called in a request to a radio station. Yet I attempted to do such a futile thing to a Mix station here in town (AAA, AC format and some oldies). Much to my chagrin contacting the station by phone here resulted in only a pre-programmed ôthank youö from Clear Channel!!! and a menu of folks not at work today û no request line there. or on the internet. Turns out Clear Channel has metastasized here to a country and "classic rock" station as well
IÆm not a man easily stopped, however. I went into the belly of the corporate Clear Channel beast and after wading on the 'net through executive statement after statement, I found/hacked into the new song AAA playlist û for Clear Channel. Unfortunately Blues Beach was not to be found. now this is not a shock considering the state of AOL Time Warner Ted Turner Whatever...
Thus I have had no alternative but to lead Special Ops into the Clear Channel AAA stronghold of Houston. this mission is far to dangerous for imbedded reporters, but i will keep all posted on the project. I won't rest until I and my Marine mates pull down the statue of Michael Powell with a rope!!
and YES, the internet radio brouhaha is about control by broadcast Radio corporation and Record company control, not artist or listener rights, twisting the intentions of Copyright Law.
"...You had better do as you are told. You better listen to the radio..."
EC pulling the plug on a pre-programmed song on SNL and lauching into Radio Radio was the pinnacle of SNL spontanaity in the late 70s - it was all downhill from there...
User: H. | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: really GOT the spirit...
User: Hutch | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Found this while searching for an mp3 of BB. Looks like a lot of these folks were hearing the song Aja for the first time. Their reactions are interesting... quite favorable for the most part:
http://www.radioparadise.com/index.php?song_id=31173
I liked The Last Mall from the first listen. Infectious little bass riff, typical WB guitar work but still tasty with some nice little touches. I like that low note at the end of the guitar intro. The main guitar solo could have been stronger but the way the bridge comes back in after the solo makes up for it. And yes that "Roll yer khat right up the aisle" is DF like I've never quite heard him before. Sounds like he's really the spirit in him alright.
Clas - My writing partner and I haven't been doing much writing lately. His band has had a shakeup in their lineup if you catch my drift. They are beginning to get back to status quo so he and I will start a side project soon. A song for the GB comp. It will take a little time. Thanks for the invitation!
Where's Altamira?
Where's Midnite?
Hutch
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: W1P - digging Fair Forgery! Great versions of these tunes! And great package too.
*The previous was an unsolicited opinion by tones. No money or favors were exchanged*
Seriously people, this is great stuff...
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Mike Keneally tonight! YES
User: Went to grab lunch... | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: ...and what do ya know: our local public broadcast station is running a special all about Clear Channel. One speaker brought up another angle on all this:
"Head of the FCC Michael Powell said in a statement, 'Corporate mergers are good because they make business more efficient.' That's *not* what the FCC is about!"
I wonder how much Clear Channel stock Michael Powell has?
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Uh no, not "indecent" radio stations, "independant" radio stations...
User: Conspiracies Are Us | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: And Doc... a big ol' Texas sized YES! about internet radio and eviro-cars! I think the internet radio thing was a way to eliminate/regulate indendent radio stations. If you'll notice the licensing fees per song are set so high that only corporate sized stations can afford to pay. The intitial proprosal even went to the point of making the fees *retroactive* by a couple of years, meaning many stations ended up owing *millions* of dollars when the law went into effect. Of course, the RIAA said it was doing it "for the artists" (even convinced some of them, though oddly only ones who have no trouble getting airplay anyway), though they never cared to inforce artist royalties before. Meaning before Clear Channel controled most of what you hear on the radio.
So see... and I'm brainstorming this... If you control internet radio, which was a way of hearing internationaly diverse music and news, and have the majority of news and music coming from central locations (and I have to throw satellite radio in there too, because there you have only two corporations - one of them "siriusly" flailing - providing programming. No matter how "diverse" they seem, it's only two points of view), you can control not only access to information, but control peoples impression of what "music" is. Unless you really look you could have no idea different kinds of music even exist. At the very least, you can charge big money for musical diversity, something that should be free anyway.
This was all going to be part of my music business rant from a few months ago but I couldn't get it all organised in my head for translation to my fingers...
t
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Doc - I may be wrong (I'm sure you'll let me know... heh heh...), but wasn't the Microsoft case about them misusing their monopoly by *forcing* PC manufacturers to accept the Windoze/Exploder bundle, then lying about it by saying windoze wouldn't work without exploder? And weren't they found guilty? Hardly a waste of taxpayers money... even though through plea bargains and endless appeals they'll still get off scott free...
All they had to do was wait out the Clinton adminstration and let the new corporation-pampering one let them off the hook. I think one of the appeals even went through a judge who had tech stock.
That sound right? Could be I'm getting all my conspriracy theories confused... lol...
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Jimbo: The travel industry is hurting because of 9/11 and now SARS
StAl: I'm not a fan of Bill Gates' despite he and his wife's charity work, but suing Microsoft was not only a waste of taxpayer $, but directly contributed to bursting of the technology bubble along with Greenspan's tight wad unilateral Fed rate hikes in the late 90s. How can it be a monopoly when any bozo can download Netscape Navigator whil on a PC or Mac using Internet Explorer??! Besides citizens could buy a Mac or Linux system!!!!! I did. Walt did. You can to - no one has a gun to your head!
Don't talk it, walk it...or you'll lose that beat...
Everyone, buy a Mac (hey, you can support Al Gore that way!) and a fuel cell car (saw one at NASA) now available in Cali and nationwide soon...the first fuel cell methanol stationis will be opening. Forget nookyular, oil, coal for power plants - large fuel cells with cartridges...I'll never forget the collective yawn of the moronic Congress when $10 Billion was announced at the State of the Union for research into fuel cells. The Kyoto treaty calls for a reduction of CO2 emissions by only 2% (although the Northeast sure could have used "global warming" this winter!!!) instead of the current increase. Fuel cells will reduce CO2 production by 70% and eventually 90%...connect the dots...Shieks on Blues Beach...
Clear Channel does suck, but they still don't own all the AAA stations...The REAL enemy is the RIAA squashing internet radio, the real avenue for independent and music for adults!!!! I've been harrassing my Senators and Representative...join us!!
My Toyota gets 30 mpg combined and 35 on the highway to Austin Beat that...best I can do in Texas right now...
User: tones | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Jimbo - I like your idea, but there's a problem. See, most Clear Channel stations aren't programmed locally. The "dj" you hear announcing the songs probably isn't even in your home state, because what they do is program from a central location in (why does it always have to be) Texas, where CC Inc. is stationed. The jocks in Tejas back announce the songs, and local info like weather and traffic is pasted into the generic broadcast. If you do happen to catch a live jock at the station, they're just there to push the buttons at the right time, or maybe announce local news to give the appearance of a local broadcast. That's why Clear Channel radio is generic across the country.
Best thing to do is to find another non-CC radio station in your area and tell your friends about it. There are other corporate owned stations, like KFOG, who still give their jocks a choice, once an hour or so... lol... I prefer college radio or public radio, which maybe too esoteric at time for some people, but I know the dj's are playing stuff from their hearts and not a formatted playlist. But I do agree that people should find out if which stations in their area are CC owned and boycott them, because the only way we're going to get radio back is to hit them where they live - their advertising revenue.
I was going to provide a link to a list of Clear Channel stations but can't seem to find one... so instead I'll remind everone what a great man once said to warn us:
"...the radio is in the hands of such a lot of fools
Tryin' to anaesthetise the way that you feel."
radio free peace
t
User: I'm Fryin | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: St.Al- I always thought the lawn area for these shed gigs were for people that really couldn't give a shit about the band.
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Problem is we can't rely on government to fix stuff. After all, the same government that allowed Microsoft to skate also allowed Clear Channel to happen. I'm talking government as a whole -- not just the executive branch.
Nope, the only way to hurt a corporation is to boycott their stuff. Problem is I'm not about to do that in the case of live music. If Steely Dan were to play White River Amphitheater (a Clear Channel shed), I'd still go. About the only thing we can do is not be complacent -- like the other 40% of the population who doesn't vote during a presidential election.
Mel: Perhaps all you can do is remember how cool it was to see them up close and enjoy yourself just the same. That's what I plan on doing at the Gorge. In the case of the Gorge the lawn really is the best way to go.
Outta here for the weekend. Have fun!
StAl
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: StAl- Remember several years back when various software companies took Microsoft to Federal Court for monopolizing the technology business. Judge Jackson (I beleive that was his name.) Ruled in favor of the plaintiffs only to have that verdict overturned on appeal. Judge Jackson
should be on the list of heroes.
With the travel industry in danger thanks to G.W.B Jr and his buddies, the music industry is already facing the same in terms of monopoly. I think that these radio stations need to take some risks and play the songs not recommended by the satanists of Clear Channel. If there's an outcry from anyone inside the Clear Channel bubble, everyone who works for a Clear Channel-owned station should vote to walkoff their jobs and really fuck up the stations. Of course that's not going to happen.
To come up with one idea is one thing, to act on it shouldn't be hard, but for whatever reason, people think it is.
Here's a really cool idea. Call up a station owned by CC and ask them to play a song that usually not heard on radio. Ex: Don't Know Why by Norah Jones, Maureen by Sade, Night by Night by Steely Dan, or even Blues Beach.
If they say we can't, ask why. If the answer is not satisfiying, ask them if they're owned by CC. If they hesitate, it means yes. Then, the
next day, call again and do the same. If the results are the same, tell them that they just lost a listener and that you'll encourage friends never to listen to that station again.
Wow! Think that'll scare em'?
User: Mel | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Dagnammit.
I woke up at 6 a.m. in NYC today, so jazzed about getting PNC tickets at the earliest possible moment, and gazed lovingly at my computer for what I thought was exactly three hours. Despite the rain, the morning was glorious. Then, at some godforsaken moment before 9, I drifted away, woke up at 9:04, and all was lost. Can I really spend $200 on tickets way up and over in 301, when three minutes earlier, I could have paid the same price and possibly caught a drop of Donald's sweat?
So, I am paralyzed and indecisive. I can still get some far away tickets for $200, or save a little money and go even farther away, or save a lot of money and sit on the lawn. Or, I can just wait for Jones Beach to go on sale and start this agony anew. I think that's what I'll do.
How hard is that going to be? I fear it will sell even faster, and the "general public" (god, I love to feel like I'm PART of something bigger than myself), will be even more royally screwed.
By the way, I'm Mel, crazed fan for years. You can briefly see a lock of my hair, if you freeze your VH1 Storytellers tape just so. Pleased to make your acquaintances.
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Mu, yeah babe.....I got just what you need for your " condition". LMAO
mmmmmwwwwwwaaaaaahhhhhh!
My idea of perfect day.....Driving my MG really fast and listening to TLM and BB,about a hundred times. Hiking all day and then more driving and Steely.LIFE IS GOOD!
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Vienna Boys Choir doing Burning Down The House?
You're kidding, right?
LadyB: Ticketmaster sucks. Clear Channel sucks. Corporate record labels suck. Corporate rock sucks.
This year I'm buying lawn seats for the Gorge show myself. Frankly its become every bit as much of a social occasion as seeing the band play live. It's all good. You just have to ignore the corporations...
Paige: Remember when you stated that Reagan and his policies pushed you to the left so firmly you've never come back. W has done the same to me. It only takes one asshole to screw up the system, no?
User: jjeff...........Under the heading, "Strange" | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Just heard Vienna Boys Choir doing(wait for it) Burnin' Down The House. Not an enjoyable experience.
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Hmmph. Well, as of 9:05 I have tickets, but we are in section 303 (which is the second section up).
Don't get me wrong, they are great seats, but I'm becoming terribly jaded about the Ticketmaster system. They managed to fill *that* many seats in four minutes?
Hell, we're in.
*Now* I can go back to bed.
LadyB
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: Morning (rubs sleepy eyes)--
Just queing up for the PNC onsale. Four minutes, then hopefully I can score some nice tickets and go back to sleep.
*yawn*
Truly, I am excited. As excited as I can be this hour of the morning.
Mmmph.
Lady B
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 26
Message: it's amazing how your musical influences permeate even a seemingly unrelated performance. tonite we opened with a bob marley tune and when we finished, a dude looking like a young kenny rogers on acid with an overly animated girlfriend said, and i QUOTE:
"you boys sound like you're gonna do some steely dan"
we said, "oh hell yes we will and thanks for askin', kenny"...
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: What a way to go...but there's a method to the madness:
If The Last Mall is the lead-in to the apocalypse - the blood orange sky ...i.e., an H-bomb, Then Blues Beach may be the fallout:
BLUES BEACH
I was scrapinÆ bottom
GropinÆ in the dark
It takes a crusty punk
To really beat the mean streets
Of Madison Park
So I drifted left
And out of town
And I clicked my heels
And I doubled down
To Blues Beach
IÆm frying
Sizzling in the merciful rays
And itÆs the long sad Sunday
Of the early resigned
I went to Central Station
To catch that early bus
They were gassed
And runninÆ every which way
But unhappily not for us
Here come Trina
Child Bride
I say ôHey Girly Girl,
Can I cop a ride?ö
To Blues Beach
ItÆs raininÆ
IÆm chillinÆ at the Manatee Bar
Well itÆs a Stone Soul Picnic
For the early resigned
We could rent a parametric glider
A hypothetical grin
And we could sail
To the bended end
Grab big gobs of blankets
{Warming up the dark}
Angel of my heart
Things may get a whole lot worse
Before SundayÆs sadder part
Give your roommate Yvonne a ring
If she still wants in
I gotta pull some strings
At Blues Beach
IÆm dyinÆ
BreezinÆ in the merciful rays
And itÆs a long sad Sunday
Of the early resigned
outtro
TalkinÆ bout the blues
Blues Beach
'bout the blues, blues
Blues Beach
another dimension
Blues Beach
Chillin'
No slack in the tension
Blues Beach
Chillin' at the Manatee bar
Everyone's tall and tanned
Scrapin' in the park
Gropin' in the dark
Blues Beach
Chillin'
Yes I want to be on the sand
Blues Beach
Chillin' at the Manatee bar
Way sweeter and merrier
Waiting for the Bus
Baby not for us
Blues Beach
Chillin'
The rain
Oh, Blues Beach
ChillinÆ at the Manatee Bar
The corn grows tall
Not a lot of days
ChillinÆ in the rays
Blues Beach
ChillinÆ
HavinÆ ourselves a ball
Blues Beach
ChillinÆ at the Manatee Barà
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Ed B-
For certain...would love to see you "Jones-n"...such wonderful memories of the Bar Bat extravaganza...
I am primed and ready, Ticketmaster site already up for tomorrow am.
A friday night hanging out at 'home'...nice evening.
LadyB
User: suedave | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Hi Yellow Book folks! Have had a few minutes to catch up while the traffic out there crawls all the way from here to home. Did ya know I'm having a Danfest in Seattle the night before the Gorge show? You're all invited!
Don't know where you are all hearing Blues Beach from but if you can send it to me I'd greatly appreciate it.
Have been listening to TLM for four days now? Could that be right? Day 1 I just tasted it now and then. Didn't want to wear it out. Day 2 I got a little out of control yeehaa. Day 3 and beyond I find myself singing it to myself now and again. It *is* so amusing, and how can we not all love the RRRrrroll your kaht back up the aisle....
I forget who's theory the song ends suddenly because it's all gone, that'll be good to find out on June 10th.
See ya,
Susan
User: I feel an intervention coming on | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Snap out of it!!! You have a wife and kids!!! Think of the children!!!
Oh Mu, you once had a mind. I knew you couldn't handle it, but you insisted you could. Now look where you are, drooling in front of your stereo with the repeat button worn flat on the remote. What a waste.
User: Hey, you know...? That almost works... | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: "Americans of Japanese ancestry... when all my dime dancing is through..."
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: t: uhhhh...W's practicing love the Senator...errr...sinner, not the sin...
Mol: hep me hep me. I've been hynpotized by Blues Beach and there's now "dog on man"...hep me...
Jimbo - sounds like two female back-up vocalists - one in each channel on Blues Beach - check out the call and repeat stuff in the outtro...brilliant
Caroline left channel, Cynthia in the right channel??
I'm guessing Herington in the right channel and either Walter or McCracken in the left channel..maybe Walter in the middle? about 11 o'clock???
"they were gassed and runnin' every which way..."
"girly girl can I cop a ride..."
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Hey back at ya, jjeff. :-)
Yesterday I found two baby doves in the fern that hangs from the front of my house. Mama's been sitting for weeks on those eggs. True pain to water the plant, but the kids are cute.
I sometimes spend too much time checking out John Granatino's Reading Room. Love anything having to do with The Dan. :-)
Blues Beach tonight. Wahoo!
User: ... And they just noticed he's running the country. | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Angel: Hey, baby,hey, baby,hey baby,hey. You always answer the door when someone comes knocking. That's sooo nice. You made Scotty and Aja2 feel real welcome. Thanks from me. I did wonder about the explanation re: the term Aja, though. I thought it was a given, standing for Americans of Japanese Ancestry. Found it in the dictionary when I first heard the song.
See ya, jjeff.
User: Right now, somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot: | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: White House expresses support for Santorum
Senator faced criticism for comments on gays
By Sean Loughlin
CNN Washington Bureau
Friday, April 25, 2003 Posted: 2:35 PM EDT (1835 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) --
The White House expressed its support Friday for Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, who has been under fire by gay rights advocates and Democrats for critical comments he made about homosexuality.
"The president has confidence in Senator Santorum, both as a senator and as a member of the Senate leadership," White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer told reporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/04/25/bush.santorum/
User: Mister Seaside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Lady B: you will need to assist with my Forgery purchase.......MS
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: when will it be ok to listen to the outkast ''BOB'' again ?
User: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/afairforgery | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Hey that's fine YGK -- just don't call me Pink Dan
User: edward beatty | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Lady B.
Nice to see you,Hope to see you at Jones Beach?
Ed B.
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: the juxtaposition begs to ax
what about "Steely Floyd"?
ygk
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Lady B -- I do recall that night vividly -- (and I infected Pete's video with my bald spot as proof) Sweet Lou, indeed. I still wish I had sprung for flying in my buddy the Queen tribute Brian "Maybe" to come that night to sit in and recreate the SD/HOF butchery -- THAT would have been classic. Glad to see you back in the swing of things!
YGK -- the check's in the mail, your turn!
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: WiP--
I love the "find the Damned" in that crowd picture. I did pretty well, considering I have only seen them once.
But oh, what a night.
*sigh*
LadyB
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Hey Pink one. I've been streaming KFOG on and off since yesterday and they are VERY Dan friendly. Heard Josie a few minutes ago, Reelin, yesterday and of course, Blues Beach. Check out the link above. Seems to be a Best of the Old/New station. Laid back Northern Calif. Nicer then what we have here....
E-mail me, if you need anything more. (wink wink, nudge nudge) ;-)
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: I cant believe I have to listen to the freaking Wave just to hear the new tracks. Anyone seen the new photo of Lovebob up at http://www.thesteelydamned.com ? It's funny
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Everyone fall into a coma after the latest downloads?
Jimbo, nice to see you, too. Metaphorically speaking.
*grin*
Lady B
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: We'll I just got done listening to "Blues Beach" a few minutes ago.
IT KICKS ASS!
The track is so dang funky, I might want to chill out at the Manatee Bar.
Fagen's vocals sound better than ever, even clearer. Hard to believe this
song and the rest of EMG would be recorded in analog.
I wonder who the female background vocalist was? I hope it was either Carolyn, Cynthia or Victoria.
I'm sure the commercial radio progammers will be perlexed enough after hearing to put on shlock rather than put 'Blues Beach" on the playlist.
Great song.
User: ~ | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: love that b&W tour photo on the dan site
http://www.steelydan.com/touring.html
wing tips and new balance
sounds like a top ten
things you can do in nb you can't do in wt
maybe later
wt
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Jimbo, thanks for the tip about WYEP. I just heard Blues Beach for the first time. Lyrics mostly mixed down, this one's a fun sounding summer song. Of course, lots of SD songs are fun-*sounding* -- that's why they play them in the supermarket.
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Howard- HA HA HA! Have you ever thought about giving that idea to the folks at Saturday Night Live? Of course, then again, since the show's been sucking up to the establishment, they'd say no. But that's a cool statement. I also wonder if Fox News Channel is funded by the government.
Just a thought.
WYEP is playing the new track from our boys in a half hour as I write.
I CAN'T FREAKIN' WAIT. Soon as I hear it, I'll come back with my opinion.
P.S. Tried to download the track according to the web address from yesterday. Couldn't do it. Not compatible with browser.
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Where are the Gees? Lisa and Daddy, I mean.
They are Jerseyans. Jerseyites. Jersey-dwellers. And not too far from PNC, if I remember correctly.
Are you Gees going to the show?
LadyB
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Not quite, but then again, it is Friday, and the weekend is always a good excuse to relax a bit. Or something.
This might be sacrilege (sp?), but I am listening to Counting Crows (This Desert Life; specifically, Hanging Around) and wishing it was five o'clock already. Oof.
My contract signing that was supposed to take place first Monday, then yesterday, finally showed. Ick. I need a shower. I detest slimy people.
What's everybody doing for the weekend, aside from trying to score tickets for shows, or trying to download new Dan?
I'm going to the zoo Sunday, weather permitting. There's a song there, dontcha think? Something about sad tigers and children with sticky fingers. Donald could write it. Walter would sing it.
Maybe these paint fumes are stronger than I thought.
LadyB
User: Mister Seaside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Well, Lady B, did you take care of that 'nervous condition' you were experiencing yesterday? Perhaps we should put our shores together, and go see some Dan this year, eh?
MS
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: I'm having 2001 deja vu all over again. New album (can I still call it that, even though it is cd and not vinyl? Guess I'm worried I'm dating myself.), new tour, lots of opportunities for DANFESTS and socializing. Aah, I'm such a shrinking violet.
It is so, SO wonderful to be back here, and I am going to miss it even more when the MAN comes back from vacation and I have to actually accomplish stuff on someone else's schedule. I'll go back into lurk mode then. Guess I will just have to make sure I am home for the Sunday chats.
I *wish* I were going to Jazzfest this year. Next year 'fer sure'--had to choose between taking a trip for me and taking a trip that my daughter would also enjoy...so we're going to Disney World next month. But I am definitely going to be traveling on my bday, adults only, so by God, the Dan better be playing somewhere relatively accessible on September 20.
Maybe it's just spring fever. Nah. It's Dan.
So, WHO'S going to party with me at Jones Beach (NY) in August?
LadyB
ps. Cyn....I'd love a piano, but where would I put it?
pps. El Supremo...certainly, but I thought the statute had ran.
User: Molly , still known as Molly | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Ummm Mu, does the new name mean I can have my way with you if I'll play Steely while we're doing the deed? ;) While I have no crack, I happen to have a very nice pipe you can have... lmao It's good seeing your posts again bud! I hope all is well with you.
I've never met a guitar player without a girlfriend.Of course I haven't met very many who will admit to having a girlfriend to another woman they're attracted to lol lol
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: New Fox Reality Show To Determine Ruler Of Iraq
LOS ANGELES ù Fox executives Monday unveiled their latest reality-TV venture, Appointed By America, a new series in which contestants vie for the top spot in Iraq's post-war government.
"Get ready, America, because you're about to choose the manùor womanùwho will lead Iraq into an exciting democratic future," said Fox reality-programming chief Mike Darnell, introducing the show at a press conference. "Will it be Ahmed Chalabi, leader of the exiled Iraqi National Congress? Or General Tommy Franks, commander of the allied forces? Or maybe Roshumba Williams, the Macon, GA, waitress with big dreams and an even bigger voice? Tune in Tuesdays at 9 to see."
Full article at Homepage link above.
User: Cyn...Oh hell Bells....looky what I found in the attic | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: ..Clas...its "real" miles. Meet us at Cheddar Gorge. We'll stand and yell up the gorge and hear our echos. Then we'll go to Wookey Hole...just for the cheese...but they only serve Cheddar.
tones..you found the edge of Texas? Ok...listen up..if you make it by the 17th..you'll be in time for the big house/yard sale-party...free food and beer for the helpers. I'll throw in sink for free..if you man the "tools" table.
Happy Birthday..Dave..wish you many more!
Ohhhh...Lppppppppp...Found my 2 antique coffee bean grinders..gimme 200.00 (pesos) and they're yours.
I bequeath my.."Investing without a Silver Spoon" book to Aus.
LadyBay...Lovely to see you again...wanna buy a piano?
Ohhh Gawd...today is "go into the shed from hell day"..if you all don't hear from me in two days...Call the Mounties.
btw...I'm taking my drink with me...incase I need to have another drink.HA!
" I dreamed myself a thousand times around the world...but I can't get out of this place"...DMB...(Busted Stuff)
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message:
Q: How many drummers does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: One to hold the bulb and another 5 to show you how Steve Gadd would have done it.
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 3 | Day: 25
Message: Dr John - it's OK, after all, in the past, you've been posting as Hitler and Mel Brooks, it can't get worse.
---
"Most of the time I don't have much fun. The rest of the time I don't have fun at all."
Woody Allen
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: aah Stevie ... we'll share a banyan moment drinking coffee or tea or something :-)
must clarify the image here, it's OUR angel prowling the archives ...
sometimes something gets stuck in your mind and you just have to go there to find the information dangling in the mind ...
anyone commenting on "get a life" as one talks about the time spent in these cyberquarters ... they don't have a clue what there's to be found here!!!!!
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: hey g
just missed ya again...
the byline referred my meager offering compared to the ample "TWELVE TRIBES" which i thought i was following...
stevie's homework has not been completed to that degree...
no extra credit...
User: merely stevie, squaw, & coupla papooses | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: hbd fdave !
incidentally, my bd just happens to be 6/12. i know one thing i'll be getting a little early...
musician jokes, however accurate or not always bring on the ear to ear. but at this point, many are ruined for me because of this reed teacher that taught with me awhile back. he was a continuous spewage of every musician/singer joke ever devised in any language, even the history and development of the genre, style & theory, previously unreleased, uncensored. a walking book, NO ! a walking reed-sucking serial, this guy was...
sh, one hundred percent agreement on "natural wonder". one of stevie's FAVORITEs of stevie's. ESSENTIAL ! powdered sugar donuts with dr. pepper !
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: aloha T, yes, got it safe and sound :-)
Wormy, Lady Bayside ... love this reunion days kinda feeling, we now need RoyScam to sing his song in this pregnant EMG version ... wait, i can hear him!
Hutch, i'm sending your addy to Sweden ...
and everyone else in here, love to read you :-)
love this place.
Should anyone wake up in the dead of night and feel this urge to check downstairs .. it's just an angel going through the archives ...
(sorry couldn't resist :-)
User: Twelve Tribes | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: "The Koran Says the Jews Would Return to their Land"
By Naomi Klass Mauer
JewishPress.com | April 25, 2003
Sheikh Abdul Palazzi, professor at the Research Institute for Anthropological Studies in Rome, was in the United States recently guest lecturing at Yale University on the possibility of bringing democracy to the Arab world. Having read numerous items about the sheikh, we were interested in meeting him. We caught up with him in New York as he was preparing to return to Italy.
Jewish Press: Tell our readers a little about yourself.
Palazzi: I was born in Rome 42 years ago to a Syrian mother and an Italian father. In addition to teaching at the Research Institute, I also teach a post-doctoral course on Middle East studies, IÆm the secretary general for the Italian Muslim Association and the Muslim chair of Islam-Israel Fellowship at the Root and Branch Association.
Do you think democracy can ever come to the Arab world?
The United States has a real opportunity now to accomplish just that. The best proof is Afghanistan. Things are really turning around there and they can do the same thing in Iraq. After the first Gulf war ended the Emir was left in place in Kuwait. Slavery is rampant in Kuwait, but no one tried to replace the Emir with a real democracy, or to abolish slavery. Everything was left in place. But this time if the U.S. proves that it wants the globalization of democracy, it has a real chance to accomplish it in Arab countries. When you show the Arab world that you side with Arab leaders who kill them or enslave them, they lose all hope of change. An example is Arafat. When you build him up and the people know who he is, they have no hope of a change. I am terribly concerned that President Bush speaks of a Palestinian state. I am afraid that once this war with Iraq is won, the pressure on Israel to create a Palestinian state will be enormous. You cannot get rid of one terrorist state and then create a new one. And the Palestinian Authority will be worse, because they are the true allies of Saddam Hussein.
You know the terrorists always claim to be followers of the Koran.
The Koran is being misread. The Koran forbids mistreatment of Jews and the state is obligated to protect them. At the time of the Ottoman Empire Jews held positions in the government. The Koran says before the end of days the Jews will return to their land. At the end of World War One, Sharif Al Hussein, the leader of the Hashemite family and governor of Mecca said, when he saw the Jews returning to Palestine, ôWe are seeing what was foretold in the Koran. When others settled there the land stayed barren, but now the land recognizes its original sons and it is producing.ö
ItÆs too bad the Palestinian Arabs donÆt know that.
They canÆt know it because these passages have been removed from their books. The PA selected only certain sources for their books. All of the proofs are deleted. But in other Islamic countries you do find all proofs in the Koran. You know, before 1967, Islamists referred to the Jews as Palestinians and the present-day Palestinians were called Jordanians. In Jerusalem, Imam Tabari, an important cleric, wrote an important book, ôLives of Prophets and Kingsö He described the life of King Solomon and the Temple he built. Anyone who denies this not only denies history, but denies Islamic sources.
The Palestinian Arabs even deny that the Holy Temple ever stood on the Temple Mount.
I was part of an international delegation that visited Israel in 2000. The Wakf took us to visit Al Aksa. Right outside of the Dome of the Rock is a small chapel on the eastern side. ôWhat is this place?ö I asked. ôIt is the place where Solomon stood to dedicate the Temple,ö was the reply. ôThen why do you deny this?ö I asked. With a smile I was told, ôFor political reasons.ö Mecca and Medina are the holiest places for Islam. Jerusalem is shared with Jews and Christians. Why, according to Islam, did Mohammed go to Jerusalem? To meet all the prophets from other religions who worshiped there. Islam is faith in monotheism, faith in prophets, faith in humanity. The basic distinction is monotheism versus idolatry. And this concept it shares with Judaism.
This is just one of many instances of historical revisionism on the part of the Arabs.
Another example of history being forgotten concerns the 1919 agreement between Chaim Weizmann and King Faisel of Jordan and Iraq. The agreement said that the Jordan River was the border between the Jewish state and the Arab state. The Arabs did not oppose this. Then the British came and created Saudi Arabia, taking land from Jordan. So they told them to take some of the land back from the Jews. When the kingdom of Saudi Arabia was created, control of Mecca and Medina was thereby given to Wahabbism, the most primitive tribe of all. Islamic scholars were horrified. Then oil was discovered and they became all powerful and forced everyone to believe in Wahabbism and killed whoever didnÆt. With the passing of years they became more sophisticated. Wahabbism in its original form is still practiced in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. It is their official religion.
Regarding the situation in Iraq, are you surprised by the way the French have acted?
Unfortunately, no. France has reached a new low level. They want the regime of Saddam to survive because they have a financial interest in him.
What about the Vatican?
Tariq Aziz was warmly welcomed by the Vatican and the Franciscan Monks prayed with him for Bush to repent. The pope approved the war against Milosevic û was he worse than Saddam Hussein?
We recall that the pope didnÆt condemn the Arab gunmen who took over the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem last year.
No voice of dissent is heard inside the Catholic church. In the past there were many instances where bishops and cardinals voiced an opposite point of view. But not this time. The Franciscan priest inside the Church of the Nativity acted as if the Arabs were just seeking refuge from the Israelis. He is now visiting Italy and has such deep-rooted anti-Semitism that he is speaking out against Israel wherever he goes.
The Arab bishops who depend on their dictators for appointments are increasing inside the Vatican. The best bishops and cardinals are retiring, leaving a terrible vacuum. Cardinal Martini was an honorable and brilliant scholar from Milano. He said you cannot accept opinions of dictators in religious matters.
After his retirement he was sent to Jerusalem. He was accepted by the Latin Patriarchate only because the pope sent him, but they donÆt like him and refer to him as ôthe Zionist.ö
What is your view of the now discredited Oslo peace process?
Oslo was a basic mistake, and unless Israel takes steps to end it and publicly renounce it, we cannot expect the rest of the world to do so. When we in Italy try to stop the European Union from transferring money to Arafat, they answer us that even Israel is doing so. And why shouldnÆt Bin Laden hope to be forgiven like Arafat was? Oslo abolished one of the basic principles of international law. If you are a terrorist, your crimes will not be forgiven. The world needs to be reminded of that.
* * * * *
The day after our interview a suicidal Arab terrorist blew up a bus in Haifa. A protest was immediately organized outside the PLO mission in New York by Rabbi Avi Weiss. Sheikh Palazzi, about to leave the country, joined Rabbi Weiss at that protest. It was the first time a Moslem sheikh took part in such a protest
User: DACW | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: hand
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: I was scraping bottom
groping in the dark
...then I clicked my heels
and hear the complete Blues Beach! it's a stone soul picnic!
YES! These are the sounds of summer...no wonder AOL Time Warner Without Ted Turner Whatever pushed the release data back to June
Fagen's vocals are extraordinarily strong again. Walter's bass is crisp and fun and funky...Clever use of the Wurlitzer (put Almost Gothic and the bridge to Cousin Dupree around the whistling together) and piano in right channel...guitar and perhaps Rhodes in the left...Carlock has a boppy New Frontier meets Talking Heads with a 70s twist kinda thing. The tune is spright, fun and more rich than expected. Quite a few tiny and sneaky twists and turns. Moreover, the bridge is absolutely GLORIOUS. In one fell swoop Fagen reaches out his had and then snags easily the pinnacle that the great Paddy MacAloon and Prefab Sprout tried to achieve for years. The lively sound and balance of the recording are superb - can't wait to hear it on CD or DVD-A!!! Today's high was 91¦ here, but it's the cool part of the summer...
back to the Manatee bar...
User: lp, and another thing | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: thanks steelydoubt...
nite-nite
User: Mike | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Lady Bayside: Hey! I think I still owe you some CD's I promised you at LeBarBat during HOF week!
E-mail me.
El Sup
User: Jah Rastapurdie | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: MAY 2000: AN INTERVIEW WITH BERNARD PURDIE
(traduzione di Manuela Bongioanni)
1 - Dear Mr Bernard Purdie, we know that you performed with Bob Marley and The Wailers in spring 1968 for producers Danny Sims, Johnny Nash and Arthur Jenkins. Did you ever meet Bob personally in Jamaica?
Yes, I played and recorded with Bob Marley in Jamaica. I had the previlege of having dinner with he and his wife in their home. It was a festive evening; Johnny Nash, Danny Sims and Arthur Jenkins and host of others were also there.
(Bernard, lei ha lavorato con i Wailers nella primavera del 1968 sotto la produzione di Sims, Nash e Jenkins. Ha incontrato Bob Marley in Giamaica?
Si, ho suonato e registrato con lui in Giamaica. Ho avuto il privilegio di cenare con lui e con sua moglie nella loro casa. Era un giorno di festa; Nash, Sims e Jenkins e molti altri erano li anche loro)
2 - What struck you most? Which is the memory that you cherish most?
I cherish the memory of the very relaxed mode of approaching the music and being allowed our time to get it right.
(Che cosa lÆha colpita di pi·? QualÆF il suo ricordo pi· caro?
Era il modo veramente rilassato con cui si avvicinavano alla musica e il tempo che ci concedevano affinchF la suonassimo nel modo migliore)
3 - Have you ever had any further contacts with Bob Marley or Danny Sims or Johnny Nash?
I have had a lot of contact with Johnny Nash and Danny Sims. I have worked with them over the years in the United States.
(Ha mai pi· avuto contatti con Bob Marley o con i produttori?
Ho avuto molti contatti con Nash e Sims in seguito. Ho lavorato con loro per anni negli Stati Uniti)
4 - You performed in studio in 1967-68 with The Wailers (JAD Records published those sessions in 1998 in "The Complete Wailers": the songs was "What goes around come around", "Nice time", "Rocksteady", "Soul rebel", "Chances are" and many others). How did you live that experience?
Because of what I had learned with Bob MarleyÆs musicians, I incorporated so much of the reggae feel in to my music over the years. For example, listen to Aretha FranklinÆs ôDaydreamerö and ôRocksteadyö, Cat StevenÆs ôForeignerö, Donny Hathaway and Roberta FlackÆs ôWhere is the love?ö, to name a few.
(Ha suonato con i Wailers nel 1967-1968 su alcuni brani che sono poi venuti alla luce nel 1998 nella raccolta The Complete Wailers. Come ha vissuto quella esperienza?
Grazie a quello che i musicisti di Bob Marley mi hanno insegnato, ho incorporato molto del reggae nella mia musica attraverso gli anni. Per esempio, tanto per citarne alcuni, sentite pezzi come ôDay dreamerö e ôRocksteadyö di Aretha Franklin o ôForeignerö di Cat Stevens o ôWher is loveö di Roberta Flack.
5 - Do you like reggae music?
Do I like reggae music? No, I love it! The musicians there taught me the real authentic reggae music, wich usually have percussion played by five different people.
(Le piace la musica reggae?
Se mi piace la musica reggae? No, io la amo! Quei musicisti mi hanno insegnato la vera, autentica musica reggae, avevano percussioni suonate abitualmente da 5 musicisti differenti).
6 - What do you remember about Bob and his music?
His music was always entertaining, with great rythm and exceptional melody. When thinking of Bob, here is a picture that always come to mind. We would leave the studio for a break, Bob would always climb up the hill, find a large rock, lie down upon it, light up, commune with nature and be at peace.
(Cosa ricorda di Bob e della sua musica?
La sua musica era sempre piacevole, con un grande ritmo e una melodia eccezionale. Quando penso a Bob cÆF unÆimmagine che mi torna spesso alla mente. Quando sospendevamo le sessioni in studio per le pause, Bob spesso si arrampicava per la collina, sceglieva la pietra pi· grande, ci si sdraiava sopra e, radioso, si calava in comunione con la natura, rilassato, in pace)
Thank you very much for your kind help. God bless you.
User: lp at home | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: hey all - anyone watch frontline tonight - angel? - anyway, it was on cyber wars and how we in america are vulnerable to damaging cyber attacks - it was an excellent report - but there was a funny moment (isn't there always) in describing a new term that has been born:
weapons of mass annoyance
lol, classic!!!!
i guess you had to be there, but it was pretty funny
with the hackers we have in steely cyber land alone and on a relatively minor scale, is it really a big surprise that the pentagon has literally thousands of hackers in there on a daily basis?
the infrastructure and local service hacking is scary to me - as well as air traffic control
okay, back to emg...
User: Dizbustologist | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Just a word of warning, and I don't want a lecture about the evils of file sharing......tried to download 'The last mall' twice recently and got a blank file on each occassion. Obviously 'the man' is out there intentionally trying to sabotage things.
Christ! I bought everything on vinyl, again on CD, I will buy EMG... WHAT IS THE F*****G problem?
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Welcome back Lady B. We missed you.
Downloading the Blues Beach track as I write.
Never met S.M. from CNN, but I have met Soledad O'Brien in 1999 in Hartford, Ct. She was very sweet and appreciated the Alive In America tape I sent her for her birthday. And she was HOT!
User: Aja....................countdown to vacation | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: I still haven't heard any of the new ones, haven't been near my own computer long enough to go to any of the websites posted here-the downside of a field job. I'm salivating over all these posts........it's like one loooooooooooooooooong tease!
I was hoping "EJ" was a reference to Eric Johnson, but no such luck. I guess it's still another 5 years to go for another CD.
ANYONE going to Jazzfest this year?
Aja
2 1/2 hours 'til vacation.........
User: Mister Seaside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: .............it is as long as you make it...........considering repeat plays, etc.
MS
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: I prefer extended play myself.
Lady B
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: 29 sec is pretty good if they're in...uhhhh.... multiples...
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Now, you're talking.
That's more like it.
How long is the album?
LadyB
User: Mister Seaside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Yeah, Baybabe, 29 seconds is definitely not satisfying.
Let's start with 29 minutes and work from there.
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: db
As long as it was a GOOD 29 seconds, then don't worry.
But that's not nearly enough as far as I am concerned.
Guess I am just demanding.
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: WHAT !!!
thats my record
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: 29 seconds is far from satisfying.
LB
User: ugh!!! | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: DACW
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: It is true. I keep playing that 29 sec Blues Beach over and over...fuck these government forms...
User: angel (had my fix for the day) | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: DCAW for short....:-)
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: PSA: In honor of Mike's astute line on another venue, I've decided to change my bogus personna, at least temporarily. Even Prince finally dumped the symbol thingy last year. Sure, I could have gone back to DrMu or Doctor Myu of Dokter Moo, but have opted instead for DanAudioCrackWhore.
...you can call me Ray, you can call me Jay...I hope this causes as much confusion as possible...thank you very much...
User: tones | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Cyn - you're right. You *don't* live in Texas... Took forever to get to the edge of that state, but I did find some great barbeque and a very friendly cat who... Um, could you put the sink out on the lawn to give me a target? And don't let Snakie talk you out of it before I get there...
G - hey there! Did you get my e?
Danoooooooo - Hey there mate! Can't say I listen to a lot of comps, but I do have a Traffic's best of that I'll never part with; has all of the early stuff like "Heaven is In Your Mind", "Shanghai Noodle Factory", "Feelin Alright"...
Good to see the steely yellow family back...
Oh yeah...
¦ - I know. What a dinosaur...
pieces
t
User: Molly | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y F L O R I D A V E !!!!!
I hope you that all your wishes come true.
User: sh | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message:
Hmmmmm....now where's that recipe for the cat shake.... ;-)
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message:
Q: What do you call a guitarist without a girlfriend?
A: Homeless.
TeeHee!
User: Mike | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Mu: Drop me an E-mail ...
User: LadyBayside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Mu, thank you, thank you!
For a couple of days now, I have been surfing the radio stations for new tunes from our boys...
I wouldn't even know how to describe Blues Beach. Definitely 'summery"..makes me think about drinks with umbrellas in them, but there wasn't enough for me to really get a handle on things.
Reminds me a little of a track from Kama, but I can't quite place which one.
Maybe Tomorrow's Girls.
You made my day.
LB
User: Aussie Torres | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Malcolm: Heidi Collins from CNN is also worth a peek-a-loo. Maybe tomorrow we'll spin EMG. I'll give you new address soon.
Aus
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Aus: sure, love, to - just tell me where to go...........but she reminds me of the thang from the acupuncture clinic.......
ygk
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: ¦: Damn! It's tres difficile to find an abundance of SM picx.......Erica's a bit much for me, ¦ . SM reminds me of a past thang......(or a future one, Hyah!)
"Anchor Lovin" - (my vote is Malveaux......)
ygk
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Color, Aussie?
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Malcolm: Yes. Malveaux is a newsie hottie. She also graduated cum laude from Harvard (Sociology) and has her master's from Columbia. But I can't quite place who she reminds me of.
Thanks for heads up on Blues Beach. Come over some time for a listen to the new one. If you care.
Aus
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: sh: Oh no! I think my cat's got Tones!...or was that Toonces the car driving cat!?
YGK - Here ya go - other sweet things from Boston:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/hill.erica.html
User: sh | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message:
Dano - try Stevie Wonder's "Natural Wonder"...one of my very favs (and a gift from a friend) ...live in concert with lots of "greatest hits" ...this version of "I Wish" might even be better than the studio version...it's one of the best live albums i've ever heard. And don't forget Rolling Stones 40 Licks! great cd...too bad they left off Monkey Man and Midnight Rambler :-(
Floridavid - happy birthday dear!
Tones - you're not still wandering around Texas are ya? lol! ;-)
Beerberianni - Give a listen to "Tumbleweed Connection" one of EJ's very best
St Al - I know, I know...I'm old ;-) But some of the best music of all time was recorded from about 1967 - 1980 ...there are some exceptions, of course...
sh
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Check out this mini-clip of Blues Beach:
http://www.kfog.com/world_class_rock/NR_Audio/steely_dan.rm
It's truly mad. It's wiggy! I love it!
Peppy and weird. Sounds like Sly and the Family Stone meets Sponge Bob meets Prince...Never heard ANYTHING like it from these guys - love to hear them take some chances...very cool...
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Suzanne Malveaux sighting!
Suzanne Malveaux sighting!
Suzanne Malveaux sighting!
I'm not a newsie, really, but Suzanne Malveaux is *sigh*........
Aus - Jones Beach, eh? Hope you're well.........doesn't SM look like someone we know?
got a sample, I think, of Blues Beach........there's a link on the blue, if you're interested...........Real Media.
ygk
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Pretty amazing the old characters that appear out of the woodwork once the dynamic duo decide to put another album/tour effort together anew.
Warm welcome backs to the incomparable Doc Kruger, Z, LadyBaySide, and Dean Wurmer.
Also, happy birthday FloriDavid.
Aus
post scrippte: PNC and Jones Beach....a big Marv Albert: YES!!!!!!!!!
User: C @ W | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Ange - um, the only Booker T song I have heard is "Time is Tight".
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Dano--
RE: YGK's band.
Buy the cd. Judge for yourself.
How'd I do? (At their CD release party, I was selling cds. It's a hard habit to break.)
Seriously, they are *fine*.
LB
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: First...
Floridavid--Happy Birthday!
I'm sitting here listening to Art Crimes 96, and am just so happy that we have another tour to look forward to!
I have not heard any of the New One (it really deserves capitals, doesn't it?) but am frantically switching from radio station to radio station because the ODS (Official Dan Site) says that we should listen for cuts beginning April 21. So far, no luck.
Many good plans for the summer, now.....definitely PNC and Jones Beach, with a fervent hope that the second leg of the tour puts them somewhere accessible for me on my birthday. (hopefully somewhere in Europe!)
I've missed this forum...I generally can't get on during the day, but my boss is away and my desk area is being painted, so I am hanging out in the boss' office today.
Cheers...
LadyB
User: Dano | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: By The Way , Have a good day Flori hope the sistas are ok.
YGK , How are you doing mate , band still going strong.
Just caught you two on the yella!!
Dano.
User: Dano | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Guys , Just a wee question , do a lot of people on the board play compilation albums a lot?? I tend to play Showbiz Kids a lot in the car so i can get a long and continuous play of the Dan , but recently have been in a seventies / eighties mood and apart from the boys have been playing my top three greatest hits listed below do a lot of you go for this option or stick to just albums??
1. Shalamar. A Night To Remember.(Dont give me grief) but i like Jody.
2. Isley Brothers. Forever Gold.
3.Faces. The Best Of The Faces.
Only three at the moment , but would be intrested to see the big hitters choices...StAl Do you play a Greatest Hits Grateful Dead , or does WIP play a Golden Hits of The Floyd.Or is Showbiz still the favourite on this board.
Cheers
Dano.
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: David - you ole dog....... Happy Birfday, Mr. Wisdom! You have a disc comin' down.....doin' anyt'ing outrageous? a little somp'in, somp'in........or to put it another way, "In walked Bud........."
Enjoy - I will get there again this summ........
ygk
User: Floridavid | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: YGK, Are you re-hashing the Drummer (musician) Jokes in Honor of my Birthday today? You Dog!!!
Ok, Here goes...How do you know the stage is Level? The Drummer is drooling out of both sides of his mouth equally. ba-Dum!
Floridavid
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: speaking of...our cat stays in the garage or sometimes in the house depending on the temp outside...but there have been some interlopers in his bed and after his food recently - another gray cat and an orange one I've seen scurry when I open the door from time to time at night...Last night, it looks like our cat (originally a stray ) got fed up and MOAB'ed 'em...the fur must have really been flying, since this morning I swept up a whole bag of cat hair from the garage floor!
Wormy! - good ones and a bonus for YGK! LOL
outta here
User: Hutch | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: How does a lead vocalist change a light bulb?
He holds it and waits for the world to revolve around him (her).
What's the definition of perfect pitch?
You throw the banjo in the trash can without hitting the sides.
Still haven't heard TLM yet.
User: ¦ - OK, now back to work | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: angel: those spots you cited begin the bridge around 1;21 and 2:28 and the "solo" at 2:00...I can hear some cat walking...the verses actually have a walk down and a skip pattern...classy cool...
User: 1mo | Month: 3 | Day: 24
Message: Q - How many bass players does it take to change a lightbulb?
A - None, They let the keyboard player do it with his left hand
User: z | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: steviedan- English musical-"Me and My Girl"- I'm doubling on banjo for the first time in my life- this piece of shit I'm playing on is hard to tune- I tune it like a guitar of course (the slacker's way)D G B E- Gretsch tenor banjo I picked up at a garage sale
As YGK said, I'm not turning any gigs down.
Well, bye bye for awhile, the Briquet Griffon Vendeen will have to fend for himself.
Dr. K is very proud of those tapes of him they found in "Session Nine", but he hasn't told me yet if he was the doctor or patient(s)!
WB all the guitar solos and bass? Sounds like another pop CD.
z
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: YKG- Now that the political lovefest is over, maybe The Last Mall will serve as a reminder of postIraq war America in terms of the price paid for the dreams of political ambition.
BTW, WYEP in Pittsburgh will be playing one of the tracks from the new one on Friday at noon. Yay!
Natalie Maines will be on Primetime Thursday tomorrow. Yay!
But now with EMG about to be released, there may be some difficulty in promoting it. Our boys were profiled on CNN's Worldbeat three years ago, but now that Worldbeat is cancelled, hopefully some of the morning shows
will do the trick. Commercial radio, even AOR stations will play little or none of it. VH1 will steer clear of it in favor of some stupid reality show or repeated showings of "I Love the 80's", and "The Jacksons- An American Dream." I wonder if VH1 still shows music videos?
Maybe they should do an outdoor show unannounced somewhere so they can
do some heavy promoting. Just a thought, if DF and WB is reading this.
User: Downsized | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: I move to dissolve the corporation in a pool of margaritas
We're going out of business
Everything must go
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: angel: and remember the gospel candy from Kama's "Springtime." I believe that's all the citations to date, but don't take my word as gospel...
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: Pat, thanks so much for the download of The Last Mall. It was a very nice surprise. You're the best! *kisses and hugs*
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: Found on the EMG page.
Sunset Specials: Becker and Fagen weigh in.
I wondered what that meant, I guess I know, now. Too funny.
By the way, anyone notice that we have "Gospel Morning". Shades of Almost Gothic's I'm working on Gospel Time. Also "Blood Orange Sky" which is similar to Wine Dark Sea in Down at the Bottom.
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: The View from NYC
- a little tie-in with "Everything Must Go", in that I'm noticing a momentous movement in jobs/activities in NYC. A friend of mine's job is ending this Friday. Another got eliminated (jobwise) last week, another's trying to raise cash for a small production shop (advertising).
In fact, everyone I know is either downsized or knows someone connected with them is going through some type of hardship.
In the end, we're all just tryin' to sort it all outààand the unemployment rate in NYC is the highest it's been since the 70s.
Does everything HAVE to go?
The Last Mall seems way toooooo appropriate.
just a thotààà
ygk
User: wormy | Month: 3 | Day: 23
Message: hey gang!
not enough time to properly say hello -
I see StevieDan's back, you were sorely missed on the GB!
I've been away myself for most of a year
good to hear things are progressing nicely on the album slot
so Walter is playing bass on the whole album, nice!
tracks cut nearly live without a lot of overdubs, great!
no drum sampling, wonderful! (my beef with TaN)
has anyone downloaded The Last Mall to Kaza or another site?
can't wait for Don and Walt to play the Opelousas County Fair come October
cheers all
Wormtom
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Sorry, I can't read the NY Times. Too much shit as the NY Post. I prefer the Hartford Courant. Besides the "pundits" that the media produces are too old, racist, sexist and just plain BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING.
Still haven't heard The Last Mall :(
User: +Que? | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: +En esta hora?
íJust testing!
/C
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Bad Sneakers - did you get my mail? If not, something is wrong.
Everybody - Barcelona is awesome, so much to see, that town has 2000 years on its neck.
Now, got to get Pompe back to town. Wonder how he's been.
/C
User: steviagain | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: okay just one excerpt...
gp: i know you took all the guitar solos on the album, but did you play some rhythm parts as well ?
wb: virtually none - although i did play bass on every song. all of the rhythm parts were done by jon herrington and hugh mccracken. like my hero grant green, i try to avoid playing more than one note at a time [laughs]...
User: steviedan scooped | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: okay randy, you're on your game, man. when the guitar player hit the mailbox today i'm like, "steviesclusive for the gb toNITE !". now i'd like to add...
errr, page fifty-five and hey, dual interview with fripp and belew. oh and yes, the "next big thing wearing ONLY primary colors, whatever...".
w1p, thanx for your comments. i transcribed "astronomy domine" from ummagumma. young steed had a nice bootleg version, but intonation was off by a quarter tone or so, and we didn't want to retune. by the way, my student is about 22 years old...
z, will that be perhaps an operetta ? a bit 'o G&S ? american short opera ? british light music classics ? hey, i love that shit...
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Re: Blues Beach
"Let's just say Bill won't like it..." - StAl
This aint lookin' too good here you two rock legends!
Releasing the song on the west coast was a smart move because if this
is another lame 2VN-ish type song then you may still have time to assume
new identities and leave the country under cover of night before more
discriminating ears have the chance to evaluate it.
(Sorry folks, but we may have to delay the release of EMG once again...)
:)
User: I'vegotyercorruptionrighthereintheNYTIMES | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Kofi steals food from the Iraq children!? Unbelieveable...I mean we knew about France...
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/18/opinion/18ROSE.html
The Last Mall is as good as being there...plush blues!
User: The Charmer | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Hey Kids!
I've been out of the internet loop for a while, but now that D&W are heading out on tour again, I had to get back in.
Could anyone from the Technicolor Motorhome crew get in touch with me? Miz Ducky? Chimpy? The ever-so-lovely Diane?
I would love to fly a couple-thousand miles again to see Steely Dan at the best venue on the tour - The Gorge!
Shout out to St. Al.! Looking forward to breakfast again!
Scott
(The Charmer c.2001)
User: steelydoubt | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: lets see how many times i listened to the last mall today.
one, two, three.......................................................................................................five thousand and twelve.......................................
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Message to Shaun in Boston - bite me you snotty nosed little creep. The feeling's mutual.
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: The Last Mall suuuuuuccccccckkkkkkksssss!!!!
User: tones - somewhere in Texas... | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Oh maaaaaaaaaaan...
User: It hasn't even been online for 2 years | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: but the BlueBook wins.
User: Cyn | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: ..psssst, tones...I don't live in Texas...go to DC..then go east til ya hit the Atlantic Ocean. If ya can't make it on time...I'll leave the sink with the wild ponies on Assateague Island...look for the pinto pony..(hahaha... 80% of them are pintos) she'll show you where I stashed it.
I hear tones now...humming.."On the dunes"...whilst looking for the pony.
User: Randy | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message:
Steely-folk,
So you know (in case you didn't already), Walter Becker is featured in the June issue of 'Guitar Player' talking about the new album; Jack White from 'The White Stripes' is on the magazine cover. Becker confirmed that he's got the bass slot for the whole album, in addition to all the lead guitar work;
Becker says this about the new one:
"Our mission was to cut live tracks, do the album in a more compressed time frame, and have a fairly consistent band playing the tunes. Those are all things we haven't had much success with in the last half of our career. On the 'Aja' album, for example, we had six or seven drummers. This time, we wanted to be able to spend more time focusing on the songs and the feel, and less on overdubbing and stuff like that."
As writer Art Thompson indicates, that's not to say the slickness factor has slipped one iota. "Godwhacker" contains call and response parts between Fagen's synthesizer and Becker's guitar lead, with all rhythm guitar work handled either by Jon Herington or Hugh McCracken.
"The Last Mall" is a nice mid-tempo number, with the usual great groove, nice horns, and sinuous Becker bass lines; Fagen delivers an emotive vocal, and Becker's leads are economical and swinging, with the track sounding like it could have easily been on 'Two Against Nature' (2000), 'Kamakiriad' (1993), 'The Nightfly' (1982), or even 'Gaucho' (1980)-
Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: z remarks "W1P has turned into a cover band celebrity- have you run into Love/Arthur Lee/Baby Lemonade on the CB circuit at all?"
I deduce from this remark that "z" has been reading the Mojo Boards ;-) I have indeed been running into Arthur Lee/Baby Lemonade/Love on the "circuit" through the good offices of one Dave Chapple. Dave Chapple is the current touring bassist for Arthur Lee's Love (Love being Baby Lemonade). Dave Chapple designed the album artwork for A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd and contributed a solo version of San Tropez to the project. He is also the bassist for Harvette which contributed "Bike" to AFFoPF.
User: Larry Bird | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Mu, I'm surprised this bit of news didn't make it into your masturbatory Bechtel links:
"Last week Mr. Shultz's Bechtel Group was able to demonstrate exactly what wars are good for. The Bush administration gave it the first big Iraqi reconstruction contract, a prized $680 million deal over 18 months that puts Bechtel in the driver's seat for the long-term reconstruction of the country, which could cost $100 billion or more.
Bechtel essentially was given a license to make money. And that license was granted in a closed-door process that was restricted to a handful of politically connected American companies.
When the George Bushes and the George Shultzes were banging the drums for war with Iraq, we didn't hear one word from them about the benefits that would be accruing to corporate behemoths like Bechtel. And we didn't pay much attention to the grotesque conflict of interest engaged in by corporate titans and their government cronies who were pushing young American men and women into the flames of a war that ultimately would pour billions of dollars into a very select group of corporate coffers.
Bechtel, incidentally, is the company in charge of the Big Dig in Boston:
It was spring 1997, only a few weeks after he took an engineering job with the Big Dig's private-sector managers, Bechtel/Parsons Brinckerhoff, when David Beck realized something was terribly amiss at the then-$10.8 billion project.
The FleetCenter was missing.
Not the actual FleetCenter, of course. The flashy facility had been grabbing headlines since a groundbreaking ceremony on April 28, 1993.
It was the design drawings. Bechtel had failed to depict the 19,600-seat arena in its preliminary designs, which were completed in October 1994, and instead showed an obstacle-free area for contractors to lay utility lines. Bechtel then failed to fix the problem before signing off on the final design drawings three years later.
"I sent out some e-mails, and made a couple of calls, saying, `Hey guys, we have a problem here,' " Beck recalled.
Months passed, and construction work was under way before the designs reflected the FleetCenter's existence, records show.
"It fell through the cracks, if you will," William R. Mayer, a top Bechtel engineer, recently acknowledged.
But even though Bechtel's gaffe cost taxpayers $991,000, the company never paid a penny back for its mistake. And no one from the state or federal government ever asked.
A yearlong Globe investigation found hundreds of similar errors committed by the Big Dig's management company, which is led by one of the world's largest engineering firms, Bechtel Corp. of San Francisco, and includes another industry titan, Parsons Brinckerhoff of New York. The Globe determined that at least $1.1 billion in construction cost overruns, or two-thirds of the cost growth to date, are tied to Bechtel mistakes.
Yet, even as Bechtel's errors helped drive up the Big Dig's cost, the company never paid for any of its mistakes. Instead, it profited. To date, Bechtel has received more than $264 million beyond what its original contracts called for, in part because Bechtel received additional money to fix its errors, records show."
Dan content: Last Mall rocks!
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Last Mall: Basically, a continuation of where the dynamic duo left off. And Malcolm's "no resolution" characterisation couldn't have been a more fitting description of the traque's abrubpt end. Walter's licks, by the way, were delicious.
Still waiting for my promo disque....should be here very very soon.
And yes, Doctor Mu, the two triangle pings were perfectly placed.
Aus
User: z | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Damn, NY radio has gotten so market-driven, I'm not sure what station would play this "Last Mall" (sounds like a Geo. Romero NOTLD sequel).
I've asked Doc Kruger about the new one (he was at the sessions, of course), but as usual was so comfortably numb on deludin,he has a hard time distinguishing it from the sessions of his many other patients.
WLIR plays some nice stuff sometimes (who did that recent song they play with the lyrics "Iwant to run thru the halls of my high school"?)so I guess I could stand that for a while.
Any tips from the NY crowd-YGK, Aussie, Lady Bayside?
steviedan- glad to hear you're still reaping benefits from your many musical talents- keep it up bro'!-the present day jazz-rock-classical sideperson refuses to die!I'm playing with a Light Opera Co.Sunday- talk about weird gigs!
W1P has turned into a cover band celebrity- have you run into Love/Arthur Lee/Baby Lemonade on the CB circuit at all?
Well, the Briquet Griffon Vendeen is scratching at the door again...
z
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: The Last Mall:
Dealing with crappy work speakers, but in spite of that. I love it. Yeah, that non ending is just too funny! Never get the expected from the Steely ones.
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: I'm trying to "objective"... lol... oops!
User: Aja............up on the hill | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: This discussion is killing me! WHEN is the premiere scheduled for San Diego?
Aja
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: I contacted, by e-mail, WYEP FM in Pittsburgh and the person who e-mailed me back told me that they will premiere a track later this week. I don't know which though, so I e-mailed them a few minutes ago for which song and what day.
I CAN'T FREAKIN' WAIT.
User: lp at work | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: hey tones - that's it - it's christine as the bridge between stevie and lindsay
good call
wow - aja, very cool
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: According to my sources, only one Syd penned and performed track appears on A Saucerful of Secrets -- that would be Jugband Blues. Apparently he also plays a one note guitar part on Roger's song "Corporal Clegg" Because of this minor contribution, Floyd historians do not consider Saucerful a "Syd" album.
User: ¦ - I'm so excited I can barely cope with these freakin' government forms in front of me | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: YGK: Did you year the 2 triangle pings in the intro?...last entry as the crowd rushes in.
I have this image re: the "near resolution" at the end of a band playing Live at the mall entrance as a crew picks up and closes that Last Mall behind the band...and then as the band is ready for the Big Finish, someone literally pulls the plug...
User: tones | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Cyn - cobalt blue? COBALT BLUE?!! How did you know that was one of my *favorite* colors? I'll pick it up... I'm hopping in my car and driving in the general direction of Texas (by way of the Hoover Dam...) right now! Don't worry... I'll find ya. I mean - how big can Texas be anyway?
lp - 2 listens in and I'm having the same trouble with the new Mac. I'm trying to be subjective, but to me there is a big hole in the middle of the sound, right where Christine McVie would be. Like there's no interaction between what Lindesy and Stevie are doing melodically and what the rhythm section's doing. There's a couple of place where I think I hear Christine singing or playing where the sound fills out nicely, but they don't last. I hope it grows on me...
W1P - I wonder if the loose tempo'd drumming on "Money" was intentional, because Mason is nothing if not precise. "Money" is weird because it's built around the bass/single-line guitar riff which is very strict tempo, so the drums don't really have to keep time on that one. Mason swings the rhythm like a jazz drummer. And yes, the middle bit (with the guitar solo) is quite a bit faster - you'll notice the tempo drop back down when they go back to the 7/8 section. I suspect that's what they're talking about. I think it's for effect, 'pecially 'cause I don't think anything on that album is random...
Btw 1P - Would you be interested in doing consignment at our store for "...Fair Forgery..."? E me (above) and let me know...
Don't know about anyone else, but I can't wait to see snakie on that trampoline!
poodles
t
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: YGK: Yeah, I just cracked up when I heard the non--ending. I'm really listening to Walter's guitar...and let me tell you in my non-musician opinion, it kicks major ass!!!!! While his classic solos from Bad Sneakers, josie on the Magnificent Seven were cut and paste phrase by phrase jobs - this really has a flow. His sound has never been better. He can really "hold" and extend those notes like Zingg or even Carlton. The key is the way he interacts with the bass, the horns, the piano - he hears the whole band at once - amazing. The engineering and production on the Last Mall really remind me of Rock & Soul Revue - the way the good Lord meant recorded music to be!
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Just heard "The Last Mall"..........snappy, funny, will be a great tune to close the mall down with ......., or as they say in Jersey, the 'mawls'......
and I don't know if the ending was supposed to be that way, the classic blues walkup to resolution........but there's no resolution!!!!
HA!
still had me waiting......
funny, funny, track.......reminds me of Gaucho outtakes.......
ygk
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: We're drivin' down Hwy 1 with the top down. The red convertible hums and the chrome wheel covers reflect in stacatto off the store window as we cruise by. Justine laughs as her pink hat flips off her head and tumbles in a turbulent wake out the back. But the bass and piano hurl us forward in 4/4 as the Last Mall eminates from all stations...the sound of summer...
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Pink One: Thanks for pointing me to "More" and "Le Valee". Films should be arriving by United States Postal Service in a few days. Also, I thought that Mr. Syd Barrett appeared on the band's second effort, "A Saucerful of Secrets". Am I wrong there?
Aus
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Steviedan remarks "w1p, have definitely thought of you lately as i have two bass students doing pink floyd. i just taught one "astromomy domine"(sp) and the other does "breathe" and "money". that's right, a beginning bassist tackles 7/4 time. they come up with this stuff, i just transcribe and show how."
Your spelling was correct. A piece of trivia Astronomy Domine is the only Pink Floyd song to have been released by each "lineup" of Pink Floyd. The song first appeared on Piper at the Gates of Dawn -- Pink Floyd's first album and the only one to feature Syd Barrett. A live version next appearaed on Ummagumma performed by the Roger Waters led Floyd. After Roger's departure, The David Gilmour led Floyd released a live version on the two CD set Pulse. [As you know, Mike Keneally has done Astronomy Domine for "A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd" -- his bass player Bryan Beller is absolutely incredible and plays stuff on this version that blows my socks off -- but I guess that's required when you're playing next to Keneally!)
I am not an instrumentalist and know virtually nothing about how to play. As a "fan," there is a bass part in Breathe that I absolutely love -- it first appears after the line "don't sit down, it's time to dig another one" and before "long you live and high you fly" -- that little "change" (if that's the right terminology) always gets me.
I am told by members of Which One's Pink? that the recording of money is very interesting because the drummer Nick Mason is apparently "all over the place" -- slowing down and speeding up in no discernable pattern. When we were thinking about putting together the "Dark Side of the Rainbow" Wizard of Oz synch, there was a lot of discussion about how we were going to keep in time with something that is a moving target.
BTW -- there is nothing wrong ranking with Phish, DMB or SCI very highly. Now, if you are ranking REO, Styx and Journey that high, you might need to be put straight.
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Loser: I don't rate any of those bands over Steely Dan. The only band I rate over Steely Dan is the Grateful Dead but that's because they're all about life philosophy than just music.
Come on, admit it man. You're dying to hear my opinion. You worship the ground I walk on and constantly try to emulate me in your pathetic real life.
I'd definitely have to say I prefer The Last Mall to Blues Beach but I'm gonna need a few more listens before I can formulate any sort of coherent analysis.
Look on Kazaa, Grokster or (I use) WinMX. It's out there...
StAl
User: Paige | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Please....someone tell me how I can hear "The Last Mall." I missed my opportunity. Someone must have it recorded somewhere. PLeeeeeeeeze.
-Paige
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Aja: Nice name you have. I believe that Donald Fagen knew someone with that name. Similar to the fact that he knew a person named Rikki, too. What he did with it though (along with Walter Becker), goes so far beyond just a name of a person. For some thoughts from Dan fans regarding the song, Aja. Check out Oleander's excellent Fever Dreams site. Click the link above, or copy this webpage.
http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/a.htm
Good luck and enjoy. It's a great name to have.
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Drat, Snakie get's the tramopline ! Guess I was busy trying to figure out which Steely Song is most descriptive for lovemaking...lol We've got through CBAT, 2VN and Aja without deciding ;) Alas I missed the opportunity to bid. Geez Cyn I can't believe the poodles and opium pipe didn't give me an edge over Duncan and Snake Hips.
User: Turn off your beemers | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: St.Al- I can't wait for your comments on Blues Beach. After all, you rate String Cheese, Phish and Dave Matthews over Steely Dan. With that in mind, your opinion of Blues Beach or any other Steely Dan song means NOTHING to me!
User: Aja Cortizo | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Does anyone know what Aja is or who or where it comes from. My parents chose my name from this song/album and I would love to trace it's meaning.
Any help would be great
Thanks,
Aja x
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Hmmm... Let's just say Bill wont like it. I'm going to have to hear it a few more times myself. My first impressions with Steely Dan's music are usually wrong so I'm reserving comment.
StAl
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: KMTT is about to play Blues Beach. Full report to follow...
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: m.e.: I imagine it's a Bright Light Big City (title track all 2 min of it blues girders with Police Zenyatta Mondatta meets NYC coffee after watching too much Aaron Brown motif
t: It's competence not corruption - every engineer (or ex in my case) worth his salt knows about Bechtel - they're the Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Carl Lewis of big Civil Engineering construction firms...go look down Hoover dam and then cruise the Chunnel - come back in a week...no, put a government bid out for major equipment and come back in a Year. The Iraqis don't have that kind of time, despite the fact this mess took less time than Reno took to capture Waco or the Cuban boy...
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: ATTN Dr. Mu: Please email me at the above address.
StAl
User: Luckless Pedestrian, home with sick kidlet | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: hey all
i am really trying to like the new fleetwood mac release - been a fan since about 73 so it's tough that i might not like this release - listened to it twice and all i hear is that buckingham can't hold a note anymore, but, at least he can still play a reelin guitar
anyone else having this problem?
doctor k is in the house, things are looking up
please post a URL anyone when you are ready to share any of the new tunes
the park loop road is open, spring has come to maine!!!
User: SoulMonkey | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: "The Last Mall" also reminded me of the sniper shootings. Just as "Jack of Speed" may have been misinterpreted(Ted Kennedy), it's still kind of cool to put the clues together. Outstanding song. I can't wait to get my hands on a copy. Mad, wiggy? Most defintely. Will they ever cease to amaze us? I doubt it.
User: Cyn... | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: Danoooo....No, we're moving to Wedmore...about 29 miles NE of Taunton and 23 miles south of Bristol. Lovely little town..oozing with British quaintness. We have a stone cottage...even has a name..Brook Cottage...guess that cuz we have a brook that runs right in front of the front door.Alas..I won't be there til June...so we can't make the May3rd Mini Danfest. I have your number and I'll ring you once we're all settled.
snakie..the trampoline is yours...since I've had no bid from Moll or Dunc.
tones..I KNOW you want that colbalt blue bathroom sink I found in the big shed.
angel...Sweetie...can I interest you in a weed-eater?...barely used.And thats obivious by the state of my yard.
JJ....I have 2 vacumns...both have no dead squirrels in them.Gimme 20.00 and they're yours.But it'll cost you another 10.00 if you want them with dead squirrels.
Jim#.. have ladders...lots ' ladders...
ok..back to the attic and the shed and the bedrooms and the baths...but first just for tradition.."I'll have another drink, Cyn"...
HA!..beat ya to it...ya moron!
User: Scotty | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: I'm with G. Please, we HAVE to hear this !!
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: you guyz kill me with this Mall Talk!!!!!
did anyone record it and or has a link to a obscure cyberplace where we can get our fix????
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: SteveeDan:
WOW !!!!!!
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou
The sun is out here & IÆm on my own at work.
There's a hastily constructed sign that reads æÆclosed back in 10 minsÆÆ
All the machines are offà there is perfect silence & IÆm Listening to The Last Mall.
I wish Linda was here I want to kiss someone !!!
Wiggy it certainly is !!! & I love it
Thank's
User: EVERYONE | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: WELCOME SCOTTY FROM DOWN UNDER!!!!
WELCOME BACK DOC KRUGER!!!!
User: ps | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: aarrgghh, must be cummerbund. wasted in cucumber land .. nah .. today it's like the egg and yolk drooling over Elmer's face while Daffy and Bugs are tapping it all away (Joni singing it)
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 22
Message: luv this, right after you again :-)
a Banyan Tree Bow for mr. Stevie "cumberland&cello" Dan :-)
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: wow, lotta excitement ! what with a few of you getting an early hit, i'm getting that ol' contact here. blues changes, huh... kinda talked about that a day or two ago. sounds characteristically dark & tasty. but yes... i can wait...
and with dr k rollin' in, z CAN'T be far behind ! it keeps getting better everyday...
and gina, yes it was great right away to see you still making the banyan bows... i usually think of keb mo as a black james taylor and that's not a bad thing. i've done a couple of his tunes with students. not really a blues artist as filed often. he does wear a blues HAT, however...
and JIMBO ! my favorite band plus my favorite magazine ! in print there can be no better news !
w1p, have definitely thought of you lately as i have two bass students doing pink floyd. i just taught one "astromomy domine"(sp) and the other does "breathe" and "money". that's right, a beginning bassist tackles 7/4 time. they come up with this stuff, i just transcribe and show how. btw, i think count basic is pretty groovin'. kind of like brand new heavies. acid jazz they call it. i think that "astronomy domine" was "acid" jazz...
User: Dr. Warren Kruger | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Yes, I'm back! It would take a lot more than the world-wide military industrial complex conspiracy to keep the good doctor down for too long!
Even St. Al is in their back pocket, what with his hero Dennis Miller
selling out to the Geo.W war machine. It's alright big guy, I realize they had the gun barrel pointed at the back of your head too, but you could've let me back on a little sooner...
I see many of my former followers are still here, probably held captive too, the 2 Stevie-ee Dans, my esteemed colleague Dr. whatever-he-calls- himself now, and the rest of the Whole Sick Crew, to quote my good friend, Thomas Pynchon.
Cara Mia- I guess the "week at the college didn't turn out as we planned", damn Gallstones attack- wasn't fit to see anyone or anything for the whole week. Probably part of the same darned conspiracy- who knows what they put in street deludin nowadays. My gig was in Brooklyn, not Manhattan if you went.
LG- We're going to have to take matters into our own hands regarding the darn NJ Ed. System! Eliminating the arts and language requirements for graduation is beyond criminal!
Oh yes, "Everything Must Go"- they got that title from some of the EST treatments I was giving the tall skinny one, you know most of your long-term memory goes after you do that for too long.
That's what it took to cure him this time- next time it'll probably take the old scalpel routine...
Well, things are getting a little fuzzy right now (darned street deludin!)so I better sign off- no, you don't have to tell me how much you missed me, I'm quite happy here with my Briquet Griffon Vendeen waiting for me!
Prodigal Sonly Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
User: moray eel | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Does anyone else get the feeling that The Last Mall has an evil tone to it? In a Beltway Sniper kind of way?
I haven't heard the song and I've only read a few of the lyrics that have been posted on the "blue", but it sounds like someone's going postal in a mall.
"blood orange sky"
"kiss the checkout girls goodbye" (you can kiss your ass goodbye?)
"take the ramp to the expressway(?)"
I don't know. It just seems like there are some possible similarities between The Last Mall and other songs like Third World Man or Don't Take Me Alive.
Not the sort of song you would expect to hear before a Kenny G. song.
m.e.
User: Scotty | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Hi all,
I often browse through the SIS postings, especially when I need a lift. Its nice to know there are so many passionate Steely Dan fans in the world.
Sitting on the other side of the world, envious of you guys in the States. And whats with the radio stations over there ? Where are the feeds for the starving ?
I wish they would tour Australia. Its got to the point, where I am seriously considering a trip to your fair country, just to see the boys live. The closest we get to a "live" performance is by a tribute band called The Bodacious Cowboys who get together every few months with some good local talent in Sydney, usually at a jazz/blues venue called The Basement. A great night out, but its like drinking lite beer. I want the full strength stuff !!!
Do you reckon this long suffering fan should hang the expense and cross that fine line ?
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: StAl- Back in the mid 90's there was a smooth jazz station in Pittsburgh.
Some of the music wasn't anything to remember I admit, but there were some elements of acid jazz including Gota and Incognito. Plus some Herbie Hancock and some Bobby Caldwell. After that it got switched to a 7o's soul station and then mutated to something unrecognizable. But, I now listen to WDUQ which has straight jazz like Miles, Brubeck, Billie, etc. I also listen to WYEP which has jazz as well as music by Eva Cassidy, Indigo Girls, Ben Harper, etc. Just for the record, Kenny G ranks up with Yanni, Pat Boone, Creed and Lee Greenwood as the Antichrists of proper musical taste.
I think you have to agree that Yanni is not jazz. If you heard his music(and I hope you haven't. Believe me, once you hear it,, nausea sets in:)), you already know that watching paint dry is much more interesting than listening to Linda Evans' ex-boyfriend.
Just wanted to clear my name and not want you to worry that I like anything
that sounds too sugary and sweet.
P.S. Has anyone recorded The Last Mall off the radio? If so, let me know.
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Jimbo: You make it sound like you actually listen to a smooth jazz station and the fact that a Seattle smooth jazz station would play Yanni is a bad thing?
Smooth Jazz is what it is -- music to sleep by. Yanni, Kenny G, all same.
StAl
User: New release highlights: | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Yardbirds - With guest "skunk"...
Jaco Pastorius - anthology
Tower of Power
Daniel Lanois
Regina Carter
Madonna
User: hey | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: can someone who taped the last mall off the radio put it on Kazaa? you could even put it under a false name, so that everyone wouldn't have access to it - just the Dan faithful who are going to buy a copy anyway.
User: wordz on Konocti - | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Witnesses say like with most venues, back a bit is better than closer and to the side. And apparently it can be rather hot in the summer.
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: r.i.p. Nina Simone
User: Band name of the week: | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Bad Haggis
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Angel- THANKS! So many categories to choose from. Still, I can't even believe that a smooth jazz station in Seattle would play Yanni. Good reason enough not to move there.
S.D. ALERT- In the June 2003 issue of Downbeat Magazine, out on May 19th or before, Steely Dan will be the cover story as well as the main article.
Find a nearest magazine or bookstore that carries Downbeat. Remember May 19th.
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: ODP ''Updates''
Face thanks for the great message
User: angel (found this last night) | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Adult Album Alternative
(AAA) A station which plays primarily current music which tends to appeal more to adults than to teenagers. AAA playlists are much broader than the limited playlists of hit radio, and therefore depend on album tracks as well as on music released or designated as singles. Stylistically, such stations may play rock, folk-rock, country-rock, modern rock, blues, folk, and world music. Some publications refer to the adult-oriented rock music heard on AAA stations as "Progressive Rock", not to be confused with the 70's music of the same name.
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Had to work today. Did anyone record The Last Mall? I guess I'll have to find Blues Beach on the AAA stations.
What's AAA mean. And I don't mean the travel part.
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Caught the last 1:00 or so of the song. Fastest I have ever done anything in a Doctor's office.... :-)
Yes, on the Walter Becker guitar licks. Tasty stuff. I managed just one line before Donald went back to the chorus of The Last Mall.
The line goes, "Kiss the Check Out Girls Goodbye". Unfortunately, I don't know the context of it, in the rest of the song.
Dave Koz was coming from NYC, so I was hoping that he managed to get either Donald or Walter on the air. Did that occur? I got the impression that it did not.
Back to work this week. Hi Snakie. :-)
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Long boring story, had to miss the debut on The Wave this morning. Did hear Count Basic -- not bad for Austrian "jazz" artists. Sally Semrad's Wish You Were Here was played last night on KCRW bringing to four the total number of "A Fair Forgery" tracks aired by our NPR heroes!
User: Sociable Hermit | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Stevee,
Is the song going immediately into the WAVE's rotation? 'Cause if it is, I'll stop playing cd's in the car and start listening to the radio.
Herm
User: snakehips | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message:
W1P - Keb Mo is AWESOME! Saw him a couple years ago with Bonnie Raitt. I'm gonna have to find those Keb Mo discs and throw em in the car cd player. Haven't listened in a while.
St Al - talk about music that reminds me of sex - the guitar solo in Boston Rag (and I've cut and pasted your words re: WOH) "Starts out slow and rhythmic, builds to a peak, then backs off a bit -- then WHAMO!" ...and thanks for reminding the guys that sex should take more than 5 minutes...lol
Tones and Aussie - LOL! 5 minutes of sex and 3:21 of cuddling? I know you guys are better than that ;-)
Cynny my dear - I thought that trampoline had my name on it? ;-) When you're done throwing everything out - NO, NOT THE DOG! - send email if you have a spare moment. I wish you the very best sistah.
sh
User: SteveeDan - Riding The Wave | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Good morning everyone --
I just heard "The Last Mall" track that was debuted this morning here in L.A. on 94.7 "The Wave". It was slick. It was built on a blues chassis. It had Walter Becker guitar licks all over it.
It's upon us. (Dave Koz played a Kenny G. song directly after it ... The Horror !)
Other than a few passing chords here and there, this one's not too difficult to learn. Now for those of you trying to learn the guitar licks ... that could be a bit more challenging. (Howard ?!?)
Catch y'all on da flip side ...
SteveeDan
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: Within the next hour folks. So, no later then 7:30A for The Last mall.
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: http://www.ksds-fm.org/ or see url above.
BLUZ and Jazz 88 are back via webcast, shameless plugging for it :-)
if only i can get that darn abacast working, is it my Mac or .......?
User: G, | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: hey, been a long time since posting right after Steviedan. howdy!
reminded me i've been around this GB a couple of years as well :-)
ha! still feels ok ...
just popped in to wish you lot some fine easter days with family and or friends and loads of music perhaps ...
so Keb Mo rawks???????????
hi t .. :-)
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 21
Message: hey (.), i'll just call you "dot"... hey dot, you rock on the spot ! the damn cowsills ! what a world ! ironically, i actually have their greatest hits on cd and it's the first tune ! you know, they looked like weezer with their kindergarden teacher and they've even got their own little danny partridge-dude on bass. however, unlike danny this mini-cowsill is CLEARLY pumpin' and thumpin' that bass. there's no faking the cowsills...
oh... and angel if you are "dot" thank you and the little insinuation of antiquity was as much a self-stinger. i lived EVERY single day of the sixties. some twice...
is scott peterson goin' down or WHAT ?
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: With all this Crossfire I forgot this wish you all happy holiday:
Happy 4/20 everyone!
Hope you all got lots of "grass" in your baskets...
User: well, last wordz after this: | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: You accuse me of selective editing when I included the very quote you highlighted *very much in it's context*?
No doc. Selective is you insinuating the $680 million contract is beneath Bechtel while ignoring the point that was made:
"The deal could be worth more than its projected $680 million price tag, because the winning bidder is expected to become the front-runner for future business as the United States invests up to $100 billion to help rebuild Iraq."
It's all yours doc, and please, try to stick to the issues...
User: spellecheque: | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: ague = argue
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: I never said they couldn't do the job. And I'm supposed to believe that *because* Bechtel somehow got all those choice projects they're above reproach? Are *you* that gullible? I don't think so.
You haven't pointed out *anything* that would even suggest everything was on the up & up. Just a list of rah-rah points for Bechtel while excusing the appearence of government sponsored collusion. Throwing up Bechtel's accomplishments doesn't do anything except suggest that I am somehow being disloyal to a huge corporation that has made billions for doing their job. You're just reacting. But thanks for reading the link.
You have claimed to be a centrist, which is a typical right-wing tactic ala Fox"news", because if you're a centrist, then I must be some far left lunatic. That's a bullshit tactic doctor. Because I *do* read and consider everything you type (well almost... I'll admit to dozing off a few times...;-). If you could acknowledge that even 30% of what I type here may be true then you'd at least have to admit there are SERIOUS conflict-of-interest issues with this administration.
As an "centrist" - as an *American*, how can you ague with the basic point of the article:
"We should have a separation between the state and corporations."
?
The last wordz your's doc.
User: finally... | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: for de coup de grasse:
Well, looky - Bechtel wins pollution clean-up kudos
www.bhi-erc.com/news/reach/2001/02200108.pdf
www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/ power-plant-pollution-control.html
àand see who helped to nail Enron:
http://www.corpwatchindia.org/news/PND.jsp?articleid=1003
User: Selective editing | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: you forgot this one:
"Even critics who suspect that Bechtel prevailed based as much on its Beltway cachet as any clear-cut advantage over competitors don't doubt the company ******is up to the job."*******
End of story
User: Been There Done That | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: The ignorance is truly astounding...
Besides the Hoover dam, Bechtel also built the "Chunnel" - 90 minutes from London to Paris (it's a start!)...quoting salon.com who pulled for Iraq in the War is not impressive. What IS impressive is Bechtel's list of accomplishments. They're a massive and competent engineering & construction firm...regardless of color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, or polotical persuasion the accomplishments listed below are astounding. They simply are the most qualified to do the job. Period.
Here is a list of Bechtel's signature projects:
What is a signature project? An extensive project that approaches or exceeds - $1 billion dollars and is of significant impact - do they make a difference? Such signature projects are challenging commercial, technical, and organizational complexity undertaings of high risk and difficult analyses of economic viability against sensitive political and environmental issues.
and they are:
Alma Aluminum Smelter (1998-2000)
Since 1989, Bechtel has helped Quebec emerge as a world leader in aluminum production by building four smelters in the province. Two of them were completed for Alcan, including the Alma smelter, whose capacity of more than 400,000 tons per year makes it one of the worldÆs largest.
Ankara-Gerede Highway, Turkey (1986-1998)
Sheer size distinguishes Turkey's Ankara-Gerede highway, built by Bechtel and its joint venture partner, Turkish construction company Enka Insaat va Sanayi. Worth some $1.6 billion, it is one of the largest highway construction jobs ever.
**Bay Area Rapid Transit, United States (1959-1976)
San Francisco's Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) system was like nothing attempted before. Fully automated and computer controlled, the trains shared more in common with jetliners than with traditional subway cars. BART mass transit system has inspired similar systems worldwide. **
***Channel/Tunnel England, France (1986-1994) The CHUNNEL!
The search for the best way to cross the English Channel was a dream or just a part of a Donald Fagen song until recently, when Bechtel built the 32-mile undersea leg between England and France. The privately financed $14.7 billion project has made possible 500 undersea train trips a day with speeds of up to 99 miles per hour between England and France.***
Hong Kong Airport Core Programme, Hong Kong (1990-1998)
An integrated Bechtel-government team delivered the new, US$20 billion Hong Kong International airport on or ahead of schedule and achieved program budget savings of more than US$1 billion.
***Hoover Dam, United States (1931-1936)
Hoover Dam represented the greatest challenge of Bechtel's history in the early 1930s. It was the largest civil engineering project in the history of the United States, and a dam that would control one of the most powerful rivers in the world. *** note: The Physiologist who ensured safety of the workers on the Hoover damn project, D.B. Dill (also founded the Harvard fatigue lab) is my academic great-great-grandfather: D.B. Dill --> Ken Trammil --> Steve Horvath --> my mentor --> me
James Bay Hydro Complex (1972-1985)
The James Bay Hydroelectric Projectù was one of the largest undertakings ever mounted. Appropriately named La Grande, this $13.8 billion project harnessed the power of three river basins and the upper catchment of two other rivers in an area of northwestern Quebec thatÆs larger than the state of New York.
Jubail Industrial City, Saudi Arabia (1976-present)
Saudi Arabia's Eastern Province is home to Jubail Industrial City, which was built essentially from scratch over the past quarter-century. The $20 billion project is recognized as the largest single industrial development project in history.
Kuwait Fires, Kuwait (1991)
When Bechtel arrived in war-ravaged Kuwait in March 1991, experts predicted that quelling the oil field inferno and restoring production of hydrocarbons would take up to five years. It took less than half that time.
PGT/PG&E Pipeline, United States (1989-1993)
Bechtel completed a massive expansion of the natural gas pipeline that runs from Idaho's border with Alberta to central California, taking extraordinary measures to protect the environment.
enough already...
User: Mrs. Greene - Chicago, April 8, 1925 | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: "Gosh, I don't know dear... How about... Shecky?"
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: (not my) Father (don't need one...) -
Appearing now at http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/special_packages/iraq/5662973.htm
See it for yourself! Incredible statements like:
"...Bechtel's ties with some of the Republican party's elder statesmen - as well as current executives with direct links to the Bush administration - have critics worried that the company enjoyed an unfair advantage in the bidding to lead the biggest reconstruction since World War II."
and:
"The deal could be worth more than its projected $680 million price tag, because the winning bidder is expected to become the front-runner for future business as the United States invests up to $100 billion to help rebuild Iraq."
Also, don't miss:
"Even critics who suspect that Bechtel prevailed based as much on its Beltway cachet as any clear-cut advantage over competitors don't doubt the company is up to the job. Instead, they worry that by limiting the bidding to Bechtel and five other U.S. companies, the federal government might not have gotten the best free-market deal.
"We are concerned that the government seems to be handpicking their buddies for these contracts," said Seth Morris, research associate for the Washington-based Project on Government Oversight."
and featuring:
"We should have a separation between the state and corporations. Instead, they are acting more like partners," said Jim Vallette, a research director at the Institute for Policy Studies, a Washington-based think tank.
At least two current Bechtel executives have ties to the Bush administration.
A Bechtel senior vice president, Jack Sheehan, has sat on the Defense Policy Board formed to advise Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who himself once lobbied for one of the company's projects. Sheehan, a retired four-star Marine Corps general, manages Bechtel's petroleum and chemical operations.
And President Bush appointed Bechtel Chairman Riley Bechtel to the Export Council in February."
Yes, these amazing facts and more can be found at,
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/special_packages/iraq/5662973.htm
Go there, form your own opinion. Or just be content to know Rechtel built the Hoover Dam ("hell, if they built the f*ing Hoover Dam they *must* be ok... Gawd bless America!")...
User: Your Father - on the John Deere | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: While I'm sure St. Al enjoys this, let's get back to the subject
What's the CNN-driven whining? Oh yeah, there's a media Giant whose credibility is disappearing as fast as Irving Azoff was bought out by AOL Time Warner Without Ted Turner Whatever:
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030415-872196.htm
Haliburton is out and Bechtel (who donated to DNC and RNC) built the f*ing Hoover Dam - so what's on YOUR resume? I've been through bid processes at the University and Fed process - it takes a freakin' year to get a computer! In addition, the Senate (i.e., Daschle and Lott) held up the budget for 5 months screwing up everything for NIH and other social programs all held to a fixe, small rise this year...Iraqis need water and electricity and rebuilding like NOW, not in 2005...it's moot (for a while) as soft money is currently banned with McCain-Feingold (at least until its found unconstitutional because of the stupid clause limiting political ads in the last 60 days - clear violation of the primary purpose of the 1st Ammendment - which is political free speech)
Where I come from 680,000,000 - 30,000,000,000 does not = profit...save this ludicrous shit for Stephen King novels and let's get back to the Dan...don't make me stop this car again...
User: NFL | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: Keyshawn,
We were happy when you left the NY Jets.
Go ahead, make us happy again.
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: And how about Bechtel being given the $680 million Iraq rebuilding contract, much the same way the Bush the Butcher got into office - i.e. a quickie partisan (to the point of even shutting out our closest ally) secret bidding process, without even the *effort* to make some semblance of fairness.
I've been stewing about this for days. Even though after reading lp's fabled post #680 it was sorta anti-climactic...
Anyway...
What kind of a name is "Shecky"?
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS nothing other than the quintessential political expression of [a] social dung heap. Its vice president, Mr. Richard Cheney, divides his time between presiding over a secret government and working as a bag man for Halliburton, which continues to pay him more than a half million dollars a year. The secretary of the Army, Mr. Tom White, is a former high executive of Enron. Mr. Richard Perle, who has shaped administration policy on Iraq, holds secret business meetings with the arms merchant Khashoggi. As for the president himself, the elevation of this utter nobodyùwhose most notable characteristic is his personal sadismùwill be seen by historians as the expression of the moral and intellectual degradation of the American ruling class. A class that could choose Mr. Bush as its leader is one that has, figuratively and literally, lost its head.
There is still, despite everything, a real world. Beneath the glitz and glitter, the crisis of American capitalism is assuming gigantic proportions....The massive diversion of resources to fund tax cuts for the wealthiest section of the population threatens national insolvency....A staggering percentage of the nationÆs wealth is in the hands of the wealthiest two percent of the population. A study by Kevin Phillips established that the annual income of the richest 14,000 families is greater than the annual income of the poorest 20,000,000 families. --WSWS, 03.26.03
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: W1P: Why did I know that post would follow your last...."come over to the dark side of the force"....lol
Shecky: Keep your day job....
I will never be able to listen to Rikki again....:-)
Steviedan: I think I used to own that 45. Thanks for reminding me about my age, NOT!
My sister asked me the other day if I knew what the word Easter meant. I said no, it means something? Well, as my Easter comment to any who care, it actually is the name of a pagen goddess whose celebration was in the springtime. I guess this is lesson 2 on how to convert the Pagens. The first, of course being that Christmas is celebrated during the feast of Saturnalius (sp). Happy Easter. Egg bread and Meat pie over at my place today. Roast for dinner.
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: Keb Mo RAWKS
User: KeyShawn | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: Re: the post below- Bill, as much as you always try...you're just not funny.
User: Additional tour dates announced | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: In response to the overwhelming desire for more tour dates, Steely Dan
will now be appearing at your local drive-in movie theater. Donald and
Walter will be delivering popcorn and soda to your car on rollerskates.
Our sound system has also been improved! Just roll your window half way
down, hang the metal box on your window, adjust the sound to your liking,
and your done! How easy is that?
And don't forget folks, this weeks feature movie is,
"THE CREATURE THAT ATE SANTA MONICA".
Don't miss it!
User: Buddy Hackett | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: Speaking of tour dates...,
February 13, 1956
The Copacobana Night Club
8:00 pm
I'll be sharing the bill with The Andrews Sisters and... uh...
Wait a minute. What year is this? DAMN! Gimme a minute to fix this time
machine willya... Stupid friggin' Sears time machines never work right.
User: Dano | Month: 3 | Day: 20
Message: Cyn , Are you actually moving to Taunton?? Are you over when the UK Danfest is on May 3rd!! Blast me back , and dont throw away the Bottle Opener.
StAl , t , I reckon if i went for five minutes the missus will be giving me three and a half minutes of ressusitation!!
Dano.
User: . | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Song: The Rain, The Park, and Other Things
Artists: The Cowsills
User: where are stevie's manners | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: angel thanx four the for one one...
User: please help steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: appeal to the brain-tap-shuffle trust...
the tune "(i love the) flower girl" that plays over the claritin commercial ? it's a sixties joint and i know it's not frickin' "flower drum song". thanx to google, i was able to locate one other inquiry into it's identity. that was not really satisfying...
you guys will know. some of you probably even lived back then...
User: Shecky | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Funny, I always thought "Through With Buzz" was a great song for sex - with time left over to sing the last verse! Hell, sometimes all it takes is the marimba intro to "Rikki..."!
*boom-splash!*
Heh heh... But I wanna tell ya...
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Listened to a few minutes of 94.7 The Wave this afternoon and I find that I still miss KMET!!!!!!! St. Al, radio in LA just flat out stinks here. I so wish I had something like KMMT.
I listen to CD's almost exclusively. But then again, I rarely drive to work. Kind of tough to get into a DJ when you are on the train every day.
So, if I were a radio DJ and wanted to get the most "bump" from airing this new tune, I would air it between 7:30A and 8:00A. It just happens that this is exactly when I will be in the Doctors office on Monday. So I think my chances of catching it are slim and none. UGHH!!!!!!!!!
Aussie, good luck with your contact. Colour, yes, please.
Steviedan: The B man is still around. Don't fret.
"West Of Hollywood" like sex....I never thought of it that way....LOL
Mu: I go for "On the Dunes" for a marathon sex session....
LP: Is that an Orangemen Shirt!!!! I am so jealous.
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Q: As far as hops, I never discriminate. Blondes, redheads, brunettes, dark, etc. Though I must admit that on very hot days nothing beats an ice cold Budweiser bier.
Aus
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Q: Sony Digital, Altec Lansing speakres compleat with subwoofer system.
Clean, and crisp. As clear as an unmuddied lake in deepest summer.
Aus
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: It all starts with Royal Scam. On my way to see Keb Mo tonight -- long story
User: Session Nine | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Doctor:"Simon, where do you live?"
"I live in the weak and the wounded,...Doc."
All things must pass, everything must go, all in love is fair, love is all you need, this is the only thing that I am sure of-it's that all that lives is going to die, all this is that, black is black I want my deludin back, child is father to the android,-
"Do it Gordie! Do it!!"
User: Q | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Auss, so what's the system?(stereo I mean)
I'm a Dutch & St. Louis,MO beer man myself and I also dig satellite so to get Speedvision in splendid sharpness...
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Cyn, I have a set of 6 inch, poodle salt&pepper shakers I'll throw in as boot, and maybe an opium pipe with a monkey holding it as the stand! Sorry... the elephant tables have kinda grown on me..lmao
My favorite Steely is still Katy Lied hands down. I loved it's blusey sound and biting lyrics. Royal Scam would be a close second. I also liked Scam's sarcasm. I'm partial to "What a Shame About Me" It is very similar to "old" Steely in it's lyrics and music IMO.
off to cook some more....the kiddos have requested my Chocolate Decadence cake :)
Happy Easter!!!!!
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Cyn, I have a set of 6 inch, poodle salt&pepper shakers I'll throw in as boot, and maybe an opium pipe with a monkey holding it as the stand! Sorry... the elephant tables have kinda grown on me..lmao
My favorite Steely is still Katy Lied hands down. I loved it's blusey sound and biting lyrics. Royal Scam would be a close second. I also liked Scam's sarcasm. I'm partial to "What a Shame About Me" It is very similar to "old" Steely in it's lyrics and music IMO.
off to cook some more....the kiddos have requested my Chocolate Decadence cake :)
Happy Easter!!!!!
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: did anyone mention smooth jazz? listening to the berkeley channel now, sade and her Nothing Can Come Between Us ... they have a lot of Dan too, so kinda waiting for a tune to pop up ..
hey Clas, you and the mrs have a good time down south :-)
any Great Danes and Poodles from China around there?
i just luv this waiting for EMG around the guestbooks ... a special kinda thrill somehow ...
Cyn, bonne chance in Britannia.
Wormy ~~~~~ said he'd be around as soon as EMG would be released ...
Looking forward to that :-)
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Errata: Post.
Aus
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Q: Connections to the industry. Other than that, I know of no "promo release schedule".
As soon as I get my hot hands on it I'll podt some colour.
Aus
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: StAl-Let me get this straight, a smooth jazz station in Seattle plays YANNI? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Is Clear Channel running that station? Yanni's music is mostly for people who like to run around in a field of daisies wearing flowing white clothes and pretending to be in a Massengil's commercial.
BTW-Is there anyway I can get to listen to the Wave on the net? I went to their sight, but the bozos got nothing.
If I offended any Yanni fans by the way, don't blame me, blame Linda Evans.
User: Q | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: So, Auss, does that mean that "promo" or promotional copies are going to be available through normal promotional channels or connections to those who generally have access to such beginning next week?
I guess we've all gotten the Clarion call!
User: life and laundry in a gladstone bag | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: t: he's got satellite, Belgian beer, and a helluva sound system...
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Aus - careful with that info bud... or you'll have some desperate steely fans camped out on your couch, and we... uh, *they* won't leave until 6/10...
What's in the fridge?
Oh btw, "cuddle"? Like what I do with the remote control?
User: ¦ - always breathin' in, never breathin' out | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Yeah, I usually just sleep right through the last 5 min of Aja or On the Dunes!!
At least the last guy was at least able to construct a decent sentence or two
Aussie: You're a lucky man...sent you a couple of e's a while back but they bounced...Anyway, we'll all "get lucky" on 6/10...
I remember a few years back (1997) that 101 has a really nice stretch near Santa Barbara (it's under 7 hrs from San Fran to Santa Barbara) and also further north near San Luis Obispo,,,but a lot is mostly treeless and unpopulated land east of the Coastal Range before crossing the Coastal Mts north of Santa Barbara...then one can always see the glory of Hwy 1 on the coast...the Monterrey coast and south is amazing...count on using ALL of the daylight hours there and then some...
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Tones: Also. The last 3:21? I think we're supposed to "cuddle".
Aus
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Tones: I should be getting my promo next week. And I'm NOT in the eminem clubbe.
Aus
User: SteveeDan | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Oh ... and since we're on the subject of live Dan to see ...
Pretzel Logic will be appearing at 2 outdoor festivals.
Sunday May 25 at 11 AM at the Hermosa Beach Festival
and
Sunday June 8 at 1 PM at the Temecula Balloon & Wine Festival
Southern Californians (and anyone else who is interested in making the drive) are invited.
Come on down !!!
SteveeDan (BL, KM and CBW for PL - ASDR)
User: SteveeDan | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Duncan B. - Thank you so much for the parcel ... I can't wait to check it out. Send my best to Linda and Danny Boy for me.
KMET 94.7 was probably the best AOR radio station in the Southern California market. KLOS, which is still here, ran second, but didn't have the sense of trailblazing that KMET had. Then, boo hoo, KMET went off the air and we inherited "The Wave". Every now and then a great "smooth jazz" tune will come on (meaning, that it really isn't some weak smooth jazz tune) ... but for the most part, it's the "Sunday afternoon by the pool with a spritzer ... and a couple of valium" kind of smooth jazz, which just sucks.
Back in the day, while other stations were playing "Do It Again", and "Reelin' In The Years". KMET would play "Bodhisattva", "The Boston Rag", etc. It was a great time to be alive.
St. Al, as far as the drive from San Francisco to Los Angeles ...
it all depends on what route you take. If going the distance in the quickest manner possible is your goal, then taking the 5 or the 99 is best, but uneventful (not counting California Highway Patrol cars). You can make the trip in under 6 hours (my best was 5 hours 20 minutes ... you could say I hauled cheeks ...). If you take the 101 or the 1 you are treated to some of nature's most awe-inspiring vistas ... but if you take the 1 you will spend up to 12 hours getting through the trip.
I am contemplating such a road trip for the shows in Paso Robles and up near Mendocino. Maybe, if I am fortunate enough, I could take in all three California shows (which would include the Orange Co. Fair in Costa Mesa) ... but why stop there ? Why not add The Gorge? Or the show in Tahoe. It means that the end of July is "my special time" of the year.
Time to start the serious negotiations with the wife ... ROAD TRIP BOYS !!!
SteveeDan
User: Shecky Greene | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Thankyouverymuch! Great crowd! I'll be appearing here all week...
User: t - oh, yeah... | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Mu - you know what's really impressive about those reviews? So far the promos have only been released to members of the Eminem fan club...
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Um... St Al... "West of Hollywood" is 8 minutes 21 secs... what's a guy supposed to do for the last 3:21?
Besides, I might miss SportsCenter...
User: Cynny......... | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message:
Jimmy#.....Of course we'll have drinks...goes without saying. Just gimme a ring, anytime ! Love to Mrs # and the kids !
I'm starting a bidding war between Moll and Dunc for the Trampoline...
I'm having the best time throwing away "stuff" I've saved for "incase we may need it someday".It feels like a cleansing...all the clutter, GONE!
Clas... oops, forgot about Barcelona. No worries..just think, I'll be your neighbor..kinda.
Heres my new hometown...www.wiredwedmore.co.uk. It oozes with quaintness...
back to throwing away STUFF!
User: ¦ - who are these guys? | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message:
Don't ex-Yuppies have computers? Where's the stream on the Wave? Got my soupcans and an extralong string ready...
From Rateyourmusic.com A hat trick of 5 star reviews now - here's the latest
"Review by slinkredfoot:
Rated: 5 stars
The best Steely Dan album since Aja.
Title track and 'Things I Miss The Most' are soulful, mid-tempo Dan a la 'Deacon Blues'. 'Godwhacker' and 'Lunch With Gina' are vintage Katy Lied or Royal Scam Dan with a modern twist. Other tracks are more familiarly late-period Dan, but with a vigor often missing from Two Against Nature. Walter Becker's track, 'Slang Of Ages', is endearingly ramshackle.
Themes: Science fiction, the apocalypse, solitude, impending death. Not bad for an album you can groove to.
Simply sensational. The sound of summer 2003."
User: bad sneakers | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: St Al
You are right on the button - I have just been listening to WOH in the car and played back the sax solo three times - It is Awesome !!!
Chris Potter - take a bow sir - that is great work
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: LP: Not only are your politics right on the money, so is your taste in songs. I've said this many times before but West Of Hollywood reminds me of really good sex. It's the longest track on the disc, and yes men, good sex last longer than 5 minutes...
Starts out slow and rhythmic, builds to a peak, then backs off a bit -- then WHAMO!
Men -- we could all learn a thing or two from Potters SAX work.
StAl
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: W1P: You mean to tell me the Might Met switched format to a SMOOTH JAZZ STATION? No wonder I hate LA...
Did you hear that Bill? A song off the new one is being WORLD PREMIERED on a smooth jazz station.
Don't worry though, the smooth jazz station here in Seattle not only plays Kenny G and Yanni, but lots of old Steely Dan and Stevie Wonder (among others), so don't despair...
Pat
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: Not August 21st - April 21st! In two days!!!
see SD.com
Howard
User: WHAT!!!?? | Month: 3 | Day: 19
Message: St Al.- That blows that we have to wait until August 21st to hear'The Last Mall' I can't believe Steelydan.com told you that!
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: nice gig tonight, we did an adam sandler/jimmy fallon-style easter tune on dave matthew's "crash". some guy recorded it and swore it would end up all over the net...
jimmysharp, i've noted that you're still hangin' and that's a good thing. wormy needs to drop us wit a drive-by, yo grandmasta topsoila'. is blaise still long gone ?...
now, i truely love cbat of course. a true sentimental favorite and all with some masterpieces here and there, but being a [jazz/blues/r&b]head myself, as i know the boys to be, i understand and embrace the natural progression as it has gone. there are still great flashes of angular jazz but with a continuing march back to the blues/r&b. dressed-up I IV V7, but ALL ABOUT POCKET. i'll wait for the album, thanx. it's always worth it...
User: Luckless Pedestrian at home | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: woo-hoo, my parents are here and they gave me a great syracuse t-shirt and a sweatshirt - yeah baby
anyone concerned that the list of concerts may not be for real
i know you've moved on from this conversation, but i listened again to 2vN and IF, a big IF, IF i could listen to only one song on that release, it would be "west of hollywood"
in deep at work, but at least it's a new kind of dog catchin controversy, right
- happy easter if you celebrate such an event
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Damn my spelling was bad on my last post......Not enough coffee firing up the old brain cells...
Fife, yeah sounds good...Let's ask Ed B and Floridave.... they both cook.
User: crawler | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: If anyone from LA has the know-how and can tape this song off the radio and then rip it onto mp3, drop me an email and I'll upload it. And if you need a walk through on how to do it I can tell you that too.
Just send me an email, and remember to remove the DISCARDTHIS.
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Mu - I'm going to have to call Danslut(tm) and have her hold the phone up to the radio...
User: Hey mate! | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Throw another idiot on tha barbie...
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Here St Al - more like it:
http://www.startribune.com/stories/468/3834322.html
What was I thinking putting actual Steely Dan content and commentary on this venue?!! It will never, ever happen again...I promise...
Natch, the "premiere" is THIS weekend - just a week ago I was in earshot...t, W1P, Aja, SteveE, Ducky, angel, JW...shoutouts and full report requested please...maybe I can catch Blues Beach on the shortwave from Austin??...
User: Jim# | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Cynny: One more drink before bassetting off to Rule Britannia? What say?
Warm regards to Wormy and steviedan...
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: What a bummer -- KTWV "The Wave" killed the greatest rock n roll station in history "The Mighty Met" -- a little bit of heaven, 94.7 KMET, tweedle dee. I will listen but I hate supporting the Wave.
User: Yeah, It's me... | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: ...but it's only *8 hours*...!
User: fiferoni | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Hey Moll,
are we still on for the desert isle. I've been looking forward to it for awhile now. I want to lay on a warm sand and dig my toes in. Can i change my selections or is that too late lol. You, me, we could cook quite the feast, drive the guys wild!!!
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Yeah, but then you'll look back after the album has been out for a year or so and wonder what the fuck you were thinking?
The day off is one thing but that drive from the Bay Area to LA really SUCKS...
That is you, right Tones?
StAl
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: I repeat myself when I'm distressed. I repeat myself when I'm distressed. I repeat...
User: Fear and loathing in California... | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: hmmmm... take a day off work, drive 8 hours to hear one song, turn around and come back...
It can be done...
User: Hmmmm... | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: take a day off work, drive 8 hours to hear one song, turn around and come back...
Sounds like a plan!
User: StAL | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Here's some information we just received from the folks at Steelydan.com.
Apparently KTWV 94.7 in LA will be world-premiering "The Last Mall" on Monday April 21st. Supposedly this will occur during Dave Koz's show. It's unknown as to exactly when. No stream is available so this is really only for all the Los Angeles people.
The other thing they stated was "Blues Beach" has been released to a number of AAA format radio stations and we should all be listening keenly for this to happen soon.
Hopefully this means KMTT since they are generally regarded as the father of this format. Goodness knows they play the hell out of Steely Dan.
StAl
User: steelydan.com | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: They don't call them *sneak* previews for nothing.
We understand that KTWV in Los Angeles 94.7 will be world-premiering "The Last Mall" THIS Monday, April 21st, sometime during The Dave Koz show which is 6am - 8am.
Not sure that KTWV has a real-time stream of its broadcast but they do have an "after the fact" on-demand stream option. Do not know at this time if they will make the track available there.
enjoy,
User: fiferoni | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: okay so i'm on holidays and i've met this really nice guy.\, lets me do what i want whoohoo. i'm totally having a great time and he's a really great guy. so i've been blasting show biz kids and he hasn't batted an eyebrow, what a great guy, we're going for sausage and beer. You know him lol
User: Heads up everyone! | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: New wordz on the ODP about world premier of "The Last Mall" on L.A. radio next Monday...
User: She..shouts she..rangles... | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: She's..funny and rangles
i'm dark this week.
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Cyn, Can i have a second option on that trampoline please.
Off to dig out a big box of tissues, English Patient on tv tonight.
Nite All
User: Clas @ Barcelona Internet CafT | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Hi everybody!
Cyn - where the hell are you? We¦ve been stomping this Rambla Avenue now for two days, can¦t find you.
Moll - thanx, I¦ll email them when I get back home.
Everybody - Barcelona is probably the coolest town we¦ve been to. We are so relaxed. And there are people here on the streeets selling watches, I say -Everything goes? They don¦t get ¦cause they don¦t speak mucho English in this part of the world, hell, even John Wayne on TV is speaking Spanish. How about that, Bill?
Be cool and Dandy now,
C
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message:
Anon: My comment wasn't meant to be taken *that* seriously...
But, hypocrisy? Definitely not. Fussiness? Probably. If you'd said more than two words, I might not have come back with such a flippant post.
Does this mean it was you who posted one of those EMG reviews? The reason I said what I did is because there didn't seem to be much on specifics, apart from what has been commented on elsewhere. What about outstanding WB guitar solos? Other guitarists given the solo spot? Noteable riffs or lyrics? Any trumpet or trombone solos? Any acoustic piano?
And perhaps the greatest question yet to be commented on - what about the drumming?!? More fills? More improvisation around a groove, rather than sticking solidly to the groove?
I'd love to know a bit more.
Howard
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: but it's the best we've got...
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Mu: You mean to tell me that with all that time you're puttin' in at work you've got time to come up with something like that?
Although I wish you'd stop using the following: $40 words, metaphors and stream of consciousness stylings. It's only rock and roll.
Your Friend,
StAl
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Duncan, you're very lucky! When I was pregnant, my husband would wave a white hankie before entering the room. I was VERY moody. The ol hormones were havin a heyday...lol lol My Mother told me of an old wives tales about the baby having the same temperment that the woman had while carrying her child; My Brother upon hearing her said, " oh hell that baby will be meaner than a snake then". All my buds (except Drew) have that eye thang goin whenever I mention Steely Dan lmao.....I've been listening to Audioslave the last few days. June 1st they're participating in the Download festival in UK in case you're interested.
Cyn, good luck selling your things. My Elderly Aunt passed away and left her estate to me. It's a big job to sell a house full of possessions. We had everything from antique,ebony elephant tables to 6 inch ceramic poodle salt&pepper shakers with rhinestone eyes. I even found an old opium pipe! I asked my mother why on earth my Auntie would possess such a thing? She was very religious; never drank, never smoked..very prim and proper ( I've never unsterstood why I was her favorite? Oppisites attract I suppose) My Mother said, " She probably thought it was pretty". If Snakie doesn't want the trampoline, I'll buy it!
StevieDan, hmn.....Maybe I'll just stick to the boxed set.
off to my furnace now..
HAPPY EASTER !!!!!!!!!!!! M
User: Cyn | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: Well...Steely Dan names their new album "Everything must Go" and I'm living the "everything must go" life. Coincodence ?....I think not !
For Sale : Entire contents of big victorian home...a lovely collection of 25 years of "stuff". Owner is moving out of the country in June.
sh...I know you want to buy that big trampoline....
and yes...I will have another drink...before I have to face the attic.
User: Dano | Month: 3 | Day: 18
Message: All this talk on albums ...Recently driving back from business along the Motorway i had a choice of any album by Steely Dan , and CBAT Still does the business for me especially as it was 6am in the morning and i was pumped ready for the day ahead.It still does it for me that album...always will.
Have a nice Easter everyone.
Dano.
User: stevie recovery | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: now i know, i MEANT "right". like "make whole" sorta'
yeah, i meant it...
User: steebee | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: oh my GOD, "Write"
it's a curse.
User: stevie's excuse | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: horrors ! i wrote "parkders" instead of "parker's" and that just destroys the flow, but i had to right the post three times ! is it ME, st al ? i'm breakin' down here some nights...
i WILL NOT rewrite this one, dammit !
User: steviedan 'bout to qualify... | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: qualify first by riding right up the middle on iraq (if that's possible) but that said, i would vote for michael moore for president...
over bush ? damn skippy !
moll, i see we attend the same church. cool. i should never assume that anyone wouldn't revel in four versions of "billie's bounce" or "parkder's mood" in a row, much less eleven takes/attempts of "marmaduke". well there you go sister girl, that collection plate's comin' your way...
jjeff, it WAS a sublime moment, nearly as good as stealing it and doing it myself later...
tones, photo IS on the front. i must have worded wackily. kenny vance liners, check...
st al, i'll assume you meant "dismissal" (which WAS shabby) and not "dismal" (which ironically how bandmates described his last beacon performances). now, oteil is a little conservative in this hierarchy (no scat, SHIT) but the lineage of bass players in the band's long journey must figure into his stylistic concessions. compared to when i saw them post-duane in the seventies, i think they sounded better...
watched "drumline" with the kids tonight and i brought back memories of drumlines both high school (when we made up cadences on the spot and the sole (or soul) goal was to get the black people dancing) and college (when the music was more strict corp style, but not enough to stunt the funk). highly recommended. many many stars...
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Mu: Your discussion of EMG reminds me of when I was driving from Sacto to LA for a Springsteen concert in 1984. One of my companions for the drive was a long time Boss nut from New Jersey. I expressed my opinion that the song Johnny 99 was a commentary on our entire socio-economic system and the justice system in particular. My New Jersey friend replied "no, its just a song about a guy named Johnny 99"
User: whatevah | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: I mean: revolving BANDS
User: ¦ | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Gazing at the cover now on my eMac in Qucktime double size. Here's my take which may or may not represent even a smidgeon of what Donald & Walter have in mind.
I think the cover and album represent the New Paradigm. Most folks in the formerly increasing Dilbertian fantasy land that represented the mid to late 90s through 2000 had the notion that the new millenium began in 2000. Those who know the Gregorian calendar and Stanley Kubrick understood that the Gregorian calendar began with the year 1 AD, not 0...therefore, 2001 was the first year of the new millenium...
...and in that year, coincidentally or not, the World and the mathematics of profit and the disengenuous of greed and the faux New Economy model caught up with us, and how...laying waste to structure and dreams that were in the end just a house of cards dispersed as easily as a whisper in a digital dream...However, the human and material wreckage were grim and Real... twisted metal, dust echoes of concrete and humanity chased us down the street and into a New Age, as different as each new age in Tolkien's Middle Earth...and the World again appeared as it indeed is: a tough, but frightengly beautiful place where the wolf is always at the door...
Everything that was new is gone, and that which was old is new again...for better of worse...
Also, a fractal of new paradigm is crystallized by the "new" back to basic approach that Steely Dan 2 used in molding EMG...In other words: Everything Must Go!
digital
drum machines
Wendel
Pro-Tools
studio musicians playing to "clicks"
over and over and over dubbing
revolving plans
hot licks and rhetoric
They ALL MUST GO!!!!
and in the musical universe, the Kenny G's, Yanni's, and Britney Spears' of the planet All Must Go!
So we thus see a return in a sense to the recording paradigm and purpose of Katy Lied in the Dandom annals, where they first entered as a full-fledged non-Steely band, but took a core of musicians in (Becker, Fagen, Omartian, McDonald, Porcaro, Parks, Felder, Dias, and Randall) into the studio with the same strategy as the Miiles Davis albums of the 50s...
...In a large sense, the album represents a way of dealing with not only the New Paradigm, but the fallout of 9/11. After all, D&W had just begun early recording EMG at that time...following the 9/11 tragedy, they tried to go on, but the horror and ghosts, dust, and stench of death forced a retreat back to Hawaii within a few short weeks by October. What followed were recordings that dealt with, at least psychologically the collapse of the old paradigm...and as it fell corruption at Enron, Worldcom, Global Crossing were exposed, the flow of capital at the pork barrel trough shut off while both Republicans and Democrats still continued to lap it up... Whether it was at this time, D&W decided to return to analog or later I do not know, but I wonder if Things I Miss the Most is more a reflection of the New New Thing that is gone gone gone rather than an old lover...a re-expose of corruption at the nexus of the human heart. In 1999, Randy Newman wryly and ironically living the New Economy in his song "The World Isn't Fair" about Karl Marx revisiting Randy N. to find his plan in shambles:
"...If Marx were living today
He'd be rolling around in his grave
And if I had him here in my mansion on the hill
I'd tell him a story that t'would give his old heart a chill
It's something that happened to me
I'd say Karl I recently stumbled
Into a new family
With two little childrend in school
Where all little children should be
I went to the orientation
All the young mommies were there
Karl, you've never seen such a glorious sight
As these beautiful women arrayed for the night
Just like countesses, empresses, moive stars and queens
And they'd come here with men just like me
Froggish men, unpleasant to see
Were you to kiss one Karl
Nary a prince would there be
Oh Karl the world isn't fair
It isn't and never will be
They tried out your plan
It brought misery instead
If you'd seen how they worked it
You'd be glad you were dead
Just like I'm glad that I'm living in the land of the free
Where the rich just get richer
And the poor your don't ever have to see
'It would depress us Karl'
Because we care
That the world isn't fair"
Case in point: while at a conference I see the potential of human scientific and engineering endeavor, a new billion dollar monument to the idols of professional ball, and those practicing free speech against a war that is sorta over, de poor people sleeping without de shade or de light!...nary a panhandler or criminal as on the streets of Baltimore, but the physically handicapped, the mentally challenged and mentally ill...strewn blocks from restorations and fancy hotels...I gave what few piasters I could in these overbudgeted times...while watching women in cell phones shrieking at the tattered walking slowly but too closely like they're barely Alive in America...
So I think of this EMG in anticipation as a reverse Kamakiriad, a clever look at the immediate past and its ramifications told through the unique prism of the Steely subconscious...the warts and despair of America exposed...The inherent evil and folly, once glossed over in a corporate world and post-yuppie Clintonian fantasy enabling reared again, like the nightmarish skyscraper on the cover of the Royal Scam... the themes of Show Biz Kids, Charlie Freak, Any World, etc. revisited now told from their unique perspective of the new Paradigm time, age, and point of view...a thinking man's "The Rising"...as usual with Steely Dan, I expect more from the process and the pictures dealing with "what is left" painted than pedestrian sledgehammer themes...
...to the cover: a shroud or wall of doom surround the mostly back and white photo where only gold/precious stone in color...is the man, decendent of fallen kings wiping a tear with his left hand, rubbing his eyes in exhaustion or in acceptance of his fate? The precious rings and stones in a suitcase is kind of a metaphor for the once powerful Ken Lay no longer using their suitcases for transport of important papers (like plans to count foreign plant aquisitions and employees' stock options and 401ks as "profit"), but now a yardsale in a box...
...But in the end, and I have a feeling especially from the reviews that the album also addresses the opportunity of a new beginning, to set things right...despite despair, some teahouse on the tracks may be waiting for us after all...
...to no longer live in a place where, to borrow from Randy Newman again,
"of all of the people
that I used to know
Most never adjusted
to the great big world
I see them lurking in book stores
working for the public radio
carrying their babies in a sack on their back
moving careful and slow...
...all of these people
are much brighter than I
In any fair system
they would flourish and thrive
But they barely survive
They eke out a living
User: Floridavid | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: St Al, I'm sorry I didn't have that Amazon.com info before. Can I send a check to help defray costs?I did buy a GB T-shirt...any other causes I should be aware of? Let me know brother. David
User: SteveeDan | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: DB - thank you again for doing that for me. I guess I'm a little behind you as the happiest man on the planet.
St. Al - I like Michael Moore because he kicks ass on everyone who needs to have their ass kicked. I wasn't for his Oscar Night speech, but, what the hell, huh? Hooray for Hollywood ...
I rented "Jackass The Movie" over the weekend ... a perfect follow up to the drudgery of doing my income taxes. For those of you who might remember my suggesting that since the people who post here are intelligent, sophisticated people ...
you ALL have to see Jackass. There is something there for everybody, and there is definitely something there that everybody is going to want to skip. (For me it was the papercuts and the urine snow cone ... that's just so wrong ...) But I loved the Wee Man in the giant traffic cone in Tokyo and also the guy who likes to "party" by stripping down to his shoes and socks and a bikini brief and starts boogeying all over the place.
This movie is for everyone who has ever "rubber-necked" at a traffic accident ... you know ... everyone. Some of the pranks pulled by the Jackasses were very imaginative. I swear I nearly passed out laughing at it.
Molly - your welcome, of course, we here hope that you and JJ there have a very nice Easter.
Does anyone know when the Orange County Fair tickets go on sale?
Moses said: Let my people go ...
Steely Dan said: Everything must go
Go Go Go !!!
Stevee-A-Go-Go-Dan
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Linda's fine, no morning sickness yet.
but there's definatly something up with eye's.
everytime i mentind EMG & the ''possible'' UK tour they look upwards.
her hearing's gone ''wonky'' also, yesterday i was playing Faith no mores greatest hits & she asked me ''is this the new one''
She found the norah jones cd i hid in a maria carey cd cover also, strange things are afoot !!!
Me... i'm the happiest man on the planet.
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: But Hoop's -- you're much smarter than me.
But not nearly as handsome.
StAl
User: tones | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: steviedan - that's the one. Except on the vinyl the (absolute worse) photo is on the front, and there's honest-to-goodness liner notes by none other than Kenny Vance himself. How's the cd sound?
Good morning everyone... each day we're a little closer...
t
User: hoops | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Hey EMG order from me! I make a lot less than Pat and don't even own a home or a boat and pay a lot more for my hosting. I'm forever in debt with $450 a month in medical bills plus I'll be laid off soon. I've even offered to split my server with Pat on several occassions.
Now to get the link up...
Sheesh!
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: St. Al: Everyone Must Go!
ygk
User: StAL | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: I'd highly encourage anyone interested in pre-ordering Everything Must Go to do so off the link on my homepage. The occasional free CD I get from Amazon helps defray the costs of this web site...
Stevie: You know, I passed judgment on the dismal of Dickey way back when it happened. The Allman Brothers routinely skip the NW so I haven't given it much thought since then. After viewing the current band member roster I'll probably end op going. I've seen the Allman Brothers both with Warren and with Derek but never together. Oteil Burbridge is a great bassist and the rest of the percussion section is still intact. So you're right. I will go.
StAl
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: I may have my feet squarely planted on the left hand side of the fence, but I still have a sense of humor...
Now that American Aircraft and Military have reorganized Iraqs
landscape, US intelligence has discovered that the they have renamed
some of their towns. These new names include:
1. Wherz-Myroof
2. Mykamel-Izded
3. Oshit-Disisabad
4. Waddi-El-Izgowinon
5. Pleez-Ztopdishit
6. Kizz-Yerass-Goodbi
7. Ikantstan-Disnomore
8. Wha-Tafuk-Wazi-Tinkin
9. Myturbin-Izburnin <-- StAl's personal fav
10. Imma-Dedshmuck
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Howard:
"Gotcha?"
Oh, you mean "got you" which I suppose means "I understand what you are saying."
At least substituting "your" for "you're" is a homophone that translates into a sentence that is grammatically correct. If you are going to write using common speech vernacular, then why does it make you feel smart to correct others who are doing something even less extreme? I don't think either "mistake" is really a mistake, much less something that warrants a correction.
Please explain your hypocrisy.
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message:
My wrong what?
Oh, "you're wrong" - gotcha.
H.
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Howard- Your wrong.
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Clas, Have a wonderful vacation. Zan and Jake both have their own web sites. Their e-addresses are listed there, so I will include them with this post. I'll contact Danorak and give him your address.
Jake's web site is: http://www.jakefleder.com
His address is: jakefleder@jakefleder.com
Zan's web site is: http://www.zangardner.com
her e-address is: ZanniePie@aol.com
StevieDan, thanks for responding to my question about Parker's remastered work. I dunno if I'm a novice? I grew up listening to Jazz. It was my Dad's passion. I just know what I like. Bird and Coltrane top my list of favorites. :)
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: angel - good find on those EMG reviews.
I'm not quite sure what to make of them though. They say very similar things to the first review that appeared (by Steve Baltin of Request magazine, see: www.andymetzger.com):
* sounds similar to their 70s material
* mentions the sax solo on the title track
* "neo-soul" ... "neo-funk"
The rest is fairly predictable and rather vague. I could be wrong, but it sounds like they might just be making it up, based on what they've read elsewhere?
have a good break Easter break everyone!
Howard
User: jjeff-Peepers!! We got peepers!! | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: I guess most people will be starting a long weekend soon. Enjoy it y'all. Talk of the new one coming out is making me giddy, especially when the reviews stick the F word in there( thanks to all who contributed the reviews BTW, Randy and Angel and anyone else I've missed).
Duncan: How's Linda doin'? Morning sickness setting in?
Wormy: Good to see you back albeit briefly. I'm assuming the full custody is complete and things are nice and stable family-wise.
Steviedan: I love concert references like your Ja goatee incident. To have a band react to what you're wearing must be a great thrill. I also join the numbers who skip a couple tracks on 2VN, but not Shame, my favorite.
So when do we start creating national holdays for the other religions? Which religions do we include/start with? Judaism, Islam I assume. Jehovah's Witness, the Amway of religions?
Have a nice weekend, people.
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Aus, thanks for the nice comments but I must warn you (and angel will confirm) that CD Baby is streaming audio only of Disc "Us" and not of Disc "Them" Disc "Us" consists of the more "indie" tracks -- pop, alt-country, Americana, psychobilly, etc. Whereas Disc "Them" consists of the versions more true to the Floyd originals in the hard rock, alternative and progressive vein. Listening to the CD Baby streams will give you only one half of this "split personality" Both More and Le Vallee are available at amazon.com (which actually will give you a price break if you buy them together. Here are some URLs
More -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0780023196/imdb-adbox/102-0419973-3300929
Le Vallee -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005B228/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/102-0419973-3300929
User: Clas at leave... | Month: 3 | Day: 17
Message: Hutch, YGK... Miz Ducky, did I forget anyone?
We're doing a new Guestbook CD, and start to compose and record. We got heavy names on this one:
Roy Scam
Brett
JW Malibu
Bad Sneakers (did you get my email this time?)
W1P?
Stevee Dan
Clas and all of his relatives, um... (no, just kidding)
Gina - you're gonna be in wether you like it or not.
---
Molly - how do I get in contact with the guys you mentioned?
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My email address is on this sites frontpage, under the Steely Knives MP3-files.
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Well, me and Lena are heading for Barcelona in a couple of minutes, and I can't say I like this airplane stuff.
Happy Easter everybody (and Wester),
C, going South...
User: additionally steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: thanx to whoever crafted the masterful chris farley vignette. damn perfect !
tones, that "early years" title MAY be duplicated on a cd of the same title on the german LINE label. probably o.o.p. did the cover feature an old photo of d&w on canvas with cigarette ashes and a pack of camels on the back ? mine's dated 1987.
st al & aja, please don't blow off the allmans over dicky's absence. i love dicky and "blue sky" was missed but other than that... warren can channel dicky at times and the simpatico between he and derek is amazing. i was on the front row at the show and derek spotted my jaco tee. he pointed it out to warren and they broke into "birdland" within the ongoing jam. seamlessly !
moll, you might be referring to the complete dial and savoy recordings boxset. for me these recordings have ALWAYS been church, no matter the mastering tweaks, but there's alot of duplicate takes for the uninitiated bird lover. they may have a set of just the masters coming...
User: deputy steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: CITIZEN'S ARREST ! yeah YOU ! get the finger AWAY from the skip button ! the charges ? the flagrant violation of some amazing music. two MAJOR felonies just for starters: "what a shame..." and "ALMOST GOTHIC"(???). you perps actually SKIP these tracks chronically ? proper and legal usage of the skip button is limited to maybe seventies or eighties hits compilations or perhaps a track or two from the "hooked on polka" series, but NEVER a steely dan track. my GOD people ! for what it's worth, i've listened to 2vn COUNTLESS times packing up at gigs and have come to the conclusion that it has possibly even MORE depth, continuity, and stylistic refinement than ANY release by this organization. both musically AND literally. your whims and opinions are totally secondary to the judgement of the two, from where i'm sitting anyway...
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: The guy's selling watches from suitcases usually keep a little screwdriver & some pliers in the pouch at the back.
There for adjusting the strap lenghts.
Also batteries & other nik / naks are stored there.
It is usual to barter with these watch sellers & over the last few years i've become quite good at it.
The expression on his face is typical with the first reply...IE
watch for sale $30.00, reply $5.00 !!!!
then the fun begins.
off to work now
User: Paige | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: I completely agree with Bill on his assessment of the new EMG cover. This style of cover comes as no surprise to me. It reminds me of the cover to The Royal Scam (IMHO thier best cover to date), However, I find the cover for EMG equally disturbing.
It seems clear to me that the title directly relates to the cover in a way that only Steely Dan can pull off. Indeed, the man seems to be deeply troubled over the possibility that he may have accept an offer he doesn't want to accept, but must in order to eat or buy booze/drugs.
It is not altogether clear what his hand is reaching for. Maybe some change to complete the transaction. Perhaps a weapon.
This man is clearly down on his luck and appears to be at the end of his ability to cope. Is he rubbing his head from anguish...is he contemplating suicide? Is this not unlike our homeless friend sleeping on the bench on The Royal Scam? Nothing is left...everything is gone, including his dreams
Everything Must (literally) Go ...as an act of desperation.
What I have always appreciated about Steely Dan is the mystery of their art. The dark and brooding landscapes of the human condition. The cover to Everything Must Go appears to be no different and may even raise the bar on what is "disturbing" to the eye and that which we turn our head away from.
-Paige
User: Ben Casey | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Where in the hell is that guy who looks like Art Garfunkle? Wherever he is tell him to quit singing!
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Pink: O yeah. Visited CD Baby. Great tracks. Chills on Sally Semrod and Courtney Fairchild. Great stuff bro.
Aus
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Pink one: Pompeii and The Wall I already own. Thanks for the brief colour on the other two. I think I will buy them too now. Any ideas where I could find them easily?
Aus
User: Floridavid | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Well, I just did my Pre-order at Amazon.com (as I did with 2vN...worked nicely) Now to busy myself 'till it's "Treat-in-the-Mailbox" time.
Hey Malcolm, I'd like a copy...put it on my account and send it to Rancho Moore. (You've been there,LOL.) David
User: Bill / Addendum to Post #807 | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Just one more thing...
What is this gentleman reaching into the bag for?
The title of the cd is "Everthing Must Go" as in a closeout sale.
This man seems to be dealing with a certain amount of grief in this
picture. Is he at the end of his rope? Is he reaching into the bag for
a gun? Is he going to end it all?
What are Donald and Walter saying with this picture?
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Aus, the two films are pretty dated and dreary -- but all of the music makes it on the soundtracks. If you've got some extra time to kill, they're interesting as period pieces. As Floyd films go, stick with The Wall and Pompeii. Many people believe that the More Soundtrack is actually better than Obscured by Clouds. Cymbaline and the Nile Song are certainly terrific additions to the Floyd lexicon.
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Randy's EMG cover picture is very interesting.
This picture says quite a bit about the situation of this gentleman no?
He appears to be peddling watches out of a suitcase. First of all, why
would he be selling watches out of a suitcase? Either the watches are hot
(stolen) or this poor guy has been reduced to selling watches out of a
suitcase because he's down on his luck.
My personal feeling is that he's down on his luck and is in the middle
of a very tough negotiation. The hand to the face seems to indicate grief.
As if he's just been made an offer that isn't very good but considering
the circumstances he may be forced to take.
What is the significance of the two yellow-faced watches? Do these two
watches indicate the merchandise in question? Are these his best watches?
Will he be forced to accept the offer? I'm not sure what the answer is
but the picture itself seems to indicate something more than a simple
merchant selling watches.
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Pink one: Have you ever had ocassion to see the films "More" and "The Valley"? I have for many years now yearned to see them but was always too busy or lazy to go out and actually find them. If you have seen them, can you provide brief colour commentary? Are they worth it? Is all of the music that appears on Floyd's two respective works (Obscured by Clouds and More)also present on the films?
I remember buying a movie poster of Le Valee many years ago...one of the cooler rock memorabilia in my collection.
Aus
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Aus, one, two, free, four, the memories of a man in his old age are the deeds of a man in his prime! Childhood's End off OBC is wonderful. And Keith Richards' guitar tech (and co-author of Thief in the Night off Bridges to Babylon) Pierre de Beauport and his wife Becca have recorded an incredible version of Childhood's End for, you guessed it, A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/afairforgery (or click on My Homepage) Becca is a wiz on the vocals (think a white English Macy Gray), Hammond B3 and mini Moog -- the most Floydian female track you've ever heard
User: | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Is it possible to physically o.d. from anticipation?
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Found these reviews, while trolling the web. Click on the link above, or copy.
http://rateyourmusic.com/view_album_details/album_id_is_39594
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Fuzzy warble played today on pitible portable picnic player:
Pink Floyd: Obscured By Clouds
Traque one: Obscured by Clouds
Traque two: When You're In
Traque three: Burning Bridges
Traque four: The Gold it's in the...
Traque five: Wots...uh the deal
Traque six: Mudmen
Traque seven: Childhood's End
Traque eight: Free Four
Traque nine: Stay
Traque ten: Absolutely Curtains
Aus
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Cue Dustin Hoffman voice "I'm an excellent driver" Of course, I'd be ejecting the Dan and forcing the two of them to listen to Floyd "for the want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died"
User: Luckless Pedestrian at home | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: the new cover is very pretzel-logic-esque; taking a familiar urban scene and making it a significant snapshot in time
and i still giggle at the lyrics to cousin dupree, it's a great image, especially during this yahoo times of dubya
i love razor boy too for its lyrics
in terms of skipping tunes, i just put on the disc and let it rip - i mean that's the point, there are no b-sides to a steely dan release
woops, gotta open a can of dinner for the kids (i still miss my AGA, menu plans have gone by the wayside)
User: StAL | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Mark -- no word on ticket sale dates for the Gorge.
StAl
User: my new best friend... | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: ...is at the throttle, more or less...
User: Android Wearhouse Attendant | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Anybody hear when tix go on sale for Gorge show?
Am I invisible?
User: and upon further review... | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: That icy vibe totally fits Negative Girl lyrically...
"...the heat of her cold white flame..."
User: sh | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
angel...lol but if you guys are in the backseat of Tones' car - who's driving? yikes!
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Tones: I'll share a cup of tea with you. :-)
That settles it, Tones and I will be in the back seat of the car singing Razor Boy and you can sing My Old School. Now you have to come out here....lol
Bill: I agree.
User: tones | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: snakie - let's make a deal on our way to the beach: I'll let you sing along to My Old School if you let me sing along to Razor Boy... lol..
And jeez... I love "Almost Gothic" too... sounds to me the most like "classic" Steely Dan of everything on 2vsN. Maybe we can work out a trade on that too...
My only problem with "Negative Girl" is that it's the only track the Two don't play on the album, so it leaves me feeling a bit cold in the Gaucho kind-of-way St. Al was talking about. But other than that I think it's great.
Don't worry snakie... I still luv ya...
I remember when I first got the Dan albums (way back when...) there were tracks that I used to skip. For instance, I didn't play "Pearl of the Quarter" (too "country for me at the time") and "King of the World" for *years*, or "Any World..." and "Throw Back...", or even the entire second side of Royal Scam if you can believe it. Then one day I turned over Royal Scam and was blown away! (One of the benefits was that that side of the album wasn't as worn out as the first and still sounded new...) Then I went back through all the songs I had been skipping and found out I liked every one of them! It was like getting a whole new Steely Dan album... lol...
tea anyone?
t
User: Is it so fucking hard to spell... | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: ...THEIR!?
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Steveedan: Posted Package.
Grilling burgers on the back lawn...
User: C @ W | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Pat - King of the World? Well, I must say you're taking the best plums.
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Aja: check your mail.......
Anyone who is interested in purchasing
Core NYC: "Tryin' to Sort It All Out"
can write me at:
contact@corenyc.com
thanx
ygk
User: sh | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
Pat -
hahahahahahah!
anyhoo...i was looking at your tour date info and they don't call it Pine Knob anymore. for the past couple of years it's DTE Energy Music Theatre.
just in case you wanted to be accurate. but if you don't that's ok too.
i know ya still luv me - i just know it! ;-)
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Pat,
Michael Franks is what he is and continues to be that. While his music
continues to become more sophisticated as time goes by his formula
remains the same. His "Abandoned Garden" cd is one of the finest cd's
I've heard to date. Check out "Fools Errand" and "This Must Be Paradise",
the man is a master songwriter. Check out "Practice Makes Perfect" and
"Soulmate" from his "Dragonfly Summer" cd, I've played those songs over
and over and haven't gotten tired of them.
As far as Steely Dan goes, Steely Dan has a formula too and the formula
includes a certain amount of rock influence. For some reason they seem
to have dropped this ingredient from thier later music. This is an
obvious mistake in my opinion. Songs like "Don't Take Me Alive", "FM",
and "Babylon Sister" have a certain edge to them that is distinctly
Steely Dan. I'm not saying that every SD song should contain this edge
but certainly a few songs per cd should.
Walter may have made a statement with his solo cd "11 Tracks Of Whack"
because quite a few of the songs have an obvious rock ingredient to them.
I'm not saying that the rock side of the equation should be the main
ingredient, but it should be there in order for the cd to have that
well-rounded feel we've been accustomed to hearing from Steely Dan.
User: sh | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
i knew i was in trouble :-s
LOL! Angel...St Al....c'mon - don't let that damn Razor Boy ruin our friendships
wait til Tones gets here - i'm probably REALLY gonna hear it!
sh
Ahhh huh, No hesitation, no tears and no hearts breakin', no remorse.
User: Clas, with tickets in hand... | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Aja - can't you buy it in a CD-store? The Core?
Molly - so, Danorak, and Jake Fledder, how do I reach them?
Bad Sneakers - I emailed your hotmail. You didn't get it? Strange. I'll try again.
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Left over from my last post....Obviously, Gina, I meant they.
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Howard: I swear, you are channeling my thoughts this morning. I showed the alledged cover to my hubby and said, the same things about the 3 letters that are a different color and the fact that Steely is Yellow and Dan is Blue. Is it a nod to the 2 books? Then I told him about Green Book. Then I came here....
Razor Boy forever! Snakehips, eat my dust....
Gina: The didn't deserve to have you on their team. Nuff said.
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: THAT'S IT Snaky! You and I can no longer be friends.
If "Green book" has anything to do with the two Internet forums you'll NEVER get W&D to admit it. Though I've not heard the song I'd be skeptical as hell. I mean, lets get real...
WARNING! LIBERAL MUSINGS BELOW. SKIP IF YOU DON'T LIKE.
So Michael Moore gave his first public speech since the Oscar win a few weeks ago here in little 'ol Shoreline Washington. I got tickets for this thing way back in August and thought for sure he was going to cancel since his cache' went up exponentially since he "hijacked" the Oscars. The word was for every person sitting in the audience (about 800) with a ticket, they turned away 10 requests.
We arrive about 15 minutes before the speech was to begin. For 2 weeks prior to this event the local right-winged talk radio station here in town has been rallying their troops to do everything they possibly could to disrupt this speech. They expected 100's of protesters. I figured it was going to be interesting running the gauntlet as I arrived. Apparently all that "talk" on talk radio was just that. Maybe there were 20 people outside holding signs that said "God Bless America" and "Support Our President, Support Our Troops."
Friggin sheep...
So MM hits the stage to riotous applause. In fact, the standing ovation was greater for him than most concerts acts I've seen. Took about 5 minutes to get everyone to shut up and sit down. He started off by stating he wanted to first finish the speech that was cut off at the Oscars. After that he passed his Oscar around the audience for everyone to see. Never made it to me though. Anyway, for the next 90 minutes he proceeded to lambaste The Bush Administration, The fictitious election of our current "President", The "War" on Terrorism, Republicans, Democrats, The System, etc. Typical stuff for him and most of which I've heard from him before. I don't always agree with his stance, but what I do like is the way he gets your attention on these matters with humor while maintaining the seriousness of the issue itself.
One thing he did talk about is the fact that the Democrats have already written off the 2004 election. He says top party officials have confided in him that they are concentrating on 2008. They don't want to put their best candidate forward, only to have him loose to the sheep that will inevitably vote for Bush this time around.
Nice convenient war
His new movie is in production and will be called "Fahrenheit 911 -- The Temperature At Which Freedom Burns."
Funniest quip by Moore: Someone suggested "Michael Moore 2004." After a bit of bantering with the audience back and forth he finally said -- "I'm not running for ANYTHING. I mean, let's get real -- could you see "this" in the situation room (implying his disheveled appearance, ball cap, etc)."
StAl
User: sh | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
i can see i'm in big trouble here -
i skip Razor Boy *every* time! just don't like it
and there's no way to compare Aja to Almost Gothic - i often skip AG and Negative Girl too...but never What a Shame or Janie or Gaslighting Abbie
and how can one listen to Royal Scam without listening to Fez, Sign in Stranger and Haitian Divorce (listened to HD twice on the way into work today!)
Cousin Dupree is creepy *skeevy* - but i still listen - it's just a catchy little tune...lol
and i still love My Old School...maybe cause i just love singing along with "i was smokin' with the boys upstairs..."
ah....diversity - makes life interesting doesn't it?
:-)
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
Randy: Very funny.
It should come as no surprise to anyone that I'd prefer the more rock oriented CBAT to Gaucho. Considering the fact that I also thoroughly enjoy bands like Tool, Megadeth, Rage, Soundgarden and Black Sabbath, is it really that surprising? Like W1P it depends on my mood. Gaucho is certainly a much more cohesive disc than Countdown and I won't disagree it's of higher quality. CBAT is a collection of songs whereas Gaucho is a complete piece of work. But I don't listen to music because it's supposed to be good. For me music is every bit about the feeling you get while listening. Gaucho leaves me feeling colder than CBAT.
Razor Boy is the best cut on Countdown, save, maybe, King Of The World.
See, just goes to show ya the diversity of opinion. And no Bill there is no right answer here (except, of course, mine)...
Later today I'll post a review of the Michael Moore engagement last night. It's was quite humorous.
StAl
User: G. | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Yep Howard ... sure looks like the real deal.
Blaise and i got into one of our cyberdiscussions, like him being the one finding out about the titles and explaining why he knew it was the real thing and me questioning it and stating it was a hoax. Like most of the Danfanworld folks feel hesitant although excited each time a gossip or fact turned up :-)
Looks like i gotto take the Canuck's word for truth, next time around LOL
But obvious ofcourse why i felt hesitant to accept these as the titles in the first place LOL
If not a hoax, it's still a joke!!!
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
Andy Metzger noted (at his site) that the cover art image was uploaded to Amazon in it's images area, but wasn't yet showing up next to the details for the pre-order of EMG.
The pic *is* now showing up with the album details:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000936MD/qid=1050494071/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3/102-1923761-1040146
looks like it is the real deal.
Howard
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
Interesting link from Randy with the possible cover shot of EMG.
I noticed that the text colour (pale blue with "h", "s" and "o" in yellow) matches what's at www.steelydan.com. (Also "steely" is in yellow and "dan" in blue, and a couple of the watches are also picked out in yellow. What all this means is anyone's guess - it probably amounts to nothing. Surely no connection with the predominant colours of two certain SD guestbooks? What about the song title "Green Book"?)
And, as others have mentioned, the photo style is reminiscent of recent shots of D+W.
Either someone has gone to a great deal of trouble to make up a convincing fake of the cover or (more likely), it's the real deal.
Howard
User: Gina | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message: Hm... as in my comment regarding the EMG newsflashes :-)
SD magic never seems to fail me. Went for a job to provide some security in the freelance writing biz. They had me return for a second interview but handled me in the same "lame" way they did the first time around. It was a position for 16 hours, answering phones in a service-center for a housing corporation. I like those things. Working in a team, some gals, executing strict and simple orders and handling calls and all that. I don't feel i'm above that line of work, why should i? Was introduced to those routines in the telecommunication biz a few years back, the corporate world, mmmm ..
They kept questioning whether that 16hour job would satisfy me and in a blink of an eye i figured ... what does it matter, why can't one do all kinds of stuff in periods of a lifetime or change careers or jobs ... So when i left i knew i didn't get it (i did, in a way) but also knew they had a strange and insufficient way of handling people who came in for a job ...
They picked the other girl and i couldn't care less about the job really, but like the first interview it kinda blew me away some. Learned a lesson maybe, why not put effort and energy into trying to stick to the things i like to do, perhaps stoop to the level of joining the network clubs around here where people from media and communication and advertising have beers and scotch along with doing business and blablabla ... not my thing really to obtain work ... so no no no, no option i guess. what then?
wait for the flow? like weaving the patterns of magic, bonne chance?
be patient and surf the waves? that's how i went to apply for that 16hour job as well ... they called me. i didn't call them. so it was taken as an opportunity i had to check out. so it was a bad wave. showing me that being open-minded doesn't always come across understanding. the contrary, given this experience. really threw me out of a loop, picking up the vibes and being forced to take a stand against their inability to grasp what should be sooo common. don't judge people by their lifestyles, education, experience, whatsoever. don't think having a degree automatically makes one a better person, or smarter or intelligent. intelligence isn't about being educated at school. life educates as well. hard work educates. any work, any job for that matter.
after the second interview i was still thinking about these matters, while in a supermarket. was a bit on the blue side when the muzak in the store suddenly turned into music again. although some may think it did sink to muzak level :-)
Rikki Don't Lose That Number, there they were ... my cue to forget about certain ways in this so called civilized society we live in and kick it and follow the not-always-so-logical-explainable-flows i've been following up to now.
They brought me here, across the ocean, didn't they?
Meeting other and similar minds, kindred souls, spirits, people.
In writing, reading, music.
What else is there anyway :-)
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 16
Message:
Like Randy, I'm pretty surprised to hear St Al say he puts Gaucho at the bottom of the list of SD albums. Do you really rate CBAT better? There are some great tracks on CBAT, but as an album I would say it's their weakest effort and, for me anyway, a long way from Gaucho in terms of quality. It's always hard (and perhaps a waste of time?) to rank the albums or choose most/least favourites, but I agree that there is a general trend in their albums - the later the better. Royal Scam, Aja and Katy Lied are (for me at least) superior works to CBAT, Countdown and Pretzel.
I guess the difficulty comes in the post-Aja period, in figuring out how Gaucho and 2VN relate to the previous albums. I would rate both better than the "early albums" (CBAT-Pretzel) and on a par with (if perhaps not *quite* as good as) Scam/Katy/Aja.
Because it's still fresh, 2VN gives me almost the biggest SD listening pleasure at the moment though (with perhaps the exception of Aja; old habits die hard).
... and not wanting to go too far into "I can't believe you don't think my favourite SD tracks is as good as I think it is" territory, I will add:
I agree absolutely with angel - how can Randy think that Razor Boy is a "lesser track"?!? I mean WHAT THE HELL WAS HE THINKING WHEN HE DARED TO EVEN WRITE THOSE WORDS ON THIS GB AND SUGGEST... (etc etc)
Howard
User: Mock Turtle | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Re: Grammy Winners
Man, what a pathetic list. Kinda makes you wonder why we wanted the Dan to join this list of lukewarm bullshit. Now I can see why the Grammys were considered edgy for nominating Eminem and Radiohead. So much great new music out there, and they're giving awards to washed-up 70's (and earlier, in the case of Unforgettable) acts way past their heyday (SD notwithstanding). Maybe Eminem will win an award once he becomes irrelevant in 30 years.
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Randy: Too cool on the cover and the e-mail review. Almost makes up for the "I don't skip" comment. :-)
Tones: That's because the Bee Gees are all that anyone remembers from the Disco era....
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Randy: Cool as shit cover. Thanks for sharing.
St. Al: Good talk pal.
Aus
User: Randy | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message:
Steely-folk,
I was saving this for a later date, as the site does not yet have a fraction of my works up yet, but if you go to the following address you can see the alleged cover for the new Steely Dan album, 'Everything Must Go':
http://hometown.aol.com/nightfly62/PAGETWO.html
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: angel - I'm with you!!! Dan songs I *can't* live without (off the top of my head):
Razor Boy
Fire in the Hole
Your Gold Teeth II
Aja
Black Cow
Haitian Divorce
Bad Sneakers
Only a Fool Would Say That
Daddy Don't Live in that NYC No More
Everyone's Gone to the Movies
Brooklyn
.and pretty much all the rest... lol...
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Jimbo - As much as I hate the Grams, I have to agree they're on somewhat of a roll. Three years before 2vsN won Dylan won for Time Out of Mind, and though Lauryn Hill and Santana's albums were commercial I thought they were pretty good quality, though in Santana's case not his best.
Check out this list:
2003 - Come Away with Me ~ Norah Jones
2002 - O Brother, Where Art Thou? [SOUNDTRACK]~ Various Artists
2001 - Two Against Nature ~ Steely Dan
2000 - Supernatural ~ Santana
1999 - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill ~ Lauryn Hill
1998 - Time Out of Mind ~ Bob Dylan
1997 - Falling into You ~ Celine Dion
1996 - Jagged Little Pill ~ Alanis Morissette
1995 - Mtv Unplugged [LIVE] ~ Tony Bennett
1994 - The Bodyguard: Original Soundtrack Album ~ Whitney Houston
1993 - Unplugged [LIVE] ~ Eric Clapton
1992 - Unforgettable: With Love ~ Natalie Cole
1991 - Back on the Block ~ Quincy Jones
1990 - Nick of Time ~ Bonnie Raitt
1989 - Faith ~ George Michael
1988 - Joshua Tree ~ U2
1987 - Graceland ~ Paul Simon
1986 - No Jacket Required ~ Phil Collins
1985 - Can't Slow Down ~ Lionel Richie
1984 - Thriller ~ Michael Jackson
1983 - Toto IV ~ Toto
1982 - Milk and Honey ~ John Lennon/Yoko Ono
1981- Christopher Cross ~ Christopher Cross
1980 - 52nd Street ~ Billy Joel
1979 - Saturday Night Fever: The Original Movie Sound Track ~ Bee Gees
Between Bonnie Raitt and Dylan it looks like they were just giving out Grammys based on total album sales, which might have been the case for Lauren Hill and Santana too. I'll admit that as good as it is, John and Yoko's was probably a sympathy vote; Clapton's too. Quincy's was probably a political vote, seeing how he's worked with just about everybody in the biz.
But "Unforgettable"? Forget it! "Faith"? Good, but I don't believe it's *that* good! Celine? "No Jacket Required"? No substance required either! "Can't Slow Down"? Not when your irate wife's chasing you around the neighborhood...!
And another thing: why is Saturday Night Fever considered a Bee Gee's album when they only performed or wrote half the songs on the album? Shouldn't it be considered various artists?
Another conspiracy to consider...
tzr
User: W1P | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: It's funny, sometimes I feel like Randy Nightfly (everything started getting better with Royal Scam) and sometimes I feel like Royal Scam is the best record followed by Countdown and Pretzel because these 3 are the more "rock" oriented records. In a comment that drew lots of distain here a number of months back, I expressed my opinion that East St. Louis is my least favorite track -- but that would make sense given that I come at The Dan from the rock direction. That's not to say that I dislike Aja or Gaucho or TvN in the least -- its just that my preferences run more to Royal Scam etc. Just picked up Fleetwood Mac tix for 7/12 @ Staples -- pricey as all hell. W1P?
User: Randy | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message:
This may or may not have been posted here already, but regardless, here's a review from someone else (name and e-mail withheld) who has allegedly already heard 'Everything Must Go':
"Steely Dan / Everything Must Go: ****1/2
This is something else - proof that occasionally, you can go back to the future and create something timeless. I liked 'Two Against Nature,' but thought it was a bit precise, efficient, soulless. But 'Everything Must Go' is better, and for anybody who remembers the Dan first time round, the title track is a gorgeous epiphany of cool, with a stunning, break-you-heart sax solo at the end. Actually, there's a bit of everything here - pithy, witty lyrics, slabs of neo-funk, twists and turns and tempo changes from pop to jazz, rock and blues. If this isn't huge in the summer, and songs like "The Last Mall", the title track and "Lunch With Gina" aren't all over the airwaves, then Becker and Fagen are entitled to feel aggrieved. Probably, by this time next month, it will be worth five stars. Check it out. Hell no, just buy it in June."
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: Aja.........................still not working | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: The great Steely Dan discussions are going on the GB, while someone is making personal attacks under different names on the Blue Book-LOL!!!!
The lunatics have definitely taken over the asylum.
Hi lp-any chance of you going to the Jones Beach show? I'm scheduling my vacation (24 days this year, plus 17 paid holidays-live better, work union) and I've requested time off around that weekend in case I decide to make a spontaneous flight......
Aja
User: Randy | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message:
"Sorry / Angel / I must take / what I see..."
(Incidentally I never "skip" anything.)
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Randy states:
"Slightly lesser tracks like Razor Boy..."
WHAT!!!!!!!!! A song to die for! I live for songs like these.
I will go with you for Pearl, though. :-)
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Of every single Steely Dan song, demos included, the only tracks I'm tempted to skip are My Old School, and Cousin Dupree. MOS not because I don't like it, but because I've heard it more than just about any other Dan song with the possible exception of Reeling, and it feels like, well..., going back to my old school. Dupree I like, but the story is just so well told that it kinda creeps me out. But the tune, while seeming a bit simplistic, kinda gets under your skin exactly like an ingratiating relative you hate to love.
So like I said, I'm usually tempted to skip 'em, but most of the time I just ride them out and end up enjoying them anyway...
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: 2VN may not be a masterpiece as a lot of us may think, but it's still
a pleasure to listen to after three years. West of Hollywood, I always felt, was the top notch track on the cut. The lyrics were very reflective
and dark. I especially enjoyed the instrumental breaks because this song provided an opportunity for anyone to play it on various occasions. Mine would be if it was nice and sunny out, as it was today, to go out for a drive. I also thought it should be used as background music for tv broadcasts of golf tournaments.
With EMG, I hope it does get nominated for grammys again, just to piss off
the ubermusic critics, the corporate bigwigs, soulless country boys, and
of course, Kurt Loder. Of course, we'll have to hear it first. After all, in the last few years, the Album of the Year grammys go to high quality, non-commercial sounds like 2001 for 2VN, 2002 for Oh Brother!,
and 2003, (sorry Clas, my man. I'm sure you'll forgive me, quickly, for this.) Norah Jones.
BTW: You might want to check out the site-
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1471156/20030409/index.jhtml?headlines=true
Something to do with Clear Channel giving up pay for play. Not a major step, but it's a start.
User: Moments that just melt in your mind... | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Thinking about the first time I put on Aja... I'll never forget hearing "Black Cow" for the first time... and the first time I heard "Youuu were high, it was a cry-ing disgrace... they saw your faace..", and then the first chorus with that little triplet in the bass line...
Haven't been the same since...
User: Randy | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message:
St. Al recently had the audacity to say the following:
"If I had to rank the discs, I'd have to say 'Gaucho' is my least favorite of all the SD discs."
GOOD CHRIST ST. AL!! 'GAUCHO' THE LEAST FAVORITE?? HAVE YOU NO CONCEPT OF GREATNESS AND MUSICAL SUPREMACY?? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?! HOW CAN THIS BE! WHAT OF THE COOL SUBVERSIVENESS OF "BABYLON SISTERS," "HEY NINETEEN," AND "MY RIVAL"? WHAT OF THE BRILLIANT MUSICIANSHIP AND LYRICAL INVENTION?? HOLY CHRIST IN HELL! FUCK ME!!
Sorry--now then... Really? I don't agree there, but I can sorta dig it; I usually write off the first one ('Can't Buy A Thrill' [1972]) save for a few tracks; For me the first is the weakest, followed by their second album ('Countdown to Ecstasy' [1973]). I always felt that from 'Katy Lied' (1975) on, they could do no wrong. There are slightly lesser tracks on 'Countdown To Ecstasy' like "Razor Boy" and "Pearl of the Quarter," as well as on 'Pretzel Logic' (1974), but even then I enjoy all of them, and many people list the above-referenced songs as favorites (to each his own).
For me, each record was a little better than the last, although I can hardly pick a favorite; some days it's 'The Royal Scam' (1976), other times it's 'Gaucho' (1980) or 'Aja' (1977).
As for 'Two Against Nature' (2000), if pressed, I wouldn't put it over 'Royal Scam,' 'Aja,' or 'Gaucho,' but I don't really compare or approach it that way; I see 'Two Against Nature' as sort of a new start, even though clearly it's a direct outgrowth of the duo's approach which began with 'Aja' and 'Gaucho' and continued through 'Kamakiriad' (1993).
You'll be hard pressed to find any other band (in rock) who's work is as consistent and solid as that of Steely Dan's on 'Two Against Nature,' at least in this day and age. "Not as much of a classic as 'Aja'" one might say? Who else is making music that even APPROACHES their "classic" work? No one. The other factor to keep in mind is how difficult it is to continually raise the proverbial bar for oneself artistically and continue to do so over the course of twenty to twenty-five years; hardly an easy feat.
Someone made the astute observation that the Dan's music is representative of the time it came out of, as most art is; while much music and art transcends its time, it still grew out of and had its incubation period in any given period of the past. Many sociologists have been studying this issue of cultural stagnation these last few years; Steely Dan did a credible job of transcending that stagnation (at least at my house).
"Everything must go..."
- Steely Dan, 'Everything Must Go'
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: Aja.............slow@work | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: No Dickey Betts? Forget it, then, though I anticipate being at Street Scene again this year, again against my will (a friend always picks it for her birthday outing). Geez, how can anyone skip Almost Gothic? It's the "Aja" of TvN. Cousin Dupree, however, is always a skip.
Where are my manners? Welcome back, steviedan and wormy!
Back to surfing the 'net. I love spring break.
Aja
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Aja: Sure, the Greg Allman Band, er, I mean the Allman Brothers are touring this Summer in support of Hittin' The Note -- their new album.
I refuse to see them play without Dickey Betts. Although I hear Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks are taking a break from their bands to tour (Government Mule and Derek Trucks Band respectively)
Playing your "Street Scene" in September.
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=calendar&file=showCalendarMonth&type=listevents&search=upcoming&orderby=date
Ask and ye shall receive...
User: db | Month: 3 | Day: 15
Message: Pat your mad...
shame is the best track on the lp !!!
'go back to school''
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: er mister c, yeah right "they've been doing that". yeah, not the point my friend. rather, WHO was also (along with jt) citing sd as an influence on harmony recently in print. i just find it interesting that i keep reading interviews with great musicians that cite sd in that regard. not surprised of course...
tones, i think the "catalyst" package is the overall best. ole will tell you, i probably have 'em all, mainly for the covers of course, some of which are sublimely laughably mis-informative and/or cheesy. worth every penny, of which i'm sure d & w get like zip. sorry dudes...
btw, luv to everyone who has welcomed me back...
User: mu-ster | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Aja - arcane enough message Sat?...serves me right, I almost broke my foot chatting with the ladies of Royal Thai pressing for a table before 10 pm... Convention superb. Shu Chien of UCSD is God...and all this time I thought it was Walter...around for b'fast still in the Bristol (wouldn't eat there) game?, then to see Jonathan Stamler and a tweak or two...
User: Aussie | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Beemer: Please cheque your electronic mail. Pumped that you're coming to New York City and even more excited to host your stay. Guranteed, it won't be a one night stand, but instead, a real occasion.
Aus
User: Lol... | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Oh... it's a woman?
Nevermind...
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Drea de Matteo? I hope Donald sat next to her. Lucky dog;)
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: St. Al. - looks like they've mistaken you for that guy on the Soprano's...
User: Random Note: | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: From Rolling Stone Iss. 921, May 1, 2003 -
On the Scene:
"Steely Dan's Donald Fagen, Phish's Mike Gordon, and "Soprano" Drea de Matteo at New York's Beacon Theater to see one of the Allman Brother's thirteen shows."
User: Jimbo | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Does this mean Carolyn Leonhart, Vicky Cave and Cynthia Calhoun won't be touring this year? If that's the case, BUMMMMMMMMMERRRRRRR!
User: Mark the Android | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: yes. That's why I wondered if anyone knew when they actually went on sale. Guess I can always call Ticket Master. Thats always a thrill........
User: crawler | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Has anyone noticed that Steelydan.com posted ticket links for every show, but none of them work?
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Jon: You're not implying what I think you're implying are you?
Just what is a Planotone?
http://www.planotones.com/pl2a.htm
StAl
User: jon | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Say did anyone notice that Kenny Vance rolls into Connecticut a little ahead of SD?
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: I have a question for the masses: does The Android Warehouse compilation have better sound quality than the Catalyst? They have identical songs list except the Catalyst, which I have, also has the alternate version of Sun Mtn... I be willing to trade up for better sound.
'preciate any feedback
t
User: Moll | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Clas, Have you invited Zan Garder, our friend who goes by Danorak, and Jake Fledder to be on your Compilation? All are extremely talented and would make a valuable contribution to your project.BTW, they never acknowledged my messages either.. I just act as if they don't exist now, it makes us all happier...Lmao ;)
Stevee, thanks for message. Say hello to your Mrs and kiss the little one for me.
User: Mark | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: hello. Just discovered the new tour to come to the Gorge. Yes ! Anybody know when the tix go on sale?
Mark the Android Wearhouse Attendant
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: AUSSIE PHONE HOME!
AUSSIE PHONE HOME!
Planning a trip to NYC in November and need to speak with you. Email address in field above...
StAl
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Pat,
Be careful what you wish for. I understand Tammy Faye Baker is primed for
a run at the presidency in 2004.
And yes, I do want to see Jackass The Movie.
If these people are going to rip off my life story I expect to recieve
some royalites at least.
;)
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: The real problem revealed!
Does anyone else see the problem here? Let's look as how Bill describes himself.
>I am the maverick.
>I am the Marlboro Man.
>I am the man on the mountain stream my friend
Again, I go back to a statement I made a long time ago. We need a Woman in a position of power in this country. Testosterone IS the problem causing almost every conflict known since the beginning of time.
StAl
PS. Bill -- have you seen Jackass The Movie yet? Dude, it's damn funny.
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Howard,
Okay so maybe you didn't hurl any insults. Sorry about including you
with Tones and Bad Sneakers in that post (See, even I can admit a mistake
once in a while).
BUT...
Your viewpoints are not of the "differing" variety on the old banyantrees
guestbook. Your viewpoints are the same assemblyline, cookie-cutter
viewpoints that 90 percent of the other posters here have. I am the one
with the differing viewpoint on a few subjects. I am the maverick.
I am the Marlboro Man. I am the man on the mountain stream my friend.
I am the lone voice in the wilderness of Dandom calling out to those
who still remember what Steely Dan is and is supposed to be.
Me baby, me.
(Although I have to hand it to you Howard, it took a while for you to
snap. It was much easier with Pat and Q. I must be slipping.)
:)
User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: .....................must..............not....................respond......................to.................assholes...........................
----------breathein-----------
----------breatehout-------------
ygk
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message: Oooh -- very excited about Carlock on drums this Summer. Will Tom Barney still be holding everything together, or will Walter take up bass duties? Would seem odd to see them without Barney, though I'd love to hear Walter's bass playing live.
Clas: Yes, absolutely.
Howard: My take on why a debate degenerates into insults indicates the insulting party is loosing said debate. No one likes loosing.
StAl
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message:
As already reported elsewhere, there's a new press release up on SD.com:
http://www.steelydan.com/emgpress2.html
Tour personnel include Keith Carlock on drums (yes!) and Herington on guitar.
Howard
User: Howard | Month: 3 | Day: 14
Message:
Those EMG comments sound interesting. Really looking forward to this one - not long now!
St. Al - I know, if everyone sticks to their own opinions on these discussions, I too start to wonder if there's a point in trying to have a discussion.
What gets me is the lack of thought and hypocrisy that's evident in some of the posts. After trying to actively engage certain people in the discussion, asking them to explain their points in more detail, I'm accused of trying to *prevent* people from expressing their views!
After being on the receiving end of some choice insults ("Your spirit is dark and loathsome and selfish. DO NOT EVER REPRODUCE"), I am then accused by the same person of calling him "all sorts of vile names". Sadly, there has been far too much petty squabbling, name-calling and stupid insult-throwing on this GB for many years - but this is something I have never taken part in, as the accuser well knows.
It's a shame that some people aren't able to engage in debate, and to consider opposing points of view without considering it a challenge to their ego, but that's the way it seems with some. Thank God there are still *some* people here who are not threatened by differeing views, and can actually sustain a sensible debate without resorting to personal abuse.
Howard
User: Just a last question: | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Is it possible to drink the water in Barcelona?
/C
User: And yes... | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Look out for the new album "Swedish Musicology", with Steadysession and friends.
They are doing a song with a sample from Gina "Symphony's Blues", very cool.
www.steadysession.com
/C
User: Clas | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Steviedan - stick unusual chords in standard progressions, yeah, that's what they have been doing.
Bad Sneakers - did you get my mail?
StAl - I am going away for a week or so. When I get back I'm going to put up a Sign in Stranger Guestbook CD-page.
Could you link that one to this page?
This far we have:
Gina
Brett
Roy Scam
Clas
Jay Dubz
SteveeDan
W1P?
---
YGK and miz Ducky doesn't bother to answer my emails.
Fla David, are you for a couple of songs? Email me. My email addres are on the front side, on the Steely Knives MP3's.
User: steviedan | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: jeez, don't you cats get enough schlock and awww. i know i do.
try watching the michael mcdonald dvd as i myself did last nite and we'll go on endlessly about patti labelle's w.o.m.d.'s or steve gadd's bunkerbuster...
it's a DIVERSION, i find...
User: steviedan7#9 | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: genius influences genius, pt. 2
"my personal tweak on the blues is to stick unusual chords in standard progressions", says [scott]henderson, who cites donald fagen as a major inspiration in this regard....
so ! so-called "steely dan fan" ! the REAL steely dan CONTINUES to influence more close harmony than the four freshmen and you heard it HERE FIRST, beeotch...
so PAY ATTENTION and don't lose your place...
User: William Hurt | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: CNN chief stands by Iraq omissions
By Jennifer Harper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
CNN's chief news executive Eason Jordan yesterday disclosed that his network withheld details of Saddam Hussein's brutality from its coverage to protect CNN employees.
Alarming facts about secret police, abductions, beatings, dismemberment and assassinations under the Iraqi dictator were not reported to the public, Mr. Jordan wrote, "because doing so would have jeopardized Iraqis, particularly those on our Baghdad staff."
"I felt awful having those stories bottled up inside me," Mr. Jordan wrote in an editorial titled "The News We Kept to Ourselves" published yesterday in The New York Times. "At last these stories can be told freely."
In an interview with The Washington Times, Mr. Jordan stood by his decision yesterday, saying he felt "relieved" and was "absolutely sure I did the right thing holding these stories."
CNN coverage, he said, had already offered evidence of "the brutality in Iraq," and the move was not intended to "preserve CNN's presence in Iraq."
"We've already been thrown out of Iraq several times. And we are proud we've been thrown out," he said. CNN correspondents were expelled from Baghdad last month.
Some are baffled by it all.
"I was stunned by that op-ed," Fox News Channel and ABC radio host Sean Hannity told The Times yesterday. "Doesn't CNN have a journalistic obligation to report these kind of details, or to make their reporters aware of them? You can bet if CNN made discoveries about, say, a conservative administration, they would share them."
The editorial "sounds like a confession more than anything," Mr. Hannity said. "And I found it hypocritical."
Rich Noyes, director of research at the conservative Media Research Center, said that "Jordan now admits that CNN kept many of Saddam's secrets.
"Have other networks also censored their own tales of Saddam's evil?" he asked.
"If accurate reporting from Iraq was impossible, why was access to this dictatorship so important in the first place? And what truths about the thugs who run other totalitarian states ù like North Korea, Cuba and Syria ù are fearful and/or access-hungry reporters hiding from the American public?" Mr. Noyes said.
But Mr. Jordan had more dramatic revelations to justify his decision.
In companion pieces telecast on CNN yesterday, he said: "There were people in Iraq who believed that CNN was effectively the CIA."
Saddam's regime had accused CNN reporters of working for the CIA and Israel, Mr. Jordan said, and planned to attack them in northern Iraq last month.
The plot was discovered by Kurdish police, who arrested two Iraqi intelligence agents. CNN obtained their videotaped confessions.
Meanwhile, an Iraqi official told Mr. Jordan that "the severest possible consequences" awaited CNN correspondents and that the network's presence in the region "was a violation of Iraqi sovereignty."
According to Mr. Jordan, officials warned other news organizations that anyone caught helping CNN cover the war in Iraq would be jailed.
Tom Rosenstiel of the Project for Excellence in Journalism supports Mr. Jordan's decision, and described him as "obviously tortured" yesterday.
"He wrote an extraordinary and sensible essay," Mr. Rosenstiel said. "He was weighing out his journalistic responsibility and his human responsibility. It's a difficult task, but it comes with the territory of an editor who is responsible for his people ù and the news."
Fox News media analyst Eric Burns said he "commended" Mr. Jordan, if he had indeed protected innocent people from harm.
"But why reveal all this now? Maybe CNN wants to cash in on the current pro-liberation sentiment," Mr. Burns said.
"If he had knowledge he couldn't reveal, then I hope that it would at least be reflected in CNN's coverage."
Barbara Cochran of the Radio and TV News Directors Association said Mr. Jordan was right not to reveal information that could endanger lives, citing the association's code of ethics, "which addresses balancing the harm you do with the news you present."
User: Carter Buford | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: "even Pat has said this from time to time"
Oh Billy boy. Do you really value what St.Al has to say about Steely Dan? Man, you are an idiot!
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Q,
So now I'm an idiot because I don't care for 2VN? That was kind of
uncalled for don't you think? This may come as a suprise to you Q
buy there are alot of Steely Dan fans who don't like the top-heavy jazz
feel of 2VN. I think Donald and Walter are exceptionally gifted
songwriters but I just don't feel I got thier best effort on the last
cd. It's a tangential album which is too great a departure from what
got them here, and there are a lot of people who weren't turned on by it,
even Pat has said that from time to time.
2VN just didn't have any songs on it that made you want to play them over
and over again, such as "Royal Scam", "FM", "Don't Take Me Alive",
"Josie" and the like. The album just doesn't grab the listener with two
hands like the earlier ones did. Hopefully the boys have decided to put
thier shoulder to the wheel for EVERYTHING MUST GO. It remains to be seen.
After 2VN I'm forced to reserve judgement until the release date.
I'd explain it to you further but I wouldn't want to confuse you.
Is is true your parents gave you a single-letter name so you wouldn't
forget how to spell it?
:)
User: angel | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Actually, I like to think we have varried interests....sort of like Donald and Walter.
The review of EMG states:
"and against these upbeat arrangements, Fagen's vocals
take on a lyrical quality that is reminiscent of the pair's '70s heyday."
Sounds like there is hope yet, Bill.
Shaftesque? Funk-laced? and he likes "Lunch with Gina"!!!
Definitely getting excited. :-)
Got my Steely Dan tickets, or so they say....no room at the inn,
though. :-(
User: Session Nine | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Simon, where do you live?
In the weak and the wounded,...Doc.
User: Does anybody listen around here?? | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Tones-Geeez! How many times does St.Al have to tell everybody? If you want to post about Steely Dan, go to http://www.dandom.com/guestbook
If you want to talk about ANYTHING other than Steely Dan...keep it here. Are we all clear on this?
User: t - the lithium has kicked in... | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: St. al. - seen. I just read that post in the wrong mood at the wrong time...
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Q, buddy. That's another one I wouldn't touch. Bill is hopeless.
I personally think we should all pitch in and buy him that new Boston record he so badly wants. After all, there's one band that sound just like they did in the 70's -- the best years of his life...
LMAO Again!
StAl
User: StAl | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Tones: Man, it ain't worth it. Since about 1996 this place has always had the anonymous loser who hides behind words of jealousy, hate and ignorance. It certainly isn't unique to this forum, or life in general. The problem is these people are losers. They are perpetually stuck 5 or 6 rows behind the rest of us. They cannot escape this life of mediocrity that's been foisted upon them so they lash out by attacking us with WORDZ. But WORDZ don't matter. WORDZ are used by the DUMB people. Don't allow yourself to fall into this trap.
So now what I've taken to doing is messin' with their posts. Simply because I can and it's fun. After all, that's the reason I'm here!
StAl
User: Q | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Bill, For my part I've held off all of this time, suspending judgement, because I couldn't care any less...now I see that you are truly an idiot.
It's not Iraq, or all the other endless dribble back and forth - it's the "I've only played 2VN a handfull of times" comment - sheesh - open your mind, if you can...
Maybe you should spend less time babbling on web forums and more time educating yourself.
The Dixie Chicks Guestbook is just down the hall.
I really hope you BUY the new one and don't play it either.
Do you have any old Dan LPs you never listened too either?
User: Tommy | Month: 3 | Day: 13
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User: YGK | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: St. Al: left you a message............
Dan-Challenge: how about constructing short stories using Steely Dan titles or characters or lyrics?
ygk
User: Bill | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Barfly,
Thanks for posting the review of "Everything Must Go".
I'm trying real hard to believe that this one will be what I've been
waiting for the last 20 years. Let's keep in mind that the music
industry gave "Two Against Nature" some faily stellar reviews prior to
it's release and just look what happened. Sure they gave the boys a
whole bunch of Grammy's and everything but I think I've listened to
"Two Against Nature" only a handful of times since I bought it.
Having said that, it looks like the boys may have done things a bit
differently this time and may actually have recaptured some of the
magic that vaulted them to the level of songwriting Zen masters in the
70's. One can only wait and see.
Qwerty,
Sorry bro, I'm not really a right wing hooey in real life. Disappointed?
:)
User: t - all better now... | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Lars - did I say that?
Keyshawn - I don't deny that... They don't let us leave the premises without a handler...
User: Lars | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: t- nothing to say? why post?
barfly - thanks for posting!
L
User: Keyshawn | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: "I've had more stimulating conversation on this guestbook than just any place else I frequent"
Yo dog!- I guess you don't get out much.
No! LMAO!!!!!
User: t - I woke up in a bad mood so SCROLL if you don't want to deal with it: | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Who's a loser? - Obviously YOU are. What the hell are we supposed to say about the EMG review, other than "thanks for posting."? "Nice job cutting and pasting there." None of us have heard the album. Kinda hard to make an informed opinion on the review, don't ya think? Sure it has us salivating even more, but do we really need to tell you that?
I've been a Dan fan for decades, and while I love discussing them with fellow dan fans, I don't feel the need to go over how great the sax solo is in "Dr. Wu" *yet again*, or speculate on the color of sweater Don was wearing when he played the synth part on "Hey 19". If you ask me I think a lot of this stuff is OVER analyzed, dissected until the joy of just digging the tune is long forgotten. But no one here goes over to the Blue to tell you how lame you are for finally noticing the bass line flub on "Do It Again" after 30 years, do they?
You think you're so superior because all you want to talk about is Steely Dan? If I had to sit in a room and discuss ther same band all day, even a band I LOVE dearly, I would be passed out on the floor from boredom. I'd like to think *real* fans were inspired by the music and lyrics to look at life around them, not to sit there in front of the computer with their Steely Dan t-shirts ons and cheer for the band. The band doesn't need it. They're not the Backstreet Boys. But again, if that's what floats your boat, go ahead.
I've had more stimulating conversation on this gb than just about anyplace I frequent, virtual or not, AND I've learned a lot about Steely Dan here. Just because pathetic LOSERS like you don't get it doesn't mean we should have to suffer continual stupid comments about content. HAVE YOUR MOMMY BLOCK THIS SITE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT. Otherwise bite me.
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Barfly - thanks for posting the review.
User: qwerty uiop | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Having not been to the GB in so long I finally decided it was time to pop in and see how everything was going. Wasn't too surprised to see the same old same old. Was thinking maybe for once some here would finally be seeing both sides to every situation, but thats naivety for you.
I was imagining a day where perhaps the right wing contingent lead by their fearless leader Bill could adopt a socalist debating collective and try to argue from that perspective, even for just a short alotted amount of time, (perhaps even a day could change his outlook completely, I hope this doesn't read as being to cheeky). Maybe the same could be done by the left wing contingent, I'd pick a leader but there is so many notable figures in here belonging to that front.
Heck, maybe it is time for a debating forum, time to resolve the issue and for everyone to see their position and rank amongst the files of the GB. I'd have thought limiting the size of the post for such an event wouldn't be a bad idea as so many people think you can win a discussion in here by sending the other to sleep with long monotistic postings. Such a debate would probably need to be over abstract, almost surreal ideas/topic/suggestion as some people have such a deep rooted agenda that theirown beliefs would pollute the objective in hand
Anyhow, I've stirred enough, would be a pleasant break though from the usual...*my hot top #5 for the week* ....*dream band ever*....or the latest views on current affairs
and just one more thing, who plays drums on Marvin Gaye's Lets get it on?
User: Who's a loser? | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Fla.Dave asked: "Was just wondering if I missed any important posts while I was on vacation"
Now Dave, that would depend if you're referring to posts about Steely Dan or posts about the war. If you're referring to Steely Dan (which you might be) the answer is definitely no.
p.s. Did you notice after somebody posted the first review of EMG here nobody said a word about it? That kind of sums things up around here. Now about Sadam..........
User: Floridavid | Month: 3 | Day: 13
Message: Pat, No problem...you do a masterful job of keeping this yellow thing running and, have done so for many years. Thanks, 'preciate it.
Was just wondering If I missed any important post's while I was gone on anniversary/vacation cruise this past week.
Also, I was thinking I wish we had a better venue to offer in Tampa area than the crappy Ice Hockey rink I saw the Guys in last time around.Maybe have to try the East Coast of Florida this time...what say you Q?
Looking forward to Hanging with Bob Tedde and the boys later this month. They are coming to Naples for a "Rockola" gig and managed to squeeze in an extra night to play a cool club there. No "Steely Damned" this time but laying ground work for a future date I hope. Maybe next time there will be airfare budget to bring along my old friend Miz Ducky.
Anyway, A Big Hello to all the GB people. Later, David
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Message: I live in the weak and the wounded. Good.
Those in pain are Dark Diamonds.
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Message: brunch with mea? ring 11amBristol306...backfrommeeting damnthiselectronica ciao
Barfly: this is gonna be one for the ages...
janehowdoyoustopthiscrazything
User: StAlphonzo | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: Floridavid: Must have happened right around the time I was editing the guestbook this morning. Sorry.
Pat
User: Session Nine | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: .I live in the weak and the wounded.... Doc.
User: Luckless Pedestrian, shorter this time | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: aw come on, steely dan fan, the one time i do a wicked long post, every one jumps down my throat - christ almighty...
lol tones
sorry david
i couldn't post the URL st al - 35 bucks to get into this guy's stuff, forget that - but it's a good article
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Message: Bless your heart "Bluz"
User: First review of Every Thing Must Go? The Barfly | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: PREVIEW
STEELY DAN
"EVERYTHING MUST GO"
**** 1/2
The joyfulness of "Everything Must Go" is a pleasant surprise.
The title track of Steely Dan's latest collection is a gorgeous, mournful
number that reaches its denouement with a wistful tenor-sax solo from Walter Weiskopf.
It's an interesting choice for a title track, though, as it's the
furthest thing from the other eight tunes on Walter Becker and Donald
Fagen's follow-up to the grammy-winning "Two Against Nature". Becker and
Fagen have never been more positive musically, from the heavy jazz intro of the opening cut, "The Last Mall," to the neo-soul, "Shaft"-esque
"Godwhacker". The results are often intoxicating, as on the funk-laced
"Lunch With Gina." And against these upbeat arrangements, Fagen's vocals
take on a lyrical quality that is reminiscent of the pair's '70s heyday.
--Steve Baltin
User: t | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: Steely Dan Fan - If it drives weenus' like you away that should be the minimum length of posts here...
Nice going lp.
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New Yardbirds(?!) album April 22nd - from the review at http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=5:46:06|PM&sql=A17se4j376waw:
"When this came out in 2003, it marked the first studio
release by the Yardbirds in 35 years. In that time, of
course, the personnel had changed quite a bit. Even
those inclined to get excited by reunions of great bands
should know right off that it includes just two original
members, drummer Jim McCarty and rhythm guitarist
Chris Dreja (though Jeff Beck plays guest guitar on one
number, "My Blind Life"). Rounded out by three "new"
members (including bassist John Idan, whose lead
singing sounds fairly close to original Yardbirds vocalist
Keith Relf in style and tone), the record also features guest lead guitar cameos by Jeff Baxter, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, and Brian May..."
User: Steely Dan Fan | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: St. Al- That long post by lp is the perfect example on why your guestbook as went to shit.
Laters
User: Floridavid | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: St Al, I posted this morning and came back to look for any replys. My earlier post was gone...! what gives? Not that it was important.David
User: lp, long post, link costs 35 buck, sorry | Month: 3 | Day: 12
Message: Yes, It Is About Oil
By DAVID LINDORFF
Is the war against Iraq all about oil? Not to hear Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tell it. Back on Nov. 15, he called the notion that oil was the real reason behind the Bush administration's drive against Saddam Hussein "nonsense," saying, "It has nothing to do with oil, literally nothing to do with oil."
But a new study released by the Institute for Policy Studies, based upon secret diplomatic cables just declassified by the National Archives, and internal communications of the Bechtel Corporation, suggests just the opposite?that oil is the underlying cause of this war.
The study, which discloses the intimate links between the Bechtel Corporation and Bechtel executives and U.S. policy towards Iraq, also shows that some key players in the push for America's war against Iraq, including Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney, and other former Reagan administration officials Roger Robinson, Judge William B. Clark and Robert McFarlane, have been intimately involved in issues relating to Iraqi oil as far back as the1980s.
Titled "Crude Vision: How Oil Interests Obscured US Government Focus on Chemical Weapons Use by Saddam Hussein," this report traces an intense effort by Reagan officials in the mid-OE80s to win Hussein's approval for a $2-billion oil pipeline to be built by Bechtel, running from the Euphrates oilfields in southern Iraq westward to Jordan and the Gulf of Aqaba.
A key player in that effort was Rumsfeld, then the CEO of Searle drugs, the giant phramaceutical company.
One particularly revealing 1983 memo, declassified for the first time in February by the National Archives, concerns a trip by Rumsfeld to Iraq. Acting as a special White House "peace envoy" allegedly to discuss with Hussein and then foreign minister Tarik Aziz the bloody war between Iran and Iraq, Rumsfeld turns out according to this memo to have been talking not about that war, but about Bechtel's proposed Aqaba pipeline.
In his memo to Secretary of State George Schultz reporting on the meeting with Hussein, Rumsfeld talks at length about the pipeline discussion, but makes no mention of having discussed either the war or charges that Hussein's army was using chemical weapons against the Iranians.
The intense focus of Rumsfeld, Schultz (a former president of Bechtel), Cheney and other Reagan officials, in concert with Bechtel, on the pipeline, reads like an abbreviated, or mini "Pentagon Papers," laying the groundwork for a collapse in relations between the U.S. and Iraq, and eventually to war. The documents also cast Bechtel's current position as one of two top candidates for the lucrative contract to "rebuild Iraq" in a troubling light.
As American troops press into Baghdad, and Iraqi casualties run into the thousands, Counterpunch speaks with Jim Valette, director of research at the Sustainable Energy and Economy Network, and one of the three authors of "Crude Vision."
Q: What prompted this study?
A: We were examing the interconnections between private corporations and the U.S. government in the pursuit of oil worldwide since 1995--principally the U.S. financing --through the World Bank and US agencies like the Export-Import Bank and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC), etc.?of that pursuit. But what has clearly occurred in recent months has been clearly an even more serious expression of this pursuit of fossil fuels for the benefit of Big Oil, which is an extention of this relation into the military role. And so we're looking at the deployment of troops and paramilitaries financed by the U.S. government worldwide, and of course the most serious conflict of interest is in Iraq. In the course of that research we saw the beginning and end of the story of American efforts to gain control of Iraq's oilfields, the beginning being Rumsfeld's meeting with Saddam Hussein in Deecemer 1983 to the end, which was the Independent Counsel's investigation of the Attorney General, at the time, Edwin Meese, and his relationship with one of the brokers of the pipeline, E Robert Wallachs. Before this nobody had connected the dots between Rumsfeld and the Meese investigation and nobody had examined exactly how dominant this pipeline project was in the diplomacy and the burgeoning relationship between the Reagan administration and Saddam Hussein. It was in that context that we came across corporate records and government memoranda related to the Aqaba pipeline project. It was a real eye-opener to us to see how interwomen Bechtel's interests were with the Reagan Administration.
Q. We1re talking about stuff that happened almost 20 years ago. How is this relevant to what's happening in Iraq now?
A: This story, I think, is timely even though it's 20 years old because Bechtel is back now, as the likely winner of the contract to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure, and many of those Reagan administration officials are back, and they are poised to get their hands on Iraq's oil again.
Q: So what is new here?
A: The release in February by the National Archives of cables back and forth between Washington and U.S. diplomats in the Middle East around the time of 1983 and 1984 disclose for the first time what really transpired in Rumsfeld's meetings with Saddam and other Iraqi officials. What had previously been reported was that Rumsfeld had a cozy meeting with Saddam in Baghdad in December 1983. In the past, the focus was on whether or not he had raised the issue of Saddam's use of chemical arms against Iran. But what the actual memoranda show is that a big part of Rumsfeld's discussion with Saddam Hussein was this new proposal from Bechtel to build a pipeline form Iraq to Jordan. I mean Rumsfeld was executing the marching orders of George Schultz, who was the Secretary of State, but who came directly from the presidency of Bechtel to the Reagan administration. The documents released by the National Security Archive suggest that what was going on then had quite a bit to do with oil--certainly more than had been known before.
Q: Before the release of those documents we didn't know that Rumsfeld was talking about a pipeline?
A: Right. Right. I mean it was reported that when he was there he didn't raise an issue with Saddam about the use of chemical weapons, even though there were reports coming out of Iran that Saddam was dropping chemical bombs on Iranian troops.
Q: So we knew before what he didn't talk about, but not what he was talking about?and that was the pipeline?
A: .Right, he was there sort of as a bagman for Bechtel. And then there were documents I found in the government's National Archives that showed the extensive involvement of Reagan officials and the very close relationship they had with Bechtel officials, in pursuing this pipeline over the next two years. We sort of connected the dots between what was in these National Security Archives and what was known in the general coverage over the last 15 years.
Q: How important was this pipeline in terms of A: It was the focus of U.S. relations with Iraq for several years, right through the period that Iraq was locked in a bitter war with Iran. In one 1984 internal company memo, Bechtel executive H. B. Scott exhorts his colleagues at Bechtel, after it appeared that all this diplomacy by Rumsfeld seemed to be paying off, "I cannot emphasise enough the need for maximum Bechtel management effort at all levels of the U.S. government and industry to support this project. It has significant political overtones. The time may be ripe for this project to move promptly with very significant rewards to Bechtel for having made it possible." And in these documents we see how tightly interwoven this management effort is with their former colleagues such as George Schultz in the State Department in implementing this initiative. It shows how corporations take advantage of U.S. geopolitics in the region and how they try to profit from those geopolitical developments. Another important memo was in July of 1985, after Bechtel had run into some difficulties in assuaging Saddam's fears about potential Israeli threats to the pipeline. Bechtel and the State Department were having trouble getting the right degree of assurance from the Isreaeli Labor Party [then the ruling party in Israwl] that the pipeline would be off limits to attack. Bechtel and the Reagan administration officials were trying to get absolute assurance from the Labor Party that the pipeline would absolutely not be attacked. There were some frustrations to that approach in 1985, and so Bechtel hired a couple of very close friends of the Reagan administration to sort out the deal. In July of 1985, pipeline promoters hired Judge Jim Clark, who was considered Reagan's right hand man. He had just left government to go into private business. There's a memo from Judge Clark saying that he's "on board" and laying out the terms of his involvement, which were $500 an hour, and saying he'd be flying to Baghdad, not as a private consultant, but representing himself as a White House representative. That memorandum, which is avialable on our website( Q: Okay, so we have the evidence that there was this big concern about getting this big pipeline for Bechtel, and the interest in getting oil out without it having to go through the Persian Gulf. But wasn't that a legitimate national security concern for the U.S., given Iran's political situation and its hostility towards America? A: Well, it has been long-standing US national security policy on paper that threats to the free flow of oil are threats to national security, and this is what we're getting at here. Is this pursuit of oil or the pursuit of empire? Some folks define what's going on in Iraq as U.S. pursuit of empire, but right now it's really two sides of the same coin. And this policy of pursuing oil and empire is coming up against all sorts of realities now that weren't well understood back in the 1980s. On the National security side, this pursuit of oil wealth at all costs has huge costs to democracy and human rights. It's creating a backlash in the Middle East and elsewhere that has had some horrible expressions recently. Q: The pipeline never got built though. What happened? A: In the end, Saddam decided that Bechtel was trying to charge too much for the project, and so he killed the project and instead went with a pipeline connecting into pipelines in Turkey and into Saudi Arabia, but avoiding the Straits of Hormuz. Q: Do you expect to see the Aqaba pipeline revived? A: Maybe, maybe not. I've seen reports now of Israel looking to build a pipeline from Iraq to the Golan Heights. It's not the same project as Bechtel's Aqaba pipeline idea. Bechtel asked the Commerce Department to keep the Aqaba pipeline registered as an active project for years, but it's probably less necessary now for the U.S. and Bechtel. The pipelines to Saudi Arabia and Turkey give an alternative route for oil to the Persian Gulf, and Bechtel gets into Iraq as a contractor to rebuild Iraq after the war. Right now, according to an article in the Wall Street Journal, Bechtel is one of the two finalists for the Iraq reconstruction job, along with Parson's group, which has Halliburton as a secondary contractor. Halliburton is Vice President Cheney's former company [Note: Cheney is still receiving payments from Halliburton]. That was reported in the Wall Street Journal today (April 2). They're both on the short list. Halliburton sort of stepped back for obvious reasons but they1re still in there with Parsons. A: Aside from the unseemly picture of two well connected companies getting an inside track for all that post-war business in Iraq, why do you find the Bechtel involvement in this situation so troubling? Q: Schultz worked at Bechtel. So did (Reagan Defense Secretary) Caspar Weinberger. There were a lot of Bechtel people in the government in the '80s at the same time that the Iraqi's were gassing the Iranis. The same people are now formulating the plans for a coming U.S. occupation of Iraq, and in turn, the same people will be given the spoils of war--whether it's Parsons and Halliburton or Bechtel. It's all kind of circular back to the 1980s, you know -- completing unfinished business--getting American companies back in there after their being shut out since 1991 and the first Gulf War. Bechtel was also listed by Iraq in its report to the U.N. weapons inspectors as one of the companies that helped supply Saddam with equipment and knowledge for making chemical weapons. Bechtel in the 1980s was prime contractor on PC 1 and 2, two petrochemical plants constructed in Iraq which had dual-use capacity. So I guess the bottom line is that the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld squad are now holding Saddam Hussein accountable for chemical weapons of mass destruction--the same weapons which these same officials ignored in pursuit of the Aqaba pipeline project. And now we are going to reward the pipeline promoter with massive contracts for reconstruction resulting from this policy. There is just such hypocricy in all this. Q: This all seems like a kind of mini-Pentagon Papers, laying out the early roots of this war. A: It's not as much of a blue-print as was the Pentagon Papers, but these memos and documents do show how business gets done in Washington, how it was conducted in the 1980s and how it's probably being conducted now behind closed doors under secret bidding processes. And it shows how the origins of American conflict with Iraq involve control of and access to oil. Q: Can you see any signs that the current war is linked directly to oil? I mean the administration has given so many reasons for going to war I'm surprised they haven't gotten to oil. I remember in 1991, the first Bush said it was about jobs, which equates pretty quickly to oil. But they didn't say that this time around. A: Yeah, they've redacted any reference to oil from their language. Maybe that's the best evidence that that's what it's really about, because it's logical. I mean Bush the first in his national security papers defined the free flow of oil as a national security priority, as did President Clinton in his final months in office. He released a national security paper that said that the free flow of oil is a national security priority that must be enforced with military might if necessary. The current Bush came out with the national security strategy that redacted this long-standing text dating back to the Carter administration, but at the same time you had this Cheney energy policy that continues this idea of the necessity of a "diverse and free supply of oil" without the military language. And actually you had Cheney kind of kick off the whole war fever last August in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars. He cited the specter of Saddam Hussein with his weapons of mass destruction threatening the flow of oil from the region. Then immediately afterwards, any kind of reference like that vanished from the Bush administration's rhetoric, to the point that Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld called any kind of association of the current conflict with oil to be an "absurdity." So there is no document or strategy paper now that says "we must invade Iraq because our US oil companies have been shut out of this second largest reservoir of oil for the last 20 years," but who knows what we'll find in the National Archives 20 years from now? It's a circumstantial case, but that's as good as we can do now. And logic certainly has its place as well. I mean, the question is why are the weapons of mass destruction today a cause for war when these very same weapons were ignored by the same officials 20 years ago when they were being used. What has changed is that other national oil companies--French, Russian and Chinese--have gotten into Iraq, while U.S. companies were being frozen out. I'm sure there are other factors. Certainly the Kuwait invasion didn't help U.S relations with Saddam, and since Kuwait, Saddam signed very lucrative oil contracts with the French, Russians, Chinese and others. Q: You made the point in your paper that US relations started to tank with Iraq after the rejection of the oil pipeline. A: That's true. There was a shift away from Iraq to Iran right at that time, but I should say that Reagan and Bush the First both played both sides of the fence for a while, even after the pipeline project collapsed. You had the Iran Contra deal, but at the same time the U.S. was providing Iraq with intelligence about Iranian troop movements. And the U.S. did extend commodity credits through the Agriculture Department that Saddam then parlayed into arms. And there were the chemical plants that Bechtel helped build. So it's been quirkier than that. But certainly the end of the pipeline destroyed oil relations. Q: What do you think led to the current war. What's the oil link? A: Look at what's in Iraq and what's undeveloped. Iraq represents a major insurance package against any kind of political overhaul in Saudi Arabia or problems elsewhere in the Middle East. Look at the policy that people like Rumsfeld and others were recommending in the 1990s leading up to this war and they certainly cited the threat of Saddam Hussein to regional oil supplies as a cause for war. Certainly if the Bechtel pipeline had been built, the course of Iraqi-U.S. relations would have been much different. The failure of that pipeline set into motion a much different course for those relations. A: So having control of Iraqi oil is still a key issue? Q: It's the sole reason why the Persian Gulf region and Iraq have been a United States national security concern for so long. It's not geography. Q: So what would you say is the lesson of all this? A: The lesson is that when it comes to oil, a dictator is friendly to the U.S. when he's willing to do business and he's a mortal enemy when he's not. That has been the driving force behind national security policy, especially since the fall of the Soviet Union. Oil and national security policy were all submerged in the context of the Cold War. But once that Cold War collapsed, now it's a no-holds-barred battle for oil globally, and the U.S. has seen itself cut out of the world's second largest reserve of oil--and oil that is very inexpensive to extract. So with the U.S. shut out of Iraq, certainly it makes the trigger fingers of U.S. policy-makers itchy. And whether it's a blood feud or a war for oil, it's just a tragedy that the people of Iraq and our own sons and daughters and brothers and sisters are paying the price. what a joke! i'd be indicted if i did this on a dog catcher scale, so wtf? where's the outrage, indeed... User: Lionel Ritchie
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| Day: 12 Message: The Swedish singer/songwriter Mauro Scocco managed to get Mike mcDonald playing keyboard on one of the songs on his latest album "Beat Hotel", and how he plays! It's a kind of travesti/tribute to the Doobie/mcDonald westcoast-oh-so-cool-and-laid-back music. I just love it. --- Bad Sneakers - cool! I am going away over next week and over the Easter holidays (who gets to spend her birthday in Spain? - My wife is, she's turning 50 in Barcelona). I'll start to gather the material when I get back. I'll see how easy that will be... --- Bill - give up now, be cool and dandy, focus on how you can help your President with USA's fading economy, instead of sitting here rambling like a retarded Appalachian Cousin Dupree. User: In the end, the only war that matters...
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| Day: 12 Message: I posted this once but it seems to have evaporated, along with Floridavid's... Bill - you may be right. Maybe I am a nutcase. But at least you didn't call me un-American. As for giving credit where it's due - look around you. The economy is tanking. It's not completely G.W.'s fault, but offering to give Turkey 26 BILLION dollars just to use their airfields when teachers are losing their jobs shows me where his priorities are. And I'll admit he's made progress on terrorism, but at a high cost to our personal freedoms, and he still hasn't gotten Osama. Meanwhile we've just given Osama more recruits and incentives. I'll admit to not being unbiased toward dudya, but I'll give credit when it's due. It's just that I'm still waiting. Maybe you could refresh my memory, maybe list a few things that he's done right. The Iraq thing is off the table because we'll never agree on that, but I'm willing to consider anything else. Btw, you voted for Nader? So this is all *your* fault!! t User: StAl
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| Day: 12 Message: Beers The weather here has been atrocious - perfect for working !!! Hope it is better in the North East. We have kicked around some ideas and have two new tracks in the can so far - I can help with the beer if you are anticipating a rush !!! Anyway fingers keep me a ticket I never got round to sending the cheque (will do). Clas - I would love to master the stuff - am usually away during June and July on the festival trail - May take a portable Protools system this time though so it wouldn't be a problem - send a message to the hotmail address and lets discuss. Bill, lets just let it lie - I love America and Americans, I work there extensively and I always look forward to broadening my mind by listening to American opinions, as long as they are not the same as the ones history has already proven to be flawed - you have missed the point that some mid Europeans from a small rocky outlet in the middle of the Atlantic don't appreciate war in our name when it is our GOVERNMENT who wants a war not our PEOPLE and we still can't fathom out WHY ???. User: smooth as a shark in a sea of ES garot
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| Day: 12 Message: "probably"... I should have taken typing instead of civics in high school... User: Civics 101
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| Day: 12 Message: Bill... for the last time (yeah, right...), understanding that you are problaby the result of our great public school system (more teachers, not bombs!), let me try to dumb this down for you using your terms: We don't think America sucks. We think Bush administration does. Why? Because we don't believe the current administration is holding to the values of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, both of which should guide this country to what it aspires to be. Once again. America doesn't suck. Neither do the troops. You seem to like to make anyone who questions the current administration out to be un-American, which is the same tactic used over and over by the Nazi's when their methods were questioned, right before took the accused out and shot them. Our right to question the Bush administration is stated in both of the above documents. By denoucing that, *you* are being un-American. Sorry... I promised I wouldn't get too complicated... Back to square 1. America doesn't suck. Why? Because the "concept" of America is bigger than bozos like Bush (either of them), Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Cheney, Clinton, Clearchannel Inc., you (yes, I just called you a bozo), me (there, now we're even), or anyone else you or I might disagree with, *regardless* of whatever office any of us have ourselves appointed to. Therefore, Bush sucks, im-ever-ho, but America doesn't, because that asshole and his ilk will never be everything this country stands for. Did I go too fast for you? If so, print this out and have your nearest Arab American explain it to you. Btw, is your last name O'Reilly? User: C
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| Day: 11 Message: YGK - did you get my response? I was talking about the GBook CD. User: angel
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| Day: 11 Message: Not all politics, Worm Tom. I posted 2 today about the tour. :-) User: Bill
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| Day: 11 Message: Steveedan, Howard's boilerplate conspiracy logic is what irritates me. I just don't happen to think that America sucks, and for that I've User: wormy
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| Day: 11 Message: been away so long I hardly knew the place... lets see Steely Dan has tour dates, yes tour dates showed up in my email box this week Oh well, I wish they'd just love to tour the southland I'm online at home now, so I won't be the stranger I've been the last 8 months. ANy other oldies coming out of the woodwork? cheers to all of you, and most pleasant topsoilantries Malcolm's new disc is out! can wait to get my hands on it the Beatles Anthology is now in sterling DVD glory ... gee it's good to be back home wormtom User: EdAsner
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| Day: 11 Message: Huh? Bill, leave me out of this In the meantime, you can kiss my ass in Studio City at the intersection of Ventura and Vantage User: t
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| Day: 11 Message: Yeah Mu... come on out. I promise not to talk politics while the Two are on stage... User: Aja............................and now for something really scary
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| Day: 11 Message: Headline on news story: "India mulls preemptive strike on Pakistan". What Howard and tones said! I wish I could vote you two into office. Aus-it's not that I don't believe some people are genuinely celebrating in Iraq. Iraq is a splintered nation of many tribes, some celebrating us, others loathing us (ex. today 200 Iraqi's in Iran stormed the Iraqi embassy, destroyed pictures of Saddam Hussein, and chanted "No more Saddam, No U.S. puppet regime, we want freedom!"). I don't believe the situation is as simplistic as Donald Rumsfeld (or dr. mu) would have us believe. On that note, doc, welcome to the Left Coast, and feel free to drop in for some jazz and conversation. User:
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| Day: 11 Message: I mean, even in the gangster movies when there's a "hit" in a restaurant, they're alway eating *pasta*. Pizza saves. User: t
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| Day: 11 Message: EE - Oh yeah?!!! :-) Aus - forgot to mention Google News, automated non-bias news harvester that grabs headlines from around the world. Great way to get different perspectives, or to just read the ones you agree with.... pizza (yeah jjeff, pizza, cause no one fights while eating pizza. Even the mafia stops shooting for a slice of pie...) t User: StevEEDan
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| Day: 11 Message: Bill ... Howard ... Tones ... St. Al (and others ...)--- Come on now, enough of the personal attacks (this is mainly directed at YOU Bill ... and you know I like you ... but a person who wants to act as a good friend like I am attempting to do here isn't always liked for everything he does ... like what I am about to say to YOU Bill). We here all know that you served in the American armed forces. You have our respect for that. Your patriotism is not in question. Quite frankly, though at times you may behave like a loose cannon, I certainly would be much happier having you fight for us rather than against us. Having said that ... I think we can all agree that war is a bad means to hopefully a better end. We all fear that we may not realize this better end. War and annihilation is the last resort. We all have different political and religious viewpoints. We all know that the information that we receive from various media sources and also from our governments is grossly incomplete and is not perfect truths. I would like to extend the notion that since we are all major fans of Steely Dan and other intelligent music ... and other art forms ... that we are collectively intelligent enough to be able to agree to accept the viewpoints which are written here without falling to personal attacks on this poster or that poster. Obviously stupid crap is a different story ... I am not writing this post to get involved in a political discussion. I hate political discussions. I prefer musical discussions. I appreciate humor and even sarcasm (even sometimes mean spirited sarcasm as it can be) just as well as the next guy. I just don't like seeing people like Howard get nailed by Bill over something that none of us know the whole story about ... and probably never will. Bill, you have to remember that Howard is an extremely talented musician who has devoted a lot of time to write extremely accurate guitar tablature transcriptions for Steely Dan, Joni Mitchell, XTC, and a lot of other musicians/bands and post them on his website for all to enjoy free of charge. He doesn't demand your (or anyone else's) respect ... but I do think that he commands it. I don't think he is looking for an apology from you ... just a little tolerance. Remember everyone ... the war is occuring in Iraq ... not here in our safe secure little guestbook. I refuse to quote that stupid Rodney King line ... User: Howard
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| Day: 11 Message: If you read my last few posts, you'll find I am continually asking you to say MORE about what you think, so that I can be sure I understand your viewpoint. You're implying that I am among a group of people who make an effort to PREVENT you from speaking your mind. It's certainly not true for myself, and I don't believe it's true for others. Can you point to any instance where I have sought to stop you from saying whatever you want to say? Have I ever hurled abuse at you or "called you all sorts of vile names"? No. Maybe you should practise what you preach before trying to take the moral high ground. Howard User: Ahh!
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| Day: 11 Message: JayDubz - there you are! Good. I don't know if I have your email address, email me just in case. clas@ateljelundkvist.se User: tones
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| Day: 11 Message: Aus - I respect the fact that you go outside the mainstream media to gather your information. I wish more people would, but the sad fact is in a democracy it shouldn't be this hard to find unbiased news sources. American media is only slighty better than Iraq's Ministry of Information, and here's why: ------------------------------ In the United States, for example, the three major television broadcast networks, the American Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), the Columbia Broadcasting Service (CBS), and the National Broadcasting Corporation (NBC) are controlled by large corporations. ABC is owned by the Disney Corporation, whose main line of business is the running of theme parks and recreation resorts; CBS is owned by the entertainment behemoth Viacom, Inc., while NBC is owned by General Electric (GE), which is in the power supply business. This scenario of corporate ownership of news outlets has raised concerns, mostly among journalists, that the integrity of news may be affected by bottom line considerations of these corporate owners. This concern is quite relevant especially when one considers the growing impact of advertising and entertainment in the operations of media outlets, a phenomenon that has been described as ôadvotainment newsö by Bill Kovach, one of the authors of the new book ô The Elements of Journalism.ö But an even more articulated concern about corporate media ownership pertains to the phenomenon of ôsynergyö- concerted action- among the various business operations, including the news outlet itself, being run by the entrepreneurial corporate giants. http://www.columbia.edu/~ocu1/corp.html ------------------------------ While that article goes on to say maybe corporate ownership isn't necessarily a bad thing (for one reason because it preserves jobs), it doesn't mention that every one of those controlling corporations are owned by conservatives who donate heavily to the Republican party. And it doesn't even mention the Clearchannel monopolizing of the radio industry, which when you take into account the above information amounts to an almost complete conservative control of the media. How did this happen? Simple really. Deregulation by republican controlled congresses, while simultaneouly shouting about a "liberal media". In football terms its called the mis-direction play. There was no liberal media. Maybe a few liberal journalists who remembered how it should be, but their voices are becoming far and few between. And notice how every major news outlet has retired majors and generals providing color like sports commentators, but not one has a regular opposing voice giving commentary. This ain't paranoia bro, just the facts. So to answer your question as to where someone like me gets my information, the answer is anywhere I can. I sit down with a newspaper or in front of the tv with a big ol' grain of salt and realise that there's probably a whole lot more to the story than I'm being told. Even/especially local news coverage, like the whole SFPD indictments saga, where one night I see live footage of the judge admonishing the police for their blocking of an internal affairs investigation, then the next day in the paper it says the judge admonished the prosecuting D.A., exactly the opposite of what I saw and heard on the tube. And for the record, I was appalled by the coverage of events after 9/11 by some people at one of our very liberal public radio stations here in the bay area, who seemed to be using the deaths of those innocent people to forward their own agenda (days before the Bush administration started doing the same thing). So it cuts both ways. But the biggest difference is that was a few people on a local radio program, as opposed to what amounts to thinly disguised national state-run media. And get this: I even support our troops. They're doing a great job. I just don't think that risking their lives or the lives of all those innocent civilians was necessary or rational, or even in the best interests of our country, for many of the reasons stated by people here. But the troops don't get a choice, they do what they're told, as they should. That's their job. But it is the job of every person in this country to question whether or not they are being put in harm's way for a just cause or not, because the troops don't have a say themselves as to whether or not the reasons they're fighting for are worth dying for. And I question the authority of anyone who thinks they have the right to judgement over who should live or die. Sorry for the excessive length people... peace out t User: Jaydubz
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| Day: 11 Message: Clas ~ Count me in this time around for the compilation. User: angel
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| Day: 11 Message: St. Al: Speaking of work getting in the way of a good tour....I have to deal with that nasty "P" word, for most of the month. It always happens (at my work) in August. So I am shooting for the early dates. I would really love to go to NYC and catch Jones Beach, but don't think it is in the cards. Gorge seems to be out, too, though that may change. User: C
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| Day: 11 Message: Ban Sneakers - deadline, well, as Roy Scam so wisely put it; -... when Steely Dan is releasing an Album in June... that might be artistically masochistic to put out a Guestbook CD at the same time :-) So, I was thinking late fall -03 And knowing Brett had a hard time gathering all materials, I have started now, just so everybody has time to compose and record and so. And for your offer (if I understood you right) to master the stuff, that would be great. We keep in touch. --- And I have a question here, listening to the MP3's at the StAl's frontsite, and on my site, the sound is distorted, and it's not my speakers, when I listen to CD's it sounds terrific. Is it me, or has anyone else heard that? User: StAl
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| Day: 11 Message: W1P: I will be buying a copy of Fair Forgery very soon. Can't wait to hear it. Bill: I think I misunderstood your intentions. Upon re-reading your post I don't think you were attacking their artistic capabilities. Not sure why I assumed that? Sorry. Also, I would never consider Mu or Aussie naive. Though I may disagree with their position, my statement was more general in it's intent and not directed at anyone in general. I find this whole thing rather fascinating. Though I still believe many supporting this action have not thought this through. That they've fallen victim to the propaganda machine that has pervaded our collective conciseness since 9/11. However, clearly there are people who's opinions I respect, who honestly believe this action is the proper thing to do. Whereas I'm so sure I'm right, others are not convinced. Can you imagine how boring this world would be if we all agreed on everything? Mu: What do you mean? I'm a left coaster. Man, consider the Gorge as it's THE place to see a show on this side of our little world. Konocti is out for me. Seems like everything is crashing in during a 3 week period of time in July/August. Phish is playing the Gorge July 12th. My vacation is set for July 21 - 25th and Steely Dan at the Gorge August 2nd. Don't know how I'm going to pull all that off considering the job situation. I hate it when work interferes with fun. Something just isn't right about this. StAl User: Bill
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| Day: 11 Message: Pat, Was it really necessary? As far as the hundreds of Iraqi's jumping on the statue goes, those were You seem to know quite a bit about the music business. Most of your Fezo, If I'm a "sheep" for the current administration (who I DID NOT vote into User: W1P
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| Day: 11 Message: This morning on the world famous "Morning Becomes Eclectic" program on KCRW 89.9 in Los Angeles, DJ Nic Harcourt played "Money" by Yortoise from A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd. Mr. Harcourt spend quite a bit of time talking about how interesting the compilation is and I'm certain that his comments indicate that he will be playing additional tracks in the future. KCRW is available on the web at http://www.kcrw.org and on AOL Radio (under News/Sports/Talk for some reason). User: Randy
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| Day: 11 Message: Iraq was previously supplied with support (i.e. money, weapons) when it would result in a (political, i.e. financial) benefit for the U.S. Government (why would he be supported THEN when he's "evil" now? Did he become less "evil"?); when the U.S. Government is bombing, the receiving party are "Iraqi soldiers," "bandits," etc. who are the "enemy"; when the U.S. Government has achieved some of what they wanted, they become "the liberated." This was a war for control of oil and money, propagated by a money-hungry capitalistic government with shades of imperialism; the U.S. will continue to put a spin on everything to lend creedence and support (as all nations do); they have paid no attention to issues in the U.S. (healthcare, education, the economy), because those issues require SPENDING money to help it's own people, instead of spending money (on an expensive war) to MAKE money later for THEMSELVES. The government has thus far done a good job of stonewalling foreign companies in order to keep them from being involved in the restoration of Iraq, i.e., now that they've destroyed it, they can make money rebuilding it, by using large corporations which have ties to various individuals in the Bush administration. I resent and will not support a government that uses MY TAX DOLLARS to fund things such as this atrocious war, which basically serves THEIR OWN AGENDA; they are not serving the people of the U.S., nor anyone else; it's about GREED, people. If things are ever going to change in this country, the people need to TAKE CONTROL of the Government and HOW THE GOVERNMENT SPENDS ITS PEOPLE'S MONEY. Control the money, you control the government; that's what the U.S. Government did in Iraq, and that's what WE need to do HERE in the U.S., because they are out of control and do not serve their own people anymore. People don't vote because they have no hope - they are passive because they feel like they have no control. People should be able to dictate TO THE GOVERNMENT where they want their tax dollars to go; those who want money for education and the environment can have their money go there; those who want missiles made for defense can have that; THE PEOPLE should be deciding what they want their government to do; THEY work for US; not the other way around. The government used MY MONEY to fund THEIR crooked, shortsighted, aggressive, dangerous, greedy, and barbaric "solution," and then they lie about all of it. Fuck them all. "Don't talk--shoot--it's the American way." Randy P.S. St. Al - there you go. User: angel
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| Day: 11 Message: Aussie: Some perspective on war coverage. Unfortunately, you have to sign up to view this article. I don't always agree with Howard Rosenberg, but it does bring up some points on the war coverage. User: StAl
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| Day: 11 Message: Bill: Was that really necessary? Why in the world would you want to attack the artistic capability of an individual who's politics you disagree with? Aussie made some good points. I wish more on "his side" were capable of coherent statements. Aja makes a point about finding the middle ground between the rhetoric. In the case of "staged" demonstrations by the Iraqis, my take is using the word "staged" is the rhetoric part (by the left) of the real fact that in a city of 5 million people, having a couple hundred Iraqi protesters dancing on a statue does not constitute "jubilation on the part of the Iraqi people." The implication of this statement meaning *majority* -- which it ain't... I also have to ask of the people who believe the US is in there to liberate, why all of a sudden do we care about these people? Why not when he gassed those Kurds? What about other oppressive regimes in the Middle East and Africa? Why don't we do something about them? When do we stop? Who makes those decisions? That argument doesn't work for me. It's naive and hypocritical. Besides, I simply don't wish to fund these actions. After all, it's all about money, no? StAl PS. Couldn't resist, sorry. PSS. Randy -- did I get it right? User: Jimbo
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| Day: 11 Message: Clas- Thanks for the compliment. Your last statement definitely points out what's wrong with today's individual. Me, as a teen, I could always get out after midnight and get back without getting caught. Most of my rebellion nature was repressed until college. After that, watch out:) Last night I was watching Listen Up with Charles Barkley. Charles was interviewing Sen. John McCain, a Republican who usually criticizes Bush, but now is a buttlicker for him. He told Charles that the one place that still provides greater equal opportunity is the Military. Okay, does that mean if I can't acheive my dreams of being a teacher or a doctor, then the last bastion of opportunity is the military? See the world, conquer it, not explore it, not learn it and yet, get shot or killed. Oh, yeah, Aussie- In America, there is a magazine called Mother Jones which is the direct opposite of the media crap that CNN, FOX , and MSNBC has been feeding us. Mother Jones will comfort you . User: Jimbo
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| Day: 11 Message: Clas- Thanks for the compliment. Your last statement definitely points out what's wrong with today's individual. Me, as a teen, I could always get out after midnight and get back without getting caught. Most of my rebellion nature was repressed until college. After that, watch out:) Last night I was watching Listen Up with Charles Barkley. Charles was interviewing Sen. John McCain, a Republican who usually criticizes Bush, but now is a buttlicker for him. He told Charles that the one place that still provides greater equal opportunity is the Military. Okay, does that mean if I can acheive my dreams of being a teacher or a doctor, then the last bastion of opportunity is the military? See the world, conquer it, not explore it, not learn it and yet, get shot or killed. Oh, yeah, Aussie- In America, there is a magazine called Mother Jones which is the direct opposite of the media crap that CNN, FOX , and MSNBC has been feeding us. Mother Jones will comfort you . User: Hank Silvers
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| Day: 11 Message: For the francophones among us -- the nightly news is available on demand in Realplayer format at france2.fr . And BTW, the Friday-Saturday anchor, BTatrice Schonberg, is a pleasure to watch and to listen to. I heard from Midnite Cruiser earlier this week. He and Opti are alive and feeling fine. In the news, though, I saw something about his employer (Goodyear) losing a billion dollars last quarter, so that can't be good. User: Beerberianianiani
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| Day: 11 Message: Il mio amore F come un grande maturo melone User: Beers almost on vacation
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| Day: 11 Message: Bad S; How goes the CD man ? I know nothin' about Leg 2 ...Just that the extra line appeared on EMG site this am MUST be Euro Leg surely ??? Got the weekend to pack ... Then it's Verona Bound on Tues I will buy a beer for any GBer who comes to the gig in May (provided they are accompanied by their parents LOL) User: She's almost gothic but it's better than that
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| Day: 11 Message: Eva Narcissus Boyd, as teenager known as "Little Eva" when her first Boyd, a Native of Belhaven, North Carolina was discovered by Carol King "The slow-eyed creature in the reckless room she's so severe User: fezo
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| Day: 11 Message: Aussie, you must have missed this. Front page story, major American paper, Pulitizer Prize winning reporter. In most dictionaries, I believe choreographed is synonymous with staged Shortly before 5 p.m., combat engineers laid plastic explosives along the pedestal and Iraqis detonated the charge to pitch the statue of Hussein -- holding an upraised sword -- into a street intersection, Army sources said. The gesture was part of a choreographed effort to suggest local support for the U.S. occupation. Earlier in the day, a Shiite force of 150 paramilitary fighters was expected to declare an insurrection against the Hussein government after claiming credit for capturing a Fedayeen motor pool that actually had been secured by 101st Airborne Division soldiers. Only 23 Shiites showed up, however -- their allegiance to the Americans signified by white armbands -- and the statute-toppling operation was launched . . ." Bill, your respect for differing points of view is indicative of the attitude fostered by the current administration. I pity sheep like you. Baaaaaa User: Bad S
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| Day: 11 Message: Cl@s I would be up for working on the CD - Mixing, remixing, mastering etc (send Protools 24 bit sessions to our FTP site) but the studio can't put up original stuff for contractual reasons - I will do a cover if we get some time - when is the deadline ???? Moll - Sling your hook me hearty to the UK Danfest on the 3rd of May it would be great to meet you. Goes for anyone else on the GB too (Yes everyone !) - Beers has promised beers for all who show !!! User: Howard
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| Day: 11 Message: I was genuinely interested to know which "we" you had in mind when you talked about how "we" will go from country to country, tracking down and eliminating terrorists. I'm still interested to know! Aussie - I might have missed it, but I didn't read any posts that suggested the scenes of jubilation on the streets of Baghdad were staged. My main point was/is that the smiles will fade quickly, and that a whole heap of problems is likely to come crashing down. I'm still delighted that Saddam's regime is (almost) over, but I don't see it as simply as some of you: that "Uncle Sam went in, kicked ass, liberated everyone, and they all lived happily ever after". I'm still very concerned about the future of Iraq, and how the impact of it and the war will affect people in all countries of the world. Like Clas, I'm glad there's a wide enough spectrum of views being expressed by you guys from the US to still give me hope that there are *some* people I can agree with. Howard P.S EMG sound clips soon at SD.com? Please...? User: Leg 2
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| Day: 11 Message: Are they going to play Europe? Bad Sn - are you with us on the Yellow CD? Email me, you'll find the email on the front, the Steely Knives MP3's page. /C User: bad sneakers
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| Day: 11 Message: Bill You crack me up man - are you the reincarnation of John Wayne ?? I wouldn't fancy kissing your ass though despite your kind offer - It must be covered in saddle sores. I will meet you in Times square though and go to a few arab bars with you if you like - you may even meet some ordinary nice human beings just like you. BB - Tell me more about leg 2 ??? User: Beers en angleterre
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| Day: 10 Message: UPDATE !!! "Leg II Dates and ticket sale links will be added above as announced" So we HAVE a second leg Thank F*** for that .... User: Clas
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| Day: 10 Message: He never rised against his parents, never questioned his teachers or superiors, that's why he joined the army... a blind sheep that has to be taken care of. He believes everything his government is telling him, he also believes what the whoring government-connected-media is telling him. I'd lose faith in the Americans if it wasn't for guys like Aja, LP, Jimbo, Tones, yes even you StAl. User: The Guestbook
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| Day: 10 Message: Damn. User: Paige
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| Day: 10 Message: Well, I'm convinced. -Paige "Show business kids making movies of themselves, User: Schweedish Meatball
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| Day: 10 Message: All this slobberin' is makin' me thirsty. User: ¦ - like some old cartoon
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| Day: 10 Message: God bless Aussie That's why we're there Looks like they're serving up something mighty strong at Denial & Delusion OK left-coasters, I'm a comin' to get ya. There will be no trouble spotting me among 10,000 conventioneers with my Steely Dan t-shirt, cowboy hat...and I'll be packin.' L'il Bro and the rest of the SARS defense team will be welcoming me before off I'm off to comfy accomodatioins near the county jail...I'll be hunting down free radicals at poster 594.5... User:
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| Day: 10 Message: Go away, Bill. User: Bill
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| Day: 10 Message: Aussie, You continue to prove that you are among the most thoughful people I Secretary Colin Powell is fine human being with a depth of understanding User: Miz Ducky
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| Day: 10 Message: [up periscope] Hi gang-- Appearances to the contrary, I have not fallen off the face of the earth. I've just been very very very very busy. Not so busy, however, as to miss noticing the impending tour action. And me with a nice fat tax refund to spend on travel to shows and DanFests 'n' stuff! See y'all soon, hopefully! /the duck User: Aussie
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| Day: 10 Message: I'm just curious to know what news sources Americans who are opposed to the US led war in Iraque refer to. I mean besides Al-Jazeera, the BBC, CNN, Reuters, The New York Times, and other widely available forms of media (including more obscure but no less relevant well written publications like Harpers Magazine) which I scour on a daily basis (a proximate consequence of my livelihood)I'm really hard pressed to see anything at all which suggests that our military intelligentsia (.sp) [I know, an oxymoron] is "staging" the images of jubilation emoted by Iraquis on the streets. And incidentally, CNN, that evil cog in this mass media mind fuck, HAS shown plenty of footage of badly burned and injured civilians, including women and children. Old enough to know that our government has been perhaps the greatest perpetrators of the greatest lies ever told, and therefore not predisposed to believe EVERYTHING that comes out of the Pentagon and The White House, I still have a hard time believing that the whole "wmd", etc. has been compleatly fabricated by our mass media machines. In fact, I think reasonable people who have following the events even quasi-closely can agree that the vast majority of bold faced lies have come from Iraque's Ministry of Information (to wit: US soldiers committing mass suicides and other lies like the US is nowhere near Baghdad or they have not taken over Sadaam Airport, et alia). Moreover, and stunningly revealing was the statement made by Iraque's UN representative: "The "games are over". Games indeed. Anyway, I was seriously wondering if all these protestors had some kind of inside information that the rest of us "blind sheep" are just too stupid to get ahold of. And by inside information I am excluding paranoid delusions that many of these vociferous protestors harbour that our government is out to fuck EVERYBODY so watch out! Say what you want, but those "staged" scenes of jubilant Iraquis and other jarring scenes like people literally rioting to get their hands on food and water makes me extremely proud to not only be an American, but also to fully support Operation Iraqui Freedom. May God continue to bless America. Godspeed to our brave men and women. Aus post script: The Steely Dan tour this summer couldn't come fast enough! Relief, quickly pleeeeeeeeease! User: bumper sticker of the day
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| Day: 10 Message: Abstinence makes the church grow fondlers. User: WORLD WIDE WEB
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| Day: 10 Message: KSDS FM IS BACK ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB ksds-fm.org User: jjeff
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| Day: 10 Message: Wow, Steviedan's back. I thought you'd left for good. Good to see ya. Didja notice I'm still wearin' it? Aja: I'm blushing just thinkin' bout you. Bill: You should watch another channel for news besides CNN. They're so totally biased. CBC or BBC have a better handle on things. Yeah, Midnite's been gone a while. I tried goading him a couple weeks ago but he never responded. 2 more weeks and I'll be in Arizona!!! Not much of an agenda except to drink in the grand canyon. My sister has a time share she wants to sell and has credits that she wants to use up so all I pay for is the airfare. Couldn't pass it up. See y'all. (pizza, Tones? Crack me up!!!:-) ) User: Aja.................SSDD
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| Day: 10 Message: There was a very interesting article in the NY Times about this war is really about propoganda-we show cheering crowds, Al-Jazeera shows wounded Iraqi children and covers the latest suicide bomber (about 3 hours ago, and it won't be the last). The real truth is somewhere in between, and is a hell of a lot more complicated. It's incredibly easy to manipulate what people see and think. Wow, doc mu has found the WMD! Gee doc, better tell the State Dept, because they desperately need some evidence. User: Dick Cheney
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| Day: 10 Message: You fucking nattering nabobs sit there debating inane crap while I dive in and make loads of money getting government contracts for Haliburton. Soon as I get that new heart from some starving poor world jerk I will go another 50 years. Life is good. User:
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| Day: 10 Message: I love this place. User: king of the world
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| Day: 10 Message: Yes, it was really me who made that statue tilt over and try to shake hands with the crowd. Shake before my power. Sort of liked abortive attempts to create self-fulfilling, contrived historical sound-byte (or image-byte), by draping various flags over Saddammy (as his friends don't call him). I saw the American flag the next day, clearly a big PR mistake, and saw the Iraqi flag at the time. Better, but confusing. Must have been a reaction to the guy putting the US flag up there. But the Iraqi flag could have been totally supportive of SH. i wouldn't be surprised if the US/UK are still having trouble, since it'd fit with the backfired "moment of destiny" on TV. One bad flag after another, then they try to tear down Hussein, only to have him appear to extend that fatherly hand of his right down into the crowd. Molly--- Have to say that's the first time I've been addressed as "Sugarman". I kind of like it. That's who I am from now on. Sugarman. That sounds damn good. Had a depressing thought re your war discussion... think I'll save it for peacetime. Good luck, as lame as that sounds. Re cuts in social programs... don't know why that didn't hit me 'till now. A drug that has allowed me to stand existing is being cut from Medicaid now. The druggist says cuts are suddenly happening left and right. The first night of "shock and awe" cost half a billion i know. Good point, about how posting on the war doesn't accomplish anything. I think it's an easy thing to expound on... it's right there on TV, there are clearly defined sides to take up... it's too tempting to attempt to shore up one's self-image as a self-righteous defender of goodness with this issue. It's harder to take on subjects others will not have heard of, but which may be just as all-pervading and important, in the long run. Anyone here making a cool, intelligent post excepted. Either way, we've just expounded our views to a handful of other Dan fans. I tried to find Bill's big controversial post, and couldn't. Re C&W's reaction... i tend to think that "outrage" is usually more about affirming how righteous one appears to himself and others, than any real desire to stand up for what's right. People who get "outraged" usually don't have a sense of humor, either. If it was black humor (Bill's post) then that kind of humor accepts the seriousness of the subject matter. As opposed to stupid Leno jokes about OJ or something, where nothing "black" seems to be acknowledged. He just seems to think it's goofy and fun to joke about people getting murdered. (He had a sense of black humor back in the 80s, when he was good.) My last post was too snotty, though who cares... no one noticed anyway. Didn't mean to call you 'nobody' Molly. This post is too patronizing. I can't quit this board with the new one coming out... June 10? Where else can i react to it? User: bad sneakers
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| Day: 10 Message: hear hear fezo The truth of this particular "war" is - There is no truth being told. I am sitting in Italy watching a completely different (very much unfinished) war from the one I was watching (obviously censored) in Britain a few days ago - Serious fighting - Baghdad anything but capitulated - Young British and American lives being wasted in the name of - What ???? I haven't seen one "weapon of mass destruction" yet (Nor will I). So Buffalo Bill, Dr Mu et al you deluded right wing buffoons who delight in the murder of innocents in the name of imperialism and more history repeating itself - When are you guys booking your tickets for a real fight in North Korea and China then ???? You are truly clueless despite the amount of internet crap you cut and paste. User: fezo
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| Day: 10 Message: In the spirit of the glass being half full, not half empty: I'm glad to see the American Right finally embracing the concept of liberating oppressed people. Even in recent times, they were installing the dictators and/or perpetuating their rule, not rescuing their victims. Pinochet's Chile or the El Salvador of the Reagan era where the government troops we backed engaged in a systematic brutal elimination of even imagined dissent are just two of the more prominent examples. I'm sure the citizens of Burma are anxiously awaiting the arrival of their American liberators. User: Howard
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| Day: 10 Message: Bill: don't get me wrong, I'm as happy as everyone else to see the people of Baghdad celebrate the end of Saddam's dictatorship. But recent TV and radio reports that I've heard have stressed that it was a minority, a few hundred people, who were out cheering and celebrating on the streets. Many millions of others were shut away indoors, defending their property against looters and anxious about what is to come. Freedom from Saddam is a great thing, but there is a long way to go before Iraq achieves anything close to real freedom. I also saw reports from Jordan, and there were no smiles there, only frowns. The reactions of the millions of Arabs outside Iraq to the war is probably more significant than the reactions of Iraqis, and I don't think there are many smiles there. The reports from Baghdad that I saw today showed troops that were nervous and twitchy (with good reason). They are in an incredibly difficult and tense situation. Several civilian vehicles were fired upon today, and civilians died. A 6 year-old girl was shot in the head. More incidents like this could quickly change the mood. The city is in chaos: no power, no law and order, little food or water, hospitals and shops being looted. I worry that the initial jubilation will fade quickly, and the reality of the situation will hit hard, with unpredictable results. Iraq is an incredible melting pot of different religious and ethnic groups. Under Saddam, these religous and ethnic tensions were squashed - they all shared a greater enemy. Now that he is gone, I worry that these tensions will start to boil over. There are signs that they have done so already, with the assasination of a leading Shi'ite who recently flew into Iraq from exhile in London. I still believe the justifications for going to war were shaky, but the end of Saddam's regime is to be welcomed. I await real evidence for Iraq's WMD. I hope that Iraq can move out of this low point towards stability and democracy, but I fear it will be a long, painful and chaotic journey. Howard P.S You never did say who your "we" was supposed to be. I am actually interested to know... User: This just in:
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| Day: 10 Message: President Bush is fast-tracking a bill through congress proposing to make Iraq the 51'st state. Though extremely controversial, the president believes making Iraq a state will, "ultimately benefit the Iraqi people by greatly speeding up the rebuilding process". While the bill is expected to draw strong opposition from not only Democrats but the U.S.'s strongest ally Great Britain, who has expressed concerns that it will be even more difficult for British corporations to participate in the lucrative rebuilding process, it is said that the president has more that enough votes to push this quickly through the Republican-led congress, and that it could be a "done deal" by the end of the summer. This proposed bill has alarmed critics of the administration, who have expressed many concerns, not the least of which is the name of the proposed state, said to be suggested by the president himself: New Texas. We'll be following this story closely and will be providing updates as they come to us... User: Statesman
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| Day: 10 Message: Colin Powell when asked if America's war against Iraq was a pretext for User: Moll
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| Day: 10 Message: Stevee, that explains my bounced e-cards! I just thought you didn't like me any more. ;) The fairs will be fun, just go with the flow babe.lmao User: SteveeDan
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| Day: 10 Message: Hi Beers - When did you send me your e-mail? I will send you one with my new e-mail address ... had to change DSL companies. One day I got a letter from my old DSL company. It read: User: Clas
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| Day: 10 Message: the Independence, from Robert Fisk, ; "It is the beginning of our new freedom," an Iraqi shopkeeper shouted at me. Then he paused, and asked: "What do the Americans want from us now?' User: "We" said the fly in the Lions ass...
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| Day: 10 Message: Howard - it's good to read you. User: Beerberian
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| Day: 10 Message: st vi d n; Yeah Just about sums it up - Stick a "No Label Required" label on that one stevEEdan; Got your case packed yet then ? No reply to email ?? User: Bill
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| Day: 10 Message: Howie, Look at those smiling faces in Baghdad and tell whether we made friends Hearing this diatribe from a loser like Clas is to be expected. Oh, Steely Dan is releasing a new cd in 2 months. Did you know that? User: Howard
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| Day: 10 Message: Amazing isn't it? In the build up to the war all the talk was about WMD, then as soon as the first bombs fell (and almost ever since) the talk has been about killing Saddam and destroying his regime. The weapons barely get a mention! Where are they indeed? Blair and Bush say they are confident they will be found, but how long will we wait for definitive evidence? ¦: it's true, the media have talked of rumours and suspicions of WMD in Iraq, and "initial tests indicated the possible presence of..." but there hasn't been anything solid yet. Even Rumsfled has been very guarded in what he said on this - basically saying we haven't found anything yet, and more investigations are underway. If they had found anything solid, he would be shouting about it. Bill: "After 9/11 we have no choice but to track down and eliminate terrorists wherever they are. If they move to Syria well get them in Syria. If they move to North Korea we'll get them in North Korea... [snip] ...Until there's no place left for them to run to. Until they are eliminated. Until the last one is gone. Understand it all now?" Just to be clear, who is the "we" exactly? The US? What a cheery prospect: the US pointing their finger at anyone, in any country, declaring them a terrorist and killing them. What a great way forward for the world. Anyhow, aren't you forgetting the fact that most of the terrorists who planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks were based in countries like the US, Germany, the UK...? They didn't come from Iraq, or Syria, or North Korea... originally, most of them came from Saudi Arabia, which as we all know is a "good country", as destinct from all those "bad countries" you mentioned. You also said: "We haven't "birthed" any terrorists who weren't headed in that direction already". Are we more or less likely to be the victim of a terrorist attack now than before the war? Howard User: Clas @ Work
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| Day: 10 Message: Good points there, Jimbo and Tones. And for Bill, and his hunting for terrorists, I must re-post a cut from this Terry Jones satire; "Perhaps Mr Bush needs to wipe out everyone who could possibly be a future terrorist? Maybe he can't be sure he's achieved his objective until every Muslim fundamentalist is dead? But then some moderate Muslims might convert to fundamentalism. Maybe the only really safe thing to do would be for Mr Bush to eliminate all Muslims?" --- Steeve - well, I know, I've talked to Brett, the Eskimo Hitch-Hiker, he's in for a couple of songs too. I am lobbying this project now, as you said, Brett had a hell gathering the songs from us, it took some time. I guess this will be a late Fall release. W1P? - I'll check it out. --- So at this point in time we've got: Steeve Brett Roy Scam W1P? Howard Gina (that's right Gina?) --- This guy, "Oh no I am a Waitress again", is there someone out there knowing how to reach him? Ken Vogel? Stevie - are you in? If I forgot anyone, let me know. I tried to reach Miz Ducky and Hutch, and YESSS, how could I forget JW Malibu/JayDubz! Well, you'll find my email on the frontsite of this page, under the "Steely Knives" MP3-files. User: db
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| Day: 9 Message: Midnite Cruiser is probably busy at work right now, judgeing by all those ''liberated'' tyres i saw on the news last night. User: StevEEdan
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| Day: 9 Message: Hey everybody ... I got a great deal going on paintings and statues of Saddam Hussein ... but they're going fast ... in fact, ... Stev-I-e Dan ... nice to see you back around these parts. Even the lurkers are chiming in to welcome you. They all know me here now, but they all revere you. I hope all is well. This Steely Dan tour schedule(well, really, the chosen venues) is very peculiar. The Steely Fan Band once played the Orange County Fair, along with Peter Frampton, and The Three Dog Night. It sort of pains me (from a pride standpoint ... about D&W) that they are playing these kind of places. Let's see ... Steely Dan won 4 grammys a couple of years ago ... were inducted into the R'n'R Hall Of Fame last year ... played an entire series of sold out concerts in 2000 ... released a killer DVD/video from the start of their 2000 tour ... musicians and fans the world over have sung their praises consistently over the last 3 decades ... I just don't get it. And isn't it festival (general admission) seating at these shit-kicker fairs? I think St. Al might have a valid point saying that they might simply be avoiding the "ClearWater Monopoly" venues ... hard to say. How the HELL are we going to get decent bootleg recordings from these venues? I am simply perplexed. Just plain baffled. Clas ... regarding the compilation CD ... my band always has tribute Dan material ready for such a project, but I too agree that with the new CD about to be released and this tour (!?! ... again, what are they doing?), it is probably a good idea to wait a while to put it out. Besides, ask Schwinn ... he had to put back the deadline for submissions a few times, so there's probably no harm in trying to get a little interest at the present time ... just remember, that if it's you who spearheads this project, be willing to make some compromises and to adjust the deadline date ... just my 2 sheckels on the subject. I will let BwaySteve know about your project. I keep in touch with him. Best regards to all here at the guestbook. p.s.: Perhaps The Gorge is the best venue currently listed on the tour list ... to those of you who know the various venues listed, please let us know which ones you think would be the best places (based on sound quality and good vibes) at which to see them play. User:
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| Day: 9 Message: did i miss anything there ? i sure am glad that instead of yet ANOTHER cosmically originating omen regarding the gb, a demonic isp is to blame for this excrutiating nightly test of the ol' short term (which is apparently still kickin' ass if i do say so). i actually just last nite began printing the post before attempting to drop it... beerberian, just so happens that i listened to the cassandra wilson "blue light til dawn" just recently. for me, it falls into that happy category of "not sure what to call it". not unlike sd's music, in that it's not quite pure jazz or pop or rock. i enjoyed it even a bit more than i did on first listen. i still like her "blue skies" album on jmt from '88 the best and i have them all... User: angel
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| Day: 9 Message: I beat you, St. Al. I lost 2 posts in 2 days. Tones: I assume that was you, posting as the "sonic sunspot". :-) steviedan!!!!!!!!!! (third times a charm) Welcome back!!! Royscam!!!!!!!! (teasing me with a taste of what I have been missing) You too!!!! W1P: I made my train OK. MWAH!!! OK, does anyone know anything about the (uh) Orange County Fair? User: W1P
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| Day: 9 Message: OK C, I'm working on it with my band (and yes I have one). Click on "Homepage" above to see my band website. User: ¦ - the War's sorta over
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| Day: 9 Message: Bill: Yes, those pics dancing on the statue were reminiscent of the Fall of the Berlin Wall are worth 10,000 pages of rhetoric Jimbo: sarin, risin, additional nerve gases, missles tipped with chemical weapons, mustard gas, atropine, gas masks, caches of weapons in churches, mosques...see my previous posts for a small sliver of the total mount of citings in the media - I've already cited the tip of the iceberg regarding findings documented by the embedded journalists and others. Too long terrorism has been enabled since Munich - those days are over... Yeah, those Al Qaeda were just there in Iraq for the women... I hope that we will take the opportunity to address the Israel/Arab Palestinian conflict and continue moving towards independence without Arafat... 'til the sidewalks are safe for the little guy... User: Aja.................SSDD
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| Day: 9 Message: St. Al wrote: "please bare with....." Baring all as instructed. This IS a Steely Dan website, ya know. ;o) User: Descartes
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| Day: 9 Message: Hmnnnnn Terrorists attack the U.S. on 9/11 We vow to stop terrorism as a result Of all nations by far, Saudia Arabia provided the most 9/11 terrrorists We invade Iraq to stop terrorism I fail to see the logic in this, Bill. User: StAl
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| Day: 9 Message: Now I'm pissed. I just lost a whole post because my ISP can't stabilize this website! Needless to say please bare with while I beat on them to fix it. Bill: We'll just have to agree to disagree. Besides, I think it's important to keep our eye on the ball and focus on what brings us all here to begin with. Steely Dan is about to release a new disc and tour. There will be plenty of less controversial subjects to keep us entertained over the Summer. Besides, (and I'm not necessarily directing this at you) I'm tired of discussing the profound ignorance of much of the U.S. population. It's been a topic of conversation wherever I go and I'm sick (literally) of it. StAl User: tones
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| Day: 9 Message: You're right Bill, it wasn't just about the oil. It was also about billions of dollars in contracts to rebuild Iraq going to Republican party corporate donors. I was wrong. St. Al. - yep... been having trouble consistently for a couple of weeks. I thought you were just blocking my IP address... ;-) Konocti for sure! Sorry about that work sched though... later taters t User: Looeez
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| Day: 9 Message: St. Al - What a surreal concert experience! I attended this concert about 2 days post giving birth to my oldest daughter (which would make it April) and I was still very fuzzy headed (and have been since--kids do that to ya!) and on another planet physically, as anybody who has kids on the GB will atest to, even if you are the partner of the one who did the physical birthing. I remember it being ALOT of physical effort to go to this thing and wearing my coolest preggers outfit (Oh baby!), but I wouldn't have missed it for the world. My first real "date" post baby (and still mightily sleep deprived) BUT, I could actually have a beer! First one in a long while and it tasted like nectar of the gods! No depression for moi! What I remember is: VERY low attendance! (I remember taking alot of flak at work for attending because it was not considered "cool" AT ALL since there had been no new stuff in ages) SD had NOT released any new work in LONG TIME (at least 1/2 of the play list was was from Nightfly and Walter's solo record of the era (don't remember this one...sorry). Very confusing for fans who didn't follow their solo work. Also, Pontiac was the FIRST tour date of this particular tour and Donald was laughing hysterically through alot of the show and apologizing because of the "bugs that needed to be worked out." As I said, the accoustics were horrible so I never would have noticed any bugs...but, we all know what perfectionists these guys are...IN A GOOD WAY! Yeah, I bet I could find the ticket stub if I tried. I KNOW I kept it. User: Bill
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| Day: 9 Message: Pat, If I'm wrong tell it to the people dancing on Hussien's statue right now. Clas, User: Thank Alah
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| Day: 9 Message: St.Al.. No! We just birthed 10000 freedom fighters! User: Jimbo
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| Day: 9 Message: Even the newsstations that helped to invent the war still haven't brought up the alleged "weapons of mass destruction." Where are they? If they're not in Iraq, then it was all for nothing. Sure Saddam will be down for the count and he should be, but what about the friendly fire reports? Accidental deaths of U.S. soldiers. Accidental bombings of innocent civilians and allies. And here in our country, Arab-Americans discriminated based on their looks as well as their faith in Islam. Ick, I don't even want to hear that fucking Lee Greenwood song. Give me Ray Charles' "America" anyday. I'm switching to PBS and NPR. At least they're more objective. As StAl says, we've got a lot of shit to clean up in terms of making up with the world and recomitting ourselves to still use diplomacy. User: Beerberian
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| Day: 9 Message: Pat; It probably won't help BUT I think they play "ouds" in that part of the world - sorta like a pot bellied short necked guitar thingy User: And yes...
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| Day: 9 Message: ...I just came back from an excellent little mastering Studio, nice room, comfortable chairs, a sympathic Tech, awesome sound and an outstanding Espresso machine. I'd like to spend some time there this coming autumn so begin the Begun now, compose and record, get in contact with your creative inner souls. Yes, even you, W1P?, and your whole band of course. So, where the hell is Hutchie? And Fla Dave? /C User: StAl
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| Day: 9 Message: I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced difficulty reaching this website over the past few weeks? They performed some maintenance on the servers about 2 weeks ago and it seems ever since then the site goes dark intermittently. Anyone else experience this? Bill: I knew this day would come. I've tried to avoid political discussion for the last few weeks but not acknowledging your post would be akin to admitting you're correct. So, you've forced my hand. We won't know if "I was wrong" for years to come. As is typical with so many of your positions, you simply don't listen. You formulate your opinion based on the negative aspects of a contrary opinion. You're not stupid. However, you consistently seem to say really, really stupid things. Is it just to get a rise? If you really listened to my argument against action in Iraq you would have noticed my major bone of contention had to do with Bush-leaguers handling of the situation. It is my opinion that he's done more to hurt our relations with THE REST OF THE WORLD than was necessary. It started with Kyoto Protocol and has, hopefully, ended with this war. Bush and his staff failed miserably at diplomacy. As I said before he should have let the French take the lead on this one -- allowing for more time fore inspections while we continued with the military build up. As it is now it's a damn good thing the Iraqi's were so weak militarily. Otherwise those troops stuck in the Suez canal would have been a glaring reminder of our lack of patience around day 5... If you listened, you would have also heard that I believed Saddam had to be held accountable. After 17 resolutions and 12 years, it was obvious he was playing the world like a sitar, or whatever the fuck they play over there... Point is, had we waited another 6 months or so we could have held German, France and Russian feet to the fire at which point they would have had no choice but to support a "regime change." or whatever. In other words, numbskull, over time I would have supported action. However, now we have THE REST OF THE WORLD against us. Including Canada, Mexico (look on a map. They are our neighbors). That may not matter to an isolationist like you but it does to me. I care about what others think about the United States. And right now, for them, we're just a bully using it's power to satisfy it's lust for OIL. Oh, and unlike you. I won't gloat when the I'm proven right. See, death is never something to gloat over. Mark my words. We just birthed a 1000 Osama Bin Ladens. Unfortunately you're just not enough of a visionary to understand this concept. StAl User: C & W
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| Day: 9 Message: Bill, you're a discusting little piece of shit. You are sitting here joking, and people have died, even your fellow landsmen. Died. Do you understand that? And for throwing roses, the people threw roses when Hitler occupied Austria. Too late they understood they were victims for a giant propaganda machine. And for that matter, it was the Russians who defeated Hitler, not USA. This war in Iraq, we will know the truth about it in 5-10 years. When your gangster Regime is gone. User: Uh, Pat?
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| Day: 9 Message: They're celebrating in the streets of Baghdad Pat. Just over 2 weeks and it's practically over. Three little words will solve it all. Anybody for a late summer Steely Dan tour date in Baghdad? User: Moll
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| Day: 9 Message: Roy Scam, you're too funny...I laughed until my sides hurt. User: Moll
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| Day: 9 Message: Roy Scam, you're too funny...I laughed until my sides hurt. User: Howard
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| Day: 9 Message: I promise that one of these days, on one of the yet-to-be-released GB CDs, I will have something that is recorded in a half-decent manner on a PC or digital box of one sort or another, and doesn't suffer from tape hiss, dropout and all the other "bonus features" that analogue cassette (yes, cassette!) tape offers. As it is, I will no doubt be digging further into my archive of 8-track cassette mixes to come up with something that can then be tweaked and de-hissed before submission. Zappa's quote about polishing turds comes to mind. Sounds like the beginning of the end in Baghdad? "The government of Saddam Hussein appears to be disintegrating in Baghdad, with US troops expanding their control and looting breaking out in the eastern part of the city." According to BBC radio, this morning was the first morning when the information minister and the usual gang of minders did not show up to deal with foreign journalists. Howard User: Beerberian
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| Day: 9 Message: Anbody listen to this last night ? Branford Marsalis Presents... Great little vignette on the making of "Blue Light Til Dawn", Cassandra Wilson's early 90s hit... Going straight out to buy this one now !! Tupelo Honey ... oh man !! User:
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| Day: 8 Message: although the lower case thing may lead you to think otherwise, the "sonic sunspots" entry was not me... User: stevie back on the block
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| Day: 8 Message: one thing i wanted to mention last night was that over the last several months, i have not even checked e-mail. so if anyone sent me mail, it was automatically redissolved into electrons after a period of neglect. please forgive me, this medium just wasn't figuring in my life for that time... thus, sorry clas if i have released the m.o.a.t. (mother of all threads)... ... these days i'm trying to pay attention... or this could get dangerous... User: sonic sunspots
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| Day: 8 Message: Um, so my 5000-word-email just vannished out in the blue (sorry Hoops) then? I'll try the other one. Roy - you are damn funny, but you already knew that? --- Okay, as Roy Scam so sharp-minded pointed out for me on email, it maybe isn't such a good idea putting out a Yellow GuestBook CD at the same time as The Two are releasing their stuff, we wouldn't wanna switch focus from them to us, would we? After all, they are making a living on this shit so maybe we'll wait 'til September or October, or maybe later. But I have already started to lobby the musicians on the Steely Knives, those I can find the email-addresses of. Fla David's email bounced, Miz Ducky doesn't answer, not Hutch either. The guy who sang "Caves of Altamira", he seems to be without an emailaddress, does anybody know where he is? YGK? You're in? Steeve Dan? Stevie Dan? And Brett is in, and Gina too I guess? Well, everybody now, start compose. And after that; record the stuff. That's important, you have to record it. /C User: StAl
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| Day: 8 Message: Edd, Stevie, is see the natives are stirring. Don't be strangers, strangers. Speaking of strangers. Where is Midnight Cruiser? Looez: Did I miss the Steely Dan tour in 1988? But you're right. I really loathe those outdoor sheds. Once considered a great innovation, as other more unique venues like The Gorge, or the Pier (like we have in Seattle) gain footing, those "Bill Graham Presents" arenas are only a step above an indoor coliseum. So this year is going to be a tough one regarding the Steely Dan tour. Our company is opening two new stores back-to-back in the middle of the Summer. It's entirely possible I'll miss the Gorge show, although unlikely. But because of the time constraints, as well as financial constraints, the only other show I'm considering is Konocti Harbor. Are you ready Tones? We'll see... Clas: Regarding handles. Their usage for me is a bit of a legacy. Back in the olden days, long before the Internet was common place, we had Bulletin Board Services like AOL and CompuServe. AOL required the use of handles instead of your actual name. When Frank died, I chose Stalphonzo. It stuck. If you don't like it. Bite me. And by the way. I no longer use the stalfnzo@seanet.com address. Too much SPAM. StAl User: oleander
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| Day: 8 Message: EDD!!--yo. RS--you up for the DC show? I'm working on steviedan, fezo, & Hutch to converge--a la Mayo Island, no? Howard--nice. User: Looeez - venues--the good, the bad, and the smelly
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| Day: 8 Message: FYI Tour the Southlands? It seems that the majority of their venues (all of their venues?) are outdoors. Doesn't it thunderstorm almost every day or night in the summer south? My guess is summer touring is best done in the places that are on the list. Prior to Pine Knob, SD played some big indoor venues (Silver Dome, back in the day - '88?), and it sucked--not their fault or anything. Most indoors around here are just so bad accoustically. The best accoustic houses around here are the OLD theaters downtown, Detroit Opera House, Fox Theatre, etc. --talking turn of the century houses that were just built better in the 'ol days. Saw some live bluegrass (gasp!) there last year and was blown away at how precise and delicate the sound was. The mix was amazing. Unfortunately, July and August at Pine Knob (now DTE Energy Theatre) are People complain about sitting on the hill with the skeeters and possible rain, but these days, I go up on the hill for at least part of the concert even tho I've got seats. Between the smokers (tobacco), and the maintenance crew needing some overhauling...I get chased out of the seats. The concrete flooring in the ampitheatre is always wet and smells like old beer, cotton candy, and popcorn all soaked into your sandals. Not kidding, your shoes reek after coming home from that place. Don't dare lay a program-type thing or a jacket under your seat--Blecchh! My darling spouse and partners purchased a bunch of "seasons" seats last summer at DTE. The pickings for shows, with the exception of Santana, were certainly disappointing and slim. (Too many rap & hip hop groups...couldn't give the seats away!) However, I hear they are getting better concert bookings this year. Unfortunately, because of our experience last year, we already switched our season ticket business to Meadowbrook. (THIS IS THE VENUE SD SHOULD HAVE PLAYED...SMALLER, BUT MUCH BETTER ACCOUSTICALLY) Yup, we will be sweltering in August in Meeechigan. Another reason why Meadowbrook (why doesn't anyone ever consult me before booking these damn things?)...It's all heavily wooded (gorgeous) around the ampitheatre and seating. Makes it somewhat cooler than DTE usually is. It's cleaner and the vibe is just better in general. Thankfully, last year the "seasons" package included attendance to the little VIP tent they have there now. Nothing too fancy, but it is tented and cooled with shade and mist machines I believe? They have wait staff, full bar, and the food is really amazing! Anything your little heart could desire. (The only food at the venue outside of the tent would be overpriced ball park or, you guessed it, fairground-type food) IF you eat and drink there prior, you can also return to relax there AFTER the show--has a GREAT atmosphere...you can let the parking lot clear out while you relax. They serve hot and cold snacks, coffees, teas, etc., AFTER the concert also, kinda sober everybody up a bit while they chat and critique the concert. It's all in once price, about $20 pp, I think, which includes VIP parking. VIP parking is getting close to the entrance where the VIP tent is immediately THERE. It's a great place to sit out the warm up bands. Although, SD didn't have any warm-ups last go-round. Doubt they will have a warm up--ya think? Ah well, then again, this could be the cool part of the summer... User: Roy.Scam
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| Day: 8 Message: St. Al~ Loved your top 10 list, and felt compelled to draw attention to myself through lame imitation. Since Steely Dan will be playing State Fairs, a new venue for them, I have taken on the responsibility of fielding e-mail inquiries about the Dan and their music from the wide spectrum of state fair attendees. I can't answer them all, but here are my responses to the first few: To Dale, from Daytona: To Ed Earl, from Orange County: To Earlyne, from Phoenix: To Dupree, (address withheld): Thank you for the opportunity to help inquiring minds to know. User: C & W
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| Day: 8 Message: Edd! Garbage? It wasn't me. I'd like to send you Jan Garbarek. That's no Garbage. User: Edd
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| Day: 8 Message: If so, it was just garbage when it arrived. User: C:\
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| Day: 8 Message: This is a cut from the Independence, John Pilger: "Was this what they call "rich in history"? General Stanley Maude invaded Iraq in 1917 and occupied Baghdad. We repeated the performance in 1941 when the former prime minister Rashid Ali decided to back Nazi Germany. The British, Australians and Arabs "liberated" Damascus from the Turks in 1918. The Israelis occupied Beirut in 1982 and lived û not all of them û to regret it. Now the armies of America and, far behind them, the British û a pale ghost of Maude's army û are moving steadily into this most north-eastern of Arab capitals to dominate a land that borders Iran, Turkey, Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. As night fell, I came across three Iraqi defenders at the eastern end of the great Rashid Bridge.These three û two Baathist militiamen and a policeman û were ready to defend the eastern shore from the greatest army known to man. That in itself, I thought, said something about both the courage and the hopelessness of the Arabs." User: K Jerome
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| Day: 8 Message: Bill, you wouldn't know pot if you held it in your hands. User: C & W
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| Day: 8 Message: Good points there, LP and Howard. It's good to read some sense here. Gina - James Taylor is singing GAIA right now, isn't that great stuff uh! --- Pat/StAl (why do you guys have these stupid handles? Are you paranoid or what?), did you get my email? I don't know which address to use, I got two. Roy Scam? Miz Ducky? Hutch? We're talking about a new GBook CD here, come on now. If you don't want to talk to the Swede, email StAl about it, okay? User: Dano
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| Day: 8 Message: Message to Don and Walter , They do good deals on flights to the UK you know?? Stevie , Good tae see ya back Mancub. Dano. User: Bill
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| Day: 8 Message: LP, Sorry but I just wasn't sure why you focused you lazer beam on me for If this war thing gives you anymore headaches try this remedy; 1) Smoke a whole bunch of pot. (Hey it worked for us but we were pretty high at the time...) :) User: Cheech
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| Day: 8 Message: The Center- "We all used to get high"....Still do. User: Luckless Pedestrian at home
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| Day: 8 Message: hey bill - gees, so sensitive, stop that posting please... mu, i wish it was that simple, i wish i could say, yeah this is the right thing to do, but it really isn't a world where there are good guys and bad guys - i know something had to be done, but i can't get over the fact this was all pre-planned before bush was on the ballot by cheney and rumsfeld and the post war planning team was formed right after bush's inaugeration i think when the smoke clears, there will be serious shit coming out on us, and hopefully a great hope of a candidate will arise for 2004 we need a regime change User: Howard
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| Day: 8 Message: ¦ - the details I know of the ricin cases are different to what you wrote: First, ricin isn't a nerve gas - it's a naturally occuring poison that can kill in small doses. It's derived from castor oil plants Second, I have seen no evidence linking the ricin finds in the UK and France with Iraq. The only possible link I've seen is with Chechen terrorists: The three who were arrested after the UK find have connections with North Africa. On a different matter, you wrote (about the UN security council): "When ONE NO French vote can overrule the majority, that's NO democracy!!!!!!!!!!!" That's the way the security council works - the permanent members have power of veto. You can't complain about the principle just because one member uses the veto in a case that you disagree with. You either like the principle, or you don't. ... anyway, France has used the veto rather infrequently: 18 times in total. The US has used it 76 times! Does that make the US four times less democratic than France?!? Howard User: C @ Work
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| Day: 8 Message: It was hilarious watching Dick van Dyke stumbling around to the music of Heads, Hands & Feet. User: The Center For Marijuana Studies
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| Day: 8 Message: Before MTV existed (okay so I'm showing my age) we all used to Hence the folklore surrounding The Wizard Of Oz and Dark Side Of The Moon. User: t
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| Day: 8 Message: lp - like here for instance... you never know when or where... :-) Loved the NPR post btw... pretzel "logic" fer sure... Are you wearing orange? User: t
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| Day: 8 Message: ¦ - yeah buddy, I've taken that journey over the rainbow a couple of times now... with two different groups of friends. The first time was at a rather "electric" party... that made the "coincidences" even more plentiful and "cosmic", though it was kind of a letdown when the album ended halfway through the movie. So we tried starting Wish You Were Here right after, since it was the next consectutive album... held our interest for all of 5 minutes... But yeah, there's really something going on with the Dark Side of Oz. Btw, we found it works better if you start it right after the *third* roar. Still might do Dub Side of The Wiz someday, but I don't think I can stomach an hour of watching Michael Jackson right now, even the pre menace-to-society MJ. Peeps, I "highly" recommend Dub Side of the Moon if you like the irie vibration in your stereo. Sounds like a cheezy idea, but they put a lot of time and talent into getting it right. It smokes mon. --------------------------- I propose the federal government pay for the peace protests out of the war budget. Hell, we if we can afford to wage war we can afford to promote peace. That's where I want *my* tax dollars to go. pizzas t User: Bill
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| Day: 8 Message: LP, Why address your NPR post to me? Maybe another boob glitter post would be more your speed Anne? :) User: Oh no!
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| Day: 8 Message: Not that one again, Stevie, mcPartland's piano jazz has been killing us for months! Dr Mu will post tons about this now. Be ready to scroll the rest of the week folks. C:\ User: steviedan's 'nother thing
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| Day: 7 Message: i'm sure that there's already been discussion of this and i'll do the homework next time, i promise, but until earlier this evening i knew nada about this... i went to teach a a guitar/bass lesson to a friend as i always do on monday nite late. now this is really cool because i get paid to hang out and play, it's real informal and often others drop by to "audit" the lesson, so to speak. well, one of tonight's "auditor's" presented me with a copy of "steely dan on marian mcpartland's piano jazz (npr 02/03)". this is PARTICULARLY phat because i met marian mcpartland a couple of times when i was like 12-13... is this just universal knowlege to all of you (the program, that is) ? if not, i've got the songlist and personel... User: steviedan inbredded....... er... imBEDded
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| Day: 7 Message: as many may wonder, yes there was an epiphany, a moment of clarity, a sign from god if you will, that i would do the prodigal thang with the gb... oh several weeks ago, horatio sanz was playing saddam hussain to jimmy fallon's osam bin laden and in their candid phonecall ("man, you bustin' my balls, man", etc.), in what i believe was a totally improvisational moment, "saddam" sez to "osama", "BRO', YOU GOT MORE [somethings i don't remember] THAN STEELY DAN HAS ALBUMS !". jimmy seemed somewhat befuddled by this (hence my prior suspicion) but retorted, "YEAH WHADDA THEY GOT, LIKE TWELVE ?"... in that instant i felt as if a higher power wanted this related to the gb... and now i have... catharsis ROCKS ! User: Fmeh!
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| Day: 7 Message: FlaDavid - where are you? In the Sanibel Island? Email me on the above address, take out the you know what. C:\ User: The Great Gig in the Sky
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| Day: 7 Message: Mu -- balanced on the biggest wave . . . . User: ¦
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| Day: 7 Message: People who dissent are not unpatriotic, but I certainly hope they donate copious to the police and fire fighter funds to pay for the blocking of traffic in the northwest and San Fran, costing millions... "Alright, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are The UN Security Council passed a resolution (1441) demanding Saddam to disarm NOW OR ELSE in addition to 17 previous resolutions enforcing the cease fire "We are going to wage war to The UN has been historically inneffective at preventing wars and resolving conflicts in general. The UN had the opportunity to avoid war against Saddam by insisting that Saddam disarm or else once the inspectors arrived. The object was for Saddam to present and fully disclose his WMD. The purpose was to stop Saddam from continuing to manufacture WMD and continguin to train terrorists. No, we are not protecting the UN (thaat is their responsibility) as much as the US, Israel, Iraq's neighbors and Europe (risin nerve gas has been found in both England and France courtesy of Iraq). The idea of severing sources of support and WMD supplied by Iraq from terrorist is the safety of civilized societies (i.e., prevention of another 9/11). If chem or bio or dirty nukes were deplyed, the source would be untraceable. In other words, a smoking invisible gun Perhaps France should think twice before stabbing colin Powell, our best negotiator in the back. France, Russia, and Germany have primarily had their economic and interests in VIOLATION of UN resultions to protect. Saddam did NOT take the UN seriously - THAT"S exactly why force became a necessary evil...Everything Must Go "Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend." Except for the Revolutionary War, Civil War, Americans entering WWI after Wilson hid his Nobel Peace Prize and realized the Kaiser was on a roll without intervention, WWII, and the recent tallywacking of the Taliban you are correct... NPR should have told Clinton that re: Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti, Aspirin Factory, 350 Cruise missles into Baghdad ALL WITHOUT EVEN ONE UN RESOLUTION! "Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to visciate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor bound" When ONE NO French vote can overrule the majority, that's NO democracy!!!!!!!!!!! "to do that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to gobbledygook That's what some elements of the left and France should have done during the inspections!!!!!... and then Saddam may have been forced out as he saw ironclad opposition against him...but NOOOOOOOOO...the news on CNN was Saddam's comfort this winter...All we needed was 5 inspectors and a stretch of desert - show us your weapons! However, Blix and the Inspector Clouseaus did not insist and never would have found the mountains of WMD evidence that are piling up now: risin and other nerve agents, mustard gas, gas masks, atropine...and that's just a tip of the iceberg: http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/06/wpois06.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/06/ixnewstop.html http://www.canada.com/national/features/iraq/story.html?id=2CEEEE95-DB20-42C0-912F-332ECED238DE http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47645-2003Apr7.html http://www.jsonline.com/news/gen/apr03/131713.asp User: W1P -- a fair forgery of Pink Floyd
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| Day: 7 Message: As promised, A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd has finally been released and is available to the general public. Click on "Homepage" above or go to http://www.stanleyrecordings.com/pinkfloyd.htm AFFoPF features 30 tracks by 29 different artists including The Mike Keneally Band (Mike was with Frank Zappa and tours with Steve Vai), Graham Parker, Quetzal, and, of course, Which One's Pink? (Dogs and What Shall We Do Now?). I look forward to everyone's reaction to this project. User: llllllllllpppppppppppp
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| Day: 7 Message: WWWOOOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SYRACUSE ROCKS, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KISSES TO WARD... User: Aussie
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| Day: 7 Message: LuckLess Pedestrian: Are you watching the Orange? Far from over but I can barely contain myself. Steviedan: Holy smokes! Welcome back brother. Everything Must Go. Even the carnies at these State fair gigs. The clash of the wonderwaifs and the bucktoothed tilt-a-whirl operators. Should make for fascinating interactions at pre-concert medication gatherings outside the gates. Aus User: Peter Jennings
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| Day: 7 Message: Secret Bids ABCNEWS has obtained a copy of a 99-page contract "We have never in our 40-year history spent this much The USAID contract is filled with details about plans to æLimitations of CompetitionÆ But other details are being shielded by the USAID, "It's the scope and breadth that, I think, has made Normally, USAID puts out contracts on the Internet, and any company can bid. Among the companies believed to be bidding are Bechtel, Fluor, Parsons, the All are experienced. But in addition, all are generous political donors ù British troops are serving alongside U.S. troops in Iraq. But the Also left out were international development groups, which historically have "They must have ownership over this full development process," said Mary ABCNEWS' Jackie Judd contributed to this story. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/World/iraq_rebuilding_contract030322.html User: Luckless Pedestrian at home
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| Day: 7 Message: sorry bill, call me unpatriotic, but this little ditty from NPR sums up my uneasiness with this mess (long post, oops, no URL, sorry!): From NPR's All Things Considered Alright, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the UN cannot be ignored. We are going to wage war to preserve the United Nation's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to visciate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor bound to do that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by democracy, as they define it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home we cannot afford dissention among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people and if our people and people elsewhere in the world fail to understand that then we have no choice but to ignore them. Listen, don't misunderstand, I think it is a good thing that the members of the Bush administration have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish that someone had pointed out that Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like "We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace", but not amusing for someone who actually commands an army to say that. As a collector of laughable arguments, I would be enjoying all this if not for the fact that I know, we all know that lives are going to be lost in what amounts to a freak circular reasoning accident. User: db
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| Day: 7 Message: D&W are punnishing me for my crap post's thinking of calling new baby...Eagle Butterfield has a nice ring to it. User: t
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| Day: 7 Message: snakie - I think I've seen them on the menu, but I don't recommend them. I don't think they've changed the oil in the deep fryer since the joint opened. Everything tastes like possum... User: lp
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| Day: 7 Message: exactly my point, sh! ;p User: tones
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| Day: 7 Message: Finally listening to the Dub Side of the Moon... it's pretty amazing! You can tell they spent a lot of time getting the mix right. Can't wait to get home and sync it up to The Wiz... User: sh
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| Day: 7 Message: lp - i don't think any hard core fan would think of any songs as "deep cuts"...we listen to all of them, don't we? maybe some more than others...but as far as radio play, the only SD stuff i ever hear on the radio is Reelin', Do It Again, Rikki, Peg, Hey 19, Josie, Deacon Blues and every once in a while Babylon Sisters... tonesy - speaking of the Roadkill Cafe and Car Wash...where's that Rude Waitress? and do ya think they've got funnel cakes there? User: Dept. of Mis-information:
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| Day: 7 Message: Sorry... looks like it's about *2* 1/2 hours from the Bay Area: http://www.konoctiharbor.com/ So we leave a little earlier... grab a lottamochajava for the road... User: yet more reasons for a state fair circuit
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| Day: 7 Message: 13. people dancing in the aisles isn't a problem when you have to watch where you step. 12. Walter Becker has always wanted to say "ain't she a purty one, Donald?" 11. who needs a steely dan when you are surrounded by sheep? User: bonus reason:
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| Day: 7 Message: Kick off your high heeled shit-kickers, it's party time. Yeeeeeeeeeehaw! User: StAl
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| Day: 7 Message: Top Ten Reasons for the "State Fair Circuit" 10. Funnel Cakes and Elephant Ears. 9. To avoid Clear Channel sheds. 8. To hear all the Steely Dan purists whine. 7. Walter and Donald feel the need to get closer to the common folk. 6. Walter actually belongs to Manhattan chapter of 4H, and can enter his prize pig in fairs all over the country. 5. Why the hell not? 4. Chicago is slated to open and their itinerary was already booked. 3. After the 2000 shows the band has decided they need at least 50 yards between the stage and the first row? 2. More money 1. Funnel Cakes and Elephant Ears! User: Aja@idontlikemondays
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| Day: 7 Message: All these state fairs-it's the Steely Dan and livestock tour! The perverse possibilities abound........ Back to these boring expense reports. User: W1P
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| Day: 7 Message: Paige, I should have posted the info but Which One's Pink? actually performed live on KTYD on Friday morning at about 9:30 a.m. (Well, it was only Paul (our bassist/Roger) on acoustic guitar and Larry on keyboards doing Breathe and Have A Cigar plus a little bit of Shine On as a "bumper" That clip you heard in the SoHO commercial was Young Lust recorded live at the House of Blues in July 2001. Our show in Santa Barbara went quite well despite the four separate instances of total power failure on stage. The band was well received and we believe the owners would like us back. We'll keep you posted. In the meantime, A Fair Forgery will soon be available on CD Baby -- I will post the info when it becomes available. I think the Dan should cover XTC's Peter Pumpkinhead based on that cartoon, eh? User: Aja.................catching up on my lurking
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| Day: 7 Message: Of course, what else? Sorry folks, but Konocti Harbor isn't anywhere near Lake Tahoe. There are some nice wineries in the area, though. Looks like I'll be in for Jones Beach, since that seems to be the only decent place for a Danfest. The Gorge is out for me-I have a half Ironman triathlon the next day and don't think some of the party favors on the engorgement tour are on my list of approved training supplements. User: lp
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| Day: 7 Message: snakehips has a good question: what constitutes a "deep cut" on a steely dan release? can you ask a hard-core fan of any band that question without being swatted for it? User:
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| Day: 7 Message: Funnel cakes. User: Aja...............is it Friday yet?
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| Day: 7 Message: Konocti Harbor is where my company has its annual retreat-it bills itself as a resort, but it's kinda cheesy (Wayne Newton plays there). The countryside around it is beautiful, but it's also quite a haul to get there (long, windy road into the Sierra Foothills taking ). Temperatures will be in the 90's in July. Steely Dan is really playing there? What's with this State Fair circuit? User: YGK
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| Day: 7 Message: Aus: where shall I send your disc? 's all done........... ygk User: Did anyone read...
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| Day: 7 Message: ...Donna Tartt's second novel, what's that title again?* "The Little Friend"? Is it as good as her first Novel, "The Secret Story"? C:\ PS/ *David Lindley! That's his name. The guy who used to play with Jackson Browne. User: t
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| Day: 7 Message: snakie - yep! Come on out and we'll stock up the cooler and drive through the Road Kill for take out... oh yeah... We've got to stop by the airport and pick up Karen and Ole... :-) User: Flyer Tuck
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| Day: 7 Message: It sure is Snakehips, springtime. If you listen close, you can hear JayDubz sing: -Looking down at the road / rushing under my knees... while he's skateboarding along Venice Beach. C:\ User: sh
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| Day: 7 Message: tones darling - only 1 1/2 hours from your house to Konocti Harbor? Hmmmm... ¦ - "Lieberman is the only viable candidate left for '04 - but he's gonna need a massive B12 shot..." No, no, no it's Joe Biden. he's the man - just waiting for him to announce it... this week is Steely Dan week on the classic rock station here...someone called in and actually requested what i consider a "deep cut" for radio play..."Royal Scam"...at least i got to listen to that as i drove through a blizzard on the way to work this morning...it's Spring, right? User: Gina
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| Day: 7 Message: hey!!!! STEVIEDAN :-) major smile your way!!! tourdates as well, nice to open cyberlines and see all this in DanFanland :-) User: Well I...
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| Day: 7 Message: ...am talking deep south,Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, do they play Florida? Good you're back Stevie, I went looking for the October Road CD here at work, and I found it! And it sure sounds like a Steely Dan babe-choire: "love forever and ever must stand." And Halleluja and Praise the Lord, there's so many good musicians on that album, Steve Gadd, Landau, Mounsey... I'll bring it home for a closer listening, tonite. Thanx Stevie! C:\ User: t
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| Day: 7 Message: Jono - I believe Konocti Harbor is about an 1 1/2 hours northeast of the Bay Area at Clearlake. I hear it's a nice venue. stevied - Glad to hear things are well. Missed ya big time... later t User: steviedan
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| Day: 7 Message: god help you all... i'm back... User: stevie the red-necked one...
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| Day: 7 Message: 10-4 good buddy, this here's ol' stevie on the cb callin' the "swedish meatball"... whut's yer 20 there good buddy... [sound of tobacco spittle hits here] matter of fact, them dan-boys have brought their convoy of big rigs down here (raleigh, nc) for EACH and EVERY reunion, or rather re-CONFEDERATION tour. according to the good ol boys round these parts, they's coming down the mountain agin this time to the local shed. but do tell, we'd rather they come to the state fair cause we rednecks are also down with livestock and big-wheel truck battles. d&w would make a mite-tee fine tag team wrasslin' duo. tickets would be a HELL of alot cheaper... down here we call that a win-win sitch-e-ation... User: the so-called fodder on steviedan
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| Day: 6 Message: i hit the daylight savings time thing just right this time. see that was the problem with this last year sans posts. i really have missed you crazy bastards. in the interim, the large planet i was teaching music at did a well-deserved big bang, so i brought the party home with me. providence has delivered me to the crib, teaching fulltime, still doing steady gigs (shades of "what a shame about me" here), and i've gotta tell you... it's great ! donald & walter oversee all music lessons from their very large position on the wall, scrutinizing PARTICULARLY the drum students as all my drummers must face d&w while the duo merely loom over string players and guitarists. some things never change... i hope you are ALL well. i have only skimmed a couple of days but i still feel the familiar rhythms... the jazz and conversation, the sturm und drang, a nice hawaiian punch, fanaticism, lunacy, s&m, c&w (swedish-style) and of course lately and fully expected, a spate of mucho insulto politico... as usual, i lean to the musical... dennis chambers new one. anyone got it ? heard it ? i'm looking... but in an unprecedented move(!), i am naming it the re-inaugural "steviedan-album-of-the-week" (TM) without even HEARING the m.f. now THAT is the kind of bold shit i'm sure that you've been missing ! there's also a new solo fingerstyle guitar cover of "josie" by peter huttlinger on his "naked pop" album. this guy is apparently a big time award-winning player and this is supposed to be badass... i guess we'll see... User: C & W
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| Day: 6 Message: Stevie, there you are, again. Interesting. Taylor is saying "I just listened to things and tried to recreate them...". I think that's an essential part of create art. You have seen, heard, read something... you have it in the back of your mind, and when you try to recreate it, it becomes your own stuff. User: Goodmoooorning Baghdad!
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| Day: 6 Message: Hi Stevie. Did you ever find the device for changing midi-numbers on your DX7? Oh yes, you did, I remember. --- How come, and I am pretty serious, and curious, that the Steely Dan never tours the Southlands, such as New Orleans and such subtropical places? Is it the heat, or the atmospheric humidity? Or those nasty rednecks? /C User: short stories by steviedan
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| Day: 6 Message: first in a series (or "steady as she scrolls") nonfiction guitar world acoustic: there's one point in "on the 4th of july" when the singers come in with the lyric "love forever and ever must stand." which for some reason puts me in mind of steely dan. james taylor: well, that has a very close four-part clustered harmony; it's got a lot of rub in it as it falls down through those changes that is very steely dan. donald fagen and walter becker were a huge influence on me, too. gwa: would you go so far as to say that the preponderance of major sevenths, minor sevenths, suspensions and that kind of thing in your music is related to your interest in steely dan ? jt: who knows ? since i didn't take lessons or anything, my guitar style sort of developed in a vacuum. i just listened to things and tried to recreate them. early on i would put changes together and find the appropriate bass note, and then just look for the ascending harmony in the chord. basically, i sort of fall into these little "wheels" that i end up bending into other things. a melody and a verbal cadence will happen in that context. the elements are very simple - i'm no virtuoso, i very seldom go out of first position. i mostly play to accompany, to suggest an arrangement. there'll be a piano part in what i play, there'll be internal movement and a very distinct bass line. and that's how i use the guitar... User: Jono
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| Day: 6 Message: wow, no Hollywood Bowl / l.a. area show.... Gotta be 2nd leg... otherwise thats weak... SoCal so far gets the Orange County fair?!?! Mid -State fair?!?! -Jono :) User: GlobalWarmingConferencecancelledduetoSnow
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| Day: 6 Message: Mutton eaten by Good King John linked to higher earth temps : http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/06/nclim06.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/06/ixhome.html User: StAl
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| Day: 6 Message: Sure hope there's a second leg announcement soon, otherwise many of you folks are going to be hittin' the road this Summer... August 2nd. It's gonna be hotter than Bill at an Earth First rally. Ticket Exchange will be reactivated. Make sure you're signed up for the appropriate Danfest list at http://www.dandom.com/danfests/. Let the fun begin! StAl User: fiferoni
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| Day: 6 Message: ah spring is upon us, 15 cm of snow and freezing rain, threat of flooding and damaged property; though its bright and sunny in my world, the stanley cup playoffs are starting, my team is the best in the league and Steelydan is coming to Toronto right on schedule. Whoohoo so let it f***ing snow and freeze rain nothing can dampen my spritits now. User: Aussie
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| Day: 6 Message: LuckLess Pedestrian: Syracuse Orangemen in the NCAA final! A harbinger of greater things to come to Syracuse my little lovie. Love, User: guavagirl
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| Day: 5 Message: In the midst of madness....to the children I want to remind them of their spirit... Listen my children, and you shall hear, May you quake in the rumble of a lion's roar. May you never lose sight of the condor's flight, The crocodiles' plight has a story for you, But man's dischord surely will have it's own way. So take heart, when you make a decision, dear child, Guavagirl Peace User: ¦
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| Day: 5 Message: Steely Dan and cotton candy. What's Leg II - 5 nights in Branson, MO? OR Real occasions on Phase II, perhaps? Beacon or Carnegie? Perfoming Arts Centers? Hard to get guys like Potter back for circus life...at least they're on the road!!! User: Button of the week:
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| Day: 5 Message: Never give up on your dreams. It gives you something to do while rolling joints. User: Moll
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| Day: 5 Message: King of the World, it's okay Sugarman! I'm just glad you didn't lose your PC to a nasty virus. ;) I like sending the e-cards and notes...although it doesn't go well with my Devil's Incarnate image lmao....Quite a few people that I love are currently in Iraq. My baby brother is an Airborne Ranger. A good friend of mine and my older brother are both Navy Pilots. I have been sick with worry for their safety. They tell me they knew from the beginning that was what they signed up for. They took the money, etc...I know they are all well trained, but that is little comfort. I have been opposed to the war in Iraq. I have expressed my opinions on the matter both here on the Guestbook and in letters to various Legislators.IMO All a Politician understands is votes.Due to the threat of another terrorist attack, I have avoided being in a large gathering( like a protest rally) Moreover, I have been very busy trying trying to Lobby for funds that have been cut in Social programs to pay for this mess. The Elderly and disabled are targeted because they essentially can not fight back. Most in Nursing facilities don't vote anyways. Alas,so far President Bush has not phoned wanting my approval on the matter. If writing about my views continually on here would change things, then I too would post messages about it. Take care M User: king of the world
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| Day: 5 Message: Great Joni Mitchell docu on PBS. They seemed to go out of their way to neglect "Hissing of Summer Lawns", though, my favorite. Aug 8, Chicago... Will have to distract self that day. Too galling that i can't go. Otherwise, can't find anything to comment on here on this page. I wonder if there are any other SD message boards, besides this and Blue Book. Hi Molly. Address Book ran off with the UPS guy. They now have several very brown children. (Those uniforms run.) That'd be why I didn't answer e-cards. I hear we're at war. Hmmmm. User: Jimbo
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| Day: 5 Message: What! No Pittsburgh date, yet? Groan. Anyway, I just bought the Beatles Anthology at Best Buy online for 48 bucks. If you want a good bargain and you love the Beatles, today could be the last day to get the anthology at that price. User: June
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| Day: 5 Message: Ward - why, it's been so long... Yes, the fairgrounds, midway, cotton candy - it's all good sigh User: t
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| Day: 5 Message: omg... I saw the handle and my eyes replaced the 'i' with an 'e' thinking maybe the two ee version had mistyped his name... ...or maybe the stuff's just getting better... Either way, Welcome Back my 'ie' friend! Ho cakes are on me... User: oleander
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| Day: 5 Message: steviedan--YO!! yes, plus ca change.... SO glad to see you. At this point the nearest the tour gets to us is DC--you up for a road trip? We can pick up fezo, Hutch, and the Scam on the way! Mu--I'm there. Picked up Dylan tickets this am. At least HE's showing up in my town. User: t
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| Day: 5 Message: I have a serious question for you right-leaning posters out there: maybe I was busy changing my diaper and missed it, but what exactly did Hilary Clinton do to piss all of you off? I want specifics here (no "the woman doesn't know her place" crap), becuase I honestly don't remember her doing anything to cause so much bile being directed toward her. My mind is open... thanks t User:
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| Day: 5 Message: Oh and don't forget Jones Beach fans... Neil Young and Crazy Horse 6/29/03 (tickets on sale monday 4/7/03) James Taylor 7/3/03 User: Bill
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| Day: 5 Message: Any news on when tickets go on sale? I'm not sure what the Reno venue is like but the Lake Tahoe area is User: t
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| Day: 5 Message: First off... real honest to goodness TOUR DATES!!! Awesome, except they seem to be avoiding the Bay Area like the (clearchannel) plague... time to get that tune-up... -------------------------- now to take out the trash: Borred - Main Entry: dis+in+gen+u+ous Pretty much sums up *your* post, doesn't it? Oh btw, Rush called... he wants his catch-phrases (circa 1994) back... ya loser... lol... t User: ¦
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| Day: 5 Message: and now, the rest of the story: "UPDATE ON THE NEW CD The U.S. release date for The reason, we understand, has to do Perhaps that 4th Infantry Division will be oredered to invade AOL Time Warner Without Ted Turner Whatever "We are also given to understand that there There's not much future left, even on that Steely Dan calendar - just what month is it there? "We've also DVD-A? a Bonus or hidden track? yeah, right...why not a second CD with ALL the outtakes?!!! EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!!! "it's all rather a mystery Better the mushroom effect than a mushroom cloud Carter is great at building houses, but not capital, nor a nukyoolar-free world (N. Korea thanks you!) Lieberman is the only viable candidate left for '04 - but he's gonna need a massive B12 shot... User: hoops
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| Day: 28 Message: Reminder: SueDave is hosting a Seattle Danfest centering around a show by Larry Carlton. Go SueDave! Beerberian is also having a Danfest May 3 BE CERTAIN TO SIGN UP for the SEATTLE & UK Danfest Mailing lists to get updates on these events. Check outà http://dandom.com/danfests ---OR--- CLICK THE "HOMEPAGE" LINK AT THE TOP RIGHT OF THIS POST. àfor a complete listing of local Danfest/Dan Fan lists in your area. Sign up early and often for the lists in your favorite areas. Hundreds of people already signed up, etc., etc. jim User: StAl
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| Day: 28 Message: Listen up all drummers! A world record is going to be set this weekend in Tacoma Washington. Apparently Alan White (Yes), Bun E Carlos (Cheap Trick), Michael Shrieve (Santana), Michael Dozier (Heart) and as many as 200 other drummers are converging on the local Tacoma Narrows Airport in an attempt to break the Guinness record for most drummers/drum kits in a single performance. It's to be conducted by Gerard Schwartz (Conductor of the Seattle Symphony) and is sure to be heard as far away as Portland Oregon... You people wonder what we do with all this rain and coffee? StAl User: steelydoubt
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| Day: 28 Message: oh yeah! i feel stupid now because i used to watch that show with my cousin when i was little. User: Moll
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| Day: 28 Message: Steely Doubt, The little alien, Alf had a love of cats. They were a favorite snack of his. I suspect it was a double entendre... The TV show was way before your time babe. How's my favorite Nephew? Hope all is well with you. *hugs* User: StAlphonzo
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| Day: 28 Message: Jono: Go back a page or two and see me getting beat up over my love for Phish. Some people JUST DON'T GET IT... I mean, what more can you ask of a band than one who's drummer plays the vacuum cleaner, wears a dress and sometimes performs in a lighted cape while singing Suspicious Minds? God I love rock and roll... Tones: My pancakes are so light and fluffy brown, why, they're the finest in the town! I told my wife about the Cat Shake idea. She didn't think it was too funny. And I have a Kitchen Aid blender... User: thirdworldman
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| Day: 28 Message: Long time no see How's everyone? Not enough controversy around here. Where is Dano? Can't wait till the next one Al User: Beerberian
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| Day: 28 Message: Ladies & Gents I believe that Mr DB is trying to convey the joyous tidings of the fact that Mrs DB is heavy with child !!! Congratulations indeed to all involved ......... Yeah Lindy is up the duff !!! User: Jono
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| Day: 27 Message: Aja - good call - I just had the urge to put in 2vN today out of the blue after not listening to ANY Steely music in probably 4-5 months (been all caught up in Phish lately! Any Phish fans in here?) Great shit!! And Bob beat me to the punch - The Steely Damned play an awesome version of Jack of Speed - sweet!! I don't know if I've heard ya play Coz Dupree yet... So, whats the name of this other tribute band that plays Janie and What a Shame? That sounds cool - where are you guys located? How about West of Hollywood or Almost Gothic? I think those are awesome songs and somewhat underrated. Almost Gothic is my fav off the album... Anyone else a huge fan? Its just so sexy and smooth... (hint hint! Bob, Peg, are you hearing me? :) When are you guys gonna play the Catamaran again btw? Its been too long... ) Oh and one last ting - I got the Nightfly DVD Audio today and its great - The IGY is mixed SOOOO nice - I'm hearing parts of that song I didn't even know existed.... Not as nice as the Gaucho DTS but definately nice for any surround sound audiophile... I think Steely is the perfect way to showcase 5.1 music - there are so many differnt parts and sounds and each one gets the proper treatment in the 5.1 mixes. Really good stuff. Anyone else pick this up yet? Okay, take care everyone - nice to be back and say 'Hi'. Lookin' forward to a very Steely 2003 indeed! Woohoo!!! :) -Jono :) User: t
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| Day: 27 Message: Thanks e. User: OsamaMamaBahama
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| Day: 27 Message: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/28/1048653833092.html User: steelydoubt
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| Day: 27 Message: Who did what with the cat? User: e
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| Day: 27 Message: tones, i saw the link to the new steely dan article at the blue book. it's http://www.rockdaily.com/rd_profile/1,1164,WTKW,00.html < did you see that the blue book is doing a decade of dandom tribute band cd? huh. i wish bush would stop using the word 'regime' i'm sick of it. maybe if we reminded him 'regime' is a french word he'd stop using it. i really hate it when the gb won't me sign it, says i don't have fields filled in when i do. have used ie, ns, aol even. i know this place is hard work st al but thought you should know in case i'm not the only one. User: W1TributeBand?
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| Day: 27 Message: I have a really bad reggae tribute to Floyd. I dont have Dub Side but all "vibrations" from the Pink Floyd world are very "positive mon" (and they were reviewed in Rolling Stone, how that happened, I'll never know). I must acquire Dub Side for my Floyd tribute collection -- but first I must focus on trying to offset some of my substantial losses in producing "A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd" User: t yet again...
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| Day: 27 Message: angel - hey there to you too! Can you help me out here... where's that interview you mentioned? I went to the ODP but I could find nary a word... and I don't use the word "nary" lightly... :-) User: t
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| Day: 27 Message: Hey Tribute Band - have you heard about The Dub Side of the Moon? It's a dub reggae version of Dark Side... and is apparently really good. Haven't been able to get it myself yet... Also, Dark Side... was released as a 30th anniversary SACD/CD hybrid this week. just so's ya know... User: tones
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| Day: 27 Message: St. Al - Yeah, I kinda figured out a long time ago you were probably a Zappa fan. I mean, if I were ever fortunate enough to take you up on your offer of hospitality, I'd be *mighty* disappointed if you didn't serve pancakes for breakfast... Gina!! - hello there!! Thanks for the great info... And Howard - thank you too for the great link! I've got lots of listening to do... I miss Frank terribly -especially these days. If only he would've/could've been elected president... Randy - yeah, Aja's pretty awesome... but I thought *I* was your favorite poster... t User: Borred of Hate
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| Day: 5 Message: t, you are more disingenuous than can be believed. Just another whining diaper clad Lib who can't see anything even remotely resembling the center. Worse though, even when you do, you deny it because you just can't give the Right one inch. Read Hillary, Daschle, Jackson(s), etc. Snappy lines, but no content as was previously noted by someone who does have some substantial "bona fides" and intelligence. User: Aussie
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| Day: 5 Message: LuckLess Pedestrian: Dear June, my love. Jones Beach is a no brainer. But Syracuse could be a wonderful get-together. Let me know. Love love love, Ward User: Looeez
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| Day: 5 Message: Anybody been to the Tahoe venue? What's it like? Thinking about planning for that show additionally... Wow, this is the best news all weekend...there is a God. Praise the Lord and pass the...er...amunition! Right! User: Luckless Pedestrian, with coffee and kashi
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| Day: 5 Message: okay, so who's in for boston, new hamster, new jersey, saratoga and can you dig it, syracuse jim# and steviedan - maybe the tour dates below will bring back people we've missed thanks anon happy saturday - it's snowing up here! User: Katy
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| Day: 5 Message: The Band - "KatieÆs Been Gone" A lilting, sweet-sad Robertson-Manuel song first heard on The Basement Tapes ù and subsequently on the 1994 Across the Great Divide box set ù this is almost certainly one of several Hawks demos cut at CBSÆs Studio E in New York in September 1967. (John Simon thinks these sessions may have been produced by former Motown staffer Mickey Stevenson, co-writer of 'Dancing in the Street'.) Since the drumming sounds very unlike Levon Helm ù John Simon has said it might be ace New York sessioneer Gary Chester ù the track suggests that these demos were cut before he rejoined the Hawks. (Historical footnote: Did the title of Steely DanÆs album Katy Lied come from this song?) User: It's a Memphis train..train no# 1 gone..train#2is gone..train#3 has been gone..how long must i wait for you
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| Day: 5 Message: Paige..yeah buddy ummagumma" BB..25 five miles & my all time favorite "agent double 0 Soul" Guavagirl..the crush of the crowd played yesterday George Kahn..Midnight Brew.."swiss cheese"(new) Ramsey Lewis.."the in crowd"(live at the bohemian cavern washington, d.c may 1965) Eddie Harris..lp the electricfying Eddie Harris.."listen here" Jimmy Witherspoon.."when the lights go out" Sonny Boy Williamson.."bring it on home" Muddy Waters..'i'm ready" Rufus Thomas.."did you ever love a woman" Larry Coryell..'inner urge" The Crusaders..Rural Renewal.."creepin"(new) Bobby Darin.."guys and dolls" Woody Herman.."king cobra" Dave Brubeck Quartet..Park Avenue South.."show me the way to go home"(new) Lee Morgan.."the rajah" Bruce Barth..Live At The Village Vanguard.."star eyes"(new) Joe Turner.."Life Ain't Easy..plant your garden.."this must be the place..lets get to woik..lady lookin out of the window...you want your weeds cut down..everything is going to be alright...i'll weed your garden..baby Less De Merle..HittinThe Blue Notes Vol 1.."sidewinder" Sarah Vaughan..Swingn' Easy.."you hit the spot" Stephane Grappelli/Mc Coy Tyner..'how high the moon" Michel Petrucciani..Solo Live.."looking up/beasme mucho" Jimmy Scott.."jealous guy" Stefon Harris..The Grand Unification Theory.."the velvet couch/morph/corridor of elusive dreams" Donald Harrison jr. .."coolin" Stanley Turrentine..lp Look Out.."little sheri" John Lee Hooker..'house rent boogie" Leroy Jones..back to my roots.."parlor for the crawlers" Arnett Cobb.."party time" Rickie Lee Jones.."up a lazy river" Bobby Darin..up a lazy river" Willie Dixon User: Beerberian
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| Day: 5 Message: Bad S; AND EUROPE ?????????????? I feel a need to Visit Golden in August tho LOL User: bad sneakers
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| Day: 5 Message: TOUR ANNOUNCED !!!!! Announcing [Leg I] Date Location / Venue 7/23 Costa Mesa, CA / Orange County Fair ** All Dates are subject to change ** - Additional dates for Sept-Oct [Leg II] are currently - Information about ticket on-sale dates can be tracked I will be there (haven't decided where yet) - Get those Dan fests planned !!!! User: db
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| Day: 5 Message: head's up everyone User: sorry...
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| Day: 5 Message: ...my proof reader went home early... User: toe-nz
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| Day: 5 Message: Thanks For the history lesson Bill... Jeez, I was depressed enough as it was... I kinda like to remember Jimmy Carter as the only president in my lifetime who didn't lie to us (as far as we know... I'm not *that* nieve...), didn't get kill anyone (again, as far as we know...) or get us into a major war, helped us out of a major recession (which Reagan promptly took credit for), and he didn't turn his back on the one of greatest epidemics in history to public safety and say that the victims "deserved it"... He was honest enough to admit in public to lusting in his heart (without acting on it... once again, as far as we know...). And if you ask him nicely he might even build you a house. How cool is that?!!! ------------------------ A couple of mighty "Yo!"'s to Dano and G-na!! Sorry... I was a bit distracted... (that short-term memory thing G... what is it they say about that? ;-) t User: Jim#
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| Day: 5 Message: Nobody here but us lurkers old buddy :) User: steviedan
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| Day: 4 Message: wh wh where am i ? this place looks familiar... to paraphrase abby lincoln... "where do i begin ?" s'all good and i hear that EVERYTHING MUST GO ! ...DO tell... User: Bill
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| Day: 4 Message: Tones Can't you understand that ALL POLITICIANS are basically full of Harry Truman (a Democrat) got us into the Korean War and ordered the John F. Kennedy got us into Vietnam (Some would argue that it actually Lyndon Johnson (a Democrat) escalated the war to the point of riots in Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon promised to end the war but failed to show Gerald R. Ford was best known for falling down alot. Jimmy "The Peanut Farmer" Carter was best known for "Stagflation", Ronald Regan is remembered for being either one of America's greatest George Bush Sr. was a nice guy who threw up on the prime minister of Bill Clinton is pretty widely regarded as a schmuck. He went from one George Bush Jr. is another child of priviledge who wound up in a position Now ask yourself this question... DON'T FUCKIN' COUNT ON IT! User: t
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| Day: 4 Message: Driving home I had a thought (hey, it happens...): Jimmy Carter is the only president in my lifetime I can be even somewhat proud of. Pretty pathetic... On a lighter note... only 2 more months and Everything Must Go... User: Paige
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| Day: 4 Message: Just heard on my local (classic rock) radio station (KTYD, Santa Barbara) that "Which One's Pink" will be playing locally here...I believe at the Soho. Heard a brief clip of the band...not bad...not bad at all. Great URL on Pink Floyd and how each band member remembers the making of Dark Side of the Moon. Also a fine interview with Alan Parsons and his take on the Oz connection with DSOTM. Basically, he says it's bullshit. By the way...if you have never heard "Tales of Mystery and Imagination" ...the Project's first offering, your missing something special. It remains my favorite APP album. What I did find interesting in the interviews, was the relationship (or lack thereof) between David and Roger. Apparently, David believes that he deserves more credit for DSOTM than Roger ever gave him. Yet he (David) admits that he was kind of "out of it" during that time. Seems to me that Roger held Syd (Cyd) in high regard and it is implied that DSOTM was inspired by his mental illness. Discovering the wonders of this exceptional band. Other than The Wall, DSOTM was a moment in time that may never be repeated. Amazingly brilliant as well as haunting. Paige User:
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| Day: 4 Message: Yeah, compared to WORLDSOCIALIST!!! I'm close to Pelosi on the VENN diagram...you should quit while you're 100,000 points behind...LOL During the 80s, Reagan admin. did turn it's back while US companies sold military and supplies to Iraq - the focus then was on the Soviet Union and preventing a warm water port, ensconced in Afghanistan and hoping to take advantage of the Iran-Iraq War. I question this attempt at blance but... The Soviets and Germans far outspent us in military and WMD supplies and the French built Iraq a nuclear power plant, which the Israelis destroyed, or the West would have glowed Cerenkov blue years ago...We knew Saddam was ruthless. A tape showed up in the 90s (do they tape everything?) where the First day he assumed the dictatorship, he had a lackey call out names in front of the Assembly - over one-half of the Legislative Branch was taken out and shot dead...Once defectors escaped in the late 80s and throught the 90s, we really knew what kind of regime this was and the extent of ties with terrorists. As far as Bush I - Yeah that Gulf War I was a real show of support for Saddam... Since Gulf War I, France, Russia and Germany have contued to sell Saddam military and WMD materials against the UN resulotions specifiying the Cease Fire terms at the end of Gulf War ! I voted for John Anderson in 1980, nobody in 1988 and 1996 (or was it Chuckles the Clown?) and Clinton in 1992...we all make mistakes ;-0 Speaking of tapes, how about the bogus walk about in Baghdad. Note that ALL have LONG sleeves in 100¦ weather!!! There are clouds in the background some are misinterpreting as smoke (which would be black and rising in a more narrow column). Note the hue of the blue sky you can see. this clearly is cool, winter weather Feb. maybe early March....the speech is canned User: Before I talk, I should read a book...
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| Day: 4 Message: But there's one thing, that, I do know... There's a lot of ruins, in Mesopotamia... User: And from the lef-t...
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| Day: 4 Message: Mu - It's not like you have to prove anything to me, but if calling out Lott makes you a centrist by your standards, fine. In fact, I think it's good that you are so willing to state your views and take the heat. But when your sense of history is so selective I have to call *you* out. The Clinton admininstration was a big letdown, but sandwiched between the two Bush regimes it's obvious those were the "good old days" comparatively. And you saying the Clinton administration, "...set the stage for much of our problems today" shows your unwillingness to call *any* conservative admistration to task for it's role in this foreign policy fiasco. The Reagan/Bush administration's support, funding, arming and training of both Osama and Saddam is well documented, and isn't even denied by conservative historians, yet you are only willing to look as far back as Clinton to place blame. http://www.geocities.com/burningbush2000/3.html http://www.worldsocialist-cwi.org/index2.html?/eng/2003/02/03us.html Does any of this stuff matter to you? How was the Clinton administration, with a Republican congress and a Republican-led slander campaign, supposed to clean up the mess Reagon and Bush had left? Fat chance he had. Still, if you want to call yourself a "centrist", go ahead... whatever. t User: lp, and another thing
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| Day: 4 Message: remember that the middle east was once considered the pillar of civilization - you know what brought it down (in part)? fundamentalism scary shit, huh? read the "where democracy failed" article by Thom Hartmann yet, scary stuff too - or is that an urban legend - let me go to snopes.com User: luckless pedestrian, decaffed
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| Day: 4 Message: hey in here some lady just called the local radio station and requested a dedication to the our troops, she asked for "born in the USA" to be played um, well, okay, lady - but have you read the lyrics? what a joke User: ¦ - No 9 dream
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| Day: 4 Message: t: I support no such thing - just look it up and see who was the first here to call for Lott's head - ME!!!! StAl: I agree that Clinton was a centrist on domestic policy when comprimising with Congress (and have said so before) and agree with a good bit of the legislation he signed. However, he was also a crook of almost Nixonian proportions (going back to his Arkansas days) miusing the FBI, Reno (remember the AK-47 against the head of Elian?) and his foreign policy was an absolute mess (Madeline NotSoBright and Warren Christopher are mostly to blame for the incompetency and Clinton/Gore for Chung/China/nuclearmusslespointedattheLeftCoastGate) and set the stage for much of our problems today - luckily he bit his upper lip instead of sweating on it... I still hate Nixon for his misuse of the Executive Branch and boneheaded bombing of Cambodia which allowed Pol Pot to come to power. But did you all remember that Nixon was a fiscal Keynsian and started the EPA? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030404/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_iraq_chemical_5 http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s825238.htm http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson040403.asp Here's a perm¦tation: Are you the 2% or 98% of the population? á á á Follow the instructions! NO PEEKING AHEAD! á á á á á á á á á á * There's no trick or surprise. á á á á á * Just follow these instructions, and answer the questions one at a time and as quickly as you can! á á á á á á á á á á á If the number is a 2-digit number, add the digits together á á á á á Determine which letter in the alphabet corresponds toá the number you ended up with á á á á á (example: 1=a, 2=b, 3=c,etc.) Think of a country that starts with that letter á á á á á Remember the last letter of the name of that country Think of the name of an animal that starts with that letter á á á á á Remember the last letter in the name of that animal á á á á á Think of the name of a fruit that starts with thatá letter á á á á á Are you thinking of a Kangaroo in Denmark eating an Orange? User: Beerberian
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| Day: 4 Message: Dano; I'm off on a retro thing Sat School Reunion 500th anniv thing I'm staying in the pub basically ... I've drawn "Wonder Weasel" in the National sweep ... 3 legs or what ??? Spent the whole day in an SAP workshop F*** Me I hate software salesmen Smarmy Tossers the lot of 'em !!!!!!! User: StAl
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| Day: 4 Message: Mark: Who said I *understand* routers and switches... Ijust get paid well to fake it. Besides, I like my theory best -- That it's magic. StAl User: Boston Rag
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| Day: 4 Message: Pat - I talked to Uri Geller and he explained the psychic page. Apparently the only important numbers are 9,18,27,36,45 etc. If you use the formula on the page you will always come up with a number divisible by 9. So....you will notice at all times, the numbers divisible by 9 have the same symbol. You mean you understand routers and switches and Javascript but that trick baffles you? Hi Stevee! I'm all set with West of Hollywood and thanks for health wishes. Mark in Boston User: StAl
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| Day: 4 Message: db , Made me laugh that cat jobby , but tell me this why do we never see Baby Pidgeons?? Edwin Starr played at the civic and he is singing along and the Mike went bellly up , so there he is blasting away and no one could hear Jack?? He was bloody good though , and i think that night i was a smooching with Shiela Galvin who i had the hots for for so long. t , s`up dude. Fingers , What about a Steely set list for the 3rd or is it a wing ding lets go for it when you start?? What about Video phone with Steevedan , now that could be interesting?? Sneakers , So a tent is out of the question matey?? Beers , Off to the Yids V Brum game this weekend?? Doherty up front Doh!! Aja , Angel , Lp ,Snakie, Top girls in the House. Thats it off with the Wifey to look at Floor Tiles , well do have to be responsible sometime?? User: Gina
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| Day: 3 Message: t: that's right, resort to name calling (of which you know nothing about) when you don't have an intellectual argument - you talk rhetoric, but I've always walked it, buster. I've been destitute, fought against discrimination, supported color blindness...which is ironic because I am "color-blind" - I don't see greens or browns, but you wouldn't know that. You've truly sunk to an alltime low not consistent with your intelligence...btw, today in an effort to get a talented prospective student funded by an NIH minority scholarship, looks like we're turned down because she's Taiwanese and no the right typ of minority as a Asian. What if she were Vietnamese? - we decimated their country and families escaped out of 'Nam on rickety boats. Racism is not limited at all to centrist like myself or conservatives... Shocking - Some objectivity Bush under stress
So, it's this kind of crap that makes me queasy about the decision to go to war, the war, and what we are doing now - oh, and remember that name Bechtel, they are part of the re-building, remember?
Thanks for proving my point. As I said before, you are a nutcase.
As I also said before, I DID'NT vote for George Bush. I voted for
Ralph Nader because I felt that BOTH presidential candidates were weak.
Yes Tones, Al Gore was a weak candidate and that's why he lost. He didn't
lose because of the inept voting system. He did'nt lose because of
political tampering. He lost because he sucked as a candidate. It's as
simple as that. Was Bush much better? No. But if you ask me to give him
a grade for his first term so far I'd have to give him a solid "B".
Even though I didn't vote for him I have to admit that he's doing okay
so far.
things right and he deserves credit for it. Sending troops into Bosnia
was the right thing. Allowing gays into the military was constitutionally
right. Attempting to fix the healthcare system, while unsuccessful, was
the right thing to do. Preserving national parklands was right.
So even though I didn't care for Clinton personally, I felt he did some
good things while in office. If you could do the same for Bush I might
take your arguments more seriously. The current administration, while not
perfect, isn't completely evil either.
Miz Ducky, nice seeing your post.
Bad Sneakers, Maybe I can get my mate to fly that F-14 by my house, pick us up and drop Joey and me off in England. I don't think the Navy would mind if he made a slight detour. I gotta warn ya though, I got a "thang" for Scottish men! I'm not promising I'll behave if I get a few drinks in me. So consider yourself warned bud... lol lol
Jaz, fire up the ambulance. It's time for a road trip. mmmmmwwwwaaaaahhhhh!
Off to do some serious bouldering now M
Miz Ducky, nice seeing your post.
Bad Sneakers, Maybe I can get my mate to fly that F-14 by my house, pick us up and drop Joey and me off in England. I don't think the Navy would mind if he made a slight detour. I gotta warn ya though, I got a "thang" for Scottish men! I'm not promising I'll behave if I get a few drinks in me. So consider yourself warned bud... lol lol
Jaz, fire up the ambulance. It's time for a road trip. mmmmmwwwwaaaaahhhhh!
Off to do some serious bouldering now M
let's put our heads together,
then we can make our money green.
"Little Queen of Spades"
bluz
Welcome back, for real this time!!!!!!
It's not necessarily Howard per say as I don't really know him.
If you listen to Howard's anti U.S. diatribe then you have heard the
complete and total opinions of Aja, Clas, Tones, Bad Sneakers, and
all the others across the globe who've bought into the philosophy that
America sucks.
recieved neverending attacks by a handful of individuals. One of which
is your friend Howard. While he may be fairly good at music transcription
he isn't nearly as good a judge of national character. Why is it so
outside the realm of possibility that America is a force for good in the
world? I think it is, but if you think it is you'll be attacked by
people like this. It doesn't bother me of course. I'm just explaining it
to you.
and it's politics schmolotics here on the yellow,
closest show is Ohio, Dc or Denver
but then maybe in the fall
congrats YGK!!!
Aja
StevEEDan
Bill: you wrote:
"Was it really necessary? Yes I think it was necessary because there are a handful of individuals out there who never miss an opportunity to prevent an individual from expessing a viewpoint different from thier own. I've been called all sorts of vile names by this group of nutjobs."
Beyond the three major networks, the impact of large corporations can still be felt in the ownership picture of other large networks. The Fox Television Network is owned by the News Corporation, while the Cable News Network (CNN) is owned by the America Online ûTime Warner corporation (AOL-Time Warner).
With respect to Print media, large corporations equally wield considerable ownership clout. Rupert MurdochÆs News Corporation control at least four large daily newspapers in Britain, including the Sun and the Times newspapers, and 40% of the countryÆs only pay-TV company, British Sky Broadcasting Group PLC. In Canada, Conrad BlackÆs Hollinger corporation now controls about 60% of the countryÆs newspapers after acquiring the Southam group of newspapers. In Australia, News Corporation also controls a significant portion of the newspaper business in the country. Also, the publishing giant Bertelsmann AG corporation which, not long ago, purchased the huge billion dollar publisher Random House, shares ownership of CLT-UFA, the largest television owning entity in Europe with the Audiofina company of Belgium. Again, the British corporation, Pearson PLC, which in 1998 bought the educational and reference books division of publishing giant Simon & Schuster is the publisher of the Financial Times newspaper.
Concern in the Profession
Reacting to these pressures on the integrity of news, journalist John Siegenthaler, founder of theFreedom Forum First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University, in Tennessee, asked, ôDo newspaper columnists and editors still have the impact on society that they once did?ö Answering this question while receiving the 2001 Freedom in Film award for Lifetime Achievement at the Center, actor Robert Redford said, ôThey donÆt have the impact they once did, but they still have itàwhen I was coming along, I saw newspapers as safeguards for public trustàNow you see more entertainment on the front pages instead of the devious things people are doing, or stories about social security or welfare.ö
To put these concerns in context, it is possible to identify some instances of possible corporate synergy between the news outlets and other divisions of the overall corporate operation. In its November 21, 1998 U.S. Edition, the Economist magazine outlined three instances of possible manipulation of news coverage for the benefit of larger corporate interests.
In October 1998, ABCÆs ô20/20ö news magazine program was preparing a segment on how the Disney theme parks were being uncooperative in a police investigation of child sex- abuse cases. Inexplicably, the segment was dropped halfway through and the Disney corporation denied any pressures on its ABC News Division to kill the story.
In another case involving Rupert MurdochÆs News Corporation, one of its entities, the publisher Harper Collins had breached an agreement to publish a book by Chris Patten, the last British governor of Hong Kong. The book, detailing PattenÆs years as governor of Hong Kong, was widely expected to be critical of the Chinese government, whose favor Murdoch needed for his Star TV satellite broadcaster. Unlike most other British papers which gave front page coverage to the matter, MurdochÆs Times newspaper did not report the story until days later and even so, presented merely News CorporationÆs side of the controversy, headlined, ôNews Corp puts its side.ö
Yes I think it was necessary because there are a handful of individuals
out there who never miss an opportunity to prevent an individual from
expessing a viewpoint different from thier own. I've been called all sorts
of vile names by this group of nutjobs. A person can only stand so much
b.s. before they feel the need to vent.
the really brave ones who finally realized that Hussien and his crew
won't be around to put a stop to it anymore. It was a gas to watch.
I'll never forget it.
Randy,
music-related posts are quite interesting and informative. But when you
make statements like, "This was a war for control of oil and money,
propagated by money-hungry capitalistic government with shades of
imperialism..." you paint yourself as a complete nuerotic with no ability
to see both sides of an issue. Hopefully this doesn't represent who you
are in real life.
office), then you are a "sheep" for Ed Asner, Phil Donahue, and the entire
leftist establishment. I like to think that niether of these perspectives
is the entire truth.
This was not a war to take down an evil leader; this was not a war to "liberate" the innocent victims who live under a harsh regime; this was not a war to defend the world from attacks with weapons of mass destruction; this was a war for control, money, oil, and an opportunity for future (American) revenue.
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com
http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-war-howard11apr11.story
For some balance, I vote for the Newshour. At least you won't get opinion as news. We (work) have also been using the BBC World News, for an outside the US perspective.
I find that I can't watch CNN, Fox (sorry Snakie) or any of the others. Actually, it gets a bit better without the sound on....
Speaking of outside perspectives....B's coverage, is my personal favorite. ;-)
Am I hopelessly naive thinking that I can buy these Mid State Fair tickets on their website tomorrow morning? Well, what will be, will be....
greater opportunity. Goes to show how politicians deal with civil and equal rights.
greater opportunity. Goes to show how politicians deal with civil and equal rights.
Until recently, our cable company carried International Channel, and I could watch the France 2 evening news there every weeknight. In the weeks leading up to the war, I felt they emphasized the anti-war protests in the US more than the news outlets in this country. That emphasis is likely a good part of the reason 4 of 5 of the French supported President Chirac's stand against war in Iraq. It's interesting to get another side of an issue.
recording "Loco-motion" hit No. 1 in 1962, died Thursday after a long
illness.
and Gerry Goffin after they hired her as a babysitter. They asked her to
sing thier song "The Loco-Motion" and then released Boyd's demo of it as
a single.
A wise child walks right out of here"
"By Rick Atkinson
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, April 4, 2003; Page A01
NAJAF, Iraq, April 3 -- U.S. Army troops and sympathetic Shiite Muslims today collaborated to blow up an equestrian statue of President Saddam Hussein as part of a campaign to win hearts and minds in this vital Euphrates River city.
Bill - is this the reaction we get when an attempt is made to actually discuss the issues? You give up in a torrent of bile? It doesn't do your arguments any favours if you're not prepared to back them up.
Been listening to "Show Biz Kids" Compilation...
The intro to Baxter's solo on Boston Rag is so exceptional. The tension that builds in the music as he enters the mix is classic and a highlight of his contributions to SD. And if that weren't enough, to follow Boston Rag with 'Show Biz Kids" (still one of the best offerings ever by Steely Dan) is a delight and worth looping for about an hour or so.
You know they don't give a fuck about anyone else"
have ever read here. God bless you brother, you know where it's at.
Statesman/Post #2665,
that makes it quite obvious why he's in the position he's in.
I won't forget your post bro.
To the rest of the malcontents...(Howard, Clas, Fezo, Bad Sneakers, Tones,
et al) you can collectively kiss my ass in Times Square.
You are all a collection of untalented nothings and nobody's with entirely
too much hateful lying bullshit upstairs in your misbegotten skulls.
Your spirit is dark and loathsome and selfish. DO NOT EVER REPRODUCE.
[down periscope]
Aja
imperialism over the Iraqi's land, responded:
"Over the years, America has sent its best young men overseas to do battle
in distant lands in to help liberate oppressed peoples, and the only land we have asked for in return is enough to bury those who died in the effort."
BB, thanks my Sugarman. All is well in Hooterville. The Bullrider from Montana seems to get most my free time these days. But I think of you guys often...mmmmmwwwwaaaaahhhhh! I'm still trying to figure out a way to get to the UK Danfest. If JJ and I fly, I'm sure the other passengers will vote to throw us off the plane mid-trip.
Drew, no word from Tony. I got a letter from Trevor that was dated 2 weeks ago. Anything on your end? I don't give a fuck about the other. I tried real hard to get along with her for you. But when She brought my Son into our conflict the gloves came off. If you don't want to get burned, then step aside.
St Al, I've had troubles getting into here as well.
"EVERYONE MUST GO ..."
StevEEdan
or enemies in the middle east. All those ecstatic people chanting
G. Dubya's name must have given you a full fledged panic attack. LOL!
Something good was done here Howie, something really really good.
Seeing those people knock the statue down was something I'll never forget
in my life. It's history baby, it's something to be proud of. Take a
good look at it Howard, it's freedom and freedom is a great thing, no
matter who it comes to it still feels the same. Ultimately it makes no
difference what you think Howie. Progress will be made without you, as
it has so far.
Hearing it from you is a bit of a suprise though.
Be happy Howard, the world is a better place this morning.
Jimbo: "Even the newsstations that helped to invent the war still haven't brought up the alleged "weapons of mass destruction." Where are they?"
Maybe not, but we've given them a hell of a helping hand wouldn't you say? Wouldn't it be better to steer the people that are already "headed in that direction" towards a path of mutual understanding, rather than stirring up their hatred and frustration even more?
EVERYTHING MUST GO !!! (Ain't that the truth ...)
SteveeDan
...and now time to celebrate the new Dan album as well and the upcoming tour...
Aja
THEY KNOW what it's all about, not you or me. We haven't "birthed" any
terrorists who weren't headed in that direction already. I'm proud of
how this situation was and is being handled and while oil is a byproduct
of this war it ISN'T the reason for it. You're a smart guy too Pat, but
you're wrong on this thing and you've been wrong from the start. After
9/11 we have no choice but to track down and eliminate terrorists wherever
they are. If they move to Syria well get them in Syria. If they move to
North Korea we'll get them in North Korea. And if they move to Sweden
(which they apparently already have...) we'll get them in Sweden.
Until there's no place left for them to run to. Until they are eliminated.
Until the last one is gone. Understand it all now? That's what its all
about Jack.
Having said all this, I just want to say that I appreciate everything
you've done with this site, what you're doing for the benefit of the
Steely Dan community, and that do really feel that you are a good guy
overall. The fact that we don't see eye to eye politically doesn't really
mean that much in the big scheme of things.
What time is it in Sweden? Have you been drinking again?
:)
It's not over, gang. It's just going to get worse.
It looks alot like Beach Blanket Bingo, but where's Frankie Avalon
and Annette Funicello? Oh there they are! Hi Annette!
Where's the thousands of dead American and British soldiers?
Where's the thousands of dead Iraqi civilians?
Where are the completely decimated cities you spoke of?
Where's the ecological disaster? Where's the burning oil fields?
Why are the French, German, and Russian governments backpedalling on
thier opposition to it all?
Three little words.
"I was wrong".
St. Al, The top 10 list was great. I can make a pretty mean funnel cake! We Southern girls have many talents.. lmao
Wild Bill, it looks like I might just get to attend the show in Cleveland, and perhaps Chicago too. YAY!!!!
Duncan, Eagle has a nice ring to it. ;)
Re#12, I suspect Dr. Mu may speak with a Texas drawl (which sounds very sexy BTW) and if I remember there are several other Southerners in Banyan Trees. I am seeing a Cowboy from Montana and he occasionally says "purty". It sounds quite charming.
I've seen some very good Artists play in unusal places. I saw Warren Zevon playing in a bar. It might have held 300 people at best. I also saw him perform at an arena. The bar show was much better. I'm just happy the Dan are touring.
St. Al, The top 10 list was great. I can make a pretty mean funnel cake! We Southern girls have many talents.. lmao
Wild Bill, it looks like I might just get to attend the show in Cleveland, and perhaps Chicago too. YAY!!!!
Duncan, Eagle has a nice ring to it. ;)
Re#12, I suspect Dr. Mu may speak with a Texas drawl (which sounds very sexy BTW) and if I remember there are several other Southerners in Banyan Trees. I am seeing a Cowboy from Montana and he occasionally says "purty". It sounds quite charming.
I've seen some very good Artists play in unusal places. I saw Warren Zevon playing in a bar. It might have held 300 people at best. I also saw him perform at an arena. The bar show was much better. I'm just happy the Dan are touring.
SD.com update alert!!!
Roy.Scam - good work on the emails there!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2930913.stm
BBC Radio 2
Tue 8 Apr, 21:30 - 22:00 30 mins
the revolution will not be televised
whatever happened
listener supported
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warzone
i don't want to be a soldier
highwire
games without frontiers
with friends like these
back in judy's jungle
melt the guns
war dance
planet earth
time bomb
video crime
surrender
domination
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abandon city
no world order
pearls on a string
motion picture soundtrack
who was that masked man
knockin on heaven's door
got the fear
izabella
it better end soon
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only a fool would say that
HOTTTT...as in humid and toasty. Anybody here remember? The whole place is a bit old and mostly concrete that heats up during the day and just bakes you at night unless a merciful cool breeze kicks up.
No, to my knowledge neither Mr. Fagen nor Mr. Becker have ever dated a NASCAR driver. I believe the number 19 was in reference to someone's age.
Yes, I did realize that there was nothing west of Hollywood except "a whole bunch of water." I had thought that the lyrics made that clear. We're glad you liked the song, but apologize for the loss of your tractor.
No. You're thinking of Black History Month which lasts throughout February. Black Friday refers to a day of economic collapse.
Since Janine is a fictional character, she is unable to respond to your, "What's her problem?" inquiry. Your theory of her being a 'stuck up cheerleader type, too good for her own kin', is one of many deconstructions offered.
Did someone with an email of "Danfan" attempt to send me something?
that post. As far as fighting the war to ensure the validity of the
United Nations goes, I think the validity of the United Nations was
pretty much shot well before Iraq became a topic of discussion.
We invented the United Nations with great hopes for the future but you
can't really expect such an orderly concept like this to succeed when
you're dealing with politicians like they've got in France, Germany,
and Russia. It was a nice idea but it just didn't work out.
2) Turn your television on and tune to the cartoon network. (Coyote &
Roadrunner works well from what I'm told)
3) Turn the sound off on your tv.
4) Fire up Steely Dan's "Pretzel Logic" cd and crank the sound.
5) Enjoy!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/2815595.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2872359.stm
get high, turn the sound off on the television, put our favorite
records on the hi-fi, and turn the sound way up. It seemed amazing
to us that no matter what program was on tv it seemed to go with
the music.
According to the band and it's producer there was never any such
relationship.
(Another bubble burst by The Center For Marijuana Studies Inc.)
I'm not the father figure of the guestbook y'know...
going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam
Hussein that the UN cannot be ignored. '
preserve the United Nation's ability to avert war."
"The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will."
be stopped by democracy, as they define it."
"Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home we cannot afford dissention among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard."
t: I HIGHLY recommend the Dark Side of Oz. Sync lock your DVD and CD players. Start on the second roar from the MGM lion...Frankly the Floyd album never made much sense to me, beyond a superb sound effects album, before this experience...
Companies, Including Big GOP Donors,
Invited to Vie for Iraq Contracts
W A S H I N G T O N, March 22 ù Weeks
before the first bombs dropped in Iraq, the
Bush administration began rebuilding plans.
worth $600 million.
money in one country in one year," said Andrew S.
Natsios, administrator of the U.S. Agency for
International Development, an independent federal
agency that receives overall foreign policy guidance
from the State Department.
construct Iraqi schools, airports, roads, bridges,
hospitals, power plants and more.
which chose to conduct the bidding in secret.
people take a second look at this in terms of the secrecy and the limitations of
competition," said Steven Schooner, a law professor at George Washington
University.
But to move this through quickly, the agency said it went to firms with track records and
security clearances. It asked seven ù about half the number that normally would have
sought the business ù to bid.
Washington Group and Halliburton, Vice President Dick Cheney's old firm.
principally to Republicans.
closed process blocked British companies, as well as any foreign firm, from bidding.
been essential to nation rebuilding because they emphasize the involvement of local
people.
McClymont, chief executive officer of InterAction, an alliance of dozens of U.S.-based
nongovernmental relief organizations. "Otherwise, it's a recipe for failure."
They knew we planned to visit US in summer 03, but for the ''bump''
sorry, just me again, but LOL! i love #12... too damn funny
oops...i take that back. once on the classic rock station on a Sunday morning i heard Jack of Speed...
st al - love your top ten. yep, funnel cakes, that's it
Aja
Aja
Aja
From one thing to another Baby Snake, are you married?
StevieDan - Hey! how the hell are ya? we've missed you. welcome back.
Does anybody know about this gig? where its at, etc...
7/26 Kelseyville, CA / Konocti Harbor
What a pleasant surprise. Get back from a weekend at grandma's house only to find tour dates!
Ward
(Excuse the plagerism of the 1st line...)
Letter to Daniel
Sounds of the Earth, both far and near.
A sound that echo's year after year,
The hoofsteps of elk and bison and deer.
May you dance the dance of the wild boar.
May you grace the neck of a young giraffe,
And race the plains on the hyena's laugh.
Or fail to witness the grizzley's might.
For the Orca's breach is nothing to miss,
And the coo of a dove is surely bliss.
As well as the ape and the kangaroo.
A story of thriving and striving and joy,
And things you remember, when you were a boy.
Wreaking havoc on eagles, the owl and osprey.
For all that he wills his great kingdom to do,
Will have it's effect on the earth and on you!
And consider the effect it will have on the wild.
For the earth is a delicate, wonderful thing.
It can keep you e're young, and make your heart sing!
a wonderful spot to vacation. It would be nice to spend a week or so
in Tahoe and catch the SD concert at the same time wouldn't it?
Jones Beach for sure!
Pronunciation: "di-s&n-'jen-y&-w&s
Function: adjective
Date: 1655
: lacking in candor; also : giving a false appearance of
simple frankness : CALCULATING
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Steely Dan's new CD,
"Everything Must Go"
has been pushed back roughly a month to
June 10, 2003
with something called "a schedule" for
some entity called "the record company"."
will probably be some opportunity for you to
preorder the CD (with some promotional incentive
or another) in the future."
heard some muttering about something called a
"Special Edition" too..."
to us at this point, but you can keep tabs on the
emerging details at
http://steelydan.com/newcd.html"
Oleander: Leg up! Second leg is tour of the Southland! 10/11 - Performing Arts Center in Austin - Party on 6th Street! I can feel it
TWO BIG DANFESTS!
http://home.attbi.com/%7Esuedave/seattledanfest.html
http://www.thedancollective.co.uk/gigs.html
btw. i am doing pretty good and i HOPE to see the dan in june.
Congrats Duncan and Linda!
and i'll show you how to plant a rose'..and i can make anything grow"
you water in the day time when you shoud be watterin late at night'
and i'll show you how to plant a rose..i'm a first class gardner and i can make anything grow..i'm gonna dig around your plants..you plant your love but you aint doing it right..get out in your garden baby'..and i'll show you how to plant a rose..i'll seperate your flowers and i aint goona touch a stem i've got the water on slow
and i won't blow your flowers down and won't cut down your gypsy weed..but I'll show you how to plant a rose...
What makes a man go crazy
when a woman wears her dress so tight?
Same old thing make a tomcat fight all night.
"same old thing"
bluz
Steely Dan's
"EVERYTHING MUST GO" TOUR
7/24 Paso Robles, CA / Mid-State Fair
7/26 Kelseyville, CA / Konocti Harbor
7/27 Tahoe, NV / Harvey's Outdoors
8/1 Portland, OR / Coliseum
8/2 Seattle, WA / Gorge Ampitheatre
8/4 Denver, CO / Fiddler's
8/7 Minneapolis, MN / XCEL Center
8/8 Chicago, IL / United Center
8/9 Columbus, OH / Schottenstein Center
8/11 Detroit, MI / Pine Knob
8/12 Cleveland, OH / Blossom Music Center
8/14 Toronto, Canada / Molson Ampitheatre
8/16 Boston, MA / Tweeter Center
8/17 Holmdel, NJ / PNC Bank Arts Center
8/19 Manchester, NH / Verizon Wireless Arena
8/20 Hershey, PA / Hershey Park
8/22 Wantagh, NY / Jones Beach
8/23 Philadelphia, PA / Tweeter Center
8/25 Uncasville, CT / Mohegan Sun Arena
8/27 Washington, D.C. / Nissan
8/29 Saratoga Springs, NY / Saratoga PAC
8/30 Atlantic City, NJ / Etess Arena at Taj Mahal
8/31 Syracuse, NY / New York State Fair
being considered. If and when this schedule is confirmed
we will send another Newsletter announcing those dates.
through The Concert Hotwire Pollstar at
http://pollstar.com
NEWSLETTER !!!!!!
it no matter what party they belong to?
bomb to be dropped on Nagasaki.
started sooner when the CIA went into Vietnam during the Eisenhower
presidentsy so I guess both the Democrats and Republicans were to blame).
the streets. President Johnson was so despised by the time re-election
rolled around that he decided not to run for a second term.
any real will to do so until just before re-election time (wasn't that
nice of him?). Then of course came Watergate. The rest is history...
the Iran debacle, and his brother "Billy" who had a beer named after him.
(Unfortunately Billy Carter drank most of his inventory and never really
prospered from his beer enterprise though...)
presidents or one of it's worst depending on who you ask.
Japan and spent alot of time on his cigarette boat in Kennebunckport,
Maine. Oh, and he did the Persian Gulf thing. None of which helped him
out during re-election. Most people thought his wife was smarter than
him. Most people were right.
scandel to another for most of his presidentsy. He didn't really
accomplish very much during his eight years that one can point to
definetively. His wife is also pretty widely regarded as a schmuck.
He invented term "Centrist". He was a dealmaker. Most politicians
after him have tried to portray themselves as "centrist" because it
worked for Bill.
of great authourity. Suprised? I didn't think so... Is he a good president
or a bad president? Ask different people, get different answers. It's too
early to tell. How he handles the economy after the Iraq think may make
or break him.
Will the next president, whether Democrat or Republican, be an average
person like yourself who will take office with absolutely no strings
attached?
(hey there lp... missed ya...:-)
More of SaddamÆs playtoys found:
Our REAL friends: Britain, Australia, Spain, Denmark, Italy, and a host of Eastern European countries who remember the yolk of Soviet repression:
I support the eradication of terroris and Stalin/Hitler/Saddam, not war itself...peace in our time...
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a guy in his late 40's from Sweden can't. I must be that time difference
we spoke about earlier.
and marked on by now. Try to enjoy what's left of it my little Swedish
meatball.
Danaho.
AARRGGHH!
off now, Earth, Wind & Fire's Best CD spinning. Got To Get You Into My Life .. GROOVY!!!
Thanks for the info on the Joni DVDs...
That's 2 additional hours in which to learn from the mistakes of the
past my friend. Sorry about the 5 hour mistake, it's early here.
You think about that and decide who the moron is okay?
SteveeDan
you know the problme dr. is that you take that phd way too seriously.
MD: that was in the 50s...even in the 70s, Randy Newman saw the writing on the wall...the South had a long way to go, that's not the only place racism ferments by a long shot...