SIS Archives -- April 2001

Name: Jimbo
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Date: Monday, April 30, 19101 at 23:09:32
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Cara- Let me get this straight. Kirsten Dunst thought Hey 19 was Happy Birthday? Ho boy. I don't know if she was thinking the traditional tune or the one by Stevie Wonder.

And this is the girl that's going to play Mary Jane in the upcoming Spider-Man film? Boy are we getting an onslaught
Hollyweird types or what.

You all have just received the Amish Virus. Since we have no electricity or computers, please delete all of your files.
Thank thee

it's you, dumbass.

Geesh.

who is it, KD?

At least now we know who's doing the postings.

could someone fix me a percodan cocktail?

sluuuuuuuurp!

buurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!

Hey!

angel - survived - yes, that's appropriate. Thanks!

Aussie - VERY VERY jealous

YGK - keep it goin man...

Could Cyn and eLLe go to the Middle East and please talk some sense into those guys?

Gina - 1950's huh? Mint - that would cost a bundle... any other good copys?

Devilish Golgatha

On Letterman (CBS) moments ago (around 12:10 A) Paul Schafer and band played "Hey 19" as an intro to Kirsten Dunn's (sp?) appearance. Dave asked if she knew what the song was, and she said, "Happy Birthday?", and Paul informed her of the authorship and said it was in her honor. I guess she is another young HollyWood latest thing...

xoxo,
cara mia

Wild day here on the guestbook. More noise then signal.
Spent the afternoon paying the bills. Brought back all the memories of the fun in New York last month. Worth every penny, in my humble opinion. Thanks again.

aa: If I were you, I would feel quite honored at being on Blaise's top 40 list. Guess you are a regular now.... LOL

YGK: Too bad, no MP3. So I can't listen it it. :-( It was a great show you put on for us, that's for sure.

Aussie: Glad you managed to drop in. Hope the new job goes well for you.

Lisa and Daddy G: You survived the concert!

Good night all, work again tomorrow...

cause it was his damn show....

Aus-thanks. How's the new job?

Gina, wormy, et al on the gallery-nice to finally see you--like a patchwork of cyber friends getting all sewn up.

LB-keep checkin' in.

DOMC-urgent meeting desperately in need of scheduling. P'haps somewheres in the Bronx on a sunny day...

*sigh*

Let me be your Carib Cannibal backdoor man.

http://www.dolphinsex.org/

Cyn have another drink.

All of them.

One to bend over,

another one to screw it up the other's ass,

and the rest to sit around wanking wondering why it's so dark, and waiting for their turn to bend over.

Paging Dr's Kruger, Freud and Wu,

Line up..its time for your shock treatment...Nurse Hatchet will show you where to go.
After that you will have a catscan to see if you all really have a brain.

Prognosis: Nuh uh.

I've got just the man

http://goatse.cx/giver.html

Hmm, good question.

We wholeheartedly concur doctor. We would only add bi-hourly supplementation with steely dan -- ideally way, way west of Hollywood.

Yeah, but who'd do it?

Therapy transcripts:

"Whereas I would stomp you in a New York minute. Then I'd turn my horse around and Go Back Jack and Do It Again."

"we WILL know who you are, where you live, what you ate for breakfast, the last time you had sex"

"I'm not that stupid...my Bassett can kick your Danes ass"

Diagnosis: Hydrant in butt.

Prescription: Put it in pussy.

Bottom line: In desperate need of ongoing good fucking.

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Of course that would depend on if you are refering to the Gb's listed or if you are refering to your your multiple personalities (Sybil). I'm sorry, is your straight jacket too tight and cutting off the circulation to you tiny head.

*hiccup*

Which of the thirty of us would you be addressing?

Signed,

The Thirty Of Us

I sure will...and make a toast to your early demise. Besides is THAT the best you can do?

Cyn = lp after a nightcap

They don't like me. They don't like me.

Cyn have another drink.

Thank God ya'll are having problems too.....Thought maybe some one had changed the lock and didn't send me a key. Or that I had been banished for 3 postings in a row...lol.
They are filming "Tuck Everlasting" (Disney).The town has maintained its beautiful Victorian Buildings and thats what brought Disney here. They have transformed it back in time to that era. Its very cool to see what it actually looked like back then.
Paramount filmed "Runaway Bride" here too...the small town scenes.

But wasn't that a bit TOO easy?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ahhh see now I really feel like an idiot..COOL Cyn!!Lunch sounds good ; )
yes I am having a problem with the chat, can't get in, server overload (?)
What movie are they filming Cyn?
I remember that one with Rosie and Whitney and Mary Catharine
LOL!!

I can't get into chat either. I sent a message to St. Al.

Am not posting my name in case I get flack for 3 in a row....
But..is anyone else having problems getting into the chat?

ps..Gina, what a lovely Terrier, smooth coated? (The Face) has a wirehair terrier and my bassett "Indiana Bones" is soooo in love with her.

The Christmas one 2(?) years ago with Rosie and Penny Marshall as nuns along with Whitney "that wasn't my pot" Houston. Molly was doing her "superstar" thing. Rosie and Penny kept cracking up, and had to turn away from the camera.

Whewwwww..made it pass the one line limit.

Cyn

Amen, sister! this outta really piss them off....Lets do lunch, sometime!

Sorry it took awhile to respond.....went up town to watch the filming...Saw Sissy from afar, drivin' a horse and wagon. Tomorrow William Hurt (be still my heart) will be filming his part(I'm gonna make friends with HIS horse...lol, taking apples and such. Think he'll fall for it?)

Ya gotta love a good peace dove,

Cyn

Yeah Jenny are you there for chrissakes? everybody using the yella to find the girl now. YOO HOO JENNY!!!!

Jenny,

are you there? - I replied to your e-mail and for some reason it got sent back... I'll try again

Geoff

one other thing..I am not getting along with Cyn.

get a life for goodness sakes..

*out -like a light*

Cyn ..you said you could tell if it was me or a poseur..I didn't write this. I think we should get along, because we are providing sickos with WAY too much fun..whatdayah say? hand sake and be done with it?live and let live..etc etc etc?
eLLe

I'm fifty 5---0
wahahaaa I caught it- loved it. My fav. is the one when she does her cheerleader act with Steven Tyler.LMFAOROFL!!!!!

A quick cheque of the GB this early evening of the weekend's meltdown....Lordy lord. What goes on?

LadyBaySide: My sincerest condolances. Got your E-blast from last week today (finally) and upon YGK's heads up when we spoke briefly this afternoon I saw what your husband posted over the weekend. I'm deeply sorry you have to go through this...let me know how I can help. Keeping fingers crossed for Morgan boys. Much better things to come....No worries and Godspeed in your search.

SunnySamantha: LOL on the "Leg Up"!!! Speaking of Leg Up: did you catch the Molly Shannon special on SNL last Saturday night? After indulging in fine Columbian with guests from Massachussets I nearly went numbre one on the couch in the living room I was laughing so hard. I'm fifty! Five-Oh. I can Kick..! LOL

Negative Girl: Please see above comments to Sam.

CaraMiaMarsha: Responded to your blast today. Sorry for delay. Been away and distracted...will definitely hook up with you next Thursday for drinks and more...

Topsoilant wunder-wurm: Thanks for hues but would love more colour.

LuckLessPedestrian and NMN: A trip to Boston is a real possibility for Memorial Day weekend....if Beantown it is, then the Cape and hopefully into Fenway if the Bosox are in town...perhaps we can connect. Please advise.

St. Al: Package sent via United States Postal Service. You're in good hands.

LisaG and DaddyG: Nice shots in the GB Gallerie. DaddyG: Caught the Yankees yesterday afternoon to sit in the sun, drink beers, have a few dogs and watch Roger Clemens edge past Gaylord Perry in the All-time Strike out list and sweep the Oakland Athletics. What a day. What a game. And the Stadium looks better than ever. The Kentucky BlueGrass used in the outfield was a beautiful green colour which was expertly laid to contrast frame-by-frame and give a checkerboard appearance. We all came back with sun-kissed faces. Summer is here.

Hoops: Thank you for blast. Let me know next time you're in NYC.

Blaise: Please say hello to BlacksGirl for me. Will ya?

YGK: Glad to hear the Dog giggin' it out in Albany. Keep grinding dude.

Babes in California all week long......

Everybody have a great week.

Aus

What damage?

I forgot to take them off...

t

I'm the one who posted that comment.

That wasn't me with the anon post below, but I echo the sentiment (and will refrain from my own one-liners myself): quick disses and especially (anonymous) slams are lame. I'll stop myself, and the ones who do the damage without identifying themselves know how lame they are already.

Yeah but then it wouldn't be archived.

Yw.

Don't come in here telling people what they can or can not post in here. At least we all post our names...not like you, coward. Be brave for once...post it for all to see.

check out our site today!

http://www.geekboi.com

Can you people move on to chat for your one liners, they're not archived over there and we've stopped caring a week ago. thank you.

yeah two sick old quacks, i mean chicks.

Ho Ho Ho

True, eLLe and I don't quite see eye to eye, BUT, we have common ground where our children are concerned. So don't tread there....

T...I just love your spurs..LOL. Can you teach my horse to run to me by whistling?

another nutty day. Thanks everyone.

Did you get the resend?

t

'preciate it.

look who's talking about getting a life!

second runner up: i'm not getting along with cyn

one other thing..I am not getting along with Cyn.

get a life for goodness sakes..

*out -like a light*

You're one of the good guys...I can tell by that white Stetson. But the mask seems hide your great cheekbones....lol. And your horse looks like silver in the sun.

As before I offer an invite to Mr."Anonoposter" to come into chat......Prove to us that you can stand up to us and be a man/woman. That is if your Mommy lets you out of your cage.

How about 7pm EST time.....? Is that time enough for you to wash out mommy underwear before you join us?

nice try there eLLe poseur..but sorry you forgot 2 very vital things that I usually add to my post. HA!
you lose
do not pass GO and DO NOT collect $100
which btw would be about 6 bucks Canadian hehe

*out- like eminems lyrics*

lol on the ricky martin comment, even i did not pick up on that whilst delivering the innuendo comment - okay i'll stay out of this fray.....

um, ;)

By the way that was NOT me. Funny, though, poseur.

haha

*out*

you LOVE being on top, don't you?

There we go...

Do we have consensus on the hierarchy?

ricky martin?

HELP, I'M SURROUNDED BY INNUENDO.....

alright CYN!!! you go girl.LOL

*out to shop*
TTFN

i have NEVER turned my back on the width. been there since the beginning, a real fan. and look how you have responded...

The technology was suppressed by the Detroit auto-mafia and the Wankel engine publicly discredited by an elaborate disinformation campaign...

I may have to be killed now.

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My take is "Aja" and "Gaucho" have the most unconventional song structures in the Dan catalog, "Royal Scam" "Negative Girl" (hey there... I'll get back to you)and "West of Hollywood" are pretty unique also...

Big hugs to Jen... wherever you be roaming...

t

questioning widths now are we? as if we didn't have enough to do around here.....

blaise- are you trying to say i don't exist? i have never questioned the width, now why have you fallen as a disbeliever?

or: "Appalachia Upchuck Remembered"

quote of the day: open up a big can of whoop ass

runner up: pencil prick bug fucker

Cyn and eLLie sittin in a tree
Sharing stories of Aaron and Cody.
First comes mud
Then comes Mummies
Then cums Mark on the three-way's tummies.

Don't mess with the cub of a Lioness....or you'll be mincemeat pie. That young man of mine has more going for him then you could ever HOPE to accomplish (of course thats if they let you out of the basement) he has the guts to admit who he is on the GB....more than we can say for you. Fair warning...I have a very good friend who can't say what his job is or he'd have to kill you. One call to him and we WILL know who you are, where you live, what you ate for breakfast, the last time you had sex (if ever)As far as eLLe's knowing it wasn't me....whenever you post as her..I too can tell. Anyway, I'll take it one step further than eLLe(she was being polite to you).

Eat Shit, you pencil prick bug fucker!

lp, tones -

thanks guys. i know my mis guy will tell me it's me! ha. he never takes responsibility for anything that goes wrong computer-wise around here.

How 'bout YOU keep Dreaming sweetie..I'm 5'11'' and Aaron bloody well towers over me. Together we'd be happy to open up a big can of whoop ass and share it with you.
hahahahahhhahahaaaaa you crack me up..NOT

jeesh, even I remember Cyn saying she had her Cody WAAAAHAY before Kathie Lee had her Cody
*rolls eyes like Kathie Lee*

take that visual and rotate..will yah : )~~~~

sh - i've been emailing you all day! yell at your mis guy....

gina, you look just like my best friend from high school, good karma....no audio, but was able to unzip just fine...

U jes keep dreamin, eLLe, for now, you'll have to have your son do that. nobody will kiss your ass cept family

Just sent you a test...

:-)

LP?
Tones?

could someone try to send an e-mail to me? this is a test, this is only a test...

thanks

...yes it's chain lightening
it feels sooooooooo good...

sh

hello? my 19 year old son's name is Aaron..Cyn's son's name is Cody.. get a program from the man at the door will yah?
kiss my ass twice..lard ass

YOU WILL BE MINE. YOU WILL BE MINE. YOU WILL BE MINE.

tones: Mazda engineers once took a wrong turn at a convention center and ended up in an avant-garde art show rather than the auto show. Inspired by a Yoko painting, they invented the Wankel engine and the rest lives in engineering infamy...

it was really a pic of a wanker...there's your Steely Dan link...

What Steely Dan recording strays outside the lines most? These guys stayed pretty tight - ain't no free jazz here... Musicians, we'll need help. Is it Show Biz Kidz with like a one chord vamp? Is it the meanering parody-like structure of Your Gold Teeth I. Is it the hyper bop shuffle of Parker's Band? Is it the Shorter/Gadd combo of Aja? DrWu? Black Friday> Is it the tour de Jazz over complex chords patterns of West of Hollywood. Is it the slinky Negative Girl??? If we stray to Walter's album, stuff like Surfand/or Die and Hat Too Flat would seem to win hands down...

kiss my ass..turkey!

of course Gina.. I have another 10 months to go..possibly..unless my greencard comes through. If it doesn't I guess I will go for the "Master" plan, another 2 years of study after that.
Who can say..? going with the flow

Cyn and eLLe WILL get along. Cyn and eLLe WILL lick each other's anus.

waiting for the fireworks to be calling it quits for April 'round midnight ..

jemineetje =gosh, geez, sheesh .. it's the GB Asylumni kind of around here these days, wacko, loony, still grinning Pepe-scarwise and one fine day, when Gaucho's all grown up, i have this sombrero for him to wear that's now being kept by a stuffed monkey named Curious George. no, wait a sec, we took the sombrero before handing George over to Gaucho who has this doggy masculine walk at a very young age i must say, hm ..

just Tree Hopping to find out if i still lost it.

there's lots of exciting music out there besides the Dan, we're all aware of that. heard Chris Potter on a jazzstation recently btw and it sounded great.

how were things in Nawlins???

hi angel :-) keeping the celestial company, are ya?
having a spirited pup dog around is kind of heaven to me now, really!

eLLe, jemineetje, you noticed, i am shocked
anything new under the herbed poisun?
as in, still learning about the secret life of plants?

okay, off again.
twas a busy day, fleemarket, lots of people, lots of orange for that's the royal colour around here, lots of sun and some nice new young friends who study to become actors, they bought some books, a Sartre play, Peer Gynt, Saul Bellow, Hitler's Pope, Günter Grass. haven't gotten around the music area yet, but will attend a performance, a play of Pessoa, the Portugese writer/poet. really really nice. ample time to find out if they know Steely Dan.
sold a fifties copy of The Picture Of Dorian Gray-Oscar Wilde btw, mister Daddy G ..

off now, didn't i just said so already?

Banyan Tree Blabby Bow,
Gina

Hey eLLe stop impersonating Cyn. It's unbecoming of both of you. In fact, why don't you both unbecome.

Cyn I know when it's you and when it's not.The poseur Cyn doesn't spell correctly. They're just trying to stir up even more shit
bah!

no hestitations
no tears and no hearts breaking
no remorse
: )
TVM

Again....I didn't post that last one. Have an alibi to prove it..Hey Cody, come here..tell these good folk you were on the computer at that time.

Yo listen up, I was on the computer at that time and if you have a problem come to our town and we will solve this. Peace, The one and only Cody.

The words of an 18 yr old. He doesn't lie...

hey, what's my line?

BORING!
eLLe takes the cake for the most inane, useless posts of the GB, including unispired bitterness!
Congratulations.

CLEVER!

if you MUST KNOW FFS.. you kinky so n so
now I gotta tell you everything I did babeeee ?
traces are everywhere in our happy home..

LOL I'm being cryptic using SD lyrics.. clever huh? LOL and original too, eh?

and answering a post Gina fired at me, when I sent in my pic.
she said, "look now everyone can see your picture"
don't ask me what it means, cause I have NO IDEA.
maybe Lewis Black has the answer

Cyn have another drink.

Yogi Bera, of course.

Is she talking?

ELLE, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!

Oh, I thought the baby was pink but ok... W1P... check.
Huh.. Thelonius, my old friend too is up there. Look at that. check.
Btw , Paige is female, right? Reminds me of Not My Nancy briefly infiltrating the babe choir last year. :-)
Babs, Fez, Blacksgirl, BME and other similar chat dwellers never posted here. out.
Chat? What's that? urgh goooey

OH NO - CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE START POSTING RELEVANT MATERIAL?! SHE'S AT IT AGAIN....

Has anyone seen Zsa Zsa?

Bon Marche as far as I can tell...or possibly the Guitar Centre-shoot the breeze with the dudes.

The Yoga Teachers here in Oregon now all must be certified, even when they are teaching at the Community Rec. Centre level. It's a new thing, but they get to be called "Yogi's"
I have a collection of L.L. Bean bears that my daughter and Hopsing give me as gifts every now and again. Also I make old fashioned cloth dolls, but I only have 2 of them, the rest have been made for gifts.
Now look, there is your picture for everyone to see Gina.

posting steely dan rocks at that site, jim....lol - hey, how was the trippage?

Just saw the Eminem article from that website on the GB.
So Eminem has a dynamite stick covering his brain. You know the object between his legs. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

But seriously, folks. What would happen if the dynamite went off? One of those things that make you go HMMMMMM! ;)

Monopoly, 21, checkers and chess. Meet you up in heaven if you make the list. Obviously, W1P doesn't make the list despite my near nude photo in the GB family album (a snapshot in the family album, daddy tell me what else did you leave for me?)

no. If I include Negative Girl, I have to consider Positive Boy and then the whole process is flawed.
Now z and/or Warren Kruger, randy reichart, DJ mitch, Walter Becker, that's another story...

For those of you who didn't attend, or did attend and want to relive the experience, check out the Tycoon Dog website, which features mp3's of all of the set from March 22nd,

including "Stormy Monday" featuring Elliott Randall.

I've checked out the disc from the show, and am pleased to report that there are memorable performances from the band as well as the CROWD! For instance, during DIY, a loud reception takes place just before the final refrain, which was when, I believe, some Dan friendly friends were connecting and meeting Oleander!
Lots of wonderful crowd response and good music.....
so, when you get a chance, check out:

www.tycoondog.com

and go to the live mp3 link on the site....

Aus: Congrats dude! You deserve everything and more....
Chere: how's it goin, juju chile?
LadyB: sorry to hear about everything....but your husband, like the man I met at LBB, certainly contributed to your unhappiness, and continues to do so in this forum.....hang in there...
NMN: it's early in the season, bro....see how the Sox are doin in July.....

ygk

oooooooooh

despite not making blaise's "authentic posters of the guestBook" list, i have managed to salvage a bit of self esteem and press on. i do keep sneaking glances at myself in the mirror, just to make sure there's actually a tangible being posting this.

rubyBaby- i just wanted to say (as a painter, not asking you out or anything :)...that you have the loveliest face! so kind and ethereal- and dare i say- like the madonna or a saint?

come to think of it- what ARE you doing for dinner?

tones- how will i ever hope to know your complex glory, if you don't submit a pic to the wall of fame?

Yeah dano, I thought the top 10 FAQ was funny. I think some folks took it too seriously though! LOL, as they say on the web.

I am teaching myself Javascript and Dreamweaver just now, and the right side of my brain is hurtin'

BTW, Re the vitriol here lately, MY dad is bigger than ALL of yours!!

Peace and luv

Al

Working on Bills, calendars, etc... Boring! Got Radio Free Dandom keeping me company. :-)

LP: Too bad about your husband not working there. I have a friend who works at Cal Arts, which I think is a cool thing to have on ones resume. Berklee sounds like the same sort of place.
Keep us posted on the comings and goings. "This is LP reporting live from the front of the Berklee School of Music..." LOL

Watched the entire CNN Worldbeat with my husband this morning. It was a very well done show all around. We now have a real appreciation for Blue Man Group. What a hard thing that is, making pvc pipe into musical instruments. Fascinating stuff.
The Miles Davis footage from the 50's was OUTSTANDING! Considering its age, it had a real feel for the session. We tried to find out who's footage it was, but there were no credits on the end of the show concerning it. Too bad.
I saw Miles play back in the late 70's and my one real memory for the event was how very angry he was at the time. I was just working the concert and had no idea what he was all about. I wish I could go back again in time and see it now.

What time are you chatting LP, maybe I will still be home....

That Trans-Island Skyway.... (currently on RFD)

Wormster , did you do the top 10 faq , it was really funny , just your type of work mate , or the blaiser??

I know for a fact that Yoko wasn't responsible for the "French Fry" sculpture or others of like "quality".

She was too busy sabotaging Apollo 13 and causing the gas crises.

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blaise - i'm holding you responsible if this place blows up again - are we that desperate for a post? it was dead here this morning, must be the weather (gorgeous!)......so, hahahaha, yes, the CARS! they're losers! aha! enter evil laugh.....so, wanna chat, B at day's end?

anyway - no angel, my hubby is cool but not that cool, he works in an office across the street from the main building for berklee, and the nikon is ready

it is kinda dead in here though, isn't it?

steely dan rocks still being posted at eminem sites everywhere - too funny!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

oh NO! NO NO NO!!!!!

oh no

ahem

Got a feeling I've been here before...

Berklee Library - Polish your songwriting craft using the examples of Becker, Fagen and.. huh... Ocasek?

http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2000/Pattison.html

Eminem vs Steely Dan III - the saga

http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,26263,00.html

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Good morning all. No work today, wahoo......
Great chatting with you all last night. The hot tub just gets more filled with people. Quite a challenge to keep up. :-)

LP: You husband works at Berklee? Oh, now I am sooooo jealous.
Can I come and do Dan watch with you....?

Blaise: I just recently caught John Granatano's line about the signal to noise. Thought it was very funny. Whenever we try to do a GB name list we go through this. I think Paige is a woman.
(although I could be wrong). I think you missed Greenearings on your occasional post list. (a man, when last known). :-)

KD: Ask all the questions you want. As you pointed out, that is what your profession asks you to do. I always find it refreshing.

Jimbo: Now you are telling me that there is a music video of Snowbound, too. AAAAAH!
So, what do they do when "some loser fires off a flare"? Do you remember?

Midnight Cruiser: Thanks for the review. Sorry DMB was not at it's best. Big article in our Auto Club magazine about the Goodyear Blimp. Thought of your company's website. :-)

Gina: Great picture of you and Gaucho. I was looking at the picture and said to my husband, what does she have in her hand.
He says, a cucumber. Didn't you read the caption? A difference in what people look at first. :-)

May check in later and act like the day crew.... :-)

Let's sleep in today....

chat?

hi gang

quick note
up to my eyeballs in work

escaped saurday night with Jim#, his wife Amy and Aja

dinner then we caught a rousing set by Astral Project at the Funky Butt

sunday - set up stage at the Acura tent which started off with the White Eagle Mardi Gras Indians, ran off and caught Germaine Bazzle, a little John Boutte,Savoy Doucet Cajun at the Fa Do-Do, then held it down for a little Irma Thomas (N.O.'s queen of soul), a rousing funky set by Dr John, then Van Morrison did not disappoint (even covered Georgia on My Mind and Brand New Cadillac (The Clash) and a rare treat of Moondance.

great weather, large crowds
plenty of great music

back to the coal mine

wt

LP....Ya just gotta LOVE a good parking lot.......lolol.

years ago...

t: I thought Epstein died after falling on one of Yoko's glass sculptures...

Without Yoko (and those of like ilk) Universities across the nation would not have been enlightened by visionary works of art such as "the French Fries from Hell" that adorned the entrance to the University of Florida science library some years from now. The sculpture consisted of about 9 or 10 18 foot segments of skyscraper-quality steel I-beams painted McDonald's french fries yellow and arranged in a lovely "pick-up stix" fashion. They were adorned with an azalea garnish at the bottom. It is rumored they have been removed...

the yoko thread below - to twist off of it - any other julian lennon fans out there?

please know the tri-pod has been firmly set on the office across the street from berklee school of music where hubby works to get a good shot of df/wb this week - will keep you apprised of any sitings - nmn, maybe our lunch this week should be in the back bay to catch a glimpse!

sunny sam so wins the prize of most creative pic post - too perfect!

any reports from new orleans? aja, find a cyber-cafe down there and let us in on it all..... is wormy, our resident j. crew ad behaving?

jim and stevie dan, thanks for sharing the evening with us, good report!

paige - good thread genesis on chain lightening, and i thought it was about a drug deal, silly me - this place is great for that; and with a link to oleander and you got it all.....

cyn, just lovin that urban renewal of the new century, don't you? funny real estate market, the dumbing down of development.....

shout out to angel

happy day to all

I stand corrected (by myself)

At the time those posts were made it was midnight(give or take a few seconds) here on the East Coast and I was sound asleep.

And Floridavid... you know how it goes...

KD!!!! I'm sooooo disappointed....you mean you didn't know the Beatles? And you're not from Liverpool??? Damn, just when I was gonna be your "new best friend"........LOL!
BTW...I didn't post that comment last night(at 7:01:27). At that point and time I was enjoying a great dinner with my family, insisted eldest son be there, so I HAD to be also.
Don't forget KD, she said she "HAD" the big book, didn't say she "READ" it.

As much as I would love to take credit for it, I didn't post the one at 6:56:39 either.

My apologies to Beast w/o an entry in the list here and whoever didn't fit the mind reel at that particular moment.

So you say there's a race
Of men in the trees
You're for tough legislation
I demand a recount!

current distingishable (if not distinguished) guestbook regulars:

aja, angel, anne gyna, cara mia, Gina, ruby baby, miz Ducky, Robin, oleander, sam,
Cyn, LP, |||||, snakehips, Jen, Lady Bayside, eLLe, Chere, Lisa G,...

Aussie, kd, ed, Edd, Clas, Lars, YGK, Howard, Mu, Blaise, Wormy, Zeke, jk, aa, tones, stevie dan, jon @, Mr Chow, Hank Silvers, Sociable Herm, Commodian, Big Fan, Roy.Scam, StAl, Q, MNM, Jimbo, Jim, TWM, dano, fezo, Hutch, Midnite, Paige, JWMalibu, Geoff H2F, Daddy G,...

and yes, Hi, I'm one of those btw...

and one could go on... counting more occasional ones (Hoops, Pete Fogel, webdrone, Earthbound, Lester, looez, Joker, Tom Bayside and so on and so on...)

yep, speaks for itself...

Know-it-all whoever - The same 20 men posting here maybe? yeah... although I can count just as many women. That's not even considering the occasional contributors, btw. A lively, resourceful online community it is, most of the time and despite the expected distortion (as Granatino puts it: a sometimes high noise ratio) that the format of the venue implies.

About the incident - Someone should have simply denied the whole thing and walk away from this basically untouched since we usually side with the non-anon when in doubt. The question I have for the interested party here is this: has this anger found its way here before by any chance, like I suspect it did?

I like Cruiser's embrace of the format for what it is. There are highs and lows but people have thrived here for years with little problems already.
With time, the page scrolls into a semi-oblivion by itself.
carry on

Mu-man - Yep, matter of taste, definitely. But just a coupla points:

The Beatles "cost" Julian a father. It also took care of Julian & Cynthia for life. That Yoko is still used as a scapegoat for the Beatles breakup (btw, Yoko didn't kill Brian Epstein either) and John's marriage is ludicrous, and an insult to John. He wasn't conned. He made a choice.

As for John's music, "...Walrus" through Abby Road was written through the "Yoko" years. And I think "Jealous Guy", "Mind Games", and others rank pretty high as songs. It's when J & Y broke up that things got spotty musically, for me anyway...

Nanker-Phelge

Hoops! Stick to the digest buddy.

I too, prefer the GB to be unedited, warts and all. Just makes for a more honest and interesting read. I'm just gonna scroll past what I don't want to read anyway and someone else might enjoy reading what I don't. We're mostly big boys and girls and can judge for ourselves what we care to read.

just got home from the Dave Matthews Band concert in Raleigh, NC a few minutes ago....since Opti couldn't make it, a one time GB regular from a couple of years ago, Ms. foxinsocks, was kind enough to join me for the evening since she's a major DMB head from way back....Dave was pretty well wasted when he took the stage at just after 8 pm and the first few songs really dragged in tempo compared to the way I've heard the band play them before....as some of the bourbon and herb began to wear off Dave launched into what was quite a good set to finish up the night....both foxinsocks and I agreed that it wasn't the best DMB show that either of us had ever been to but it was still a pretty good show....we missed the opening act....traffic jam from hell trying to get into Walnut Creek tonight....I thought the boys could have played a few more tunes on the encore too....show was over by 10:20 pm and the noise curfew there isn't until 11 pm....all in all, not a bad night though....good company and I was glad to have the extra Tee shirt to put on before the night was done....it was quite chilly by the time we left Raleigh and my shorts and Tee just weren't cutting it....Dave's still capable of putting on a really good show but I think it would be better for him and the fans if he didn't get quite so loaded BEFORE the shows in the future....if the trend keeps up, I think his live following will start to suffer over the next couple of tours if his health doesn't get him first.

oh well, back to WV to pick up the Mrs. tomorrow....I sure have missed that woman! I'll be so glad to get her back home while we still have the rest of this week off for vacation to just putter around the house and do a little yard work and enjoy each others company again.

steviedan....here's a link to the pic I told you about....it was me & Allan Holdsworth after a show he did in Winston-Salem about a decade ago....he's right up there with Eric Johnson on playing some of the tastiest inversions you'd ever want to hear on a guitar.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/Allan-Jim.html

the man had just played a 2 1/2 hour set and looked cool and composed....I was worn out from just getting into the show! He was such a nice guy and took all the time in the world to talk to anyone who wanted to talk about music or just get an autograph. And what a phenomenal guitarist!

Edd.....still no indigo buntings here yet....I hope they come back this year, I just love their color and want to get some good pics of them.

catch you good folks in a couple of days.

MC

To Angel-

In reference to the music videos done by Don and Walt as solo artists, I know that Don did one for the Nightfly which was "New Frontier." It was a video mixing live action with animation and a anti-nuclear message. The video showed a man inviting his girlfriend to spend the night with him in an underground nuclear shelter.

I don't have the tape for it, but I know that I did tape "Tommorrow's Girls" and "Snowbound" when they were on VH1.
I'll have to look because I recorded them on seperate tapes.

Fuck, you're nuts! 'Hope you're joking. Play some Percodan Scrabble. When the hell
did I insult you? Mightabeen after you went off on some of the ones' whose posts
actually count for something. All I did was ask if your joke about dissecting lyrics is
true or not. I thought it was a joke in the first place, then I changed my mind for a sec,
but I'm assuming that you getting upset that I questioned that in the first place means
that it was a joke to begin with. All I can say is that I'm relieved. Relieved that it is a
joke, you were just messing with us. You do keep your humour pretty dry!

This, I don't understand (please try running your posts through a
spellcheck/grammar check):

LMFAO!!!!!

Well said pops.

I think it's great that this board is unedited.

There is mindless drivel, abuse, and any other number of bad vibes that you can think of all over the planet.

There is also inspiration, hope, love, and any other number of great vibes that you can think of all over this planet.

This messege board is a true reflection of the world - sometimes, you just have to dig a little to find the good stuff.

I lift a glass of wine to all of you,

DG

Don't stop now, kiddies. I'm not ready for bed yet.

t: I don't mind coloring outside the lines. This place is. In my day gig - it's the 27th edit of a product. It's simply too much effort to pick up the torn pieces of paper in a gale and put the picture back together. Yoko One stirs strong feelings. Her sense of exploration is to be applauded. The rest is a matter of taste. John's writing was certainly never the same. Some prefer Yoko John or pre-Yoko John. As a persnal preference, give me In My Life or Strawberry Fields over Imagine or Starting Over. I do dig the verse to Instant Karma (but not the chorus).

She did make John happy and fulfilled. She did cost Julian a Dad. Hey Jude can't fill that void.

BTW, in case it slipped by... Tristan Fabriani is the handle used by Donald Fagen while playing for Jay and the Americans. Walter Becker used Gustav Mahler. Where was Alma?

Man, I was digging Horace Silver's recent (1996) Hardbop Grandpop until I got greedy updating Windows Media for the Mac and fucked up the preferences. The lead tune I Want you has some very Dan-like horns and a solo reminiscent of the one in Teahouse on the Tracks. Hippest Cat swings hard. Anybody have this album??

In honor of Yoko and Hoops, how abouteverybody goes anon tomorrow!? We can find a Nirvana of chaos and absurdity!

Ooooooooooooh.

Why am I always asking others for their opinion. Hmm.

I'm pretty self-absorbed, but I guess I'm not as self-absorbed as some of the kids out there who are taken aback by those of whom who feel like knowing what others think.

I respect the opinions of cats who post on this board, that's why I post my email address and don't mind having people know what I look like or what my full name is.

That's all I got. Why do I want to know other's opinions? Fuck. I don't think I've asked that much. In fact, I used to kick myself for not asking enough for the opinions of the people who post on this board (all of whom, no exception in the last few months, know more than me on most topics and usually have a ton to say).

Is this a problem? Is this an issue? I've been pushing this "Aja" docu on my friends for over a year, wanting to turn them on without imposing. After a game, you go to the coach and then (once they dress, or put a towel on) the player for opinions. I'm interested. I want to learn. I want to know why people think certain ways. I have a LOT to learn.

And as I learn, I'm going to ask questions, and throw out comments on what I'm thinkin'. How I'm growing, what I'm feeling; all the while seeking the counsel of those of whom who give me something I can dance to.

If I'm stepping over lines by asking too much, let me know. No one has taken me to task as of yet, and they've had plenty of opportunities.

Promise?

wind it up baby!!
speaking of people telling their "friends" on line that it's their birthday.. how else would they know????unless you appoint a Happy Birthday person..how "boot" you aa?
speaking of vanities tomorrow night Allie Mac gets her birthday wish ..a performance by Sting-a ; )

*out*

Yeah KD, how about that? She has a point there. She's talkin to YOU boy! Wake up.

KD- why are you asking everybody else for their opinion? I'm not talking to them I'm talking to you. I'm talking about your interaction with me, which has been a very bad vibe so far.

Posting anonymously sometimes can be good--just wanted the view point to be expressed and evaluated on it's own merit or lack there of without personal attachment.

But Don and Walt promised me Percodan Scrabble! Something about two Purples trading up for one yellow, which is worth half of one red, with the full red being for veterinary use only. Have I the colors or prescriptions fucked up?!

Help!

You have friends?

I'm going to throw this one to the audience, like my man Walt:

Why is it, ladies and gentleman, do I speak to Elle in a different manner than her kids and said kids' friends speak to her?

---

The hand-picked winner gets a free picture of me, drunk off my ass, throwing myself up against the 1st-floor wall of a dorm room, wearing my best friend's ex-girlfriend's faux-leather coat.

no! like the skunk they were smoking..do you have a sense of humour?sorry humor? or.....(?)

it's Vicodin, sweetie not Percodan ummkay?

Your kids speak to you?

don't make me scroll back through all this shit, KD.. you've been on my case, in my face since I got here. You're little comments like.." please eLLe teach us more..etc."
My own children and all their friends don't speak to me like that, why are you?

that was my fart

...like that dead skunk they saw in the road.

Donald: "I've seen fire, and I've seen rain."

Blaise: Is "defensive" Canadian for "responding to a parenthesized throw-away rant?"

Did anyone else get the idea that I know the Beatles personally by talking about them in a Steely Dan Guestbook? If anyone else got a whiff of this, I apologize.

Fuck, you're nuts! 'Hope you're joking. Play some Percodan Scrabble. When the hell did I insult you? Mightabeen after you went off on some of the ones' whose posts actually count for something. All I did was ask if your joke about dissecting lyrics is true or not. I thought it was a joke in the first place, then I changed my mind for a sec, but I'm assuming that you getting upset that I questioned that in the first place means that it was a joke to begin with. All I can say is that I'm relieved. Relieved that it is a joke, you were just messing with us. You do keep your humour pretty dry!

This, I don't understand (please try running your posts through a spellcheck/grammar check):

"hell yeah and i hate when I'm plugged in and someone says something which requires me to move (with my guitar strapped on) cause I just painted the interior of the house.. you know..all those little scratches..*sigh* sometimes I wonder why I care so much LMFJHHO"

Please explain. Thanks!

lOOk as she kisses the boys ass.

KD- no I wasn't kidding. As they ( W & D ) said themselves in the RS interview.. it's just a bunch of stuff that happened to them..
and I just always thought, "hey I can relate to that,cause the same kinda thing is happening to me"
I grew up around musicians too. There was always someone jamming in the basement it seemed. We used to get quite a laugh out of Sd kicking society up the ass.
Like I just said ..in retrospec I guess you had to be there, as it was a running commentary of the times. imo.
why do you ask KD?I mean besides the fact that you think I'm useless, stupid, immature, and uhm,,,,what else???
grow down will yah..( inside joke)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Cyn come back, your other half needs you.

hell yeah and i hate when I'm plugged in and someone says something which requires me to move (with my guitar strapped on) cause I just painted the interior of the house.. you know..all those little scratches..*sigh* sometimes I wonder why I care so much LMFJHHO

KD.. why so defensive? because you've insulted me for no reason?
n/p
I have the "big" book too, and I saw the cold turkey and Biafra thing in there too...I went and had a look after you said it was just John.
I'm only saying, because I am saying stuff out of memory, which at times is clouded and I don't take offence at someone correcting me. It just seemed like you know them all personally by what you write. John and the Beatles meant alot to us too.
and I've always added Yoko..
hehee I liked how they included the proper papers to fill out to return a MBO. signed John of Bag.: )
see..Yoko knew there were no rules.."yes"

I'm sorry, but, "Actinopterygii?"

Somebody please take out the white trash.

"( please correct me if I'm wrong here KD since it's clear you were/are a buddy of the Beatles, but then again anyone can pull up info @the speed of light and quote it in here)"

I didn't do that. All I did was express my gratitude towards Yoko Ono for giving her love to a man who means a great deal to me and my family.

I read that big Beatles coffee book, yeah, because my parents gave it to me for Christmas. I couldn't pull that up at the speed of light because it's halfway across the room, and I have my guitar strapped on.

If you want me to stop correcting you, fine. If anyone else does, please speak up.

(only those of whom who have either submitted a pic to St. Al, edited what we call a "Dandom Digest," or had her wonderful site shut down by a provider for being too popular are allowed to "speak up.")

Elle, seriously, were you kidding about the lyric thing?

LoL Ed B.- Einstein was obviously "before" the skunk, but you had to actually "be" there at the time, time outta mind, heavy rollers,
are you holding a mystical spheeEEEEEEEEEEEEErrrrrrrrrrrrrrre?
heh heh Ed.

the only reason Julian said that about Yoko is because Yoko hasn't given much of John's estate to him... he wanted some of John's art, and I think ( please correct me if I'm wrong here KD since it's clear you were/are a buddy of the Beatles, but then again anyone can pull up info @the speed of light and quote it in here) some of his guitars. But I'm quite sure, it's the art. In any case it's a simple matter. Julian didn't get what he wanted,so he diss's Yoko.

don't blame it on Yoko..and don't worry if you don't know that song or the Bare Naked Ladies.. they're ( Canadian)

and to the one calling me simple minded, merci
remember! less is more

nothing worse than a freaking asshole spewing shit all over the place, and then trying to mop it up with his small dick.
do you own an expensive little ass rocket too?

I've updated the gallery with the latest batch of pictures.

Edd -- next edit I plan on switching over to thumbnails. Too lazy I guess... Actually, to be honest, too busy lately. Thanks for your offer though but I'm already halfway through it.

Jim -- DAMN!

Now this is a perfect example of what KD is saying. Had I known it was Jim posting the suggestion I edit this particular passage I might have worded my response a little different? You see I know Jim very well. He's my buddy and confidant when it comes to things Steely Dan. Knowing this ahead of time gives you more insight into exactly what the poster is trying to convey. It's one thing to post mindless drivel like the post from the person with the ~ handle, it's another thing altogether to try to make a point about something specific, yet not accept responsibility.

KD is right -- it’s Chickenshit. But will I take steps to prevent it from happening? No. Remember, I'm the custodian of this Guestbook. Not the moderator.

Signed, your faithful Libertarian StAl.

..also I was writing to Lady Bayside, not "them" lame ass

Vive la difference!

um, excuse me. aa is it?
I said, "I wish you the best of "Everything".

Within everything there is everything as well as nothing, much like the laws of the universe, always in contradiction and expansion, yet always in harmonic resonance.
tsk, tsk, little man

witch doctor? fear =ignorance, check out a little ancient medicine. It's like that old saying, "a day without sun is like
you know, night".

I wrote that Pat and I stand by it.

jim 'hoops' mckay

Flip a coin on Yoko's music. She made John Lennon happy and helped him realize who he truly was. I'll be forever grateful to her for helping John grow into what he became.

Where you been?

reggae music...

Einstein, Zappa, Hendrix, The Beatles, the Stones, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Martin Luther King, Jesus, Buddha, The Ramones, Madonna, Sex Pistols, Picasso, Warhol, Charlie Parker, Coltrane, Miles Davis, Eno, The Grateful Dead, John Cage...

Politicians, lawyers, anybody who's ever held a job (and that would exclude Julian Lennon), everybody on this GB...

"Music" as defined by "musicologists" = not coloring outside the lines of what they have been told is music.

Fuck the the Berklee College of Music "musicologists". You can't be taught "soul" and you can't measure it. Sound + soul = music, whether it has "acceptable" structure or not.

Now for specifics: early Yoko Ono *music* is sound sculpture. Very easy to miss the point if you're looking for "songs". Gradually conventional song structures were used, and experimented with. This is first hand knowledge. I actually listen to the stuff, and *like* it. Fact is, Julian Lennon has never put out an album as good as anything in Yoko's catolog. And yes that's counting the second side of "Live Peace". Julian is just lucky to sound a little bit like his dad; Yoko has never tried to sound like anyone but herself. So what's a "musicologist" to do? Can't compare her to anything. So "she must not know what she's doing."

They should call Yoko. I'm sure she'd gladly tudor them.

t

Btw... Mu, thanks for the chance to rant ;-)

ed (and Walt, for that matter): why couldn't that song be on "11 Tracks?" Thank God for illegal file-sharing.

Hey StAL,

Dump the lawyers,

And all the jiveasses and the true believers
The bullshit givers and receivers
Here today tomorrow gone
To the triage tent in the great beyond
Wherein the angel tangoes with the infidel

This says it all about the GB to me.

Hey,
Seems like lots of pseudo-Intelluctuals positing about lots of
nonsense and ramdom generalizations about the makeup of who it
is that reads and write on these yellow pages.

So enough of that from me too ok?

CNN worldbeat was/is amusing which one of the blue guys is
walter and or Donald?

P.S When did Einstein leave Steely Dan was it before or after
Skunk?

Ed (tongue in cheek) Beatty

For anyone that missed the CNN interview, it can be found here:

http://www.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/03/wb.steelydan/index.html

it proves that you mean what you say and you have the self-respect to own up to what you say. You want me to answer for Topsoiliant Whatever and Jon@his yellow stripe? Why not point the question in their direction, and sign it with a consistent handle that we can attribute with.

It's about cred, very few on this board have the balls to try and establish some, because they're too scared to let everyone that reads this board know how THEY really feel.

It's sad, you can see right through the anon postings and right into their soul, and there still isn't much you can do about it but try and make their lives a little uneasy by questioning manhood and using nasty language. I'm doing my part, especially when these basement cats take the time to go after those who don't deserve it.

How not posting with a "consistent handle" makes someone a "chickenshit?" Isn't it the message that counts, really? What does putting some dorked-out construction like "Topsoiling Myself" or "Douche-nozzle at his yellow stripe" in the name field prove?

How not posting with a "consistent handle" makes someone a "chickenshit?" Isn't it the message that counts, really? What does putting some dorked-out construction like "Topsoiling Myself" or "Douche-nozzle at his yellow stripe" in the name field prove?

Hi folks, been awhile eh? You all learning and growing!? Well, Hmmm. Let's see now... This is kool in a way. Fine grist, no doubt. I'll try to shed further grace in due time (if I haven't already;) on current goings-on, dunchooworry, but I just have to disentangle myself from the three women I'm fucking these days. Was five, but I dumped the two cuckholders a long time ago all ready. Told 'em to go TALK to the guy. On second thought as one of the three is now reminding me, maybe I'll just stay occupied. Got too many publics at this point. But this one is a nice opportunity to begin old acquaintances and end new ones.

Oh, and StAl chill out, before I start treating you like oleander. This much is certain, when a story like this hits: Watch -- if you can see that well -- or better, listen for that vacuum-sealed sound, as all the pussy-whipped slave-boys' manhood recede into their intestine-absent bellies. People in this (don't ask WHICH) culture relate to each other like gaddam scared children. Nothing scarier than UGH physical aggression!

But the people (as Dosti and Nicki knew) who resort to physical aggression lack brains NOT bALLS. And there's nothing more important as those sweet baby machines know than BALLS. I mean, of course, as long as THEY THEMSELVES, bless their tender hearts, aren't the object of the aggression. Oh no. "I love a man who's a tiger in public and is tender and caring at home." And then when you USE yer brains to call a hypocrite to task, it's called EMOTIONAL abuse. Uh HUH. Look how funny this KiD is out looking for a "fight," excusing the other two as if to honor them, when it actually scandalizes them. Frustrated by what he THINKS is a moving target. Too bad he doesn't realize worthy targets don't inhere in handles. As said: Balls over brains, but BIGGER balls WITH brains.

Nothing worse than having to actually FIGHT for something. Nothing worse than actually RISKING what somnambulance your beauty (read pussy) or brains (read pussy) can bring you, by LEARNING -- by FORGETTING -- by FORGIVING something. Nothing worse than actually CARING ABOUT SOMETHING more than your own little priggish safety and delusory self-image. Nothing worse than taking a tragedy by its roots and not by its convenient fruits. Freaking families: baby factories and security blankets. Nothing more. Bullshit. Nobody loves no one. Nor do they own them. True Love wants no marriage license (nor license), nor kids, nor even sex. But behold: Truly Love, and you can have all of them up to, well, up to here.

I see LGee has weighed-in with her usual profound advice when SHE decides it's time to get serious: "We're thinking of you"???? And watch while you snore the wheel go round and round... ALL THAT BULLSHIT about education, blah blah blah, what a JOKE when the most important shit is right in front of your eyes, and you are only with the most gargantuan of efforts able to THINK nevermind DO any SINGLE GODDAM thing to budge it from the way your own mommy and daddy acted and felt!

Thanks to LadyB for the shout: Hun, if it had been me, you wouldn't have needed JH either. (And of course if you're over 130 or under 5'6, it WOULDN'T have been me;) I hope you three (four, five, six?) work things out the way they should be; which is to say, fuhgeddaboutit! This, like every other difficulty COULD be an opportunity for growth, but will it? Or will it simply be more reason, like the nightly news, to get the fuck OUTTAHERE... to rest assured that at least that's not ME/US, or it's "in my past," yeah I'm over it now, yeah, i've moved on.... LOL; yeah, there but for the grace of god.

Yeah eLLe, you witchdoctor, you wish them the "best" which simply means "more of the same." People see relationships as "achievements" -- proud OHHH SO PROUD -- until the moment they "lose" and then it's right back to the womb.

Well the only way to live life as "achievement" is not to worry about losing -- even the stupid Yankees know that. But they have an excuse, they're 2001 years old. What's important is not winning, but knowing how. If you have never "won" then you may never know. But if you know, you never need to win. If you're not cut out for struggling (in this era, most preeminently with yourself, if you can find him), you're not cut out for "winning" either, and therefore talking.

Have a nice week everyone!

Vive La Similarite and

Vive La Verite and

Vive L'Amour...

oh and

Viva Steely Dan too!

just figured it would be a nice change of scenery, having feathers around here to make it a happy day after all. hope eLLe will play along?

Chicken S. Hit

Elle- "Can I ask ( what probably seems like a silly question) but why do some of you here spend so much time analyzing the words to SD's music?

And why are some people in here all trying to out-do one another with heady and lofty words?
Is everyone trying to impress Walter?"

please tell me that's tongue-in-cheek.

Bleeped her way in here

eLLe, it seems though, you were ahead of your time, -since the mainstream minded have just discovered SD because they were in the Grammy Award Circus-. We could expect some shallowness around here and putting your mouth where your mind is or vice versa?

If you don't get why some of the SD fanhood spend that amount of time on the lyrics, it proves your not in the die hard catergory and that can just as well be a dye hard, given your hairy curriculum vitae. You got this nasty habit of adapting to the negative ways on this GB too easily and that's not the flow you should be going with, toots. You're a simple minded person, that's fine, but to some people things just don't add up as easy as you'd like it to be. So be at least a little respectful, and don't ask questions you don't expect to be answered anyway. We all derive our pleasures from sources not necessarily shared in a wider range. If it ain't up your alley, don't go there.
Stay put, be still and chew some more of your bubbly gummed manners until they go up in thin air.
Now KD, can you pass me the rooster please? I'm in the mood for some new offspring to be sacrificed somedays.

Chicken S. Hit

People, again, refrain from comment and the comments will go away. It's hard, I know.

Whoever posted that I should edit the thread started by Tom...I am not editing anything. No direct threats have been made. I disagree with your comment and rationale. Just where is the line drawn? E-mail me if you want to discuss this. Otherwise, read the statement above.

StAl

sort of anonymous asshole... yeah... johnny cum lately?

GB FAQ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~YELLA BELLY
by the way, I happen to be one of those twenty or so that post here and, coincidentally, I happen to personally know thirteen others. So including me, that makes 14. 14 who comprise this Guest Book who have MORE than the entire SD library. Of the six or so that remain, I have personally traded SD collectibles with two of the remaining six or so. That leaves four or so. Of the four, I have had conversations either thru fax, phone, email, chat, etc., with ALL four or so of the remaining posters to the Guest Book detailing the music of SD and discussing at length songs and meanings...things which would be nearly imposible to realize without owning the entire SD library of music. That leaves about zero or so posters. Of the zero, I cannot speak but perahps you can, you know it all lovely. L-o-V-e-L-y. aaaah. Slurp!
you also forgot to mention that in addition to listing family lineage, annual gross income, number of trips to Paris and Florida in a single month, the brand and distillation method of scotch consumed~~~~~~ what is the actual net income and is it stand-alone, but can you actually trace your family lineage to the Mayflower, of those numerous trips to Paris and Florida~~~were those flown in first class?????????????????????????????????????~~~~~~~~~~~~when you describe your scotch also~~~~~~~~~~is it on the rocks, neat, water back, etc. ggccthcchgg. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah beeotch. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. GET OVER YOUR LONELY PITIFUL SELF. AND AS YOUR STROKING YOUR SELF THINK: AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.AA.
BIATCH! AA.
ANONYMOUS ASSHOLE AMIGO

fucking pussies and idiots. I don't even have the stomach to scroll down to noon. Tones, DrMu, you know I ain't pointing in your direction.

Everyone else who doesn't have the balls to lay out with a consistent handle, what's your hangup? Chickenshits.

rather.. "his penis"..not "he" penis ; )

"don't blame it on Yoko"
-Bare Naked Ladies
; )

Re: Buzz interpretations.
Did anyone watch a tv programme called Phallacies last night?
Now, I have to change my mind when I agreed with some of your ideas.
Buzz is/was he penis.

Can I ask ( what probably seems like a silly question) but why do some of you here spend so much time analyzing the words to SD's music?

And why are some people in here all trying to out-do one another with heady and lofty words?
Is everyone trying to impress Walter?

Had not seen the down at the bottom clip - Wakter as a hawk-eye navigator. Did see Tomorrow's Girl's once many years ago visiting in Houston and they just happened to have VH! top 10 video countdown or something - quite surreal. The cartoon video for New Frontier is a work of art. Wish there was a copy to be had...

This is poking around the internet. It's a cut and past courtesy of Steve2000. IOthers may have some of the glitches with Google newsgroup that I do, so I taek the liberty of posting a short news artcle with a familian author:
Can't substantiate the authenticity

NEW YORK, NY (DPI) -
Musicologists who have spent much of the last few decades assuming that
the music of ex-Beatle Yoko Ono was too advanced for a public
notoriously unwilling or incapable of appreciating cutting-edge music
were relieved to learn yesterday that Ms. Ono's music was not actually
ahead of its time-it was merely bad.

The results of a study commissioned by the Berklee College of Music were
released, and should forever lay to rest the idea that Ms. Ono's
compositions were anything more than pure, unadulterated caterwauling.
"Oh, it's shit, alright-absolute shit," said Roger Holdsworth, who
headed the commission. "At first we had to consider the possibility
that there was some deeper meaning, since the 'music' in
question seems to be from another planet. But the more we listened to
it, the more it became apparent that it's just really, really bad.
Horrendous, actually. I'm quite certain the woman hasn't a fucking clue
as to what she's doing."

This comes as a shock to the members of the Yoko Ono Appreciation
Society, both of whom expressed dismay at the findings. Julian Lennon,
son of slain Beatle John Lennon, Ono's former husband, was not
surprised, saying, "Yoko shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a musical
instrument-not even a tambourine. She's dangerous."

* Reported by Tristan Fabriani and Chuck Smith

Well said, and I absolutely agree.

Lady B's husband, marital turmoil is never easy to take, but that's life in the city at century's end. You came in to humiliate Lady B and all you did was humilate yourself. It is obvious that you drove this woman into the arms of others. Get some counseling and figure out what defects and childhood issues that caused you to be a 100% partner in blame for the failure of your marriage. And stay the fuck off this board.

angel - I agree. I want to see those videos in full length. Funny, I had Vh-1 one access when they were released and I don't remember ever seeing them. Pretty typical. There must be enough video's and tv appearances out there to make a great video collection, what with the American Bandstand, Midnight Special, Letterman (though that's probably CBS property) and other archival things. Who should we annoy to get this done?
I thought the World beat interview was unusually straightforward; I imagine the funniest bits were edited out.
The Miles segment on KoB was better than Ken Burns treatment. Great footage.

t

Pat probably can geuss who this is from his server log but for now I will stay anonymous as I don't think it matters who is saying it.

While I am not a professional, I have volunteered to help counsel people in abusive relationships. To be serious here in the GB, drug, alcohol and compulsive sex and other sexual addictions are all symptoms of things much deeper.

It's very sad what's happened between Tom and Karen; I'm not saying that all those symptoms exist here in this relationship nor do I intend to counsel in the GB which is a totally inappropriate arena to be discussing, taking sides in or even supporting members in their marital troubles.

Those are private issues.

Are Tom and Karen hurting? You bet. Safe to say that this is an abusive relationship as well.

But the point is this: regardless of the abuse that takes between them ouside the guestbook, Tom's posting here what he wrote is a form of spousal abuve. Plain and simple.

I realize that the GB is a free-for-all arena and, this long time Dan fan happens to applaud that. That's what makes the GB unique and a fond place for Walter; and I while I don't read everything, it's nice to know that I could. Nobody else permits this and I thank Pat for that and the heat he takes. (another reason I want to remain anonymous).

But also, on rare occassion, some things can't be said...for example, things that would invade the privacy of Donald and Walter and their associates or something that could threaten someone's health or life.

As I said, Tom's posting and the followups is a form of spousal abuse. In the virtual world, this may not seem so bad but I think for either of these people or any of those other GB suggested by Tom as having an affair with Karen, this is not virtual entertainment but a very real and a very, very serious situation that could be down right dangerous and really push people some people to "the edge."

In this case, I think Pat is really showing some poor and dangerous judgement by allowing this thread to remain without edditing it out entirely.

Maybe this time it won't but I would sure hate to read in the New York Times that because someone's spouse posted about an affair on a STEELY DAN Internet chat room, it led someone else to harm themselves or others physically. It would be bad in a number of ways, and in ways not evident in the virtual land of the Internet, someone affected in real life could snap.

Again, while I am a strong opponent of censorship, I think the orginal post was a form of spousal abuse and could potentially lead to a bad situation for the immediate parties involved, the GB, and even Steely Dan if it were to go awry.

This is one rare exception where the thead should be removed. (BTW: most victims such abuse are too embarrassed and shocked to speak up to ask on their own behalf to requeset removal of this. That is why I am speakiung up in this case.)

With sincere intentions (hopefully not paving the way to hell).

Respectfully submitted.

Braving the fire and daring to post dan related things twice....

Finally caught World Beat. What it looked like to me, was mostly footage they compiled last year for the release of TVN. The interviews were the same and the footage was of the TVN band rehearsing Black Friday and Josie. There was some Cousin Dupree footage too, which Jimbo noted earlier. What was the new info, for CNN, was the footage from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Grammy coverage. The most interesting part, for me, was the 10 second cuts from their video of Tomorrow's Girls and Down at the Bottom. I never watch VH1, so I never saw them. Total running time for the segment was about 10 minutes. :-)

The tortured angel of your rising sign....

well, it is funny he/she invests sooooo much time and energy on this GB .. must be part of the furniture the way he/she is able to describe what and who this GB is made of .. talking things and ofcourse him/herself down .. must be a he .. can't think of any woman spending her time like this s o u l is doing ..

one can put in perspective but this ..

can't handle anything personal, can you?
anything emotional?

like it or not, such is life and even WB and DF have to go to the men's room, have gas not just in their cars and must have puked some in their time. do the burty and scroll on by if you can't handle it!

you're a repetitive anon, anon.
clean up your act and be worthy of the Anon Award we're not gonna nominate you for, this way.
we're so sorry.

not, ofcourse!

What a pathetic loser *you* are. Ever added anything of substance here? I seriously doubt it. Come down off your "anon throne" and post something we can all be amazed at, or shut the fuck up, you fucking hypocrite.

Btw, the person who runs this page has repeatedly said all topics are ok here. If *you* can't deal with that, then start yourself a "I 'heart' Steely Dan" site and wank off to pictures of the boys all you want. Most of us here are beyond that by now.

Here's your "cross-section"...

good one..anonymous !

you must mean sole instead of soul, the purpose Q, right?

Have another drink Cyn

The post below just proves why brother and sister shouldn't marry and have children......

Guestbook FAQ

1.
Q - What is the soul purpose of this GB?
A - To insure St.Al free tickets to the shows.

2.
Q - Can we discuss topics other than SD?
A - Actually SD is a secondary topic here. We encourage people to spill their guts on personal matters such as losing their jobs, how their wives are cheating on them and what they had for breakfast.

3.
Q - Is it ok to come on here and wish ourselves a happy birthday?
A - Yes, it happens all the time. In return, you will receive numerous birthday greetings, which should help to make up for the lack of friends you have wishing you Happy Birthday in the real world.

4.
Q - Are the people that post here Steely Dan's biggest fans?
A - Well, I'm sure they think they are. But the truth is that Steely Dan has sold over 9 million records and it's only the same 20 people or so that post here. Of these people, many of them do not own half of the SD catalogue and use this GB to get the attention they lack in their everyday life.

5.
Q - Who is this guy Clas and why is he such an asshole?
A - Clas is very well respected here. No matter what fucked up things he has to say, we all just come back here and tell him how talented he is. This is one of the true mysteries of this GB.

6.
Q - Is there a limit on the number of posts one can make in a day?
A - No, there are no rules rearding the number of posts in a day. It seems to be that it is usually the people referred to in question #2 that post most frequently and have the least to say about Steely Dan.

7.
Q - Do we have to submit a picture to the gallery?
A - Not unless you want to prove to people that you are as dumb as you look.

8.
Q - If you have a good job and make a good living, is it required that you let everyone on the guestbook know this?
A - Well, Q, Aussie and Cyn seem to think so, but this is really just their way of bragging to the rest of you, to make themselves feel more important. If you do feel the need to boast, a good tip to follow is that you include your family lineage, your annual gross income, the number of trips you make to Paris and Florida in a given month, and the brand and distilling method of the scotch you are drinking.

9.
Q - When your wife is ill, do you have to let everyone here know that she's "puking her guts out"?
A - Yes, as strange as it seems, this is an excellent way to get people to respond to you. Your chances are very good that you will receive multiple get-well wishes and words of sympathy. No one will even give it a thought that it is a dusgusting thing to post.

10.
Q - Do Donald and Walter read this Guestbook?
A - God, let's hope not!

I finally dumped enough applications out of my computer to get my disc space up. Celebrated that fact, last night, by logging onto Radio Freed Dandom. What a wild trip. Hoops your baby rocks, uh, swings, uh,....well you all get the point. Hey Hoops, I'll volunteer for ID's anytime. :-)

LB: So Sorry.

Lisa G: Turn those pages....

Off now....

Live on 365...

Mz Ducky has joined the Friends network? hehehee ; )j/k

The Valley of the Dolls : )

Alphonzo, well said

Lady Bayside- I don't know you, but I wish you the best of everything, no matter which path you take.

StAl, wouldn't it make sense to use little thumbnail images on the picture page, rather than re-sizing the bigger JPGs on the fly? Would prolly speed up load time by a factor of at least one million...

I'll even volunteer to make the 75 by nn thumbs if you're interested...

Any lawyers or legal assistants out there care to help me draft a disclaimer for the Guestbook FAQ I'm in the process of writing? Doesn't have to be elaborate. Short and sweet...

e-mail me directly: stalfnzo@seanet.com

Happy belated anniversary, MC and Opti!!! Many, many more.
Man all this talk about Eric Johnson...I've got to hear this guy!

Jimbo-thanks for the update on the WorldBeat rebroadcast. Will be definitely setting the VCR this evening, as DaddyG is conducting a concert tonight. I've been drafted to turn pages, so I'm leaving a little earlier than expected. We will miss you LB!

Ruby-hope all went well with you on Thursday.

Elligy

thanks so much to mr. & mrs. steviedan and their two lovely daughters for inviting me into their beautiful home Saturday evening....we got to see a great show at the Ritz with Derek Trucks opening up for Eric Johnson....Derek's style has really matured in the years since I saw him last....nice blues but a good dose of world music thrown in to keep it really interesting....as for Eric, I could listen to him play for hours on end....I guess he's still my favorite guitarist, bar none....he didn't have his best night last night, but even a less than perfect set from him is better than anyone else I'd care to listen to....thanks to his guitar tech for the guitar pick after the show....it's almost identical to the one I got from Walter's tech after the Art Crimes tour in '96 but Eric's playing the red Jim Dunlop Jazz....my only real regret of the evening was that Opti wasn't able to make the show....she's in WV for the birth of her niece's baby....congrats to Kim & Jimmy on the birth of Jenna Lynn on friday evening (which coincidentally, was mine and Opti's wedding anniversary)....I had to leave WV a couple of hours before the baby was born to make it back to VA in time for this weekend's shows.

time to get geared up for tonight's DMB show....another drive to Raleigh in a couple of hours....a hectic week with way too much drive time but plenty of good music and good news shared with good friends so I can't complain....back to WV tomorrow.

steviedan....email me with your mailing address....I'd like to send you a copy of the disc I was telling you about to add to your amazing collection.

I'm serious folks, this man has more LP's and CD's than anyone I've ever seen in my life! I've seen music stores that didn't have as much and none that had as good a selection on hand!

1,000 thanks to you my friend for a truly wonderful evening!

MC

To Lisa G.-
CNN's Worldbeat which has a profile on Steely Dan, will be on again at 3:30 pm E.S.T.. The profile was very good. One of the clips from that interview actually ended up on the 2vN concert videotape. That was when Donald was talking about "Cousin Dupree."

Also, Michael McDonald appeared in that segment beardless.

VH1 ALERT:

As I was writing this, I was watching Behind The Music focusing on 1972. It's a new episode which will show again at 9 pm.
In the final segment, Steely Dan is mentioned along with The Eagles as musicians that would change rock music forever.
It's good to rely on VH1 still, even if they make a few crappy
mistakes. Hey, they're better than MTV who tends to, no pun intended, make "Jackasses" of themselves :)

Worldbeat on CNN at 3:30pm.
Behind The Music 9:00 pm on VH1.

See Ya!

St. Al--I've been trying to send you an e-mail regarding gallery pics. I keep getting it returned. Is something going on with your server?

To Floridavid

Yeah, I caught that episode of Austin City Limits a couple of months before. Bruce Hornsby really got the party going, especially inviting the ladies on stage for "Rainbow's Cadillac."

How come there aren't any other shows like that anymore?
We'll there is Storytellers from VH1. At least Steely Dan,
Sting and other respectful artists can do the show. No
N'Stink or Enema, I mean Eminem:)

Lady B, Tom and little one-We're thinking of you.

Blaise-Methinks (Hi, Cyn, LOL) you protest...I have, in fact, chatted with you. I suppose it is that you do not chat anymore. We miss you.

MizD-cute take on the Bacharach tune. I shall strive to heed your way good advice.

Mu-I don't know what to say, but I see you apologized for your lack of judgment regarding the late-night post. Hope you aren't a victim of info-commercials, too.

So who has the details on this CNN thingy? Blaise, KD? It's been a bit hard to follow here. When will it be on?

LG

ok, with "Everything You Did," maybe not "unviolent." Especially considering the Eagles are involved, let's go with "semi-violent."

"Don Henley still lives there..."

I think what Tom did could have been a hell of a lot worse. In a country where a situation like "Everything You Did" seems like a best-case scenario, an unviolent fairytale; Tom venting his frustrations over some horrific misdeeds on Lady B's part (things she isn't exactly denying) on a small internet message guestbook seems pretty safe and (shock horror!) admirable.

Like some anon poster wrote below...if you find out the long-suspected truth about your S. Other late on a Saturday night, and the first thing you head for is the keyboard (instead of your kid, your gun, your bottle, or the friend from work), I think you're doing things the right way. And just like the anon postings, if you can't handle it, just scroll ahead to the cool shit Blaise laid down this morning.

Bottom line: it could have been worse.

Hello All- after the gig Friday (I stay at a condo at Ft. Meyers Beach every Friday)I caught A&E's Live by Request. This week featured the Bee Gee's. These guys Sounded so great and played /Wrote so many hits they knocked me out. Now, I was never a real Bee Gee Fan but the history of their songwriting longevity is to be respected. At times I've felt like their "Saturday Night Fever" success helped fuel the "Forget Musician's....Let's get a D.J." Disco Fire. But they Sounded great....the Singing, Band etc . Top notch.
Last night I caught Austin City Limits and was treated to Bruce Hornsby and then Eric Johnson.What a musical Evening!
Lady B.-This too shall Pass. Sending you all the good vibes I can muster.
Have a great Day everyone. David

if the dissolution of her marriage is not meant for "public consumption", why does she continue to air what truly is a private matter, for all to read and comment upon and then invite people to "fire away", further ensuring it will remain just that.

Of course any person who dared to express the above sentiment would be reviled as a cold-hearted clod who is utterly insensitive to this poor woman who allegedly cuckolded her husband, was found out and is now turning to her soulmates for comfort in this most difficult time.

This much is obvious: this GB ceased being a forum for discussion of Steely Dan and related topics many months ago, and has devolved into a laughable collection of noodniks who trade their sophomoric barbs and witticisms like an in-crowd clique at the local junior high school.

If this was a truly representative cross-section of SD fans, Becker and Fagen would be ill.

Clas = Xlas

could be a nickname though...

I apologize for my inappropriate post last night. I often get in trouble for cracking jokes at bad times. Ask my wife. Then again... she's half French...see, now I've offended Blaise...

Blaise: Way to pick up on the D&F commentary re: Chain Lightning. During one interview last year, D or W made the comment that a number of guesses found on internet venues (don't know if that refers to NG, GB, Digest, Oleander's site) about their lyrics overall were close...though not specific to CL?

40 years later - you don't think that referes to the bombing of the Munich Olympics in '72?

Xlas: Did you see that recent article (cited here?) where Fagen mentions that:

a) he write the initial charts in the 70s

b) they handed them to musicians who further transcribed them

c) musicians with D&W altered charts as needed

d) they did the horn charts last

We were both right...

Speaking of horn charts - I love Horace Silver's charts, especially on stuff like Senor Blues and Horace-Scope. He had this signature trill thing that Mrssrs. Fagen and Becker picked up on a bit...

Karen & Tom - I'm sorry.

To everyone else - Please show a little respect and refrain from commenting. If you don't have anything nice or supportive to say, don't say it. They're going to be dealing with enough negativity for some time to come. Don't need bozos from the guestbook heaping more onto the pile.

StAl

what i wanna know is -- how many more of these are we gonna get?

Bus service is so slow on Sunday, friend. Don't waste your time, please.
Think Swedish Ginger cookies, Dean and Deluca yummies...

Well.

I wish I could say that the person who posted that message wasn't my husband.

It's been a hell of a week, folks.

Thanks to those of you who posted in support of me. Not that I am proud of what's happened, but it was certainly not intended to be for public consumption.

My marriage has been bad for some time, and I had been quietly contemplating divorce, but trying to decide what was best for our daughter and trying to give it another shot.

Not surprisingly, anger was an issue.

I just didn't intend it to end like this, and certainly not with such style and grace.

Somehow, I doubt Tom will become a regular poster, though I bet he could give aa a run for his money.

I'm trying to figure out how this could get worse. Perhaps I will get hit by a bus today.

I don't know what to say. Fire away.

Lady B

laid off one day, laid the next...

Tom,

You didn't say...

How was the cheesecake?

Miz D - The post is not even remotely eating a hot dog in the stands at the Steely Dan ballpark (in that it does have that Bayside family air), yet I can't scroll on by here and feign to ignore this or even fail to mention it. Funny Dionne Warwick bit nevertheless.;-)

Tom Bayside, welcome aboard. Please have a seat in the Cafe D'Escargot (aka Squonk) and yes, make it a double if you like, it's on the house. The only test you may get is the usual blood alcohol level measure on your way out, nothing Dannish, promise. Maybe you shouldn't point that car down 7th Avenue after all, buddie. Be mindful of those innocent lives out there you could ruin.
For the record, I am not said "Steely Dan follower" and no, I don't do chat, alright?
Did anyone really meet this guy at LBB? Can anyone confirm this?
Inquiring minds wanna know.

And Lisa G fearlessly joigning the Chain Lightning thread has a point alright. It's an approachable yet intimidating charismatic figure, maybe an aging jazz musician who plays in small clubs and on a good night, he cuts a hundred grand. The Chain Lightning being these two experiencing a jam with said idol and sharing his divine inspiration. German poet Holderlin used "catching the thunder of the gods" as a metaphor for such rare moments of true creativity. It's another angle and I don't know if it's covered on Oleander's page but I do remember the Nuremberg rally imagery being explored there extensively.

Anyway... Chain Lightning, can't touch this, according to Walter.

"Becker, for instance, takes enormous glee in the impenetrability of a modulatory blues from Katy Lied.
WB: No one will ever come close to Chain Lightning. No one will ever touch Chain Lightning.

DF: Even the clue wouldn't have helped. I'll tell you what the clue was. In the guitar break just before the second verse I was going to say "40 years later," but we decided it wasn't a good musical idea."

http://www.granatino.com/sdresource/9lyrics.htm

Feel Better, Tom? I hope so, because any man who would set up his wife like that deserves the same in return. I've got a better idea for you, Take your keyboard and shove it up your ass. You are no gentleman, and you showed THAT to the Guestbook. I wouldn't go looking for sympathy here, you already blew any chance you "MIGHT" have had. By you posting that garbage you just made yourself out to be the ass. She on the other hand has maintained her dignity. Something you obviously know nothing about.

Tom--What would I do? Well, I certainly wouldn't share the shit in this forum(n).

Format.

mat = um(n)

Well, fuck all of you anyway.

Especially Tom,

TAK

Hey Jimbo! How would YOU like it if YOUR wife was fucking Aussie or someone else from this guestbook? Let the guy vent!

I was away for awhile due to a busy workweek. God, I can't believe what has transpired in this time.

Lady B. I hope you get the job this week. We'll be crossing our fingers for you. Especially after the nasty post you got
from someone claiming to be your husband. I was laid off before
(actually fired) by a boss who knew business the way Mark Cuban
learned manners. I was out of work for almost a year thanks to the big fat shit who blackballed me, but I survived and I'm very much stable. I know you will be too.

As for the man who allegedly posted as Lady B's husband. If you
are who you claim to be, wouldn't you have had some time to calm down, go to a marraige counselor or even go to an anger management course. The post you just did is an example of how a marital situation can get worse instead of getting better. If this is a post against us because we have the one thing in common with your wife, then that's taking out your anger on us.
If your feel that your anger is driving your wife away, control
it before it gets worse than it is.

Now, if you're an imposter, it's a very sick joke and we will take it as a sign that you are a twentysomething guy still living in his parents' basement and spending too much time on the internet. Believe me, no one appreciates a sick joke.

Either way this post is going to cause more trouble for Lady B.
than her unfortunate unemployment is right now. If you
were a man you'd pause for a few moments before considering a
message like that on this guestbook.

Think about your actions before someone else gets hurt.

To Lady Baysides husband- You don't know the 1/2 of it!

KD:

Whoa, I guess she...

Was Laid at Bayside

Told a Westside Story

A roller skater

Found the vault with the original 2nd Arrangement

Caught with the cable man and 15 watt lightbulbs

Was Night By Night with Coolie Baba

Took a piece of Mr. Parker's Band

Damn, caught my wife working on my daughter's 2nd grade project again - hope we get an A

the bar is TOO high. sugar ray update !

... i was gonna post but i can't follow THAT !

godspeed midnite cruiser, drive back to danville, or somewhere the same...

Name: tap
oneireland@yahoo.com
Location: harrsiburg, pa usa
Date: Saturday, April 28, 19101 at 23:55:23
Comments:

sugar ray's new official webiste sugarray.com to be released may 1st!! next single released may 7th!! new cd called "sugar ray" out june 12th!! also catch the band on letterman june11th and the today show june 15th!!

...and there's your Steely Dan link...

Hello Guestbook,
I'm am Lady B's husband - Tom. Some of you met me at Le Bar Bat. I'm sorry that I was so tense toward some of you that night - as you read on you'll understand why I was on edge. I've just confirmed tonight something painful, something that I have suspected for several months. To be honest, I am posting this tonight to humiliate Lady B as she has humiliated me. Forgive me if I offend you by doing this... I am beyond ANGRY at what I have learned, and I feel that Lady B deserves to suffer after the pain she has inflicted upon me, or marriage, and our daughter:
I learned tonight, without any doubt, that Karen is having sex with a guy she knows from her now former job. Friday night, on the premise that she was going out with 'sympathetic' work friends for dinner and drinks, she met her friend Jeffrey Hasterock after he got out of work, and they got dinner 'to go' and went back to his apartment to eat and fuck (And apparently they forgot to eat the cheesecake). This is the second affair Karen has had in ten months. The last affair was with another Steely Dan follower. You might even know him?
I know that I am to blame for part of this. Karen and I fought a great deal about money, sex and the balance of personal time JUST BEFORE her previous affair. Perhaps my anger about those subjects drove her away. But fighting does not give any of us license to have an extramarital affair, or two of them.
You may not like what I've said tonight, and I cannot blame you. But before you are quick to draw conclusions... ask yourself this: How would you feel, and what would you do if you found out that the NUMBER ONE PERSON in your life was running into the arms of another lover?

-Bside's Husband Tom

Dr Mu & Lisa G - Glad everything received OK. Enjoy the music!

Cheers all.

Mr Chow.

Heh ... I may live to regret this, but this doggerel took root in my brain and would not stop growing.

Okay everyone, put on your best Dionne Warwick maribou boa, and follow the bouncing ball:

When you think the Guestbook's gone to hell
From raving "anons" who can't even spell
Scroll on byyyyyyyyy ...
Scroll on byyyyyyyyy ... just let them be
If you desire a board that's garbage-free
Don't answer--their drivel
Will drive you to break down and cry ...
And scroll on by (don't ... stop ... )
Scroll on by (don't ... stop ... )

If you see a thread that you don't like
Please don't tell its source to go take a hike
Scroll on byyyyyyyyy ...
Scroll on byyyyyyyyy ... just let it be
Or else that thread will drag on for centuries
Just put down that bludgeon
And let that "dead" horse expire and die ...
And scroll on by (don't ... stop ... )
Scroll on by (don't ... stop ... )

If you find yourself a-wondering when
You last saw a post about Steely Dan
Scroll on byyyyyyyyy ...
Scroll on byyyyyyyyy ... they're here somewhere
Or you could post one your-self if you dare
Who knows, it might even
Get noticed before it scrolls on by ...
Scroll on by (don't ... stop ... )
Scroll on by (don't ... stop ... )

/the Mam'zelle
hey, Donald's into Bacharach--that means I'm actually On Topic!

Best line - Fagen: "That's why Einstein always looked good...[pause]...He just didn't care."

or something to that effect regarding the advantages of not paying attention to "current" styling (context was their stuff from the 70s). Nice shots of The Donald on the Rhodes...

yeah

none of you is

Have another drink Cyn

Choose....

I refuse to have a battle of the wits with an unarmed person.

ps..If I was a dog, I'd chose another groomer!

http://www.dancingpaul.com

hehe

gee gotta go get layed big. been fun tho. i'll check in later.

what a refreshing exchange... what fun... love this cat shit... and then as if posting a name address or phone number or looking you right in the fucking face would make any difference none youre not interesting enough to put a name to any of this. none of you is. you are interesting only when interacting with each other.

OH MY GOD!!!! check it out.. Walter and Donald say the world fuck and even the word "chill" on 2vN. How cheap and vulgar and Ebonical.... and I'm just shocked!!
don't bother Material Bag

you were right as well, if you were sitting in my chair, I would be grooming a dog.

Have another drink Cyn

Give it up ELLE, Even when you try to be smart, you come out looking stupid. For a week I have neither wasted my or the GB'rs time by reacting to your little shots at me. You are persona non grata as I'm concerned. I see you've clean up your vulgar mouth a bit (*Bleep*) As long as you are censoring yourself...don't stop at just the vulgarity...take it all the way and censor yourself right out of here.

ps..(DUH, Another stuck on stupid moment from elle)
What OTHER Queen would they have returned it to???

Lisa..think .....deep blue..calm...sea.....
deep..blue..calm..sea
I feel your frustration. I feel for you. I've been there.<--stupid cliche'..but has its place ; )
hang in there dahling!

Yeah, angel. We weren't even prepared to start looking for a home, so we were not prequalified when we found out about the landlord's intentions. We were talking about it, but figured we shouldn't rush into buying as we thought we had time--maybe a year.

But our landlord decided to tell us he's selling with four day's notice that it will be shown. He didn't even consider asking us if we would be interested. He just went ahead and listed it. Then he called us to tell us thinking he was giving us plenty of notice to start looking for a new place to live. According to our agent, the listing realtor asked him if the tenants had an interest before listing the property and he said, "No."

Lie? Well, technically we didn't say yes because...WE WERE NEVER ASKED! So the opposite of yes, which we didn't say is, no. He did not contact us until after the fact.

Counselor: To the best of your knowledge, did your tenants have an interest in the property?
Landlord: No, counselor...the tenants did not say "yes," so my interpretation is that their answer was "no."
Counselor: Please state, for the record, what is your definition of "no?"
Landlord: The opposite of "yes," which they didn't say.
Counselor: Did you ask them if they had an interest in the property?
Landlord: What is your definition of "ask?"

I suppose we should have stopped everything when he called the other night and said, "Wait! We'll make you an offer!" without having discussed it. We even asked him how much he wanted. Wasn't that an indication we may have wanted to buy it? I think it was too late anyway because he had already assumed we wouldn't want it and he went ahead and listed it.

When we made the offer today on paper, one of the stipulations stated:
"The seller warrants that no tenant has an interest in the Property, except as may be stated under the Section of the Contract entitled 'Additional Contract Provisions.'
There is no section with that name.

But nowhere on our lease does it state that the landlord IS required to allow the tenant to make the first offer. So I think we're pretty much screwed in that department. Hopefully, he'll accept our offer, and the other people will just GO AWAY.

Fingers crossed,
LG

Kno-p-fler..excuse me
and right KD...it was just John..Paul kept his.

Hi Lisa- yes , I was just surprised that Mark Knofler played on a SD album..and thought it was funny, after the *bleep* tried to slag me off ( again) by saying something about me sounding like I should be saying " I want my MTV "

wait, we're trashing Paige for discussing Steely Dan on the Guestbook? There is a "problem" with extended opinion on what could or cannot be?

That's a gotdamn joke. Keep it up Paige.

I don't know where to start. Amazing...

Chickenshits: real names, please, for any responses.

The fellas were featured in the Boston Globe today which reported on their receiving honorary doctorates from Berklee. The article pointed out that over the years they recorded 10 Steely Dan albums and 3 solo efforts.

I need those other 2 SD records to complete my set.

Well, I managed to fall asleep and miss the CNN thing. Glad to hear that maybe it is on Sunday, instead. Do you think Don and Walt will wear Blue makeup.... lol

Paige: Yes, Oleander's site does support the Hitler/WWII thing.
I believe it is well documented, that Donald found Hitler fascinating (but, of course, I could be wrong). Funny thing is, I never much liked the song until I heard the cut from the Jeff Pocaro Tribute. Donald did an excellent live version and gave me a new appreciation of it.

Lisa and Daddy G: What a NIGHTMARE. I can't believe you have to try to get your financial act together, while dealing with people viewing your house. Bummer.... :-(

Midnight Cruiser: I would get upset, if I were you. I was looking for "The Fez" on Amazon, since I left all my copies of the song at work. I went to the "Citizen" song list and the only song you can't listen to on that whole CD set is "Midnight Cruiser". You make them mad, or something? :-)

Steviedan: After all that, the clip of "The Fez" was not from the top of the song. Will have to wait til Monday for a true listen for comparison purposes. AAAAAH!
Oh, hope you all have a great time at the concert.

Feels so good.....

Ed, I can't believe you will be in SoCal NEXT week and not in time to see W1P tonight! St. Al -- For now, I guess I'll settle for a PinkFest tonight (or is that a BlackFest or a BostonFest)?

Thanks to all who sent good wishes, vibes, juju, prayers, etc. my way upon the announcement of my newly unemployed status. It was quite a shock, but I am doing okay.

I had an interview which went fairly well on Thursday (not bad for two days after my being laid off) and I have to meet one more guy from the office who was out last week. I hope to have some good news Monday.

I am sleeping late, hanging out in my pjs way too late, and trying to get motivated to do stuff around the house.

I will be checking in, although probably not as frequently as I had been, but will be around chat more than I had been, I would guess.

Thanks to everyone, really...you guys are great. I really, really appreciate the support.

Aus, I eblasted you...but publically, congratulations. Well deserved.

Kisses to my friends,

Lady B

is that D and F themselves have averred on more than one occasion that their lyrics are intentionally opaque. They were less concerned (at least in the 70s) with telling a story per se than they were with stating thematic tableau that were used to conjure up a feeling or state of mind.

The notion that "Chain Lightning" is tale of some sort of Aryan rally is one that's been aired before and I think it's a bunch of hooey. Now "Kid Charlemagne" being Owsley--that's another story altogether...

I think this airs Sunday.

Paige-interesting. Your explanation makes a lot of sense. Although I always thought the first lyric referred to the amount of money "some people" make. But then nothing ELSE would make sense. (I thought that was the point of the tune--to not making sense.) Although I haven't read Ole's site on this, I'm going with your explanation for now. :)

eLLe-hey! Re: Knopfler
Actually the song I believe you are referring to is "Money For Nothing" by Dire Straits. It wasn't a solo effort by Knopfler, I think. Sting had the cameo melody from "Don't Stand SO Close To Me" that you mentioned, with different lyrics. In fact, Sting has a habit of just the opposite: rewriting melodies to lyrics he's written and incorporating them in new tunes. First instance, "Oh My God" from Synchronicity had the ending lyric to "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" from the previous album, Ghost In the Machine.

Quiet day here on the GB. Not for us. We've been going crazy trying to get papers together to buy this place. So far there have been seven showings and three more scheduled for Sunday and Monday. And the night is still young. This has been going on for only 24 hours.
We made an offer today. We also called our landlord with the hopes that he'll consider and accept it being that we know each other. We'd like him to take the damn thing off the market, ASAP. It's hard to greet people you're competing with nicely while they walk around your "home, " with intentions of making a better offer on it than you can all the while not knowing that you're interested in it in the first place. Yeah, "Act natural, like you don't care," indeed.

Wish us luck!

LG

Q.....I turned on CNN at 3:30 and saw a health report. Maybe it was only shown in Tampa.

Hutch, thanks for the info on Horace Silver. I'm curious however, have Don or Walt ever commented on these songs?
"Song for my Father" is slam dunk Rikki-ish and we know the boys were brought up on old Jazz and Blues. Has there been prior commentary or controversy regarding these tunes?

Just Curious,

GE

The Washington Senators are back, and have won the World Series after winning 145 games!

Ok - just kidding.

Paige - um, right - what you said

Dungheap Garden

Talk about B-O-R-I-N-G! Let's try to stick to something a bit more 21st century than the locution: "Can you spell..." This is Steely Dan folks, maintain some decorum.

Thanks for kind welcome by everyone.
First, need to take care of some business:

Yes, I agree, that “Buzz” is one of the most literal songs produced by SD. As I mentioned earlier, it’s hard to deny the whole drug angle. My purpose was to test the waters with a pretty “far reaching” interpretation. One that clearly only existed in my imagination.

I recently e-mailed Oleander to offer my apologies for any contribution I might have made to the site going over the allowable hits. I did tell many of my “partners in crime” about this great offering by Oleander. This, along with my mention on the GB might have pushed the numbers over the edge.

Verbose? Yes, I’m certainly that. I don’t know if its a reflection of a huge ego or if I’m trying to insure that my interpretations are fully understood. It’s probably a little of both.

Finally, I’m always amazed on how much is lost in the written word. There was a time when writing was the primary means of communicating over long distances. With the advent of the telephone and other forms of communication, the art of writing sort of took a back seat. Since the introduction of e-mail, the written word has returned like it has never been seen before. Unfortunately, we seemed to have forgotten that much can be lost in the written word. There is no way that we can hear voice inflections, tone, intensity, etc. Even under the best of circumstances, sarcasm, biting humor, sardonic intent and cynicism can be misunderstood. To take it one step further, there are those that actually take advantage of this phenomenon as a pretty creative tool.

Okay…
So, I’ve been listening to Chain Lightning as a part of my recent menu of SD cuts and I wanted to offer a few thoughts in hopes of generating some feedback from others. I must admit that I haven’t had the opportunity to visit the Fever site (sorry Oleander) to read people’s take on this great song. So, if my interpretation has already been forwarded by others, well…that’s the way it goes. It was actually written over a year ago. I just touched it up a little.

First, just a word about the song musically: This has got to be one of the coolest songs ever. The slow driving beat and the guitars are so soothing. I also like the combined vocals with the slight echo. Especially the way they hold the word “good” for so long. Mighty fine.

CHAIN LIGHTNING

“Some turnout – a hundred grand”
“Get with it, we’ll shake his hand”

Well clearly, there is (was) some large event going on. Of course, it is presented from the view of two or more individuals attending the event. It seems apparent that it is some sort of political rally. The first impression I had was that it was perhaps a campaign/presidential rally for JFK. But I quickly tossed that aside. For me, the rally was held for someone more infamous. Say…Hitler (or someone equally evil). The only problem I had was that no one from the crowd would be allowed to shake Hitler’s hand. So, it must be a highly charismatic and influential individual who allows for personal contact.

“Don’t bother to understand”
“Don’t question the little man”

Okay…so one is encouraged to abandon their own reason and let the dictator think for them. The ideology is carefully wrapped in rhetoric and is made palatable through the dictator’s ability to inspire a mindless following. The “little man” seems to refer back to Hitler again in “Don’t question the little man.” Another possible interpretation is that the “little man” refers to those of “no influence” who are not to be heard.

“Be part of the brotherhood”
“Yes, it’s chain lightning”
“It feels so good”

Here the individual (more than likely the dictator) is inspiring the crowd to join the masses, to accept the ideology, to be a part of the great new dawn of man (as promised by the party). In that the next line refers to the title of the song, it seems to contribute to the interpretation I’m offering here. “Chain lightning” seems to be a part of the actual indoctrination that the crowd is experiencing. That is to say, it is almost like the phenomenon of “mass hysteria.” It is a tool used by the party. The individuals in the crowd lose their identity, and like a conduit for electricity, pass the voltage of the dictator’s words and ideas to each other. The crowd is “electrified” in unison. I can almost hear the mantra of hundred thousand strong singing the praises of the man and his ideas. This intensity, this electricity, is an adrenaline rush…”it feels so good.”

And yet, not all are sincere in their dedication to the man, the party or its ideas.
The let down after the rally allows some to reconsider the intent of the event.

“Hush brother – we cross the square”
“Act natural, like you don’t care”

Back to the two or more participants at the rally…the doubters.
It is clear that the rally is over and things are winding down. I can almost picture a small band of participants leaving in the area in the middle of the night in a light rain. They are trying to be inconspicuous as they leave. For, they are never sure who is out there that “truly” believes and would turn them in. They are cautioning each other to “act natural” and don’t draw attention.

“Turn slowly and comb your hair”
“Don’t trouble the midnight air”
“We’re standing just where he stood”
“It was chain lightning”
“It feels so good”

The line “Turn slowly and comb your hair” always reminds me of James Dean. Dean had this ability to “act natural” with gestures and movements other actors seemed to forget (are a part of our human behavior). This line continues the participants effort to go unnoticed. No curfew tonight, my friends, our leader spoke. So, “don’t trouble the midnight air.”

But still the power of the words and the event as a whole, linger. Causing doubt …“perhaps, he was right.” Thus, they return to a position of “what felt good” and not “what is right.”

The participants are not necessarily standing exactly where the dictator stood. They are merely in the same locale. Yet, that could be where he stood. It almost doesn’t matter, he was there at the same rally…”we were with him tonight.”

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I think that the only reason why I place this event somewhere during the time of WWII is that there was a movie called “Chain Lightning” (with Bogart) that dealt with a WWII pilot who experimented with the first jet powered aircraft. Apparently, a pretty poorly written flick. There is also a Lockheed plane of the same time period called the XP-58 (a.k.a. The “Chain Lightning”) that went out of service around 1957.

Well, some more mental masturbation to take up your afternoon. Thanks for letting me contribute. Lucky for you I’m not multi-orgasmic, or we could be here for another three pages.

See you – perhaps in the chat room.

-Paige

off to see Eric Johnson & Derek Trucks with our own steviedan in Raleigh....time for a little road trip!

"what was that for?"
"I just wanted to see what all the fuss was about."
"and?"
"I've had better."

Joey "MC" Tribiani

This Pacers/Sixers series has me on the edge of my couch.

Actually Macca kept his OBE or whatever, only Lennon returned his. John gave his back to protest Biafra, is that spelled correctly? And 'Cold Turkey slipping down the charts. Fuck that's funny, he was something else...

Blame it all on that group, Steely Dan. Why not, M&M did.... LOL
(did he really have a spread in Cosmo?)

Ok St. Al, let me make your life here. Front page Sports section of the L. A. Times. "Angels are being ditched by Seattle" Favorite line in the article, "If the Mariners keep this up, they'll win 140 games..." You can dream, can't you.

Z/x: In case you care, that Frontline show airs again on Tuesday.
"The Merchants of Cool". For any parents, this is a show about how the advertisers are marketing your teens. Z and I caught it last time it ran.

Going to check out CNN at 12:30 Pacific and see what turns up.

Ed Beatty: Get my e?

Lady B: Thanks for the message. If you go with Lisa G, give us a review.

Wormy: Expecting a review tomorrow. Don't fail me. ~

|||||| Testing, Testing....

Good day all....

In their summer dresses, a little smile can really make your day....

perfect!
what a statement!
brings back to mind John Lennon and Paul McCartney returning their O.B.E.'s to the Queen ( that would be of England)

why do I have a feeling that Miss-a -dish- of -dollars- layed -out- for- all- to- see
would be a bidder?
LMFAO

thanks for the info.. ( you know who you are)

The current Division Leaders are:

NL

East - Philadelphia Phillies
Central - Chicago Cubs
West - L.A. Dodgers

AL

East - Boston Red Sox
Central - Minnesota Twins
West - Seattle Mariners

No reason to wait and let the boys of summer break a sweat or give A. Rod a chance to count his $$. Besides, no NBA series is appealing aside for the Lakers and Spurs in a couple weeks (sorry, KD). It is a metaphysical certainty that none of these teams will be standing come October...Sammy Sosa does look buff though...Go Cubs!!

Hey,
One more thing about those pesky Mariners.
Lets hope its not 1978 all over again say like the Boston
Red Sox eh?

Never Underestimate the Heart of a Champion
or the team that spends the most money effectively

ED

Quick quiz for StAl

1.Identify the years that the Seattle Mariners have won the
MLB World Series?

ok?

its still April

Who makes the tabloids interesting
Rescues a dreary news day
Who makes me feel like drinking again
Honey it's you - Jenna Runaway

Crisis, what crisis?
This just in:
Top Ten pieces of dubious spin advice to Dubya

10) Announce Canada had secretely invaded the US that night between the hours of 10 to 12 PM, making it perfectly legal
9) Bluntly inquire "With me as a father, wouldn't you?"
8) Blame it on that guy Steely Dan with all those drinking references in his lyrics... Ask "Where was that sticker again, Tipper?"
7) Take a hint from the old man: deny she was ever your daughter in the first place but really your father's daughter which makes her your sister or half-sister and, in all cases, your contemporary. At the same time, candidly confess that you've always found the whole question quite confusing...
6) Claim the girl was just struggling to shake off trauma of seeing those Eminem nudes in Cosmo. "Wouldn't you?"
5) Take the blame as a parent. Turns out, Robert Downey JR. might have been a poor choice after all for a designated role model, tutor and chaperone back in the eighties. Who knew? We live and learn...
4) Insinuate a commie friend of hers was identified as a bad influence, was rightfully "sent for" and appropriately prosectuded. Half-jokingly call for the consideration of capital punishment as an option in such cases.
3) Casually quip from the hip: "Bloody hell, what's that docusoap crap on that web site she bookmarked? Jezzzuuss Where's that V-Chip again, Tipper?"
2) Get Surgeon General to declare it established beyond a reasonable doubt that inhaling gaz in Texas will cloud one's judgement over time through regular exposure. Get all greenish about it
1) Admit little girl was just depressed there was no tour this summer.:-( Slowly slipped into Alcohol, Tobacco and/or Firearms out of boredom. Wouldn't you? Blame it on that guy Steely Dan

AWWWWWWWW...poor anonoposter. Sounds like you might have a little drinking problem. Is that why you have erectile dysfuntion? So, you take out your frustration here on the GB...Tell it to your therapist.

W1P: I can't think of a better place to have a DanFest, see a Steely Dan tribute band or even Steely Dan themselves than a strip bar. What a wonderful idea.

Daddy G: Let's not talk about those 87 Brewers, ok?

Give Me A Break: Sours Grapes? Sounds like a typical Yankee fan to me... Oh, and BTW...

Jeff Nelson (remember him?)
Freddy Garcia
Edgar Martinez
Jay Buhner
Carlos Guilien
John Olerud
Dan Wilson
That Japanese dude
That other Japanese dude

Just off the top of my head. Shall I go on?

Take it like a man.

StAl

Today at 3:30pm EST CNN is having a Jazz special and are featuring the Dan along with Miles.

Cyn - have a few drinks for the rest of us too

HUH???

"About your bid... just what exactly is your Steely Dan Docusoap script all about anyway?"."Would Gershwin have sounded normal to 15th century kids?"."Remember the 87 Brewers?"
"Will you still be singing it on a cold and windy day?".""Jennywennymoneypenny", does this count as any sort of Dan reference?""Wouldn't you guys just love to have a private, one-on-one session backstage with Britney?""What kind of a rabid-admirer-of-the-store-manager discount can I get?"
"Where is Chere these days?""How much music would YOUR land rover buy?"
"Who wants to be a schmendrick (sp?)?"

Huh...

Can we spell B..U..S..T..E..D ?

It appears Jenna "W" Bush(19) was caught drinking Friday night at a bar. Jeeeezzzeee...Perfect timing! Just when DaddyO is in the 99th day of accomplishing nothing in office. Ya gotta just love this girl. As much as I admired Chelsea, she was boring..Not much chutspah. I'm thinking at this rate MissW will get more front page time than PrezW. She so much more interesting...lol.

Steviedan...Is your refrigerator running? Do you have Prince Albert in a can?

.....where I am,
Cyn

Hello all

Thank god my best mate is a computer genius. My system crashed on Tuesday. I've lost everything from my Address book to my collection of movies (oh shit - I've let it slip now!!)

Anyway - please send me e-mails so that I can get a list of contacts together again.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano - That e-mail is still making me ill!

Somebody Screamed somewhere

Peace
Al

... roy.

angel, it's there. it's that basic melodic figure used in the intro to "the fez"

in an uncorrected key form off the top of my head:

(G) 2 3 4 (C) 2 3 4 1 2 (B)(C)(Eb) 2 (D) 4

i'd hum it to you if i could, it's just the intro figure. must not have been what you heard the band do, however. too bad, cause kenton did alot for music education.

wormy, you may not work ! you've whetted our appetites to hear about all this phat music. not that we're gonna be watchin' the traffic from the front porch this weekend. checkin' out eric johnson/derek trucks with none other than the midnite cruiser and opti mystic, my oldest daughter, crazy bill, jigga, and a few hundred guitar students. by the way, $34K is the starter set.

roy, either e-me (barbourmusicbox@aol.com) or give me a holler any day after 1:30 pm edt (919-319-9966) and we'll see what we can do.

see i'm not afraid to put my phone number on here. so what if someone calls mischievously. have at, impish one. i eagerly await telling you to kiss my ass on your dime.

greetings soundengineer sven. happy days are here again. have you heard "two against nature" ? it's steely dan's "new album". you'll like it. they still use the same soundengineer. he continues to know what he is doing.

rumble & daddyg, twelve-tone for toddlers ? that depends on the kid and his/her ear. acclimation is everything, really. would gershwin have sounded normal to 15th century kids ? it did to us.

i'm going to join "everyone" in the shout out, the hollah, the plea for juju. we got word you've been in chat...

the new SD frontpage breaks my heart. The 'Drone is doing his usual bloody brilliant job, but I know the end result is going to break my heart.

St Al - make sure you keep that broom out - you may see it from the other end soon - remember the 87 Brewers?LOL

Angel - thanks for the luck - I 'll need it.

|||| - Atonality and 12 Tone music within the capabilities of a Kindergartener? I am not sure that is what you are saying, but if so, um, NO.

DG

gee wiz, Mike, EhWah would be extwemwee dewhited
would be extwemwee dewhited if yo was to cwumpo yosef into a widdle ball and fwush yosef down da toidee

Hutch: Oh yeah, that's it all right. So cool. Too bad the sound is so poor. Thanks for mentioning it. :-)

Quiet day on the Guestbook. Where is everybody. LP, Jen, Snakehips, have all been absent for a bit. Miss you all....

Blaise: Thanks for the links. I was at the site a few days ago and those nice pictures were not there then.... :-)

W1P: Words fail me.... LOL

Hutch: Gonna have to check this out. I did the amazon thing for Song for my father. Will do it again....

Steviedan: I tried listening to Artistry in Rhythm on amazon. None of clips sounded like The Fez, though. I guess it is more subtle then Song for my Father is.

Lisa G: Wish Daddy luck with his concert.

Good weekend all....

From the foot of Mt. Belzoni....

Some photos here:

http://www.berklee.edu/html/ab_commedia.html

The idea of hearing SD's songs performed by Berklee graduates is promising to say the least.

B

Berklee breaking news. Event will be webcasted:

http://www.berklee.edu/html/ab_commence.html

I've heard it mentioned that Horace Silver's "Song for my Father"
was used as... well, let's say inspiration for "Rikki Don't Lose that Number". I was listening to Radio Free Dandom a few minutes ago and heard "The African Queen" by Silver. Sounds to me like the idea for the song "Pretzel Logic". Same bass line. Almost the same chords in the vamp. It's on an album called "Re-entry".
If you go to amazon.com and type in Horace Silver in the search box you can listen to a sample of that one and "Song for my Father". They're both on this album.
Very interesting.

the way i see it, elle couldn't muzzel her way out of a
out of a paper bag

Just 24+ hours until W1P storms Pleasures (what a name) along with tributes to Black Sabbath and Boston -- talk about your unholy trinitys. Ozzie Osbourne, Roger Waters and Brad Delp -- I mean, seriously it's like a "Super Bowl of Rock" that would never of happened (and, even in this alternative universe, probably shouldn't happen). All at a strip bar. I think the next LA Dan Fest should be at Pleasures -- what a contrast to Le Bar Bat! We'll get the Steely Damned, the Steely Fan Band and Dr. Wu, divy up the entire Dan catelog among the bands and play every song ever put to wax, vinyl or CD by the Dan. All to the grinding and writhing of LA's worst strippers. NOW that would impress Walt/Don, doncha think? Pete, I think you should be the "driving" force "behind" this event!

I meant "right on!"

Nice to see the new pics in the gallery.
Lars: to type '||||||' user the key over the Enter key (on my computer, may not be the same on yours) and press the shift key while you do it. This character is called a vertical bar or a pipe. That list of songs was not a list of least faves, it was all the second-to-last songs on SD albums.

Speaking of vertical bars, that "The Original Steely Dan" was classic! Gave me a good laugh.

LisaG: right on , music and art are crucial for kids.

Rather than 'new forms of art', I really meant that artists who practice for a long time add MORE rules on top of the existing rules, to define a style that is their own but still fits into existing conventions. It's like a subclass (e.g., Picasso Paintings) derived from the larger class (e.g., Paintings). From this subclass, objects can be created (e.g., 'Guernica').

BUT you bring up a different way of looking at art - sometimes a new form can be developed, especially by a talented artist. For example, Picasso over time developed Cubism, and created a new subclass of Picasso Paintings called Cubist Paintings. Other artists could later adopt this style (here my art history fails me, so I don't have any examples). I would venture to say that each time artist creates a brand new form of art, it might not be recognized as art by the general public/art critics/other artists. It may take years before it is appreciated. OR, if the artist has very little talent, or if the work is too radically different from the parent class, his/her work may NEVER be recognized as art. (I'm trying to think of an example - how about the controversial paintings using elephant dung?) To define 'talent' - I think 'talent' has more than a little bit to do with selective conformity with just a dash of something a little different! The definition of Art varies over the years and is continually evolving -- but it is not always a slow change, radical changes CAN and have been made... eLLe's point about the Orange is well taken. For example, the abstract expressionists successfully redefinied Painting as "Paint on a Canvas," because their work no longer needed to represent anything in the real world. But there was really a lot more to it. one often hears people in the gallery staring up at a Barnett Newman or Mark Rothko painting and saying "a kindergartener could do that", but I think they miss the subtleties in such a work... actually Rothko is one of my favorite artists...

In the music world, atonality or 12-tone music could be considered a similar movement.

Re: steelyvids - MizD, as always you can evoke great images of D&W even in cartoon form! The next Beavis and Butthead perhaps? :) Mu, Love your Peg flash pics idea.

KD - Gary Sinise, right on? Can we include Brad Sullivan as well (Great character actor)?

Welcome Back, Howard and wormy! I have missed the top tens.

As a soundengineer, I keep getting chillz bout the way the steely dan albums were recorded, mixed and mastered....but also the songs themselves give a good feeling eveytime I hear em....these were some compositions my friends.....not some plain music like too much is made nowadays......
Hope these days come back someday..till then, I keep listening

Cyn....come closer. In chatte nowe.

Cyn dear, would that include yours? If not eLLe would you please muzzle this foal, I mean, nag?

danoooooooooooooo......when I'm callin' youuuuuuuuuuuuu,
Am home now, for the duration. Sorry, I missed you earlier, was in the garden. Face had "bris" for her stud colt today....lol. Had an invite but...nah...OK, you guys(as in men) can relax now. I'll be checkin' in and out of chat...

makin' room for more bodies in the garden,
Cyn

Oh Please St. Al~ Without looking in the newspaper name 4 players on YOUR Mariners. I'll give you a hint...A-Rod and Ken Griffey Jr. aren't on the team anymore.

In Chat, cyn my comic buddy where you be woman cub.

.....and Mark Knofler who of course made MTV famous for his song I want my MTV, and the song is still one of the best sellers in UK
poetic justice, ain't it schweet!

as Long John Baldry put it, "all you've got, I've sold"

Cyn , If you order the pizza , I will sneak into Jims room and put his single bed in the elavator?? Done that many a time and have been captured and hoofed out the Hotel??In my wild young days before responsibility came along.(lol)

Cyn - that wasn't Disney, that was lp. She'll pave your parking lot, put up a paradise.

Lee Ritenour waaaaa
Ricky Derringer..Hoochie Koo
Timothy B. Schmit..

thanks for putting in the players and lyrics section, I was just taking a boo, and alot gets lost in the shuffle in 30 years...
yes yes,, it's all coming back now!
ta

dano... Cigar won the Breeders Cup 2 years in a row a few years back. Unfortunatly he was gelded and could not be used to produce offspring. But he is living out his years on a farm in the Bluegrass state. Said ortho-vet now works for bigger stable also in Kentucky.

I'm feeling a wee bit jealous of those in 'Nawlins.... thinkin' about ordering 25 pizzas and sending them to Jim's hotel room. That would certainly take care of my prank for the month...lolol.

Disney has turned our Main Street into a dirt road (cough, cough), repainted all buildings to look authentic Victorian, put set design stuff all over the sidewalks...HELP! I can't find my bank (it used to be right on that corner)"They" will be gone by next Friday.

Coming down the home stretch....

Cyn

KD - funny stuff for sure. Here's another one good for some yucks. If anyone's offened by the "F" word, don't bother...

http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/fword.wav

GO MARINERS!!!!!

LOL dano, no

In the unreleased SD song "Mynah from China", there's a phrase about the world-traveling hero, "with Josie back home on his mind." It reminded me that I've heard some military people refer to 'Josie' as a generic name for the guy who's humping your wife or girlfriend while you're overseas. Rather than dreaming about a girl named Josie, I'm thinking he's worrying about his lady's fidelity or lack thereof. (Later in the song, he makes a fascinating discovery and ceases to give a shit about back home.) Anyway, I don't think the name Josie in this context is a foreshadowing of a later and greater song which many of you have heard.

Lady B~ I forgot to thank you for your kind words to me about my TM2000 song. Thanks. And may I offer my best wishes in your mandated next career phase. I, also was laid off; from two (count em', two) jobs, in fact. With six years of perspective, i can't swear that it all turned out for the best, but I know two things: 1) I haven't missed those jobs, even a flicker, and 2) I now have the opportunity to cyclically turn a handful of raw recruits into a well oiled mathematics machine. (Factor, you mullets!). -- More words on the the cleansing experience of reduction-in-force upon request.

stevie dan~ Thanks for the info on the Laura Nyro album; I would probably end up buying it even if it were recordings of her belching the alphabet.-- What kind of a rabid-admirer-of-the-store-manager discount can I get?

RS

I am trying to make the TvN screensaver work on my PC but I keep getting "Error 76", some sort of Basic error upon installation. Anyone got the easy fix for me? I'm semi-computer literate. I got the thing to install to the point where it starts and "travels" several of the track names across my screen but then says it can't find a path to Sd_pix6.bmp. Help.

haven't even scrolled down to see how this started, but are we on the KLH tip? As in, "Coltrane on the KLH?"

Heading to Lake Nostalgia with my pole, be back in 10.

Probably the speakers... or maybe a high fidelity radio KLH first made in the 60s :

http://www.somerset.net/arm/radio_pictures/klh_8.html

An outside possiblity is WKLH out of Milwaukee, but that seems not too likely, since the setting is probably NY/NJ...Ya never know with AM radio - could be one of those 100,000 Watters, but that seems not too likely if it were playing real jazz...

Sorry Blaise, darn computer.....
Thanks for the KLH answer.
Off to work.

Aus , Aja, keep in touch with the yellow stuff, good people are hard to come by , hope all works out for you guys.

W1P, Top girl looks at you as if It"s xmas again??

Blaise, only good mate, only good, I love kids I used to go to school with them?

Cyn, Derby Day next week? Cigar Is it still in training?

Elle , is it really twenty years? New Age Romantics did they keep the hair salons in business or what?lol

Leggin It to collect man cub, Later geezers

KLH is, indeed, a line of speakers. (Maybe other audio gear also?) Henry Kloss, who later went on to big-screen projection TV and other consumer electronic whiz-bangery, was one of the founders.

angel, my best bet is this (since it makes sense):

http://www.klhaudio.com/

Time for a quick Chat?

Chere Snow, please report to the special herbs and oils department ASAP.
This is a shout out. I repeat: this is a shout out.

Oh, and I want to be at the JazzFest, too....

Wormy: How could they make you actually WORK for a living. Got to get their priorities straight. Glad you can still see some of the fest. Thanks for the "faithful narrator" comment. :-)

By the way, does anyone know what K.L.H. means?

Have a good day all....

With Coltrane on the K.L.H...... (in your honor, wormy.)

Jon - If that's not a dream, it is something to look forward to. Especially considering the fact that World Beat usually offers its reports on the web as well, both through transcripts and audio-video formats. Thanks for the info, bro.

angel - Legend has it that Pete Fogel tripped and repeatedly tossed Clas across the room at the Lonestar that one night. A seductive "far west" theory I've heard. That would explain a lot. Ain't that right, Clas?

wormy - Funny thing is, I thought that was you.:0) Enjoy the jazz vibes.

hi gang

met up with Jim# and his wife Amy prior to the fest last night, very nice, they will be off and enjoying the wonders of the fest today (and marvelous weather that will hold all weekend!)

StevieD - I'd love to give commentary but a major crisis at work has your faithful narrator and 4 colleaues burning the weekend oil at work so he can make a saturday night outing and sunday fest (missing Richard Thompson, Al Green, BeauSoleil asnd Phil Manuel among others today is almost criminal)
did catch Nicholas Payton and Quintology (the next Astral Project) at an in store show yesterday afternoon, flashes of Armstrong and Coltrane respectively

as for the $34,000 introductory jazz collection
you know I speak only with admiration
to hell with the Rover indeed, hey I'm an addicted audiophile
and spend the farm on big metal boxes labelled Audio Research
and the ear candy that feeds them with only minor restraint
so we both have our priorities in perspective

second derrangement - wonderful one!
I detect the blazing rouger

Ruby - praying for you positively on the meds end
and envious of your skiing escapes

Auss - congrats on the promotion

where is Chere these days? - sprinkle us Oh JuJu Princess

speaking of Sunny Mountain
o.d.r. heard the cut Son King (ode to Sonny Rollins) from Chris Potters latest release on the radio on the way in this morning, very nice with small combo backing - Chirs is very fluid and interestingly restrained on that cut

wormy

caught in my reservation

Say it ain't so!!!

Top 5 reasons Aja and Aus shouldn't leave the GB...

1. Aus, Who is going to give me a "LEG UPPPPPPPPPPP" on my horse?
2. Aja, Who else could use that lovely bright pink in Chat?
3. Aus, Who will give us FREE investing advice?
4. Aja, Some one might use your handle and post stupid shit.
5. Aus, Where else could we hear another saga in the "Adventures of Aus and "the Babes"?

Lady B...Sorry about you losing your job. Apparently they wouldn't know a diamond if they held it in their hands.

( Don't) Sneak out the back, Jack,

Cyn

I don't *think* I dreamed this but at 3:30 this morn, consumed with insomnia, I flipped on the TV and could swear I saw that this Sunday, Steely Dan and Blue Man Group were being featured on something called "CNN World Beat." Can anyone verify? (Their website does not.)

Heavenly, baby, heavenly is how you'll look in that ski suit, rb.

no clas, this is not fun. mike stern is SERIOUS ! you shall see oh yes you shall...

aaajjjaaaa... auuussssieee.... can you hear me ?... come away from the light...

wormy tee, we're expecting reports throughout the weekend. take turns as "designated poster", if you will. and HEY ! people spend more than $34K for mere automobiles...

how much music would YOUR land rover buy ?

lasts at least a lifetime ! will the rover ?

Beautiful day in L.A. Walked west on Sunset.... :-)

timg: Great 18 second derangement. Someone is real creative today....

Good chat this evening with Ed, LB and Floridavid. I will have to check out that Remo building, David. When my little one was quite a bit younger, Remo had a demo of their different drums down in San Diego. The kids loved playing them all. They looked very much like what you are describing. Enjoy and as Lady B said, when will we get to hear them. :-)

Clas: You missed the Danfest, thus you have no idea what Pete is up to. Nor would you care.

Ruby Baby: Good luck with the MRI. So sorry to hear you need an emergency one. :-(

To all who were at the Danfest, I so want to go to San Diego tomorrow. Aaaaaaaaah!!!! (primal scream)
Lovebob, Hank, Peg, Ruby and the rest, have a great show! Maybe next time.

Night all.....

Unfortunately, they are not in bloom on her website....

chat, anyone

Mr. Chow: Package arrived safely. It's true, the MP3s do not do One Nil justice. Very nicely recorded, with band strategy missing from the elegant songquilt of Try Whistling This that suffered from Wendelitis. Tchad Blake's engineering sparkles especially on the more acoustic numbers. Turn and Run is a real gem.

Aja: bon chance

yippee! another one gets a life!!

to whoever: heavenly, babe, heavenly is where it's @

Okay, to further make life interesting, I go in for an emergency MRI tomorrow. Guess I'd better throw out my gold teeth...

Congrats to Aja and Aussie!

Lady B - fear not. When God closes a door, He always has another one for you to enter. Rejoice!

rb

...or a couple of lines

Aja-best of luck on your new job. We'll miss you here, girl. But you promised you wouldn't stay away.

Aus-congrats and get your Jambon du Fromage back here as often as possible.

FlDAve-new kit "sounds" great! Now when do we actually get to hear it?

porchman stevie-you're so succinct.

LadyB-you still think I'm funny? Hey here's hoping the power suit knocked their socks off and now their bare feet are showing. Will e-shout you with directions for Sunday.

Lots of love,
LG

18-second Derangement

Rolled out, rewinded, whirled
I got just two tapes of this, hold that swirl
Here's that reckless wiper
He owes me some money
Cashed in the Yellow Jag
Forgot my life and laundry hyping Boston Rag
Mu should know the program
It's 1 AM and I can't say goodnight

Once Clas rolls by

Then I'm on 18-second derangement
It's Nearly Dan, not the real thing
You'll step out through Internet
And spend a conference @ Hoops's address
So I'm on 18-second derangement
At home we are mute to our friends
Noticed the time?
I've yet to find that first arrangement again

It's a tricky situation
A serious affair
I must explain it to you somehow
Right now, I'll just go back, compare

Here comes that noise again
Another scrambled passage found with no brass band
Something dimes can dance to
A song wiped three minutes
Old fans are banding, meet
It's just the Roue thing might pop up on Jeopardy
Some, they will remember
'twas I AM and I'd one last scroll by

Once Clas rolled by

Chorus

timg

cuban gentleman don't really sleep, they nap. and that occurs between gallivanting with fast women and sipping cafe pilon.

That "Sun Mountain" is heavy man; real heavy. Dey got a name for the winners in the world- congrats to Don and Walt for the well deserved grammy and HOF. Would you care to explain how come these guys music never grows old and dated? Razor boy still sounds as fresh and crisp as it did upon its release almost 30(!?) years ago.

Dandom radio downsides

- Constantly sporting wireless headphones has proven to be a major workplace faux pas
- Local Newbie Police has admitted it experienced slight signal interference lately
- Installation of player meant freeing up precious mp3-free space on hard drive needed for swap file purposes
- Untrained ears have started confusing the Dan and the Doobies again
- That 8 track of Countdown through stock AM radio in '75 Pacer feeling

Dandom radio upsides

- Bar by bar song analysis rendered possible through a 9600 bauds modem
- Repeated broadcast of King Of The World may allow Nasa to finally get in contact with various lost pieces of hardware
- People all over the world get to hear that sultry voice of Hoopsies on a daily basis. hmmmm
- That 8 track of Countdown through stock AM radio in '75 Pacer feeling (nostalgia factor)
- Future Steely Dan Concert webcast now rendered likely. yeeaaaahhh baby

wimbtacoa

Did somebody say "birdland"?

re: Bird bass...

Sounds interesting, bass and "tweeters"...

Agagagagag... {Popeye laugh}

As the earlier poster said, The Who song was "Slip Kid"

I've got my clipboard, text books
Lead me to the station
Yeah, I'm off to the civil war
I've got my kit bag, my heavy boots
I'm runnin' in the rain
Gonna run 'til my feet are raw

Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
I'm a soldier at thirteen
Slip kid, slip kid, realization
There's no easy way to be free
No easy way to be free

Whoa. That picture of Walt and Don in the header just moved!

Edd- Did I miss something? I don't recognize the Who song.And by the way, they're not Free. An Incredible deal and the chance for something unavailable to the general Public...but not free.
Guess I had to have been there...I just didn't get it.
How about we try to get you a new Bass with Birds on it?Just a thought Buddy.

Loving all the beautiful work we've done, Cara Mia...

Yesterday, the good doctor asked:
"Blaise: Do private schools receive shared funding from the province?" Answer: http://www.meq.gouv.qc.ca/STAT/Stat_ag/s_dep1.htm
At least, they are subsidized by the province, yes.

You'll be a witness to that game of chance in the sky
There where neon bends in daylight sky
Late line 'til the sun comes through the skylight
A shadow crossed the blue Miami sky
Now and ever bound to labor
On the sea and in the sky.
While the memory of their southern sky
Was clouded by a savage winter.

Steamin' up
That Trans-Island Skyway
Up in the sky
There's that cruel countermoon
Double helix in the sky tonight
Throw out the hardware, let's do it right,
Keep your eyes on the sky
Put a dollar in the kitty
Don't the moon look pretty

Then the milkman screamed
And pointed up at the sky
There in the corner of the eastern sky
The tortured angel of your rising sign
Down in the bottom where your demons fly
Down in the bottom of the eastern sky
Since your daredevil hang glider fell out of the sky
Dusted down in shanty town behind a sky of red
What are the secrets they trace in the sky,
A kingdom where the sky is burning;

Sun Mountain

This bright familiar sun
Rescues a dreary Sunday
On Sunday morning
Smoky Sunday
Like a Sunday in TJ
Drive west on Sunset
Powered by the sun
Watch the sun go brown
Colors from their sunny island
Where no sun is shining
Where the sailor shuts out the sunrise
In that sunny room she soothes me
Her skin, like milk, It's like she's never seen the sun
Wake up Darling, they're knocking, the Colonel's standing in the sun
They're speeding towards our sun on a party run

I'll rise when the sun goes down, cover every game in town
In the last light of the triple sun
Late line 'til the sun comes through the skylight

Now I step into the sun
Under the sun
That noon sun is blinding
Join in the search for sun and sand
I've got to have some time in the sun
To watch the sun rise in the dopest part

Then the sunshower breaks

I'm thinking of a major Jane Street sunrise
From the sunny day I met you
Our salad days.... beneath the autumn sun
Not too far from the earth or too close to the sun
A world become one
Of salads
and sun

For those of you at work, keep the volume low. They'll think you've lost it-- Costanza-style.

Completely off-topic, but Steely Dan might have had a hand in the Casey Kasem rant:

http://www.hankhayes.com/outs/celebrity_out_takes.htm

Awesome stuff...

StAl
Its April 26th.

St Al - even immortals can be mortal - but Lou IS doing a fantastic job - don't worry, we will be there in Sept. too!

Mu - in a perfect world, I think that would work but I think the Government wants to be adversarial. Too bad because I do see your point. as usual, it's not the system that sucks, people suck.

Lars - maybe Swedes suck less than Americans - I have heard that somewhere.

Cyn - thanks for the ref. - heard good things about that flik

Angel - I am fine - thanks!

Aus - congrats, and gooooooood luck!

LB - how did it go?

whip,whip

Deleterious Gangwarfare

re: Fish drums

As I read your description I suddenly heard The Who singing in the background...

"Fish kit, fish kit,
Second kit they gave me,
The first when I was 13...

Fish kit, fish kit,
Second kit they gave me,
My drums have always been free..."

There goes clASS, dancing with himself again.

Clas: Why do insist on being such a putz? Pick on me for chrissakes. I'm a much bigger target anyway...

Daddy G -- You were saying?

I still love you EVEN THOUGH you're a DamnYankee fan...

GO MARINERS!

StevieDan- Brag on the new Kit? Say no more, Say no more...
The Kit is a Custom made Remo Mastertouch (Like Ricky Lawson Played on the last tour) Although not as big.I'm my own Roadie.
I was graciously given a Remo/Lee Custom endorsement which actually started back in June 1992 when they printed the article on me in Modern Drummer Magazine.
This is the second Remo Kit I've gotten,and by far the nicest.
I'm using 10", 12", 14" toms,a 5"x14" snare and a 16"x20" Kick Drum.The Toms are 3/16 thick and the Kick and Snare are 5/16 thick Shells.
The Kick Drum breaks in Half and the 14" Floor Tom goes inside while in Transport.
I chose to use all new Yamaha Hardware on the Kit as I really like the design, Fit and Finish of the Stands and Mounts.
The Kit is Made of Remo's Exclusive Acousticon Shells.A material
made of Birch, Maple and Mahogany Fibers in a Polymer. They Form these "Perfect" Tubes and attach a "Perfect" Bearing Edge where the Head seats. Making them Very easy to tune and unable to go "out of Round".
The Kit is Finished in a custom Fish Graphic. A Black background with colorful tropical Fish all over. It starts as a Fabric and is Covered in a liquid Resinous type material until it is like Fiberglas. Very Durable and very Cool looking for someone who Plays Beach Gigs.
So, the next time you're in Sunny Southwest Florida remember to include a visit to Florida's Newest Attraction! Floridavid's Fish Kit!

"honey how you have grown"

on belgian radio now, first time i hear dupree btw ..

it's different to play a cd or hear by chance.
by chance better!

off again, scrolling down the banyan road,
G.

No Aussie and no Aja in the morning.... Getting real depressing here. Good luck to the 2 of you and don't forget to post occasionally. Aussie, keep the reviews coming, please. We need our faithful/humble narrator fix.... :-)

Stevie: Thanks for the hint of what song it might have been. I'll meet you on the porch....

Blaise: I won't tell BF if you don't. :-)

Roy: Interesting post. I understand the sentiment.

Ole: Hope you can find a new home for your most excellent offspring. I have been coming in through ODP these last few and miss the purple one... :-(

Jim #: Good trip to you and the Mrs.... POST!

Wormy: Glad to see you in fine form. Enjoy Jazzfest!

Lady B: GOOD LUCK today!

Out of here for the day, see you tonight...

Rescues a dreary Sunday....

On my way to Jazz Fest!!!!
Earth, Jim... e me at fish225@yahoo.com, I'll try to make the wing-ding.

Buzzin through the pages, someone (Dr.Mu??) mentioned Stephen Stills. The dude is really under rated as a guitar player. You need to check out his son Chris Stills. I dig his CD. It's worth listening to.

top ten things to annoy Salieri about the Dan

12) the mere expense of hiring two chamber maids
11) that harpsichord labeled Fender Rhoades has an interesting tone to it
10) the Royalist of Scams, it was as if God inflicted the creatures with pure genius only to humiliate me
9) they care nothing about the Emperor or societal customs, honey mustard offered to the academy, scandalous
8) rumour has it that they are writing an opera set in a grotto down in Haiti, that's preposterous
7) and when they weren't looking, I confess, I wiped the 2nd Arrangement and planned to take it as my own
6) while I was merely a boy playing awkwardly at the Guernsey Fair, they set about composing music of the finest quality, this was no circus act
5) these vile creatures had taken orchestral beauty and woven tales of lyrical debauchery throughout it, and totally unbeknownst to the emperor
4) "Sire, they are holed up in a dark studio, with many hired accomplises, they rarely eat and go on for hours and hours"
3) I saw to it that despite great critical acclaim, that they were bannished from the best opera houses, it was then that they started writing a death march entitled Deacon Blues
2) cohorting with sisters of babylon and lowly underaged roller skaters, might I find their weakness
1) though they were heard sparingly from through the 80's, I knew, I knew all along that unlike myself, that they have never lost the gift
0) so I laid low, gave up my talents, and assumed the name ENIMEN. I took their blaspemous vileness and expanded on it to gross proportions, and yet when I should have been bestowed the most noblest honor it was they, the creatures who stole my shining moment

cutts

Fine then... I'm leaving too.

Top reasons why the boys were not enthused in Katy Couric's presence

- LP's joke email routine morning read was broken
- It was much too early to get out of character - Later Today sounded much much better
- I got the news not - Felt let down that Bryant Gumbel did not conduct the interview
- On second thought, would have preferred a steam bath in Iceland as a setting for the Q and A
-Felt lost w/o Paul Schaeffer conducting and running into everyone on stage
- Whitefish Montana dude's presence was somewhat unsettling
- Loss for words - "Why 20 years?" question was usually fielded by that webdrone robot
- Somewhat distracted by Dean and Deluca's fine assortment of swedish ginger cookies shining behind the glass
- Prepared all night to go on about why they didn't quit the Doobies after all
- also felt they would have to explain why "year of the cat" was not on the setlist
- Prospect of morning whack by Dre's crew kept them on their toes
- After all, nightflies are not powered by the sun

wimbmofas

Recent developments here at work: I have been recruited into an elite institutional team = huge upgrade/promotion. I will still keep my private clients and service them accordingly but the organic nature of my business will be radically different. Tomorrow marks day one at my new position....

Bottom line is I will probably not be able to contribute as much during market hours and will most likely be out of the loop for a while, save those times at home when I can peek into these pale yellow pages and see what's cookin'. It's been a really fun ride with y'all. For those of you with my numbers and e-mail addresses, those will not change, so I can still be reached that way.

Everybody have a great day.

l-u-v

Aus

Lisa G - thank you very much for setting us straight on the education issue, i could not have articulated it better myself

clas, remember, the beauty and curse of amercia is our chaos in making decisions for the public good/benefit/interest - but hey what do i know, i just go catch dogs every day

Aja - i'm wearing black today in mourning of your passing as a lurker/swirler/supreme poster as well as a lucy-ethel cyber-pal extraordinaire, e me off line when you are able

have fun in new orleans and make sure somebody has a digital camera to add to the site/sights!

budget on tonight, GE - rough seas ahead?

email still down, dammit!

NMN give me a bzz this morning or i will try to call you in a few myself about tomorrow? cafe escargot?

stevie dan is that a 3 season porch? i'll bring the gin and tonics and be there this afternoon

Ole - need space for fever dreams?
the nugget, the kernal, the zen of dandom

I give St Al permission to delete all my archived postings
that ought to free up enough space for detailed reviews of everything Dan for years and StevieD's $34,000 beginners guide to jazz collection (can I hang on your porch too?)

then again seeing Blaise get involved with this is encouraging
I loved his dan most wanted photo gallery

o.d.r. Comodian thanks for the horn reference
interesting that Don and Walt would add the horn parts at the end of the process. they seem so seemless as if the whole piece was heard instantly in their heads. Salieri would be fuming

Jim# - I'll keep my eyes open for you two tonight
or should I be looking for Samson Ite?

Aja - you will be missed on the day crew
best of luck with the latest

Gina - wish I could read dutch
mayhave to get a coworker to transcribe

I miss the Social Herm and Lapage commentary

I have no idea who Kreskin is

wormy

don't go for that cotton candy

And I may add to Edd's view that the RNRHOF was most probably felt like a bit of an insult at the same time. Three rounds to be inducted? Come on... they couldn't possibly look too enthused about that.
As far as the Grammies are concerned. Can't help thinking there's them good old Warner Brothers hard at work pulling the strings to secure their new roster acquisition. Walter even felt it could have been fixed albeit expressing his surprise in a joking manner. We were all floored by this. Not that the album didn't deserve it, au contraire. Recognition for their work was long overdue and the album was the best thing out there in 2000, no question in my mind. But you can't help but wonder about the possible behind the scene politics involved since we were accustomed to see the most popular acts sweep the awards in this fashion. It's all good for them and for us since it means bigger budgets and the widespread expectations of a follow up.

I saw Katie Couric do a short Q&A with them before their segment on the Today Show.

I got the distinct impression she'd memorized their names only minutes before, and was hoping they'd do their big hit "Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)".

Where's the honor in that?

sob sob ..
Aja, it's not as if you're really leaving, but there was always this knowing for sure you was out there, lurking, smiling, grinning, dime dancing. Now you got yourselves another job which really means W O R K, and you'll be busy doing thát instead of hang out in chat and ease on in here using understated humor and still a moment with just a faint smile.
how one gets accustomed to something, right?

HAVE A SWIRLING NAWLINS TIME and we'll be seeing you, in the familiar places shall we say .. :-))

Banyan Tree No Goodbyes and Dime Dance Aja Swinky Whirl Bow,
G.

As much as I admire Don & Walt, one characteristic to which I can't relate is their apparent indifference to acclaim. Even given that the music biz is an evil tunnel peopled with masters of the insincere, and that award shows are mostly bogus, it would still be difficult for me, personally to be casual about the honors they bestow. They've shown an Eddy Vedder like semi-enthusiasm about the grammys and HOF, and I've even seen them deflect praise from the likes of Katie Couric, treating her as if she was Joe Mccarthy setting them up for a congressional investigation. I envy the fullness of life that allows such behaviour, but, as for me , if anyone implies that I may get an award, or even a compliment, I'll overdress, show up early, and be grateful to the point of groveling.

Allow me a belated grovel to the folks who said kind words about my TM-2000 entry:m JW, Hank, Cruiser YGK, Clas, Lena, Jonas, Blaise, Ken Ruby, angel, nMn, Oleander,LisaG, Howard Dr.Mu, Jim#, stevieD, anne gyna, JK, Gina, et al. It means a lot. If you knew how my other pursuits are going, you could magnify how much it means.

Oleander~ If you and Judy called me at the same time, I'd put her on call waiting and talk to you.

Happy belated BD Lena & Floridave.

Jim# , ~~~, Zeke : Try to leave Nawlins in one piece. We will get together and kick Norfolk's ass later.

RS

where can you be seen in your new outfit?

... there was nothing that I could do...
Just another Damn Open Market Casualty, eh? Hang in there.

Mu - i would have to reseach this at lenght. Policies keep evolving here due to the overall sad state of the educational system. 50% or so High School drop out rate...

Lars - Thanks for the clarification. I see private schools are specialized institutions in Sweden. Canadians (and especially Canadiens) are sons of bitches alright.

Think I caught up with you all now...

later

Whatta group in chat last night - an all star lineup. Thanks FlaDavid, ed, Aus, Lisa, Paige and angel.

4 hours to Nawlins lift off and I'm wondering if Mrs.# has run out of things to pack. Hey Wormy, I'll be easy to spot. Just look for the heap of luggage in the hotel lobby with an arm sitcking out of the middle of it, waving feebly. And holding a gb t-shirt, :-)

Cyn and FacetheFace: Hold down the fort, put out fresh water for the 'gator.

see y'all next week.........

Or is that 5 measures? 5 1/2? Anyway... you catch my drift.

Oleander - I would be honored to contribute to your site and see that it's future is taken care of the way it deserves to be.
It's mostly text, right? So it shouldn't use up too much disk space on a server. I'm sure a kind soul who has space available will come through here. I'll send you a few things I spotted I can't help thinking are worthy. Of course you have the final say on matters of relevance. Btw, I am not the author of that Jack of Speed -deeps fo kcaj comment, puhleaze...

dano - is that good or bad?

angel - I know Big Fan would be upset with my nomination. That is, if he read the guestbook. He just writes.

Robin - Don't be a stranger.

Aja - sigh Anyone else finds this extremely depressing.

re: Mystery Wave, the breakfast of champions

Another fact that reinforces this idea of the short clip being an earlier version (the original)is that it is similar in structure to the demo version. I count six measures befoe the groove for the verse kicks in and both intros include this little melody at the end. Not the case for the lenghtier version which is quite different since it starts with the main guitar theme.
later

yeah, i'll give you a break.

Ahem. Stick to the broads bud.

asshole aprove -- christ, gimme a brake.

Stevie Dan - hey man, you got my address! Fun!!! Gimme yours and I'll send something you can have in your store! And HEY, I got the J Warnes "Hunter" today, sounds great, I get back on it. I'll be listening to it at the countryhouse during the weekend.

FUN!!!

dr Mu - I can? Fine.

dr Mu/RubyBABY/LP/Lisa G... and Lars, interesting shit.

Lars, it's damn funny, I have been doing brochures for the different schools for the Utbildningsförvaltningen; Datapedagogiskt Center, SEC, IT-Center etc etc... and I still didn't know what you meant with "skolpeng". Well, Lena explained it to me last nite :)

Daddy G - yeah, I knew Zappa had done classical stuff, and maybe you're right about "genius", maube I put in too much weight in the word. I looked it up and the encyclopedia says: -unusual talent, overtalented... so if that's the case there's no doubt that Fagen AND Becker are geniuses (is that pluralis?).

Pete Fogel - where are you these days, don't you have anything you want to share with us? (you probably have, but nothing you can earn a few bucks on)

C

Look at clas tryin to work the anglais. Well done hogarth.

Oleander - I'll be patient with you sweetie. In fact, I'd like to BE your patient.

C

Well, I haven't even been lurking, just going through a kind of phase where I'm spending more & more time on the wetside. It really is beginning to interfere with my online time, though. My family and friends are worried about me, and I think my work is starting to suffer. They all think I'm addicted to face time. I've been reading some stuff about the psychology of the internet, and they say you can get warped and misled if you get into relationships with real people. And the harsh effects can scar your retinas. Plus the sleep deprivation from spending all those hours at the park, in the cafes, driving around, reading books in the stolen hours afk. Be patient with me. I'm powerless over my life.

Yes, fever dreams has worn out its welcome on earthlink. It's getting like the giant adenoid in Gravity's Rainbow--sloppy, snuffling, surreally complex, and impossible to ignore. We need a new home. Any suggestions are welcome, and thanx, kd & angel, for your thoughts. It should be back up for the time being on 5/1 & I'll continue the search for new digs. As well as try to keep up with posting the ever-surfacing scintillating comments on the lyrics. Blaise, you are so kind to aver that I'm human. Goddammit, I never claimed to be complete! In fact, the days are long gone when I could keep up with the various venues for ventilation. I depend disproportionately on the astuteness of strangers in surveillance and reportage of lyric comments. Please e me with stuff you see! Otherwise it's likely I'll miss it.

Paige--kismet! I love fun crap. So glad to see you here & read your cool stuff. Did you see the discussion in the Digest on The Royal Scam? Most fascinating.

Stranger--have missed you. You have a brilliant ability to hit the nail right on the head. Must be the boxing.

"loose" that number ?

no, of course. "lose" that number.

... i don't know...

yeah... don't loose it. (i.e. undo)

particularly the south where i reside as does coincidentally dr mu...

vouchers = resegregation (period/end-o-story)

i can't believe supposed naivity of this agenda. please...

this is not europe. no comparison. never will be. get in the game, here.

clas, forget vouchers. you need mike stern's "between the lines" album. totally tune-oriented soulful playing. send your address to barbourmusicbox@aol.com & i'll send you a copy ! it means that much to me.

lg, correct on brecker brothers. i have the video and it's a massacre. dennis chambers should be charged. also, thanks for bringing up that old "charlie freak". always a twisted (pretzel) favorite.

thanx to malc & angel & anyone who joined me on the porch. the best part of the whole house.

happy birthday (belated & trying to keep the record) f-dave. and hey dude, i asked you to brag on your new kit and you blew me off ! must be shabby huh ? some sort of dw crap or somethin' ?...

hank/miz d, i'm thinkin' "rent" meets hunter s. thompson. parental advisory in full effect.

lady b, who knows, in the long run... lean on us at will.

hey miss gdot. unconditional trust in my taste ? i hope warnes lives up, but be sure not to continue such trust in regards to statements about pictures from horseshoe tournaments. bad humor posing as glorious reality... tuck & patty not posing. cool.

"i.g.y." can make the average late-nite grocery store seem a bit more futuristic, i found last night. the segue to "goodtime charlie's got the blues" prompts one to ask the cashier if they sell this tape.

angel, that could be stan kenton's "artistry in rhythm" sounding suspiciously like "the fez". a superb call for a high school jazz band...

'sup paige ?

cara, saw shawn colvin on austin city limits with lyle (lovett) & bruce (hornsby). a former employee called me today from atlanta to tell me he was driving her around on friday. raleigh is not REALLY all that far, brian...

i got your second arrangement, blaise. along with three other "questionable releases" i just received. of the four, three i have never owned. in other words...

SCORE !

mc, the excitement builds for guitopia this saturday ! i'm checking to get camera clearance. don't loose that number.

fezo, soulive is great. both albums. scofield guests on the first one. loved your "jazz funk meets garth hudson". yeah, m.m.w.-ish.

elle, nice george benson impression !

greetings to the new orleans topsoiliant contingency !

howard, glamour profession is a serious tune. i just happened to be singing it to myself over the weekend, so your thread was deja vu. i love it when that happens.

Had a glorious time in twat this evening. Thanks to all who were absent. Off to wet dream.

Commodian: The groove that gets my attention of The Nightfly is on the New Frontier with Ed Greene. Good point about the tape of a tape of a tape. You may have a higher fidelity recording. The space between the beats still seem a little too perfect. Great agility of the drummer on the wav clip - and Gadd IS agile in an effortless way...

Lars: Interesting. The Dutch students and a current Korean student ask many more questions than most Americans. The social aspect may be key. In many circles even through college, it's uncool or worse for Americans to be academically or especially intellectually oriented. Who wants to be a schmendrick (sp?)? Also, in more academically competitive circles, students are afraid to ask question less they a) look foolish or b) extend class time. It would be unfair to lump all American students together, because there is a real diversity of attitudes and approaches - some show extraordinary curiosity. And in fairness, the best and most creative problem solvers are some of the American students.

The American students TEND to be more pragmatic, goal oriented, drawn to work or study where "it's happening" from either a social or productivity standpoint. The Korean students will ask questions in a gently challenging and constructive way. They grasp concepts better than many Chinese students, who were taught with rote memorization only. When I started teaching, I was so eager for Q&A that did not materialize, overexpectation syndrome common with "newbies." Now when questions come, sometimes a stunned look probably comes over my face - developing some bad habits that need shaking. I've found that often the best students are the wise-assed B students. In fact, I would hesitate to take a graduate student with a straight A average who has never been in the real world. Guest lectures though seldom with my schedule get the juices flowing and spur me to stir things up...

Just doing a little shameless self promotion. We're a mainstream metal band from Oxnard, CA please come check out the site. You can promote on our guestbook too!

I'm glad.

He did.

Had a glorious time in chat this evening. Thanks to all who were present. Off to sleep.

Wow, thanks for the invite Dave. Had a great time in chat with you all. Learned alot.... :-)

Lisa G: Hope Daddy G got home ok.

W1P: I think I am going to have to pass that Wonderful event. Hope you win the contest... LOL

Weather is a bit cooler today. Spring is such a GREAT time. Hated losing it so fast yesterday.

Night all....

(For you Ed, sort of.)
I'd like to run out now there's nowhere left to turn...

Awoke with Laryngitis and had to cancel tonight...any Chatters?

Augh look at Lisa getting all serious on us. Let's all have a few drinks and lighten up and relax folks. Learn to have fun people. Lisa, you and Mu and others are really ill prepared to make any trenchent contribution here. Stick to music.

Oleander-If you're Lurking and see this...please send me your Email Address...I've lost it. Need to get in touch. David

Robert, we're gonna have to let you go...

...the anon wanker.
Keep looking asshole.

Ok-first of all, education is not a sport. It is not a buisiness. Beyond kids being the issue, education is about a total society. The unfortunate part of all this is that society with all of its freedoms and protections creates a free-for-all mentality that harbors disrespect. This is a daily occurence in the lives of Americans. It even happens here--big surprise. People get too damn big for their britches as the "know-it-all" and "we're-the-best" mentality of the American psyche takes over.

Competition is a lousy way to improve something so unique as this system of educating society. It's perverse, totally biased and degrading. This is not about your little Johnny or your little Susie becoming the next Pulitzer Prize winner. This is about educating a societyas a whole. We as a country are responsibile for keeping this society. It is the way this country was set up and it's why you have the freedom to say whatever the hell you want to. People have become too selfish when it comes to pitching in.

I get a little tired of non-experts in education trying to tell the world how to fix education. Putting power in the hands of parents is the worst thing an educator can do. In my many years of teaching, I can count on one hand all the parents who did the right thing educationally for their children. Most of time, parents try to push for their child to get ahead without thinking of the repercussions this may have on others.

Remedy the problem by fixing curricula? How the snot does that help the kid who has a learning disability?
Public education provides support for ALL children. Unless you want to take away your responsibilities as a citizen, I suggest you support public schools. The child you turn away will probably grow up to be "that criminal kid who lives next door."

Oh, and minorities are not asking for vouchers--that's propaganda.

Check your sources folks.

yippeee! she got a life , she got a life

I guess she just couldn't take the fresh competition.

Well in case anybody wonders what the real purpose of the GB (and other medication) is:

for keeping me company these past 18 months. I had no idea that the random Internet search that lead me here (made because I was bored at work-what a surprise)

A horse-shoe, a (fake) rabbit's foot, a (real) 4 leaf clover, a box of Lucky Charms, a big statue of Ganesh, and loads of hugs and smooches...

Thought I'd keep with the 2nd A theme here. All my dime dancing is through!!!! Thanks to everyone for keeping me company these past 18 months. I had no idea that the random Internet search that lead me here (made because I was bored at work-what a surprise) would lead to some real friends and a summer of Steely Dan parties. It was a pleasure meeting the faces behind the handles and I look forward to more of the same in the future. Au revoir dayshift, off to join the time to time posters.....

Last dime dance and a Gina swirl,

Aja

If you listen to New Frontier, and then to the complete 2nd Arr take, I think you've got an Ed Greene confirmation.

Almost all of the fills in 2nd Arr are completely original, which is a strike against Wendel. Also, I think cassette copies of cassettes coupled with the audio compression circuitry in cheap cassette recorders gives distributed copies of 2nd Arr a less than dynamic quality that sounds Wendelized rather than human.

On the 18 second clip, the slickness and snare drum details between the beats really sound like Steve Gadd.

Walter: Horn charts were written after most of the stuff was done on the tracks.

Donald: I used to write horn parts in the 70s. Usually I used to do them or Walter usded to do them, usually in conjuction with one of the musicians - somebody who would help us with some of the technical parts. I've just become a little more confident about writing the parts and sort of hand them off to somebody to copy. Then I got a lot of help this time from a guy named Michael Leonhart, who is a trumpet player, who played trumpet on the dates and also helped with the arrangements. If we feel it needs some support from horns or some sparkle, we'll write a horn chart for it.

Walter: Minimal as they may be.

Donald: That's usually something we do last.

Lisa G: Howdy girl! I went skiing yesterday. I drove up the mountain by myself for the first time. I loved it!! There was only a handful of us *die-hards* up there. It was beautiful.

Season's End sale was on. Bought tight black ski outfit for next year. oh mama!

Clas: The whole voucher idea wouldn't even be an issue if the public schools here had more value than a pile of dog sh*t. The NEA is one of our nation's worst enemys. They've taken the focus off of the students and placed it on the administration. They've enacted all sorts of destructive and/or pointless policies and programs. Why? Because they CAN. Vouchers is one way of forcing them into reality by putting some power back into the hands of PARENTS. It's a balancing tool, actually.

re Second Arrangement: I love the lyrics. And now they hit close to home in that bittersweet way that is so SD.

rb

Mu; what I can tell from your postings you´re working with these issues(?). I must confess that I don't have the whole picture from your domestic debate. I remember though a very infected debate about the vouchersystem last autumn during my visit in US.
The swedish system works for the students mandatory schoolyears (12) and was introduced 1992 as a responce to a public monopoly on these stages of education. The 'private schools' have to offer some alternative to the public scholls to benefit from óur system. It may be a Montessori-pedagogy;stressing arts,music, religion or whatever. The public schools offers the more general education. Do I have to say that my kids been in a private school (Montessori). The system works out fine and is now less debated than it was in the beginning. We had the same arguments against it in the beginning, but people realize that the 'private' sector really fills a need in the society.
Blaise - I think that you got the answer to your questions from above. The public school fills the need of a "secure" educational system. They have about 90-95% of the students.
As a university-teacher, and in charge of some of our international courses, I can see a difference between 'our' Canadien and US students. The canadiens are less concerned about pleasing me as a professor and more oriented towards learning. The US students are outstanding when it comes to participate in a social context and (compared to canadiens) not that critical towards me. It's not obvious which approach that is to prefer although I like to be questioned.

I've been listening to Medical Science non-stop today. It is the best track on 11TOW...SO WHY ISN'T IT ON MY 11TOW?

OH! MA.... GAWD.. the horror!!!! MNM tell me it ain't so!! ; )

18 second chip eh.. for a different ( jeese I don't know where to begin for a description of this one) styleeee .. listen to some gabba music at 600-1200 bps. ( !! )brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
not brrrr as in cold but as in machine gun fx. ; ) OK nevermind then ; )

It's actually sunny here in Puddle Town today, again, nice!

peas n carrots

mon Mu- check. Broberg notified.

eLLe - Got me a nice bar of Ivory. Rubs into my hair real good.

Rainy, ucky, chilly, day...took advantage of it by snuggling on the couch and watching a great movie...so if anyone is strickened by these symptoms go rent "Finding Forrestor".

dano...Oh, the sun shines bright on my old Kentucky homeee!
Will get the scoop on a new pony for ya...friends brother was Ortho-Vet for Paulson(owner of the "great" Cigar).

Fezo...thanks for clarifying that. Referred to it being "west" because we drove from Va.Beach to there then down to Lexington..took over 6 hours.

So far the O's are sucking for air.

Bringing back sweet memories,
Cyn

I thought the Great ( Canadian) One retired? yeah see you just knew I was gonna add that Canadian thingie didn't yah?
a little Floyd in the mix always is treat.!!
think I'll buy me a football team.

lp & dano -- "but if you ask for a raise (pronounced "rise"), its no surprise that there's giving none away, away, away, away (I certainly was in the right)" Hey, maaaaaaaaaaaaan, I know my daughter loves to help me shave, but can you leave her out of the debauchery associated with our gigs at strip clubs? (Which, of course, gives rich new meaning to the name of our band).

MNM HI!!! praps you should use some Paul Mitchels Tea Tree shampoo, dats nasty!!!!! LOL

would you like some DIP?

Hey! How 'boot those Canucks, eh? ( Vancouver )
ROFLOL

....as ESPN reaches into the bowels of its archives to find an error of a veteran, back to you Jane.....

yeah that Dave Mathews. He pulled a real no-no in the bizz a few years ago. Can anyone explain that further, that chick from VH-1 maybe, because I don't recall all the details. I lost respect for him when it all occured and haven't paid any attention to him since, although he can play I have to admit. Can anyone enlighten me, on the boner he pulled? ( during that time I was dealing with a family crisis so things are kind of blurry)

Besides sounding like he desperately needs to get laid, Mu fucked up last year when he called the '73 Mets "Amazin'"... Actually those were the Mets of Tug McGraw's "Ya Gotta Believe" fame who lost against the A's in the WS... The Miracle Mets were Amazin' in '69 against the O's, of course... But then what in tarnation would a Taxen know.

LP: Yes, I support maternity or paternity leave...

DG: You said: "It seems to me the main problem is political. The biggest problem we face in education is the fact that the whole system is backwards.The people who know the least have the most power, and are the highest paid ( school boards ) while the people who know the most have virtually no power and are the least paid ( teachers )."

You could not be more right: A classic example of a pretzel logic business model (using the worst parts and discarding the best). My thought and Lars' point is that competition is between schools (in a selected manner) with more choice would exist, not competition or an adversarial role between govs. whose role should be cooperative.

Blaise: Do private schools receive shared funding from the province?

NMN: Nah, Phillip Bailey was recruited to utter scratchy drum sounds through a tube hooked up to Hiram Bullock's guitar and then fed into WEdsel - distant cousin of Wendell, a contraption designed by Roger Nichols based on an earlier Dean Parks model...

dano- yeeeeeeeeees,5 years ago during the making of Ultra, David O.D.ed and flat lined-while living in L.A.- but was "given a second chance". This wasn't his first mis-calculation with substance abuse. So he was ordered by law to go into re-hab. and attend meetings etc. He did, and he and Martin ( nice Gretsch!) and Fletch finished Ultra, but they didn't tour for over a year, because they were afraid that Dave would re-lapse. So the first tour after this unfortunate experience for Dave, was the Singles Tour. Dave excelled , clean and sober and his fans went nuts.."literally"
He told his story straight up in RollingStone and the re-action was mixed..some said, "Ah he'll never straighten up this is the end for the band." Others waited anxiously to see how the next tour would turn out. He was fabulous. He nailed IT.Depeche Mode have been together now for over 20 years minus Andy, who has his own band called Recoil. They've been dubbed the "daddy's of techno, in some circles.

DaddyG- Oh, it's Damn*Yankees* this week, is it?

Dr. Mu- Phillip Glass plays drums on the 18 second clip

lp - anyone home, homegirl?

TWAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

the ending guitar is defo. George Benson-ish- Al Dimeola-ish would be much more eLLe-borate!

eLLe-gal fun under the sun
do do dun dun dOOOOooooo dundun twan an do do-do do dodoie do-doei- do-do doOOOOOdo

As much as I love Lou...

Don't worry St Al, they will cool down - I think tonight is when it starts...

Damnyankee Guest

is that you receive a reply almost yesterday when sent today.
Blaise, mr Toth has responded, check your e ..
furthermore, a link to something else he wrote on the official site, no clue how to get to it faster without the link he offered, so ..

http://www.steelydan.com/toth.html

c'est tour maintenant,
au revoir
G.

re: 2nd A, the saga

The angelfire web site owner just responded to my email and he claims he got it from John Granatino and has never heard a longer clip. John comes around the guestbook once in a while and it would be nice if he told us what he knows about this next time.
over

Lars, I find it strange that, given the choice, a parent would opt for public schooling over private since they both cost the same. Be nice if you could explain that part because from a North American point of view, it doesn't make much sense. What is the difference between private and public in Sweden and is it comparable to the difference in our educational system? It has to be different. Btw, Canada (and even more so, Quebec which holds all powers over education) has been influenced by the European model to a greater extent than the US in matters of social policy and education.

Clas - Ok - fair enough! Not Zappa tho? You know he DID write stuff other than his dirty songs - a great string quartet too, by the way.

Mu - It seems to me that the whole point of public education is the representation of the people - i.e. the government - supports a general standard that helps to further our society. While it may not be succeeding right now, isn't the whole point of a business simply to make money? I understand that vouchers don't turn public schools into private schools, but isn't this going in a dangerous direction? Competition from the Fed against the local governments? I agree with what we need to focus on in education, but why not just apply that to the public schools?

It seems to me the main problem is political. The biggest problem we face in education is the fact that the whole system is backwards.The people who know the least have the most power, and are the highest paid( school boards ) while the people who know the most have virtually no power and are the least paid ( teachers ).The Fed can not change this because no one would get reelected if they even suggested it. Of course our system of education is going to be substandard if you have non - educators in control of it - no matter how much money you throw at it. These people simply don't know what they are doing. I hope I am not insulting anyone on this board, but I have had too much experience with both power hungry and well meaning people on these school boards to think differently. To me, you can not fix public education unless you change the power structure drastically - and it seems that could never happen because after all, the PEOPLE know what is best. I think the government is pushing vouchers because it seems to be the only way of controlling the problem - the competition is for these school boards. Who knows, maybe it will work?

To me, even if it works, the cure is worse than the disease.

DG

How about those Mariners!

Hutch -- Neil opening for DMB? Well, it all comes down to numbers. As much as I love Neil Young, when was the last time you saw him fill The Gorge 3 consecutive nights in a row? Sounds like a fabulous double-bill to me. However, I can dig. DMB has simply gotten too damn big for their britches anymore. For the first time since 1994 I'm passing on the tour this year.

Yep, when it comes to concert billing it has nothing to do with status. It's all about money.

StAl

does that mean you like the maternity leave support subsidized by european governments too then my dear Mu? hehehehe - not to change our subject or anything.....;)

my self esteem is just fine, thank you

anon, shut up and learn... Lars, you have the floor. I've been a fan from afar of European systems. Some old friends from Holland who helped us with some research years ago were in a similar system from primary school through college (the gov't would pay for up to 6 years - then they owed military service). I was amazed at their breadth of knowledge and analytical skills. I'd like to hear more. Do you have any other thoughts or suggestions besides the good points you have made already?

....siiinking......siiiinking....siiiiiiiiiinking

and i did not post that mu slam below; i restrict my arguments to the philosophies

Actually, 6% of School funding comes from the Federal Gov't.

Who would identify the "problem" teachers? I sure hope it wouldn't be Mu. Have you ever been wrong in your life DrMu?

School's and finance - In Sweden we finance the kid's school's via taxes. But you are allowed to choose any school you want - public or private. The private schools are runed by a wide range of principals; churches, private corporations, parents or whatever arrangement there is.If you choose a private school that school gets a voucher estimating the whole sum that the public school gets, but, the private school are not allowed to charge any fees from the students. However, they may seek any other financing they wish.In practice they don't have too seek other sources since the vouchers are big enough.

What's the point in a system like that?

-first: it forces the public schools to be competetive (that was the main reason to make this reform);
-second: prohibition of studentfees makes the choise of school a question neutral to the parents income.

Of course there are 'pure' private schools but they are very few and doesn't benefit from the vouchers.

Clas: It is...

angel: I'm sorry, but I cannot agree (I thought this string was over??). 99% of funding for primary and secondary schools is at the local and state level. The money would simply be used more efficiently. If a system or a car or any venture does not work, it the answer simply throwing more $$ in without a plan? Fed $$ would bring accountability. The schools that show problems with teaching would be 1) identified, 2) steps in cooperation with locals and state to remedy the problems, 3) a "grace period" to fix the problems in curricula, then 4) choice given in those targeted school districts social problems, books & supplies. Frankly, a little competition would be good for our school systems. Salaries would increase as would esteem of student, parents, and faculty. If a failed school close down after numerous chances and aid, then GOOD! Therefore, blanket statements based on fear not facts is well...symptomatic of the current state of public education. It's not your fault!. I've previously outlined models of success, so I won't revisit them... Again, we spend more per capita on education than any other country in the world. Distribution, salaries. efficiency, curricula, expectation, and parents should be the focus of our energies...

I personally think it's reprehensible to demand more CHOICE for everything except for our children. More African-Americans as a percentage support vouchers than whites. *That* should be a clue...

fezo: Don't sweat you monogrammed LLBeans (aren't they shipped to all Wahoo alums?). Despite your name-calling: Republican, to show I'm fair and balanced - I'll identify the parts of the pol. spam that are unfortunately correct.

R&D through the National Science Foundation for energy research is up. That's good. But R&D for private industry energy research is proposed to be reduced (20-40% overall depending on the story one believes). This is part of an overall effort of W to cut corporate welfare. Some of this is R&D across the board. I disagree, as I believe that proper R&D funding is one of the FEW areas where the Feds are effective. Now a good part of the cuts are regarding nuclear plants and coal, stuff we've been funding for a long time and engender fear from the public anyway. Biomass research (create your own joke here) will continue at current levels. Wind and solar R&D are being cut. The good news is that state and private R&D in these areas are dramatically higher for wind and solar power. Frankly, wind will never be anything more than supplementary (1-3%). Good for West Texas and parts of California and some of the Midwest. There simply isn't enough wind power without creating a hideous eyesore. The towers are damn ugly. Solar (voltaic) cells are becoming more efficient as we move away from silicon-based cells. I'd like to see more cooperative R&D with Ballard and other companies on the forefront of fuel cells (hydrogen battery). Fuel cells should be profitable soon, I hope. Fill 'er up with distilled...

Listened to 2nA clips 'til 1 in the morning. Still like the mystery.wav better (less robotic)...Then some of Gadd's stuff with Paul Simon (ex. 50 ways to leave...) and Al DiMeola and Charlie, since it doesn't resemble Glamour Profession or Third World Man. Damn, I just can't tell if it's Gadd or Greene. It's not Porcaro (different kind of drum roll/shuffle) or Purdie or Jordan (Steve, not Michael)...

Flori, Happy Boithday mate, hope you did"nt wake up with an octagenarian saying "Was It Good For You" last night.
Them old codgers have nothing on yer sisters mate??

Elle , Dave Gahan he nearly pegged it right, but he is still on the road in the UK.

Dr Mu, Daddy G, I totally agree with you guys not enough parents take time out to sit and read with there wee ones, but you get so much enjoyment with them doing just that.

Blaise, cracking wee boy on the photo , spitting image of your good self mate??

Cara Mia ( hubba hubba), I didnt have a clue Howard Jones did
IGY, But he is still touring around England , but without that stupid ejit he had as a mimic??He was a katmando.

Edd, Evertime they change their mind you got a better job was brilliant mate, creased me severely.

Lady B , hope you land on your feet as they say here.
I lost my last job through Illness..................The boss was sick of me.

lp, my family and friends were ok , but my coffeee was sour??

WIP, Make sure Aja gives you a close shave before you go to that strip club mate, want daddy to look real smooooooth.

Wormy , that bloody Dunt dah Nuhhh has been buggin me all day and its doin ma heed in??

Miz D, I always thought if you put Walter in a stetson and a long coat , he could be in "The Outlaw Josey Wales"

TWM, AWB In Glaesga in June/July aye yae up fir it bigman??

So fine so young , Tell me I"m the only one.

Gotta leg it the girlies in the office did"nt even know I could work on a computer, exit stage right............

My redneck friend Deep Down South is always complaining he's paying BOTH for public schools (via the taxes) and for the private schools he put his kids in (private, taxed money).

midnite: just Dave on (multiple) guitars. no appearances by Tim Reynolds. Neil/Crazy Horse was just the opening act for the C'ville show.

Hutch: it's funny that you mentioned Mayall. he actually had a show up here Saturday night too. from what i heard, sounded great then delighted everyone by hanging out with the crowd afterwards

Lars - skolpeng? Jag fattar inte. Det var femton år sedan min grabb slutade plugget.

Angel/LP - I don't understand. Aren't the public schools mainley supported by tax-money?

So, let me think; vouches are taken from taxmoney? So using vouches means that you actually are pumping tax-payed-money into private schools?

My redneck friend Deep Down South is always complaining he's paying BOTH for public schools (via the taxes) and for the private schools he put his kids in.

Could this vouches-thing be an argument against his whining?

Daddy G - yeah, pop/jazz-composer, well, blury.

My point is; okay for Keith Jarrett, Bobby Mcferrin etc, but Fagen? No, I don't think so. Not Zappa either.

Howard - welcome back. So man, have you been working on the transcripts of West of Hollywood?

C

LP - Look for this one as a souvenir. There must be one of those greyish record stores in the Boston area.
http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_mansfield00.htm

Or it was free on Nappy but I wouldn't know about these things...
StAl's gonna kill me for such activities.
I was talking about Glamour Profession, btw.

WT - boom -- dadada boo doom -- da da
boom boom boom dada do doom -- dada do doom (repeat)
LOL

walpimbakag

Clas - skolpeng

ah dish cuss shuns on things musical

thanks Blaise, good Dr Mu, Howard and others for the enlivening discussions

Glamour Profession
Yes that bouncy bassline is mesmerizing, and I just love the subtle way the horns lay a little laid back drawn out counterpoint to the bass on the couple measures before the versus

dunt da nuhhh, da na nuh na na nant nah

it seems to heighten the drama

Happy belated B-day to FloriDave

Lady B - sorry to hear on the job
hoping opportunity knocks in big ways

looking forward to meeting Jim#, AMy and Aja and
getting away for part of the fest

wt

living hard will take it's toll

Good morning all...

Clas: School vouchers. I believe it is a way to get credit for some of the money you pay in school taxes. You would get this voucher, which you could then use to help pay your fee at a private school. The bottom line being, that public schools would receive much less money.

Blaise: You are the search engine genius of this guestbook. :-)

KD: Great image of you and your dad at that concert.... :-)

Ole: Have aliens abducted you? Come back. We miss you and your web page.... :-)

Good day all.....

William and Mary won't do....

which one's pink: the image of you riding a pole, or better yet, having money stuffed into your pants during "money" was too much this morning, what a wake-up call - you are too damn funny - have fun and please post your review of the show from your side of the stage please

clas: exactly my point - coupons for school, as if.....

blaise: you lost me, which song on the mansfield show are you speaking of - i was likely dancing on my seat and may not have noticed a misheard lyric, but i'll give it a try - where can i get these downloads of which you speak?

lady b: my thoughts are with you, re-group and re-connect, and, if you can swing it, take the summer off, you won't regret it (did that in 91 when that happened to me) - my e is down so that's why i haven't sent a personal note, but take a breather if you can and hit a new course!

sh: was out last night, can't e you but i will when i can

best wishes, how's the seas today everyone and how did you take your coffee - lol.....

Howard - Glamour Profession has this lasting quality that you rarely find within the dance music format. The bass line is indeed a mutha and one of the reasons I don't grow tired of it. This is a disco groove after all but, I agree, what an awesome one at that! Anthony Jackson is credited for the playing which is meaty, beaty, big and bouncy in a very funky way. Hard to describe with mere words... there's a spot that leads to the fade out where the bass plays some kind of solo section and I like that part a lot.
There is a sound file out there taken from the Mansfield show from last year and it's basically a note-for-note rendition if you put aside the different guitar lick (an Herrington signature) and the added backup vocals on the tail end of it. Btw, just what was the babe choir repeating at the end of that one? Misheard lyrics, anyone? I asked Miz Ducky before and she couldn't remember. LP? Anyone who's heard it or was there? Sounds like "ooohhh like a push in the bush" but I hope and pray I'm wrong. It did fit the song gracefully. Of the many concerts that I've heard from last year's tour, the one from Boston is the most lively. One of those when Donald and the rest of the crew seem really into it. The file for Dirty Work sounds like a million bucks. Again, they really should consider an official release of some of that material if they hold any they find decent enough.

Clas- Yeah, right!

all this talk about other Gaucho versions etc almost forces me to get that particular album on CD as well. the vinyl copy i have has this major fire-place soundbite all over Third World Man and although i'll never part from it, it has no cover since i used that for a Babylon Sister collage once ..OK, i just convinced myself, when i walk my doggy Gaucho i'll make a stop at the CD-store and order Gaucho on CD. am i happy?
yes i am.

as far as the bassline's concerned .. a walking bass, a Gene Kelly/Fred Astaire fingerdancing thang. maybe even this Gregory Hines tapdancing *wink* and a West Side Story George Chakiris cooooool slide snapping into it's destined opiumnated allure to sooth our ears.

it's a frivolous day today.
yes. definitely!

Banyan Tree Fezz's Up Bow,
Gdot

I'm really enjoying the 2nd Arrangement debate! Great to collect the clues and individual thoughts on the matter. Also good that there are different views on the subject, but we're able to have a good-natured discussion about it.

Having more of that short-intro clip would really help. If there are horns on it, that would support Blaise's view that this is the original version.

My guess would be that the later parts of that clip are fairly minimal, and comprise just the basic rhythm section, i.e no horns, no backing vocals etc. I think they would have abandoned the remake at that stage, without into overdubs. That's also the main reason I think the full-length version is the original - it's no near to being complete.

The drum/Wendel question is a tricky one though. The short clip could well be Steve "50 ways" Gadd on drums, suggesting this is a remake, but the full version does have that fairly solid and simple Wendel-Gaucho drum feel ...

Hi Lisa G and thanks for the welcome! Good to be back.

Thought for the day: isn't the bass line on Glamour Profession one of the all-time great Steely bass lines? Every time I hear that track, the bass blows me away.

Howard

And it would greatly help if the owner of the mystery clip would respond to his/her email. Maybe he/she is deceased despite the fact that he/she appears to be live and kicking in cyberspace. You never know...

KD flying on cable... I feel so... inadequate now.

If Zappa is a genius so are The Boys.

Clas - I am not sure I understand - there are plenty of "classical " composers who also wrote in the pop/jazz genre and vice - verse . Sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didn't, but I think that if you only write pop/jazz music, you could probably still qualify as a genius?

Some great "crossover" artists: ( and people I happen to think had/have genius. )
Leonard Bernstein
George Gershwin
Maurice Ravel
Frank Zappa
Andre Previn
Sergei Rachmoninoff
Duke Ellington
Keith Jarrett
Bobby Mcferrin

Well, you know - just my opinion!

DG

Mu - Thanks for the Honoris Doctorate. It makes up for the one I left in limbo in the "real" world. Even Becker and Fagen will pick up those at Berklee in a few days so the idea is timely. And Mu deserves the credit for first posting the mystery wave file on this board about a year ago, I must say. You're mistaking the different positions here but it doesn't really matter as long as we advance the topic ever so slightly. In fact, I believe going totally anon for debates like these might be a blessing (if handled in a responsible manner) since all personal matters would stay out of the quest for the truth. That might explain why I almost lost my handle along the way.:-) But that might have a lot to do with posting boots at the root here and my unwillingness to take the blame for it as well. For the record, it was not me. To me the short clip is part of the erased original. I'm basing this on Nichol's comment that a real drummer was used for that particular version. The playing is just too intricate for the state of automation at the time (Wendel was merely a baby). The longer, more widespread version sounds like real drums but put on a loop through Wendel to me. And I assume horns might show up in the mix after the intro on the short clip but that is pure speculation. I too wish people like Bob Tedde or others who have researched the subject in the past would add their two cents on this one.

angel - No it's not one of those made up links of mine this time.;-) If you perform searches using different search engines, you often come up with different results or things you did not expect to find such as the Wall Street Journal's article. It makes some good points about message boards. Maybe Mr Toth is a lurker here, who knows?

Gina - check your e... hey yo, you in chat, girl? I'm not. lol

Floridave - 30? Man, you don't look over 25 to me. Happy belated Birthday.

"...horn arranger in LA..." For the 2nd Arrangement? Rob Mounsey?

???

But Mu said that Fagen is sitting at the Grand, with pen and paper, writing it all down, figuring it all out, (like Bernstein, Gershwin etc did before him) BEFORE they get to the studio...?

What's happening here Doc?

C

Goodmorning Gina!

goodmorning Clas, sweet dreams others, probably :-)

hi Blaise, check your e ..

Jennywenny, YES.
Have a great time inhaling the world of ms Jones!!!
Let me/us know what it was like!

off again,
Banyan Tree Grin,
G.

the Truth - you haven't read his emails.

the Stranger - well, that wasn't my words... but I trust those words, coming from a highly educated journalist on the biggest SocialDemocratic media in Sweden (no marxist-leaning there, no way). I wrote to him and asked for a "bottom line". And he was kind to respond. So Stranger, I think he's done his homework, and though you are partial, one-sided, I prefer to lean on the Swedish one. No offense though.

Cyn - read above, those were not my words, maybe that's why they are easy on the eyes? :)

Dr Mu/LP/Lisa G - I tried to follow the school discussion. But that word "vouches" really confuses me, I looked it up but the book said "coupon"... ?

Lisa g - come on Lisa G, be careful with your words, Fagen is not a genius. He's a great composer, but genius... that's a too strong word for a pop/jazz-composer.

Leonardi da Vinci was probably a genius. But he didn't get it all for free, he had to study and practice hard to become what he was/is.

C

Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 21:55:43
Comments:

Yes angel, I plan on riding a pole during comfortably numb. NOW that's entertainment!

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Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 21:02:05
Comments:

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Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 20:50:18
Comments:

I think they opened with "Boston Rag" as a favor to me. My father, sitting next to me, starting singing very loudly (and adding, "YOU'VE GOT TO BRING IT ON HOME!!!") in every single chorus. It gave me a chance to tell him:

"Dad, love the enthusiasm, and I love the fact we're seeing this together. Believe me, I want to sing along too. But, if I can hear you, you're too loud."

It was all good after that.

Except for the fact that he went to the bathroom and missed "Night by Night," off his favorite Steely LP. We'd been partaking before the show.

Name: angel
Lonnie was the kingpin

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 20:40:55
Comments:

A real HOT day in L.A. today. That's what I get for giving Lisa G a bad time last Sunday. She was running air conditioning in April, something I refuse to do this early. Well, now we are suffering.... :-)

Lady B: Check your e....

W1P: Do you have something to tell us about your participation in this show? LOL
"Which One's Pink? will appear LIVE at Pleasures in Pasadena, a strip bar. I am forced to attend this show."
Sorry to hear you had to travel with little Aja. Always a challenge, flying with them.
I too think I am going to have to pass on the Damned. :-(
I believe divorce might follow, if I do this every month. My husband was very good to let me see them in NY, but I don't want to rock the boat too often. I think I can make the case if they get to L.A. I even have friends who would attend with me....

Blaise: How did you find that article on fans on the internet and how did they come across the 2nd Arrangement thread? Did you, perchance, tell them? Oh, I also loved the old article from MOJO. It had alot of the same backround that the Rolling Stone article from last year had. But there were some other things, that I had never seen. I especially loved hearing that Kawai told his dad that he loved the song Android Warehouse. Very funny.

Miz D: Speaking of the Rolling Stone article, I was sorry to hear that Lonnie passed away at some point. Not surprising, just sad. I wonder if they opened with "The Boston Rag" as a sort of tribute? Interesting thought.

Night all....

Back in nineteen sixty-five....

Name: Floridavid
don't worry/be happy

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 20:12:55
Comments:

Thanks for all the great Birthday wishes....you people are why I keep coming back here.I was listening to Steely Dan long before I found my way here. you all just make it so much better.
LadyB- Hang in ...you're destined for even greater things.

Name: cara mia
let's dance

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:51:13
Comments:

L-eeMay Gee Whiz, me an' the Swissmeister are seeing Jonatha B (now AKA "J Bro" to her hip fans) at Irving Plaza on the 10th. Please come see her, _you won't be sorry_... (now I sound like those loser male single ads I read). I think NMN and his lovely M are coming down for it too. Mrs NMN used to sing in college with JB. Possibly the 11th is doable. I will E you...
Roll Call! Aus, Babes, Lady B, Daddy G... can we crash a DOMC?

making myself sick with alliterative rhyming tonight due to 28 years of Joni Mitchell worship,
cara mia

Name: DrMu


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:40:51
Comments:

LB: Hang in there

FD: Happy birthday! Geez. I'd take 30 OR the "drum set"

Name: Commodian
2nd Arrangement Personnel

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:38:04
Comments:

From p.137 in Sweet's book (1st edition):

The original/erased take had Hiram Bullock on guitar, Will Lee on bass, (the late) Don Grolnick on keys, Ed Greene on drums.

Elliot Scheiner, who was the tracking engineer on the date is quoted as saying he didn't understand why they brought in Steve Gadd to re-cut.

So - it makes sense that the complete take with Bullock's obvious guitar, and background vocals was possibly a dub of the real thing for the horn arranger. Bob Tedde talked to the 2nd Arr horn arranger in LA about getting the original arrangements for The Steely Damned. I think he said it was Rob Mounsey. Perhaps Mr. Tedde could comment.
The mystery wav sure sounds like Steve Gadd to me...

Name: DrMu


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:32:40
Comments:

Long day...Honorary Dan doctorates to Blaise, Howard, et al. The sound of the "long cut" of 2ndA blends in with the numbers in the Gaucho outtakes available that made it to final pressing. This would be consistent with the "long clip" of the track being laid down at the same time with a core of instrumentation missing maybe finished vocals a horn or two, etc. I believe the guitar on the Wendelized version might be Steve Khan making it a later demo. Souped-up demos. If indeed that's Ed Greene on the drums (dem's real drums - more resonance) in the short clip and if the full 2nd Arrangement was the first recorded (then erased) AND Wendel was being soldered together, Howard's theory that the short wav. clip is a bit of the original version (minus maybe the vocals) seems valid.

How about that really spare 2nd Arrangement demo with just piano, Rhodes, bass, and Fagen's vocals? Has to be early with "working" lyrics. I love the groove and the chords set up here and in the other more spare Gaucho demos Kulee Baba, and Can't Write Home About You. Those chords laid down make me tingle - chord slut city. Kinda the heart of SD to me. Reminds me of the Katy Lied days where the acoustic piano ruled...The sight of more ballads and songs in the can have me salivating. Then there are all of those Aja outtakes somewhere, somehow...

You bet Babylon Sisters and Gaucho were less Wendelized. Perhaps they were recorded earlier. However, check out Third World Man, the last song written and recorded. Gadd's given freedom (and why not). By that time, Fagen and co. were probably sick of the whole recording process and another month tweaking with Wendell was abhorrant, just grab that guitar solo from way back and close the deal.

Any REM fans - downloads of Imitation of Life from an upcoming album are available with Liquid Audio. Liquid Audio MP3s have quite a decent sound. I think they're programmed with a certain shelf life - a month or two after an album's release, the MP3 is unplayable. Clever promotional trick. Anyway, big hooks and nice sound on the track. Reminiscent of an upbeat and ironic Automatic for the People/ Out of Time period. The melody has some Beatles "i'm Only Sleeping" quality - more snappy though...

dano: Don't forget the books. We've been reading every day since ours were babies. My son in kindergarten read a 2nd grade book to me this evening...those Nam flashbacks are gone tonight.

fezo: I and a few others upped the standards so Lee Atwater's bastard children no longer waste the other students' time...

Name: Lisa G
Northeast of Dollywood

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:32:13
Comments:

Hi Cara!

What's up for the weekend of May 11th? How long will you be in for?

Elle Gee Whiz

Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:30:00
Comments:

Tribute bands that conquered the world update . . . The Steely Damned will appear LIVE at the Cannibal Bar at the Catamaran Resort Hotel in San Diego THIS FRIDAY NIGHT! Wish I could be there. Which One's Pink? will appear LIVE at Pleasures in Pasadena, a strip bar. I am forced to attend this show. 6 hours at Ft Wayne airport yesterday, 4 at O'Hare all with my 13 month old Aja. Now if that's not fun, I don't know what is.

Name: cara mia
on second thought

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:25:44
Comments:

that IGY by HJones might not be the first track...I just always go to it first. Can't find the case now to check.

Name: cara mia
Dan moment@West of DollyWood

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:21:16
Comments:

On the "Judging Amy" opening on CBS minutes ago, Tyne Daily was dancing with Richard Crenna (they are in luv fictionally) to "Rikki..." done by a jazz quartet...the cheesy-sounding sax puffing the melody.
He sez, "What does this song remind you of?"
She sez, "Picking out produce?"

HA! I sez... RDLTN is officially now a casualty of Muzak-itis.

Lady B, Ms K--mucho regrets about the salt mine. Keep the lip stiff as you come out of shock...maybe take a vacation to the Southland. The B and B is open. Seriously, I hope you land something great quickly.

Jim, Wormy, Aja...have a hooterias time on us and tell us about it, please. Yes, Tom. Tuck and Patti exude warmth, almost palpable like no two folks I ever met. There is something almost eerie about it.

Dano--Yes, Howard Jones, on his "Best Of" compilation opens with IGY, sticking very much to Donald's arrangement with his keyboards imitating the horns, of course.
BTW, you are pretty hubba-hubba yourself my tallish, ruggedly handsome man, you...

Happy Day, David. What to feel? G-R-A-T-E-F-U-L that you've got 50 years to go before looking and feeling like that mister octogen-fella. By then we ought to have better joints and prettier skin.

L-U-V,
cara mia

Name: LG
Two pics shaker...

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:17:03
Comments:

St. Al-Two galleri fotos coming your way.

They're so light and fluffy white...

Name: H


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:06:35
Comments:

... about the bad news...

Name: Hutch
fanhippie

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 19:02:59
Comments:

Happy Birthday David!!! Hope you finish your gig tonight with plenty of time to spare for partying. Have a great time!

Sorry to hear about bad news, Lady B. No worries. Things will come together.

Yeah, that guitar hook at the intro to 2nd Arrangement is really strong. I have no doubt it would have been the single released for Gaucho had it not been erased.

fezo - Neil Young opening for DMB? Even if I was a Dave Matthews fan I'd be appalled. I saw a show in Richmond a few years back where John f***ing Mayall!!! OPENED... I said OPENED for The Georgia Satellites. I was embarrassed.

Name: Lisa G
Welcome to "River Condos"

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 18:21:36
Comments:

Greetings all!

Lady B-dearest, so sorry to hear about the job situation. But I agree--when one door closes, another opens. And usually what's on the other side is far superior. Keep the faith, my sistuh, and check your e-.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, FLORIDAVID! Come on, really? Is it true--30?

Wormtum-Another post from you--how blessed is that? Feeling excited for ya'll festing the weekend. Report everything, friends.

Wish I knew more about the "Second Arrangement." I suppose I should count myself as lucky for having heard it live by "The Damned." Being relatively new to SD (coming up on a year of fandom) I did not realize the controversy at the time. Way cool tune. Gotta check out these sites.

KD-Sorry to hear about your job loss, too. From your post, it seems like it was no big deal. Hope you're enjoying your way-fast cable modem, too. I will never go back! (Thanks DaddyG for talking me into this. Now you can relish in those three little words...)

Speaking of deals, we just found out today that our landlord wants to sell. He's giving us the required ninety days. If we can swing it, we might make him an offer he can't refuse.

Chairman Torres-I think we definitely need to have an emergency meeting, ASAP, to discuss the ever-evolving saga of life and the changes it takes us through. Game plan needed. Will await your correspondence.

Mu-interesting points you make Re: education solutions. I can see that your point of view is clearly from post-secondary ed. Some good ideas.

Ruby-how you been, Lady?

lp-thanks for the test. I got it a few months ago, so I didn't do it again. But you know I can't remember what my result was. I will do it again and post right away.

jk-you devil. Just listened to the tape in its entirety--twice. Delta movin'--you're the cat's MEOW, man!

Hi Howard! You're still my favorite. (Shh, don't tell DaddyG. I might get in Troub-bull...)

L Gee

Name: Jennywennymoneypenny
does this count as any sort of Dan referrence??? LOL

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 17:13:06
Comments:

Well, didn't really have time to scroll to intently, just a bit of speed reading, but THIS I did catch...

Lady B~ So sorry to hear of the latest...got an e headed your way...please check.

So, gonna take in a Rickie Lee Jones show on May 25th at The Caravan of Dreams in Fort Worth. This place is awesome. I've seen Tower of Power there, plus a few others, and the name of the joint really does it justice. Can't wait. Looks like I'll actually have a gig review to post myself here, after that. Woohoo! I'll be takin' notes for you all...*winks* to Gina...

and the silver will turn to gold...

Jenny

Name: Robin
.

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 16:16:03
Comments:

Blaise -- great link! So true, so true...

KD -- I like your suggestion; count me among the supporters! Aren't cable modems wonderful?

FloriDave -- Happy birthday! May you brighten the day of the gentleman in whose honor you are performing. Maybe not the ideal way to spend one's birthday, but it gives you yet another chance to celebrate your own on a different day! Enjoy!

LadyB -- Bummer. Another door will open soon for you. Hang in there.

Just got back from a short trip, must attempt to get caught up on other happenings...and some sleep.

Later,

Robin

Name: Lars
-

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:56:52
Comments:

I worked in Charlottesville and, well, it's nice but a little too neat and clean for my taste. Lousy football-team but a very good recordstore are my main memories. I suppose Danville is more real and living, Cruiser. I saw on the map that you live by highway 29. Cruise that south and you pass Athen's! My "hometown" in U.S.. Cool.

Gina - well you got me on that one. There are some sentences that doesn't make any sence at all ,while some of it was quite easy to understand. Krumbuktande stämband och en tjock tunga i tryckförband. Yes I was amused.

Tot ziens

Lars van der Schemlijtch

Name:


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:51:31
Comments:

Everybody, yeah. Let's.

Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:51:13
Comments:

just picked up a Vivino/Fagen live version of the Late Night with David Letterman theme, is this possible?

Nothing like grey sportcoats and white Adidas to bring me back...

Name: Everybody


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:48:36
Comments:

I've got a better idea-let's delete the anons from the archives and replace them with Fever Dreams.

Name: edbeatty
@pe.net

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:46:33
Comments:

HEY,
OK,for what its worth-

I second that motion by KD

Name: Somebody


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:43:00
Comments:

Nobody -- *BANG BANG*

Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:34:23
Comments:

so, Oleander's site has gone over Earthlink's monthly service quota, it's been too damn popular:

http://home.earthlink.net/overquota.html

...as some noted below.

I wonder, if WebDrone is nice enough to let St. Al archive the GB archives on the band's server, why can't we put Ole's site on it? Not in addition to the archives, but as a replacement.

The Guestbook gets to vote on the most inessential month in the Guestbook's history, boot that month off the server, and add Fever Dreams? Eh? Will it work? I haven't asked anyone, so somebody shoot me down.

Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 15:08:17
Comments:

cable modem, finally...

Howard, Blaise- great work, great stuff, great love for a great song. Thank you.

cutts- nice!

Name:


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 14:46:37
Comments:

clever underground topsoilantries, too sublime!

swwima

Name:


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 14:44:15
Comments:

cute underground things totally supplicant?

come up the topsoil's superb?

Name:


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 14:12:25
Comments:

cutts =

climbing up to the surface?

compiled utterances that Tom supplies?

can u top these selections?

crawling under the top soil?

cruising up the transisland skyway?

wutbf

Name: DaddyG
tomayto tomahto

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 14:09:40
Comments:

Sorry Gina - just a dumb American's tranliteration

Droopy Gargle

Name: Blaise
good one, cutts!

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 13:59:04
Comments:

"Then, at the end of 1979, THE FIRST COMPLETED TRACK for the album, a song called The Second Arrangement, was accidentally wiped by a studio engineer."
Mojo Interview 1995
http://www.steelydan.com/mojo.html

So it's possible the original version of the track was pre-Wendel and used live drums instead of what you witness later on on Gaucho.
"After a long wait, Gaucho was released to an eager audience. While the music was of the usual high leveI, it should be noted that, drum-wise, this album is much simpler than previous ones. Except for a Purdie shuffle on "Babylon Sisters" and Porcaro's odd-meter forays on "Gaucho," the rhythms are all 8th-note grooves. No cranking shuffles like "Black Friday" or jungle grooves like "I Got The News." Part of this might have been Becker and Fagen's desire to fully explore their WENDEL, a sequencing tool that could quantite, sanitize, and generally sterilize a drum track.
"That was Roger Nichols and the computers," says Marotta, who played on "Hey Nineteen" and "Time Out Of Mind". "WENDEL wasn't perfected then, so occasionally it was a little stilted. They were experimenting, taking little snippets of what we played and looping it."
http://www.granatino.com/sdresource/md1.htm#gaucho

It's all a matter of timeline, maybe? The one using Wendel was possibly done later on. You're right though Howard, until we get more info on the short clip. we are merely speculating.
E-mailed the owner of that clip again today so I'll either be served a restricting order or get my info.
I also came across this interesting take on the internet and fandom using this "second arrangement obsession" as a prime example. LOL
http://www.wsj.com/public/current/articles/SB973785588277063819.htm

My private obsession made public, I'm glad I find others with the same condition...

Name:


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 13:43:11
Comments:

top ten things that happened to the engineer assistant after he erased the "2nd Arrangement"

12) quietly deported, became "Third World Man"
11) asked to stand in humiliation in middle of studio floor clad only in spangled leather poncho
10) I believe he just got the goodbye look
9) asked "do you have the 'first arrangement' on backup?"
8) was shown that dark closet full of smashed DBX machines
7) poster boy for a six month release delay
6) exiled to recording boy bands in the 90's
5) starred in a steely dan trek movie "The Wrath of Don"
4) look guys "24 tracks a whack" didn't cut it
3) RiverSounds named after his Hoffa like disappearance
2) praying like a roman to no avail
1) there were 35 goodbyes, but none of them sweet

cutts

Name: eLLe
..

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 13:41:25
Comments:

right-effin-ON!!!! ditto that "AHHHHHHHHHH"-Daddy G
very cool, very , very cool!!! say hi to the Lisa, I'm out to commune with nature for the rest of the day.
have a good one everyone
cheers.

Name:


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 13:34:09
Comments:

... the fuck was that anyway?

Name: Gina
N thais ment

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 13:29:33
Comments:

Dat zou dan zijn het Concertgebouw, Dull Glass.

Lars, hoogstwaarschijnlijk zul jij je hiermee amuseren en de rest van dit gepeupelte niet, uit lichte nieuwsgierigheid wellicht leest men het eens over, met stijgende verbazing en kromgetrokken stembanden en een dikke tong in drukverband met extra krammetjes. Omdat Worm mijn gebruik van de moedertaal kan waarderen, speciaal voor hem een rondje Nederlands. Ik zou eens een tekst van Steely Dan moeten vertalen, wat zal dat idioot klinken. Nou. Geef mijn portie maar aan Fikkie, zoals ze hier plegen te zeggen. Voor de toevallige Nederlandse passant die hier al dan niet moedwillig verzeild raakte, mensen zijn zo raar als raar maar wezen kan en wil je verschillen oplossen, zet ze dan op een eiland en laat ze aan hun lot over.

Banyan Boom Voor Wormy Buiging,
Gina

Name: DaddyG
just visiting...

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 13:00:06
Comments:

eLLe - sorry, no - the Bronx, NY original. Just went up there to soak in the information provided by the legendary Zoltan Szekly

A brief conversation:

Me - Is that you playing to a full house at Concertgebau ( MAJOR hall in Amsterdam )?
Zolie - yes, I was playing the Ravel Sonata
Me - oh, who was your pianist?
Zolie - Ravel

In a word - -AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Definate - let's go to the springs! : )

Dull Glass

Name: Jim
#

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 12:59:55
Comments:

Lady B: Does this mean you're free for Nawlins? :-) My best regards, sweetie.

Name: Aussie Torres
@work
Location: New York, NY USA
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 12:47:17
Comments:

Just had a scrumptious lunch with LadyBaySide at a local, popular power steak house. Did my darndest to cheer her soul up. I think it worked....momentarily at least. She thanks those who have offered kind words of support....

Back to war.

Aus

Name: eLLe
.

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 12:43:19
Comments:

WOOOHOOOOOOO! just scored my Clapton tix, and not too shabby seats either. I haven't been to a concert in over 3 years! Last one was The Depeche Mode Singles Tour, that we caught in Detroit Michigan. The Dave Gahan back from the dead tour ; ) j/k
YES! *punches air*

Name: Miz Ducky
Emily Posting

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 12:21:06
Comments:

Heavens, I'm falling behind on my social obligations! What would Miss Manners think?

First--Aussie, a belated "welcome back." I'm sure you and your permasqueeze were able to teach the Parisians a thing or two about doing the "bon vivant" thang.

Angel--whew! glad the article finally arrived. Some link in the snail-mail chain between me and thee must be traveling via ox-cart or something.

Floridave--Happy birthday, guy! I will make sure to have a few libations in your honor ASAP.

Lady B--condolences on your layoff. After a decade of service, that is definitely a bummer. But I too am sure you'll only land something bigger and better, especially with that decade of experience.

Okay, I think/hope I'm caught up now ... yikes!

/the Mam'zelle
now feeling all Martha Stewart

Name: Gina
D-Day

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 12:18:27
Comments:

as in happy David-Day, best wishes and a fun gig(gle) among the kin(d)..

Lady B, look at it this way, it saves ya the trouble of quitting yourself. If you were planning on leaving the job anyway, it's just another timetable then, wouldn't worry too much, there's room for something N E W and that's always a challenge!

there's paintings, animated video's in mind, recipes, tribute bands, a webradio station, a dictionary, pets named after, children named after, license plates, t-shirts, websites hosted by fans, chatrooms, mailing lists, a guestbook, new communities, danfests, fans who turn lyrics upside down, fans who turn the sheet music upside down .. wedding dansongs, funeral dansongs, suicide dansongs, making out dansongs, lawn mowing dansongs, bathroom dansongs, cybersurfing dansongs, elevator dansongs, baby shower dansongs, promnight dansongs, hangover dansongs, teenage dansongs, old geezer dansongs, midlife crisis dansongs, trailerpark dansongs, penthouse dansongs, suburb dansongs, cadillac dansongs, pontiac dansongs, subaru dansongs, bmw dansongs, peugeot dansongs, shopping mall dansongs, midnight snack dansongs, broken heart dansongs, remastered dansongs, never released dansongs ..

and now for something completely different:

Name: eLLe
..

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 11:33:47
Comments:

dano- yeah that's her, on the beach with Chris, very sexy vid, Wicked Games. No wonder that image comes to ( your) mind when you hear the song, you've obviously seen the vid at one time.: )

Daddy G- ahh cool! wonderful Banff!! I love it there and the school, good stuff. High Tea at the Banff Springs, and a dip in the mineral springs later, then? ~hehe~ Are you from Canada then?

Blaise, yeah, Black Cars, thanks for the info, bro

Reality vs. Bullshit- did my homework... gotta say.. if it wasn't for Abrahams' wife, giving Abraham her servant to produce a child she thought she was uncapable of conceiving, this bullshit wouldn't be going on today. ( I read that on my papyrus scroll)
( and "she" should feel honoured because I don't usually break it open because it could crumble)

you maybe got lucky for a few good years
but there's no way back from there to here

Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 11:21:56
Comments:

LadyB- Sorry to hear about your situation, but it won't last. I lost my more prominent job a couple of weeks ago, and the market isn't as bad as they say it is (arsenic or not). Hang in there.

Happy B-Day Floridavid!

Name: Midnite Cruiser
http://listen.to/Jim

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 10:49:42
Comments:

GE....thanks from Opti for the good wishes....hope to know a little more Thursday.

steviedan....are cameras allowed at the Ritz? I've got this new Nikon Coolpix 990 with the 3x teleconverter that could get some killer pics of Eric & Derek if I can bring it with me. It's relatively small and unobtrusive and I wouldn't be doing any flash photography. Please advise if you can!!!

Roy, Hutch, Jim#....anyone going to see EJ in Norfolk or Richmond?

Name: Edd


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 10:48:52
Comments:

Floridave, happy 30th!

LB- Worry not. In the last 10 years I've been laid off, sold off, fired, rehired, quit, self-employed, and promoted. All by the same company.

Everytime they change their mind, I end up making more money in a position I like better.

You'll do fine.

Name: GE
good news, bad news

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 10:40:57
Comments:

Had to post a big Happy B-Day to Floridave. Way to go Old Man. Soak those old bones a little longer tonight will ya?

Sorry to hear LadyB about the job situation. I'm sure things will work out for the better. The few times I've been laid off, I improved my situation greatly with a better job.
Don't remember many layoffs when Clinton was president. Mmmmm

No e-messages LP but did get the test. Will review for answers at a later date.
As for Chicago, what the hell, let's invite everyone. Drinks on LP!!

Enjoying the 2nd Arrangement discussions and the in depth research by Blaise and Howard. As a former recording engineer, I'm hesitant to bash the poor guy who did it, but it is very easy to do in the old days of 24-track analog recording. Anybody besides me notice some similarites in the 2nd Arrangement and Green Flower Street? Just a thought.

Finally, a Tuck and Patti story. While living in San Francisco in the 80's, I was involved as a sound engineer in an attempted "good will" hook-up between a peace organization in SF and one in the Soviet Union via phone lines/early computer link. Well the link was short lived (something on their end) but Tuck and Patti were the entertainment for the coffee and brie crowd and as noted, couldn't have been nicer. I made a 2 channel reel to reel copy of their performance but for the life of me, I can't find it in all the subsequent moves. If I ever do, copies will be forthcoming but I've been looking for about 10 years and no luck so far.

Best Wishes to Opti and see ya all in chat.

GE

Name: AAA


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 10:39:38
Comments:

No you don't get it. You didn't pay your dues.

Name: Chips
LB good

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 10:26:27
Comments:

Triple A? - Oh, I get it, we call you when there's a flat....

Name: Anonymous Assholes Anonymous


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 10:22:16
Comments:

We here at the triple A would like to add our condolences upon news of Lady Bayside's loss. Their loss is our gain.

Name: DaddyG
Instant Karma

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 10:16:29
Comments:

Yes Lady of all that is Bayside - this is an opportunity - keep that in mind and the universe will answer.

DaddyG

Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 09:54:05
Comments:

FloriDavid....Happy Birthday Dude! Hope you enjoy the gig.

LadyB....sorry to hear about you being laid off....hope something better comes along in the near future.

fezo....was the Neil Young opener just for Charlottesville? I'd love to see him play! I saw DMB on the Crash tour and the band was excellent. I hope this weekends show is good but I'm a little aprehensive now. Was Tim Reynolds playing electric guitar at the show? Did they even have another guitar player other than Dave? Lots of electric on the new album.

Cyn....I'll be seeing DMB in Raleigh, NC this weekend. Would love to have made the Charlottesville show but had to work then. It's about 2 hours for me either way (Raleigh or Charlottesville). Just hope we get a good show!

Name: Howard
...

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 09:49:58
Comments:

Interesting to gather all the clues for the 2nd Arr. Difficult to make a water-tight case either way, but some extra thoughts:

The original may have been 3/4 erased (though the quote from Metal Leg suggests that 2 minutes of the track was left) - BUT, the full-band, full-length with-backing-vocals version could have been taken from a safety copy of the original, or it might have been a rough mix taken home at an earlier stage by an engineer.

True, there are no horns on this version, but there are none on the shorter intro clip either. Let's imagine the full-length clip was from a rough mix done by an engineer. This could have been taken before the horns were added and before the accident, so this still could be the orginal.

The drum-machine clue is interesting. I have to admit, I find it hard to make 100% sure distinctions between Wendelised drummers ("drum machine") and unedited real drummers. I wouldn't like to choose the original from the remake on the basis of Wendel versus plain human drums.

If we can get more info on that short intro clip, or get a longer version of it, that would really help!

Howard

Name: DaddyG
There - that only took a half hour...

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 09:30:49
Comments:

Dan o - see that's what I am talking about - basic skills you learn in Kindergarden

wormy - great artists throw away things the public might enjoy all the time, for various reasons. before Brahms died, he burned about 60 works that he had either never been published, or not quite finished - he said they were not publishable. It is truly a horrific thought because he actuaally thought that of ALL his music. What masterpieces ended up as ash? We will never know. ( sigh )

oxen are free...

DG

Name: Aussie
@work
Location: New York, NY USA
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 09:23:09
Comments:

LadyBaySide: Your status as Governess in the DOMC shall be maintained in perpetuity. It is so decreed. Sorry to hear about your loss...my pleasure to make inquiries here and at my alma mater...advise.

Blaise: No worries. Thanks for clarity.

From winter to summer here in the City. wowowowow.

Aus

Name: Lady Bayside
@work, but not for long.....
Location: NYC,
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 09:14:20
Comments:

Well, folks...what a day. I got laid off today. Wish I was posting something else, but...that's it.

I'm attempting to get packed up and get out of here.

I will be in chat, will be visiting the GB, of course, and you can reach me at either KBleak@yahoo.com or ladybayside@hotmail.com

Happy Birthday, David! I hope you have a better day than I...!

I keep reminding myself that everything happens for a reason..this could be a fabulous new opportunity for me.

I was going to leave my job and follow the Dan this summer, but..

hell, they're not touring!

Talk to some of you soon,

Lady B

Name: Blaise


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 08:42:50
Comments:

Howard et al - "This is indeed a bootleg recording from the Gaucho sessions. It includes "The Second Arrangement" wich was accidentally erased, when an assistant engineer should prepare the tape for listening. For unknown reasons he thought he was at the tail header instead of the beginning when he put all 24 channels on "record". When he discovered his mistake, three quarters of the tune was already erased. Finally replaced by "Third World Man" on the "Gaucho" album."
(source; The Steely Dan biography "Reelin’ in the Years" by Brian Sweet).

http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_gaucho_outtakes.htm#SecondArrangement

3/4 erased? Doesn't sound like the "full band" lenghtier version. And that short clip was not a stripped-down arrangement but also involved a full band, as far as my ears can tell anyway.

Name: luckless pedestrian
who makes the morning fabulous?

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 08:26:30
Comments:

great chat for a few with david, dif and a newbie, possibly to be named spider queen, coming soon to a theater near you....oh, and, dif wants to go to chicago in september GE

microsoft outlook is on the outs so no incoming or outgoing email for me today - got your e GE and responded but not sure if it made it out before the shut down, i need to clean out my computer, it's a mess!

funky test i sent to the distribution list today - have fun with it - i am happy to say love and family were 1 and 2 respectively, phew, but of course pride was third and career fourth (duh) - lol - my coffee is wonderful and the sea is soothing, and the rats are dirty too and alas, my hubby is red, another sigh of relief - let me know how you did here or let me know if you want it sent to you.....or not.

see you all tomorrow

Name: Blaise
something I can dance to

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 08:19:19
Comments:

Hans Verlouw's database show two "releases" holding said song:

http://212.120.92.40/SteelyDanDatabaseScripts/releaseinfo.asp?id=67#top

http://212.120.92.40/SteelyDanDatabaseScripts/releaseinfo.asp?id=288#top

Stil have no idea where that short clip was taken from. I remember e-mailing the owner of the angelfire website to no avail. Frustrating stuff.

Name: Blaise
it's just the routine politics of jealousy

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 07:53:40
Comments:

Second Arrangement rare CD is found here among other rare releases. Now if anyone can translate its japanese description...

http://www.geocities.co.jp/MusicStar/6433/rare.html

Aus - Needless to say, mentioning anyone by name for example purposes was a terrible faux pas on my part. The original context of this utterance shows that I already was moving back one square regarding such a bold statement.

My sincere apologies.

Now back to my regular obsessive-compulsive online behavior...

Name: Hank
again

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 07:31:44
Comments:

FlaDavid: Happy birthday, enjoy the day. And many more...

Stranger: Yup, still lurking from time to time. Some days it's harder to catch up than others.

ole: Uh-oh! Your page is a victim of its own popularity...

Name: guest5
is in chat

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 07:16:54
Comments:

not doing....?

Name: YGK
..

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 07:12:04
Comments:

Yo, cat - Happy Birfday, FloriDavid!
Many, many more....enjoy the gig....
ygk

Name: Floridavid
46@years

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 07:03:43
Comments:

Celebrating my Birthday today by playing for someone elses Birthday Party. Only he's 80 years old.The Younger Family members hired me.What does it all mean? D

Name: fezo
latitudethis

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 07:00:37
Comments:

almost forgot . . . Charlottesville is about 80 miles from the western border of the state, 180 from the eastern, so a more likely candidate for Central Virginia status is Short Pump.

Name: wormy
topsoilantries r us

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 07:00:23
Comments:

hey gang

jazzfest countdown to this weekend
just a few of us but we will have a great time regardless
Zeke, Earthbound(anyone else) give us a shout (bergeon@shellus.com)
we were looking to meet up saturday night

Aussie - welcome back from the Parisian climes
sounds like a nice escape

Cara & Gina - I met Tuck and Patty after a show a few years ago
talk about gracious hosts

with the Second Arrangement, one wonders what other jewels were erased without a trace from recording boards

you also have to wonder if 2nd Arr will ever see the light of day on a legit release, seems the Citizen box was the opportune time to have dusted off or rerecorded it

Imagine a copy of any Dan album in CD Rom form where you can punch in and select the various backing musicians, alternative solos and such. I'd like to hear Potter have a go with some of the older material myself

verm tom

Name: "dano"
Help me I"ve lost it??

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 06:49:55
Comments:

TWM, Have you heard this morning they"ve had a new sighting of the Loch Ness Monster,apparently they put a basket of ferocious eels (I Said eels) down the bottom of the Loch and Have had a glimpse?? This is True??

What we said in chat the other night is true , I always listen to Aja when I am on the computer,that is wierd shit??

eLLe, was that Helena Christianson that Chris is a lucky basta??

So i buy a new bike for the summer, and its hoofin it over here and you Noo Yawkers are going about half nakid in the mid nineties , watch for the Lady B in that T Shirt(hubba hubba), Aus YGK In shorts whoa !! get me outta here i"m feeling iffy.

Cyn , that horse has pulled out hurt his ankle , will have to go to Kentucky next year now??

Cara Mia , Is that the same Howard Jones who did "What Is Love Anyway"??

Dr Mu, Lisa G, and all, I was brought up in Glasgow in the 60s, and my parents always said it doesnt matter what school you go to as long as you have a bar of soap and you were taught to respect your elders, you had all the love you need , and to this day I still believe that if I bring up my family to have respect for people they will get respect back.
Bring your kids up with love and they will have a great and happy life.
Sorry got into one there.

They call it daaaaaaano"s blues.

Name: fezo
downbytheriver

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 06:31:44
Comments:

Jim: it's true. Neil and Crazy Horse did open up for DMB in Charlottesville last Saturday. they were preceded to the stage by "soulive" the group I posted about yesterday. Neil rocked, Dave unfortunately did not. No extended jams, jazz influence down played. I think he's sold his soul to the Glen Ballards of the world.

cruiser: i hope you catch a better show down in Raleigh

Dr Mu: i think I understand the reason for your occassional conservative rants. by your pic, it appears that you've received a head transplant from the late, great Republican fire breather, Lee Atwater.

Name: lp
the geography police lost their map
Location: wandering aimlessly, looking for the planning office
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 06:20:07
Comments:

dr mu, LG and others who got into the voucher discussion - this chat is not over, not for a mile - your posts fueled the discussion very well; but we shouldn't take it up here, it's disturbing the second arrangement discussion, besides, it will be much better over a beer and nachos, what, shall we say, Green Earring, let them come with us to Chicago maybe?

nice chatting with you, aus, yesterday, thanks for the advice, and i was bustin on the perfume (barcelona, huh? very nice) - and, it was fun listening in to cyn and jim, you guys rule!

and a happy tuesday to you too pooh.....

Name: angel
Here comes that noise again

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 06:15:55
Comments:

First off. Oleander, your web page has reached it's limit for the month. This according to earthlink. Must be all our recent talk about SD music. :-)

Blaise: Thanks for letting me know your son's name. He looks alot like you, by the way.

2nd Arrangement gets more and more interesting. Good research all, though I bet Pete could have told us, if we had asked him. :-)

The Arbitrator: True words on how we come and go from this world. Makes you realize what is important in this life. :-)

Aussie: Glad you are getting back in the groove. Spain, soon? Wow!

Good day all....

Another scrambled message from my last best friend....

Name: National Geographic
Va.office

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 06:00:41
Comments:

No Cyn you´re not right. Charlottesville is in Central Va. and on the foot to Blue Ridge Mountain's.

Name: Aussie
@work
Location: New York, NY USA
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 05:42:21
Comments:

I notised on My Yahoo! this morning under the new releases of music section: Coming April 24, 2001, Walter Becker and Donald Fagan. [Yes, Mr. Fagen's family name was misspelled...!!]The tracks listed were as following: 1. Come Back Baby. 2. Brain Tap Shuffle. 3. Brooklyn.

As of the time of this posting there were five comments by others. Three of which came from one person decrying this "new release" as nothing of the sort. Attacking this as an unauthorised release of old stuff that was low grade to begin with and then pointing out the glaring typo of Mr. Fagen's surname on the product.

CaraMiaMarsha: I'm sorry but can you eblast me those requests anew? Was it the email concerning a certain person's concern with privacy on the 'net??? It's been quite hectic here lately.

Chere: I searched high and low in Parisian Pharmacies for your Radox product. Each time I was ridiculed for not even knowing what it was. Neither of the half dozen inquiries I made were productive. I did, however, pick up some killer insense for you to burn in honour of the deities and juju spiritos...keep eyeballs peeled for snail mail parcel with goodies.

Very nice. And heartfelt thank yous for those denizens who welcomed your faithful narrator back. I never take that stuff for granted. Ever.

YGK: Sorry about not being able to make drinks last night....give me colour on Friday night's gig in Albany and perhaps we can sneak a few in before then.

NMN: VERY nice photos of the familia. You got good genes brother. Thanks for sharing those. I can reciprocate by blasting you a few shots of Babes and I in Paris...let me know.

LadyBaySide: Glad to hear you had fun in the sun in the city. You deserve every ounce of pleasure you can get your hands on.

LuckLessPedestrian: I will pick up your fansy perfume when we hop on a jet to Barcelona...coming soon. I got your GB posting too late.

Topsoilant wunder-worm and Aja: Eager to hear all the sordid details from Jazz fest in New Orleans....

St. Al: Nice job with the picture gallery....Thank you.

J-Dubs: When you make it here, I've got a box of Montecristo numbre two's I brought back from Paris. We'll smoke those and have a few whiskeys....also: RADICAL skate shot! I love it. Brings back memories....Gullwing trucks, DogTown Boards, Kryptonic wheels...those days are gone forever...Thanks again for your kindness. It'll come back to you in spades.

Blaise: Interesting insights. Quiet man in the corner to omnipresence in technicolour...we gotta talk.

LisaG and DaddyG: DOMC meeting pending this week. Will alert via email.

Cyn: Cute equestrian bar none. Leg UP!

where are BlacksGirl and MASTER??

Aussie

Name: The Truth
?

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 05:41:50
Comments:

Lo & Angel- Pete and Clas dancing? You make it seem like they have some type of on going grudge against each other. Funny, but I've never seen Pete come on here one time bashing or bad mouthing Clas. Just the other way around. Maybe Clas should be dancing by himself.

Name: Blaise
getting a clue from the Immortal

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 05:37:32
Comments:

Howard - "We used a drum machine to redo it, depending on which version you have, but there were horns on the original song." Ha!

That would mean the short clip is the original since I'm convinced it uses a live drummer while the lenghtier clip does not have horns and the drums fills are generic and it sounds like a drum machine was used.
Interesting indeed.
So far, I think the short clip is the original erased one.

Name: Howard
curiouser and curiouser ...

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 05:16:28
Comments:

Excerpt from Roger Nichols interview, Metal Leg 10:

What's the story behind the infamous erased track from Gaucho? Was it called The Second Arrangement?

Yeah, that's it. We tried to re-record it but it never was as good the second time around. But we did a couple versions and did one especially for Gary Katz. We used a drum machine to redo it, depending on which version you have, but there were horns on the original song. There were two versions done, and I've heard one that utilizes separate parts edited together to make the song complete.

Name: Howard
collecting clues ...

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 05:10:12
Comments:

This from the 3rd issue of Metal leg:

"First, the good news: a cassette exists of Gaucho outtakes -- it contains slightly different versions of Babylon Sisters, Glamour Profession and Gaucho, plus a previously unreleased song called The Second Arrangement. The bad news, unfortunately, is that it's less than two minutes long and cuts out suddenly in the middle. I suppose this is the infamous track which was inadvertantly erased by a tired engineer. It's a great shame because The Second Arrangement has a really catchy guitar intro and Donald's singing on it is as good as ever."

Mention of the guitar intro suggests the short drums-keyboards-bass clip is the remake perhaps?

Howard

Name: Howard
@lunch

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 05:00:49
Comments:

Love that "Year of the 2nd arrangement" post!

Commodian: do you have the URL of that Metal Leg interview about the 2nd Arr.? I'm still convinced the full-length clip (with vocals + backing vocals etc) is the version that was wiped, but I'm interested to discuss and find out more. Did you mean that the style of the drummer in the full-length clip was what gave you the hint that the full-length clip was the remake?

My main reasons for thinking the full-length version (with guitar hook + backing vox) is the original that was wiped are:

* It's about 95% complete - if they didn't like the sound of the remake, would they have bothered to record lead guitar fills and backing vocals etc?

* Sound quality - the short intro clip is much better quality than the full-length version. The remake is still sitting on a tape somewhere, so is easier to get hold of at good quality. The wiped version obviously is not still around, so it's maybe not suprising the quality (from a safety copy?) is poorer.

* Groove - the full-length version, to me anyway, is way better than the short intro clip.

It would be great to find out where the shorter intro clip comes from. Is there a full-length version around? The file is on John Granatino's site, so maybe he has more info?

Howard

Name: The Arbitrator
anywhere.USA@spidersweb

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 05:00:04
Comments:

Reloading......crap, more target practice needed on my part I guess, missed those felines, how could I with them making such HUGE asses outta themselves?
History 101, don't need it, been there, done that, ancient history - trying to figure its relevance to SD.

Jim, LB, ed, et.al. in chat...you guys are so cool, really enjoy talking with you, my stream of conciousness tends to read like a bad acid trip, but if it gives you a laugh or two then I have achieved a small victory.

eLLe: all true artists are misunderstood as their minds do not follow the rules of convention, and they wouldn't stoop to argue asinine points.

Michael McDonald rocks, wether live or taped. Did I hear someone say he did a piece with SD? Where can I get a copy, if anyone was astute enough to make one?
How about a duo with B. Raitt and Michael? That would be worth hearing.

We are all brothers and sisters here, have the same entrance into this world and will take the same exit, leaving with exactly what we came in with....nothing. Our friends will be our living testament, not our families..we didn't choose them, nor they us.

A free mind once said, "I like you, tho I may not like your actions".

Name: Cyntillating


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 03:57:24
Comments:

And you gonna have a hard time competing with rave reviews like this:

"I've never experienced anything like it, I'm serious."

This Girl knows what's goooooooooood.

Name: Cyncopulated


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 03:43:14
Comments:

Hey eLLe baby, this old broad digs you: that took a bit of work at this hour! You just can't get shit like this out of yer hair. No wonder it's so dirty.

Name: Cyn
Mi Cara es tu Cara.....

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 03:36:26
Comments:

Cara Mia...if you were refering to my little screaming fit at Cruiser and Jim, Sorry, I was having a moment....lol! I'm sure you know where Montreal is...so that woundn't be the source of your geography Question. Charlottesville and Chingcoteague are both in Virginia. Charlottesville is in Western Va..(am I right guys?)Beautiful, in the mountains,(they looked like moutains to me, can't get any flatter that where I live)Historic,Great shopping....etc. Chingcoteague is about 1 hours drive from me, on the Maryland, Virginia, Delaware peninsula. Made famous by Margaret Henry's "Misty of Chingcoteague"..Known for the wild ponies and there auction there every year. They swim the herd over from Asseateague Island and auction off the foals to keep the herd down. Theres only so much food on the island for them.
Its become famous around the world and has even had bidders from Japan.
Jim and his group, Me and my group hope to meet there in Oct. for the Oyster festival. Thats if Jim makes it thru the Marsh....

I hope that answers your question,
have a Cara Mia Day!

Cyn

Name: adrift
and going down...down...down...

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 03:36:01
Comments:

Where's that Diver Dan when we need him?

bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble

***glurb***glurb***glurb

hghuuughhhh, hghuuuughhh, hghuuuughhh

Name: Cynbiosis


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 03:35:33
Comments:

See how much you and She have in common!!!!?

Name: Blaise


Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 03:31:52
Comments:

cara mia, LG, eLLe (women) - Hold me now... grew up with my older sister playing Brother to Brother and others constantly in our house. About a year or two ago, Gino Vanelli served the local jazfest crowd a selection of his hits full with new jazzed up arrangements featuring the best of the local session players such s most of the Uzeb, a polpular jazz fusion crew. This concert became a regular filler for a national TV network that bought the rights to it. Next time it plays, I'll tape it 'cause I thought it was that good. Saw it a couple of times, actually.

angel - Justin is a giant year and a half old baby. And this picture doesn't do justice to his true angelic nature at all.

Mu - I think I catch your drift on the Nightfly similitudes on that particular version of 2ndA. It hits you when the groove for the first verse start, just before it fades away. Donald might have taken inspiration from it to write Nightfly. Interesting take.

And Commodian presents an interesting theory about the short clip being the erased version. It would explain why we can't find the rest of it. This vould be it. There might be nothing to be found after all.
later

Name: Cyn
Hey, it that the Titanic...?????

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 03:18:15
Comments:

Did anyone see a rabid little Terrior run thru here? Frothing at the mouth and in need of a good hair weave? Who says hoof(foot) and mouth can't be transfered to humans?

My mother is turning in her grave due to me sinking to her level......Again.

Man the lifeboats! Shes sinking guys!

Cyn

Name: Gina
From strange to (the) Stranger

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 02:12:57
Comments:

howdy Stranger ..
this place not so bad, have the Chicago dame take care of some background music and make it a Barbered drift on a Banyan Breeze. edit out all while scroll-reading that sounds too contemptorary -for the fun of this word only ofcourse- and take the You Don't Know Me to settle in its warmest Banyan Moods.
there you have a suggestion to a recipe that will make your stay here as comfy as it used to be or not.
you never came to clean out the fridge, did ya, you usually made your entrance showing courtesy to those present and added a Danned melody in the Punk-a-Boo-Boo Jive, which was designed to be the highlight of entertainment, right?

Nawlins Jazzfest.
sigh.

Cara Mia, i took some pics at the end, loved the part where they take eachothers hands and leave stage so cosy, having fun because the audience showed appreciation. the minute they came on stage, you could see the warm and sincere nature of Patti and as soon as she started to sing, you could hear a pin drop if one had the nerve to do so. Tuck talked some to us when Patti went backstage for a few minutes and he played us some of their most recent album. he sure is funny and has this self-mockery way that makes him a stand-up-comedian as well, his smile btw when Patti is doing her rhythmbox thang priceless. it's a cosy theater where they performed, so all ingredients at hand to make it a nice nice experience for both artists and audience.

off again,
Banyan Tree Nawlins Swirl for Aja Bow,
G.

Name: DaddyG
WOW - THAT took a long time

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 19101 at 00:29:30
Comments:

Remind me never to skip a few days...

Angel - Mr Dick Cavett starring in that Fab show! Yes!

Aus - welcome back! Let the DOMC meet with bread that is liquid.

Mu - re: education - what my wife said plus: I firmly believe that most of our problems in sociey come from a lack of basic skills - skills that could be taught in our formative years ( K - 8 ), but are made secondary to INFORMATION. It's all backwards - INFO is important, but can not be truly understood without these basic skills. Actually, I am really echoing what Lisa said. In practical terms: if our schools were good in the first place, why have vouchers? A stop gap measure? ( I think that is what you were alluding to. ) I think that it will do more harm than good.

re: Art - I think great art is by it's nature, ambiguous -unfortunately, this leaves a grey area as wide as the Grand Canyon. A lot of people thought that John Cage was a fake. I don't listen to his music ( or nonmusic as the case may be ), but I understand what he was saying: It is all hard to catagorize because of it's implicit ambiguity.

eLLe - as Lisa said - went to Banff too for several months on a string quartet binge. MUCH better than the Jailyard!

Clas - re: Israel and Paletina - I don't know - ignoring history seems repressive - why can't we all just realize that we are brothers and sisters and live together?

That'l teach me...

Dinner Guest

Name: TheStranger
Oh yeah

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 23:00:47
Comments:

Hank Silvers,
You still here too? Man, we may all get buried in this guestbook.

Name: TheStranger
Reality vs. Bullshit

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 22:57:06
Comments:

Clas,
Your summary of Israel's history is fairly decent coming from a Scandinavian Marxist-leaning type, because the left all over the world has come to favor the anti-democratic, utterly corrupt Palestinian leadership. Some important points almost no one seems to know or care about:

1. Yeah, about half a million Arabs fled Israel during and immediately after the War for Independence. But a half million Jews were thrown out of Arab lands at the same time. They left with nothing but their suitcases. And they were expelled. when 99.8% of a population goes, as happened in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Morocco, etc., you know they didn't all leave voluntarily.

2. Israel accepted its Jewish refugees. The Arabs never accepted theirs. They are banned from the better schools and professions and usually from citizenship all over the Arab world. And of course they have no meaningful votes because the only Arabs who can vote in legitimate elections are Arabs who don't live in Arab countries.

3. An overwhelming majority of people who call themselves Palestinians drifted into Israel after Zionist Jews moved to the land during the 20th century. It was ruled by Britain and before that by Turkey and there were really no borders to speak of. Arabs drifted into Israel because the Jews created an economy there. But then our lovely British friends cut off almost all Jewish immigration to Palestine just as Hitler started throwing Jews into camps.

4. You can go back just a few decades, to 1967, when East Jerusalem was ruled by Jordan, and you will find Arabs barely mentioned the place. Jordan didn't bother to make it the capital. Jerusalem was a pisshole and they didn't give a damn about it.

5. Jerusalem is called a holy city by Moslems, but that's not in their Koran. It's not mentioned there. There is a legend that Mohammed floated off to heaven on a white horse from Jerusalem on precisely the spot where Israel's two ancient temples used to be. Those temples aren't a rumor. They are archological fact. The white horse legend started hundreds of years after Mohammed's death. he never came within a thousand miles of Jerusalem. How many cities can a religion call holy? they have Mecca and Medina now. If they suddenly called Philadelphia holy would we have to hand it over to them?

6. As for recent history, we all saw it. Barak handed Arafat the farm and he wouldn't take it. Palestinians don't want just Palestine. They want Israel.

7. Israel is 18% Arab. That's israel proper. Jews don't riot because Arabs live there. Israel's Arabs vote, get national health insurance, welfare, free schooling. But Arabs can't stand to have 100 Jews in Hebron. How come Arabs can live in Israel but Jews can't live in Arab lands?

Name: angel
Who steps out with no regrets

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 22:26:08
Comments:

Wow, late post for me. I finally got it Ducky! Wahoo! But it took quite a bit of time to read. So Stevedan, it takes 2 days longer for the mail to get to me. Can I have your postman? :-)

Lo: Don't we all wish.... Love the image of Clas and Pete dancing. :-)

Blaise: Great picture of you and your young one. :-)
If it is not considered out of bounds, how old is your child?
BTW, great article from last year. Since I did not see this part of the SD empire until August, I missed it the first time around. Quite extensive quotes from D & W. The interviewer seemed to know his stuff, too. Always brings out the best in the boys. :-)

YGK: You moved?

KD: I have never seen you trying for the most posts award before. You won't win, but to have a guy in the running is quite a honor..... LOL

LP/Mu/Lisa G: Vouchers. Tough subject and never one to be solved easily. I have been on both sides of the public/private school fence. On the one hand, the private school had to charge for everything. Bailouts just don't occur at them. On the other hand, the public school has much more in the way of materials for instruction, but the PTA has to fundraise to purchase such things as the photocopy machine and playground equipment. Excuse me, I thought those 2 big ticket items are considered essential. I do find that children at public school get much more help when they have learning disabilities, etc. Private schools seem more into pushing children into higher grade levels, so that parents feel they are giving their child every advantage. Of course they do that to justify the fee parents have to pay to keep them in the private school.
My take.

Wormy: Glad you came up for air again. Please, you and all that attend the Jazzfest, do post. We love hearing about good music, no matter who plays it.

By the way, I was listening to Night by Night several times today while working and figured out where the Vegas life comment comes from. It is a misheard lyric of mine. I hear the line as
"Its a vegas life said the queen of spades" Oh well, at least I know better now. :-)

Night all....

A sparkling conscience, a new address.

Name: DrMu


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 22:21:52
Comments:

Commodian: Kudos on your research. That shuffle at the beginning of the wav file. First I thought it was Porcaro, then Gadd was suggested...but it *does* have the flavor of Ed Greene's shuffles on I Got the News. I believe you've struck gold.

Only (if you could read - but thanks for playing): Clinton gets credit for lack of domestic oil, alternative (fuel cells), foreign oil, natural gas policies as well as ignoring supply and demand, but not for a faulty rain dance. Lack of support after the disaster is another matter.

Trace element trivia: Did you know that the level of arsenic in Coke (as in the cola Mr. Fagen sips) is many times higher than the safe water standard used for 7.99 years of the Clinton administration? (I'm not kidding - my wife measured these years ago in grad. school)

Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 21:15:15
Comments:

em- what's up with that wack harpsichord patch you keep using? Just because Drew is from CA, doesn't mean you have to party like it's 1993.

Name: cara mia
running from the geography police

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 21:14:42
Comments:

Cyn...help...(gulp)... ;-)

Name: Commodian
2nd Arrangement

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 21:01:48
Comments:

I recall in an interview from one of the old Metal Leg issues one of the original 2nd Arr session musicians didn't understand why D and W re-recorded the track with a different rhythm section from the erased version. The replacement session had Hiram Bullack (sp?) and Will Lee, where the original had Ed Greene and I forgot who the bass player was. I'll check.
But based on the interview, the full length version with vocals is the rejected, re-cut version, which indicates the mystery file might be a fragment of the original.

Surely more than the fragment must exist in someones' collection, hmmmm?

Name: Only a MU
could blame

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:46:04
Comments:

Clinton for a drought, the "so-called" energy crisis, (funny, the oil companies are making enough Money to give President Cheney 36 million or so as a bonus)and for Texas being in the red with the GOP in control of the State House and the Legislature. If it wasn't so sad it would almost be funny.

Name: eLLe
em....

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:45:13
Comments:

Montreal, a city in the Province of Quebec.

peace *out*

Name: pals


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:42:21
Comments:

in chat 8:40 PM St Al Time ( I think that is 11:40 East Coast Time)

Name: cara me again
answer lady

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:40:18
Comments:

Gino is from Montreal.

Name: cara mia
correction

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:39:05
Comments:

"excitedly"

Name: eLLe
COWARDS

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:36:59
Comments:

Lisa- I'm so glad you said it. MAN!!! I've never experienced anything like it, I'm serious. The anon. cowards are totally pathetic.
Now I'm off to get settled in to catch Dweezil Zappa on the Chris Isaac show, in a half an hour.
later
: )

Name: cara mia
when I think about those nights in Montreal@West of DollyWood...

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:35:44
Comments:

Ah, Gino...

I know, I know!!!!!

He is alive and well and still gorgeous after all these years, minus the long locks. Lisa, if you want I will send you a visual of "our regards" when I greeted him again in Nashville July of '98 at a benefit for VH-1's "Save the Music" program, speaking of supporting public schools. He and another music/heart throb O'mine from the mid and late 70's, David Pack of Ambrosia, appeared and performed that SAME NIGHT and greeted fans, offered their wonderful memorabilia at auction to us, and I scarfed Pack's lyric sheet "You're the Biggest Part of Me". Also saw Skunk Baxter there as part of the support musicians for the headliners, to give a Dan spin on this.

Gino still tours, releases CD's and has a nice website that used to have very active membership when he last did a multi-city tour in '97.

Aus--welcome back. Get over your jet lag and search for my email from 2 weeks ago, with a couple of requests. I know you are not ignoring me, mon ami.

LBayside--we will connect. I have to look at my short weekend up there and let you know. Was hoping for that Thurs the 10th or Friday to collectively get with everyone. If NMN comes in for the Jonatha show, try to make it to a little DOCC, or whatever you call it, that Thursday with us, please?

I am now doing a multi-day listen to The Nightfly, after hearing Howard Jones' cover of IGY. I still love HJ's own pop tunes. He did justice to Donald's I think.

The "sky" is mentioned in several songs of Nightfly. I think I will search Ole's site and see if this is discussed. Looking up to the sky...hope? coming out from sadness?
Too simplistic? Sorry...

feeling nostalgic,
cara mia (who won't subject myself to the "collective GB groan" as I excited tell Gina that I know Tuck and Patti also...have their autographs, their loving, sweet messages, and PHOTOS too)

Name: Commodian
Donald on CP WoH solo

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:35:40
Comments:

Donald: On 'West of Hollywood' we had a solo section that we wanted Chris Potter to play on saxophone. But it turned out to be a guitar solo. But during the course of the day when he came in, he said, "Let me take a shot at the tag," which he had heard, and he tried it... and actually I think he said, "Let me take this home for a couple of days and look at it," because it was quite complex. Then he came in a couple of days later and just did a couple of takes. We didn't actually plan on having a saxophone solo there. We had the chord progression; at one point it was just going to be something almost baroque-sounding. But he played it so well that we realized that we should keep it. It was completely improvisational.

Name: DrMu


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:32:48
Comments:

Under a voucher plan, the unsuccessful public schools qualify, not the spoiled, lazy, middle to upper class neighborhoods. Tax sharing could be provided across districts leveling the playing field. You may be shocked but W proposed that here in Texas while lowering some of the overall tax burden. Funding would have increased dramatically in the poorer school districts. But our legislature fucked up and passed only the tax cut without restructuring the tax code as proposed. Then thanks to Clinton, energy costs hit the roof, and a drought devastating many of the farmers, leaving the state to pick up the bill, while FEMA and Al Gore pretended to fly again to Texas. Now the state is in the red. I have even less confidence in the Feds to enact an actual plan even if spoon-fed, much less come up with one with a semblance of thought on their own instead of the usually irrational hysteria...

My biggest beef with W is not traveling to Cincinnati to begin a dialogue between the Police force and the black community. That's one of the few things an executive officer should do, Fed or not. If a plant had major disruptive problems, should the CEO at least take a walk-around?

my apologies again for this bandwidth black hole.

Edd: that's a cool pic. Great jawline...

Name: eLLe
???

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:24:53
Comments:

Lisa- I don't know. Maybe Blaise would know since Gino was from Quebec, as lars was saying. I'd like to know too.
Have you heard of Mae Moore from Victoria/Vancouver Island Canada? She didn't make out very well on the US charts as did Vanelli. Her song Living in Bohemia is one of my all time favs.
One verse captures the essence of the city of Vancouver.
imo.
-Late afternoon is the time of dream
I like to listen to Coltranes' Love Supreme
then I leave my rented room and walk
through the fading light and the streets that talk
I always meet someone I could call friend
prejudice is something we can transcend..
coming to this world with the power of love
not the love of power
I feel it
: )

Name: DrMu
ready,set,scroll

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:13:09
Comments:

LG: That's the ONLY beauty about Fed money - strings attached. NO segregated schools funded. Believe me, I know that trick growing up in the South. THOSE schools usualy had less than qualified teachers, though fewer "social distractions." Vouchers are not THE answer, but part of a larger solution. In my mind they should be part of a continuing empowerment zone model first articulated by Jack Kemp and a mechanism that Bill Clinton was interested in (for a while - the guy had more incomplete projects than W&D do songs in hiding in the can).

Indeed, tuition increases greater than inflation or faculty salary have been a quandary. Some states like Texas have taken on a pay in advance savings system that is tax deferred (and exempt if activated for the student). The tuition problem compounded with low expectations, and simply handling social problems has led to a 2-tier student system that is more distinct than ever IMHO. For example, students at the typical 4 (5 nowadays) year college curriculum are inferior in preparation and attitude than they were 20 years ago. However, at many private Universities and a few flagship state institutions, the students are superior in preparation and organization (they are at my old school) especially in the sciences. Baby Boom 2 should eliminate the current "shortfall" in students which may lessen the stress.

What are the ingredients of the successful institutions?

1) Large Private Funding/Booster Campaigns (this could translate to cities and neighborhoods - capital campaigns that spent 1/4 of the time targeting the better schools rather than the largest sports arenas... Promoting pride in academics and scholarship among the masses is a daunting task, but, for example, the University of Florida has done just that as I learned on a recent visit...

2) Productive, well-paid faculty. Tenure and post-tenure review are sometimes unpleasant and stressful and imperfect, but they are generally successful overall.

3) Additional fund-raising by faculty and Foundation run by business-types. A limited higher administration run by faculty with the pencil geeks out of administration raising $$ and making sure the lawn is mowed where they belong rather than BSing over 3 martini lunches

3) Supportive funds from Governments and school administration targeting infrastructure as well as research and development

4) Diversity of the student population without sacrificing quality

5) Student support and work/study based on need (a national Peace Corps has been suggested - a good idea)

6) Pooling resources into success - the "critical mass" model

7) Expectance of more productivity and independence from students: "look it up, and try the library next time"

8) Sabbaticals, time to retool, etc. for faculty

These observations can at least in part be translated to the primary and secondary level.

The problems with expectations fortunately were years ago now, but one or two really bad years can knock one back 5-6.

Name: LG
speaking of real Gentlemen...

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:08:51
Comments:

Where has Gentleman Loser gone to. I haven't seen him on here since last fall. Disappeared of the planet, it seems. And Dr. Pepper seems to have withdrawn, too.

Well, the Top Soy Lent one has resurfaced, always good news. And leave it to a musical conundrum to bring our Howard back from vacation-hope you had a lovely holiday, H. You were missed.

DOMC-welcome back, Chairman and Gov'nuh. ALL-check your e's at work.

Lady B-info. forthcoming on Sunday's concert. I'll let "Big Daddy" fill you in.

ElGae

Name: Elle Gee


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 20:00:30
Comments:

Hey eLLe-I got a touch of Gino Vanelli in his post, too. Whatever happened to him? He had a lot of potential.

Name: Lisa G
You my dear get an F

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 19:59:06
Comments:

A Gentleman's D? Pardonez-moi? You've made an ASSumption that since Donald Fagen partied in college (a fact you may never really know for real unless you were actually there), that all people who party in college turn out to be geniuses like him. Let's start with you...uh...no.

Why do I even bother answering anonymous cowards, anyway when I should ignore, ignore...

Name:


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 19:34:28
Comments:

There ya go.

Name: eLLe
?

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 19:28:55
Comments:

MNM- now you've piqued my curiosity, me and KD? say what?

Name: eLLe
re:Waxing and raining

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 19:21:09
Comments:

it's a new moon tonight hun //heheeee..... nice read Lisa G.
nuff respect going out to teachers who give a shit!!!
eLLe

Name: A Gentleman's D


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 19:11:57
Comments:

"How many people party through college now, too, wasting their time and money?"

At least one did... "D" ("F" for effort, "C" for cunt)

Name: eLLe
what will it be -some soothing herb tea

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 19:08:28
Comments:

Lars- sneaky! I caught that Gino Vanelli plug : )
Blaise are you talking about the Guns N Roses/ Metallica riot?
; )
I found out Claptunes isn't coming until August 7, but I'm going to try and rangle me up some tix,tomorrow if at all possible, going with the scalpers on-line isn't going to cut it me thinks LOL... from here at the "compound" that is if I can get my mind of my wealth, beauty and "entire set" and all my fabulous friends, long enough to do so.
Btw, hahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa find a better hairstylist doll, you look a little tacky in that pic.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz there goes that sewing machine again.
eLLe

that's right, a tweak or 2, then she's ouTTa here

Name: Lisa G
waxing and raining

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 19:01:11
Comments:

Gina-thanks for the 'view. *sigh* with I had been there to see/hear T and P.

lp-who said private schools work? If I could choose my raw material (i.e. students), I'd be setting the highest standards possible all over the place. But I can't. I have to take the students that are given to me, for better or worse. That’s my professional challenge. I haven't seen any evidence showing that, pitted against public schools, private schools are any better. Better at what? It's like comparing apples to oranges--too many variables.

You bring up an interesting point about frustrated college professors, though. Many years ago, as recent as my father's generation, it was an honor, a privilege to go to college. Colleges and universities did not accept just anybody. But the almighty dollar has forced many post-secondary schools to lower their acceptance standards and therefore admit less talented students to keep their strong bottom line intact. How many people party through college now, too, wasting their time and money? Too many kids get through school just passing to maintain that lifestyle--it's no secret. It's a given that more students of lesser caliber and with lesser standards are being accepted. It's not that students aren't getting educated prior to college. It's that more of the less talented students are being wooed into academic situations under a blanket of lower standards.

Also lot of colleges and universities do not hire real educators--they hire experts, scholars in a particular field, but not everybody who knows a subject knows how to teach it. Last night I went through some old college papers, and thought, “What the hell did I learn there?” I had some pretty bad teachers for professors. And as a life-long student of education, I can see even in their comments on my papers, just how little they knew about effective teaching. This was just feedback, which is an important teaching tool. And a lot of these egg-heads didn’t know the first thing about it. Forget about active participation where the learner is involved. They had no clue, and sadly, some of these people were education professors.

Mu-It’s terrible that you were defiled for wanting to set the highest of standards in education.
But I don't see vouchers solving any problems for education. So many people are under the impression that the government can provide enough funding to "poor folk" so that they can attend their favorite segregated school. Sorry, some people can avoid the rest of the world by living in their cozy little neighborhoods away from the riff-raff because they have the money to do so, but I don't see that a lot of financially burdened families would be getting the amount of aid they need to pay for an expensive and exclusive education. I just see the middle class leaving public schools to the less-fortunate--which eventually leaves the schools to rot due to lack of enrollment.

And just who is accountable for what? Who is to judge?
If there is a problem with public education (nothing is perfect), it's in the standardized testing that certain political factions allow the sun to rise and set on. Most of these tests are biased and don't approach learning from all creative views. They are a burden on students and teachers alike. Learning is not a sporting event. So why should we attach all credence to scores?

Another problem with education is the "bottom-line" thinking (hello lp, I hear you with your budget woes). But really school boards who can't help but think about money really try their best to manage funds and channel money into what they think is right for the kids. Unfortunately, the school boards don't always know what is educationally sound for the kids as they are not experts in education. The world seems to reward money and getting ahead by budget cutting, not necessarily thinking and problem-solving.

You want to solve your problems? Teach kids to think things through. Teach them to solve problems. Teach them to not only be independent thinkers, but independent doers. So many problems in schools deal with undisciplined students. More time is spent repeating simple directions to kids who possess a very short attention span than actually getting down to the nitty-gritty of a lesson. I can't tell you how many impulsive and dependent kids I see on a daily basis. Coddled and spoiled or worse neglected--afraid to do ANYTHING without you holding their hands. Starving for attention so much so that they will DO anything to get it even if that means disrupting a lesson by making personal comments. It's depressing that a lot of these kids are very bright, but so terribly impatient. They don't understand that there are other people in the room who are there for the same reason. A lot of children like this have dominant personalities that get them in trouble with other kids. Yet, I feel for these kids. They seem to lack an understanding of basic social skills and dealing with others that may plague them for life. (Many of them grow up to be CEO’s of major companies-LOL.) I've seen some of them misbehave in front of their parents. I’ve seen a lot of parents look as if at wits end. Perhaps a parochial school can drop a kid like this. Or sometimes a private school is forced to keep one because they contribute a lot of money. No sorry, I think the kid needs strong guidance and discipline to be a patient yet evolving thinker, not money. I think it is my job to teach the child to be responsible for himself and his actions. But again as I stated in an earlier post, the kid has to meet the teacher half-way.

I strive to constantly cultivate initiative in my classroom. If I can make a difference in the lives of my students, then I feel I'm doing my job whether they come away with an incredible ear for music or not. At least they know I expect them to think, to analyze, to ask why and seek out the answers. I don't think vouchers teach children to think. I think they offer excuses to improve the financial situations of many privately funded schools that spew forth propaganda which deprives public schools of the chance they deserve.

Name: Jim
#

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 18:55:59
Comments:

I'm still trying to brush off those annoying paradigms that tell me "there's no way Neil Young and Crazy Horse opened - OPENED - for Dave Matthews". Young friend went to Charlottesville and was wildly enthused about the whole affair this past weekend.

Name:


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 18:31:45
Comments:

That's what I meant you ripoff.

Name: Cyn
Green earrings with envy...........

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 18:30:06
Comments:

OK...Cruiser and Jim, I've had just about enough! First Cruiser says he'll be seeing Dave Matthews in what I am thinking would be Dave's old stomping grounds Charlottesville. Lovely place, drove thru it last year with Paul on our way to Lexington, Va. Tried to convinced eldest son to apply for College there..ummm?....Ulterior motive?..YES! I wanted an excuse to visit there alot. He wasn't going for it. BTW, Cruiser,would you mind stopping by Food for the World and send me a basket from the deli....lol, only kidding, but you knew that, of course.

Now to you..James...yes, you!...you see anyone else named James? Did you once tell me that Mr. VAN MORRISON was going to be there? NOOOOOOOOO! it was just Jazzfest this and Jazzfest that, 7 days til, 5 days and counting, 2 days and a wake-up ....not one minor little mention about BB King, Wallflowers, give or take a few of the Neville bros. Well, my friend, I'll see you and your BETTER half in Oct. I'll be the one manning my personal roadblock at the bridge in Chincoteague. Look for Macon too, she'll be the one checking IDs. Don't try sneaking in wearing camouflage...they don't make them to blend in that saltgrass and marsh mud. I will send out the "Hound of the Bassettvilles" to track you, too. Ohhhhh...don't you worry about his short little legs stickin' in the mud, Mac and I are devising mudshoes for him (kinda like snowshoes).

Cyn

Name: DrMu


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 18:23:27
Comments:

KD (Blasie close your eyes): Do you hear any Nightfly - the title track?

Name:


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 18:15:26
Comments:

KD - Run for your life!

Name: enimen
thinking about going with this...

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 18:04:17
Comments:

Hi everyone.

Nice to see wormtom, Edd and z show up, as well as Lisa G's Sunday effluence.

Aus - great account. I heard the coda to Count Basie's April in Paris playing in the background...

LB - thanks for the nod. DOMC looms...why not LBB this time? Might as well line Pete's pockets as anyones...

LP - will e or call re Friday. Today was beautiful. Sunday was nice too, until the bottom of the tenth (no comments from the right field stands, please). Just remember: this year, we own Rivera.

Boy, you can never figure who's going to pique whom around here. KD & eLLe? That's rich.

Off to dig into all those swell Second Arrangement comments....

Name: Jim#
jrfoxcon@aol.com

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 17:49:34
Comments:

Okay, so I told Wormy that I'd troll once more past the great unwashed, in hopes of a nibble.

The DanFest Mid-West, aka "I'd Love to Tour the Southland as a Jazzfest Protege" goes live and with great gusto in New Orleans this weekend. Those of you who have raised hands for hall passes but are lurkishly, if not cunningly, quiet and coy on the subject, kindly e mail and we'll get you in on the festivities.

It's a select group of Festers, the finest kind, but with a line up including Frogman Henry, BB King, Al Green, Roy Hargrove, The Wallflowers, Marcia Ball, Van Morrison, Dr. John and various / sundry Nevilles, how can ya go wrong? (BTW, that's the first weekend, I'm missing Dave Matthews and others).

Here's a linkage for those of the interested kind: http://www.insideneworleans.com/partners/nojazzfest/schedules/

And yes, there will be a report of sorts, if Aja and Wormy will allow and indulge me. Strictly non-Aussie-ish, but geez, nobody can follow NYC, right?

or can they? :-)

Name: eLLe
this dark place so thrilling and new

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 17:29:23
Comments:

now where was I?

Clas, almost gothic, but it's better than that. ; )

Name: eLLe
..

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 17:27:04
Comments:

pppppppppppppffffffffft monkey boy
it took you long enough to come up with that one.WOW!!! you're too much!!

Name: neanderthal man
missing the link

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 17:19:44
Comments:

ELLE, You ARE the weakest link. goodbye!

Name:


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 16:43:35
Comments:

KD: how did you get to be so hot & delicious at your tender age? I'm not just speaking of your boyish, Jimmy Fallon-esque good looks. It's the mind that bewitches...

Name: Midnite Cruiser
http://listen.to/Jim

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 16:41:11
Comments:

steviedan....thanks so much for the call. we got the DMB tix for Sunday! Excellent seats!!! Talk to you soon about the Eric/Derek show this weekend. Thanks again!

fezo....good to see you back in these parts. it's been a while. and yes, it's been way too hot for April.

thanks to the anon poster for the links to the three Second Arrangement demo's. I had been to Andy's site numerous times (excellent site!) but didn't have all three versions of the demo. I do now!

gonna be two great shows for Opti & me this weekend. Eric Johnson with Derek Trucks on Saturday night with our own steviedan and then we're back to Raleigh on Sunday for the Dave Matthews Band show at Walnut Creek. We've been wearing out Everyday the last couple of weeks here.

Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 16:21:35
Comments:

jon @ his yellow stripe - That was a damn good article.

Name: Gina
Tuck & Patti

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 16:01:15
Comments:

just came home from a concert that was an experience so excellent, moving, spiritual, the works.

Tuck played solo and the audience forgot to breathe.
He reminded me of Michael Hedges and is very very very skilled on that guitar of his. Talk about guitar .. anyone familiar with mr. Bourelly btw??

Patti can throw a scat backwards in a lean multiple salto mortale and adds this casual rhythm thang using her vocal chords as drums & percussion. Amazing.

no souvenirs unfortunately, i had to cut a finger or his hand, right? they played 1 set of 2 hours in a row and the best part was when Patti left to leave her shoes backstage and made the audience sing as a choir on Cyndi Lauper's Time after Time. there were lots of musicians and students, so it turned out to be quite a nice choir!!!

off now.
Banyan Tree Bow,
Gina

Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 15:53:20
Comments:

someone please involve Gary Sinise somehow, if this is a go, I want Gar...

Name: Ed Norton


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 15:42:45
Comments:

But I don't want Jim McKeever, I want you.

Name: cupid


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 15:40:17
Comments:

Does this mean aa and eLLe are finished ALREADY?????

Name: Lew eLLeCynder
yessssssss, and it counts

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 15:35:25
Comments:

Yeah, what I'm proudest of is that they're both equally repeLLent.

(That should help promote the hash deal.)

Name: Cyn
Can you dig it.......

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 15:35:03
Comments:

Hey Some'thing...you weren't so bad yourself. You jumped right in and doggiepaddled right along with us...LOLOL.

Lo...What can I say..except..LOLOLOL,HAHAHA,HEEHEEHEE!

Clas..your friend has a very good point, and you put it across in a manner that is easy on the eyes to read. True, history has a way of repeating itself, unfortunatly, its always the worst repetition.

Aus...good to have you home! Hermes? Oui!

Jim..... (fill in the blanks) ....lol!

Miz Ducky..when do tickets go on sale? Can one buy them in advance?????......LOL

fezX...jousting classes have now been moved to Wednesdays at 6pm sharp. Its your turn to bring a snack for the class.

To the moon, Alice
Cyn

Name: eLLe
..

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 15:06:08
Comments:

OOPs , I meant LP, but hello LG too : ))

Name: eLLe
sue me if I played it wrong/ this sister is free, I'll be what I want to be

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 15:04:59
Comments:

hello LG. welcome back, I hope you had a lovely weekend. I don't have much SD-ish in me today. But I'll, more than likely see yah in the chat soon-ish
eLLe : )

Name: No Really


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 14:54:13
Comments:

They were quite amusing and clever. But what would YOU know?

Name: Inhuman


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 14:50:08
Comments:

Impossible.

Name: SomethingLikeHuman
dog weavers and all that is sacred

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 14:44:07
Comments:

Just enjoyed a chat with theFez, Cyn and Jim. Try to get tickets to this show, guys. It was a laugh riot.

Name: jon @ his yellow stripe
Dateline--Belzoni

Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 14:32:33
Comments:

Did anyone happen upon Sunday Times' front page article about blues players from Belzoni, Mississippi? Really interesting piece with a particularly poignant quote I'll supply here (although no mention of a nearby mountain!):

"When you sing the blues, here in one of the poorest, most unchanging corners of the country, you hand everybody who listens a piece of your pain, fear and hopelessness, until there is such a tiny piece left, you can live with it."

Name: topsoilant tom


Date: Monday, April 23, 19101 at 13:43:36
Comments:

I actually posted something this a.m.
but it appears to have vaporized

glad to see the musical threads again taking front and center

Dr Mu - enjoyed your backwards programing of Kama
I will have to try that at home, you're right Trans Atlantic is a bit dense for an opener

Did you know if you play the Nightfly in "backmasking" form
you hear Donald chanting "this is Lester the Nightfly, who took my Jr Parker records?" or was that something about the Walrus being Paul, I forgot

I can't imagine AJA or Gaucho without Black Cow or Babylon setting the album start off mood

and in the old days of vinyl, you needed a strong cut opening each side and extended cuts were good side closers. sometimes one faded off or was moved immensely as the side closed out. Certainly the a side BC/Aja/DB was capable

wormy